I love the precision with which Tristan works. Iron Man goes from being on his toes to seeking comfort and understanding just a little bit better what life is all about. Kudos to the owner for recognizing when to ask for help and for being prepared to be shown on film doing it🤗💝
Phenomenal! Tristan, clear, logical, sound and progressive techniques with an obvious change. You are a Blessing to horses and horse people in the whole world !!!
Nice work, small step by small step. One thing that must be realized in animal husbandry...in a breeding program you get what you select for. Many people select strictly for physical ability & conformation and forget about temperment, thinking that you just need to find a magical system or person to transform the horse. Temperment *has* to be one of the criteria in any thoughtful breeding program.
Absolutely, in my breeding criteria! Intelligence & easy going, good minded temperament but sadly in the “ competition world” horses are bred for speed, flash looks, particular way of moving, height, for fad/fashionable breeding ( rufe in the WB world)….. not to produce an all round package that will give 95% of ( non elite GP/Olympic) riders a great time with their horse at lower levels of competition.
Great video. Superb horse. Love the way T goes back to beginning. Horses mature at such different rates whether they’ve had the time put in or not. But he’s sweet natured, intelligent and wants to please. Amazing movement. What potential! With time he could be an incredible dressage horse. Comments on his neck shape- come on, for a horse who’s done very little, he’s in amazing shape! It’ll come! Owner- sounds nervous but she’s talking to a trainer and on video. I’d sound nervous too but wouldn’t be nervous around horses normally. Crikey, sooo much judgement in many of the other replies!
Poor girl Looks on the verge of tears, I’m sure she done the best she knew how to. At least now she has the best of help and I’m sure what she and we watching will learn will stand us all in good stead going forward ❤ I wish her all the luck in the world xx
I'm super relaxed after watching that too. What an amazing process. Beautiful animal and care for his speed of learning and emotional comfort. The way this guy talks about horses makes them sound very human in his eyes.
All horses are different, just a round pen won't fix everything. This method and soft join up helped my crazy warmblood mare tremendously, every being should be treated as an individual. We aren't all the same.
I have a 1 year old that I take small amount of time "training" with everyday. it is really just me handling her asking small things and then building on that. I love ,Love keeping in my mind "teach my Filly the tools to cope" thank you so much! I will keep watching and listening to you.
It is so refreshing to see someone like yourself without all the various sticks with rags and flags but with just a long line and schooling whip. None of the pushing and shoving, hauling the head around etc. and the one size fits all mentality. I was always taught to weigh up the horse you are working with first by touching and talking to it before beginning training and to respect that every horse is an individual in its own skin, so you work to the individual's needs.
Fascinating how his eyes went sleepy at a point, just like the 'vertical' mare and I'm sure as I watch more, I'll see it in all the horses under your tutelage.
Lovely young gelding. Wondering how much turnout the horses in the fancy barns actually get? That's a big, powerful boy with tons of energy to burn off. Horses need to be allowed to simply be a horse... in a pasture with his buddies every day, for their mental health & happiness. Thank you for being a kind, new generation (horse centric) Trainer! I've always been about communication, partnership & mutual respect between horse & rider/owner & only 100% positive training!
I wish I had Iron Man dilemma. Oh! what a beauty. He really what's go go with that energy. What a power house, bet he could jump one. Great work guys...
I agree with everything you said Megan Van Vleck. I think a ton of groundwork is so important simply because horses don't see with their eyes the way we do. Gaining their trust on the ground is the most important thing you can do for your horse. This guy seems to skip a lot of groundwork and actually the horse looks confused and tense.
Actually, this IS ground work. But he introduces things and then lets the horse think about what happened, then introduces it again, and is prompt with the (very subtle and quick) follow through so the horse starts to get it. Plus, the horse did not get bored and fall asleep; it kept the horse thinking about what was being asked. A very perceptive trainer.
That horse is a big baby. Not judging. Just his face at the end. Really intriguing about how the horses learn to.be in their body. Interesting too he makes is clear in a nice way that his owner has work to do as well.
5:37 ; "He can kick when he gets insecure" and the camera quietly moves to BESIDE the horse vs sort of behind the horse. Haha. Smart camera operator. ;)
I have a spoky mare and a gelding that is bit picky listening i absolutly love these. Im going to take so much back to my horses so excited to see how they and i do together as a team
I love watching great training videos. Hate all the bashing comments below, though. If you made a positive comment about training, I applaud you. If you had to make ugly judgemental comment about owner when she is just trying to do her best, you are way worse off because you need to go get some basic groundwork yourself & relearn some manners & how to treat other people.
'.......when she is just trying to do her best,..........'-------------The horse doesn't care about that. The horse cares about what one does. If one does good, the horse does good. If one does bad, the horse does bad. The horse is a reflection of the person.
@@theat6291 Yes. Horse people need to clearly understand the horse language (body language). And learn to effectively communicate with the horse. Most horse people are clueless.
But this owner is making the effort to become “ less clueless”, & that’s the point if the original poster ehen she said the owner is “ doing her best”. When she does things differently with this horse as a result of her learning, then the horse will know thst she “ does care” about he feels. How did you come by your “ knowledge & wisdom” around horses? Did you just “ know all” somewhat magically or did you make mistakes & learned from rhem? Or grew up in the constant presence of some horseman who showed you “ how” or letyou watch him work with horses which allowed you perhaps somewhat Unconsciously, learn “ by watching”? Many horse people like this owner, are on a journey learning about horses; a lufelong journey because every horse is ani dividual….
@@gerrycoleman7290 true, however she is someone who wants to learn and understand better how to work with him. You cannot condemn someone for something they were never taught in the first place?
Enjoyed this episode. I have a 11 years old mare that is the same...have worked with her for over a year and had 10 short rides on her until a lightning storm put her back to square one and more spooky and insecure than she was before...will remember this episode when I start over with her in the Spring. Thank you
What comes to my mind is that he must have been kept in a stall, a lot, that can dumb down a young horse. It is like keeping a human child in a box, taking him out for a bit everyday, putting him back, and then expecting the child to be knowledgeable about life, his life, and be as mentally mature as another less confined child would be. We dumb down horses, than expect them to grow mentally...
VeganMarcella andMore: How do you know he has been stabled a lot? We don't know from this video. He is a young, green horse who needs more schooling. I'm guessing other than "My Little Pony" you do not own a horse. What do you mean "we dumb down horses"????????????? LMAO
amazing how quick they learn huh! Im gonna try this groundwork with my horse, who does move away when I try to mount even though Im always gentle and always use a mounting block... teaching her to park in and present the saddle sounds like a rgreat thing
It is significant the horse had no external cause for the explosion. As an inexperienced horse, or even a more highly trained one, he is forced behind the bit and crammed into a frame he can't handle. Whether this gentleman can make him calmer or not, the solution is a better dressage trainer who works with classical principles.
I'm a believer in no riding until they are 7 years old . Their bodies are not done growing in turn it hurts . If you wait the extra couple years in the beginning you get it back in the end 10 fold . My opinion
Watch closely(closer!) he conducts a week's worth of work in the first 30 seconds of contact... Sometimes these trainers forget how much they know and do!
Your timing is pretty impeccable! Very logical process. I see a lot of moments where the horse would like to connect with you. Have you tried responding to that during training at the moments of rest and if that changes the results?
This horse is not explosive. This is a green horse, with no groundwork and no desensitizing work/training...He didn’t just spook and take off cantering out of nowhere, for no reason...anyone with even just a small amount of correct knowledge and understanding of a horse/horsemanship could have called what caused the horse to spook 3:05 minutes into this video. He did not just “take off” for zero apparent reason...he was spooked when the person standing in the center of the arena caught his eye... I can bet that every time he so called randomly “explodes” it is a similar situation. Ground work and desensitizing a horse to as many things as you can from the ground , earning the respect and trust of the horse before ever getting on their back is much easier for the horse and rider. This is how some horses get a bad rep, being called crazy/explosive/aggressive/ etc... when the problem is far from what the rider and a lot of the times from what a trainer who has no clue, or sadly has a clue and just wants your money says the problem is. One it is NEVER the horses fault. Two it is 9 times out of 10 rider/trainer (lack of training or desensitizing) at fault when something happens. Pressure and release. Timing of the release. Clear direction of what you are asking of the horse and releasing when the horse gives you the right answer. Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing difficult/more work...
Ouch, why would you be doing dressage on such a green horse, let 'em just be a horse for a while! People are WAY TOO keen to get on a horse early. This trainer was really calm and good. The horse was much more relaxed by the end. Anytime I see videos (usually a plump middle aged woman) wielding a "carrot stick" and saying they're an expert, I roll my eyes.
3:20 When you ride your horse in that head position (behind the vertical) the horse is partly blinded to anything in front of them. And he spooked, the minute the person standing there, to him, suddenly came into his field of vision. I see so many people saying horses are spooky, but have no idea how the eyes of the horse work. They just assume that there are only 2 small blindspots, directly in front and behind the horse. A horse have a side view, which is especially built for them grazing, and it is only really effective, when the horse can lift and move its head, to take a better look. Turning to see with both eyes, or moving their head to get a sharper picture. When you ride a horse behind the vertical, or in other ways, restrict their head and therefore their eyesight, you might end up with horses that spook, as things seem to suddenly appear, because they didn't get to see it, before it was in a distance, which is to close for comfort, and they therefore will react, putting distance between themselves and that, or throw themselves sideways, or sling their head up, all to see if they are in any danger. Especially if they don't have a trusting relationship with you, and therefore reading and trusting your energy, instead of vision.
Please tell your videographer to export your audio in Mono. The stereo sound on TH-cam is really distracting having half the audio in one ear and half in the other. Very weird.
Rare person in english tight pants who think like a horse :) i like it. Usually i met english riders whose are too much focus on sport than on mental balance of their horses Work on issues of horse manners.... Nono... That what,, low,, rider do. Im a GP rider i dont have to... :D hahaha Thanks for this video a working horses good way :)
Wonderful to watch. A couple of things, Tristan, that is a very tall horse. I’m downright impressed you can get up on his back without assistance. Who says white guys can’t jump? Secondly, my god, what a beautiful horse. What do you call his color? Golden chestnut (that’s what I would call it)? He’s stunning.
I'm not familiar with this trainer's method, so I won't comment on the assessment. But this beautiful horse deserves better than this owner, so it's good she's going to sell him. (Note she doesn't have time for her horses -- plural. Not just Iron Man.) Right away the trainer notices quite a bit of scar tissue on the horse's neck. WTH? Why wasn't that pursued and explained? Scar tissue means some sort of trauma, that may or may not have been treated. Quite a lot of scar tissue suggests not, because if it had been sutured there would have been a detectable line where the sutures were, not a mass of scar tissue. Maybe they come back to that at the end of the video; I haven't quite finished it yet.
Exactly what I was thinking. Get this horse outside with some buddies. Let him actually be a horse! Get him off grains and THEN start looking at training..
Surely he has turnout time next to or with other horses. This variable wasn’t really discussed by the owner, so could be an issue. Also, like Rosy Rosy pointed out... some horses do get a bit crazy mentally & hot on grain & also not enough turnout time. He could also have pulled or misaligned something in his neck or back from bucking, playing, rolling. Hope they figure it out. Sometimes it takes quite a bit of guesswork & trying a few things to get the answer. He seems like a bold busy horse. He may just need more everyday riding, too.
Wow.. So nice.. Its all good by training.. Trt method.. I really want to learn this method.. But unfortunately I have no horse.. But l want to learn training skills
A lot of people think just because they throw a saddle on and put a bridle on, that the horse is immediately trained. They didn't have the horse's respect, he needs a lot ground of work. He needs to be desensitized. When she said "She want to sell him" that felt like a real punch in the stomach to me. No matter what horse you get, all horses need to be trained with proper ground work. Move their feet forwards back left and right on the ground before you start doing this in the saddle.
Why? She said its not her horse. And she is being responsible really; the horse has an undesirable behaviour/reaction and she is getting help before selling it.
I would, as well as agree with everyone else (who is experienced) suggest that he may have a pinched nerve since he bolted on a circle. Of course horses new in training , tend to blot and when they start to canter. Cant do it in a trot.
He could easily do this stretch and, hind leg, work under-saddle. So lower and lenght'n as he bends to each circle. It looked as if he was ridden with heavy hands, just prior to bolting. Would love to know what he's doing now.
Power to the problem for this horse is that his heels have been trimmed out. This is very uncomfortable as everything is being pulled down and under. Look at understanding the heel but just video on TH-cam.
There's a horse that would benefit from more turnout. He's still learning to balance himself but is underdeveloped in the neck and so he panics occasionally.
Baloney about the neck. He is young, has not been ridden very much and needs long and low riding to find his balance and build his strength. But yes, on the turnout probably.
I don't like the excuse I don't have the time, If you didn't have the time don't have the animal. My horse came from people who did not have the time, Becuase they did not work with him he came with all sorts of bad habits that could lead to health problems.
Especially from a foal! Smh...😒 How much you want to bet his groundwork was rushed or non-existent? He doesn't even understand pressure. I don't know how people think it's ok to ride a horse without an established leadership bond and basic understanding of pressure and release. That's how you end up hurt or killed...so damn ignorant.
If he was a nice riding horse, she would make the time. I think she's scared. You can tell he's unsure just standing next to someone on the ground. He needs some work, but he has such great potential to be a nice horse! My first horse was a 6 year old stud who was never worked with (not even brushed)...it took me 4.5 hours to catch him for a week, and 2 hours the week afterwards. That horse was such a sweet boy and met me at the pasture gate when we'd formed a bond. He taught me so much! If you stick with the 'difficult' ones they whole heatedly offer you so much. Nothing has changed since, I trained all kinds of horses with different issues and when they see you as a leader who will take care of them, they are such a pleasure to be around. My personal mare is both a saddle horse and a driving horse. She lays down to be mounted and moves great off leg pressure. She's beginning to ride with no tack at all. In the end though, if this woman doesn't want to work with him, good for her for getting him the training that will help find him a home to be a loved horse someone will make the time for him. Still a happy ending.
@@renewyourmind1815 I would love to meet your girl when I got my horse people said it was dangerous and to not ride it 2 weeks after creating a bond he was so calm and now loves to be ridin bareback
My mare did a lot of what this horse is doing. She would always try her best but it’s like a flick of a switch, like in that ladies video they have gone into flight mode and it’s as though they are in a trans and then a few minutes later they are back to sort of normal.I got a vet to look at her and she was actually diagnosed with horners syndrome
Not always. While I prefer the term backed, a lot use the term broken in, but it doesnt mean the horse had its spirit broken :/ We have come a long way from throwing a saddle and cowboy on and letting them bronc around.
A lot of people do not know the terms “backed” ( English/European terminology) or “ started” (American trrminology), but most people comprehend what “ broken in” means in my country Australia, at least, and NO it does not imply a broken spirited horse that has been roughly treated or buckjumped until it gived in and tolerates a saddle or human on it’s back. The transitioning of a horse from being unridden to being trained to be ridden has long moved on for majority of trainers, but the term “ broken in” lingers. That’s all. The majority of trainers I know, do not want the horse to buck with just a saddle or a rider on it’s back!
Umm.. do you work with people by chance? 🤔I definitely need this type of training! lol My therapist is pretty good, but results in an hour would be great! 🤣
*If you don’t have enough time for your horse, then you need to give your horse to someone else who has enough time, so that you have enough time for all of them!*
Denell L. Bennett Survivor/Warrior: Did you not watch the same video as me? It' not her horse, it's her boyriends. As soon as the horse is sorted it will be sold. At the moment she feels it cannot be sold until it's had more schooling. Which she is getting professional help with. So what is your problem? Maybe she should forget about wasting time and money on trying to sort this horse and send it for meat. Problem solved.
@@madelynpulley957 I think I just figured it out, I've had issues with some clips no audio on various videos. Maybe they are putting the videos up in stereo, and your system isn't picking up both sides. So yes, if that's the case, changing your system may help.
No wonder they act like they do - being stalled in a closed in stall with no ventilation. Why do you do this? Horses need fresh air and room to move .... ): A solid walled stall is inhumane ....
I hear the owner in the background laughing like "oh how cute!" They are not cute! They are not puppies! They are highly intelligent animals with a highly developed nervous system! And Women, they are not the answer to your problems in life!
This gelding is not flexing well. Rushed under saddle training. Too little ground work training. Look at the Handy Horseman. Clinton Anderson, John O'Leary, Pat Parelli, Why working/mounting from nearside not both sides?
I personally think this horse would benefit from a WHOLE LOT more ground work and practice with sensitizing and de sensitizing...the horse seems a little pushy and too flighty a round pen and intense lunging should help him settle in and learn to use the thinking side of his brain...a horse should not even be introduced the idea of being ridden until he has mastered the thinking side of his brain from the ground and learn that humans, equipment and touch are not going to hurt him but guide him to making the best decisions....this is from my own personal experience
“He doesn’t have an active thinking part to his brain….. because he hasn’t practiced it”. Horse relies on instinct or familiarity ….. this is so true of so many horses. Lots of small sessions etc Tristan nailed the essential root cause of this horse’s issue.
But I don’t agree with the concept of intense lungeing particularly…. Somany horses & their lungers switch off doing circles in a round yard. However how you lunge & what you ask the horse to do whilst lungeing ( change pace, change direction etc) may be useful. I lunged my youngster in an arena & used the whole space , sometimes taking him off the circle & moving him to another oart of the arena walking or jogging parallel with him on a straight line before going back on a circle. He stayed connected ( eye & ear) on the long line whilst on the straight. But I knew my guy from birth & he grew up in paddocks with other horses & had time & routine handling before started at 4 YO. He grew up bold & was a thinker, although a little cheeky at times, he never resented behavioural correction and always listened & trusted humans in moments of doubt or anxiety that arose in relation to new situations or tasks. Takes a lot to raise a foal or teach a green horse.
Agree with you Pamela about lunging. If you are doing more than five consecutive circles without changing something you are doing it wrong. Straight lines to turns are a good way to get away from it too. The only time I lunge a horse without doing that is when turning them loose to run is prohibited (other riders, obstructions in the arena) or when the horse really needs to just run a little due to inability outside of lunging. For instance, I have a pleasure horse I work with that most days, I could do some ground work and get on and have a productive ride. However, some days the footing sucks in turnout, or they weren't turned out due to severe weather. On those days I warm her up doing various groundwork exercises and then turn her loose on the end of a lunge line and let her run. Biggest circles we can manage, meaning arena wall to arena wall on the short side and about halfway down the long side of a relatively large indoor. Not ideal but I do what I can with what I have to work with since it isn't my barn or my horse!
It's never the horse, it's the human who push and push and can't or will not respect the horse (as an individuel) Young horses don't understand there body's well, do groundwork first, you learn the horse and the horse learns you and his body better. The old fashion way, ride forward, let the horse surch his balance instead of push him in a frame.
'large explosion' He does not have a fair trusted leader. One that can move his feet, change his direction and pace. If you are going to work with him you must fairly establish yourself as the leader in his mind. Then you can make progress. You are forgetting that once you step into that arena with him, you become another horse. He will test you to see whether you are higher or lower in status. Don't be lower. Do join up and follow through in the round pen to begin setting your leadership position in his mind.
Oh… so I’m guessing you learned some or a lot of your horse knowledge from Monty Roberts? Connection with the horse is essential I agree but Most people especially in the UK are unfamiliar with round pen American methods and need a teacher to learn how to use a round pen as a training tool. Horses have become connected or joined up with their humans for centuries without use of a round pen. It’s not the only way; just saying….
@@pamelahay6242 The round pen is one way to establish leadership. There are many others. Ways that result in moving the horse's feet, change in direction, change in pace with proper timing rhythm and feel with show one's high status.
Any way that turns the horse completely loose is always a good way to start. Give the horse total freedom to make decisions and show them that communication comes from paying attention.
@@jmwhorsemanship The horse must know that it is the human that is causing him to move his feet, NOT his decision. That communicates in his mind that the human is the fair leader. Very important. Same as how two horses interact.
Yes, I’m familiar with the Dorrance Brothers “feel approach” to horses & have attended a Ray Hunt 4 day Starting Clinic. Moving the horse’s feet engaged their brain, enhances connection & builds relationship when done by a trainer ( or owner) who can maintain their own focus & feel and can recognise changes in the horse’s emotions and attitude. 🙂
So basically she wants all the groundwork (hardwork) done for her so she can just jump on & go & everything will be perfect.The poor horse doesn't know what she wants him to do because ...she hasn't got the time, what a crock of bs. :(
sandra britton bashing makes you a HumanMEAN instead of Humankind. We don’t know this lady. Sadly, most of us do have to work for a living. If she is managing a riding stable, that’s lot’s of exhausting work & long hours. I wouldn’t be so quick to judge.
, oh so you know her personally, her life in detail.. wow... perhaps she is mature enough to admit she needs help that perhaps, like you she doenst know everything
Georgous horse !... Was he a race horse ?.. Go ahead and sell him. He is to much for you. Eventers..please buy this Georgous boy. I already own an OTTB like this.
This horse has pain issues,A fact,and if u take him to a good chiropractor, he be a new horse ,, all This is doing is teaching him to cope with pain and to stay calm about it ,,y not sort the pain first and the rest will Come naturally, ,,Check out Ed Coroters on TH-cam, ,
So what happens if this horse gets injured and needs stall rest? You don't think he should maybe learn some emotional fitness so he could deal with that situation without reinjuring himself?
My gelding is both better and worse than this horse. He's not nearly as skittish, but when he bolts, it's a true 0-60 bolt. Edit: Been two years. Still isn’t rideable. In the mean time I trained a chestnut pony mare.
I love the precision with which Tristan works. Iron Man goes from being on his toes to seeking comfort and understanding just a little bit better what life is all about. Kudos to the owner for recognizing when to ask for help and for being prepared to be shown on film doing it🤗💝
Phenomenal! Tristan, clear, logical, sound and progressive techniques with an obvious change. You are a Blessing to horses and horse people in the whole world !!!
Not just for horses, but the technique for many animals unsure of themselves.
No wonder horses are used in therapy for people who are
" dysfunctional" They are the teachers. I'm hooked after 2 videos.
Sx🎉
Nice work, small step by small step.
One thing that must be realized in animal husbandry...in a breeding program you get what you select for. Many people select strictly for physical ability & conformation and forget about temperment, thinking that you just need to find a magical system or person to transform the horse. Temperment *has* to be one of the criteria in any thoughtful breeding program.
Absolutely, in my breeding criteria! Intelligence & easy going, good minded temperament but sadly in the “ competition world” horses are bred for speed, flash looks, particular way of moving, height, for fad/fashionable breeding ( rufe in the WB world)….. not to produce an all round package that will give 95% of ( non elite GP/Olympic) riders a great time with their horse at lower levels of competition.
Amen!
Love how you are so patient with horses and your way of training is amazing. thanks for your videos
Another extraordinary display of mutual understanding and harmony 👏🏻
Nice, the expression in his eyes and his face became much softer towards the end:-).
Great video. Superb horse. Love the way T goes back to beginning. Horses mature at such different rates whether they’ve had the time put in or not. But he’s sweet natured, intelligent and wants to please. Amazing movement. What potential! With time he could be an incredible dressage horse. Comments on his neck shape- come on, for a horse who’s done very little, he’s in amazing shape! It’ll come! Owner- sounds nervous but she’s talking to a trainer and on video. I’d sound nervous too but wouldn’t be nervous around horses normally. Crikey, sooo much judgement in many of the other replies!
Poor girl
Looks on the verge of tears, I’m
sure she done the best she knew how to. At least now she has the best of help and I’m sure what she and we watching will learn will stand us all in good stead going forward ❤ I wish her all the luck in the world xx
I'm super relaxed after watching that too. What an amazing process. Beautiful animal and care for his speed of learning and emotional comfort. The way this guy talks about horses makes them sound very human in his eyes.
I absolutely love the Jefferey's method. It is probably one of the best ways to calm down nervous horses.
Good Australian approach to yoing horse handling.
All horses are different, just a round pen won't fix everything. This method and soft join up helped my crazy warmblood mare tremendously, every being should be treated as an individual. We aren't all the same.
I have a 1 year old that I take small amount of time "training" with everyday. it is really just me handling her asking small things and then building on that. I love ,Love keeping in my mind "teach my Filly the tools to cope" thank you so much! I will keep watching and listening to you.
It is so refreshing to see someone like yourself without all the various sticks with rags and flags but with just a long line and schooling whip. None of the pushing and shoving, hauling the head around etc. and the one size fits all mentality. I was always taught to weigh up the horse you are working with first by touching and talking to it before beginning training and to respect that every horse is an individual in its own skin, so you work to the individual's needs.
Fascinating how his eyes went sleepy at a point, just like the 'vertical' mare and I'm sure as I watch more, I'll see it in all the horses under your tutelage.
What a gorgeous horse!! And lovely work!
I love how you help Iron Man to trust and think. I am here to learn more so I can guide my reactive young horse better. Thank you.🐴
Lovely young gelding. Wondering how much turnout the horses in the fancy barns actually get? That's a big, powerful boy with tons of energy to burn off. Horses need to be allowed to simply be a horse... in a pasture with his buddies every day, for their mental health & happiness. Thank you for being a kind, new generation (horse centric) Trainer! I've always been about communication, partnership & mutual respect between horse & rider/owner & only 100% positive training!
Really depends on the owners and what is scheduled, I believe, as far as turnout times.
Great explanation Tristan, good energy flowing and calm. I look forward to more videos. Thanks!!
I wish I had Iron Man dilemma. Oh! what a beauty. He really what's go go with that energy. What a power house, bet he could jump one. Great work guys...
Tristan did great 👍 I'm very proud of him❤. Great job tKory...as usual. Have a blessed day 😇
So impressed by your teaching ability with this young horse, thank you Tristan Auzzie boy
I agree with everything you said Megan Van Vleck. I think a ton of groundwork is so important simply because horses don't see with their eyes the way we do. Gaining their trust on the ground is the most important thing you can do for your horse. This guy seems to skip a lot of groundwork and actually the horse looks confused and tense.
I am a devoted believer in groundwork, groundwork, and when you think you're finished, do some more groundwork. I've never seen it fail to pay off.
Actually, this IS ground work. But he introduces things and then lets the horse think about what happened, then introduces it again, and is prompt with the (very subtle and quick) follow through so the horse starts to get it. Plus, the horse did not get bored and fall asleep; it kept the horse thinking about what was being asked. A very perceptive trainer.
That horse is a big baby. Not judging. Just his face at the end. Really intriguing about how the horses learn to.be in their body. Interesting too he makes is clear in a nice way that his owner has work to do as well.
This guy is amazing!
5:37 ; "He can kick when he gets insecure" and the camera quietly moves to BESIDE the horse vs sort of behind the horse. Haha. Smart camera operator. ;)
I have a spoky mare and a gelding that is bit picky listening i absolutly love these. Im going to take so much back to my horses so excited to see how they and i do together as a team
I love watching great training videos. Hate all the bashing comments below, though. If you made a positive comment about training, I applaud you. If you had to make ugly judgemental comment about owner when she is just trying to do her best, you are way worse off because you need to go get some basic groundwork yourself & relearn some manners & how to treat other people.
what about the horse? Don't you think we have to relearn horse "training" and how to treat those wonderful creatures?
'.......when she is just trying to do her best,..........'-------------The horse doesn't care about that. The horse cares about what one does. If one does good, the horse does good. If one does bad, the horse does bad. The horse is a reflection of the person.
@@theat6291 Yes. Horse people need to clearly understand the horse language (body language). And learn to effectively communicate with the horse. Most horse people are clueless.
But this owner is making the effort to become “ less clueless”, & that’s the point if the original poster ehen she said the owner is “ doing her best”. When she does things differently with this horse as a result of her learning, then the horse will know thst she “ does care” about he feels.
How did you come by your “ knowledge & wisdom” around horses? Did you just “ know all” somewhat magically or did you make mistakes & learned from rhem? Or grew up in the constant presence of some horseman who showed you “ how” or letyou watch him work with horses which allowed you perhaps somewhat
Unconsciously, learn “ by watching”? Many horse people like this owner, are on a journey learning about horses; a lufelong journey because every horse is ani dividual….
@@gerrycoleman7290 true, however she is someone who wants to learn and understand better how to work with him. You cannot condemn someone for something they were never taught in the first place?
It's the greatest gift for the horse.
What a sweet horse.
What a good man.
Enjoyed this episode. I have a 11 years old mare that is the same...have worked with her for over a year and had 10 short rides on her until a lightning storm put her back to square one and more spooky and insecure than she was before...will remember this episode when I start over with her in the Spring. Thank you
You are a fantastic horseman!!! So impressed!! ❤
What comes to my mind is that he must have been kept in a stall, a lot, that can dumb down a young horse. It is like keeping a human child in a box, taking him out for a bit everyday, putting him back, and then expecting the child to be knowledgeable about life, his life, and be as mentally mature as another less confined child would be. We dumb down horses, than expect them to grow mentally...
VeganMarcella andMore: How do you know he has been stabled a lot? We don't know from this video. He is a young, green horse who needs more schooling. I'm guessing other than "My Little Pony" you do not own a horse. What do you mean "we dumb down horses"????????????? LMAO
amazing how quick they learn huh! Im gonna try this groundwork with my horse, who does move away when I try to mount even though Im always gentle and always use a mounting block... teaching her to park in and present the saddle sounds like a rgreat thing
That was just beautiful to watch and listen to, I learned so much. Will watch again.
Can I ask how he got trimmed up so nicely, including a bang tail, if he is so spooky? 🤔 🤔
I would agree he is not explosive, his color is beautiful, just need some training, good to watch. None of us know it all.
It is significant the horse had no external cause for the explosion. As an inexperienced horse, or even a more highly trained one, he is forced behind the bit and crammed into a frame he can't handle. Whether this gentleman can make him calmer or not, the solution is a better dressage trainer who works with classical principles.
You nailed it friend. He's being forced into a frame he's not ready for. That,s why he's fearful.
I'm a believer in no riding until they are 7 years old . Their bodies are not done growing in turn it hurts . If you wait the extra couple years in the beginning you get it back in the end 10 fold . My opinion
Definitely agree, too much contact and not enough freedom. However, he also had tons of anxiety and tension on his body.
Totally agree. When i saw the rider, she did not seem that tidy herself but inflicting a frame on he he cant deal with
Love the way you train
Stuck in stalls! Enough said.
Watch closely(closer!) he conducts a week's worth of work in the first 30 seconds of contact...
Sometimes these trainers forget how much they know and do!
Very well done!
You can jump Tristan 😂 ❤
Brilliant thank you
Your timing is pretty impeccable! Very logical process. I see a lot of moments where the horse would like to connect with you. Have you tried responding to that during training at the moments of rest and if that changes the results?
This horse is not explosive. This is a green horse, with no groundwork and no desensitizing work/training...He didn’t just spook and take off cantering out of nowhere, for no reason...anyone with even just a small amount of correct knowledge and understanding of a horse/horsemanship could have called what caused the horse to spook 3:05 minutes into this video. He did not just “take off” for zero apparent reason...he was spooked when the person standing in the center of the arena caught his eye...
I can bet that every time he so called randomly “explodes” it is a similar situation.
Ground work and desensitizing a horse to as many things as you can from the ground , earning the respect and trust of the horse before ever getting on their back is much easier for the horse and rider.
This is how some horses get a bad rep, being called crazy/explosive/aggressive/ etc... when the problem is far from what the rider and a lot of the times from what a trainer who has no clue, or sadly has a clue and just wants your money says the problem is.
One it is NEVER the horses fault. Two it is 9 times out of 10 rider/trainer (lack of training or desensitizing) at fault when something happens.
Pressure and release. Timing of the release. Clear direction of what you are asking of the horse and releasing when the horse gives you the right answer. Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing difficult/more work...
You have eloquently written what my feelings were.
@@elizabethlambrecq9590 Thank you! I just felt that this video was poor information, as well as categorized the horse in a unfair way.
Exactly!
Rick will always be my favourite :)
Ouch, why would you be doing dressage on such a green horse, let 'em just be a horse for a while! People are WAY TOO keen to get on a horse early. This trainer was really calm and good. The horse was much more relaxed by the end. Anytime I see videos (usually a plump middle aged woman) wielding a "carrot stick" and saying they're an expert, I roll my eyes.
3:20 When you ride your horse in that head position (behind the vertical) the horse is partly blinded to anything in front of them. And he spooked, the minute the person standing there, to him, suddenly came into his field of vision.
I see so many people saying horses are spooky, but have no idea how the eyes of the horse work. They just assume that there are only 2 small blindspots, directly in front and behind the horse.
A horse have a side view, which is especially built for them grazing, and it is only really effective, when the horse can lift and move its head, to take a better look. Turning to see with both eyes, or moving their head to get a sharper picture.
When you ride a horse behind the vertical, or in other ways, restrict their head and therefore their eyesight, you might end up with horses that spook, as things seem to suddenly appear, because they didn't get to see it, before it was in a distance, which is to close for comfort, and they therefore will react, putting distance between themselves and that, or throw themselves sideways, or sling their head up, all to see if they are in any danger.
Especially if they don't have a trusting relationship with you, and therefore reading and trusting your energy, instead of vision.
Please tell your videographer to export your audio in Mono. The stereo sound on TH-cam is really distracting having half the audio in one ear and half in the other. Very weird.
Soy un admirador tuyo de Menorca . Porqué hay vídeos que no se pueden sub titular?
Gracias
Rare person in english tight pants who think like a horse :) i like it.
Usually i met english riders whose are too much focus on sport than on mental balance of their horses
Work on issues of horse manners.... Nono... That what,, low,, rider do. Im a GP rider i dont have to... :D hahaha
Thanks for this video a working horses good way :)
Wonderful to watch. A couple of things, Tristan, that is a very tall horse. I’m downright impressed you can get up on his back without assistance. Who says white guys can’t jump? Secondly, my god, what a beautiful horse. What do you call his color? Golden chestnut (that’s what I would call it)? He’s stunning.
I'm not familiar with this trainer's method, so I won't comment on the assessment. But this beautiful horse deserves better than this owner, so it's good she's going to sell him. (Note she doesn't have time for her horses -- plural. Not just Iron Man.) Right away the trainer notices quite a bit of scar tissue on the horse's neck. WTH? Why wasn't that pursued and explained? Scar tissue means some sort of trauma, that may or may not have been treated. Quite a lot of scar tissue suggests not, because if it had been sutured there would have been a detectable line where the sutures were, not a mass of scar tissue. Maybe they come back to that at the end of the video; I haven't quite finished it yet.
Its not a coach or trainers job to judge. They are there to educate. And videos get edited. For all we know it may have been discussed.
Perhaps he would be more relaxed if he wasn’t kept behind bars in a stable, isolated from other horses.
Exactly what I was thinking. Get this horse outside with some buddies. Let him actually be a horse! Get him off grains and THEN start looking at training..
Surely he has turnout time next to or with other horses. This variable wasn’t really discussed by the owner, so could be an issue. Also, like Rosy Rosy pointed out... some horses do get a bit crazy mentally & hot on grain & also not enough turnout time. He could also have pulled or misaligned something in his neck or back from bucking, playing, rolling. Hope they figure it out. Sometimes it takes quite a bit of guesswork & trying a few things to get the answer. He seems like a bold busy horse. He may just need more everyday riding, too.
That is one of many issues these people don't seem to understand.
Have you got a follow up video of Iron Man ? Such a sweet boy
Wow.. So nice.. Its all good by training.. Trt method.. I really want to learn this method.. But unfortunately I have no horse.. But l want to learn training skills
In other words, don't rush groundwork!
A lot of people think just because they throw a saddle on and put a bridle on, that the horse is immediately trained.
They didn't have the horse's respect, he needs a lot ground of work.
He needs to be desensitized.
When she said "She want to sell him" that felt like a real punch in the stomach to me.
No matter what horse you get, all horses need to be trained with proper ground work.
Move their feet forwards back left and right on the ground before you start doing this in the saddle.
I felt that too.
Why? She said its not her horse. And she is being responsible really; the horse has an undesirable behaviour/reaction and she is getting help before selling it.
Dream horse 😍
I would, as well as agree with everyone else (who is experienced) suggest that he may have a pinched nerve since he bolted on a circle.
Of course horses new in training , tend to blot and when they start to canter. Cant do it in a trot.
He could easily do this stretch and, hind leg, work under-saddle. So lower and lenght'n as he bends to each circle. It looked as if he was ridden with heavy hands, just prior to bolting. Would love to know what he's doing now.
What breed is Ironman? Can someone please tell me? Thank you.
How do rule out pain or physical issues on the first approach?
Power to the problem for this horse is that his heels have been trimmed out. This is very uncomfortable as everything is being pulled down and under. Look at understanding the heel but just video on TH-cam.
Very enjoyable.
Excellent!
There's a horse that would benefit from more turnout. He's still learning to balance himself but is underdeveloped in the neck and so he panics occasionally.
Baloney about the neck. He is young, has not been ridden very much and needs long and low riding to find his balance and build his strength. But yes, on the turnout probably.
@@kristinetrott5087 horses rely on a decent topline and neck development to control their speed and direction
Beautiful horse wrong owner ever heard that before!! 🤯🤯👏👏🇦🇺🇦🇺
I don't like the excuse I don't have the time, If you didn't have the time don't have the animal. My horse came from people who did not have the time, Becuase they did not work with him he came with all sorts of bad habits that could lead to health problems.
Especially from a foal! Smh...😒 How much you want to bet his groundwork was rushed or non-existent? He doesn't even understand pressure. I don't know how people think it's ok to ride a horse without an established leadership bond and basic understanding of pressure and release. That's how you end up hurt or killed...so damn ignorant.
If he was a nice riding horse, she would make the time. I think she's scared. You can tell he's unsure just standing next to someone on the ground. He needs some work, but he has such great potential to be a nice horse! My first horse was a 6 year old stud who was never worked with (not even brushed)...it took me 4.5 hours to catch him for a week, and 2 hours the week afterwards. That horse was such a sweet boy and met me at the pasture gate when we'd formed a bond.
He taught me so much! If you stick with the 'difficult' ones they whole heatedly offer you so much. Nothing has changed since, I trained all kinds of horses with different issues and when they see you as a leader who will take care of them, they are such a pleasure to be around. My personal mare is both a saddle horse and a driving horse. She lays down to be mounted and moves great off leg pressure. She's beginning to ride with no tack at all. In the end though, if this woman doesn't want to work with him, good for her for getting him the training that will help find him a home to be a loved horse someone will make the time for him. Still a happy ending.
@@Nicole-qc5dh I agree and it's not fair to the horse
@@renewyourmind1815 I would love to meet your girl when I got my horse people said it was dangerous and to not ride it 2 weeks after creating a bond he was so calm and now loves to be ridin bareback
@@leahboughan7016 & I your horse! It sounds like you've done a great job with him as well!
wish the sound came out of both sides of my speakers, but it only comes out the right side.
My mare did a lot of what this horse is doing. She would always try her best but it’s like a flick of a switch, like in that ladies video they have gone into flight mode and it’s as though they are in a trans and then a few minutes later they are back to sort of normal.I got a vet to look at her and she was actually diagnosed with horners syndrome
SUPER!
I would love to learn but the audio is so poor, I cannnot hear the instructor
Oh know I just heard the word "broken in" that means break the horses spirit.
Not always. While I prefer the term backed, a lot use the term broken in, but it doesnt mean the horse had its spirit broken :/ We have come a long way from throwing a saddle and cowboy on and letting them bronc around.
A lot of people do not know the terms “backed” ( English/European terminology) or “ started” (American trrminology), but most people comprehend what “ broken in” means in my country Australia, at least, and NO it does not imply a broken spirited horse that has been roughly treated or buckjumped until it gived in and tolerates a saddle or human on it’s back. The transitioning of a horse from being unridden to being trained to be ridden has long moved on for majority of trainers, but the term “ broken in” lingers. That’s all. The majority of trainers I know, do not want the horse to buck with just a saddle or a rider on it’s back!
Umm.. do you work with people by chance? 🤔I definitely need this type of training! lol
My therapist is pretty good, but results in an hour would be great! 🤣
there was a sound that spooked him.
very cool/ I have a mare very similar in her behavior.
*If you don’t have enough time for your horse, then you need to give your horse to someone else who has enough time, so that you have enough time for all of them!*
Denell L. Bennett Survivor/Warrior: Did you not watch the same video as me? It' not her horse, it's her boyriends. As soon as the horse is sorted it will be sold. At the moment she feels it cannot be sold until it's had more schooling. Which she is getting professional help with. So what is your problem? Maybe she should forget about wasting time and money on trying to sort this horse and send it for meat. Problem solved.
why can't i hear him talking at certain times during videos?
is it the video or a problem on my end?
@@madelynpulley957 I think I just figured it out, I've had issues with some clips no audio on various videos. Maybe they are putting the videos up in stereo, and your system isn't picking up both sides. So yes, if that's the case, changing your system may help.
Poor horses - no wonder they run off!
Watching this with headphones is a pain in the ass. Voices constantly only in one earpiece, for the rest great video
that was a beautiful horse , just waiting to be petted ,,
Haha, I need better self management too!
No wonder they act like they do - being stalled in a closed in stall with no ventilation. Why do you do this? Horses need fresh air and room to move .... ): A solid walled stall is inhumane ....
Horrible music! The horse is nervous and bored in the stall alone all day. You an see form his eyes he is very nervous.
I wouldn't mind having that trainer in my backyard , cute as ,,
😂😂
They breed them well in Australia lol
I hear the owner in the background laughing like "oh how cute!" They are not cute! They are not puppies! They are highly intelligent animals with a highly developed nervous system!
And Women, they are not the answer to your problems in life!
This gelding is not flexing well. Rushed under saddle training. Too little ground work training. Look at the Handy Horseman. Clinton Anderson, John O'Leary, Pat Parelli,
Why working/mounting from nearside not both sides?
Bottom line -- the horse is spoiled. He's locked up at the poll, too, which is the one place you want suppleness.
Broke in last Winter, late allready. 🤔🤨🤦🏼♀️
I personally think this horse would benefit from a WHOLE LOT more ground work and practice with sensitizing and de sensitizing...the horse seems a little pushy and too flighty a round pen and intense lunging should help him settle in and learn to use the thinking side of his brain...a horse should not even be introduced the idea of being ridden until he has mastered the thinking side of his brain from the ground and learn that humans, equipment and touch are not going to hurt him but guide him to making the best decisions....this is from my own personal experience
“He doesn’t have an active thinking part to his brain….. because he hasn’t practiced it”. Horse relies on instinct or familiarity ….. this is so true of so many horses. Lots of small sessions etc Tristan nailed the essential root cause of this horse’s issue.
But I don’t agree with the concept of intense lungeing particularly…. Somany horses & their lungers switch off doing circles in a round yard. However how you lunge & what you ask the horse to do whilst lungeing ( change pace, change direction etc) may be useful. I lunged my youngster in an arena & used the whole space , sometimes taking him off the circle & moving him to another oart of the arena walking or jogging parallel with him on a straight line before going back on a circle. He stayed connected ( eye & ear) on the long line whilst on the straight. But I knew my guy from birth & he grew up in paddocks with other horses & had time & routine handling before started at 4 YO. He grew up bold & was a thinker, although a little cheeky at times, he never resented behavioural correction and always listened & trusted humans in moments of doubt or anxiety that arose in relation to new situations or tasks. Takes a lot to raise a foal or teach a green horse.
Agree with you Pamela about lunging. If you are doing more than five consecutive circles without changing something you are doing it wrong. Straight lines to turns are a good way to get away from it too. The only time I lunge a horse without doing that is when turning them loose to run is prohibited (other riders, obstructions in the arena) or when the horse really needs to just run a little due to inability outside of lunging. For instance, I have a pleasure horse I work with that most days, I could do some ground work and get on and have a productive ride. However, some days the footing sucks in turnout, or they weren't turned out due to severe weather. On those days I warm her up doing various groundwork exercises and then turn her loose on the end of a lunge line and let her run. Biggest circles we can manage, meaning arena wall to arena wall on the short side and about halfway down the long side of a relatively large indoor. Not ideal but I do what I can with what I have to work with since it isn't my barn or my horse!
Sounds like what I’d do too if I lived in a climate/location subject to inclement weather or unsafe ground. 😊
It's never the horse, it's the human who push and push and can't or will not respect the horse (as an individuel) Young horses don't understand there body's well, do groundwork first, you learn the horse and the horse learns you and his body better.
The old fashion way, ride forward, let the horse surch his balance instead of push him in a frame.
She has no time for the horse.
She's the only problem.
'large explosion' He does not have a fair trusted leader. One that can move his feet, change his direction and pace. If you are going to work with him you must fairly establish yourself as the leader in his mind. Then you can make progress. You are forgetting that once you step into that arena with him, you become another horse. He will test you to see whether you are higher or lower in status. Don't be lower. Do join up and follow through in the round pen to begin setting your leadership position in his mind.
Oh… so I’m guessing you learned some or a lot of your horse knowledge from Monty Roberts?
Connection with the horse is essential I agree but Most people especially in the UK are unfamiliar with round pen American methods and need a teacher to learn how to use a round pen as a training tool. Horses have become connected or joined up with their humans for centuries without use of a round pen. It’s not the only way; just saying….
@@pamelahay6242 The round pen is one way to establish leadership. There are many others. Ways that result in moving the horse's feet, change in direction, change in pace with proper timing rhythm and feel with show one's high status.
Any way that turns the horse completely loose is always a good way to start. Give the horse total freedom to make decisions and show them that communication comes from paying attention.
@@jmwhorsemanship The horse must know that it is the human that is causing him to move his feet, NOT his decision. That communicates in his mind that the human is the fair leader. Very important. Same as how two horses interact.
Yes, I’m familiar with the Dorrance Brothers “feel approach” to horses & have attended a Ray Hunt 4 day Starting Clinic. Moving the horse’s feet engaged their brain, enhances connection & builds relationship when done by a trainer ( or owner) who can maintain their own focus & feel and can recognise changes in the horse’s emotions and attitude. 🙂
So basically she wants all the groundwork (hardwork) done for her so she can just jump on & go & everything will be perfect.The poor horse doesn't know what she wants him to do because ...she hasn't got the time, what a crock of bs. :(
sandra britton bashing makes you a HumanMEAN instead of Humankind. We don’t know this lady. Sadly, most of us do have to work for a living. If she is managing a riding stable, that’s lot’s of exhausting work & long hours. I wouldn’t be so quick to judge.
, oh so you know her personally, her life in detail.. wow... perhaps she is mature enough to admit she needs help that perhaps, like you she doenst know everything
@@melissapriddy3739 If one does not have the time, they have no business owning a horse. That is selfish. Horses deserve to be treated properly.
Sandra birtton: No. She wants help with a horse she has lost her nerve on who bolts. When the horse is sorted it will be sold. Stop trolling.
Georgous horse !... Was he a race horse ?.. Go ahead and sell him. He is to much for you. Eventers..please buy this Georgous boy. I already own an OTTB like this.
Horrible music
This horse has pain issues,A fact,and if u take him to a good chiropractor, he be a new horse ,, all This is doing is teaching him to cope with pain and to stay calm about it ,,y not sort the pain first and the rest will Come naturally, ,,Check out Ed Coroters on TH-cam, ,
So what happens if this horse gets injured and needs stall rest? You don't think he should maybe learn some emotional fitness so he could deal with that situation without reinjuring himself?
Hahaha 😂 funny man he is not sure what he is doing once horse come back home every thing will ☄ comes back 🔙
My gelding is both better and worse than this horse. He's not nearly as skittish, but when he bolts, it's a true 0-60 bolt.
Edit: Been two years. Still isn’t rideable. In the mean time I trained a chestnut pony mare.