Thank you so much for this. Confirms that I have a jumbo with original dial and hands, I had to replace the crystal many years ago, due to it literally falling out. But now I’m rebuilding it with new seals and freshly reglued Saphire crystal. And I recently just bought a panda that I will have to get to see closer if original dial and hands
After I watched your tutorial today, I detected some offers of fake Pandas on the internet. The gap between 6139 and flat jApan, as well as the size of Z0727 on the end link, are good indications for a quick check on pics.I think that some owners might not know, that they own a feiko, if they bought those watches as second hand.Thank you do much for this VDO and regards from Germany
Are you trying to say on all the genuine original dial, “Japan” and “6139” much to have the space between them rather than writing consecutively close to each other. Please let me know, thanks
I noticed on your Panda that the top hour movement for the chrono was not bang on at 12:00, is yours slipping? I have a 6139 JPS that seems like just the hour chrono movement is slipping….
A great video on so many levels. It is detailed enough to make a difference. A great, starting place for the watch enthusiast who wants to go a little bit further than just “buying a watch.” Thanks for taking the time to share your extensive knowledge!
In the endlinks there is more gap in Z027 lug to the next lug nd same gap in the clasp plates on which Stainless Steel JAPAN Z are marked. Look at the ends. The gap is noticeable.
Hello friend, I have purchased a Seiko SSC911 watch but it is made in China. I bought it from an Ebay seller with more than 6.6 K followers, 26 K items sold and 99.3% positive feedback. They explained to me that Seiko produces its watches in Japan, Thailand and China. The watch is of good quality, except it says Made in China. Is there any other difference between Seiko watches depending on their manufacturing origin?
Hey Dan, great tutorial! One thing I've read is that if you see a 6139 with indices on the subdial which do not extend all the way to the edge that that's a Feiko. I see that's true for the yellow dial but not the blue. Do you agree with this tell?
Hey Tom. Great comment/question. I really think it depends a bit on the source of the fake/AM part. They are getting a bit harder to distinguish using the markers.
@@BlairWatchProject perhaps it's a one way thing: if you see short ones it's a red flag, but if not could still be a Feiko. Put another way, do the markers on real 613x subdials always extend all the way to the edge?
Fitting new parts makes a watch refurbished not fake. My old porsche has had 3 new windscreens , about 10 sets of tyres and brake pads and a new set of alloys. Its still a porsche. Hands on watches fade, and lume goes off , dials fade and corrode, crystals get scratched. They are not going to last forever and these are 50 year old watches. If the movement is made by seiko, the case was made by seiko and the dial was made by seiko its a seiko.
I never buy from online and usually the dealer ship or a trusted dealer I won't buy watches online I am lucky I travel for work so I can pick up original watches and don't mind paying the price for them.
recently buy a fake seiko , it look like from the 70is , had on the dial the 5 , but is quartz , well i don t realy care , it look nice , works well , and i pay 15euro for it , and since it look old and is still working is good watch ,
Great review Dan at the end of the day a watch is only original when first purchased. I personally own a few original watches and some now non original due to strap changes etc. One watch currently that I use as a daily wearer is not original because it has an aftermarket dial and hands this way if something happens to it it's not a big deal to me. But yes any changes should be disclosed if on sold or traded.
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I heard the the original seiko dials are actually silver just with a translucent coat of paint as well great video 👍
Thank you so much for this. Confirms that I have a jumbo with original dial and hands, I had to replace the crystal many years ago, due to it literally falling out. But now I’m rebuilding it with new seals and freshly reglued Saphire crystal. And I recently just bought a panda that I will have to get to see closer if original dial and hands
Glad I could help!
After I watched your tutorial today, I detected some offers of fake Pandas on the internet. The gap between 6139 and flat jApan, as well as the size of Z0727 on the end link, are good indications for a quick check on pics.I think that some owners might not know, that they own a feiko, if they bought those watches as second hand.Thank you do much for this VDO and regards from Germany
Are you trying to say on all the genuine original dial, “Japan” and “6139” much to have the space between them rather than writing consecutively close to each other. Please let me know, thanks
Great video, Dan! This is a great guide for the minefield that is EBay.
Thanks for watching, Matt!
Excellent work! Now I'm too scared to have a close look at my SEIKO collection ...
I noticed on your Panda that the top hour movement for the chrono was not bang on at 12:00, is yours slipping? I have a 6139 JPS that seems like just the hour chrono movement is slipping….
A great video on so many levels. It is detailed enough to make a difference. A great, starting place for the watch enthusiast who wants to go a little bit further than just “buying a watch.” Thanks for taking the time to share your extensive knowledge!
thansk for watching!
In the endlinks there is more gap in Z027 lug to the next lug nd same gap in the clasp plates on which Stainless Steel JAPAN Z are marked. Look at the ends. The gap is noticeable.
yes, those details do matter, but not seeing them side by side makes it tough for those who do not know.
Hey Dan! Thankyou for this detailed analysis on vintage seiko's! Can't wait to get my UFO serviced from you! Happy Holidays.
Getting very close, Frank. Happy Holidays!
Hello friend, I have purchased a Seiko SSC911 watch but it is made in China. I bought it from an Ebay seller with more than 6.6 K followers, 26 K items sold and 99.3% positive feedback. They explained to me that Seiko produces its watches in Japan, Thailand and China. The watch is of good quality, except it says Made in China. Is there any other difference between Seiko watches depending on their manufacturing origin?
not really much difference
Nice works! Thanks a lot for sharing. Learned something today!
Glad to help!
Hey Dan, great tutorial! One thing I've read is that if you see a 6139 with indices on the subdial which do not extend all the way to the edge that that's a Feiko. I see that's true for the yellow dial but not the blue. Do you agree with this tell?
Hey Tom. Great comment/question. I really think it depends a bit on the source of the fake/AM part. They are getting a bit harder to distinguish using the markers.
@@BlairWatchProject perhaps it's a one way thing: if you see short ones it's a red flag, but if not could still be a Feiko. Put another way, do the markers on real 613x subdials always extend all the way to the edge?
The only thing that would tell its authenticity is in the years of warranty
Fitting new parts makes a watch refurbished not fake. My old porsche has had 3 new windscreens , about 10 sets of tyres and brake pads and a new set of alloys. Its still a porsche. Hands on watches fade, and lume goes off , dials fade and corrode, crystals get scratched. They are not going to last forever and these are 50 year old watches. If the movement is made by seiko, the case was made by seiko and the dial was made by seiko its a seiko.
Unfortunately the Seiko community disagrees with this assessment.
I am looking for 62mas 8000 rotating bezel
aren't we all... best of luck!
I never buy from online and usually the dealer ship or a trusted dealer I won't buy watches online I am lucky I travel for work so I can pick up original watches and don't mind paying the price for them.
Wow im just about to buy a vintage Seiko 😮😮😮
I hope this was helpful
recently buy a fake seiko , it look like from the 70is , had on the dial the 5 , but is quartz , well i don t realy care , it look nice , works well , and i pay 15euro for it , and since it look old and is still working is good watch ,
Great review Dan at the end of the day a watch is only original when first purchased. I personally own a few original watches and some now non original due to strap changes etc. One watch currently that I use as a daily wearer is not original because it has an aftermarket dial and hands this way if something happens to it it's not a big deal to me. But yes any changes should be disclosed if on sold or traded.
Thanks for the comment and the insights!
It's interesting there are fakes of Seikos. I would love to buy a sks007j but quite honestly I can't trust the sources .
Is this a thanksgiving special
Sure. Gobble gobble.
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What a great episode! Thank you.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching.
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This is why i have general trust issues
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If you have to ask then it doesn't matter
I'm not sure what you mean. It matters to many who may want to buy a genuine vintage watch and don't know what to look for.
Buy the watch from a reputable person , great video