get rid of it, go back to the old system, and actually put the "student" back in student athlete. You would see the SEC fall off real quick if that was the case. Most of the schools in the SEC are trash institutions of higher learning. We have more prestigious community colleges in the north then some of those SEC schools. So sad.
1) your not allowed to enter the portal till after your sophomore season 2) you get one free transfer where you dont have to sit out a year, after your first you lose a year of eligibility no exceptions
The players should have the same amount of freedom as coaches do to change schools. Coaches don’t leave often because they have contracts that pay them well. It should be the same for the college minor leagues. Pay the kids; sign them to contracts, same as coaches. It’s time.
@@zesolodar why do you think restrictions are good? Kids will still transfer, just sit out and then sue the ncaa, if they are not paid employees it’s gross fans think they should be stuck
@@spaniardprince exactly people don’t like transfer portal, well great but they don’t get paid and so won’t be stuck at one school until the magic money cannon gives them a share like it should
Transfer portal should NOT be open until the season ends. If a student needs to transfer for extraordinary circumstances, then there is a process for that. The open transfer market happening ahead of the post-season completely destroys the Bowl season.
No doubt. But the problem with that is that if you wait until after the season then by the time the portal opens the next semester of school has already started.
Destroys the bowl season? Everybody good sits out the bowl season except for the top 4 teams. Bowls are just extra income for schools, just like the league championship. Better get used to it, the kids are in charge now after a century of being used and abused for no profit. Schools dont like it the kids will go elsewhere.
@@hubster4477lol if you think the "kids" are in charge you're delusional. The only ones that are in charge are the networks. Specifically ESPN and Fox. They're the only ones pouring billions of dollars into the college game. Follow the money 💰 💰💰
As a parent of 4.5 star Sr high school football player the current system is a nightmare. Between the extra covid years that are still working their way out of the system and the portal. It's is almost impossible to find a good spot and get your school covered.
i hope they take your ideas into consideration , its crazy how its usually some super simple stuff that the NCAA fails to incorporate into the system that they have in place that could make the System SOOO much better
I love the freedom that the players have right now. Coaches have promised kids positions amongst other things and just up and leave and take another job that benefits them. This has been going on since college football has started. It’s time to even the playing field
Facts now everybodys crying because the players are doing it. Coaches have never been 100% loyal to a program. Once a better opportunity presents itself, theyre up and gone. Why cant players do the same?
I get transferring down when you go to Oklahoma and realize you're not good enough to cut it, so you transfer to a lesser program for playing time. I agree with Klat here, because one of the biggest issues is transfers screwing new recruits. A guy gets recruited, then a transfer or graduate transfer who's slightly better because he already has 1-4 years of college experience screws the new recruited out of his job, forces him to transfer if he wants to play. The coaches are incentivized to play the more experienced player rather than develop a player because wins are the end all be all. Wins get you paid, wins open up opportunities at bigger programs, it's not at all about development of the players anymore, it's go to the portal and get the best predeveloped players. I think transfers need limitations. Coaches leaving should make you eligible for transferring, but the current state of the transfer portal is out of control.
@@DocNinini Coaches in the NFL and NBA have contracts like the coaches in the NCAA. The difference is pro players ALSO have contracts. You want the college players to have contacts too, and have to commit to a team for 3 years? Sounds good to me.
Joel has had beliefs and suggestions in the past that I still believe are true today. He is one smart dude!! He is right on the money with everything today.
I think it's a good idea. I would also, naturally, support a reciprocal scholarship commitment from the school. Otherwise, requiring a two-year commitment from the student-athlete in exchange for a one-year scholarship renewable at the discretion of the coach and program would be unreasonable.
Yeah but these kids have a dream it's not to sit behind two other kids, so schools can have a deep bench. Remember the clock is ticking once you go to the school.
If they set this up where players can collectively bargain, you'll have the women suing to get paid the same amount. Just like the US women's soccer team. There are going to be unintended consequences. The transfer portal and NIL were supposed to solve the supposed previous 'issues'. It turned into a nightmare almost immediately.
I think that plan from baker forces them to pay the women as much even if their sport brings in negative revenue. It’s a bid to save and expand Title IX.
I think that schools are going to eventually start structuring deals that have commitment clauses built-in. a player might be promised XL but it would be divvied out over the course of a certain number of seasons or they might have to pay it back if they transfer.
Limit the number of times a player can enter the portal during their career. If they leave when their coach leaves, they can play immediately at the new school, but if the coach who recruited them stays at the school they are leaving, they should have to sit out a year like Baker and Kyler and so many others did.
They need to go back to sitting a year with a transfer vs. immediate eligibility unless player is a grad transfer. Immediate eligibility was cool and all when no NIL but NIL has really changed the game.
College football, the game we love, is going down the drain. Fix it! Put guardrails/rules to govern the process. Way too many 3rd parties getting involved…. Just inviting corruption to the game.
@@mscooldeadly for who? They get one shot, I don’t care about your team or my team I care about options for kids, schools and coaches only care about themselves
First and most obvious is portal opening in December is insane. Move the date please, maybe February is ideal. Also, what it entails person is getting into very clear and transparent about what will or will not happen. I think too much movement of player will degrade skills, only should be allowed to move once, or a waiver for as stated unforeseen hardship or circumstance. Please do all those, portal mentally channels anxiety for coaches, players and family.
I have an idea on NIL rules that could also stabilize the portal chaos too. What if we treated NIL money like a business does vested retirement or bonus programs? The player gets a NIL trust and has access to 20% of the money after year 1, 35% after year 2, 50% after year 3 and 100% after year 4. That includes the requirement of playing in the bowls to fulfill the requirement. Obviously things like career ending injury can be factored in. Players would really have to have some major grievance that makes staying unbearable to walk away from a school knowing that a portion of that money is being left behind.
Why do you want to control the money given to a college athlete by a business or entity in exchange for advertising? That seems weird. They are young but they are not children.
3:25 : I don’t think this is a bad idea but putting “mental health” as a reason to make an exception for a transfer limit just opens the door for everyone using that as their reason
The portal should not be open until after all the bowl games have finished. The portal should close before high school students make decisions. Graduate students should get 1 "free" transfer during the portal period.
They might of had alot of player bsing a medical or hardship transfer to get one, so they made it universal. Also really puts pressure on coaches to be good and devlopmental for their players
I was a student trainer at FSU in the Deion days, so I saw this stuff . . .First, I would allow for transfers either up a "division" or down without penalty, but I would reinstate the "sit year" for same division transfers. Second, eliminate "grad transfer" . . . just encourages transfers down the depth chart. Third, and this is assuming you do not do #1 or #2, eliminate the "redshirt" rule which would limit players' value (gained over time) and move them into "professional" sports. By court precedent, you cannot limit NIL, so you have to limit the transfer "circus", or you are going to exasperate your best coaches.
1 transfer for a player's entire career, and when you transfer, you lose any NIL opportunities going forward if you already had one in place at the school you just left. Also, this crazy behind the scenes $5000+ just for a kid to come for a campus visit is loco. The schools need to adopt the UCR system that doctors must follow to bill for services...Usual & Customary Rates is a system that caps a doctors fee off at a certain point to keep them from price gauging. Travel fees, room, board etc, meals should be plenty, plus a meeting with whomever manages NIL, plus a $500 gift or something. But $5000 just to come for a visit? Loco. They can go visit 20 schools knowing they already know where they are going to go. They get the official visits and unofficial vists, yes, but no one knows of any other behind the scenes visits that are arranged. It could literally be the max for official, the max for unoffical, and then WHATEVER else that the player can swindle.
You mentioned it with the guys and the girls. How could you collectively bargain in a situation where Title IX is applicable> NIL works because it bypasses the remit of Title IX.
Apparently getting a free college education doesn't mean anything anymore? Why doesn't this play into all this? That's a HUGE benefit most people NEVER get. That should count for something. There should be NO NIL and only 1 transfer period.
What about adding a buyout clause to the commitment period? A player can leave before 2 years, if the collective or university is compensated. I would also consider extending the commitment period to 3 years (with an early buyout clause) since a lot of players don’t even contribute until their 3rd year. Also the commitment goes both ways, schools can’t just dump a player if he can’t play.
Nothing is wrong with the transfer portal. Head coaches are just mad now because they pretty much can’t control a player now . Before if your were in the dog house with a coach , they would just sit you and deny you playing time . Now a player can just say no playing time cool , I’ll go elsewhere. And they are mad at that . The only people mad at the transfer portal are people who don’t play currently, or that have never played college football!!!!!
Joel is right about things needing to tighten up. It can’t be the Wild West, otherwise CFB will be ruined. -Players can freely transfer once (excluding coach change/hardship…etc) -Transfer portal opens after team season over (including bowls if applicable), closes on March 1. HS signing deadline ends 30 days after portal closes to give incoming players a chance to see what the team will be. -If you are going to call it NIL and not just paychecks for players, money is capped and tied to fulfilling team obligations (playing full season or two), and also tied to actually using NIL to render services ,instead of it just being a payday. This keeps the players moving to the NFL and not sticking around, makes schools accountable for the money paid, and gives less affluent teams a chance to entice big players with NIL money.
Also, what about leveraging the NFL draft eligibility as an inflection point? That is, a player is committed to a college (save for a hardship waiver) for 3 years. At that time then they could declare for NFL, transfer or continue with the original committed school. The following year, if the player didn't transfer, then he would have the same options. Players would then need to factor in immediate term (NIL) and long term (development) concerns into the decision
As a former D1 athlete....I transferred and the only way I was able to play immediately was to transfer down to D2 or lower. This transfer portal free for all is RIDICULOUS!
Why is it ridiculous? The previous rule of only you being able to transfer and play for a D2 is ridiculous. Coaches woukd recruit players and transfer schools qll.the time, but nobody ever made a fuss about that.
An athlete should be allowed to transfer but he/she should either sit out a year and keep all his/her eligibility or lose a year if he/she wants to play right away. Grad students should be allowed to play immediately.
A player receiving NIL money should be required to play in bowl games if medically able. Opting out to prepare for the draft/NFL should be a violation of their NIL contract, and result in a monetary penalty. These players are de facto employees now, and should be treated as employees.
that’s not how NIL works or was intended to work haha. There’s a lot wrong with NIL but this isn’t really how this works id focus attention elsewhere when it comes to NIL.
When a student-athlete graduates with eligibility remaining, and wants to start a graduate program at another university, then I believe they should not be restricted by any prior undergraduate commitments. Graduate transfers are an asset to college sports. By definition, they have completed their undergraduate degrees and are pursuing a post-baccalaureate degree. I would allow their NCAA eligibility status to continue, as is, and without change.
Yeah, I don't see why Joel said that and why you would want to hurt the status of a graduate student. In a sense, it's not a 'transfer' as they have completed the scholarship requirements of their undergraduate tenure.
@@brob8204 Agree 100%. Transfer is a misnomer. Transfer implies a carrying over of something started elsewhere. Graduate programs are, with few exceptions, categorically distinct. It’s a subsequent enrollment at a different school, but not a transfer. IMO, graduate transfers should simply remain on the same 5 years to complete four seasons that, aside from Covid exemptions, exists now.
First, I don't think the courts are going to allow the NCAA to limit the transfers to 1 time, and as far as moving the portal window to protect the bowls, I dont think they can unless you reshape the season calendar. Transfers need to happen before the next semester. So my suggestion would be to alter the season to start August first. Play the conference championships Thanksgiving weekend. Play the playoffs the first 3 weeks of December and the Championship on Jan. 1. All players would be done by the next semester.
NIL should be available to the player throughout their time at the original school. But I guarantee if you took that money away if the player decided to transfer prior to their third year that would lower the numbers in the portal. However once eligible to go to the draft or stay for their senior season that NIL could kick back in. Of course there are certain hardships that allow the early transfer still
Payments to athletes should be a flat guarantee from a pool based on the revenue of the sport. Then, at the end of a player’s career, there should be arbitration that determines if they brought extra revenue they need to be compensated for. For example, Tim Tebow would have gotten the same flat fee as everyone else while playing. But after he moved on, Florida would owe him like a 40 million dollar check based on what he brought, determined by third party arbitration from a firm that specializes in determining this value.
I’m not sure if the 5 years senior thing is for anyone that’s graduated OR if it’s for student athletes that’s have spent a full 4 at one school and wish to go somewhere else. If it’s for anyone. Sure, get rid of it but if we are being honest who is goin pro and stayin in college 5 years? Covid years are an exemption obviously. There are some guys that benefit tremendously from that 5th year. For the few player that decide to do this and ACTUALLY have a school that’ll pick them up, I like it for them, but if it’s this big issue then I can see ending it. On the other hand. If it’s a student athlete that has stayed at one school for 4 years then certainly DONT take that away from them. Reward the loyalty
Two things need to happen immediately….1. The transfer portal is not opened until after the season is completed, 2. You can enter the transfer portal ONE time, period.
Great portal takes. But I heavily disagree on the NIL take. You mention the school directly paying the player. They are STUDENTS, not professionals. Fix NIL so its a hard rate all athletes get as an incentive, not as a job. Make it consistent across all schools and up the number by what level of NCAA it is. This would actually fix the NIL issues of lesser known athletes signing away their rights for life, and it would solve the issue of players entering the portal trying to get more money. These are students first, not athletes first lets make that clear in how they get incentive money, and then let them sell their autograph in a regulated setting, let them do YT without getting outside sponsorships, let them get a cut of their jersey sales. REGULATE IT
The players most be signed to 4 yrs contract , high School kids can sign on the 2nd of February , the portal will open on the last day of the regular season, and close on January 2nd ,and let the players form a union, and have penalty for early leaving by coaches,players and University.
I love the idea of a 2-year commitment with some amendments. Coaches leaving or getting fired, injury, etc... But... You GOTTA make the schools guarantee the athletes for 24 months also. Make it even on both sides.
My naivety had me thinking NIL meant, the player got a portion of their jersey sales, clothes sales, other appearances, posters, and advertising. I had no idea they were just giving the players huge amounts of money! Hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars?? It saddens me.
If their name image and likeness generates that much , then what is the problem? I feel like the athletes deserves every penny because theyre the ones putting in the work and making sacrifices. Athletes deserved to be compensated
Not true…big downside….only like 54% or so players that enter the portal find a new team…meaning 46% or so lose their scholarship. This will all sort itself out in time…for now, awful that so many kids give up a scholarship only to not find a new one 🙈🤷🏼♂️🤪
The only time a player should be allowed to transfer using a no limitation portal is when the head coach leaves. Then children need to learn decisions have consequences. They made their best decision when they were recruited. If they can’t beat out the competition at their chosen school too bad that is life. If they transfer, they sit out
Couldn't agree with you more, I saw one player transfer 3-4 times in a 12 month period. A transfer period similar could be to college what free agency is to the NFL. Signing day stopped being a big deal as soon as they added an early signing period.
Idk, seems to me that once the athletes have collective bargaining power, the eventual result is they will leverage that power to get a significant portion of total revenue earned by their sport. So….money previously used to subsidize other college sports (eg women’s field hockey) will now go to football players.
The portal is ruining college football. Not saying players can’t transfer, but Joel is correct, it is early and interferes with rosters for bowl games. I can foresee NFL players signing with college teams. Scholarships are worthless!
Define "Ruining." The play on the field isn't worse than it was. I don't like it either, but is there really a measurable "negative," or is it just different? The dates are horrible. No debate. But is the game on the field worse? No.
@@azmoe99 : Who knows who will be on the roster anymore! Players entering the portal prior to bowl games! It’s becoming a pro league! Don’t get me wrong, there are positives like the playoff expansion, the realignment of conferences is bad, but mega conferences could create a better playoff format. But players leaving schools for other schools, it’s about money rather than the student athlete.
As things are, If I'm a good player, I'm going to be in the transfer portal every year even if I like my team and coach because it's essentially a contract renegotiation tool. "You gave me $100K last year, well LSU wants to give me $350K to play for them next year, what are you going to do for me?" If you don't introduce the threat of leaving, the team you're with doesn't have an incentive to cough up more money.
My ideas again… I’m not the best or most educated but… 1. Players can’t transfer until the day after the National Championship game 2. Move the National championship to the Saturday before semesters start. Which means the semis will be like 12/27 rather than 1/1. 3. Conferences have to collectively bargain and pay players the same. And the players should be represented and have voting power for the collective bargaining. 4. Players are allowed to obtain NIL money after their first semester in school. 5. Allow players to sign brand endorsement deals This does a few things. Allows a true collective bargaining which will allow players to fight for more safety and rights across conferences without the Quarterbacks dominating the conversation. Also makes college football calendar academic focused which… it should be because… COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Allows the cream of the crop to still make their money. Keeps incoming freshman’s from making decisions based on a collective and bag. And it allows the kids to play the financial market of their own positions. After two years I can see how much the last good RB got and renegotiate my NIL. It also limits the amount of cross conference transfers as… I’m not leaving 50k to be a back up in the sec to be a starter in the PAC 2 for 25k
Ohio State fan here, Joel, you are the best. With that being said, College Football has many issues that need to be addressed. The 12-team playoff will solve one big one as CFB has the greatest regular season and the worst postseason. How can we have teams ranked #5, #6 and #7 with a combined record of 36-2 in power 5 conferences and those 3 teams are not in the postseason. I would like to see athletes have to sit out 1 year if they transfer within their conference. This would eliminate recruiting players off other teams that asst. coaches bump into after the game on the field etc. The calendar is a mess, I would get away with signing day. I would propose HS athletes can sign their scholarships beginning their senior year in 2 windows: Sept 1 through Oct 31 or any time after January 15th. Transfer portal would open up the second Monday in December. My biggest change would be postseason: I would keep the 12-team playoff as is. If you are in a power 5 conference and you do not make the playoff, your season is over. I would make the first weekend of college football (Labor Day weekend huge - College football would own it as the NFL does not start until a week later) you would have Bowl Games in week 1 Thursday-Monday: Example: Penn State vs. LSU in the Orange Bowl (fans could travel over the long weekend) You would have zero opt outs and those games would be meaningful (NASCAR runs their biggest race first) I would play about 25 Bowl Games that long weekend. During the postseason, I would keep the smaller Bowls for entertainment on a Tues-Fri nights (Example: Toledo vs. App State) and those participants would come from the other 6 non power 5 conferences and most of those players do not opt out - some do enter the portal though. Approx. 15+ Bowls etc. in the 12/22-12/31 window.
As an Oregon guy I always felt Oregon could compete with Alabama. However I'm not completely crazy I know there are 2nd string Alabama guys that Nick Saban doesn't favor for whatever reason that would start at Oregon. Now Oregon is getting those guys in the transfer portal so I think the portal has worked out ok.
Not sure all the rules but NIL should only have a max amount per year. So similiar to the NFL you get into a cap situation AND more money is spread around rather than just one or 2 players.
The only fix should be you cant Transfer until your Junior season, or for hardship, after that, you can tranfer as many times as you want. But honestly, i like the way it is now. If they wanted to place restrictions on someone why is it the players that suffer. Have a capped recruiting system, like your only allowed to have so many of a certain position on a team. The reason the portal blows up is not largely for money. Remember over 1000 player entered most wont see NIL money. Example, if your the 7th defensive back on Georgia, Alabama, or buried on the depth chart you have a chance to get on the field somewhere else. You can stop universities from lying to as many kids as possible, by capping positions.
TV, NIL, Universities treating student athletes like money making employees, and the NCAA not protecting student athletes in favor of the big business of college sports has ruined college sports.
The fact that NIL would be so dependent on playing for a certain team invalidates NIL as a concept. if someones Name Image Likeness only has value when its associated with a certain brand, then its the brand that actually holds the value, not the individual
McCord hit the portal because he was told up front that QB1 at Ohio State was up for grabs. I dont blame him for leaving and it probably best for all parties involved because the dude just wasn't quite good enough to be the QB for that program
Him and his father know he's not good enough, hence why he is leaving. He needs to go to a less competitive school in maybe a lower rated league. He'd make a good MAC QB, for instance.
I was with the timing, let there be transfer immediately after Bowl Season and HS Commitment before the Spring Games for early enrollment possibilities
One time through the transfer portal per player with no loss of eligibility in their college career. Obvious exception is if the coach is changed during the players career. More than one transfer results in loss of eligibility for one season.
I've heard these arguments before and recently, but it's not as easy of a fix as you say or think. Here is why IMO, 1. The early signing period makes sense on the surface, let a kid commit if he knows where he wants to go(as well as States allowing for NIL of HS players who are committed), or go back to the Feb date and risk high level tampering of verbally committed players(more than it already is). If you move it up to Aug. then you create an issue with the Coaching Carousel and then the de-commitment of players with signed LOI. 2. The Portal, IMO the portal should NOT be open when teams are preparing for a bowl games or playoffs, but moving the Portal window to say...Feb or even the first Monday after the NC Game in Jan. you create a Nationwide issue with Winter enrollment for MILLIONS of Students who are not Athletes...and we've seen what happens when you change society for the less than 10%...yikes!! so those are the issues I see that will cause a dragging of the feet from the NCAA when it comes to making any changes to the current format...but it is BROKEN! FYI...You should also have to sit a year on your second transfer!!
Joel... the fix is to cut scholarships AND roster slots to a certain number like the NFL. For college... say 65 roster spots +/-. That way, there is less hoarding of players sitting at 3rd and 4th string at Georgia and Michigan who are likely to transfer after a year. It would spread out the talent which college football desperately needs. Next year's top 10 will be roughly the same as this year's top ten... and I suspect it will be the same in 2 years, and 3 years. If that kid makes the roster of Georgia, he is going to see playing time sooner and you can bet the coaching staff will give him more attention then they do now with a roster of 100+ players when you count walk ons. In fact, that 65th kid might see some game time on special teams... vs. probably not even dressing for the game because of the limits of how many can dress.
@@bubbarainwater No... FOUR deep. 85 scholarships (22 positions X 4 deep = 88 so almost 4 deep) Most rosters are 100+ as there are walk ons and 5th year seniors who came back hoping to play. Half the roster doesn't even dress for games as there is a limit for how many can be dressed. College football would be far more interesting if more teams were better. Indiana has beaten Michigan one time in the last 30 years and 10 times out of the last 72 attempts. And most of those wins happened when Eisenhower was President. Things change and there is nothing wrong with addressing those changes.
I have no problems with limits on transfers as long as schools guarantee scholarships. If a team wants to cut a player they have to honor their scholarship.
Removing the graduate option affects a players education options so I couldn't support that point. As to pay-for-play, there must protections in place for the athletes in terms of tax liability and the proposed system must be created to ensure it cannot being used counter-productively against them. We don't want to see loopholes where coaches, programs, universities, boosters, collectives, etc. can use it as a threat.
Joel, as long as the players have the same flexibility as their coaches, in every way from getting paid to moving teams, then I support it. Otherwise, the players need to have the same flexibility as the coaches.
One thing the public haven't realized nearly 50% of players are left hanging some student atheletes credits are accepted at other schools and others ends up at Div 2 or 3 others are left out totally. Learned that last night listening to Joel Klatts interview the new Big 12 commissioner. This entire season with all the talk of the transfer portal not one time has these Espn sports talk shows mentioned this. I said all this hoopla no one mentioned Credits or GPA dang
You're talking about completely monetizing the sport and that will result in a handful of schools tightening their choke hold on incoming talent... Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, USC, Texas, etc will gain that much more of an advantage over the rest of CFB.
@@jpm5205 respectfully disagree. As much as I respect Sabin as a coach, and I’m not a fan of Alabama, nobody shows up to see him. Coaches promised the world, the kids and then leave for a better job.
Great points! - Don't open portal until January - Only one transfer allowed - I would put a cap on nil spending. The NFL has caps and has done so for years.
Only way to fix is leave it the same but change high school early signing period 4th Wed-Fri of November. Portal open 12/24-1/5. So everyone could enroll spring season.
I agree with the timing of transfers need to be identified. But you either need to eliminate the portal or its open season. I don't see how you can be half in half out on this issue
Dec = I have to recruit & replace my staff I have to combat annual free agency I have to recruit my own players I have to recruit highschool player I have to recruit the transfer portal Oh and by the way, we are preparing for a bowl game.... That is ridiculous Anything is better than the current system Move portal date to Jan 1-15, they would still be able to enroll in new school Go back to Feb for highschool signing day Limit Transfer after after 2 season or after a degree (associates degree, undergrad degree would allow you 2 transfers and require you to stay on top of your classes but also allow you to work ahead if you want to get out) [Personally I think they should do the same for basketball, it is not difficult to get an associate degree, if you work hard you can have it done by end of freshman year which would allow you to jump to NBA early, or go a 2 year route and coaches can build around you]
Make it the old transfer rule for players transferring inside the conference, make them wait a year. Example, a player transferring from Miami to Florida state has to wait a year, but if he wants to play at Oregon or Texas he doesn’t.
Men's college football and basketball are multi-billion dollar sports entertainment industries and the courts have ended monopolistic denial of free market labor (player) costs. Just like all other entertainment industry labor, college and player contracts set the terms: compensation (including scholarships and room & board), term length, termination, default/breach, renewal, etc. The default clause could have payback penalties. The contracts solve the timing and frequency of transfers and all the other issues Joel mentions. More than the NFLPA, collective bargaining could be modeled after the Screen Actors Guild, which has many thousands of members, most of whom only receive minimum scale but allows for the stars to negotiate big bucks deals. Schools, like studios, could opt-out and hire non-union labor. Parents of under 18 year old players (high school players) would have to be parties to the contract.
Should state something like no transfering within same conference, if so you sit a year. And no transfer from a team to a new team already confirmed on next years schedule, if so you sit a year.
Can’t transfer unless after 24 months? What if the player doesn’t like how they actually coach? Or how he’s being used. Go in as RB but they try to make you a DB? I can give you plenty of examples. And a player can’t transfer after graduation? If a players has eligibility after getting the degree, why can’t they find somewhere else to play? I don’t think a lot of this was thought through
Revolves around the calendar. Be recruiting from Thanksgiving until end of national title, slows the coach carousel down. I thought the graduate transfer was great, if a kid graduates in 3 years, then he can get 2 years. The one time free transfer will is a mess.
I'm not a fan of most of these ideas, except maybe for the first one. But if you separate the high school recruits and the transfer portal then a high school recruit may commit and realize that they picked up someone at his same position through the portal!! Secondly, your ideas give the power back to the schools and don't allow for player movement. Having them commit for 20 months only locks the player in, for them to be discarded and held captive to a school and coach who doesn't want them. Then making a player become an employee also gives the power to the school, the player is now under the rule of an employee and has to take on that school's new rules. The ability to fine them, withhold pay, fire, and not have control of their own money or deals. Collective bargaining will also lead to less money for individual players, less say so who and how they do business, and limited business dealings. When you let schools collectively bargain then the money gets spread around and everyone, and I mean everyone gets a piece. And when you become a "Nike" school then you limit the players from signing any deals with Adidas, reebok, etc. Joel is doing a lot of assuming and playing on the narrative that the school is in the best interest of the student when we have 50-plus years of evidence that they are in it for the money.
I would add another thing. Coaches and universities should be bound on their end as well. Coaches continue to jump from job to job looking for more money. I believe they must commit to contract length with no way out. And I believe that coaches should not be able to pull scholarships and push guys out with just cause. And the fact that a player just didn't turn out to be as good as they thought, is not a good reason. Evaluation of talent and potential falls on the coaching staff. Just because you can't properly evaluate talent, is not the responsibility of the athlete. The player has to hold up their end of the bargain by going to practice, meetings and maintaining their class schedule and grades to a minimum standard. Coaches, universities and players all bound together.
The hardship waiver should only be for major family illness. Its too easy to claim hardships for any reason now. Graduate and Coaching changes=immediate transfer eligibility. Otherwise needs to sit out a year, shouldn't be eligible for NIL for the first year after a transfer as well. That can stop a lot of tampering.
Pay all the players their fair share and stop all this NIL wackiness. In all pro sports in the U.S., the players basically get 50% of the league's revenue. Do the same for college. Oh and any restraints you put on the players should also be put on coaches too.
A non compete for an amateur sport won’t work. Won’t hold in court, plus general students aren’t treated this way. A band member who transfers isn’t barred from playing for a year. The ncaa would need to salary players directly for something like this to work
Easy answer is if they do not participate or attend team events for the entire season they should have to repay scholorships for the time spent at the school. The school honors their end of the contract, so should the players.
Why not turn scholarships into De facto contracts, you have 1 year scholarships 2 year, 3 year 4 year etc. and you cannot transfer when on scholarship unless certain parameters occur like losing a coach, program changes or something of that nature. NIL could also stipulate something in there.
The easiest fix is to stop it all together...All you're teaching kids these days, if you don't like what's going on, quit, don't work harder, don't have a talk with the coach, just be a quitter and never learn any life lessons.
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How would you fix the transfer portal?
get rid of it, go back to the old system, and actually put the "student" back in student athlete. You would see the SEC fall off real quick if that was the case. Most of the schools in the SEC are trash institutions of higher learning. We have more prestigious community colleges in the north then some of those SEC schools. So sad.
1) your not allowed to enter the portal till after your sophomore season
2) you get one free transfer where you dont have to sit out a year, after your first you lose a year of eligibility no exceptions
The players should have the same amount of freedom as coaches do to change schools.
Coaches don’t leave often because they have contracts that pay them well. It should be the same for the college minor leagues. Pay the kids; sign them to contracts, same as coaches. It’s time.
@@zesolodar why do you think restrictions are good? Kids will still transfer, just sit out and then sue the ncaa, if they are not paid employees it’s gross fans think they should be stuck
@@spaniardprince exactly people don’t like transfer portal, well great but they don’t get paid and so won’t be stuck at one school until the magic money cannon gives them a share like it should
Transfer portal should NOT be open until the season ends. If a student needs to transfer for extraordinary circumstances, then there is a process for that. The open transfer market happening ahead of the post-season completely destroys the Bowl season.
good point!
No doubt. But the problem with that is that if you wait until after the season then by the time the portal opens the next semester of school has already started.
Destroys the bowl season? Everybody good sits out the bowl season except for the top 4 teams. Bowls are just extra income for schools, just like the league championship. Better get used to it, the kids are in charge now after a century of being used and abused for no profit. Schools dont like it the kids will go elsewhere.
@@hubster4477lol if you think the "kids" are in charge you're delusional. The only ones that are in charge are the networks. Specifically ESPN and Fox. They're the only ones pouring billions of dollars into the college game. Follow the money 💰 💰💰
bowl season was never important
As a parent of 4.5 star Sr high school football player the current system is a nightmare. Between the extra covid years that are still working their way out of the system and the portal. It's is almost impossible to find a good spot and get your school covered.
i hope they take your ideas into consideration , its crazy how its usually some super simple stuff that the NCAA fails to incorporate into the system that they have in place that could make the System SOOO much better
Man, once again, Joel is right on the money. I love every point he made.
I love the freedom that the players have right now. Coaches have promised kids positions amongst other things and just up and leave and take another job that benefits them. This has been going on since college football has started. It’s time to even the playing field
Facts now everybodys crying because the players are doing it. Coaches have never been 100% loyal to a program. Once a better opportunity presents itself, theyre up and gone. Why cant players do the same?
@@DocNininithey can do the same but that’s not the issue lol. The issue is 1000s of players are doing that even with the coach remaining the same.
True story nothing against the players
I get transferring down when you go to Oklahoma and realize you're not good enough to cut it, so you transfer to a lesser program for playing time. I agree with Klat here, because one of the biggest issues is transfers screwing new recruits. A guy gets recruited, then a transfer or graduate transfer who's slightly better because he already has 1-4 years of college experience screws the new recruited out of his job, forces him to transfer if he wants to play. The coaches are incentivized to play the more experienced player rather than develop a player because wins are the end all be all. Wins get you paid, wins open up opportunities at bigger programs, it's not at all about development of the players anymore, it's go to the portal and get the best predeveloped players. I think transfers need limitations. Coaches leaving should make you eligible for transferring, but the current state of the transfer portal is out of control.
@@DocNinini Coaches in the NFL and NBA have contracts like the coaches in the NCAA. The difference is pro players ALSO have contracts. You want the college players to have contacts too, and have to commit to a team for 3 years? Sounds good to me.
Joel has had beliefs and suggestions in the past that I still believe are true today. He is one smart dude!! He is right on the money with everything today.
As always, Klatt is absolutely spot on.
Klatt is not always spot on. He is just better spoken than most. Some of his takes are off base.
@@davidcole333like this one is off. Why punish graduates?
Said apparently one person ever. Klatt has more bad takes than good ones.
@@mcwright0178okay guy
No he's not. NIL and Portals is NOT good for college sports.
I love the idea of 2 year commitment on the player side.
I think it's a good idea. I would also, naturally, support a reciprocal scholarship commitment from the school. Otherwise, requiring a two-year commitment from the student-athlete in exchange for a one-year scholarship renewable at the discretion of the coach and program would be unreasonable.
I agree !
Yeah but these kids have a dream it's not to sit behind two other kids, so schools can have a deep bench. Remember the clock is ticking once you go to the school.
You then are back to the antitrust issue.
No way Leave it alone Can you say lawsuit
If they set this up where players can collectively bargain, you'll have the women suing to get paid the same amount. Just like the US women's soccer team. There are going to be unintended consequences. The transfer portal and NIL were supposed to solve the supposed previous 'issues'. It turned into a nightmare almost immediately.
I think that plan from baker forces them to pay the women as much even if their sport brings in negative revenue. It’s a bid to save and expand Title IX.
Joel Klatt always with great takes 💯💯 on college football.
I think you should get a transfer exception if your coach leaves too
That would GUT some programs at the worst possible moment.
I think that schools are going to eventually start structuring deals that have commitment clauses built-in. a player might be promised XL but it would be divvied out over the course of a certain number of seasons or they might have to pay it back if they transfer.
Limit the number of times a player can enter the portal during their career. If they leave when their coach leaves, they can play immediately at the new school, but if the coach who recruited them stays at the school they are leaving, they should have to sit out a year like Baker and Kyler and so many others did.
They need to go back to sitting a year with a transfer vs. immediate eligibility unless player is a grad transfer. Immediate eligibility was cool and all when no NIL but NIL has really changed the game.
They get one shot I’m fine with it, coach’s move, administers move, players should have choice to move
@timlamb1156 Yea but moving like this is ridiculous
College football, the game we love, is going down the drain. Fix it! Put guardrails/rules to govern the process. Way too many 3rd parties getting involved…. Just inviting corruption to the game.
College athletics is a hot mess right now, I don't think it can be fix, the NCAA is afraid of lawsuits.
@@mscooldeadly for who? They get one shot, I don’t care about your team or my team I care about options for kids, schools and coaches only care about themselves
You're my favorite cfb analyst for a reason Joel! Keep it up man! Go Blue!!!
First and most obvious is portal opening in December is insane. Move the date please, maybe February is ideal. Also, what it entails person is getting into very clear and transparent about what will or will not happen. I think too much movement of player will degrade skills, only should be allowed to move once, or a waiver for as stated unforeseen hardship or circumstance. Please do all those, portal mentally channels anxiety for coaches, players and family.
I have an idea on NIL rules that could also stabilize the portal chaos too. What if we treated NIL money like a business does vested retirement or bonus programs? The player gets a NIL trust and has access to 20% of the money after year 1, 35% after year 2, 50% after year 3 and 100% after year 4. That includes the requirement of playing in the bowls to fulfill the requirement. Obviously things like career ending injury can be factored in.
Players would really have to have some major grievance that makes staying unbearable to walk away from a school knowing that a portion of that money is being left behind.
Underrated comment!!
Why do you want to control the money given to a college athlete by a business or entity in exchange for advertising? That seems weird. They are young but they are not children.
3:25 : I don’t think this is a bad idea but putting “mental health” as a reason to make an exception for a transfer limit just opens the door for everyone using that as their reason
The portal should not be open until after all the bowl games have finished. The portal should close before high school students make decisions. Graduate students should get 1 "free" transfer during the portal period.
They might of had alot of player bsing a medical or hardship transfer to get one, so they made it universal. Also really puts pressure on coaches to be good and devlopmental for their players
I was a student trainer at FSU in the Deion days, so I saw this stuff . . .First, I would allow for transfers either up a "division" or down without penalty, but I would reinstate the "sit year" for same division transfers. Second, eliminate "grad transfer" . . . just encourages transfers down the depth chart. Third, and this is assuming you do not do #1 or #2, eliminate the "redshirt" rule which would limit players' value (gained over time) and move them into "professional" sports. By court precedent, you cannot limit NIL, so you have to limit the transfer "circus", or you are going to exasperate your best coaches.
1 transfer for a player's entire career, and when you transfer, you lose any NIL opportunities going forward if you already had one in place at the school you just left. Also, this crazy behind the scenes $5000+ just for a kid to come for a campus visit is loco. The schools need to adopt the UCR system that doctors must follow to bill for services...Usual & Customary Rates is a system that caps a doctors fee off at a certain point to keep them from price gauging. Travel fees, room, board etc, meals should be plenty, plus a meeting with whomever manages NIL, plus a $500 gift or something. But $5000 just to come for a visit? Loco. They can go visit 20 schools knowing they already know where they are going to go. They get the official visits and unofficial vists, yes, but no one knows of any other behind the scenes visits that are arranged. It could literally be the max for official, the max for unoffical, and then WHATEVER else that the player can swindle.
Are you saying that student athletes should follow the same rule as paid employees? Hmmm
@@bherbo3943 If they are being paid, yes, and they are being paid. This confuse you?
You mentioned it with the guys and the girls. How could you collectively bargain in a situation where Title IX is applicable> NIL works because it bypasses the remit of Title IX.
Apparently getting a free college education doesn't mean anything anymore? Why doesn't this play into all this? That's a HUGE benefit most people NEVER get. That should count for something. There should be NO NIL and only 1 transfer period.
What about adding a buyout clause to the commitment period? A player can leave before 2 years, if the collective or university is compensated. I would also consider extending the commitment period to 3 years (with an early buyout clause) since a lot of players don’t even contribute until their 3rd year. Also the commitment goes both ways, schools can’t just dump a player if he can’t play.
Nothing is wrong with the transfer portal. Head coaches are just mad now because they pretty much can’t control a player now . Before if your were in the dog house with a coach , they would just sit you and deny you playing time . Now a player can just say no playing time cool , I’ll go elsewhere. And they are mad at that . The only people mad at the transfer portal are people who don’t play currently, or that have never played college football!!!!!
Joel is right about things needing to tighten up. It can’t be the Wild West, otherwise CFB will be ruined.
-Players can freely transfer once (excluding coach change/hardship…etc)
-Transfer portal opens after team season over (including bowls if applicable), closes on March 1. HS signing deadline ends 30 days after portal closes to give incoming players a chance to see what the team will be.
-If you are going to call it NIL and not just paychecks for players, money is capped and tied to fulfilling team obligations (playing full season or two), and also tied to actually using NIL to render services ,instead of it just being a payday. This keeps the players moving to the NFL and not sticking around, makes schools accountable for the money paid, and gives less affluent teams a chance to entice big players with NIL money.
Also, what about leveraging the NFL draft eligibility as an inflection point? That is, a player is committed to a college (save for a hardship waiver) for 3 years. At that time then they could declare for NFL, transfer or continue with the original committed school. The following year, if the player didn't transfer, then he would have the same options. Players would then need to factor in immediate term (NIL) and long term (development) concerns into the decision
As a former D1 athlete....I transferred and the only way I was able to play immediately was to transfer down to D2 or lower. This transfer portal free for all is RIDICULOUS!
Why is it ridiculous? The previous rule of only you being able to transfer and play for a D2 is ridiculous. Coaches woukd recruit players and transfer schools qll.the time, but nobody ever made a fuss about that.
An athlete should be allowed to transfer but he/she should either sit out a year and keep all his/her eligibility or lose a year if he/she wants to play right away. Grad students should be allowed to play immediately.
A player receiving NIL money should be required to play in bowl games if medically able. Opting out to prepare for the draft/NFL should be a violation of their NIL contract, and result in a monetary penalty. These players are de facto employees now, and should be treated as employees.
De facto so not actually. If they paid the players I would agree but nil is just you using your own fame
That was Joel's point, NIL is a fiction. The players are being paid like employees now.
If players have to play in bowls, coaches have to stay and coach the bowls. Fair is fair!
Coaches are actually paid by the universities and when they decide to leave they don’t have to coach the bowl why should it be different for players
that’s not how NIL works or was intended to work haha. There’s a lot wrong with NIL but this isn’t really how this works id focus attention elsewhere when it comes to NIL.
When a student-athlete graduates with eligibility remaining, and wants to start a graduate program at another university, then I believe they should not be restricted by any prior undergraduate commitments.
Graduate transfers are an asset to college sports. By definition, they have completed their undergraduate degrees and are pursuing a post-baccalaureate degree. I would allow their NCAA eligibility status to continue, as is, and without change.
Yeah, I don't see why Joel said that and why you would want to hurt the status of a graduate student. In a sense, it's not a 'transfer' as they have completed the scholarship requirements of their undergraduate tenure.
@@brob8204 Agree 100%. Transfer is a misnomer. Transfer implies a carrying over of something started elsewhere. Graduate programs are, with few exceptions, categorically distinct. It’s a subsequent enrollment at a different school, but not a transfer.
IMO, graduate transfers should simply remain on the same 5 years to complete four seasons that, aside from Covid exemptions, exists now.
First, I don't think the courts are going to allow the NCAA to limit the transfers to 1 time, and as far as moving the portal window to protect the bowls, I dont think they can unless you reshape the season calendar. Transfers need to happen before the next semester. So my suggestion would be to alter the season to start August first. Play the conference championships Thanksgiving weekend. Play the playoffs the first 3 weeks of December and the Championship on Jan. 1. All players would be done by the next semester.
You are the best voice in sports broadcasting.
NIL should be available to the player throughout their time at the original school. But I guarantee if you took that money away if the player decided to transfer prior to their third year that would lower the numbers in the portal. However once eligible to go to the draft or stay for their senior season that NIL could kick back in. Of course there are certain hardships that allow the early transfer still
Payments to athletes should be a flat guarantee from a pool based on the revenue of the sport. Then, at the end of a player’s career, there should be arbitration that determines if they brought extra revenue they need to be compensated for.
For example, Tim Tebow would have gotten the same flat fee as everyone else while playing. But after he moved on, Florida would owe him like a 40 million dollar check based on what he brought, determined by third party arbitration from a firm that specializes in determining this value.
How do you calculate that? And it wasn't just Tebow. He played with 26 players who were drafted into the NFL.
I’m not sure if the 5 years senior thing is for anyone that’s graduated OR if it’s for student athletes that’s have spent a full 4 at one school and wish to go somewhere else. If it’s for anyone. Sure, get rid of it but if we are being honest who is goin pro and stayin in college 5 years? Covid years are an exemption obviously. There are some guys that benefit tremendously from that 5th year. For the few player that decide to do this and ACTUALLY have a school that’ll pick them up, I like it for them, but if it’s this big issue then I can see ending it. On the other hand. If it’s a student athlete that has stayed at one school for 4 years then certainly DONT take that away from them. Reward the loyalty
Two things need to happen immediately….1. The transfer portal is not opened until after the season is completed, 2. You can enter the transfer portal ONE time, period.
Agreed
Great portal takes. But I heavily disagree on the NIL take. You mention the school directly paying the player. They are STUDENTS, not professionals. Fix NIL so its a hard rate all athletes get as an incentive, not as a job. Make it consistent across all schools and up the number by what level of NCAA it is. This would actually fix the NIL issues of lesser known athletes signing away their rights for life, and it would solve the issue of players entering the portal trying to get more money. These are students first, not athletes first lets make that clear in how they get incentive money, and then let them sell their autograph in a regulated setting, let them do YT without getting outside sponsorships, let them get a cut of their jersey sales. REGULATE IT
The players most be signed to 4 yrs contract , high School kids can sign on the 2nd of February , the portal will open on the last day of the regular season, and close on January 2nd ,and let the players form a union, and have penalty for early leaving by coaches,players and University.
I love the idea of a 2-year commitment with some amendments. Coaches leaving or getting fired, injury, etc...
But... You GOTTA make the schools guarantee the athletes for 24 months also. Make it even on both sides.
My naivety had me thinking NIL meant, the player got a portion of their jersey sales, clothes sales, other appearances, posters, and advertising. I had no idea they were just giving the players huge amounts of money! Hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars?? It saddens me.
If their name image and likeness generates that much , then what is the problem? I feel like the athletes deserves every penny because theyre the ones putting in the work and making sacrifices. Athletes deserved to be compensated
If you allow exceptions for extenuating circumstances then all players will have extenuating circumstances. Players gonna play the game.
Then coaches shouldn’t be able to coach for a year if leaving for another job. Coaches shouldn’t be fired until season is over.
There needs to be some disincentive to jumping in. There's literally no downside.
Not true…big downside….only like 54% or so players that enter the portal find a new team…meaning 46% or so lose their scholarship. This will all sort itself out in time…for now, awful that so many kids give up a scholarship only to not find a new one 🙈🤷🏼♂️🤪
The only time a player should be allowed to transfer using a no limitation portal is when the head coach leaves. Then children need to learn decisions have consequences. They made their best decision when they were recruited. If they can’t beat out the competition at their chosen school too bad that is life. If they transfer, they sit out
How do the players benefit from less opportunities to transfer? Y'all wanted this NIL and transfer portal world. Now you have to live in it
Coach Kelly got to leave ND on a plane to Baton Rouge overnight.
Exactly, rules for the players should mean rules for coaches too!
@@okrajoe the coaches have way stricter rules than the players. ever heard of a contract buyout?
@@okrajoe Coaches have contracts.
Couldn't agree with you more, I saw one player transfer 3-4 times in a 12 month period. A transfer period similar could be to college what free agency is to the NFL. Signing day stopped being a big deal as soon as they added an early signing period.
When you stop coaches from taking off in the middle of the night on a whim, then we'll talk about the transfer portal.
Idk, seems to me that once the athletes have collective bargaining power, the eventual result is they will leverage that power to get a significant portion of total revenue earned by their sport. So….money previously used to subsidize other college sports (eg women’s field hockey) will now go to football players.
The portal is ruining college football. Not saying players can’t transfer, but Joel is correct, it is early and interferes with rosters for bowl games. I can foresee NFL players signing with college teams. Scholarships are worthless!
Define "Ruining."
The play on the field isn't worse than it was. I don't like it either, but is there really a measurable "negative," or is it just different?
The dates are horrible. No debate.
But is the game on the field worse? No.
@@azmoe99 :
Who knows who will be on the roster anymore! Players entering the portal prior to bowl games! It’s becoming a pro league! Don’t get me wrong, there are positives like the playoff expansion, the realignment of conferences is bad, but mega conferences could create a better playoff format. But players leaving schools for other schools, it’s about money rather than the student athlete.
As things are, If I'm a good player, I'm going to be in the transfer portal every year even if I like my team and coach because it's essentially a contract renegotiation tool. "You gave me $100K last year, well LSU wants to give me $350K to play for them next year, what are you going to do for me?" If you don't introduce the threat of leaving, the team you're with doesn't have an incentive to cough up more money.
My ideas again… I’m not the best or most educated but…
1. Players can’t transfer until the day after the National Championship game
2. Move the National championship to the Saturday before semesters start. Which means the semis will be like 12/27 rather than 1/1.
3. Conferences have to collectively bargain and pay players the same. And the players should be represented and have voting power for the collective bargaining.
4. Players are allowed to obtain NIL money after their first semester in school.
5. Allow players to sign brand endorsement deals
This does a few things. Allows a true collective bargaining which will allow players to fight for more safety and rights across conferences without the Quarterbacks dominating the conversation. Also makes college football calendar academic focused which… it should be because… COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Allows the cream of the crop to still make their money. Keeps incoming freshman’s from making decisions based on a collective and bag. And it allows the kids to play the financial market of their own positions. After two years I can see how much the last good RB got and renegotiate my NIL. It also limits the amount of cross conference transfers as… I’m not leaving 50k to be a back up in the sec to be a starter in the PAC 2 for 25k
Ohio State fan here, Joel, you are the best. With that being said, College Football has many issues that need to be addressed. The 12-team playoff will solve one big one as CFB has the greatest regular season and the worst postseason. How can we have teams ranked #5, #6 and #7 with a combined record of 36-2 in power 5 conferences and those 3 teams are not in the postseason.
I would like to see athletes have to sit out 1 year if they transfer within their conference. This would eliminate recruiting players off other teams that asst. coaches bump into after the game on the field etc. The calendar is a mess, I would get away with signing day. I would propose HS athletes can sign their scholarships beginning their senior year in 2 windows: Sept 1 through Oct 31 or any time after January 15th. Transfer portal would open up the second Monday in December.
My biggest change would be postseason: I would keep the 12-team playoff as is. If you are in a power 5 conference and you do not make the playoff, your season is over. I would make the first weekend of college football (Labor Day weekend huge - College football would own it as the NFL does not start until a week later) you would have Bowl Games in week 1 Thursday-Monday: Example: Penn State vs. LSU in the Orange Bowl (fans could travel over the long weekend) You would have zero opt outs and those games would be meaningful (NASCAR runs their biggest race first) I would play about 25 Bowl Games that long weekend. During the postseason, I would keep the smaller Bowls for entertainment on a Tues-Fri nights (Example: Toledo vs. App State) and those participants would come from the other 6 non power 5 conferences and most of those players do not opt out - some do enter the portal though. Approx. 15+ Bowls etc. in the 12/22-12/31 window.
As an Oregon guy I always felt Oregon could compete with Alabama. However I'm not completely crazy I know there are 2nd string Alabama guys that Nick Saban doesn't favor for whatever reason that would start at Oregon. Now Oregon is getting those guys in the transfer portal so I think the portal has worked out ok.
-Portal only open once a year for 15 days after Spring practice.
-One time Portal use
Not sure all the rules but NIL should only have a max amount per year. So similiar to the NFL you get into a cap situation AND more money is spread around rather than just one or 2 players.
Cap on coaches pay too?
@@hubster4477 nah. This is America, and they should have the luxury of exploiting young broke college kids for millions every year
The only fix should be you cant Transfer until your Junior season, or for hardship, after that, you can tranfer as many times as you want. But honestly, i like the way it is now. If they wanted to place restrictions on someone why is it the players that suffer. Have a capped recruiting system, like your only allowed to have so many of a certain position on a team. The reason the portal blows up is not largely for money. Remember over 1000 player entered most wont see NIL money. Example, if your the 7th defensive back on Georgia, Alabama, or buried on the depth chart you have a chance to get on the field somewhere else. You can stop universities from lying to as many kids as possible, by capping positions.
Some good points but anything that restricts player freedom of movement I’m against.
Are there any restrictions on scholarship academic students transferring to different schools?
Great ideas! The only problem is reliance on hardship waivers which allows the incompetent NCAA to make decisions.
No "hardships"! Sometimes life just sucks . . . good lessons! Let kids transfer up/down, not laterally.
TV, NIL, Universities treating student athletes like money making employees, and the NCAA not protecting student athletes in favor of the big business of college sports has ruined college sports.
NIL would be smart to make these players sign a three year contract. Otherwise, they pay most of their NIL money back before transferring.
The fact that NIL would be so dependent on playing for a certain team invalidates NIL as a concept. if someones Name Image Likeness only has value when its associated with a certain brand, then its the brand that actually holds the value, not the individual
McCord hit the portal because he was told up front that QB1 at Ohio State was up for grabs. I dont blame him for leaving and it probably best for all parties involved because the dude just wasn't quite good enough to be the QB for that program
Him and his father know he's not good enough, hence why he is leaving. He needs to go to a less competitive school in maybe a lower rated league. He'd make a good MAC QB, for instance.
I was with the timing, let there be transfer immediately after Bowl Season and HS Commitment before the Spring Games for early enrollment possibilities
One time through the transfer portal per player with no loss of eligibility in their college career. Obvious exception is if the coach is changed during the players career. More than one transfer results in loss of eligibility for one season.
I've heard these arguments before and recently, but it's not as easy of a fix as you say or think. Here is why IMO, 1. The early signing period makes sense on the surface, let a kid commit if he knows where he wants to go(as well as States allowing for NIL of HS players who are committed), or go back to the Feb date and risk high level tampering of verbally committed players(more than it already is). If you move it up to Aug. then you create an issue with the Coaching Carousel and then the de-commitment of players with signed LOI. 2. The Portal, IMO the portal should NOT be open when teams are preparing for a bowl games or playoffs, but moving the Portal window to say...Feb or even the first Monday after the NC Game in Jan. you create a Nationwide issue with Winter enrollment for MILLIONS of Students who are not Athletes...and we've seen what happens when you change society for the less than 10%...yikes!! so those are the issues I see that will cause a dragging of the feet from the NCAA when it comes to making any changes to the current format...but it is BROKEN! FYI...You should also have to sit a year on your second transfer!!
The second you started paying them - it was over
Coaches don’t have these parameters or obligations to stay for 20 months. Chill Joel
Joel... the fix is to cut scholarships AND roster slots to a certain number like the NFL. For college... say 65 roster spots +/-. That way, there is less hoarding of players sitting at 3rd and 4th string at Georgia and Michigan who are likely to transfer after a year. It would spread out the talent which college football desperately needs. Next year's top 10 will be roughly the same as this year's top ten... and I suspect it will be the same in 2 years, and 3 years.
If that kid makes the roster of Georgia, he is going to see playing time sooner and you can bet the coaching staff will give him more attention then they do now with a roster of 100+ players when you count walk ons. In fact, that 65th kid might see some game time on special teams... vs. probably not even dressing for the game because of the limits of how many can dress.
Eliminate the "redshirt" and you limit the roster . . . look up 247's talent composite it proves your point (Bama, UGA are 3-deep in 4/5 stars).
@@bubbarainwater No... FOUR deep. 85 scholarships (22 positions X 4 deep = 88 so almost 4 deep) Most rosters are 100+ as there are walk ons and 5th year seniors who came back hoping to play. Half the roster doesn't even dress for games as there is a limit for how many can be dressed. College football would be far more interesting if more teams were better.
Indiana has beaten Michigan one time in the last 30 years and 10 times out of the last 72 attempts. And most of those wins happened when Eisenhower was President.
Things change and there is nothing wrong with addressing those changes.
I have no problems with limits on transfers as long as schools guarantee scholarships. If a team wants to cut a player they have to honor their scholarship.
Most conferences already do that.
He nailed it here
Removing the graduate option affects a players education options so I couldn't support that point.
As to pay-for-play, there must protections in place for the athletes in terms of tax liability and the proposed system must be created to ensure it cannot being used counter-productively against them. We don't want to see loopholes where coaches, programs, universities, boosters, collectives, etc. can use it as a threat.
Joel, as long as the players have the same flexibility as their coaches, in every way from getting paid to moving teams, then I support it. Otherwise, the players need to have the same flexibility as the coaches.
One thing the public haven't realized nearly 50% of players are left hanging some student atheletes credits are accepted at other schools and others ends up at Div 2 or 3 others are left out totally. Learned that last night listening to Joel Klatts interview the new Big 12 commissioner. This entire season with all the talk of the transfer portal not one time has these Espn sports talk shows mentioned this. I said all this hoopla no one mentioned Credits or GPA dang
Dumb idea. Coaches are professionals, players are supposed to be student athletes in the best traditions of amateurism.
You're talking about completely monetizing the sport and that will result in a handful of schools tightening their choke hold on incoming talent... Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, USC, Texas, etc will gain that much more of an advantage over the rest of CFB.
@@jpm5205 respectfully disagree. As much as I respect Sabin as a coach, and I’m not a fan of Alabama, nobody shows up to see him. Coaches promised the world, the kids and then leave for a better job.
@@jpm5205how are they professionals when they are coaching amateur players?
great analysis
Great points!
- Don't open portal until January
- Only one transfer allowed
- I would put a cap on nil spending. The NFL has caps and has done so for years.
I think putting an NIL cap might not be legal but if it is it would be a good idea
Well said Joel.
Only way to fix is leave it the same but change high school early signing period 4th Wed-Fri of November. Portal open 12/24-1/5. So everyone could enroll spring season.
I agree with the timing of transfers need to be identified. But you either need to eliminate the portal or its open season. I don't see how you can be half in half out on this issue
Dec =
I have to recruit & replace my staff
I have to combat annual free agency
I have to recruit my own players
I have to recruit highschool player
I have to recruit the transfer portal
Oh and by the way, we are preparing for a bowl game....
That is ridiculous
Anything is better than the current system
Move portal date to Jan 1-15, they would still be able to enroll in new school
Go back to Feb for highschool signing day
Limit Transfer after after 2 season or after a degree (associates degree, undergrad degree would allow you 2 transfers and require you to stay on top of your classes but also allow you to work ahead if you want to get out)
[Personally I think they should do the same for basketball, it is not difficult to get an associate degree, if you work hard you can have it done by end of freshman year which would allow you to jump to NBA early, or go a 2 year route and coaches can build around you]
Make it the old transfer rule for players transferring inside the conference, make them wait a year.
Example, a player transferring from Miami to Florida state has to wait a year, but if he wants to play at Oregon or Texas he doesn’t.
Men's college football and basketball are multi-billion dollar sports entertainment industries and the courts have ended monopolistic denial of free market labor (player) costs. Just like all other entertainment industry labor, college and player contracts set the terms: compensation (including scholarships and room & board), term length, termination, default/breach, renewal, etc. The default clause could have payback penalties. The contracts solve the timing and frequency of transfers and all the other issues Joel mentions. More than the NFLPA, collective bargaining could be modeled after the Screen Actors Guild, which has many thousands of members, most of whom only receive minimum scale but allows for the stars to negotiate big bucks deals. Schools, like studios, could opt-out and hire non-union labor. Parents of under 18 year old players (high school players) would have to be parties to the contract.
Should state something like no transfering within same conference, if so you sit a year. And no transfer from a team to a new team already confirmed on next years schedule, if so you sit a year.
Hey Joel ! Spot on !
Your logic makes so much sense it probably won’t happen ! I hope I’m wrong.
Can’t transfer unless after 24 months? What if the player doesn’t like how they actually coach? Or how he’s being used.
Go in as RB but they try to make you a DB? I can give you plenty of examples.
And a player can’t transfer after graduation? If a players has eligibility after getting the degree, why can’t they find somewhere else to play?
I don’t think a lot of this was thought through
Revolves around the calendar.
Be recruiting from Thanksgiving until end of national title, slows the coach carousel down. I thought the graduate transfer was great, if a kid graduates in 3 years, then he can get 2 years. The one time free transfer will is a mess.
I'm not a fan of most of these ideas, except maybe for the first one. But if you separate the high school recruits and the transfer portal then a high school recruit may commit and realize that they picked up someone at his same position through the portal!! Secondly, your ideas give the power back to the schools and don't allow for player movement. Having them commit for 20 months only locks the player in, for them to be discarded and held captive to a school and coach who doesn't want them. Then making a player become an employee also gives the power to the school, the player is now under the rule of an employee and has to take on that school's new rules. The ability to fine them, withhold pay, fire, and not have control of their own money or deals. Collective bargaining will also lead to less money for individual players, less say so who and how they do business, and limited business dealings. When you let schools collectively bargain then the money gets spread around and everyone, and I mean everyone gets a piece. And when you become a "Nike" school then you limit the players from signing any deals with Adidas, reebok, etc. Joel is doing a lot of assuming and playing on the narrative that the school is in the best interest of the student when we have 50-plus years of evidence that they are in it for the money.
I would add another thing. Coaches and universities should be bound on their end as well. Coaches continue to jump from job to job looking for more money. I believe they must commit to contract length with no way out. And I believe that coaches should not be able to pull scholarships and push guys out with just cause. And the fact that a player just didn't turn out to be as good as they thought, is not a good reason. Evaluation of talent and potential falls on the coaching staff. Just because you can't properly evaluate talent, is not the responsibility of the athlete. The player has to hold up their end of the bargain by going to practice, meetings and maintaining their class schedule and grades to a minimum standard. Coaches, universities and players all bound together.
The hardship waiver should only be for major family illness. Its too easy to claim hardships for any reason now. Graduate and Coaching changes=immediate transfer eligibility. Otherwise needs to sit out a year, shouldn't be eligible for NIL for the first year after a transfer as well. That can stop a lot of tampering.
Folks we ain’t “goin back to,” so drop those ideas.
Pay all the players their fair share and stop all this NIL wackiness. In all pro sports in the U.S., the players basically get 50% of the league's revenue. Do the same for college. Oh and any restraints you put on the players should also be put on coaches too.
I have a fix... make them sit out a year and they lose a year of eligibility.... oh wait, that's how it use to work.
Well that was before NIL. Players ain’t gonna make money or get sponsors if they are not playing or sitting out lmao
Sounds good
A non compete for an amateur sport won’t work. Won’t hold in court, plus general students aren’t treated this way. A band member who transfers isn’t barred from playing for a year. The ncaa would need to salary players directly for something like this to work
Easy answer is if they do not participate or attend team events for the entire season they should have to repay scholorships for the time spent at the school. The school honors their end of the contract, so should the players.
NIL for upperclassmen only and transfers don’t get paid until their second year in the new program.
You can only transfer once and must be at least after the players 2nd/Sophomore year.
Then athletic scholarships should be guaranteed regardless.for two years.
Why not turn scholarships into De facto contracts, you have 1 year scholarships 2 year, 3 year 4 year etc. and you cannot transfer when on scholarship unless certain parameters occur like losing a coach, program changes or something of that nature. NIL could also stipulate something in there.
We should do the same for college head coaches as well. They jump ship relatively quickly.
@@Vichinsky-ox8px Technically they do have a contract, the issue being that those contracts have ways out.
@ryantodd7483 Their is no punishment for leaving and it's too easy no to honor your commitment.
JoelKlatt&Colin should combine there podcast Once a week for this playoffs
The easiest fix is to stop it all together...All you're teaching kids these days, if you don't like what's going on, quit, don't work harder, don't have a talk with the coach, just be a quitter and never learn any life lessons.