What's My Line? - Melina Mercouri; PANEL: Martin Gabel, Barbara Feldon (Jun 11, 1967)
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- MYSTERY GUEST: Melina Mercouri
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Martin Gabel, Barbara Feldon, Bennett Cerf
NOTE: The following week's program is considered lost (Jun 18, 1967).
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What a joy to see Barbara Feldon on the panel! I loved her as Agent 99! I remember we used to describe her hairstyle as a "Cleopatra".
Would you believe I'm in love with 99? She's adorable, as is her voice and laugh.
Ms. Barbara Feldon is still with us !!
With all due respect to Ms. Feldon, her GET SMART character of Agent 99 struck me as being little more than a "piece of furniture"!
Yes, she was great as agent 99
Would you believe I had a crush on Barbara Feldon?
I'm 65 years old and I still have a crush on Barbra. Loved her hairstyle.
Kelly Lange became the first female newscaster in Los Angeles. She is. also a famed mystery writer.
Melina Mercouri is SO charming!
This is probably Barbara Feldon's second appearance on the show. On May 12, 1957, the Ziegfeld Girls were the first MG. Their "leader", or at least the one who was seated while the others stood behind her, was identified as Barbara Hall. That was Barbara Feldon's name at the time; she took the surname Feldon when she got married the following year. The resemblance between Barbara Hall and Barbara Feldon is striking, leading some of us to believe that they were one and the same.
yes! i saw that one! it's definitely her- fascinating I wonder if anyone else was ever both a panelist and a guest?
@@carebohe This is the only situation where an arguably regular contestant became a panelist. But because the Ziegfeld Girls were treated as a mystery guest, it could be said that she wasn't a regular contestant. As for me, my long time love affair (alas, totally imaginary) with Barbara Feldon makes me want to believe that, because she wasn't THE mystery guest, she has the distinction of being the only person to be a regular contestant and later a panelist.
@@mikejschin i think it counts! she was clearly chosen out of all the girls as the spokesperson, so i'd say that makes her the contestant- because she was answering most of the queries from her own perspective, not for the whole group because the panel didn't know anyone else was there!
@@carebohe I'll buy that.
I really miss the presence and great intelligence of Doroth
A BARNSLEY lad!!!!! I never knew anyone from my home appeared on WML :)) Thank you.
For the first contestant John is back with his old, familiar, "Will you enter and sign in, please". 2:54
Then he uses the odd version for the second and third contestants, "Will you sign in after you have entered, please". 8:16 and, "Will you sign in after you have come in and entered and gone up to the board, please". 20:57
Johan Bengtsson That last one, "Will you sign in after you have come in and entered ...and gone up to the board, please," was so awkward it made me laugh out loud!
WTF ???????
I always loved Barbara Feldon. Her voice was like velvet. It looks like she's wearing a maternity dress here.
As to your last comment: I thought that, too! But, according to her IMDB profile, apparently not. Her divorce from Lucien Verdoux-Feldon was finalized on 21 April 1967, and she wouldn't move in with Burt Nodella until the following year.
By the way: She was also a big-money winner on "The $64,000 Question" back in 1957 - answering questions about Shakespeare.
Barbara Feldon never had children. As far as the dress, those tent style dresses were in fashion at the time. The first challenger also wears one.
OMG Barbara Feldon! When I was a kid I thought she was insanely hot. And looking back I see that I was right.
jec1ny not only physically, but I also loved her voice. She did a advert for some men's fragrance around this time (it was named, 'Top Brass'; th-cam.com/video/fy33kNEIwgw/w-d-xo.html), which was seen by a lot of people, and if I'm correct, it was due to the great response which it recieved, that it led to her co-starring on Get Smart.
She wasn’t that good an actor
Miss Lange went on to have a stellar career in broadcasting. LA's 1st female Anchor
I believe Ms Lange hosted a short-lived talk show called 'Take My Advice ' for NBC in the 70s.
She was on the NBC team of super stars at the time including Tom Snyder, Brian Gumbel and Kelly Lange. I may have missed someone. It was a hugely talented team!
The last time Melina Mercouri came on this show in 1962, an intruder interrupted the proceedings.
Wikipedia seems to indicate it was this episode, but they've been wrong before.
By this point in her life and career, Melina Mercouri was now married to American movie director Jules Dassin.
Originally, Dassin was based here in America, and when he was based here in America, his most famous picture was the Noir classic "The Naked City", which inspired the TV show of the same name. But then he was blacklisted (not unlike Louis Untermeyer, former WML panelist), and he moved to Europe.
In 1955, he met Melina Mercouri, and during his new career as an American filmmaker based in Europe, he continued to make criticially and commercially successful movies, most of which featured Mercouri, including "He Who Must Die","The Law", "Phaedra", "Topkapi", "10:30 P.M. Summer", "The Promise at Dawn", "A Dream of Passion", and, the most famous of all, "Never on Sunday".
Mercouri married Dassin in 1966, a marriage that lasted until her death in 1994. Dassin died in 2008.
"Thumb up" (I don't know why it never works when I use the thumb-symbol?)
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Do you know what the film was that he went to Jerusalem for, and whether or not he ever ended up making it? (20:07 -- Melina talks about her hopes for a "big, big and important film"; at 19:13 Martin mentions that he was on his way to Jerusalem with Irwin Shaw.)
SaveThe TPC Double-checking Jules Dassin's filmography on IMDB,it sounds like it was "Survival 1967", which Mercouri was not in.
www.imdb.com/title/tt0205997/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_6
And yes, Joe Dassin was Jules' son, who died at 41 in 1980.
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Thanks, Vahan. I found a bit more info. about the film here: www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/498517/Survival-1967/. Apparently Irwin Shaw was the screenwriter. (Please note that I edited my comment after reading the credits more carefully.) Sad about his son.
Kelly Lange has left broadcasting, and is 77 years old. She is now a novelist.
*I love Barbara Feldon's haircut!*
I want more of Miss Watmore!
I hope Jerry is still with us, what a gorgeous woman.❤
Tonight, Ms. Mercouri signed her name apparently in English. In October 1962, she signed her name in Greecian. Fortunately, some guy with a commercial did not follow her in.
In Greecian? What formula did she use...I hope it was not #9 again. That's so old!
@@MrJoeybabe25 Greecian is old as that is a description of an ancient letters. But GREEK is still alive and thriving LOLLL
Arlene a radio personality in the morning on WOR in NYC and all of the others seem to have forgotten radio. 1967 was not a good year for big time radio. It marked the last broadcast of Art Linkletter's House Party on CBS Radio (it continued on television).
Kelly Lange will sometimes return to New York as a guest co-host of the NBC late night show Tomorrow with Tom Snyder and subbing for Jane Pauley on The Today Show
Melina was a very charming women, intelligent and talented.
I think this is the only episode of WML where John is shown about to stand up as the show is ending. Every other episode the camera cuts away with John still seated and smiling
This is true but it seems to be unintentional. It appears to me that he sat as he always did at the end of the show and mistakenly thought that the camera had already cut away from him when he stood up.
Captivating observations
I had the biggest crush on Barbara back in the day. Loved her hair style.
11:40 Kelly Lange cheekily calls Barbara Feldon "99."
And Barbara just ignores it.
The list of WML guest panelists through June 1967 who area still living as of 2020 are Woody Allen, Paul Anka, Joanna Barnes, Harry Belafonte, Jeannie Carson, Dick Cavett, Joan Collins, Anne Douglas, Barbara Feldon, Jane Fonda, Anita Gillette, George Hamilton, Jack Jones, Aliza Kashi, Steve Lawrence, Michele Lee, Pia Lindstrom, Sue Oakland, Mort Sahl, William Shatner, Marlo Thomas, Pamela Tiffin, Dick Van Dyke, Betty White.
We lost Betty last Dec. 31, 2021, at 99. We lost Pamela Tiffin on Dec. 2, 2020, at 78. First time I've seen Barbara F on the WML: panel! She was 34 then, celebrated her 89th this past Mar. 12 (2022). Hard to believe she was 32 when Get Smart premiered in Sep. 1965. She told TV Guide she was 24, with a 1941 birth year, but she fudged her age by 8 years, born in 1933. She still looked younger than 32 when GS premiered!
They should of had Don Adams as the Secret guest
That’s exactly what I was thinking
That would've been hilarious.
Interesting that Melina Mercouri's husband was headed to Israel. The day before this episode, the six-day Israeli-Arab war had come to an end. Though the war was huge news at the time, WML maintained its feel-good nature by not talking about it. I believe that was the right call: people watched this show (just as we do now) to be entertained. There were plenty of places to go to hear about unpleasant current events.
I loved Get Smart 😁
Is this the same Kelly Lange who went on to become one of the lead anchors of local news in Los Angeles through the 1990s?
+gero guy The very same. You can check out her info on wikipedia.
First woman to be a nightly news anchor in Los Angeles. KNBC-TV/KCBS-TV
Tournament of Roses parade co-host
December 14, 1937 (age 78)
The play "Illya Darling", which Jules Dassin directed, was based on "Never on Sunday".
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Was that the same play for which a recent WML contestant was the orchestra conductor?
SaveThe TPC Yes.
SaveThe TPC In the early days, did WML ever have a live band?
It had a nice run of 320 shows and would run until 1968,
@@MrJoeybabe25 I don't believe it had a live band, although lots of early game shows did make use of live musicians.
I Just got done watching this episode (which, as usual, I enjoyed), and I will never understand why did GSN skip it in 2008 (this airing is from 2004). I did not see ANYTHING that could have given GSN the idea to skip this episode in 2008.
Get a life
Vahan Nisanian I'll respond properly to your point. It could be visual quality. This was a particularly blurred one.
11:33
Barbra Feldon: Ah, in performing your service, do you perform this service for a number of people at one time?
Kelly Lange: Yes, Ninety-nine.
+kenp3L Ha! :)
Nor did the audience react. The cone of silence must have been lowered.
Can someone explain this joke for me please? I don't understand!
eden express Barbara Feldon was “Agent 99”
@@loissimmons6558 they missed it by that much.
Melina Mercouri starred in the film "Never On Sunday" in 1960. However...oh never mind!
Damn. Barbara Feldon was one foxy lady
Melina Mercouri looks much better in this appearance than she did previously. Perhaps she had (at least temporarily) given up smoking. She appears to be quite a bit younger, and more and fresh-of-face.
+519DJW She was a fanatic, maniac smoker. If she had to be remembered for something in her appearance, that would be her holding a cigarette. In fact, that is what finally killed her, sadly. (I think I had read an interview where she admitted that she loved smoking even if that would sometime be the death of her.)
Too bad G-T did not spring for a half dozen color videotapes in the archive. It would be interesting to know how Barbara Feldon's gown registered in color TV. Arlene's and Melina's, too.
I love the class of these people. No one dresses like that anymore. Especially the guys.
YES !!! Especially the sloppy men in sloppy shorts.
On certain formal occasions men and women still dress up, as at formal dinners, weddings, and the symphony. However, you are correct in that a TV appearance is not regarded as an event automatically deserving of formal attire. Regards.
They need to bottom line. Especially for events like that.
Yesterday was Barbara Feldon's birthday! She is still with us at age 82 or 83 (depending on when you believe what year she was born - 1932 or 1933)
If WML had gone out to California in 1972, Kelly Lange might have been a semi-regular panelist.
Arlene was so smart!
Was expecting a sly remark from Arlene about the "old" line from John.
Why didn't the young ladies 1st & 2nd get wolf whistles. They deserved it and I wonder if they'd take that as an insult? "Didn't I look good enough?"
Wow, the only time I remember when John didn't stand to see-off a contestant. (soccer player)
I've noticed a diminution of wolf whistles in recent weeks, especially for attractive non-celebrity challengers. Perhaps it was the beginning of the times changing so that now we get many posts on this channel decrying that practice.
Last contestant. Very much shape of things to come.
soulierinvestments I'm intrigued. What do you mean? Do I detect a distaste for Northerners??
Hal Simms fills in Johnny Olson.
This was a live episode, despite no mention of such a thing. Otherwise, the announcer would have said "Tonight's episode was pre-recorded".
nope. future "the edge of night" announcer hal simms. this is simms' foist announcing of "whats my line?" since 1961
***** Sorry guys. I spoke too soon.
I fixed it.
lol that hokay. good episode tho
Hal always had the most cultured tone and inflection as an announcer. Still good at it tonight.
soulierinvestments Where was Johnny?
16.06. "Dawn 'o' Day" .what my mother used to call me
John is beginning to show his age here, as, sadly, we all do
Melina Mercouri seemed to have signed her name in English.
The last time she signed in, the "Rs" in her last name were "Ps", which was her Greek spelling.
Perhaps one should say that in the Greek alphabet, the letter shaped more or less like our English P is the letter rho, and is pronounced as an r.
Ανδρέας Παπανδρέου
Gee willikers, in 1967 (maybe even now) you could told the panel he was a pro soccer player and they wouldn't have gotten it...overstatement acknowledged). In 1967 it must have been invisible (this was some years before Pele' came to America and gave the sport a brief buff up).
1967 was also the first year of the North American Soccer League. It originally had a Chicago team, too - the Chicago Mustangs. (This was, of course, before the "glory decades" of the 1970s and the 1980s for the NASL, featuring the New York Cosmos and the Chicago Sting, among other teams.)
It's still invisible in America. It has had publicity, good and bad, from time to time. but as a sport Americans are just not into it. There's no excitement to watch a game for two hours then have it end in a 0-0 tie if not by kick-off scoring.
Very surprised John ruled that watching a soccer game provides people with something "useful". It's entertainment.
WML tended to be as inconsistent on that definition as they were inaccurate on biology. It was a relatively minor flaw in an otherwise excellent and entertaining program.
It seems like a lot of 1960's TV stars were never on the (original) show: Cast of Get Smart, Gilligan's Island, Beverly Hillbillies, etc. Was that because they were on rival networks?
I only knew the name of Melina Mercouri as a singer.
She was a woman of many talents. Many Europeans probably associate her name with politics rather than entertainment. She was a notable figure in European politics for decades. She became politically engaged after the coup d'état in Greece, just a few weeks before this appearance on WML. When the military junta collapsed in 1974, she moved back to Greece to become a full time politician. She became a member of the Greek parliament in 1977, and held the position as minister of culture for many years, 1981-89 and again from 1993 until her death in 1994.
Steff2929again And she was famous for saying
"I was born a Greek and I will die a Greek. Mr. Pattakos was born a fascist and he will die a fascist."
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She minced no words. "The American Melodrama" said that she used to slap people who disagreed with her politically. [;^>) That would be refreshing in Congress.
Didn't Kelly Lange become a popular TV newscaster in LA?
Yes, Kelly Lange went on to become, for approximately 30 years, a news anchor at KNBC Los Angeles for most of those years. And then same for KCBS in the latter couple of years.
the 18th and final year, i think there were 11 shows left, they already knew wml was being cancelled sept 3.
The dresses are a lot shorter during this series as opposed to the long flowing frocks of the 1950's. I'm not complaining though
Surprised there wasn't a guy backstage talking into his shoe phone! #SorryAboutThatChief
Great remark..
What a bizarre episode! The whale trainer was said to deal in a product as well as a service ... but that's misleading because she wasn't selling or supplying whales to anyone, for instance raising them for other aquariums. Just because there is a physical item used in the service, that doesn't make it a product; otherwise we'd have to consider the soccer ball used by the last contestant a product. And how did John and Kelly Lange get away with giving "yes" answers to clothing and/or jewelry? Even if she wore something like a flight suit while in the helicopter for comfort or safety, that's so incidental to radio broadcasting as to be misleading with respect to the service. I intended to watch this episode to calm down after a rough day, but found myself so annoyed by these strange answers that it didn't have the intended effect.
+Neil Midkiff
I can let them slide on the first contestant vis a vis dealing in a product because it is consistent with how they presented similar situations in the past.
I was also scratching my head during the second segment related to clothing and/or jewelry and there never was an explanation of what that meant. The only thing I could think of, and it would be extremely tangential was that the sponsor for the traffic reports was either a clothing store or a jewelry store.
It turned out that the explanation was different. As part of the sexploitation novelty gimmick of two female helicopter traffic reporters (they were not the pilots), "Dawn and Eve O'Day" wore silver lamé jumpsuits.
But it worked out well for Kelly Lange. She would become a co-anchor of the news at NBC's local station in L.A. Not bad for a fashion model who got on line at a shopping center thinking that they were giving something away. She was also the most frequent co-host of the Rose Bowl Parade (often with Michael Landon). According to TV Guide, she was the first local newscaster to be paid more than $1 million per year. Note: not the first female, the first male or female.
@@loissimmons6558 Thanks for filling in the story about Kelly Lange! I still think the answers were misleading, but at least they're not inexplicable. I've just started my third sequential viewing of these episodes, and am catching up with helpful and interesting comments that you left a couple of years ago on some of the 1950 shows, so our mutual admiration and annotation society is continuing.
+Neil Midkiff
Third time through? Wow! I'm just finishing my first go round and I'm not sure if I will immediately go back to the beginning and start again. That feels kind of like the never ending task of painting the Golden Gate Bridge.
I only watch one episode a day, usually while eating dinner. And sometimes, like when I don't eat dinner at home, I miss a day.
Somewhere a William Shatner imitator is saying, "TH-cam, the final frontier: this is the voyage of the good ship What's My Line; its three year mission ..."
@@loissimmons6558 I live only 42 miles south of the Golden Gate Bridge, so celebrating the achievements of an earlier generation of Californians comes naturally to me. I grew up in the Midwest, but came to the Bay Area in the late 1970s for graduate studies and feel as though Silicon Valley is home now. Fortunately my mother and brother are Californians now too, so family and professional ties are not in conflict.
+Neil Midkiff
I could have chosen any long bridge with a large surface area to paint, but I used the Golden Gate because I remembered earlier posts that connected you with the Bay Area. I was using it only as an example of a project that once one gets to the end one immediately goes back to the beginning and starts over again.
BTW, as one who began college as an engineering major with the intent of becoming a civil engineer with an emphasis on roads, rail systems and urban planning, I love bridges and marvel at the amazing engineering work that it took to build the Golden Gate, a bridge that many experts claimed would be impossible to build. I had the good fortune to cross it once, as part of a tour of SF in June 1981. I saw two other engineering marvels on that extended trip: the Pacific Coast Highway (CA Route 1) from SF to Santa Barbara and Hearst Castle in San Simeon.
I've loved this show since I was old enough to watch it. Just a weird comment. John Daly had one of the strangest hair styles in television. I've noticed that on more than one occasion, his hair was more than slightly mussed up, as on this episode. There was no one on staff during a break, commercial, to fix that hair?
America's got talent
I've always wondered what he looked like when he woke up in the morning.
At the end of the show, before the credits, John Daly rises from his seat. Is he trying out a new format?
I think he just doesn't give a anymore!
Arliene knew not to say whale after she was wrong on her questions.
Moshe Dayan (Kitaigorodsky) as a mystery guest. Wow. There's a thought to give pause. Too bad when deGaulle visited the UN that the production staff did not get him as a mystery guest. Too bad when Nitika Khrushchev was in the USA and at the UN in 1959 and 1960 that WML didn't get him as a mystery guest.
Imagine French president Charles de Gaulle enter and sign in and then give his answers only with 'oui' and 'non'. That would have been something!
We shouldn't be too hard on the memory of The Old General. After all, as he himself admitted, it is hard to run a country that has 213 different types of cheese.
soulierinvestments He is one of my favorite leaders from the '50s along with Harold MacMillan. :)
Johan Bengtsson Better than Franco?
Joe Postove Weren't they all?
I don’t know in what season John started flipping all the cards over, but he did.
Arliene always dressed like she was going to a ball.
Gee..someone could have given old Hal Simms a nod after 6 years being away from the show.
@@loissimmons6558 Hi 2 years later!
@@MrJoeybabe25 Hi guy!
@@loissimmons109 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Geoff "Sidebottom"??..........oh dear..
Η αθανατη Μελινα μας
Seattle in the house!
Kelly Lange was a hottie
How is training whales a "sport" or provides a "product"? What do clothing abd jewelry have to do with helicopter radio traffic reorts?
I like the idea of Moshe Dayan being on the show
......Peace in Israel. Israel is a nation.... I love that she said that! ❤
Why did Melina Mecouri have to check with John as to whether she was a man? Very strange.
Bennett was surprisingly snotty on this episode.
Is Geoff Sidebottom related to Geoff Flushbottom, of the Bronx Flushbottom's?
No, but he is second cousin to Lord and Lady Plushbottom who live on Wump Street in Moon Mullins.
Sickos
What's up with John Daly? He's been tripping over his words for longer than I can remember. Listen to him at 21:00
Melina Mercouri and her husband had to leave Greece for some years due to a right wing military coup in April of 1967/ Why her husband, Jules Dassin, was headed to Jerusalem at this time (end of the 6 day war) of all times is beyond me. It was not the most propitious time to be in Israel, the smoke not having cleared.
+Joe Postove After World War II and the horrible extormination of six million Jews, those of them who were not killed but managed to survive, kind of felt guilt. Dassin fled to Israel during this war led by this feeling I guess. What is extraordinary though, is that he even lied to his beloved Melina in order to leave.
Except that Jules Dassin was American-born, and he spent World War II in Hollywood, directing "B" features at MGM. He was, indeed, Jewish (one of 8 children, I think).
Heck, American operatic tenor Richard Tucker also went to Israel shortly after the end of the 6-Day War - and he sang near some of the "hottest" spots then, in fulfilling engagements which he had already been contracted to sing months before.
They went to show solidarity with their fellow Jews; to me, that's the short of it.
Melina Mercouri was already in the U.S. for the production of Ilya Darling when the Greek dictatorship began. She then began her activism. The colonels revoked her Greek citizenship and declared her persona non grata. It was not the reason she went to the U.S., but it was the reason she remained abroad - subsequently in France until the dictatorship ended in 1974.
where's johnny olsen?
Not sure but Hal Simms was still around to fill in.
What year was Barbara Felton on as zigfield girl?
1957, 10 years before her appearance as a panelist.
Why so hazy focus?
Wowsers, that (9:01)'s the former NBC local 'biggie' (Ms Kelly Lang). I sight know what she did after leaving TV (I won't bother to say 'news', nor 'reporting'), but she's become a mystery book author (th-cam.com/video/FZ8a_J3gn60/w-d-xo.html).
Killer whales are NOT properly whales. Orcas are a type of dolphin. Constant misuse seems to set words in granite. Like referring to the Pennsylvania "Dutch" who are not Dutch. It was a mispronounciation of "Deutsch" which is German for German.
Like calling the United States a democracy when it’s really a Constitutional Republic. The president even does this. Most people don’t think on their own, very impressionable 😢
You are so correct..
Dinahbrown..,
Most people Don't think
On their own. It's incredibly worse today with the abundance of
"Smart phones " & stupid. People.
@@dcasper8514 We live among insanity
Her parents must of wanted a boy naming her Jerry. 🤦
A Girl Named Jerry, modeled after A Boy Named Sue (Johnny Cash). Now, either name can be either gender, anytime they feel like it!
Cerf always hogs the conversation with the mystery guests after the reveal. Tries to maximize his camera time and prove what he knows. Ham
Whales are not products. I think John is wrong here.
Melina Mercouri's husband talking to Israel they need talking to again.
Game #2: it's annoying, from a 21st century perspective, to see how attached the panel is to the idea that a beautiful woman can only exhibit clothes or jewelry or perform jobs directly connected to her physical appearance. They simply can't move past that that.
I’ve always thought Bennett is mouthy.
Those legs tho (Dawn O’Day)
the helicopter woman raised her skirt at arelene,why? like saying: you didn?t like my miniskirt?
Get a life6
Arlene laughed so what she said was all in good fun.
Melina Mercouri in her activist-actress period. Eventually she was elected to the Parliament of Greece and eventually became a Cabinet Minister in the Government of Greece. She was known to slap people who disagreed with her on politics -- [;^>) something you sometimes wish Hilary Clinton or Diane Feinstein would do. About this time, Robert Kennedy was dithering over whether he should run for the Presidency opposing Lyndon Johnson. Melina and he found themselves attending the same function one night. She swept up to him and said, according to "The American Melodrama: the presidential campaign of 1968," "You don't want to be remembered as the man who waited too long, do you?" One way or another Kennedy DID wait too long.
Why did they spend the first 5 minutes introducing each other over solicitously. And then "may I present the panel". And then the host's "conferences" after each of the generic questions. Gimma a break! TTTT was much better; they didn't do any of that
Am I alone in this, thinking that that while Melina Mercouri had an interesting look, she was not that attractive (except, I guess to Italians)?
You are not alone.
+Joe Postove You're alone.
And she was Greek, not Italian.
How American you are
2%
Hater Hater. See u later