Just want to say thank you for always including competition footage showing what you are teaching actually works when the opponent is fully resisting and the stakes are high. There is a lot of garbage on youtube showing theoretical passes/guards/submissions with no proof to back it up. Keep up the excellent work!
craigdanielmaceacher Thanks best compliment I can receive. I’m very big on shit actually working. I’m always frustrated when I see someone post a technique that is completely ineffective and people get all worked up and praise. The foundation of jiu jitsu is that everything needs to work against resistance.
JonThomasBJJ yeah even the move your showing! I don't like these moves just for the plain fact that a competitor must be insane to think he's going to grab my pants without a grip fight or any sort of form of resistance Plus in MMA you'll get an up kick in the face!
JonThomasBJJ Love your videos brother. I would love to see a Lasso series. I really enjoyed the understanding of the lasso 👍👍. Also do you private’s? I live in Alabama, but over FaceTime.
Your videos are so great! Always very informative and you touch on concepts, which makes it very easy to understand. Great coach and great job! Thank you 🙌🏻
Fantastic Video! I have seen a lot of Torreando video and you have a different and very clear way of breaking down the technique and presenting it, especially for us beginners ! thanks so much :)
Awesome Jon! Toreando is my favorite pass too - The thing I have the most trouble with is when the bottom player goes into a standard X guard when I'm passing on the feet. Thanks again!
TenaciousG me too. Especially when I step over their leg in De La Riva and then they hook the leg I just stepped over with Similar to this th-cam.com/video/ge-gNHhxsfs/w-d-xo.html TBH I get caught by many entries so any help is appreciated
Nice video like always and top notch editing. The far side collar sleeve videos really helped me play with that position a lot. And am now using it as my main guard. Now as for the torreando my issues aren’t so much doing the pass itself or setup but more of the completion of the pass and how to limit the scramble. I find people turtling a lot which isn’t bad but trying to limit the scramble game.
Joshua Chavez Hey! Yeah I can do a follow up video on some common finish issues. The scramble is a big aspect of finishing the pass. The set up is one thing but, many variations of how they defend when you get through. I often like the north south finish variation or I switch my arm over their back and drop. Hard to explain through text. I will do a video on that soon great question.
Thanks very much Jon! There’s one technique I am running into when battling open guard - say you try to make a grip on the inside of opponents leg in his open guard. Sometimes that might be a bait for him to then attack that arm by pulling at your elbow to pull your hand in, and then move into an omoplata/reverse armbar. How do you prevent or stay away from getting your arm taken like that? Thanks!
iiddyy hey good question, so if you are standing, it’s going to be really hard for them to pull you in for arm bar or anything like that. If I am down and I have my knee up in center it’s hard for them to pull my elbow in. Also once to you start the pass around legs they can really pull you into any position and it’s hard to break your grip. So you are pretty safe from that.
JonThomas hey man great video like always :) i have a question about walking to legdrag from the toreando pass when he frames and u cant get in the space ? do you do it ? or do u prefer the collar grip for that one?
Omya BJJ Hey great question I can do a video talking about what to do when the guy keep his knee tight which is either north south, or I will switch my near arm to pushing on his knee to open the space to finish. Actually if you look at the toreando video clip in this video where Leandro does the knee on belly finish. You will see him switch his hand to the knee after the initial toreando so he can push that space open. Hope that helps and makes sense.
Really great video, thanks. I struggle when they have both sleeves, you toreando and they sit up with it, controlling your near side sleeve to recover. Do you have a solution to that problem? Many thanks.
Chris Pacheco so the arm frame will either be on your leg or on your shoulder if you go back with your leg they can’t frame the leg then they frame the shoulder. To weaken their shoulder frame I stay in high posture because it’s harder for them to frame you and when they try it usually opens their elbow knee space. Look at the part in this video where I show the high posture finish. Hope that helps some. I’ll cover it in future video too
I also agree with tenaciousg about getting put in x guard and closed guard a lot. I remember you and Keenan Cornelius saying closed and x guard are the worst guards to get put in but I'm still unsure on how to prevent getting put in them. I particularly get caught with an entry to x guard when I step over their leg in DLR similar to this th-cam.com/video/ge-gNHhxsfs/w-d-xo.html
Aaron Bartolome I think so, the problem is pants often slide up the legs when you start fighting it’s super common. Which is why it needs to be accounted for when developing your toreando techniques.
@@JonThomasBJJ sorry i should have explained better. I didnt mean so much as the doing the pass, more so just getting back some sort of grip control after they do that "kick/stomp" break and your in that stretched position. You actually ended up answering my question in one of your other videos about the throw by pass (leandro style)
Just want to say thank you for always including competition footage showing what you are teaching actually works when the opponent is fully resisting and the stakes are high. There is a lot of garbage on youtube showing theoretical passes/guards/submissions with no proof to back it up. Keep up the excellent work!
craigdanielmaceacher Thanks best compliment I can receive. I’m very big on shit actually working. I’m always frustrated when I see someone post a technique that is completely ineffective and people get all worked up and praise. The foundation of jiu jitsu is that everything needs to work against resistance.
JonThomasBJJ yeah even the move your showing! I don't like these moves just for the plain fact that a competitor must be insane to think he's going to grab my pants without a grip fight or any sort of form of resistance Plus in MMA you'll get an up kick in the face!
JonThomasBJJ Love your videos brother. I would love to see a Lasso series. I really enjoyed the understanding of the lasso 👍👍. Also do you private’s? I live in Alabama, but over FaceTime.
You've got an obvious talent for explaining techniques. Thanks Jon.
Ines Laouar Thanks a lot really appreciate it!
Beautiful teaching professor, very easy to understand and follow.
best Toreando/Bullfighter video on youtube
Your videos are so great! Always very informative and you touch on concepts, which makes it very easy to understand. Great coach and great job! Thank you 🙌🏻
I really like that you put in videos from competiron.
Wonderful video with details pertaining to the philosophy of the toreando pass. Thanks for the great production value and instruction!
Fantastic Video! I have seen a lot of Torreando video and you have a different and very clear way of breaking down the technique and presenting it, especially for us beginners ! thanks so much :)
Thank you for giving very detailed instructional videos. Kudos!
Awesome! I'm really excited for you to dissect this pass
Very basic, very effective, my favorite kind of technique.
Jon your videos are super insightful. I love this pass and of course I wanna see more.
Awesome Jon! Toreando is my favorite pass too - The thing I have the most trouble with is when the bottom player goes into a standard X guard when I'm passing on the feet. Thanks again!
TenaciousG me too. Especially when I step over their leg in De La Riva and then they hook the leg I just stepped over with Similar to this th-cam.com/video/ge-gNHhxsfs/w-d-xo.html
TBH I get caught by many entries so any help is appreciated
Nice video like always and top notch editing. The far side collar sleeve videos really helped me play with that position a lot. And am now using it as my main guard. Now as for the torreando my issues aren’t so much doing the pass itself or setup but more of the completion of the pass and how to limit the scramble. I find people turtling a lot which isn’t bad but trying to limit the scramble game.
Joshua Chavez Hey! Yeah I can do a follow up video on some common finish issues. The scramble is a big aspect of finishing the pass. The set up is one thing but, many variations of how they defend when you get through. I often like the north south finish variation or I switch my arm over their back and drop. Hard to explain through text. I will do a video on that soon great question.
Exelente, me gustan mucho tus videos, me gustaría que subieras videos de tus luchas, son de mucha ayuda, un saludo.
Great, informative video. Thank you very much!
Love the details & competition footage to drive them home 🤙 Keep up the guard defense videos too pls #Oss
Great job!! Thanks
Nice the PANDA !!! love the inverted gi
Yes, super interested!
Expert tuition.
Great video!
I usually do the Torreando Pass extending both of my opponent's legs and pinning them to the floor (I'm 250 Lbs) while passing.
What do you do if partner uses pancake guard to defend the finish
Thank You !!!!!
What if the guy on bottom has collar grips??
hey interested in the follow up videos dissecting the pass, please post the series :D thank you
Hey buddy I did a few follow up videos, should be in a passing playlist.
I think I give up the leg grips too early when I try to pass and end up in half guard
Thanks very much Jon!
There’s one technique I am running into when battling open guard - say you try to make a grip on the inside of opponents leg in his open guard. Sometimes that might be a bait for him to then attack that arm by pulling at your elbow to pull your hand in, and then move into an omoplata/reverse armbar. How do you prevent or stay away from getting your arm taken like that?
Thanks!
iiddyy don't give him your arm grip fight only move when you have a good grip and position stick to the basics it will keep you safe!
iiddyy hey good question, so if you are standing, it’s going to be really hard for them to pull you in for arm bar or anything like that. If I am down and I have my knee up in center it’s hard for them to pull my elbow in. Also once to you start the pass around legs they can really pull you into any position and it’s hard to break your grip. So you are pretty safe from that.
You read my mind! But I’m reverse because I see this is from a year ago 😬
JonThomas hey man great video like always :)
i have a question about walking to legdrag from the toreando pass when he frames and u cant get in the space ? do you do it ? or do u prefer the collar grip for that one?
Omya BJJ Hey great question I can do a video talking about what to do when the guy keep his knee tight which is either north south, or I will switch my near arm to pushing on his knee to open the space to finish. Actually if you look at the toreando video clip in this video where Leandro does the knee on belly finish. You will see him switch his hand to the knee after the initial toreando so he can push that space open. Hope that helps and makes sense.
thanks :) makes sense.
04:01 why keep postured up?
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Really great video, thanks. I struggle when they have both sleeves, you toreando and they sit up with it, controlling your near side sleeve to recover. Do you have a solution to that problem? Many thanks.
Winston7T7 yeah I have the exact solution for that problem actually. I call it the flat liner I’ll put it in one of the next videos really soon!!
@@JonThomasBJJ thanks Jon, really looking forward to it 🙂
Hi jon, where can i find more of your competition footage outside of yotube?
best regards!
estan holoiga Hey, if you go to flo grappling I have a few matches on there as well.
What's the best way to clear the arm frames on the legs after you've stepped around your opponent's legs.
Chris Pacheco so the arm frame will either be on your leg or on your shoulder if you go back with your leg they can’t frame the leg then they frame the shoulder. To weaken their shoulder frame I stay in high posture because it’s harder for them to frame you and when they try it usually opens their elbow knee space. Look at the part in this video where I show the high posture finish. Hope that helps some. I’ll cover it in future video too
Yeah I think I understand. I immediately drop my shoulder down to make pressure. Essentially throwing myself into the frames.
I also agree with tenaciousg about getting put in x guard and closed guard a lot. I remember you and Keenan Cornelius saying closed and x guard are the worst guards to get put in but I'm still unsure on how to prevent getting put in them. I particularly get caught with an entry to x guard when I step over their leg in DLR similar to this
th-cam.com/video/ge-gNHhxsfs/w-d-xo.html
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estan holoiga Comte, Camembert, and Reblochon
Are your partner’s pants legal lol
Aaron Bartolome I think so, the problem is pants often slide up the legs when you start fighting it’s super common. Which is why it needs to be accounted for when developing your toreando techniques.
Those are the new Tatami Capri Gi pants /s lol
Any tips on regaining torreando grips from spider after they kick them off?
MindOfNoMind If they break your grips and you are in spider toreando is not going to be realistic option for you in that situation
@@JonThomasBJJ sorry i should have explained better. I didnt mean so much as the doing the pass, more so just getting back some sort of grip control after they do that "kick/stomp" break and your in that stretched position. You actually ended up answering my question in one of your other videos about the throw by pass (leandro style)
Gay!!!!!