true, my cars got a polyurethane "torque mount", new shift linkage rods, and probably the best thing was a adjustable clutch pedal stop, there was originally like 2-3cm of unnecessary throw when clutch is already disengaged, really helps with leg fatique and gives faster shifts
I did this exact thing and it worked pretty well. I made it a little bit too short of a shifter though I kinda had to put my body weight into it to get it in reverse lmao
The setup and feel of that shifter is a reflection of the times. At the time that transmission (A523/A568) was released, the Japanese were owning the mass market. Japanese carmakers were really hitting their stride and were seen as more "refined" - that meant only a light touch required to operate with the miminum of NVH transmitted back to the user - and that's what they were targeting with this design as the market was signalling with their wallets that's what they wanted. American cars were seen as rough and clunky in comparison. It was normal for the time and an improvement (if a bit rubbery-feeling) over the previous generation A520/A555. We hadn't yet experienced the "Fast and the Furious" era with all the absurdity that brought, which trickled into OEM designs. Like many things, it is a mistake to apply modern standards to things of the past and often change comes for the sake of change, not because it is better. I see you ran into the spline size change problem where they beefed up the input shaft part way through the run - major drag, wisdom of the ancients which is disappearing. The A555/A520 was best IMO - little more visceral and direct feeling, and the clutche had a better feel. There was something about the A523/A568 clutches that made it difficult to pull off smooth shifts consistently while booting around town.
It is a commuter car from the 80s. personally I can't see the appeal of the longer throw, but I do understand why Chrysler made it the way they did. I still find the shifter a million times better with my modifications for my use, though.
personally ive always hated short throws. love my 90s fwd gms 10 foot no feel throw. for a while ive been considering getting a short throw for my honda and cutting and rewelding it to make it a long throw
@@HatersGarage maybe im deranged but my favorite shifter ive ever used was in my buddys 90s wrangler. Something about having long and vauge shifts is way more fun to me, makes me feel like im in a 60s movie flooring it then having that breif pause with a huge motion between gears. I havnt messed with my honda other than welding up a taller shift knob out of a 1 7/8 tow ball so that it feels more like a truck
@@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast i just love long and vauge shifters, dont really like notchy shit. ive driven tons of cars with factory and aftermarket short shifters and it always makes me wish i was in my shitty 90s gm
This is like the NeoN short throw shifter. I have the Booger Bushings, never got around to getting the Short throw shifter because compared to my trucks... it was a short throw shifter 😂
the prothane shifter bushing work pretty good never had a issue with them falling off also some of the trans just feel like the shift softer 523 are pretty random, much prefer the 555
Have you tried reinstalling the transmission underneath your shifter as god intended? Cables are icky, unless it controls the throttle. Then it is obviously the only acceptable option...
My brother had a Yota 4y by with 250,000 miles on it and it was shifting like that Mack truck. He added a quart of Slick 50 for trannys and then it was like brand new. Ya, on my RC truck to add one thing, I usually have to change at least 3 others. How can a shiny, nickel plated screw just disappear off of the face of the earth when dropped on dark gray hardwood flooring? Poof! @#$%&!!
Short throw, replacement bushings and an upgraded transmission mount have always been my go-to mods for any car I buy. I've never been disappointed
Same. It doesn't take much to make it so much better
true, my cars got a polyurethane "torque mount", new shift linkage rods, and probably the best thing was a adjustable clutch pedal stop, there was originally like 2-3cm of unnecessary throw when clutch is already disengaged, really helps with leg fatique and gives faster shifts
I've never heard someone refer a sloppy shifter as mac n cheese and its mine now
This is true shitbox modification no money no shiny new parts just ingenuity and effort
Seems to be a theme for me, I feel like I can make stuff just as good making it myself (and have dough left over)
I did this exact thing and it worked pretty well. I made it a little bit too short of a shifter though I kinda had to put my body weight into it to get it in reverse lmao
Yep, like anything you can over do it lol
The setup and feel of that shifter is a reflection of the times. At the time that transmission (A523/A568) was released, the Japanese were owning the mass market. Japanese carmakers were really hitting their stride and were seen as more "refined" - that meant only a light touch required to operate with the miminum of NVH transmitted back to the user - and that's what they were targeting with this design as the market was signalling with their wallets that's what they wanted. American cars were seen as rough and clunky in comparison. It was normal for the time and an improvement (if a bit rubbery-feeling) over the previous generation A520/A555. We hadn't yet experienced the "Fast and the Furious" era with all the absurdity that brought, which trickled into OEM designs. Like many things, it is a mistake to apply modern standards to things of the past and often change comes for the sake of change, not because it is better.
I see you ran into the spline size change problem where they beefed up the input shaft part way through the run - major drag, wisdom of the ancients which is disappearing.
The A555/A520 was best IMO - little more visceral and direct feeling, and the clutche had a better feel. There was something about the A523/A568 clutches that made it difficult to pull off smooth shifts consistently while booting around town.
It is a commuter car from the 80s. personally I can't see the appeal of the longer throw, but I do understand why Chrysler made it the way they did. I still find the shifter a million times better with my modifications for my use, though.
I rarely use the bell icon, but I made sure to hit that shit for you. Content is short, sweet, funny as hell and to the point.
I entered the cheat code and the welding is already done. Thanks man!
I think I have watched that little "Chrysler board meeting" part at the beginning like... 50 times and and still laughing my ass off.
personally ive always hated short throws. love my 90s fwd gms 10 foot no feel throw. for a while ive been considering getting a short throw for my honda and cutting and rewelding it to make it a long throw
Long throw shifter in a Honda is a new one, lol. What exactly do you like about a long throw shifter?
Get a short throw kit and just extend the ever loving shit out of the shifter, best of both worlds
@@HatersGarage maybe im deranged but my favorite shifter ive ever used was in my buddys 90s wrangler. Something about having long and vauge shifts is way more fun to me, makes me feel like im in a 60s movie flooring it then having that breif pause with a huge motion between gears. I havnt messed with my honda other than welding up a taller shift knob out of a 1 7/8 tow ball so that it feels more like a truck
@@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast i just love long and vauge shifters, dont really like notchy shit. ive driven tons of cars with factory and aftermarket short shifters and it always makes me wish i was in my shitty 90s gm
Short throw is awesome in a little tiny car with close ratios, but pretty silly in a truck with truck gearing.
This is like the NeoN short throw shifter. I have the Booger Bushings, never got around to getting the Short throw shifter because compared to my trucks... it was a short throw shifter 😂
the prothane shifter bushing work pretty good never had a issue with them falling off also some of the trans just feel like the shift softer 523 are pretty random, much prefer the 555
I think the 555 uses shifting rods instead of cables so that makes sense
3:13 .... IT'S BEAUTIFUL!
Kudos for the Konami Code in your drawing, loved it!
up up, down down, etc...
love your content. it's so good
Have you tried reinstalling the transmission underneath your shifter as god intended? Cables are icky, unless it controls the throttle. Then it is obviously the only acceptable option...
I completely agree. You can get cable shifters surprisingly close, though.
encountering this on mine and this may be the solution i was looking for, thank you 🙌
Bro needs more like what y’all doin
I want to do this to my Cobalt now
My fiero has a long throw shifter. But it really needs it with the wires being so stiff
Leaving comment to boost interaction. Good video.
Found another channel to love again
Thank you ❤️
Your shifter looks alot like my srt4 shifter have looked into a srt4 shifter
I think the SRT shifter is similar, but the one I made is just as good. (and almost free)
These r great vudes
shifter
shifter
Please upload more.
Up,down,left,right up,down,left,right,ababababa start
Love the bloopers xD
Is that a GTA cheat code I see?
Mayhaps
mac & shift
Konami code
That shit looks awful. I love it.
My brother had a Yota 4y by with 250,000 miles on it and it was shifting like that Mack truck. He added a quart of Slick 50 for trannys and then it was like brand new.
Ya, on my RC truck to add one thing, I usually have to change at least 3 others.
How can a shiny, nickel plated screw just disappear off of the face of the earth when dropped on dark gray hardwood flooring? Poof! @#$%&!!