Because he could because Hollywood allowed him, sounds like Harvey Weinstein. Hollywood is cut throat. It's all about the money. Throwing people under buses is a past time.
Very well documented video of Jennifer Jones & Robert Walker, and how David O. Selznick ruined their lives. Thank you for sharing this with all of us here, who enjoys vintage notes.
I read Jones was actually a very nervous and shy woman whom Selznick had to even give alcohol to drink often to get her through a scene. Selznick also depended on his (ex)wife for financial assistance as Selznick was a heavy gambler and was often in debt. He was a brilliant film producer but as a husband quite the contrary! Going after Jones was an easy task but very sad for Robert Walker and the two sons. Walker died young as Selznick eventually died and Jones eventually married Norton Simon a multi millionaire.
I read that Jennifer Jones was also famous for her parties. Apparently, she would circulate at the party at the start - for a couple of hours - looking incredible. Then around 3 p.m. she would go up to her room - take a 2 hour nap - wake up - take a shower - have her makeup and hair done again - and then put on an exact duplicate of the dress she had worn earlier that day and then rejoin the party in the evening! None of the guests knew this and would marvel at how "fresh" and beautiful she still looked after all those hours.
Jennifer Jones was very fragile, insecure and shy. She was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties, that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure, that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. In any case, I am convinced, that she was not a malicious person. Nevertheless, I feel very sorry for Robert Walker, who had no happy life at all.
Selznick comes across as a typical fat ugly Hollywood mogul who preys on young actresses, like a Charlie Chaplin or a Harvey Weinstein. Chaplin wasn't necessarily ugly though, at least not when he was younger.
Selznick was a creep who deserves no sympathy at all in my eyes. He tried locking Shirley Temple in a closet to SA her when she was 17... If that isn't deserving of your judgement I dont know what would be.
She was stunningly beautiful and an incredible actress. My favorite actress of the golden age of Holywood. In that time "Tinseltown" was full of blondies, but there was only one JJ!
1950s & 1960s Actors were So Classy! Love watching these Era movies just to learn about the Aura of that time! Thank You So Much for Sharing! Stay Safe! 🌷🌿🌍💖
@Kathy Kealey I actually haven't seen a video yet where the wrong picture of another actress isn't inserted. I'm beginning to wonder if it's not done intentionally as a sort of game now. It is strange though that I only see it with vids of actresses. Hmm...
@@CherylSimser I have seen so many of these where the images are poorly matched to the narration, or just plain wrong. I wonder how much car goes into some of these productions. Most memorable one I have seen to date so far is a video about Val Kilmer and Tom Selleck is mistakenly used at least 3 times. This one contains a real howler. At 18:16 the narrator mentions three women - Vivian Leigh, Ingrid Bergman and Joan Fontaine. The image is a triptych, BUT ALL 3 images are of Bergmann. Really, what gives?
I agree. He was fantastic in "Since You Went Away" as a shy and insecure young soldier and just the opposite role as a genuinely evil psychopath in "Strangers on a Train."
@@caspence56 My favorite of Robert's pictures was The Clock, in which he starred with Judy Garland. At that time he was suffering terribly over the divorce. Judy was so kind and understanding with him. At that time, the sentiment in Hollywood was for Robert Walker and very much against Jennifer Jones. I agree with you; he was a very gifted actor and robbed of all those years of life he should have had with his sons. We won't see his like again.
@@themaestroslady1812 I think he was in-and-out of mental institutions at the time he did Strangers. So some of that edge is probably real. Not that he was necessarily a psychopath but certainly very fragile and unstable.
I think Irene Mayer Selznick didn't either. She wrote a book (a memoir of sorts) about her life as Louis B. Mayer's daughter & David's wife, div etc I believe published circa 70's? I'd like to read it.
I admired Irene Mayer Selznick; a strong and resilient woman who went on to produce A Streetcar Named Desire, among other Broadway hits. She was better off after she kicked Selznick out.
I'm fascinated with just reading this little snippet of information.! Yes, Irene would've been a v.strong, self assured women. She was married to a skirt chasing, sleaze bag like Selznick! I guess her self confidence took a hit during her marriage with him though. Fob, you really must have a yt channel dedicated to your time living in a West Hollywood apartment. A bit like Armistead Maupin's - Tales of the City. You can be a modern day Mr/Mrs. Madrigal. Anyway, Fob, greetings from Australia and have a happy new year!
. . . many inaccuracies and pertinent information missing (including that she died at 90 a very wealthy woman - married to industrialist, Norton Simon) . . . I also suggest whomever puts this together not leave their day job either.
Jennifer was great in The Song if Bernadette, Since you Went Away, Duel In the Sun, Love is a many splendored thing and one of my favorites Tender is The Night
Very well said. Especially true with Robert. He was sensitive and emotional and according to his favorite cousin, Barbara Rabe, his mother was cold and loveless. His father was pleasant to him but neither parent gave him the love and acceptance he so much needed. With Jennifer he believed that he had found the love he had always longed for. Such a tragedy for such a kind and gentle man.
@@audreydaleski1067 Her "suicide attempt" was only to coerce Selznick to leave his wife, Irene, and marry her. He had no desire to marry Jennifer. If you have read anything about Selznick you will learn that he was nothing but a skirt chaser. When he had Dolores Costello, who portrayed Freddie Bartholomew's mother in Little Lord Fauntleroy, he had her alone in his office and ripped down the front of her dress. She then grabbed a vase and smashed it over his head. His reputation was well-known in Hollywood.
Yes! I was a house guest of publisher Norman Cousins and his wife Eleonor when they received a phone call from Norton Simin who announced his marriage to "a Hollywood actress named Jennifer Jones." They were Honeymooning off the coast of Spain...on a Yacht. I was thrilled!
I Thought She Was A Excellent Actress ! Loved The 🌹🕊Song Of Beradette🕊🌹& ♥️ Portrait Of Jennie & ♥️Joseph Cotton ‼️ , I’m So Glad She Lived & Pray She Was Better After Hollywood That Was A Omen ‼️♥️
Jennifer Jones was a very beautiful actress and so very talented . .ALL actors and actresses in the Holden age of Hollywood were under the control of the" studio Bosses"! I always thought the most beautiful actress in Hollywood. She recovered her mental stability and livers long prosperous life.
Excellent presentation and biographical narration of the very famous actress, JenniferJones. She was one of my all time favorites. Back then, movies on the "silver screen" were bigger than life. Thank you. (PS: Some comments by know-it-all's are mean and captious.)
@@m.m.3238 but it was kind of sad, Jennifer never got over the fact that Walker died so early and that David had actually not wanted a divorce from Irene. And David ? Who knows.. He smoked a lot and died relatively early too. Their mutual daughter Jennifer Selznick committed suicide. So yes, we are all human, and we all make mistakes, they probably had second thoughts when it was too late. Besides, Irene had enough and left before the divorce, she was not interested in getting back together, I read her autobiography
@@Outlier999 yes, I suppose you are right. I loved them both, Jennifer and David and I especially felt sorry for Robert Walker. It shattered him to lose his beloved wife and that she took the 2 sons but that happens a lot to men. May they all rest in peace, the sons still alive, I think. David had 2 boys too
Jennifer Jones ! Made some of the best movies ever . She was the heavy even when she starred with such stars as Gregory Peck . You will never see anyone with her talent in this lifetime . She was beautiful but the most important thing she was clearly a good actress . She played a little girl who saw the blessed Mary . You totally believed every minute of it. Then she would play a Western where she was a daughter of an Indian . Who was seduced by Gregory Peck . She was so good it actually shook all her fans . No no I won't hear that she had any weaknesses .............................
She died as I remember around 90 years old living with her son Robert Walker Jr. living in Malibu, California. She was a beautiful woman and great actor
Louis B. Mayer’s last name is correctly pronounced May - er. The narrator screws it up. Also, the narrator relies heavily on speculation. Jennifer Jones was not a mean person or a destructive person. David Selznick was not an ignorant fool. Gone With The Wind was his project. Oh , that’s right, it’s not politically correct these days. So Selznick was a bad person.
He was a scumbag who stole another man! Gone with the wind puts the same tired story of fools fighting to keep blacks as slaves! To me the Hitler Autobiography as a twin! Jones was the typical casting couch bimbo was screws the boss to get ahead! Walker was the true victim! Political Correctness indeed
She left a good husband for a rich one who didn’t really want to marry her. The suicide of Robert Walker Sr. was partly her doing. She may not have been intentionally mean or destructive but that’s what resulted from her self-centered behavior.
@@Outlier999 Jennifer Jones was a very shy human being and she was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties, that plagued Robert Walker. I think, Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. in any case, I am convinced that she was not a malicious person.
Don’t blame JJ for leaving her unstable husbands… Every woman deserves and craves stability! It’s her birthrite! Giving birth and rearing children DEMANDS it! Women have a lot more to loose in unstable relationships than men! Facts
@@JudeNance Follow your own advice you hypocrite. Looking for a single f**k to give for your opinion but having no luck. And btw, your opinion matters least of all.
@@myjeevie You must be describing yourself. You may have noticed that in addition to being rude and blind to your own faults, you are judgemental and stupid.
Without Selznick, Jennifer would not have had a career. Selznick's addiction to benzedrine killed him at age 63, alas. Jennifer was miscast in FAREWELL TO ARMS, which was Selznick's last film. He was the classic Hollywood egomaniac, but he made some fine films, as well as some stinkers - as all producers did.
The life of such a reserved and private person as Jones is utterly riven by the overweening drivel of the narration. The metaphors come down as the adjectives throw up. Take some diction lessons.
What a sad life to be pulled from your husband and two sons, by an affair; to not be remembered! She lived a long time with an aching heart and soul! Regrets, she had many! Good review of Jennifer Jones life!
@@debbieparenti3998 she was anything but fragile. She went for Selznick because he was powerful and she was ambitious. She left Robert Walker and her sons without a backward glance. Tried for years to steal Selznick from his wife, even "attempted suicide" to get him to marry her. Finally Irene Mayer Selznick had enough and threw him out. Jones and Selznick were made for each other. Robert Walker and their two boys were the victims.
@@elaineteeter9485 i really shouldn't voice my opinion on people I don't know, so you could be right. And it does take 2 to have an affair. I feel sorry for her husband and children . Robert Walker was also a very good actor.
@@elaineteeter9485 She was very fragile, shy and insecure, overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure, that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. In any case, I am convinced, that she was not a malicious person
This article states she was an only child, but I had read somewhere that she was the sister of Carolyn Jones who played Mortisha in The Monsters and I thought they had a resemblance. I guess the article was untrue based on this story
Let us not totally blame bob. Obviously it was. His wife . And Selznick. Sh e only wanted fame . And he just wanted and only wanted to assuage hid power and greed.
She was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. in any case, I am convinced that she was not a malicious person
Robert Walker was a sensitive and vulnerable man who had his heart broken by the one person in life he thought loved him as much as he loved her. The book, "Star-Crossed," by Beverly Linet, tells the life stories of Robert Walker, Jennifer Jones and Selznick. Robert was in no respect bipolar. After the divorce he suffered greatly from depression and was treated at the Menninger Clinic. After he recovered, he starred in Strangers On A Train, in which he gave what many believe was his greatest role: that of Bruno Antony.
women in general are turned off my vulnerable and emotional men. they want powerful and confident men, or at least men who outwardly display these characteristics. women, or rather their psyches/biology, are a lot more cold and calculating than people want to admit. robert walker had an artists soul and most women don't like that, they like one-dimensional stereotypical men who mirrors themselves on the other side of the spectrum.
Jennifer Jones was a coldly ambitious woman whose only concern was reaching stardom no matter whom she hurt. Robert Walker adored her and yet she cast him aside for Selznick. Selznick made her a star, but at the price of the destruction of the boy who had loved her since their AADA days. Robert had never seen the icy ambition which allowed her to break Robert's heart. She left him without a backward glance. There was room for only one person in her life and that was herself. Robert adored her and their two boys: Robert and Michael. Jennifer's only love was for herself. Deliberate cruelty toward one who loves you is the one unforgivable thing. Robert, Jr was the image of his father. How must she have felt, seeing Robert, Jr grow into Robert's son, knowing how she had destroyed the sweet and vulnerable man. Her coldness toward the sweet man who adored her is heartbreaking.
Elaine teeter: dont judge so harshly. After David's death, Jennifer tried to take her own life, was rescued and she called herself Phyllis Walker. You dont know if she didnt have great regrets over her decisions. Yes she was ambitious but you have to understand too, when you marry so young and then you meet an older man and discover that you prefer older men and that David adored her and could further her career, she fell. A mistake, a sin certainly, but we all make mistakes. In David's ex-wife Irene Selznicks book she describes how Jennifer begged her to take David back as he was not happy, that "he loves you", she was so unhappy, tried to throw herself out of Irene's taxi. You know God forgives when you feel sorry, also Jennifer's daughter with David committed suicide too, so you could say Jennifer had to pay dearly for her decision to wed David.
@@brittalbach416 I understand and respect your opinion but the general consensus of most film historians is that Selznick bought her. How much of her “regret” was real and how much was show is now known only to God. She and Selznick were married 16 years before he died and she spent the rest of her life alone. I think we should all let God be the judge, one way or another. My bad. Someone just told me she found another rich sucker before she died. Big deal. He thought he had a trophy wife and all he had was a used door prize.
@@brittalbach416 There are many ways to buy a person even today, but I am referring to the times people sell themselves. You yourself admitted that one reason she went with Selznick was because of what he could do for her career, something he pushed constantly. I am not saying that I would not be tempted under similar circumstances. “We have all sinned, and failed in the sight of God.” That’s why judgments in non-criminal matters should be left to Him. As for crimes, that’s why we have courts of law.
@@Outlier999 yes true. But I guess she loved David too, I found him quite fascinating, also after reading Irene Mayer Selznicks biography. He probably cheated before but Irene was definitely tired of marriage, she didnt encourage David to change his ways
Wow, what a lot of rumor-based nonsense is this? It's just a very predictable story in at least a few ways; a showgirl marries a Moghul and abandons her lesser husband and makes it big. She's still a mixed-up suicidal actress but she made her bed and she owns it now. She made her choices and had to deal with consequences, just like the rest of us. And Robert Walker was a mixed-up actor. His sensitivity was not Selznick's fault, either. The irony here is that Selznick was trying to make her 'a star' and it more or less worked, but it was a Pyrrhic victory and she was still unhappy, just like Kane's second showgirl wife in 'Citizen Kane'. The marriage would end up lasting, so you can't write this off as a tragedy or failure. It's only another showbiz story and human drama. Why all the hyperbole? No one here is a total villain or victim, just shades of grey. We've become so judgmental, lately. You better hope YOUR eventual judges are kinder to you. Do you live your life in a particularly moral way that is considerate to other people and always thinks of their welfare? I highly doubt it. Or are you like most of the rest of us and just go along, conforming, doing things to benefit yourself, being insensitive to others, denying your bad acts and calling yourself 'the victim'? Think about it before judging others. And worry more about not being one of those you would judge so harshly. If enough of us did that, it would be a much better human experience.
The robotic voiceover on this really completely undermines any historical value it might have otherwise held; the fact that Selznick initiated an affair with his new starlet despite the fact that she was otherwise happily married is not a minor detail. Granted, the decision to embark upon a sexual relationship with Selznick was ultimately hers, and Hollywood at that time (as now) was not a place of sexual equality, but to proceed from an assumption that this was 'all about true love'? Got a bridge you'd like to sell me? This entire video was nothing more than the work of a paid shill, hired to put an acceptable sheen upon a sordid little scandal of a bygone era. The pathetic attempt to somehow blame the entire matter upon Robert Walker is so self-serving as to require no further comment.
I never found her attractive and never thought her a competent actress. After watching this video, I loathe her even more. She did not deserve the Oscar for that lacking movie. I was glad to see her die in The Towering Inferno. Her funniest role was Pearl in A Duel In The Sun.
She also made an atrocious picture in 1969 called "Cult of the Damned," also known as 'Angel, Angel Down We Go." In this film her character says this line: "I've made thirty stag films and never faked an orgasm." Quite a comedown from playing Bernadette. The LA Times called the film, "A terrible piece of trash."
I found her very beautiful and she was a good actress too. Her best friend Anita Colby said she was very caring about other people and would visit them when they were ill and bring thoughtful gifts and be very generous and considerate. In her personal life, she made grave mistakes and yes, also hurt others, but who has not done that and lived to regret it later on ?
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Selznick cared about Selznick and tore apart other people's lives in the process
Because he could because Hollywood allowed him, sounds like Harvey Weinstein. Hollywood is cut throat. It's all about the money. Throwing people under buses is a past time.
That has been well documented. He's dead and forgotten, but the damage is done.
Well some people don’t know if you do go to another channel and listen to something else!
Very well documented video of Jennifer Jones & Robert Walker, and how David O. Selznick ruined their lives. Thank you for sharing this with all of us here, who enjoys vintage notes.
Yes he did ruin their lives
I read Jones was actually a very nervous and shy woman whom Selznick had to even give alcohol to drink often to get her through a scene. Selznick also depended on his (ex)wife for financial assistance as Selznick was a heavy gambler and was often in debt. He was a brilliant film producer but as a husband quite the contrary! Going after Jones was an easy task but very sad for Robert Walker and the two sons. Walker died young as Selznick eventually died and Jones eventually married Norton Simon a multi millionaire.
I read that Jennifer Jones was also famous for her parties. Apparently, she would circulate at the party at the start - for a couple of hours - looking incredible. Then around 3 p.m. she would go up to her room - take a 2 hour nap - wake up - take a shower - have her makeup and hair done again - and then put on an exact duplicate of the dress she had worn earlier that day and then rejoin the party in the evening! None of the guests knew this and would marvel at how "fresh" and beautiful she still looked after all those hours.
And they didn’t even notice she was gone.
@@Outlier999 Those parties are huge and crowded. They probably figured she was mingling with guests or stepped out to get something for the Party.
@@TheBrownIsland I believe it.
Such a tragic life...She was a marvelous actress and one of Hollywood's most beautiful women.
Selznick bought her. Walker never had a chance.
Such a heartless woman
@@elaineteeter9485 Her children suffered because of her.
it's incredible the discrepancy in good looks/charm between Walker and Selznick. One is a pretty boy the other pretty much a fat old toad.
@@okyouknowwhatever fat old toad with power will always work in any era 😂
Jennifer Jones was very fragile, insecure and shy. She was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties, that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure, that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. In any case, I am convinced, that she was not a malicious person. Nevertheless, I feel very sorry for Robert Walker, who had no happy life at all.
Selznick comes across as a typical fat ugly Hollywood mogul who preys on young actresses, like a Charlie Chaplin or a Harvey Weinstein. Chaplin wasn't necessarily ugly though, at least not when he was younger.
@@okyouknowwhatever Nevertheless the marriage of JJ and DoS was happy.
Their selfish affair destroyed Robert Walker Sr.
@@KJ-xc6qs I dare not to judge
Selznick was a creep who deserves no sympathy at all in my eyes. He tried locking Shirley Temple in a closet to SA her when she was 17... If that isn't deserving of your judgement I dont know what would be.
She was stunningly beautiful and an incredible actress. My favorite actress of the golden age of Holywood. In that time "Tinseltown" was full of blondies, but there was only one JJ!
1950s & 1960s Actors were So Classy! Love watching these Era movies just to learn about the Aura of that time! Thank You So Much for Sharing! Stay Safe! 🌷🌿🌍💖
FYI, the woman pictured at 11:53 minutes into the video is Jean Simmons not Jennifer Jones.
@Kathy Kealey I actually haven't seen a video yet where the wrong picture of another actress isn't inserted. I'm beginning to wonder if it's not done intentionally as a sort of game now. It is strange though that I only see it with vids of actresses. Hmm...
I get them confused myself. Good Catch.
Yes! I noticed this as well....another great brunette beauty of the golden age.
Interesting, as a kid I always got them confused, though they don't look all that much alike apart from the short raven black hair.
@@CherylSimser I have seen so many of these where the images are poorly matched to the narration, or just plain wrong. I wonder how much car goes into some of these productions. Most memorable one I have seen to date so far is a video about Val Kilmer and Tom Selleck is mistakenly used at least 3 times.
This one contains a real howler. At 18:16 the narrator mentions three women - Vivian Leigh, Ingrid Bergman and Joan Fontaine. The image is a triptych, BUT ALL 3 images are of Bergmann. Really, what gives?
Walker was Great actor.....
I agree. He was fantastic in "Since You Went Away" as a shy and insecure young soldier and just the opposite role as a genuinely evil psychopath in "Strangers on a Train."
He was, I agree. So sad about his breakup it’s Jennifer Jones
His best role was in Strangers on a Train. He's positively creepy as the villain. Gives you goosebumps!
@@caspence56 My favorite of Robert's pictures was The Clock, in which he starred with Judy Garland. At that time he was suffering terribly over the divorce. Judy was so kind and understanding with him. At that time, the sentiment in Hollywood was for Robert Walker and very much against Jennifer Jones. I agree with you; he was a very gifted actor and robbed of all those years of life he should have had with his sons. We won't see his like again.
@@themaestroslady1812 I think he was in-and-out of mental institutions at the time he did Strangers. So some of that edge is probably real. Not that he was necessarily a psychopath but certainly very fragile and unstable.
C’mon..what destroyed Robert Walker was his wife Jennifer Jones choosing Selznick for fame over the family she had with Walker.
but Jennifer was overcome with guilt, when she tried to commit suicide after Selznicks death, she checked into a motel signing in as Phyllis Walker
not so simple in real life
He struggled with alcohl during his martiage already. I do not think , that JJ was the main reason.
Robert Walker was devastated when Jennifer left him for the much older and unattractive David O. Selznick, Walker never recovered from it!!
I think Irene Mayer Selznick didn't either. She wrote a book (a memoir of sorts) about her life as Louis B. Mayer's daughter & David's wife, div etc I believe published circa 70's? I'd like to read it.
Now that you mention it, I’d like to read it too, I think it’s on Amazon?
But the mariage was ended already.
she was having an affair with Selznick, their marriage ended in 1945, like I said he did NOT recover from the breakup
@@kitkat914 No, they planned to get divorced. The marriage was only on the documents. They separated in 1943.
In 1974, I was renting an apartment on DeLongpre in West Hollywood, in a building managed by Irene Mayor, his ex wife. I heard alot of stories !
Do tell !!!
I admired Irene Mayer Selznick; a strong and resilient woman who went on to produce A Streetcar Named Desire, among other Broadway hits. She was better off after she kicked Selznick out.
I'm fascinated with just reading this little snippet of information.! Yes, Irene would've been a v.strong, self assured women. She was married to a skirt chasing, sleaze bag like Selznick! I guess her self confidence took a hit during her marriage with him though. Fob, you really must have a yt channel dedicated to your time living in a West Hollywood apartment. A bit like Armistead Maupin's - Tales of the City. You can be a modern day Mr/Mrs. Madrigal. Anyway, Fob, greetings from Australia and have a happy new year!
. . . many inaccuracies and pertinent information missing (including that she died at 90 a very wealthy woman - married to industrialist, Norton Simon) . . . I also suggest whomever puts this together not leave their day job either.
I agree
"whoever" is used as a subject.
@@johndaugherty7779 true Whoever needs to be used , and it could be autocorrect !!
Jennifer was great in The Song if Bernadette, Since you Went Away, Duel In the Sun,
Love is a many splendored thing and one of my favorites Tender is The Night
Ditto
She was great in all of her movies. One of my favorite actresses.
Her work in Portrait of Jennie is amongst her best. Beat the Devil also.
Love Letters
@@PungiFungi Loved that film that has an eery but mystical touch with the wonderful Joseph Cotton
Adultery has caused many a suicide and many a murder. Adultery will indeed push a person over the edge. She a nd Selznick were to blame.
Very well said. Especially true with Robert. He was sensitive and emotional and according to his favorite cousin, Barbara Rabe, his mother was cold and loveless. His father was pleasant to him but neither parent gave him the love and acceptance he so much needed. With Jennifer he believed that he had found the love he had always longed for. Such a tragedy for such a kind and gentle man.
Jennifer wad suicidal. So was her daughter.its in the genes.
@@audreydaleski1067 Her "suicide attempt" was only to coerce Selznick to leave his wife, Irene, and marry her. He had no desire to marry Jennifer. If you have read anything about Selznick you will learn that he was nothing but a skirt chaser. When he had Dolores Costello, who portrayed Freddie Bartholomew's mother in Little Lord Fauntleroy, he had her alone in his office and ripped down the front of her dress. She then grabbed a vase and smashed it over his head. His reputation was well-known in Hollywood.
She had a great life from 1971 on a good husband who was worth 10 billion.
It was better than she deserved.
Yes! I was a house guest of publisher Norman Cousins and his wife Eleonor when they received a phone call from Norton Simin who announced his marriage to "a Hollywood actress named Jennifer Jones." They were Honeymooning off the coast of Spain...on a Yacht. I was thrilled!
I Thought She Was A Excellent Actress ! Loved The 🌹🕊Song Of Beradette🕊🌹& ♥️ Portrait Of Jennie & ♥️Joseph Cotton ‼️ , I’m So Glad She Lived & Pray She Was Better After Hollywood That Was A Omen ‼️♥️
Jennifer Jones was a very beautiful actress and so very talented . .ALL actors and actresses in the Holden age of Hollywood were under the control of the" studio Bosses"! I always thought the most beautiful actress in Hollywood. She recovered her mental stability and livers long prosperous life.
"Golden Age". Yes, she lived a long and prosperous life to her 90s.
Excellent presentation and biographical narration of the very famous actress,
JenniferJones.
She was one of my all time favorites. Back then, movies on the "silver screen" were bigger than life.
Thank you.
(PS: Some comments by know-it-all's are mean and captious.)
Thank you so much Bold Farmer! 🙂
And some are accurate. Being a good actor doesn’t make you a good person. Facts are facts.
The narrator does a great job and tells the life of a couple of people. Their lives were ruined 😔
Their lives were Ruined? What the hell??? These two selfish rich people who broke peoples hearts are to be pitied? Youre a Fool!...lol
@@m.m.3238 but it was kind of sad, Jennifer never got over the fact that Walker died so early and that David had actually not wanted a divorce from Irene. And David ? Who knows.. He smoked a lot and died relatively early too. Their mutual daughter Jennifer Selznick committed suicide. So yes, we are all human, and we all make mistakes, they probably had second thoughts when it was too late. Besides, Irene had enough and left before the divorce, she was not interested in getting back together, I read her autobiography
@@brittalbach416 They deserved each other and not in a good way.
@@Outlier999 yes, I suppose you are right. I loved them both, Jennifer and David and I especially felt sorry for Robert Walker. It shattered him to lose his beloved wife and that she took the 2 sons but that happens a lot to men. May they all rest in peace, the sons still alive, I think. David had 2 boys too
@@brittalbach416 Robert Jr. and Michael are both deceased.
Why are you trying ( and failing ) to paint Robert Walker as some kind of monster.
One of those photos was Jean Simmons..... not Jennifer. But a good history, nevertheless.
There were some flaws so I wonder how much to believe
At least it wasn't Jean Stapleton..
I think that there might have been two photos of Jean Simmons in this episode 🤔
Robert Walker’s life was ended by his psychiatrist. Not good!!
Jennifer Jones ! Made some of the best movies ever . She was the heavy even when she starred with such stars as Gregory Peck . You will never see anyone with her talent in this lifetime . She was beautiful but the most important thing she was clearly a good actress . She played a little girl who saw the blessed Mary . You totally believed every minute of it. Then she would play a Western where she was a daughter of an Indian . Who was seduced by Gregory Peck . She was so good it actually shook all her fans . No no I won't hear that she had any weaknesses .............................
“Any competent psychologist would know…”
How the hell would YOU know? I quit watching after hearing that.
P l e a s e! This is overly melodramatic silliness. As someone who was in "the biz" for25 years, this makes me ill.
Well, when you have an "agenda" before you even start doing your research....
These film moguls and how they abused these female actresses. Real predators and notice all from a certain religious demographic.
Yeah, notice all the pedophile priests are all from a certain religious demographic.
You noticed that, eh? It's part of a long pattern.
Sad. I have no words. Really hard to find the truth. No comment.
JJ played the long game
Instead of being Super Ambitious
She acted sweet and let David lead
The relentless images showing, Subscribe, and the Bell, are juvenile and very annoying !
Be sure to thank them for the free viewing.
Hey, atleast he did marry her. Not just a casting couch cutie.
He married her after his wife threw him out and Jennifer overdosed on sleeping pills. He was always a skirt-chaser, that was well known in Hollywood.
He actually didn’t want to but his wife Irene had finally had enough.
Nobody has mentioned her speech impediment........
She was a great actress. I read a bio of her and Walker.
She died as I remember around 90 years old living with her son Robert Walker Jr. living in Malibu, California. She was a beautiful woman and great actor
@@GeneRogers-xl9um she lived with her son? thank you for the info
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Louis B. Mayer’s last name is correctly pronounced May - er. The narrator screws it up. Also, the narrator relies heavily on speculation. Jennifer Jones was not a mean person or a destructive person. David Selznick was not an ignorant fool. Gone With The Wind was his project. Oh , that’s right, it’s not politically correct these days. So Selznick was a bad person.
He was a scumbag who stole another man! Gone with the wind puts the same tired story of fools fighting to keep blacks as slaves! To me the Hitler Autobiography as a twin! Jones was the typical casting couch bimbo was screws the boss to get ahead! Walker was the true victim! Political Correctness indeed
She left a good husband for a rich one who didn’t really want to marry her. The suicide of Robert Walker Sr. was partly her doing. She may not have been intentionally mean or destructive but that’s what resulted from her self-centered behavior.
@@Outlier999 Jennifer Jones was a very shy human being and she was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties, that plagued Robert Walker. I think, Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. in any case, I am convinced that she was not a malicious person.
True I don't believe in any case Jennifer was a bad person, can't say the same about David Selznick
Don’t blame JJ for leaving her unstable husbands… Every woman deserves and craves stability! It’s her birthrite! Giving birth and rearing children DEMANDS it! Women have a lot more to loose in unstable relationships than men! Facts
This guy drones on and on and on. Like all deathly bores he is in love with his own boring voice.
Sadly yes
If you can't say anything nice then just be quiet. Your opinion isn't the only one that matters.
@@JudeNance Follow your own advice you hypocrite. Looking for a single f**k to give for your opinion but having no luck. And btw, your opinion matters least of all.
@@theinkbrain
Very rude. You may notice people don't always like being around you with with an attitude like this.
@@myjeevie You must be describing yourself. You may have noticed that in addition to being rude and blind to your own faults, you are judgemental and stupid.
The story got much better once you quit trying to speak in overly flowering speech and just told the story.
Exactly! The beginning was really hard to follow. Just stick with facts and follow a time line. You're not writing for a Pulitzer or Nobel prize.
@@Traci.Johnson.Francisco I believe it qualified as ''purple prose.''
11:42 that's Jean Simmons, not Jennifer Jones
Aw C'mon. Same ol same ol excuses over these Hollywood stars behaviors. Too many put in the same boat ......the price you have to pay for stardom
Dreams of Fame. Turning into nightmares.....nuff said
Without Selznick, Jennifer would not have had a career. Selznick's addiction to benzedrine killed him at age 63, alas. Jennifer was miscast in FAREWELL TO ARMS, which was Selznick's last film. He was the classic Hollywood egomaniac, but he made some fine films, as well as some stinkers - as all producers did.
Selznick wanted Vivien Leigh but she was with Laurence Olivier, so he chose JJ who looked a lot like VL.
That is exactly what I have heard too. She looks a lot like Vivien and Jean Simmons.
Jennifer Jones and David O. Selznick got what they both deserved!
Just read the biography of Jones. She was a true lady, donated and helped mental ill people.
The life of such a reserved and private person as Jones is utterly riven by the overweening drivel of the narration. The metaphors come down as the adjectives throw up. Take some diction lessons.
The title isnt a question. Why the question mark?
This video is embarrassingly BAD. Your personal bias is profoundly disturbing
So many inaccuracies coupled with that silly over dramatic robotic narration made it impossible to watch. No sub here 😑
Love the film duel in the sun!
Yes. Gregory Peck was hot, hot, hot in that. You could feel the tension whenever he did a scene with Jennifer.
This sounds like AI run amok.
Terrible hackneyed writing...what crap. So many mistakes. Don't quit your day job!
. . . exactly! Can NOT believe how stupid and inaccurate these are - actually could be construed as laughable.
@@Montavanni1 Also repetitive and breaking the chronological narrative.
11:52 This is Jean Simmons!
Am I the only one who found her voice and speech impediment hard to listen to?
What a sad life to be pulled from your husband and two sons, by an affair; to not be remembered! She lived a long time with an aching heart and soul! Regrets, she had many! Good review of Jennifer Jones life!
Sounds like she was a bit fragile and vulnerable. The type that powerful men like Selznik like to prey upon and control.
@@debbieparenti3998 she was anything but fragile. She went for Selznick because he was powerful and she was ambitious. She left Robert Walker and her sons without a backward glance. Tried for years to steal Selznick from his wife, even "attempted suicide" to get him to marry her. Finally Irene Mayer Selznick had enough and threw him out. Jones and Selznick were made for each other. Robert Walker and their two boys were the victims.
@@elaineteeter9485 i really shouldn't voice my opinion on people I don't know, so you could be right. And it does take 2 to have an affair. I feel sorry for her husband and children . Robert Walker was also a very good actor.
@@elaineteeter9485 She was very fragile, shy and insecure, overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure, that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. In any case, I am convinced, that she was not a malicious person
She brought all that on herself by her choices.
13.25 I think Robert looks a bit like the actor who played Eddie Haskell in the series leave it to beaver here !
Jennifer Jones. And Jeanne Simmons. Always got them confused. ...both great actresses
They even looked alike
Jones was an opportunist. Simmons did nude scenes.
Yes. They look alike. That is why Selznick fell in love with her since He was obsessed with Vivien who also looks similar to them.
This article states she was an only child, but I had read somewhere that she was the sister of Carolyn Jones who played Mortisha in The Monsters and I thought they had a resemblance.
I guess the article was untrue based on this story
but her real name was isley but i think she did have a sibling and they started their careers together as a stage act - not sure.
@@MsVanorak Phyllis Isley yes but I think she was an only child and her parents were actors in a travelling show
She was an only child
No!!
She was gorgeous and her husband Robert Walker was a handsome, but mentally fragile man
Let us not totally blame bob. Obviously it was. His wife . And Selznick. Sh e only wanted fame . And he just wanted and only wanted to assuage hid power and greed.
She was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. in any case, I am convinced that she was not a malicious person
Sounds as if Robert was bipolar 😞
Robert Walker was a sensitive and vulnerable man who had his heart broken by the one person in life he thought loved him as much as he loved her. The book, "Star-Crossed," by Beverly Linet, tells the life stories of Robert Walker, Jennifer Jones and Selznick. Robert was in no respect bipolar. After the divorce he suffered greatly from depression and was treated at the Menninger Clinic. After he recovered, he starred in Strangers On A Train, in which he gave what many believe was his greatest role: that of Bruno Antony.
women in general are turned off my vulnerable and emotional men. they want powerful and confident men, or at least men who outwardly display these characteristics. women, or rather their psyches/biology, are a lot more cold and calculating than people want to admit. robert walker had an artists soul and most women don't like that, they like one-dimensional stereotypical men who mirrors themselves on the other side of the spectrum.
Please do not diagnose him!
Jennifer Jones was a coldly ambitious woman whose only concern was reaching stardom no matter whom she hurt. Robert Walker adored her and yet she cast him aside for Selznick. Selznick made her a star, but at the price of the destruction of the boy who had loved her since their AADA days. Robert had never seen the icy ambition which allowed her to break Robert's heart. She left him without a backward glance. There was room for only one person in her life and that was herself. Robert adored her and their two boys: Robert and Michael. Jennifer's only love was for herself. Deliberate cruelty toward one who loves you is the one unforgivable thing. Robert, Jr was the image of his father. How must she have felt, seeing Robert, Jr grow into Robert's son, knowing how she had destroyed the sweet and vulnerable man. Her coldness toward the sweet man who adored her is heartbreaking.
Elaine teeter: dont judge so harshly. After David's death, Jennifer tried to take her own life, was rescued and she called herself Phyllis Walker. You dont know if she didnt have great regrets over her decisions. Yes she was ambitious but you have to understand too, when you marry so young and then you meet an older man and discover that you prefer older men and that David adored her and could further her career, she fell. A mistake, a sin certainly, but we all make mistakes. In David's ex-wife Irene Selznicks book she describes how Jennifer begged her to take David back as he was not happy, that "he loves you", she was so unhappy, tried to throw herself out of Irene's taxi. You know God forgives when you feel sorry, also Jennifer's daughter with David committed suicide too, so you could say Jennifer had to pay dearly for her decision to wed David.
@@brittalbach416 I understand and respect your opinion but the general consensus of most film historians is that Selznick bought her. How much of her “regret” was real and how much was show is now known only to God. She and Selznick were married 16 years before he died and she spent the rest of her life alone. I think we should all let God be the judge, one way or another. My bad. Someone just told me she found another rich sucker before she died. Big deal. He thought he had a trophy wife and all he had was a used door prize.
@@Outlier999 Bought her? But yes, God alone should judge as He alone knows every heart and since He told us not to judge, that is true
@@brittalbach416 There are many ways to buy a person even today, but I am referring to the times people sell themselves. You yourself admitted that one reason she went with Selznick was because of what he could do for her career, something he pushed constantly. I am not saying that I would not be tempted under similar circumstances. “We have all sinned, and failed in the sight of God.” That’s why judgments in non-criminal matters should be left to Him. As for crimes, that’s why we have courts of law.
@@Outlier999 yes true. But I guess she loved David too, I found him quite fascinating, also after reading Irene Mayer Selznicks biography. He probably cheated before but Irene was definitely tired of marriage, she didnt encourage David to change his ways
An 18 minute video that could have been 8 minutes long.
She reminds me of Joan Collins.
Wow, what a lot of rumor-based nonsense is this? It's just a very predictable story in at least a few ways; a showgirl marries a Moghul and abandons her lesser husband and makes it big. She's still a mixed-up suicidal actress but she made her bed and she owns it now. She made her choices and had to deal with consequences, just like the rest of us. And Robert Walker was a mixed-up actor. His sensitivity was not Selznick's fault, either. The irony here is that Selznick was trying to make her 'a star' and it more or less worked, but it was a Pyrrhic victory and she was still unhappy, just like Kane's second showgirl wife in 'Citizen Kane'. The marriage would end up lasting, so you can't write this off as a tragedy or failure. It's only another showbiz story and human drama. Why all the hyperbole? No one here is a total villain or victim, just shades of grey. We've become so judgmental, lately. You better hope YOUR eventual judges are kinder to you. Do you live your life in a particularly moral way that is considerate to other people and always thinks of their welfare? I highly doubt it. Or are you like most of the rest of us and just go along, conforming, doing things to benefit yourself, being insensitive to others, denying your bad acts and calling yourself 'the victim'? Think about it before judging others. And worry more about not being one of those you would judge so harshly. If enough of us did that, it would be a much better human experience.
Really crappy narration..." The beautiful people, gossipy polemics" cmon ...
Oh boy
this interpretation is sooooooooooo patriarchal. as if she had no part in the relationship !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nein.
The robotic voiceover on this really completely undermines any historical value it might have otherwise held; the fact that Selznick initiated an affair with his new starlet despite the fact that she was otherwise happily married is not a minor detail. Granted, the decision to embark upon a sexual relationship with Selznick was ultimately hers, and Hollywood at that time (as now) was not a place of sexual equality, but to proceed from an assumption that this was 'all about true love'? Got a bridge you'd like to sell me? This entire video was nothing more than the work of a paid shill, hired to put an acceptable sheen upon a sordid little scandal of a bygone era. The pathetic attempt to somehow blame the entire matter upon Robert Walker is so self-serving as to require no further comment.
I never found her attractive and never thought her a competent actress. After watching this video, I loathe her even more. She did not deserve the Oscar for that lacking movie. I was glad to see her die in The Towering Inferno. Her funniest role was Pearl in A Duel In The Sun.
She also made an atrocious picture in 1969 called "Cult of the Damned," also known as 'Angel, Angel Down We Go." In this film her character says this line: "I've made thirty stag films and never faked an orgasm." Quite a comedown from playing Bernadette. The LA Times called the film, "A terrible piece of trash."
I found her very beautiful and she was a good actress too. Her best friend Anita Colby said she was very caring about other people and would visit them when they were ill and bring thoughtful gifts and be very generous and considerate. In her personal life, she made grave mistakes and yes, also hurt others, but who has not done that and lived to regret it later on ?