Same! Followed by the football results - my grandad sat with his pools coupon on a clipboard, and woe betide anyone who dared speak while the scores were read out 😂
They need to make a movie about the Mighty John Quinn. He wrestled with all the legends, Bret hart, Davie Boy smith, Andrey the giant, you name it. He was North American Champion for 6 years in the 70's. I was lucky enough to be in his daughters grad class, so for the one year we had a wrestling team in a small town in BC he volunteered as asst. coach for my wrestling team. It was a pleasure to learn from him and hear his stories....Thanks John...
Ah yes, truly great we were in 1979. Food shortages, oil shortages, the winter of discontent, Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Tredget, food inflation at 10%, endless IRA bombings, which of those do you miss most?
@@VelvetMetrolinkWhereas nowadays we have riots, homeless, knife crime, drugs galore, online trolls, more mental health problems than ever... yes, we've certainly come a long way...
Ive study and watch and learn about wrestling as much as I can...Gotch, Rikidozan,hogan, Flair, El Santo, Austin, etc...finally diving into British wrestling. Big Daddy. Cant wait to see this!!!
About 10 years before this, John Quinn was headlining at Madison Square Garden and other big US arenas against Bruno Sammartino as Virgil "Kentucky" Butcher.
I went on holiday to Barry Island in 1979 and in those days there was not a TV in your your chalet, and had to go to the TV lounge and for this fight it was jammed packed. Proper wrestling good old days
Oh yes, I remember that!. He said that this was what he was going to do to Big Daddy. I've got to hand it to the Crabtree family, their promotion of John Quinn as a wrestling 'heel' was outstanding.
Top showmanship.seemed to so real when we were kids .Note the people kissing shirley Crabtree as he makes his way to the ring such was he loved by the crowd
To put into context. Mighty John Quinn is around as big as Goldberg and Brock Lesnar in their Prime. The third body slam from Big Daddy launched mighty John across the ring. That's what Big Daddy could do to them. Big Daddy was a true powerhouse. What are specimen Big Daddy was. He doesn't get enough respect in my opinion. Strength and power and what he was able to do. You don't see many wrestlers launching someone over 300 pounds with a body slam across the ring these days...
Big daddy was an awful wrestler. The match was short because daddy was too out of shape to go any longer. Similar size to bam bam Bigelow. The difference in ability is staggering between the two.
@@tonyclifton2230 you gotta remember though Big Daddy was made by the people. His gimmicks was popular. And if they wasn't or he wasn't popular then he probably would've become an heel and might have had seen more. But Big Daddy was an out and out Strong Man. He had a 64 inch chest. And he easily used to power slam wrestling that was similar size or even bigger than him. Is having physical strength not a skill?
@@tonyclifton2230 you gotta remember though Big Daddy was made by the people. His gimmicks was popular. And if they wasn't or he wasn't popular then he probably would've become an heel and might have had seen more. But Big Daddy was an out and out Strong Man. He had a 64 inch chest, that's same as Eddie Hall. And he easily used to power slam wrestling that was similar size or even bigger than him. And his back body drops was real it had to be real because wrestlers, the likes of Kamala and others wasn't athletic enough to give him a hand, so he pretty much had to lift them up on his back. Is having physical strength not a skill?
It was short because promoter Max Crabtree wanted it to be short. Daddy could wrestle longer and better than this- see his late 77 match with John Elijah-; but Max wanted him to either have quick wins like this or tag in at the end to save the day in tag matches and never be seen as vulnerable, just 100% strong all the time.
I loved watch the Saturday afternoon wrestling on TV. It was all scripted, as it is now over here & in America but it was great fun. The characters; Billy Two Rivers, Crybaby Jim Brakes etc. My favourite was Les Kellett.
If i remember correctly this was shown on cup final day 1979. As an 11 year old boy Big Daddy warmed my heart that day (and then Alan Sunderland went and broke it in the last minute of the cup final lol)
It’s hard to believe now, but this fight was front page news in the tabloids for the full week before it happened! But I guess reality shows do the same thing these days. As a 7 year old, saw it as a massive event.
ah, "Big John Quinn" was a wrestling giant in Western Canada for Stu Hart's Stampede Wrestling in the early to mid 70's. he was our North American Champion a few times.
I remember watching this when it took place,TV back then in my opinion was far more enjoyable and families use to spend more time together watching great events like this
@@andrewh5457 pallo and mcmannus did genuinely dislike each other though. They'd wrestle to a predetermined finish, but slip in some real stuff on the way there
Genial lucha libre clásica de los años 70 tas. Y igual fue la mejor época de el mítico andré. El gigante y muchos más geniales todos como los de este video fueron y son geniales y una gran historia de la lucha libre todos ellos por siempre andré el gigante amigo. Saludos desde chile un fans de la lucha libre mundial.
I was lucky enough to see all the stars of British wrestling live and WWE stars live and also met lots after the events. British wrestling though was the diamond as far as I'm concerned. Great characters. Shirley crabtrees brother being plonked by GH too.
That was an unusual finisher for Daddy, it seemed almost to be a backdrop driver, I only remember him using that a few times. Usually against the "smaller" big men like Quinn, Scrubber Daley and a few others
Yes back in those days there were more people who thought it was real, but now days everyone knows it's choreographed before hand, the Americans took it a step further and introduced far more drama into it, some of it was quite amusing, check out US wrestler the king Jerry Lawler on you tube. Probably the most impressive heavyweight wrestler I saw was in the 60's he was a Canadian wrestler called George's Gordienko, he was surprisingly quick for a man of his size.
Basically, the guys who were fit enough to actually do the flip and take the bump but still big enough to be the "giant of the week" for a Big Daddy match.
This match had a huge build-up with Quinn getting a huge heel push and squashing mid-carders. His best moment was wen he took a teddy bear from a kid in the crowd and ripped it to pieces. It was probably a plant but my god it got heat. And Crabtree was a much better wrestler than he is generally given credit for. There was more to him than a belly splash.
People ask why it finished so early, my guess is Big Daddy did not have the conditioning to go much further. Quinn was brilliant at promoting this fight but the truth is he was one helluva wrestler and the longer this went on, the more difficult it becomes to make the agreed moves look tidy and natural for BD. Simply put, by the time BD had lifted the very compliant and helpful Quinn 3 times, he was getting exhausted. They agreed it had to end there or it would be too difficult to act on convincingly.
It finished quick because Max Crabtree wanted Big Daddy to be an invincible juggernaut who just ran over all opponents. Big Daddy could wrestle longer and better than this if he was allowed to- check out his match with John Elijah in late 1977. It was Max who insisted he only wrestle squashes or tag in at the end of tag matches and stay 100% strong.
Shirley hit my farther in law in a fight and knocked him out with one punch my farther in law said he had never been hit so hard and he was one tough dude
Talk shit about Big Daddy all you want but he was mega over with not just the crowds but mainstream public as well. So much so he is still fondly remembered today by English people. You can know all the wrestling moves in the book but that alone won't get you a legacy.
Big daddy was very enterteing i mean he wasn't young he was fat but damn that strenght was impressive and that charisma his match with haystack was like andre the giant vs hulk hogan both match weren't good if we are talking about sport side but they both had great vibe
Unfortunately I always believed that until yesterday when a fight popped on my recommended list and Big Daddy actually lost it literally destroyed my memories of being a kid I used to think he was unbeatable.
im flicking through these world of sport wrestling days trying to find my grandad Peter Jay the referee, most of them have Peter Szackas in, if you know any that he is in a link would be very greatful, thanks
The biggest problem I had with big daddy was that he was the promoters brother and thus he would always be the main event and would always go over. If you think Hogan was bad at not wanting to job; big daddy was worse. BUT he did give us Steve Regal, so he's ok.
Lol. You can see Quinn cooperating with Crabtree in the crotch holds. You can just imagine these two working out the "fight" moves in a gym somewhere. What I like about it most though is Charterhouse educated Kent Walton taking it all dead seriously. Wonderful nonsense.
Someone told me when Big Daddy aka Shirley Crabtree ko The Mighty John Quinn that Quinn was out for the count for about 20 mins is that correct would like to know please
I don't know about 20 minutes, but he was on the floor for quite a while. You do know it wasn't real, though? Note that when Big Daddy did his trademark belly crashes on top of an opponent, he always dropped on to his knees, so his opponents didn't get the full force of the impact.
Saw Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks, Mighty John Quinn, Pat Roach, Jackie Pallo and more twice at Royal Albert Hall late 70's..People complaining here just don't get it, it was hilarious, yes it was staged but you saw all ages enjoying it because it was mainly slapstick violence. Like British Pantomime, some people just don't get it! Glued to it Saturday afternoons at my Nan's.. WWE is just as staged, fake tan and bottle blonds.. Leave our Shirley alone! Lol thanks for the memories! After this, my next favourite was SUMO!!!
People can call this crap all they want, but back in the day this was all we had. Just look at the crowd reaction. Whatever happened to wrestling in the future, Big Daddy was the biggest star in the country bar none.
It would be if Leeds Utd fans weren't a gang of cunts, every time they come down to Sheffield to face Wednesday there's bother between them and local fans.
We were very proud of him in Halifax he was born In girlington Bradford but family moved to Halifax when he was a young boy according to his cousin Betty who is in her 80s she has family resemblance
I would have liked to have seen a genuine mma contest between ving tsun grandmaster Victor Khan and Big Daddy, apparently in real life Big Daddy knew all the moves, this would have been better than Mohammed Ali vs Bruce Lee as suggested on some other web listing!
Before he was blacklisted Crabtree was a fast and agile middleweight heel and yes he did know his stuff, but also was arrogant and no one wanted to work with him so he couldn't get booked for most of the 60s and in the interim got huge and slow but was able to turn face (or blue eye)
Obviously matches are fixed but sometimes its more obvious than others the build up was hyped to death cos of Quinn bad mouthing the UK Daddy ALWAYS comes along and does his splash then its lights out for his opponent. No wonder wrestling got taken off the TV by the mid 80s it had turned into a joke. Mostly cos of Big Daddy.
They built this up for weeks and it lasted less than two minutes. As much as the grannies and the kids loved him, Big Daddy and the Crabtrees killed the Golden Goose that was a massive TV crowd puller.
Even by the standards of wrestling - this was a disgrace. The Mighty John Quinn, young, fit and a great wrestler. And Big Daddy, a big fat useless lump who couldnt wrestle his way out of a paper bag. What a fit up. A mate of mine went to see this and still moans about what a waste of money it was.
Big Daddy makes Andre look like Rey Mysterio Jr. 😅 But hey, he was on TV when there was like 4 channels and people didn't know any better, so they remember him with affection, despite being probably the worst top wrestler in any country of all time. *awaits irrational hate replies from Brits* 😉
Christ...Big Daddy reminds me of the Blob from X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Just needed some CGI wacky ring ropes and opponents flying 20 feet straight up.
@@13thcentury Yes,Max Crabtree and Brian Crabtree. To be fair I only first went in London to a Wrestling Bill over 60 years ago , so,obviously,still learning. I used to see The Rock's Grandfather:Peter Maivia fight at Bermondsey Baths,South East London.
@kanenkitten Agree with the Hulk comparison. Again, the Hulk could wrestle some great matches but too many others were just gimmick exhibitions. It sells a load of shirts to kids and I understand the value of having 'stars' instead of wrestlers, but I'm just not interested in them if they can't do the business in the ring.
John Quinn getting his butt kicked by Big Daddy and looking hot! John Quinn is just a piece of meat in this match. John is unable to up a fight! Pure slave-meat for Big Daddy! Who am I kidding, why would Big Daddy make a slave out of John Quinn when he can make a meal out of him!
I'm not sure which is worse, really. Pretend wrestling by flabby middle-aged men, as they used to show on ITV's World of Sport, or pretend wrestling by steroid grunts, as on WWE. This bout was choreographed, like nearly all TV wrestling was and is. "Big Daddy" was a character created by the Crabtree family to create a job for Shirley, the ex-guardsman who had been unemployed for decades. It was part of Quinn's contract that he was to make speeches to make himself into a hate figure for the British public, which would ultimately culminate in them selling a lot of tickets for a 'grudge match' against Big Daddy at Wembley Arena. It was stage managed all the way.
Wrestling is known to have been "worked" going back to the 1840s at least. There were no more than about half a dozen "flabby middle aged men" The rest were mostly very fit agile technical wrestlers, many of them lighter weights who could perform the most fantastic scientific boutrs. You can still watch that kind of wrestling live in 2018 if you known where to look.
@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 Dead right, the likes of Marty Jones & Fit Finlay were real hard bastards. Fights might have been staged but the blokes doing it were class athletes, no doubt about it.
@@vordman > real hard bastards or more to the point they were skilled legit catch as catch can wrestlers who drew on their skills to put on a show. Few if any American wrestlers can legitimately play the sport they purport to be competing in.
Who is here june 2024 😂, brings back memories of being at my grandma's on a Saturday dinner time.
Hahahahahaha I remember this ,I was 19 years old at the time ,I am 64 years old now.
Every time I hear the Mighty Quinn record, I always think back to wrestling, happy times.
@@TheBlueOwl21 absolutely ( you ain't see nothing like the mighty Quinn) hahahahahaha I am 64 now and can still remember
Same! Followed by the football results - my grandad sat with his pools coupon on a clipboard, and woe betide anyone who dared speak while the scores were read out 😂
😀😀 watched the early 80's shows as a kid, am now 50 years old.
Used to have fish 'n' chips in newspaper on a Saturday watching this, great memories, proper entertainment 💓
your comment makes me wish I was British.
They need to make a movie about the Mighty John Quinn. He wrestled with all the legends, Bret hart, Davie Boy smith, Andrey the giant, you name it. He was North American Champion for 6 years in the 70's. I was lucky enough to be in his daughters grad class, so for the one year we had a wrestling team in a small town in BC he volunteered as asst. coach for my wrestling team. It was a pleasure to learn from him and hear his stories....Thanks John...
How I remember this long awaited showdown. It's short but dramatic. A real highlight from the good old days of World of Sport.
The memories. I grew up with all this. It's great to see it all again.
True British nostalgia. Sad in 2024 this is only a memory of how great this country used to be. 😢
oh here we go.
@@anthonymcken6050 modern soy boys have no concept of the past
Ah yes, truly great we were in 1979. Food shortages, oil shortages, the winter of discontent, Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Tredget, food inflation at 10%, endless IRA bombings, which of those do you miss most?
@@VelvetMetrolinkWhereas nowadays we have riots, homeless, knife crime, drugs galore, online trolls, more mental health problems than ever... yes, we've certainly come a long way...
Ive study and watch and learn about wrestling as much as I can...Gotch, Rikidozan,hogan, Flair, El Santo, Austin, etc...finally diving into British wrestling. Big Daddy. Cant wait to see this!!!
About 10 years before this, John Quinn was headlining at Madison Square Garden and other big US arenas against Bruno Sammartino as Virgil "Kentucky" Butcher.
They need to make a movie about this man
I know there's a stage play about him.
They really do. It's an amazing story
Yes, a movie about Mighty Mouth Quinn would be brill!
Back in the day watching wrestling at gran and grandads brilliant
I loved watching big daddy on a Saturday afternoon. Big fan of his
a british wrestling legend, before we had satellite tv
I was at Wembley for this bout, It was a great evening!
It was hyped up enough to make a spread in the TV Times.
I loved it in the 70's and i still love it - Acting at its best - Come on Big Daddy. haha
Proper wrestling. My goodness brings back so many great childhood memories ❤
PROPER WRESTLING WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU SMOKING
I went on holiday to Barry Island in 1979 and in those days there was not a TV in your your chalet, and had to go to the TV lounge and for this fight it was jammed packed. Proper wrestling good old days
I remember in the build-up to this Quinn taking a teddy bear from a kid at ringside and ripping it to pieces. Now that's evil for you!
Oh yes, I remember that!. He said that this was what he was going to do to Big Daddy. I've got to hand it to the Crabtree family, their promotion of John Quinn as a wrestling 'heel' was outstanding.
And they say that only the Americans can create hype
LOL!!! Mega-Evil! That must have really got the crowd in a frenzy. 😆
I miss those Saturday afternoons . World of sport wrestling and then the football results and Doctor who on BBC 1
Top showmanship.seemed to so real when we were kids .Note the people kissing shirley Crabtree as he makes his way to the ring such was he loved by the crowd
Those were the days of British Wrestling!
Actually... any pre Daddy was peak era.
To put into context. Mighty John Quinn is around as big as Goldberg and Brock Lesnar in their Prime. The third body slam from Big Daddy launched mighty John across the ring. That's what Big Daddy could do to them. Big Daddy was a true powerhouse. What are specimen Big Daddy was. He doesn't get enough respect in my opinion. Strength and power and what he was able to do.
You don't see many wrestlers launching someone over 300 pounds with a body slam across the ring these days...
Big daddy was an awful wrestler. The match was short because daddy was too out of shape to go any longer. Similar size to bam bam Bigelow. The difference in ability is staggering between the two.
@@tonyclifton2230 you gotta remember though Big Daddy was made by the people. His gimmicks was popular. And if they wasn't or he wasn't popular then he probably would've become an heel and might have had seen more.
But Big Daddy was an out and out Strong Man. He had a 64 inch chest. And he easily used to power slam wrestling that was similar size or even bigger than him. Is having physical strength not a skill?
@@tonyclifton2230 you gotta remember though Big Daddy was made by the people. His gimmicks was popular. And if they wasn't or he wasn't popular then he probably would've become an heel and might have had seen more.
But Big Daddy was an out and out Strong Man. He had a 64 inch chest, that's same as Eddie Hall. And he easily used to power slam wrestling that was similar size or even bigger than him.
And his back body drops was real it had to be real because wrestlers, the likes of Kamala and others wasn't athletic enough to give him a hand, so he pretty much had to lift them up on his back. Is having physical strength not a skill?
It's all an act, he was just a hopeless lump, power my a*se
It was short because promoter Max Crabtree wanted it to be short. Daddy could wrestle longer and better than this- see his late 77 match with John Elijah-; but Max wanted him to either have quick wins like this or tag in at the end to save the day in tag matches and never be seen as vulnerable, just 100% strong all the time.
Such great fun, all stage managed but wonderful entertainment
I loved watch the Saturday afternoon wrestling on TV. It was all scripted, as it is now over here & in America but it was great fun. The characters; Billy Two Rivers, Crybaby Jim Brakes etc. My favourite was Les Kellett.
I saw this at the time wonderful memories 😊😊😊
If i remember correctly this was shown on cup final day 1979. As an 11 year old boy Big Daddy warmed my heart that day (and then Alan Sunderland went and broke it in the last minute of the cup final lol)
I think you are correct; in fact I came here looking for corroboration. Thanks
Ironic as 10 years later I am watching Chelsea break Arsenal's hearts again :)
It’s hard to believe now, but this fight was front page news in the tabloids for the full week before it happened! But I guess reality shows do the same thing these days. As a 7 year old, saw it as a massive event.
Born in 1930, Daddy was 49 years old here. Look how he moves! Not many can do that at his age.
Or size
Keanu reeves is 55 brad pitt is 56 tom cruise is 57
He moves good for a middle aged overweight man
@@Stantheman848 Tom Cruise is a Jerk I don't like him at all
hes 49 not 89
ah, "Big John Quinn" was a wrestling giant in Western Canada for Stu Hart's Stampede Wrestling in the early to mid 70's. he was our North American Champion a few times.
don't mess with big daddy
I remember watching this when it took place,TV back then in my opinion was far more enjoyable and families use to spend more time together watching great events like this
I expect when it was over they sat down and had a few beers together 😂😂
Few dozen! XD
Remember good to watch Jackie Pallow v Les Kellet in Torquay in the 70s, they were indeed having a drink together afterwards in the bar.
@@andrewh5457 pallo and mcmannus did genuinely dislike each other though. They'd wrestle to a predetermined finish, but slip in some real stuff on the way there
Genial lucha libre clásica de los años 70 tas. Y igual fue la mejor época de el mítico andré. El gigante y muchos más geniales todos como los de este video fueron y son geniales y una gran historia de la lucha libre todos ellos por siempre andré el gigante amigo. Saludos desde chile un fans de la lucha libre mundial.
The Mighty John Quinn - now he was a REAL strongman...
I remember when he came to stroud in Gloucestershire in my local leisure centre in the 70s.
I was lucky enough to see all the stars of British wrestling live and WWE stars live and also met lots after the events. British wrestling though was the diamond as far as I'm concerned. Great characters. Shirley crabtrees brother being plonked by GH too.
Always remember this one
That was an unusual finisher for Daddy, it seemed almost to be a backdrop driver, I only remember him using that a few times. Usually against the "smaller" big men like Quinn, Scrubber Daley and a few others
Yes back in those days there were more people who thought it was real, but now days everyone knows it's choreographed before hand, the Americans took it a step further and introduced far more drama into it, some of it was quite amusing, check out US wrestler the king Jerry Lawler on you tube. Probably the most impressive heavyweight wrestler I saw was in the 60's he was a Canadian wrestler called George's Gordienko, he was surprisingly quick for a man of his size.
I've never seen the move since. Someone should resurrect it.
Basically, the guys who were fit enough to actually do the flip and take the bump but still big enough to be the "giant of the week" for a Big Daddy match.
@johneastwood3039 It's the old "I'm to old and fat to pull off the move... oh, who cares"
This match had a huge build-up with Quinn getting a huge heel push and squashing mid-carders. His best moment was wen he took a teddy bear from a kid in the crowd and ripped it to pieces. It was probably a plant but my god it got heat. And Crabtree was a much better wrestler than he is generally given credit for. There was more to him than a belly splash.
Oh yes it was massive at the time. Big Daddy's win even made front page news in the papers it was that big!
+The Boogie Knight It was in the Financial Times on the Monday which was a bit different for the FT
Yes, but I would be disappointed if I'd paid good money for such a short match
Giant haystacks was a gentleman out of the ring. Lovely man
Shirley Crabtree ran the franchise so it's not a surprise he always won.
People ask why it finished so early, my guess is Big Daddy did not have the conditioning to go much further. Quinn was brilliant at promoting this fight but the truth is he was one helluva wrestler and the longer this went on, the more difficult it becomes to make the agreed moves look tidy and natural for BD.
Simply put, by the time BD had lifted the very compliant and helpful Quinn 3 times, he was getting exhausted. They agreed it had to end there or it would be too difficult to act on convincingly.
It finished quick because Max Crabtree wanted Big Daddy to be an invincible juggernaut who just ran over all opponents. Big Daddy could wrestle longer and better than this if he was allowed to- check out his match with John Elijah in late 1977. It was Max who insisted he only wrestle squashes or tag in at the end of tag matches and stay 100% strong.
Or did it end that fast due to BD landing on quins head BDs leg gives way so full weight lands on Quins head
Big Daddy at his finest!
Exactly. 😅
Hahahahahaha i was 19 at the time 64 years old now, and sill going strong, fun times
Shirley hit my farther in law in a fight and knocked him out with one punch my farther in law said he had never been hit so hard and he was one tough dude
Talk shit about Big Daddy all you want but he was mega over with not just the crowds but mainstream public as well. So much so he is still fondly remembered today by English people. You can know all the wrestling moves in the book but that alone won't get you a legacy.
That's right. Still remembered with fondness in 2022. Easy! Easy!
EEEasy EEEasy EEEsay Big DADDy was the bestthanks for posting.
USA had Hulk Hogan, we had Big Daddy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Big daddy was very enterteing i mean he wasn't young he was fat but damn that strenght was impressive and that charisma his match with haystack was like andre the giant vs hulk hogan both match weren't good if we are talking about sport side but they both had great vibe
What was Alan Partridge doing in the background at 2:40?
It looks like Vladimir Putin
The finisher was a very low quality backdrop?
When was the last time you saw a back body drop finish a match? Also, I think it was Big Daddy landing on his face that knocked him out cold!
Probably the best Wrestler the World has seen,never lost a bout...RIP
Unfortunately I always believed that until yesterday when a fight popped on my recommended list and Big Daddy actually lost it literally destroyed my memories of being a kid I used to think he was unbeatable.
the best wrestler that could do nothing but smash people with his giant gut. ok
So would you be if your brother was the promoter
Back in the days when the crowd thought it was all real. Real or not, it's still better to see this than three judges modern crap on the tv nowadays
They knew it wasn't real in 1958, at least. Listen to Hancock's Half Hour episode, The Grappling Game
For those going on about how 'unfit' the likes of Big Daddy were... could YOU lift and slam Mighty John Quinn?!
Exactly
Wonderful memories
this is a legendary fupa that big father has
Should been main event at Wrestlemania
Who else saw Alan Partridge in big daddy's corner!
Knowing me knowing you
im flicking through these world of sport wrestling days trying to find my grandad Peter Jay the referee, most of them have Peter Szackas in, if you know any that he is in a link would be very greatful, thanks
The biggest problem I had with big daddy was that he was the promoters brother and thus he would always be the main event and would always go over.
If you think Hogan was bad at not wanting to job; big daddy was worse.
BUT he did give us Steve Regal, so he's ok.
He was so over the promoter would have been beyond stupid to have him lose.
There’s a reason why you don’t make your most over talent lose lmao
Big Daddy was a bad guy originally. He used to Tag with Haystacks
Memorys with my parents on Saturday afternoon
plural of memory is memories not memorys.
That must have been the easiest pay packet Quinn ever "earned"
It’s good fun. Entertaining and endearing. Cheer the hero and boo the villain. I wish things were still like this. It’s just a big, muddy mess now.
Lol. You can see Quinn cooperating with Crabtree in the crotch holds. You can just imagine these two working out the "fight" moves in a gym somewhere. What I like about it most though is Charterhouse educated Kent Walton taking it all dead seriously. Wonderful nonsense.
Someone told me when Big Daddy aka Shirley Crabtree ko The Mighty John Quinn that Quinn was out for the count for about 20 mins is that correct would like to know please
I don't know about 20 minutes, but he was on the floor for quite a while. You do know it wasn't real, though? Note that when Big Daddy did his trademark belly crashes on top of an opponent, he always dropped on to his knees, so his opponents didn't get the full force of the impact.
I saw big daddy a few months after the big daddy v John quinn match asked big daddy how long John quinn was knocked out for he said about 3 minutes
Cor Blimey! Wot a frilling display of manly Bri'ish prowess!
Fantastic times
Big Daddy and Haystacks were the final nail in the coffin of British Wrestling on TV.
Saw Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks, Mighty John Quinn, Pat Roach, Jackie Pallo and more twice at Royal Albert Hall late 70's..People complaining here just don't get it, it was hilarious, yes it was staged but you saw all ages enjoying it because it was mainly slapstick violence. Like British Pantomime, some people just don't get it! Glued to it Saturday afternoons at my Nan's.. WWE is just as staged, fake tan and bottle blonds.. Leave our Shirley alone! Lol thanks for the memories! After this, my next favourite was SUMO!!!
I remember an old Wrestling World cover with Shirley Crabtree on it from around 1962 :)
How can you not love Big Daddy!
Very easily..he was awful
The great Shirley Crabtree😃
People can call this crap all they want, but back in the day this was all we had. Just look at the crowd reaction. Whatever happened to wrestling in the future, Big Daddy was the biggest star in the country bar none.
Far from it. British wrestling was brilliant. Very well skilled.
Big daddy and his brother killed british wrestling.
Big Daddy has a lot of intestinal fortitude.
emphasis on intestinal , Man he had a gut!🤣
massive burp tank under fat / muscle : 100% male !
They put today's wrestlers to shame great tv
Pride of West Yorkshire best county in uk
It would be if Leeds Utd fans weren't a gang of cunts, every time they come down to Sheffield to face Wednesday there's bother between them and local fans.
@@richallenxbox1976 Never mind mate, it looks like those days are over.
We were very proud of him in Halifax he was born In girlington Bradford but family moved to Halifax when he was a young boy according to his cousin Betty who is in her 80s she has family resemblance
Love it
Lovely to see Max Crabtree thumped.
Brian Crabtree not Max
Great stuff...but weren't we easily pleased...
I would have liked to have seen a genuine mma contest between ving tsun grandmaster Victor Khan and Big Daddy, apparently in real life Big Daddy knew all the moves, this would have been better than Mohammed Ali vs Bruce Lee as suggested on some other web listing!
Before he was blacklisted Crabtree was a fast and agile middleweight heel and yes he did know his stuff, but also was arrogant and no one wanted to work with him so he couldn't get booked for most of the 60s and in the interim got huge and slow but was able to turn face (or blue eye)
Interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is that little town in B.C Hope? My Dad lives there and was telling me about him. We are gonna meet him next week. Flying in from Ontario.
Obviously matches are fixed but sometimes its more obvious than others the build up was hyped to death cos of Quinn bad mouthing the UK Daddy ALWAYS comes along and does his splash then its lights out for his opponent. No wonder wrestling got taken off the TV by the mid 80s it had turned into a joke. Mostly cos of Big Daddy.
Gary Owens
They built this up for weeks and it lasted less than two minutes. As much as the grannies and the kids loved him, Big Daddy and the Crabtrees killed the Golden Goose that was a massive TV crowd puller.
Big daddy WAS a Crabtree, Shirley , yes, Shirley Crabtree.
@@thewomble1509 We will not be, we will not be jobbed
We will not be, we will not be jobbed
Just because my brother is the booker
I won't do the job.
Please teach someone Big Daddy entrance music
It was a cover version of "We Shall Not Be Moved" by The Titanic Survivors.
Even by the standards of wrestling - this was a disgrace. The Mighty John Quinn, young, fit and a great wrestler. And Big Daddy, a big fat useless lump who couldnt wrestle his way out of a paper bag. What a fit up. A mate of mine went to see this and still moans about what a waste of money it was.
It was business and they got your mate to part with his cash to see it :)
Big Daddy makes Andre look like Rey Mysterio Jr. 😅 But hey, he was on TV when there was like 4 channels and people didn't know any better, so they remember him with affection, despite being probably the worst top wrestler in any country of all time. *awaits irrational hate replies from Brits* 😉
3 channels in 1979 @@timviper8649
Watching this makes me think the world is coming to the end
Now that's a wrestling audience.
big daddy belongs to the world of darts
Yank wrestling fan, here. Can someone recommend a match from this era that would be somewhat more 'catch-as-catch-can?
Look for some Johnny Saint matches
Any matches involving Mark Rocco, Fit Finlay, Marty Jones and Dynamite Kid. Also Jones Vs a young Owen Hart
Daddy messed that one up. The finisher was terrible. Could have actually hurt Quinn.
It takes many hours of rehearsal to get this right hats off to all this team
Did Big Daddy ever lose? Legit question
lost twice to Kendo on TV
Christ...Big Daddy reminds me of the Blob from X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Just needed some CGI wacky ring ropes and opponents flying 20 feet straight up.
how on earth this guy ever got over is beyond me...
got over what?
His brother was the promoter
@@IsleofskyeSeriously? I guess you are not familiar with wrestling terms.
@@13thcentury Yes,Max Crabtree and Brian Crabtree.
To be fair I only first went in London to a Wrestling Bill over 60 years ago , so,obviously,still learning.
I used to see The Rock's Grandfather:Peter Maivia fight at Bermondsey Baths,South East London.
@kanenkitten Agree with the Hulk comparison. Again, the Hulk could wrestle some great matches but too many others were just gimmick exhibitions. It sells a load of shirts to kids and I understand the value of having 'stars' instead of wrestlers, but I'm just not interested in them if they can't do the business in the ring.
What was that theme Big Daddy used here? lol
We shall not be moved big daddy's theme
You'd have thought the match would have lasted longer than that. The crowd ain't exactly getting their moneys worth.
I feared the worst when I saw the length of the video and that included the introductions:)
Big Daddy is my favorite my Nick name is also Big Daddy from my Boxing 🥊
John Quinn getting his butt kicked by Big Daddy and looking hot! John Quinn is just a piece of meat in this match. John is unable to up a fight! Pure slave-meat for Big Daddy! Who am I kidding, why would Big Daddy make a slave out of John Quinn when he can make a meal out of him!
John Quinn spent a lot of time in stu harts stempede wrestling
I'm not sure which is worse, really. Pretend wrestling by flabby middle-aged men, as they used to show on ITV's World of Sport, or pretend wrestling by steroid grunts, as on WWE. This bout was choreographed, like nearly all TV wrestling was and is. "Big Daddy" was a character created by the Crabtree family to create a job for Shirley, the ex-guardsman who had been unemployed for decades.
It was part of Quinn's contract that he was to make speeches to make himself into a hate figure for the British public, which would ultimately culminate in them selling a lot of tickets for a 'grudge match' against Big Daddy at Wembley Arena. It was stage managed all the way.
yeah i was 13 but i remember the Quinn hate :p, all laughable now looking back in my late 40s.
Thanks captain obvious.... are you going to tell me Batman is not a real person next?
Wrestling is known to have been "worked" going back to the 1840s at least.
There were no more than about half a dozen "flabby middle aged men" The rest were mostly very fit agile technical wrestlers, many of them lighter weights who could perform the most fantastic scientific boutrs. You can still watch that kind of wrestling live in 2018 if you known where to look.
@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 Dead right, the likes of Marty Jones & Fit Finlay were real hard bastards. Fights might have been staged but the blokes doing it were class athletes, no doubt about it.
@@vordman > real hard bastards
or more to the point they were skilled legit catch as catch can wrestlers who drew on their skills to put on a show. Few if any American wrestlers can legitimately play the sport they purport to be competing in.
Everyone love him
Biggest put up job ever if crabtree went to usa he wouldnt have lasted 5 minutes barrel of crap
This shit is hilarious