A lot of videos with that guitar in it almost never hit the brown sound or it’s mic’d up and pro tooled out but this guy has the tone and sounds like a straight up amp sound. Long Live King Eddie
It is devilishly hard to pull off this song on a guitar sans TT. Just when you make it through the intro, looming ahead is that low pitch breakdown. 5150 should’ve launched Steinberger into orbit, but it wasn’t enough. Hopefully a full featured clone will appear someday, perhaps affordable. Stellar playing as always, Sir.
True...I kick myself, I used to have a Trans Trem Steinberger (the full bodied, "strat style" one. Never should've sold it. Those things are worth a fortune these days. I've got one of the Hohner copies - it's really nice, but it's only got the S-Trem. I've looked everywhere for a "reasonably priced trans trem for it, to do a retrofit. If you can find one, they're typically well over $1,000 just for the trem.
@@jegauss David Alan Wright said at one point he was going to remanufacture the original TT, but I don’t know where he’s at with that project. I think the only hope is if one of the makers who have reproduced the original Floyd rose whale tail get in on the TT action
Thanks Doug! Yeah, I was digging through some of the older videos, so I could post something while I'm still working on the WACF video...I'm getting closer on that one, but I've had a lot "irons in the fire" lately, so it's taking longer than I've wanted.
Funny to see all us long hairs that head banged to VH, Priest, Motorhead, Scorps and Iron Maiden back in the day now looking close to gray no hairs in 2023.. Funny how time keeps on rollin on but we still dig the music.
Another favorite Van Halen song! Again, incredible tone and playing!! You have obviously put some time and effort into cracking Edwards code!! Fantastic. Cheers!!
That was awesome. You should do highly technical videos where you completely break down EVH tone on different records. Then practice for years so you can duplicate some of Eddie's hardest licks effortlessly. Then post the videos on YT. Once you've done that, you should do a 2.5 hr long podcast with Dave Friedman and further breakdown the finest details of Amp builds. Oh wait.....you've already been there.....done that. Huge fan, THANK YOU for the dedication.
The tone is so amazing. Love your content. Question for you sir. I've read Eddie played this on the Steinberger that had the ability to shift the entire string set tuning. I don't remember if it's up or down or whole step or half. Interesting stuff! Funny, when I listen to the song it's hard to catch that. Any chance you can go further into this?
Basically how the Steinberger trans-trem worked is the tremolo could go up and down in small increments like putting a capo on the strings. In the case of Summer Nights it shifts from standard up three frets or E>G. What made the Steinberger tremolo unique is that unlike other tremolo devices(Floyd Rose/Kahler/Fender) when pulling the bar up or down it could keep the strings in tune with the ability to lock in place. Although this was an amazing technology the tremolo itself was finicky and could be knocked out of place quite easily which lead Eddie to stop using the guitar.
Hey jtnachos! So, Don pretty much answered how the trans-trem works / worked. They're very hard to find these days, and super pricey. I used to have one when they first came out. Never should've sold that guitar...but that's another story. As Don describes below, the trans-trem would actually transpose the tuning of the guitar. It had this elaborate setup with the bridge saddle height adjustment behind the actual saddle that would set the string height. Once you got it setup correctly (and that wasn't easy), the strings would all dive, or climb completely in tune. So it could give you a slide effect on full chords (Ed used it on "Get Up" and that's what the main riff of that song is). There was also a locking "cam" at the base of the tremolo arm, that you could lock in your tuning, therefore transposing the entire key of the guitar. As I recall there where five positions. 3 up and 2 down. So, you could pull up, click it in to the first cam position, and you'd tuned to F - next click up was F#, and the last click was G - going the other direction, you could lock it down to Eb, and then D. At least that's how I remember it...it's been a long time.
Nice job Jim!! Great tone you got there and I know that song was difficult to play w/o a capo or trans-trem. All those fast hammer on and pull offs etc, done with the ring and pinky. Ouch. --I have one of those all black No trans-trem “Steinberger” guitars made or licensed by “Spirit.” Came with active emg’s. The bridge can be locked in one place or floating. Pretty simple design. It wasn’t very expensive when I bought it 20 yrs ago. I love playing this VH song on it for the nostalgia reasons and for the fun, but I have to use a capo.
@@Dberesford10 Thanks, ABN! I can't remember why I figured out playing it this way....I used to have a Steinberger with a trans trem, and played it the right way - but like an idiot, I sold it somewhere back in the mid-late 90s...I do have one of the Hohner copies, it's actually a great little guitar. Probably not unlike the "Spirit" model that you've got. Fun to play...Thanks for watching!
@@jegauss Naa thank you sir, you just took me back to those endless summer days with nothing much to do but flip the Van Halen cassette tape over at the end lol Pretty amazing 👍
Yup I have owned 2 TransTrem Steinberger’s for the available tunings it’s amazing! I can’t believe Gibson turned EVH down on creating guitar with a TransTrem. But what I didn’t like was when you dived bombed on it all the notes stayed in tune, it’s like a lap steel at that point
I can’t believe I didn’t see this video earlier. I’ve seen them all, including Tone Talk. Great video, Jim. Question, what pickup are you using on your 5150 if I may ask?
Thanks, Mike! I shot this a few months ago, and I swap a lot of pickups in and out of these guitars, but - I'm 99.999% sure it's a Duncan '59. If it's not that, it's a Gibson '57 classic. But, I'm pretty sure that I'm hearing the Duncan '59 with it's A5 magnet.
Yep. You’re hearing my wet/dry/wet setup “in the room.” It’s a “fat detune” Lexicon program and then a pair of Roland SDE 3000s - one for left and one for right.
Jim, Eddie blamed his tongue cancer on metal picks. This got me thinking about the influence of the pick on the brown sound. Have you experimented with different materials/gauges? What have you discovered? Amazing channel. Thanks so much for what you're doing.
Thank you, Nika! I think the metal pick may have been experimented with, but I can't think of any song / album that it might've been used on. Just the attack of the string, the pick slides / scrapes, photo evidence, etc.....up until the Hagar years, when he switched to the nylon picks (Jim Dunlop, grey), he's always used a celluloid (standard) Fender Medium, and it's rumored at times he went to a thin...I do know that in 1981 (I caught it when he threw it), on the Fair Warning tour, he was using an imprinted (VH Logo and Signature), D'Andrea "thin-medium" celluloid - .53MM....but yes, I've experimented, and it's amazing how much substrate and flex, and thickness change the tone. So, if you like the tone on the first 6 albums, stick to the medium, or less, celluloid picks.
@@jegauss Yeah, I always thought that the connection between placing a metal pick in his mouth while tapping, and his tongue cancer was tenuous at best. I am still curious about the tonal e/affects that his string winding technique/frozen strings strorage had on his tone. I remember in the 80's, keeping my string packs in the freezer 'cause of Eddie. My Mom thought I was mental! Again, thanks so much for what you doing.
@@BB-hb4gz Ha! Yeah, I agree with your mom 😉 That whole string winding, freezing, boiling thing was either a bunch of nonsense meant to keep everyone off of Ed's sound / technique, or that there is truth in the boiling - He did that when they were broke, and he couldn't afford a new set of strings. As far as his string winding, and "spinning the string in the block" as he was winding it around the peg...I tried it (I did it, too - back then, I think we all did) Anyway, no difference in tuning stability with the standard trem, and certainly no tone difference. Lotsa myth that goes along with Ed....
@@jegauss Agreed. It's the Myth of Ed that keeps us intoxicated. The archeological aspect of it all. I still think that not torquing the strings laterally would have some influence on the vibrational response of the strings, but I'm being pedantic.
Hey Matt! Thanks! Yes, that guitar is a home built one. It's Musikraft Body and Neck (but I'm not sure that they're making the bodies anymore) I just ordered a 5150 body from Locke Custom Guitars - they did a great job. Good luck in your quest!
@@jegauss awesome, thanks, checking into Locke, what wood did you go with? So you’re building a second one now? Also did you get a “replica” neck from Locke as well? How long did it take them to ship the guitar? I’ll probably have more questions 😂 appreciate it!
@@Matth9782 Hey Matt! Swamp Ash is the wood. I did not go with the replica neck, as it wasn’t available back when I built the original. Mine is a Musikraft neck. It’s a great neck, too. But if money is no object, I’d go with the Locke replica neck. It took them about 6 weeks on this last body.
@@jegauss thank you! I’ve found a lot of info out there on how to make one of these, can you point me to the definitive tutorial you used for yours, it looks awesome… considering selling the new build?
@@Matth9782 Matt, no, I don’t really know of any tutorials - I’m sure there are plenty, but I’ve been building/and ruining/piecing together guitars for 35 - 40 years. I guess I don’t look for any advice 😉 I just order my parts and slap them together. The thing is, they almost never just “go together.” You should know how to use a router, drills, etc. Not trying scare you, but it’s easy to mess up your brand new body or neck, etc. I’m not building a whole new 5150. But, I might consider selling the painted 5150 body. It’s made out of poplar. That’s what we all kinda thought the original was made out of, but it turns out it wasn’t. It sounds good, I’m just trying to be extremely accurate when I do my brown sound deep dives. So, I had to order the swamp ash body. I still need to paint it, but I’ve already put it together with the 5150 neck and hardware that I had on this video.
Thanks John! For this, none. I'm running through the usual signal chain - Shure wireless, into the MXR Flanger - Phase 90, and the the Echoplex EP3. But, none of those are engaged. This video is using my wet/dry/wet rack, rig. So, it's got some rack effects mixed. The chorus type sound is a pitch detune, handled by a Lexicon MPX-1, and there's probably some echo in there, that would be a pair of Roland SDE 3000 digital delays - those run into an H/H power amp, that powers the two outside Marshall cabinets for the effect to blend with the dry cabinet in the middle - so technically, no pedals 😉
You do EVH better than EVH. But, I'm still waiting for that Warren DiMartini "Invasion" tone. That's the elusive tone that's right up there with EVH's Fair Warning tone (IMO). If anyone can figure out what's in that secret sauce....it's you! Btw...wasn't this around the time that Ed went to using a Soldano? Or, was this still his Marshall days? This was what...87-88? I can't remember exactly when he made that switch, or what album he wound up using it on. I just remember thinking how foolish it was to use an amp like a first gen Soldano, then pile all those effects on top of it. I think Carnal Knowledge was one of them. But, I digress... Hey, I wanted to reach out to you about that Frankie you had built. You sent me a spec sheet for what you ordered and from whom, and I can't find it anywhere. UGH! No need to put you through all of that again...but, I was hoping you would let me know what company you used again, if you don't mind. 👍
Hey Phil! Thank you! I agree, Warren had a great tone, too. Not too different from the earlier VH stuff, but enough that it was unique. Pretty sure he was using almost all of the same type of gear that Ed was, back then.....? If memory serves, Ed used the Marshall on 5150 and OU812 as the main amp, and then started messing with the Soldano on F.U.C.K. - I think.... As far as my Frankie goes, it's a Musikraft, northern ash body, but I don't think they make them anymore? The neck is also a Musikraft Frankie neck. It's a 10" radius, 1-11/16" wide at the nut. But, I've recently gotten some bodies and necks from Locke Custom guitars. I think, right now, Chris Locke has the most accurate VH parts around. So, check them, out too. Musikraft is great, but it might require some phone calls / emails to see if they still offer those bodies. Good luck!
@@jegauss Outstanding....thank you sir! And, thank you for the dimensions as well. The neck shape/radius is something that is next to impossible to try and figure out if you've only got experience with one neck. Sometimes there are too many options for a dude playing guitar as a 2nd instrument, and it's hard to know where to begin. I'm a dude with very small hands. Anyway....thanks again for getting me that info again, Jim. Looking forward to your next video, as always. P.S. I agree with you on Warren's tone Would still be fun to see how close you could get.... 👍
Hey Curt, pretty sure I've got the Duncan '59 in for this video - it's either that or a Gibson '57 classic. I shot this last year, and the way I flop pickups in and out of these guitars, I tend to lose track. But, this sounds like the A5 in the Duncan ' 59. Either way, it's a relatively low output, PAF style pickup. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Dude. You’re NAILING the tone every time!!! SO good!
Thanks Dan!
A lot of videos with that guitar in it almost never hit the brown sound or it’s mic’d up and pro tooled out but this guy has the tone and sounds like a straight up amp sound.
Long Live King Eddie
Thanks, Jim! I appreciate that...
the dude who has absolutely done his homework on EVH tone. amazing
Great job!! The tone is perfect and the song isn't the easiest to play either. Phenomenal playing.
Thank you! Much appreciated!
It is devilishly hard to pull off this song on a guitar sans TT. Just when you make it through the intro, looming ahead is that low pitch breakdown. 5150 should’ve launched Steinberger into orbit, but it wasn’t enough. Hopefully a full featured clone will appear someday, perhaps affordable. Stellar playing as always, Sir.
True...I kick myself, I used to have a Trans Trem Steinberger (the full bodied, "strat style" one. Never should've sold it. Those things are worth a fortune these days. I've got one of the Hohner copies - it's really nice, but it's only got the S-Trem. I've looked everywhere for a "reasonably priced trans trem for it, to do a retrofit. If you can find one, they're typically well over $1,000 just for the trem.
@@jegauss David Alan Wright said at one point he was going to remanufacture the original TT, but I don’t know where he’s at with that project. I think the only hope is if one of the makers who have reproduced the original Floyd rose whale tail get in on the TT action
@@mrtwistyneck You're probably right....such a cool device, but sadly, like you said earlier, it just never took off.
Capo can make it way more manageable.
98% of it sounded EXACTLY like Ed. I closed my eyes and just listened. Amazing tone match too. Wow!
Thank you!
Fantastic Jim! You've been busy getting more of these songs up, thank you! Adding all to my Playlist!
You Rock my friend!
Thanks Doug! Yeah, I was digging through some of the older videos, so I could post something while I'm still working on the WACF video...I'm getting closer on that one, but I've had a lot "irons in the fire" lately, so it's taking longer than I've wanted.
You’re killin’ it Jim
Thanks for showing me this, I’m learning !
Thanks, Tim!
Funny to see all us long hairs that head banged to VH, Priest, Motorhead, Scorps and Iron Maiden back in the day now looking close to gray no hairs in 2023..
Funny how time keeps on rollin on but we still dig the music.
Who needs a trans trem. Excellent tone 👏 and playing its not as easy as it looks 👍 gr8 job.
Thanks, Mark!
Sounded so good I was waiting for Ed and Mike with the harmony....Outstanding!
Thank you, Gary! It's such a great song to sing along with, too!
Makes me want to practice this one, love it and always loved this intro its amazing !
Thanks Diggy! It's kind of a finger twister on a couple of the runs, but it's not too bad once you get the hang of it! Good luck!
Absolutely amazing man!! You crushed that. And what a great riff. Thanks for sharing
Another favorite Van Halen song! Again, incredible tone and playing!! You have obviously put some time and effort into cracking Edwards code!! Fantastic. Cheers!!
Thank you, Eric!
That was awesome. You should do highly technical videos where you completely break down EVH tone on different records. Then practice for years so you can duplicate some of Eddie's hardest licks effortlessly. Then post the videos on YT. Once you've done that, you should do a 2.5 hr long podcast with Dave Friedman and further breakdown the finest details of Amp builds.
Oh wait.....you've already been there.....done that.
Huge fan, THANK YOU for the dedication.
Hahahahaha.....nice
Ha! Now that's comedy, right there! Thank you, Ben! Very much appreciated!
🎶Summer lovin' happened so fast🎶
That tone is beautiful!
Thanks, Josh!
Spot on, as usual! Awesome sound, stunning playing. 🤟🏻💥🔝🤩
Thanks, Luca!
The tone is so amazing. Love your content. Question for you sir. I've read Eddie played this on the Steinberger that had the ability to shift the entire string set tuning. I don't remember if it's up or down or whole step or half. Interesting stuff! Funny, when I listen to the song it's hard to catch that. Any chance you can go further into this?
Basically how the Steinberger trans-trem worked is the tremolo could go up and down in small increments like putting a capo on the strings. In the case of Summer Nights it shifts from standard up three frets or E>G. What made the Steinberger tremolo unique is that unlike other tremolo devices(Floyd Rose/Kahler/Fender) when pulling the bar up or down it could keep the strings in tune with the ability to lock in place. Although this was an amazing technology the tremolo itself was finicky and could be knocked out of place quite easily which lead Eddie to stop using the guitar.
Hey jtnachos! So, Don pretty much answered how the trans-trem works / worked. They're very hard to find these days, and super pricey. I used to have one when they first came out. Never should've sold that guitar...but that's another story.
As Don describes below, the trans-trem would actually transpose the tuning of the guitar. It had this elaborate setup with the bridge saddle height adjustment behind the actual saddle that would set the string height. Once you got it setup correctly (and that wasn't easy), the strings would all dive, or climb completely in tune. So it could give you a slide effect on full chords (Ed used it on "Get Up" and that's what the main riff of that song is). There was also a locking "cam" at the base of the tremolo arm, that you could lock in your tuning, therefore transposing the entire key of the guitar. As I recall there where five positions. 3 up and 2 down. So, you could pull up, click it in to the first cam position, and you'd tuned to F - next click up was F#, and the last click was G - going the other direction, you could lock it down to Eb, and then D. At least that's how I remember it...it's been a long time.
Steinberger wihout locking trem
Nice job Jim!! Great tone you got there and I know that song was difficult to play w/o a capo or trans-trem. All those fast hammer on and pull offs etc, done with the ring and pinky. Ouch.
--I have one of those all black No trans-trem “Steinberger” guitars made or licensed by “Spirit.” Came with active emg’s. The bridge can be locked in one place or floating. Pretty simple design. It wasn’t very expensive when I bought it 20 yrs ago. I love playing this VH song on it for the nostalgia reasons and for the fun, but I have to use a capo.
@@Dberesford10 Thanks, ABN! I can't remember why I figured out playing it this way....I used to have a Steinberger with a trans trem, and played it the right way - but like an idiot, I sold it somewhere back in the mid-late 90s...I do have one of the Hohner copies, it's actually a great little guitar. Probably not unlike the "Spirit" model that you've got. Fun to play...Thanks for watching!
killer tone! spot on playing..nice work
Thank you!
Really nicely done, you do a stellar job every time
Thank you! Much Appreciated!
..keeps getting better !!!! thank you!!! Music YO Kramer?
Thanks! Nope, that's one that I built - Musikraft body and neck.
I still remember hearing that lick for the first time and thinking god damn!!
Yeah, me too!
That was frickin' excellent. Nailed it 100%.
Thank you!
Ha ha...I was going to say TONE is perfect, but somebody beat me to it! Very nice!
Thank you, Andrew!
AMAZING 👍😎👍 Feel like TH-cam just gave me a piece of candy. Absolutely beautiful sounds and spot on..
Ha! Love it! Thanks Chris!
@@jegauss Naa thank you sir, you just took me back to those endless summer days with nothing much to do but flip the Van Halen cassette tape over at the end lol Pretty amazing 👍
@@jegauss and without any doubt, Eddie would have approved 👍😎👍
@@chrisgoetz2789 Those were great days, indeed....
So cool to hear!
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
Awesome Jim 🎶🎶☮️🎸🙌🏻 more more keep ‘em Coming 💯
Thank you! There's more in the pipeline....😉
Great playing and tone!
Thank you!
Awesome to see you play this without a capo. Not the easiest but it is doable. Nice!
Thanks, Andrew!
Yup I have owned 2 TransTrem Steinberger’s for the available tunings it’s amazing! I can’t believe Gibson turned EVH down on creating guitar with a TransTrem. But what I didn’t like was when you dived bombed on it all the notes stayed in tune, it’s like a lap steel at that point
Yep, I wish I still owned mine - I was stupid (or broke) and sold mine, sometime in the mid-'90s. I thought the dive bomb in tune was cool!
Killer man!!! Nice job!!!
Thank you, Michael!
Damn that was good!
Thank you again, Michael!
Please do 5150! You rock !
Thank you! We'll see...I've got a few more "earlier" ones to get to first 😉
I cant wait till you do the “Brown sound” for 5150
I gotta do 1984 first...that may wreck me 😉
wow... awesome stuff
Thanks!
Sounds great … way easier to play with the trans trem I imagine…
Yep, considerably easier with the trans trem.... 😉
This is awesome! So on another note, are we going to get a 5150 brown sound quest? 👀
We'll see....I may get there. I don't think there's a huge difference between 5150 and '84, just a lot more harmonizer in the mix...but, we'll see 😉
I can’t believe I didn’t see this video earlier. I’ve seen them all, including Tone Talk. Great video, Jim. Question, what pickup are you using on your 5150 if I may ask?
Hey Juan! Thank you! At the time I recorded this video, the guitar had a Duncan '59 in it.
@@jegauss Thank you for the reply, Jim.
*Jim please tell what pickup is in that guitar it sounds awesome, thank you.*
Thanks, Mike! I shot this a few months ago, and I swap a lot of pickups in and out of these guitars, but - I'm 99.999% sure it's a Duncan '59. If it's not that, it's a Gibson '57 classic. But, I'm pretty sure that I'm hearing the Duncan '59 with it's A5 magnet.
Jim, what ambient effects are over the base marshall tone here? Delay and some harmonizer?
Yep. You’re hearing my wet/dry/wet setup “in the room.” It’s a “fat detune” Lexicon program and then a pair of Roland SDE 3000s - one for left and one for right.
@@jegauss thanks...i was highly curious.
Jim, Eddie blamed his tongue cancer on metal picks. This got me thinking about the influence of the pick on the brown sound. Have you experimented with different materials/gauges? What have you discovered? Amazing channel. Thanks so much for what you're doing.
Thank you, Nika! I think the metal pick may have been experimented with, but I can't think of any song / album that it might've been used on. Just the attack of the string, the pick slides / scrapes, photo evidence, etc.....up until the Hagar years, when he switched to the nylon picks (Jim Dunlop, grey), he's always used a celluloid (standard) Fender Medium, and it's rumored at times he went to a thin...I do know that in 1981 (I caught it when he threw it), on the Fair Warning tour, he was using an imprinted (VH Logo and Signature), D'Andrea "thin-medium" celluloid - .53MM....but yes, I've experimented, and it's amazing how much substrate and flex, and thickness change the tone. So, if you like the tone on the first 6 albums, stick to the medium, or less, celluloid picks.
@@jegauss Yeah, I always thought that the connection between placing a metal pick in his mouth while tapping, and his tongue cancer was tenuous at best. I am still curious about the tonal e/affects that his string winding technique/frozen strings strorage had on his tone. I remember in the 80's, keeping my string packs in the freezer 'cause of Eddie. My Mom thought I was mental!
Again, thanks so much for what you doing.
@@BB-hb4gz Ha! Yeah, I agree with your mom 😉 That whole string winding, freezing, boiling thing was either a bunch of nonsense meant to keep everyone off of Ed's sound / technique, or that there is truth in the boiling - He did that when they were broke, and he couldn't afford a new set of strings. As far as his string winding, and "spinning the string in the block" as he was winding it around the peg...I tried it (I did it, too - back then, I think we all did) Anyway, no difference in tuning stability with the standard trem, and certainly no tone difference. Lotsa myth that goes along with Ed....
@@jegauss Agreed. It's the Myth of Ed that keeps us intoxicated. The archeological aspect of it all. I still think that not torquing the strings laterally would have some influence on the vibrational response of the strings, but I'm being pedantic.
@@jegauss What's your opinion of the EVH Frankenstein pup? Seems kind of pricey, and I'm wondering if it's worthy of replacing my Seymour Invader?
woah dude
Nice tone, Jim! Where did you get the 5150 guitar? Home project? That’s my all time fav guitar, I’ve got to have one in my life. Thanks!
Hey Matt! Thanks! Yes, that guitar is a home built one. It's Musikraft Body and Neck (but I'm not sure that they're making the bodies anymore) I just ordered a 5150 body from Locke Custom Guitars - they did a great job. Good luck in your quest!
@@jegauss awesome, thanks, checking into Locke, what wood did you go with? So you’re building a second one now? Also did you get a “replica” neck from Locke as well? How long did it take them to ship the guitar? I’ll probably have more questions 😂 appreciate it!
@@Matth9782 Hey Matt! Swamp Ash is the wood. I did not go with the replica neck, as it wasn’t available back when I built the original. Mine is a Musikraft neck. It’s a great neck, too. But if money is no object, I’d go with the Locke replica neck. It took them about 6 weeks on this last body.
@@jegauss thank you! I’ve found a lot of info out there on how to make one of these, can you point me to the definitive tutorial you used for yours, it looks awesome… considering selling the new build?
@@Matth9782 Matt, no, I don’t really know of any tutorials - I’m sure there are plenty, but I’ve been building/and ruining/piecing together guitars for 35 - 40 years. I guess I don’t look for any advice 😉 I just order my parts and slap them together. The thing is, they almost never just “go together.” You should know how to use a router, drills, etc. Not trying scare you, but it’s easy to mess up your brand new body or neck, etc. I’m not building a whole new 5150. But, I might consider selling the painted 5150 body. It’s made out of poplar. That’s what we all kinda thought the original was made out of, but it turns out it wasn’t. It sounds good, I’m just trying to be extremely accurate when I do my brown sound deep dives. So, I had to order the swamp ash body. I still need to paint it, but I’ve already put it together with the 5150 neck and hardware that I had on this video.
Sounds great! What pedals did you use?
Thanks John! For this, none. I'm running through the usual signal chain - Shure wireless, into the MXR Flanger - Phase 90, and the the Echoplex EP3. But, none of those are engaged. This video is using my wet/dry/wet rack, rig. So, it's got some rack effects mixed. The chorus type sound is a pitch detune, handled by a Lexicon MPX-1, and there's probably some echo in there, that would be a pair of Roland SDE 3000 digital delays - those run into an H/H power amp, that powers the two outside Marshall cabinets for the effect to blend with the dry cabinet in the middle - so technically, no pedals 😉
wouldnt it it be easier to just throw a capo on rthe 3rd fret and then chuck it off
Ha!, I don't know, as long as you can do the stretch and chromatic run, this isn't too bad 😉
You do EVH better than EVH. But, I'm still waiting for that Warren DiMartini "Invasion" tone. That's the elusive tone that's right up there with EVH's Fair Warning tone (IMO). If anyone can figure out what's in that secret sauce....it's you! Btw...wasn't this around the time that Ed went to using a Soldano? Or, was this still his Marshall days? This was what...87-88? I can't remember exactly when he made that switch, or what album he wound up using it on. I just remember thinking how foolish it was to use an amp like a first gen Soldano, then pile all those effects on top of it. I think Carnal Knowledge was one of them. But, I digress... Hey, I wanted to reach out to you about that Frankie you had built. You sent me a spec sheet for what you ordered and from whom, and I can't find it anywhere. UGH! No need to put you through all of that again...but, I was hoping you would let me know what company you used again, if you don't mind. 👍
Hey Phil! Thank you! I agree, Warren had a great tone, too. Not too different from the earlier VH stuff, but enough that it was unique. Pretty sure he was using almost all of the same type of gear that Ed was, back then.....? If memory serves, Ed used the Marshall on 5150 and OU812 as the main amp, and then started messing with the Soldano on F.U.C.K. - I think....
As far as my Frankie goes, it's a Musikraft, northern ash body, but I don't think they make them anymore? The neck is also a Musikraft Frankie neck. It's a 10" radius, 1-11/16" wide at the nut. But, I've recently gotten some bodies and necks from Locke Custom guitars. I think, right now, Chris Locke has the most accurate VH parts around. So, check them, out too. Musikraft is great, but it might require some phone calls / emails to see if they still offer those bodies. Good luck!
@@jegauss Outstanding....thank you sir! And, thank you for the dimensions as well. The neck shape/radius is something that is next to impossible to try and figure out if you've only got experience with one neck. Sometimes there are too many options for a dude playing guitar as a 2nd instrument, and it's hard to know where to begin. I'm a dude with very small hands. Anyway....thanks again for getting me that info again, Jim. Looking forward to your next video, as always. P.S. I agree with you on Warren's tone Would still be fun to see how close you could get.... 👍
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Thank you!
The Kid build that 5150?
I built it, and I assume you certainly aren't referring to me as "the Kid." 😉
@@jegauss The Kid is a young guy who has done some amazing relics. Not just of Ed's guitars, but of many others.
@@frankpaws Cool. I'll have to look him up.
Jim, what pickup is in that Kramer?
Hey Curt, pretty sure I've got the Duncan '59 in for this video - it's either that or a Gibson '57 classic. I shot this last year, and the way I flop pickups in and out of these guitars, I tend to lose track. But, this sounds like the A5 in the Duncan ' 59. Either way, it's a relatively low output, PAF style pickup. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Upmost respect for Joe Satriani, but you played this better than he did!
Thanks! That's a great compliment!
not bad but way off time. play with a metronome or the song