Hey guys, I don't know if you understood that king Aegon put his "bros" his frat friends as kingsguards. He promoted his idiot friends just as he promoted his idiot commander of the kingsguard. He really, at a moment of an escalating war sorrounded himself by idiot boys to guide him and serve. For a second, before he got drunk, he was feeling concern.
yeah he seemed a bit pissed when he heard they weren't taking their oath seriously but i think his want for love and approval leads him to want to hangout with hem and fuck around even if he knows its a poor choice
I think you guys misunderstood where Rhaena and the children are going. First, they are all going to the Vale so Joffrey can start his wardship there. Rhaenyra is sending her two youngest children as well and she asked Rhaena to go with them to look after her half-brothers. Now Rhaenyra said to write to the prince in Pentos and *IF* he will take them all in, go there with the younger boys so they are further out of the Greens' reach. So, at the moment, the plan is to go to the Vale, with a possibility of extending the journey to Pentos if the opportunity to do so comes to pass.
I don't think it's necessarily embarrassment that's stopping Alicent from backing down, I think Alicent genuinely believes she don't have the power or authority now to stop it, the wheel is turning too fast to stop and the situation has ascended beyond anyone's control. Besides the Greens were gonna crown Aegon regardless of Alicent's wishes and whether Viserys changed his mind or not, Otto had been planning this for years now.
Exactly. She's trying to control a bunch of bloodthirsty manchildren and failing. It's basically the Joffrey situation all over again but with a lot less needless sadism and psychopathy. Not saying their anger is completely unjustified but they're so shortsighted it hurts lol.
@@soulofconflict unjustified in its genesis. The thought that Rhaenyra would kill Alicent’s kids was false premise. Otto being scared of Daemon, then Rhaenyra led to this. Of course now with blood and cheese, different game
@@LaCheeserie False premises? No. While Rheanyra herself might not have wanted Alicents kids dead, her council - especially Daemon - would push for it, even to the point of doing it behind her back. Otto was smart to be worried about Daemon and he did see that Rheanyra was close with him, adding to the fact that Rheanyra doesn't heed Otto's advice . He knew he had to get her out. But he still tried to marry her to Aegon which would have solved his issue by keeping Daemon away. But Viserys said no which finalised Otto's goal of getting rid of Rheanyra.
I don’t understand what Rhaenyra means when she says ‘if war can be averted it’s my duty to’….. how can it be averted? There are only 2 ways for the war to be stopped, Rhaenyra renounces her claim as Queen or Aegon steps down as king, either decision rendered the death of one of their children meaningless. Do we think either would seriously consider stepping down? The show keeps saying war could be averted if it weren’t for those evil men around Rhaenyra and Alicent, yet they started the war. What concrete 3rd path exists to avoid war? The writing worries me with this show
@@corvus2512 You're viewing/thinking about all of this as a third person seeing all story lines. You're not letting yourself view through each characters eyes/knowledge/beliefs. When they speak of averting the war, they believe it. Rhaenyra doesn't know how little power Alicent has anymore, she doesn't know what kind of vengeful/reckless character King Aegon has become, or what the mood/atmosphere/temperament is on the Green side. She hopes to hold onto the last time she saw Alicent at Viserys' final dinner, when they found "peace" between each other. It's not about whether there actually is a path to averting the war or not. We all know this is inevitable because we see each action leading to it on both sides. Each character does not see all we see. When it comes to actual war, if there is any hint of hope of avoiding it, then they will understandably seek it out until they know for themselves that it is truly impossible. We have all the evidence and logic of where this is going, but they don't. Like, if someone edited the series to only show one character's scenes and it was your first time viewing the series, you would have a very different perspective of the whole story.
Alicent is right that its too late, but that isn't the point of the scene. This conversation strengthens Rhaenera's resolve. She might've been having personal doubts about her claim to the throne, and then she does know Alicent and would know if she's lying, so to hear Alicent be SO sure that Viserys changed his mind is devastating for her. Then to hear the actual words and know her father loved her and remained true to the end and never wanted Aegon to be king, I felt that deep in my soul when she realized that. Now she has the resolve to fight for her inheritance. THAT was the point of that scene. She needed this. Also, I've not seen one reactor realize that the woman who brings Ulf and his buddies ale and then gets her butt smacked is Dyana, the girl that Aegon SA'd in season 1.
Daemon: "Then we'll take the Iron Throne." Simon: "The Throne? What is it?" Daemon: "It's a big chair with swords on it. But that's not important right now."
Simon didn’t ask “what is it”, to be fair, he just incredulously asked “The Throne?” because Daemon apparently intends to conquer King’s Landing from the leakiest, most ruined castle in the realm.
It makes sense. People in royalty name their kids after fathers and grandfathers all the time. Same with Commonborn people. Commonborn people name their kids after names that hold great value. Such as John, Henry, William, Muhammad, etc...
I think the biggest thing to come from the final discussion between Alicent and Rhaenyra is that Alicent can no longer justify to herself any of the actions her house takes to keep Aegon on the throne. The beginning of her descent was in the sept with Rhaenyra. It has nothing to do Alicent’s ability to stop the war: it’s about how she will handle the repercussions of it.
They know which one is Erryk and which is Arryk, but Rhaenyra chose to bury them together. Last episode, Erryk literally says "Your Grace" before killing himself. The other is sworn to Aegon; he will not call her, Your Grace.
People are forgetting that the innevitable war between Greens and Blacks wasn't started because of Viserys 'indecision' about his heir, his council had been plotting to name Aegon king long before Viserys' death, and even though they made it seem as it was Alicent's misunderstanding of Viserys' words what triggered their plan, it actually had little to no relevance as they would've taken the throne regardless of Viserys' intentions. As Rhaenys said: "Men would rather let the world burn than see a woman sit the Iron Throne". Therefore I also think Alicent saying "there's no mistake" isn't she being ashamed of her mistake, but rather she finally realising Viserys' never changed his mind but also knowing that the war would've started regardless, and that there's nothing she or anyone can do to stop it. I love the parallel they do with the conflict between Blackwoods and Brackens: neither of them know why they hate eachother, nor who started it, nor who's right or wrong, they just fight. It's kind of the same between the Greens and the Blacks, it no longer matters who's right, who's wrong, who started it, who continued it, war between the two is innevitable. Alicent realised this, it's too late to stop the war, so that conversation was just the last goodbye between two women who were once best friends.
Ulf the White, Hugh Hammer, and Adam were all three seen last week, in scenes that all related to the food shortage. Ulf the White stole a piece of fruit or something from the basket of someone who walked past him. Hugh and his wife discussed how expensive the meal they were having was. Adam was "crabbing" for dinner. Almost like the writers are trying to connect them, somehow.
To offer a different perspective on the whole Aegon naming thing.... When Viserys died, only Aegon II and Aegon III (Rhaenyra and Daemon's son) are alive. So, while it can be somewhat of a reach, I don't think it's inconceivable that when Alicent heard Viserys' dying words, she understands it as "Aegon, the prince that was promised" as her son, because everybody thought about it as "It's either Rhaenyra or Aegon" . And all of it kind of doesn't matter anyway, since Otto and the council were already planning to usurp the throne even without Alicent coming in with the whole "Viserys changed his mind" thing.
@@hali_55 Exactly, I just don't like that a lot of people seem to think that the whole conflict is only because of "Alicent misunderstood him". There is that for sure, but there is a lot more to it than that
Exactly! Everyone is blaming on Alicent when she did the best she could. Maybe it didn't end up well but she never wanted any of it. She wanted Rhaenyra to be queen but she wanted to give her dead husband his last wish. She's not bad and doesn't deserve that much hate, it's just she's really unlucky.
I feel like leanor died wherever he is and that's why sea smoke has been acting up cuz he can feel it and that's how he gets a new rider because thar bond was broke
@ducksauce9187 yes, but why not have a scene of him dying in the meantime? Daemon is gone so it's not like Rhaenyra can discuss with him "Oh yeah Seasmoke is acting weird because Laenor probably just died". If he HAS died, it's completely off screen and unmentioned, which as I said is a weird move to make. I don't mind the change but at least have clarification on when Laenor actually dies yk
The best thing about this season thus far is how they are slowly building up the dragon seeds for the second half of the season. So when that moment comes where their impact on the story surprises the general audience it will have that holy shit moment without feeling like it came out of nowhere. My only nitpick is that they haven't shown Jace being the great leader that he is at this point, or could be. Especially since at this point of time he does take a more of a leadership role, which soon leads up to the dragon seeds.
@@timothypolanco8622 Nettles was actually the character I was most looking forward to next to Alys Rivers. The show hasn't eve confirmed if she's going to appear next season or not... here's hoping 🤞
To be perfectly fair, while I understand where Rhaenyra and Alicent are coming from, they should have known that neither side was going to back down. If anything, Daemond and the Black Small Council were right, they should've struck fast while the Greens were hesitating or vice versa.
Exactly. If they did what otto wanted and sent assassins there wouldn't be war and 10s of thousands of deats or if rhaenys burnedcthe greens in episode 9 no.war. still my leadt favorite scene. They keep saying the men want war but the women counseling peace actually leads to worse war and death
You have to consider that they font have the same information as us. Rhaenyra is in control in Dragonstone, her word had weight and if she asks her sons or her step-daughters to do something they follow along. So Rhaenyra having barely seen Alicent since her kids have grown up assumes that Alicent has the same control on her side. That might be naive of her, but I think Rhaenyra sees Alicent has a woman who is highly manipulative (from her pov she managed to steal her father from her just to get her kids on the throne). So of course Rhae believs if she could simply make Alicent agree with her the war is over. They both can simply tell their kids and vessels to stand down. Additionally I think a part of Rhae’s hesitation has been the story of uniting the realm, and a lingering doubt that maybe Viserys meant for Aegon to take the throne after all, and if she were to fight him she would tear the realm apart and it might lead to the goal of the Conqueror being ruined, but now she knows/believes Viserys fully wished for Rhae to take the throne and that its her destiny to keep the realm strong and prepared
I'm I the only one ? or no reaction channel recognized Diana in that tavern scene. She was Aegon Maid sent away by Alicent because of "what happened to her"
yea what a sad life working as a maid in the castle(which is a good job in this world) to being sexually assaulted by Aegon to be sent away to work in a bar where old men sexually harass her. And still people support team green.
Rhaena and the kids go to the Vale first. Joffrey will stay there. Rhaena will message Pentos and once accepted she and the two youngest will go there then. Tyraxes stays in the Vale. Stormcloud and the four dragon eggs go with Rhaena to Pentos.
Daemon surviving the fall only to be sacrificed by the children of the forest before a weirwood would be brutal and I kind of hope it happens. The fact he has only a passing reference to the threat of the white walkers it would be quite the hubris for him to realise he wasted his efforts chasing glory when had he been someone Viserys could rely on he would have been named heir and made privy to the song of Ice and Fire which I think he would be one of the perfect candidates to unite the realm and gained eternal glory for it.
The black-haired girl who came in as Daemon entered the dining hall is a Rivers, the "bastard name" for a Riverlands bastard. Like how a bastard of the North is a "Snow".
I’m so happy that the air was cleared between Alicent and Rheanyra about the Song Of Ice And Fire. But Alicent is right, even if they managed to convince everyone that Aegon’s Ascension was illegitimate, far too much blood has been spilled on both sides for there to be any kind of peace. Hell the men of this world (aside from the northerners) have been practically begging for war for decades. And let’s face it Rhaenys was right, most men would rather burn the world than have a woman sit on the Iron Throne.
Rhaenys talks out of both sides of her mouth. Yes she's right about the men craving war and that the war was inevitable because of the female heir. But she also gets mad any time someone actually is preparing for war and kind of ignores that she has the highest kill count so far.
I’m guessing George is super into genealogy, cause that naming thing is the plight of anyone into ancestry. Farther back you go, the dates get messed up. People having kids at a young age, and then their kids with the same name get mixed up with them. It’s very frustrating😄
The director confirmed that three of the eggs eventually become Dany’s dragon’s. Which is an interesting change from the books, which imply that Helaena’s dragon, Dreamfyre, laid them decades before the show.
@Skarchest , sorry I don't believe that mashable thing & can't find a legit source confirming it. And don't think they would change the story of Dany eggs like that
@@TristinWright I mean, they had Rhaenys vertical-Kool-Aid man through the dragonpit last season. They aren't exactly keeping 100% to the source material.
Otto and the rest of the Green Counsel were already planning on taking Rhaenyra's throne from the beginning, so Alicent's misunderstanding only really effected her and her decisions. It is too late. We've already seen Alicent has little to no control over her sons. Now that she has encourage Aegon because she misunderstood Viserys' last words, the genie is out of the bottle, and Aegon won't back down.
13:44 Eric said they're going to Pentos, But that's not now, For now they're going as wards to Vale to Lady Jeyne Arryn. From there Rhaena is supposed to talk to Prince of Pentos about going to live there, and if all goes well, then they're to go to Pentos.
Alicent's choice to not divulge it to her house's men, is irrelevant. The upcoming war didn't start & doesn't stop with her. Otto was already planning to usurp Rhaenyra. Olivia Cooke conveyed all the emotions needed in that performance when she realised her mistake. Brilliant.
I still don’t understand the gripe about Alicent misunderstanding Viserys’s words. At best, her involvement in the Green Council’s actions after Viserys’s death saved Rhaenyra from being assassinated by the Kingsguard. At worst, she had no impact on Aegon’s coronation. They were planning to make Aegon King with or without Alicent’s blessing so in truth, Alicent misunderstanding Viserys’s doesn’t have much impact on the story at all yet somehow she takes most of the blame for Aegon being crowned.
Especially since no one believed her anyway. They were planning on putting him on the throne without that knowledge. Alicent words had no impact on the council or the reason aegon was put on the throne
Probably because people do not remember the finer details of season 1. Blind Wave doesn’t always rewatch shows before a new season starts and forgot the finer details. It is not a huge deal, but it can sometimes lead to misunderstanding. They forget Otto had everything planned well before the council meeting and forget Alicent was left out of the loop. As for this being Alicent chose this path for them all though, is weird. Aegon isn’t going to back down at this point. If his grandfather cannot control him there is no way for Alicent can control him. Even if Alicent said something to Aegon he is just going to ignore her and do what he wants.
So the eggs sent out 13:25 at that time were at least in the show version is Drogon, Viserion And Rhaegal (morning was also there as the 4th egg). So the mother of the dragons and to an extent the father was Syrax and Caraxes.
@@TristinWright Quoted from an article: "Speaking with Mashable, Patel (this episode's director) revealed that the dragon eggs seen in House of the Dragon season 2, episode 3 are, in fact, Daenerys'. "Those are Daenerys' eggs. All of us who work on this show are big Game of Thrones fans, so it was very exciting to shoot that scene."
If I'm not mistaken, we saw Ser Gwayne in episode 1 of season 1, getting taken down in the joust by Daemon. But it was just a stuntman who was uncredited, and there's no lines.
no you are mistaken that guy was way bigger and "the eldest son" also its been like 15+ years since episode 1 so if that was Gwayne he would be alot older now. He looks in his 20s here he wouldve been a little kid at the joust
@@ducksauce9187 this wouldnt be the first time they recast minor roles for more appealing actors. Gregor Clegane is Sandors older brother, yet the actor for Sandor is literally 20 years older than Gregor (the final version).
IIRC Rhaena is taking the kids first to The Vale. Joffrey's dragon is gonna uphold the dragon to guard the Vale that Jace negotiated for the Vale's support.
Where do people get the notion that Cristen banging Alicent is known? Fuck, Aegon would have made his buds spill shit out and killed Cristen because AND possibly imprison his mother after hearing what Larys told him. Remember Robb getting really pissed at his mom for letting Jamie go? Only Larys knows about Criston/Alicent situation and he has that card to play whenever he choses.
I've said it in every reaction. Blackwoods and Brackens don't need a reason to fight. Just a place to fight. Remember in Season One when the eight year old "suitor" to Rhaenyra killed the loud-mouthed teenager? That was young Samwell Blackwood killing a Bracken, I believe.
13:38 Not yet Eric. They are going to the Vale first. The idea is that Rhaena is escorting Joffrey and his dragon to the Vale, reassuring Lady Jeyne Arryn while she is there, and then she is going to take Aegon and Viserys to Pentos.
Theres actually a reddit post of Valyrian prefixes and suffixes listed out and then they listed every potential name you could make from these. It was a loooong list, aka they have a lot of options
If it makes you feel any better there were 8 english kings that ruled as Henry, and so many kids named Henry you probably couldn't have closed your eyes and thrown a rock without hitting one.
The Calm Before The Storm. That Battle of the Burning Mill shot reminded me of Plague Tale. And Daemon in Harrenhal reminded me of Dark Souls. Lots of Game References! Anyway, can't wait for the next episode! Great reaction Wave Crew! 🐲🔥🐉🔥💥💥💥
3 things of note: 1) The idea that Alicent now knows (or at least has doubt) that Aegon wasn't her late husbands true wished heir is something I didn't know was going to be possible. 2) Those eggs that are being sent to Pentos are the ones which eventually become Daenerys' in game of thrones. 3) Aemond says that Lord Sam well Blackwood was slain in the battle we didn't see, so does that mean that the young boy we saw in season 1, Wilhelm, is the new Lord Blackwood? (it's such a cool name... "I am Lord Blackwood, of Raventree Hall")
BOOK SPOILERS . . . . I’m calling it now: Alicent is going to be the one who poisons Aegon in his carriage and brings the Dance to an end. Now that she knows the truth, she’s going to feel personally responsible for each death that is to come, as well as for the monster her son turned into, and killing him and bringing an end to the violence is going to be her way of atoning for her part in the Dance and will bring her and Rhaenyra’s story full circle.
Ive also seen my brother theorise that, what if, during rooks rest aemond burns aegon but fails to kill him so he can become king/regent. Im not fully convinced its likely but it'd be kinda cool
I was yesterday years old when I learned that Harrenhal was the largest castle in Westeros before Aegon The Conqueror burned it to the ground! God, it must've been a sight to behold.
Alicent heard what she wanted to hear the night Viserys died. She wanted the position and just heard the name aegon, and immediately thinks that Viserys wants her son to be the successor. All Visery's life he always said that Rhaenyra is his heir to the throne and defended her every time. Even the morning before he died, he didnt want to take the milk of the poppy so he could have a clear mind, walk to the throne felt and go through all that pain just to defend luke as the heir to driftmark to further affirm Rhaeinyra's inheritance and then Alicent The Hypocrite thinks Viserys suddenly changes his mind the same night. Alicent thinks her son aegon the rapist is The Prince that was Promised?? Dafuq!
The war really started when Viserys married Alicent. Irregardless of the misunderstanding Otto was planning to usurp Rheanyra the moment Aegon was born. And to be honest, it would be the same if Viserys married any other lady and had a son, because men would rather have the realm burn than have a woman on the throne.
I thought Rhaenyra sneaking into King's Landing was a little silly, but at the end it was justified because it was proof that events had escelated to the point where there is no going back. Queen Alicent being firmly in denial even when Rhaenyra gave her an opportunity to try and sue for peace, Alicent still didn't take it. Rhaenyra sitting alone quietly was her affirmation that the gloves can finally come off and Westeros will know what it's like when dragons go to war.
While I get what they were going for with that final scene - giving Rhaenyra closure so she understands there really is no other way but war - I kind of felt like we should have been there already (the final shot of S1 suggested she was already ready to go to war). It just felt a bit forced to me, like they wanted a reason to get those 2 actresses in a scene together again. That said, I do think some people criticize it for the wrong reasons. Like, I saw one TH-camr say it made no sense that Rhaenyra didn't try to kill Alicent, and even said that he lost all interest in where things go from here, because Rhaenyra "could have ended the war right here." It just felt like he wasn't paying attention at all. Not only would killing Alicent not have ended anything, it would have just added more fuel to the Greens' fire.
Fun fact: There's another Aegon called the Unworthy. He had a shit ton of bastard kids, and for shits and giggles, legitimate them, which later caused the Blackfire Rebellion.
*Fans saw the opening scene with Blackwoods & Brackens taking everybody's lives & leaving no winners & were like "anyway! When are the main characters gonna start killing each other??"* Starting by showing the human cost of war should’ve been enough to grasp why a peaceful solution should be sought after to the extreme...& yet. Multiple characters all thru the episode comment on how cyclical violence begets violence & perception of blame is manipulated. Like Lord Simon says "the reason is lost to time". Rhaenyra wears Jaehaerys the Conciliator's crown: Rhaenys is literally spoonfeeding the theme in a way GoT never bothered to do! If GoT came out today ppl would be crying about Tyrion giving Cat Ned's bones & trying to negotiate Jamie for the girls! “Why they still trying to prevent a war & seek peace!! Bad writing!" All of GoT s2 would be considered filler! Ofc the Sept meeting didn't make sense to Targ stans, Daemyra shippers & "I want Aegon vs Rhaenyra war movie" Greens. Cause they're so adamant in not understanding the focal point of this adaptation : Rhaenyra & Alicent being torn apart by feudal patriarchy. That despite everything, they still care for & value each other. You don’t even have to perceive their love as romantic. But outright denial, letting your prejudices dumb you down & make you refuse to even engage with what the story has made abundantly clear is wild!The complain about logistics is hypocritical as Daemon goes to KL in ep1. Daemon is a man so when he does crazy things it’s awesome & cool! But Rhaenyra goes off the deep end & it's weak, passive & dumb! "What happened to her rage?" A six year old child was murdered in her command. God forbid she goes thru internal conflict after that. Or think of Alicent's arc as a man : *"a boy who was raised to always do his duty no matter how high the price; has a moment where he mistakenly believes all his sacrifice might've been worth it for the realm, then slowly realizes there's too much blood on his hands to stop." Ppl would be obsessed.* But a complex female character gets "she's so dumb" or "she's a b word". *Alicent didn’t place Aegon on the throne cause she misunderstood the prophecy; the prophecy simply gave her an acceptable justification for doing what she had to do. It was a tool of self-deception. Which was made clear when Alicent brilliantly used the "I swear on my mother" line which Rhaenyra used as a lie in s1.* Alicent’s wants were of no relevance. *Aegon would've been placed on the throne with or without her support. Her placing him there just granted her a degree of influence over him.* Hotd acknowledging men's violence isn't "gender essentialism". These men are violent cause they were taught that they have the right to be. Nothing sexist about the two female characters pondering the reality of a brutal war as they've been subjected to this everyday violence the most. "But Alicent & Rhaenyra's kids should come before their love". Exactly...they have the most at stake. Have you considered the best way to protect their kids is to stop killing each other? The kids are already dying. Aegon is about to be disfigured & paralyzed. Ofc Alicent would want to do anything she can to stop this. But she is destined to fail. Which is the tragedy. Many women tend to be in denial about the harshly realistic portrayal of Alicent & Rhaenyra's every walking moment being a struggle against misogyny (like Rhaenyra's sexist council) cause they have the girlboss fantasy of how they would've "done things differently" if put in these type situations.
15:52 Maybe, but more likely that they are newly appointed. They were the same guys who were drinking with him in the throne room in the first episode. They're not taking the role seriously, as we saw by them chilling on the steps when Ser Criston came downstairs.
@@jackalope_hunter huh, dont see it as shock value, just realism. They are in a brothel, of course dongs and boobs will hang. Never really payed any attention to it, its just cool, like gorey video games, same goes for the boys
It's a terrible way to watch a film with all those damn lights in the back! I always have to make the room dark with all lights off, curtains on, proper theatre room, else I can't watch.
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8:18 bro Eric who is Jaharys and Vasarys?
Hey guys, I don't know if you understood that king Aegon put his "bros" his frat friends as kingsguards. He promoted his idiot friends just as he promoted his idiot commander of the kingsguard. He really, at a moment of an escalating war sorrounded himself by idiot boys to guide him and serve. For a second, before he got drunk, he was feeling concern.
And it sounds like they didn’t quite remember the vow of chastity bit, whoops 😂
yeah he seemed a bit pissed when he heard they weren't taking their oath seriously but i think his want for love and approval leads him to want to hangout with hem and fuck around even if he knows its a poor choice
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Makes the eventual ending of these characters even more frustrating, doesn't it. 😅
tbf atleast he knows he can trust his friends and they wont defect or betray him... unlike some people
@@alexanderwiles2003He also realizes they’re all hypocrites and frauds
I think you guys misunderstood where Rhaena and the children are going. First, they are all going to the Vale so Joffrey can start his wardship there. Rhaenyra is sending her two youngest children as well and she asked Rhaena to go with them to look after her half-brothers. Now Rhaenyra said to write to the prince in Pentos and *IF* he will take them all in, go there with the younger boys so they are further out of the Greens' reach. So, at the moment, the plan is to go to the Vale, with a possibility of extending the journey to Pentos if the opportunity to do so comes to pass.
Yeah, a lot of people have gotten that confused along with the 4 eggs, somehow being Dany's.
bro blind wave fell off, they understand so little nowadays in shows. all those notes and they cant remember peoples names
@@GreyMagee74 the episode's director confirmed they are daenerys eggs
@@jp.iglesias1 I thought Elissa Farmen stole Dany's eggs?
@@manvirshergill1739 and you aren't wrong, but that's from the books. I guess they are going on another route for the show
I don't think it's necessarily embarrassment that's stopping Alicent from backing down, I think Alicent genuinely believes she don't have the power or authority now to stop it, the wheel is turning too fast to stop and the situation has ascended beyond anyone's control. Besides the Greens were gonna crown Aegon regardless of Alicent's wishes and whether Viserys changed his mind or not, Otto had been planning this for years now.
Exactly. She's trying to control a bunch of bloodthirsty manchildren and failing. It's basically the Joffrey situation all over again but with a lot less needless sadism and psychopathy. Not saying their anger is completely unjustified but they're so shortsighted it hurts lol.
@@soulofconflict unjustified in its genesis. The thought that Rhaenyra would kill Alicent’s kids was false premise. Otto being scared of Daemon, then Rhaenyra led to this. Of course now with blood and cheese, different game
@@LaCheeserie False premises? No. While Rheanyra herself might not have wanted Alicents kids dead, her council - especially Daemon - would push for it, even to the point of doing it behind her back. Otto was smart to be worried about Daemon and he did see that Rheanyra was close with him, adding to the fact that Rheanyra doesn't heed Otto's advice . He knew he had to get her out. But he still tried to marry her to Aegon which would have solved his issue by keeping Daemon away. But Viserys said no which finalised Otto's goal of getting rid of Rheanyra.
I don’t understand what Rhaenyra means when she says ‘if war can be averted it’s my duty to’….. how can it be averted? There are only 2 ways for the war to be stopped, Rhaenyra renounces her claim as Queen or Aegon steps down as king, either decision rendered the death of one of their children meaningless. Do we think either would seriously consider stepping down? The show keeps saying war could be averted if it weren’t for those evil men around Rhaenyra and Alicent, yet they started the war. What concrete 3rd path exists to avoid war? The writing worries me with this show
@@corvus2512 You're viewing/thinking about all of this as a third person seeing all story lines. You're not letting yourself view through each characters eyes/knowledge/beliefs. When they speak of averting the war, they believe it. Rhaenyra doesn't know how little power Alicent has anymore, she doesn't know what kind of vengeful/reckless character King Aegon has become, or what the mood/atmosphere/temperament is on the Green side. She hopes to hold onto the last time she saw Alicent at Viserys' final dinner, when they found "peace" between each other. It's not about whether there actually is a path to averting the war or not. We all know this is inevitable because we see each action leading to it on both sides. Each character does not see all we see. When it comes to actual war, if there is any hint of hope of avoiding it, then they will understandably seek it out until they know for themselves that it is truly impossible. We have all the evidence and logic of where this is going, but they don't. Like, if someone edited the series to only show one character's scenes and it was your first time viewing the series, you would have a very different perspective of the whole story.
Alicent is right that its too late, but that isn't the point of the scene. This conversation strengthens Rhaenera's resolve. She might've been having personal doubts about her claim to the throne, and then she does know Alicent and would know if she's lying, so to hear Alicent be SO sure that Viserys changed his mind is devastating for her. Then to hear the actual words and know her father loved her and remained true to the end and never wanted Aegon to be king, I felt that deep in my soul when she realized that. Now she has the resolve to fight for her inheritance. THAT was the point of that scene. She needed this.
Also, I've not seen one reactor realize that the woman who brings Ulf and his buddies ale and then gets her butt smacked is Dyana, the girl that Aegon SA'd in season 1.
So well said - it’s all about Rhaenyra knowing Viserys did not abandon her. He protected her until the moment he died.
Daemon: "Then we'll take the Iron Throne."
Simon: "The Throne? What is it?"
Daemon: "It's a big chair with swords on it. But that's not important right now."
That's some "Airplane" type shit. I loved it.
@@JuanCarrillo-Nava airplane?
@@rexibhazoboa7097it’s an 80s comedy film that uses that type of literalistic humor
Simon didn’t ask “what is it”, to be fair, he just incredulously asked “The Throne?” because Daemon apparently intends to conquer King’s Landing from the leakiest, most ruined castle in the realm.
@grahamduff7383 ...but that's not important right now...
Game of Thrones universe 101: STOP NAMING KIDS AEGON!💀
They didn’t learn. Even Jon Snow got Aegon’d💀
It makes sense. People in royalty name their kids after fathers and grandfathers all the time. Same with Commonborn people. Commonborn people name their kids after names that hold great value. Such as John, Henry, William, Muhammad, etc...
@@Lowkenn_EditsI’m pretty sure there were like 17 king Louis of France
@@jcruz8458Louis 16 and 17 were brothers who both had the same name and the king before Louis 16 was their grandfather who was Louis 15.
@@TheTrollingMaster-xr9el thanks for that info. Yeah it’s pretty crazy how related most monarchs are
I respect y’all for not censoring those scenes, bold as fuck.
did they realize? lmao
They definitely forgot 😂 @@OutofTheaterReviews
@@mythicalfelixI HOPE SO, I was caught so off guard when I was watching last night lmao
@@mythicalfelix wouldnt they get a strike if its not allowed?
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I think the biggest thing to come from the final discussion between Alicent and Rhaenyra is that Alicent can no longer justify to herself any of the actions her house takes to keep Aegon on the throne. The beginning of her descent was in the sept with Rhaenyra. It has nothing to do Alicent’s ability to stop the war: it’s about how she will handle the repercussions of it.
I loved the Harrenhal scenes, it felt like i was watching a horror movie. And seeing Milly Alcock who played young Rhaenyra was a bonus ❤
XD..
I think your editor forgot to censor Aemond's dragon lol
and the blow job/scenes the entire segment
*worm let be real
@@anais6654 brothels are notoriously cold places. 😂😂
@@anais6654you misspelled vhagar.
It doesn't seem like they censored anything in the brothel lmao
The young lady who came in as the Castellan knelt is a "Rivers", the Riverlands version of a Northerner being a "Snow".
Gwayne Hightower was the same guy from Episode 1 who got beat at the tournament
Moondancer's design is so freaking cool
They really leaned into the Harrenhall being haunted and cursed thing.
And I love it.
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They know which one is Erryk and which is Arryk, but Rhaenyra chose to bury them together. Last episode, Erryk literally says "Your Grace" before killing himself. The other is sworn to Aegon; he will not call her, Your Grace.
People are forgetting that the innevitable war between Greens and Blacks wasn't started because of Viserys 'indecision' about his heir, his council had been plotting to name Aegon king long before Viserys' death, and even though they made it seem as it was Alicent's misunderstanding of Viserys' words what triggered their plan, it actually had little to no relevance as they would've taken the throne regardless of Viserys' intentions. As Rhaenys said: "Men would rather let the world burn than see a woman sit the Iron Throne".
Therefore I also think Alicent saying "there's no mistake" isn't she being ashamed of her mistake, but rather she finally realising Viserys' never changed his mind but also knowing that the war would've started regardless, and that there's nothing she or anyone can do to stop it. I love the parallel they do with the conflict between Blackwoods and Brackens: neither of them know why they hate eachother, nor who started it, nor who's right or wrong, they just fight. It's kind of the same between the Greens and the Blacks, it no longer matters who's right, who's wrong, who started it, who continued it, war between the two is innevitable.
Alicent realised this, it's too late to stop the war, so that conversation was just the last goodbye between two women who were once best friends.
Ulf the White, Hugh Hammer, and Adam were all three seen last week, in scenes that all related to the food shortage.
Ulf the White stole a piece of fruit or something from the basket of someone who walked past him.
Hugh and his wife discussed how expensive the meal they were having was.
Adam was "crabbing" for dinner.
Almost like the writers are trying to connect them, somehow.
To offer a different perspective on the whole Aegon naming thing.... When Viserys died, only Aegon II and Aegon III (Rhaenyra and Daemon's son) are alive. So, while it can be somewhat of a reach, I don't think it's inconceivable that when Alicent heard Viserys' dying words, she understands it as "Aegon, the prince that was promised" as her son, because everybody thought about it as "It's either Rhaenyra or Aegon" . And all of it kind of doesn't matter anyway, since Otto and the council were already planning to usurp the throne even without Alicent coming in with the whole "Viserys changed his mind" thing.
and in ep3 he told alicent that he dreamt his son was the King
@@hali_55 Exactly, I just don't like that a lot of people seem to think that the whole conflict is only because of "Alicent misunderstood him". There is that for sure, but there is a lot more to it than that
@@NickP666 yeah, Alicent’s misunderstanding had no impact on Aegon’s coronation
@@NickP666 exactly the green council already had their plans
Exactly! Everyone is blaming on Alicent when she did the best she could. Maybe it didn't end up well but she never wanted any of it. She wanted Rhaenyra to be queen but she wanted to give her dead husband his last wish. She's not bad and doesn't deserve that much hate, it's just she's really unlucky.
I feel like leanor died wherever he is and that's why sea smoke has been acting up cuz he can feel it and that's how he gets a new rider because thar bond was broke
This makes a lot of sense I don’t no why more people haven’t caught into that
It's such a weird decision to keep him alive and then just have him die off screen and unmentioned though
Nah, theyd just move on then. Being restless is because they are waiting for him to return because they know he is alive
@@CoRLex-jh5vx because they didnt want Rhaenyra to be the one to kill him since it would be out of character for her. (im talking show not books)
@ducksauce9187 yes, but why not have a scene of him dying in the meantime? Daemon is gone so it's not like Rhaenyra can discuss with him "Oh yeah Seasmoke is acting weird because Laenor probably just died". If he HAS died, it's completely off screen and unmentioned, which as I said is a weird move to make. I don't mind the change but at least have clarification on when Laenor actually dies yk
The best thing about this season thus far is how they are slowly building up the dragon seeds for the second half of the season. So when that moment comes where their impact on the story surprises the general audience it will have that holy shit moment without feeling like it came out of nowhere. My only nitpick is that they haven't shown Jace being the great leader that he is at this point, or could be. Especially since at this point of time he does take a more of a leadership role, which soon leads up to the dragon seeds.
That’s likely coming soon
@@SolitaryLark I hope so
Yeh exactly! I've really liked the introductions of Addam, Ulf and Hugh this season.
@@manvirshergill1739 Agreed, there just one seed missing I wonder how they will introduced her this season.
@@timothypolanco8622 Nettles was actually the character I was most looking forward to next to Alys Rivers. The show hasn't eve confirmed if she's going to appear next season or not... here's hoping 🤞
To be perfectly fair, while I understand where Rhaenyra and Alicent are coming from, they should have known that neither side was going to back down.
If anything, Daemond and the Black Small Council were right, they should've struck fast while the Greens were hesitating or vice versa.
Exactly. If they did what otto wanted and sent assassins there wouldn't be war and 10s of thousands of deats or if rhaenys burnedcthe greens in episode 9 no.war. still my leadt favorite scene. They keep saying the men want war but the women counseling peace actually leads to worse war and death
You have to consider that they font have the same information as us. Rhaenyra is in control in Dragonstone, her word had weight and if she asks her sons or her step-daughters to do something they follow along. So Rhaenyra having barely seen Alicent since her kids have grown up assumes that Alicent has the same control on her side. That might be naive of her, but I think Rhaenyra sees Alicent has a woman who is highly manipulative (from her pov she managed to steal her father from her just to get her kids on the throne).
So of course Rhae believs if she could simply make Alicent agree with her the war is over. They both can simply tell their kids and vessels to stand down.
Additionally I think a part of Rhae’s hesitation has been the story of uniting the realm, and a lingering doubt that maybe Viserys meant for Aegon to take the throne after all, and if she were to fight him she would tear the realm apart and it might lead to the goal of the Conqueror being ruined, but now she knows/believes Viserys fully wished for Rhae to take the throne and that its her destiny to keep the realm strong and prepared
That scene with Baela and Criston was just the show-makers teasing us with Ser Criston The Crispy
Dang, full uncensored episode reaction, Awesome!
So early the Hawk tuah still uncensored lmao
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I noticed that as well. Lol
Bc it's a dildo and not real
Surely that’s a prosthetic right? Some kind of dildo?
What's hawk tuah?
17:51 When Aegon barked the "WOOF WOOF" at Aemond I spat my drink out cos that joke was dark as night 🌑 🤣
I'm I the only one ? or no reaction channel recognized Diana in that tavern scene. She was Aegon Maid sent away by Alicent because of "what happened to her"
Omg u right 😂😂😂 I definitely didn’t notice that
yea what a sad life working as a maid in the castle(which is a good job in this world) to being sexually assaulted by Aegon to be sent away to work in a bar where old men sexually harass her. And still people support team green.
@@Jaysavage9270 Nobody did 😂
@@yassinemiri3555I noticed it.
@@manvirshergill1739 talking about reactors not us anonymous whisperers 😅
In case some of you don't know this, that sept is known as the Great Sept, but it is not the Grand Sept of Baelor! 😅
I wonder if Seasmoke is restless because he can sense Laenor's death
I get the sense that’s what was being hinted at
It feels that way.
And I believe in the book that leads somewhere.
@@scotthewitt258 in the book Laenor is actually dead. killed in a duel.
@@mamaseesa3122 Haven't read the book yet. But, have heard rumors about Seasmoke and a character who saw him.
@@mamaseesa3122 Isn't that because it is a history book and no historians were aware of the truth?
Rhaena and the kids go to the Vale first. Joffrey will stay there. Rhaena will message Pentos and once accepted she and the two youngest will go there then. Tyraxes stays in the Vale. Stormcloud and the four dragon eggs go with Rhaena to Pentos.
Let’s go Alys Rivers and Daemon next to a heart tree. Near the isle of faces. Theories going crazy right now.
Daemon surviving the fall only to be sacrificed by the children of the forest before a weirwood would be brutal and I kind of hope it happens. The fact he has only a passing reference to the threat of the white walkers it would be quite the hubris for him to realise he wasted his efforts chasing glory when had he been someone Viserys could rely on he would have been named heir and made privy to the song of Ice and Fire which I think he would be one of the perfect candidates to unite the realm and gained eternal glory for it.
The black-haired girl who came in as Daemon entered the dining hall is a Rivers, the "bastard name" for a Riverlands bastard. Like how a bastard of the North is a "Snow".
And she's a witch!
Ain't no way anyone would catch me in Harrenhal.
I’m so happy that the air was cleared between Alicent and Rheanyra about the Song Of Ice And Fire. But Alicent is right, even if they managed to convince everyone that Aegon’s Ascension was illegitimate, far too much blood has been spilled on both sides for there to be any kind of peace.
Hell the men of this world (aside from the northerners) have been practically begging for war for decades. And let’s face it Rhaenys was right, most men would rather burn the world than have a woman sit on the Iron Throne.
Rhaenys talks out of both sides of her mouth. Yes she's right about the men craving war and that the war was inevitable because of the female heir. But she also gets mad any time someone actually is preparing for war and kind of ignores that she has the highest kill count so far.
I’m guessing George is super into genealogy, cause that naming thing is the plight of anyone into ancestry. Farther back you go, the dates get messed up. People having kids at a young age, and then their kids with the same name get mixed up with them. It’s very frustrating😄
The director confirmed that three of the eggs eventually become Dany’s dragon’s. Which is an interesting change from the books, which imply that Helaena’s dragon, Dreamfyre, laid them decades before the show.
I haven't found anything that the director confirm those r Dany eggs
I hope that’s not true. Would be an awful change imo.
@@TristinWrightthen youve clearly not used google as she did an interview with mashable
@Skarchest , sorry I don't believe that mashable thing & can't find a legit source confirming it. And don't think they would change the story of Dany eggs like that
@@TristinWright I mean, they had Rhaenys vertical-Kool-Aid man through the dragonpit last season. They aren't exactly keeping 100% to the source material.
this must be the uncensored reaction
Otto and the rest of the Green Counsel were already planning on taking Rhaenyra's throne from the beginning, so Alicent's misunderstanding only really effected her and her decisions. It is too late. We've already seen Alicent has little to no control over her sons. Now that she has encourage Aegon because she misunderstood Viserys' last words, the genie is out of the bottle, and Aegon won't back down.
13:44 Eric said they're going to Pentos, But that's not now, For now they're going as wards to Vale to Lady Jeyne Arryn. From there Rhaena is supposed to talk to Prince of Pentos about going to live there, and if all goes well, then they're to go to Pentos.
Alicent's choice to not divulge it to her house's men, is irrelevant. The upcoming war didn't start & doesn't stop with her. Otto was already planning to usurp Rhaenyra.
Olivia Cooke conveyed all the emotions needed in that performance when she realised her mistake. Brilliant.
I still don’t understand the gripe about Alicent misunderstanding Viserys’s words. At best, her involvement in the Green Council’s actions after Viserys’s death saved Rhaenyra from being assassinated by the Kingsguard. At worst, she had no impact on Aegon’s coronation. They were planning to make Aegon King with or without Alicent’s blessing so in truth, Alicent misunderstanding Viserys’s doesn’t have much impact on the story at all yet somehow she takes most of the blame for Aegon being crowned.
Especially since no one believed her anyway. They were planning on putting him on the throne without that knowledge. Alicent words had no impact on the council or the reason aegon was put on the throne
Probably because people do not remember the finer details of season 1. Blind Wave doesn’t always rewatch shows before a new season starts and forgot the finer details. It is not a huge deal, but it can sometimes lead to misunderstanding. They forget Otto had everything planned well before the council meeting and forget Alicent was left out of the loop.
As for this being Alicent chose this path for them all though, is weird. Aegon isn’t going to back down at this point. If his grandfather cannot control him there is no way for Alicent can control him. Even if Alicent said something to Aegon he is just going to ignore her and do what he wants.
@@Jjop017you don't even need to have rewatched season 1. Otto pretty much says it to Aegon earlier in the season-- he was the one that crowned him.
@@TheGuyCalledX Chances are the crew forgot about that too or they are overestimating how much power Alicent has in her situation.
Condal said it’s just a character moment. Alicent is just hearing what she wants to. It would have happened regardless
Love you guys! I've included you in a fan reaction compilation for this episode, I hope you enjoy it!
Aemond got violated in his safe spot by Aegon. I can feel his pain and shame.
I feel like Blind Wave should react to the behind the scene of the episodes, they're really neat :D
So the eggs sent out 13:25 at that time were at least in the show version is Drogon, Viserion And Rhaegal (morning was also there as the 4th egg). So the mother of the dragons and to an extent the father was Syrax and Caraxes.
Do the colors match? Thats a weird choice because they already set up dreamfyre as the parent.
No, it hasn't been confirmed that those r Dany eggs. Just a theory
@@TristinWrightthe director of the episode confirmed it
@Skarchest where the proof that they confirm it. I can't find any legic source saying the director of that episode confirm it Dany eggs
@@TristinWright Quoted from an article:
"Speaking with Mashable, Patel (this episode's director) revealed that the dragon eggs seen in House of the Dragon season 2, episode 3 are, in fact, Daenerys'.
"Those are Daenerys' eggs. All of us who work on this show are big Game of Thrones fans, so it was very exciting to shoot that scene."
If I'm not mistaken, we saw Ser Gwayne in episode 1 of season 1, getting taken down in the joust by Daemon. But it was just a stuntman who was uncredited, and there's no lines.
no you are mistaken that guy was way bigger and "the eldest son" also its been like 15+ years since episode 1 so if that was Gwayne he would be alot older now. He looks in his 20s here he wouldve been a little kid at the joust
@@ducksauce9187 this wouldnt be the first time they recast minor roles for more appealing actors. Gregor Clegane is Sandors older brother, yet the actor for Sandor is literally 20 years older than Gregor (the final version).
It really is out of Alicent's hands to stop the Usurption.
Otto and the Council were already plotting before she made her mistake.
IIRC Rhaena is taking the kids first to The Vale. Joffrey's dragon is gonna uphold the dragon to guard the Vale that Jace negotiated for the Vale's support.
Where do people get the notion that Cristen banging Alicent is known? Fuck, Aegon would have made his buds spill shit out and killed Cristen because AND possibly imprison his mother after hearing what Larys told him. Remember Robb getting really pissed at his mom for letting Jamie go? Only Larys knows about Criston/Alicent situation and he has that card to play whenever he choses.
Otto might suspect but would never speak of it
Nah, everyone BUT Aegon knows. Aegon isn't smart enough to figure that out. But pretty much everyone around him is.
Yeah. Cause those guys seem smart.@@yetibeardson1168
“dude hung brain”
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Awesome reaction gents!!
I've said it in every reaction.
Blackwoods and Brackens don't need a reason to fight.
Just a place to fight.
Remember in Season One when the eight year old "suitor" to Rhaenyra killed the loud-mouthed teenager? That was young Samwell Blackwood killing a Bracken, I believe.
13:38 Not yet Eric. They are going to the Vale first. The idea is that Rhaena is escorting Joffrey and his dragon to the Vale, reassuring Lady Jeyne Arryn while she is there, and then she is going to take Aegon and Viserys to Pentos.
Theres actually a reddit post of Valyrian prefixes and suffixes listed out and then they listed every potential name you could make from these. It was a loooong list, aka they have a lot of options
Oh this is definitely gettin taken down in the next 10 mins 😂😂
If it makes you feel any better there were 8 english kings that ruled as Henry, and so many kids named Henry you probably couldn't have closed your eyes and thrown a rock without hitting one.
France had like 20 King Louis and a 100 Prince Louis....
Westeros and it's 6 Aegons is nothing
Man we had 11 Edwards 8 Henrys and 6 Georges in real life, the Targaryens actually have a lot of restraint
God, I can't wait for Bloody Ben to show up in this. The Blackwoods from this point on are one of the most interesting houses in ASOIAF!
The Calm Before The Storm.
That Battle of the Burning Mill shot reminded me of Plague Tale.
And Daemon in Harrenhal reminded me of Dark Souls.
Lots of Game References!
Anyway, can't wait for the next episode!
Great reaction Wave Crew!
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Love that you guys notice the new changes in the intro!
"No, Id be Dead by now" LMAOOOOOO
The twins where buried together because it's what she thought they would have wanted like she said you can't blame him for keeping his oath
It is now TV canon that three of the eggs Rhaena is protecting are Dany's Dragons.
When I heard Rhaenyra ask Alicent what her father said on his death bed I was like "Finally. The right question!"
3 things of note:
1) The idea that Alicent now knows (or at least has doubt) that Aegon wasn't her late husbands true wished heir is something I didn't know was going to be possible.
2) Those eggs that are being sent to Pentos are the ones which eventually become Daenerys' in game of thrones.
3) Aemond says that Lord Sam well Blackwood was slain in the battle we didn't see, so does that mean that the young boy we saw in season 1, Wilhelm, is the new Lord Blackwood? (it's such a cool name... "I am Lord Blackwood, of Raventree Hall")
Those eggs that were sent away... Three of them are the eggs Daenerys gets given. I wonder what happens to the 4th egg.
Gwayne was in the tournament in the first episode of Season One when the Queen and the baby died.
Alicent's "WTF?" face was great 😆
I was here before the video is taken down
Not reuploaded, just edited
Criston got attacked for his plan and her here’s Rhaenyras stupid plan walking into KL lol
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I’m calling it now: Alicent is going to be the one who poisons Aegon in his carriage and brings the Dance to an end. Now that she knows the truth, she’s going to feel personally responsible for each death that is to come, as well as for the monster her son turned into, and killing him and bringing an end to the violence is going to be her way of atoning for her part in the Dance and will bring her and Rhaenyra’s story full circle.
I like this theory. It would give another reason why she's insane at the end
Probably... especially if both the Sea Snake and Larys convinced her it's the only path to peace
Ive also seen my brother theorise that, what if, during rooks rest aemond burns aegon but fails to kill him so he can become king/regent. Im not fully convinced its likely but it'd be kinda cool
Yep I think Aemond is gonna smash vhaegar into sunfyre next week while going for meleys. Can’t wait for next weeks episode
@@Belladonna313 and aegon will kill rhaenyra. i am living for that. that biatch lived so long.
Rhanerya telling Alicent vesierys meant Aegon the conqueror Aaron we really should use different names it’s so true 😂
The Harrenhal stuff was so good. It wasn't as spooky in GoT and they really nailed it in this episode. Harrenhal is CURSED and SPOOKY!
38:32 Meet him we did. Daemon knocked him down in the joust in season one. Not the actor though, just a stunt-man.
I was yesterday years old when I learned that Harrenhal was the largest castle in Westeros before Aegon The Conqueror burned it to the ground! God, it must've been a sight to behold.
Fun fact: the masons laid the last stone in Harrenhal on the very day that Aegon landed in Westeros.
Alicent heard what she wanted to hear the night Viserys died. She wanted the position and just heard the name aegon, and immediately thinks that Viserys wants her son to be the successor. All Visery's life he always said that Rhaenyra is his heir to the throne and defended her every time. Even the morning before he died, he didnt want to take the milk of the poppy so he could have a clear mind, walk to the throne felt and go through all that pain just to defend luke as the heir to driftmark to further affirm Rhaeinyra's inheritance and then Alicent The Hypocrite thinks Viserys suddenly changes his mind the same night. Alicent thinks her son aegon the rapist is The Prince that was Promised?? Dafuq!
0:27 Love is the death of duty. ~Maester Aemon
Joffrey and the baby dragons go to the Vale. All others (eggs too) go to Pentos.
3 of those eggs end up being Dany’s eggs in GoT 169 years later or something
Ummm… editor? I think you forgot some stuff to blur out 😅
I was there for the One-Eyed Dragon reaction.
You guys really tried to add in ALL the dongs in the reaction 😭
The war really started when Viserys married Alicent. Irregardless of the misunderstanding Otto was planning to usurp Rheanyra the moment Aegon was born. And to be honest, it would be the same if Viserys married any other lady and had a son, because men would rather have the realm burn than have a woman on the throne.
So early it's uncensored
I thought Rhaenyra sneaking into King's Landing was a little silly, but at the end it was justified because it was proof that events had escelated to the point where there is no going back. Queen Alicent being firmly in denial even when Rhaenyra gave her an opportunity to try and sue for peace, Alicent still didn't take it. Rhaenyra sitting alone quietly was her affirmation that the gloves can finally come off and Westeros will know what it's like when dragons go to war.
There is no opportunity. Alicent doesnt have any power over Aegon anymore.
I wonder if Ser Criston asking for Alicent's favour is a reference to God Speed by Edmund Blair-Leighton.
It was magnanimous of Alicent to not call the guards to arrest Her Majesty
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That’s why you guys are the GOATs of this realm
Simon Strong is that one thug from the BTAS who looks in the room, sees Batman, closes the door, and quietly walks away.
While I get what they were going for with that final scene - giving Rhaenyra closure so she understands there really is no other way but war - I kind of felt like we should have been there already (the final shot of S1 suggested she was already ready to go to war). It just felt a bit forced to me, like they wanted a reason to get those 2 actresses in a scene together again.
That said, I do think some people criticize it for the wrong reasons. Like, I saw one TH-camr say it made no sense that Rhaenyra didn't try to kill Alicent, and even said that he lost all interest in where things go from here, because Rhaenyra "could have ended the war right here." It just felt like he wasn't paying attention at all. Not only would killing Alicent not have ended anything, it would have just added more fuel to the Greens' fire.
This is about to be a rare video, that take down notice has to be coming soon. Download it now to keep an uncensored copy.
If only I had premium
@@LaCheeserie there are other ways out there if you search hard enough.
Fun fact: There's another Aegon called the Unworthy. He had a shit ton of bastard kids, and for shits and giggles, legitimate them, which later caused the Blackfire Rebellion.
Those eggs are the eggs gifted to Daenerys, little over hundred years later.
Holy crap I'm glad someone else thought it looked like Dark Souls. First thing I said as I watched it was "Daemon's playing Dark Souls" lol.
I love the relationship between The Queen Who Should Have Been and Corlys.
Uh oh
*Fans saw the opening scene with Blackwoods & Brackens taking everybody's lives & leaving no winners & were like "anyway! When are the main characters gonna start killing each other??"* Starting by showing the human cost of war should’ve been enough to grasp why a peaceful solution should be sought after to the extreme...& yet. Multiple characters all thru the episode comment on how cyclical violence begets violence & perception of blame is manipulated. Like Lord Simon says "the reason is lost to time". Rhaenyra wears Jaehaerys the Conciliator's crown: Rhaenys is literally spoonfeeding the theme in a way GoT never bothered to do! If GoT came out today ppl would be crying about Tyrion giving Cat Ned's bones & trying to negotiate Jamie for the girls! “Why they still trying to prevent a war & seek peace!! Bad writing!" All of GoT s2 would be considered filler! Ofc the Sept meeting didn't make sense to Targ stans, Daemyra shippers & "I want Aegon vs Rhaenyra war movie" Greens. Cause they're so adamant in not understanding the focal point of this adaptation : Rhaenyra & Alicent being torn apart by feudal patriarchy. That despite everything, they still care for & value each other. You don’t even have to perceive their love as romantic. But outright denial, letting your prejudices dumb you down & make you refuse to even engage with what the story has made abundantly clear is wild!The complain about logistics is hypocritical as Daemon goes to KL in ep1. Daemon is a man so when he does crazy things it’s awesome & cool! But Rhaenyra goes off the deep end & it's weak, passive & dumb! "What happened to her rage?" A six year old child was murdered in her command. God forbid she goes thru internal conflict after that. Or think of Alicent's arc as a man : *"a boy who was raised to always do his duty no matter how high the price; has a moment where he mistakenly believes all his sacrifice might've been worth it for the realm, then slowly realizes there's too much blood on his hands to stop." Ppl would be obsessed.* But a complex female character gets "she's so dumb" or "she's a b word". *Alicent didn’t place Aegon on the throne cause she misunderstood the prophecy; the prophecy simply gave her an acceptable justification for doing what she had to do. It was a tool of self-deception. Which was made clear when Alicent brilliantly used the "I swear on my mother" line which Rhaenyra used as a lie in s1.* Alicent’s wants were of no relevance. *Aegon would've been placed on the throne with or without her support. Her placing him there just granted her a degree of influence over him.* Hotd acknowledging men's violence isn't "gender essentialism". These men are violent cause they were taught that they have the right to be. Nothing sexist about the two female characters pondering the reality of a brutal war as they've been subjected to this everyday violence the most. "But Alicent & Rhaenyra's kids should come before their love". Exactly...they have the most at stake. Have you considered the best way to protect their kids is to stop killing each other? The kids are already dying. Aegon is about to be disfigured & paralyzed. Ofc Alicent would want to do anything she can to stop this. But she is destined to fail. Which is the tragedy. Many women tend to be in denial about the harshly realistic portrayal of Alicent & Rhaenyra's every walking moment being a struggle against misogyny (like Rhaenyra's sexist council) cause they have the girlboss fantasy of how they would've "done things differently" if put in these type situations.
15:52 Maybe, but more likely that they are newly appointed. They were the same guys who were drinking with him in the throne room in the first episode. They're not taking the role seriously, as we saw by them chilling on the steps when Ser Criston came downstairs.
Lotta dongs in this reaction…
idk why the show still tries to go for shock value
Yeah, season 1 did so much better at handling sex scenes
Nothing wrong with showing nudity. @@jackalope_hunter
@@jackalope_hunter huh, dont see it as shock value, just realism. They are in a brothel, of course dongs and boobs will hang.
Never really payed any attention to it, its just cool, like gorey video games, same goes for the boys
14:57 Larys is quite tall indeed, about 6'3" I would say. It's just less noticeable because of his hunched posture.
Her going from saying there was no mistake to its too late leaves an opening for her to walk it back at some point.
It's a terrible way to watch a film with all those damn lights in the back! I always have to make the room dark with all lights off, curtains on, proper theatre room, else I can't watch.