I've had my Ursus 45 for about a year and a half at this point. Two summers of camping hiking, adventure motorcycling, and Jeeping and it has been my go-to belt knife the whole time. Comfortable, capable, reliable, no drama. It just works without fuss or bother. That is the win right there. If I am headed away from cell service it is with me, be stupid not to have it. I have a few other fixed blades and it isn't the knife I send beginners to, but this is the last one I think I'll need.
My wife bought me this as a gift last year and it has became my favorite piece in my collection. I originally hinted to her on their firecraft 4 knife but she said she liked the looks of this one better and I’m sooo glad she did! This knife has everything i look for in a fixed blade for my use!
Own the DLT exclusive Ursus 45 in 3V and have been wondering the same thing. It's a killer package with the super nice sheath and fire steel, but don't see much talk about them for whatever reason. Glad to see it featured here.
I bought mine about one month before you did this video and got it for around $200. When you consider the price of a TOPS or Essee, now usually just around $180 for 1095 steel, it's worth it. It's a great value. Like you said, the sheath alone is great quality and well thought out in design. Essee and White River both have the same warranty except I'm not sure whether White River has the "no questions asked" part.
I have had an Ursus 45 for 5 years now and love it. Their S35VN heat treat seems spot on. Thick stock steel with a good high grind and good handle design make it a great multipurpose knife. I got it as a deer knife to replace a knife in S30V. The S35VN seems to tolerate incidental bone contact better and seems a bit more steel and strop friendly.
The most I have ever spent on a knife was $200, and maybe a little more. And I never use those knives because there is too much of a risk of losing one or having it get scratched up and damaged. I have learned that when things are expensive or uncomfortable / heavy, they are often the last things I will reach for.
I would say this is the primary reason this knife isn't some viral knife. You need to get a knife in the sub $100 range so that the average person can buy it and feel comfortable beating the crap out of it daily or it is a show piece.
I think White River knives are overlooked and I’m not sure why either. They always produce high-quality craftsmanship and functional knives. I have the backpacker from White River and it’s the most comfortable knife that I’ve ever held. Thanks for sharing your review.
For women the thickness of the grip is important. Don’t forget to include us!! I like the thinner grip for my hand. It makes it a bit complicated when you can’t hold one before buying. More online time to search out affordable options and brands. Thank you for considering including women in reviews in future videos
Own the 3V version as well with the black blade variant. It’s hard to convey just how good it feels in the hand. I was fortunate to get mine at blade show for $175 and it’s been nothing but spectacular.
Bro!!! So glad you finally got this knife and reviewed it. I got the layered green/black handled version with the traditional leather sheath from Sportsman’s a few years back and still love it everyday despite it not being kydex. The ergos are phenomenal as I think white river designs their handles, in general, to fit the hand very well. Also, I love the fact that the spine corners are knocked down just a touch near the handle for your thumb placement and out by the tip it’s sharper for striking. It’s probably one of my favorites, if not my favorite general all purpose fixed knife of all time for the outdoors. S35VN and their heat treat is fantastic, it’s very well rounded and easy to put an edge back on. The stone wash is gorgeous as well. Loyal to mine for sure. I take it camping with me to the San Juans and Sangre de Cristos every year. Still love my Kuhl Burr jacket you reviewed a while back. Thanks bro!
Let's all take a moment to appreciate a knife review that ACTUALLY SAYS the cost!!! I block all channels that don't. Stumbled on this. Subbing, for transparency.
simplistic workhorses are the backbone of utility tools. I would rather have a capable "boring" design, than something with a lot of flash, and no bang. there is a good reason that basic spear point designs never stop showing up. the only S35 blade I have so far is an Alan Folts made minimalist. while I do really like that knife, it is a 2.875 Persian blade necker, so not really suited for hard use testing. This is a very good size and blade shape for belt carry. this is a size that I tend to gravitate to for my belt carry. larger knives tend to wind up in my pack, to pull out when it is required, but so many of the day to day use tasks the 4-5" blade is more than enough. this does look like a really solid option.
Great review.... I have a big crush on this knife... The craftsmenship and the attention to design details is very good. That knife also has a rounded spine near the handle for just over an inch that transitions to a 90° for striking ferro rods... Just very well thought out. FYI - They have a new smaller version of this model, called the Ursus Cub. I think it is in Magnacut... If have some thinking to do....
S35vn is the perfect stainless field knife steel, in my opinion. Holds an edge, but it'd not hard to put it back if you do lose it, and it responds to a strop really well.
I'm glad you love the Ursus 45 as much as I do. I have the DLT exclusive in 3V and loved it so much that immediately bought one for my brother and his kids to use on their hikes. It's the complete package right out of the box (not to mention that box that it comes in is A+ presentation!) with dangler sheath and fire steel. A small detail that I love is the angled sharpening choil so things slide up onto the edge instead of getting caught there when cutting. This is easily in my top 5 belt knives and my go-to recommendation for a more premium USA made hiking companion knife.
I'm not exactly surprised people aren't talking about it. It reminds me of the Lionsteel m5 but that's about $100 cheaper or the QSP Bison for about $170 less. You also have the Esee 4 at around 150. For a knife to get talked about it needs to exceed expectations in some way and at the price point just being a good knife isn't wooing most people.
G'day mate, fair comment. Though not sure, at last look anyway, the M5 is that much cheaper here in oz, or the ESEEs, for that matter, but still, point well taken. Cheers Duke.
@@eyeofthetiger4184 That's completely fair I have no idea what the situation looks like overseas those were just as a US buyer because that's what I am. If that's not the case elsewhere then there might be some other factor keeping this knife out of the spotlight.
@@gnomersy1087 Thanks for the reply mate. FYI; we do have access locally to the fair majority of the good stuff you guys get, though at times I have had to order direct from the U.S, or Europe, to obtain a totally compelling piece of kit. But often, (in fairness, not always), the killer is shipping and/or currency conversion, ..... especially for an individual. As far as this particular knife goes, what can I say, other than the market is well and truly flooded....... yes a good thing in some respects, .......but does tend to "camouflage" some rippers, particularly from smaller enterprises. It must be pain in Aaron's, and other reviewer's, arses, to keep across, even a decent percentage, of them all, lol.
@@eyeofthetiger4184 Yes. As I mentioned, we are absolutely spoiled with excellent choices for knives. I love inexpensive Moras and some not so inexpensive customs I have. Not to mention some in between that range. It just depends on what you like.
I drove 300 kilometers to buy it, once there I was disappointed, for myself too small handle and ergonomics! In addition, the knife remained stuck in the sheath ! but very nice knife !! here in Québec is 340$ excellent review as usual ! thanks
I bought one at Sportsman’s Warehouse a little over a year ago and it was only 170. I carry this knife almost everyday. If I had an office job I probably wouldn’t edc this knife but I work for the forest service and use it everyday it’s on my belt. Mine came with a leather sheath that I made a dangler for. I find with most of my coworkers who have expensive knives, they don’t really use them due to them not truly knowing how to maintain there tools properly. I never go easy on any knife.
Funny because one the reasons why S35VN was done by crucible and Chris Reeve was to provide a slightly better performance of the steel compared to S30V. And that means that toughness should be better as well. But it depends on the HT, as always.
S30v vs s35vn with optimal heat treats, s35vn was designed to be significantly tougher then s30v. I personally love s30v and really don't care to much for s35vn as it just looses its aggression to quickly but that doesn't change the fact that s35vn is significantly tougher and less chippy then s30v. That is assuming equal quality of heat treat with both steels ran in their optimal hardness range. At 58-60hrc s35vn will be notably tougher in a hard use knife then s30v will as well as being notably quicker to touch up on the stones then s30v will be. WRKs absolutely made a better choice (I hate to say it) going with s35vn in this knife design then s30v. With the geometry and intended use case for this knife they would have been dealing with broken tips and chipped out edges if they had went s30v. For ask fantastic of a steel as well done s30v is for pocket knives and lighter duty fixed blades... it has no place in a knife like this with the type of uses these knives are typically used for. S35vn or s45vn is an ideal steel for this knife in a stainless version. Personally I really wish they would do it in cpm 440v/S60V and I would buy one in a heart beat.. s30v is a great steel and a damn good performer but not suited well for this type of knife with the use case it's designed to fill. Maybe they should make us a budget version of it for like 150 and do it in 14c28n or better yet 19c27 as a stainless option and 80crv2 as a nonstainless option!!! That would be a kickass 150 dollar Knife that would sell like wildfire spreads I bet!
I have two models from White River... 3" BackPacker original w/ paracord & 3.5" FireCraft w/ HI VIS green G-10... both in stonewashed S35VN steel. Fit, finish workmanship & all materials are very good. The little yet very precise design of the Backpacker is highly suitable for use on PFDs (life-vests) as a great knife rafting. Some might suggest a blunt tip, serrations, and marginal steel selections for such a river-ready tool... however... professionally, for all-rounder use, fish/game prep, rescue/recovery, crafting, first aid, and various repair tasks... all those crappy 'looks cool trendy' river knives are relatively junk by comparison. FireCraft is an interesting niche knife. If/when I'm going White River as a selection... I'll look at 'em for very specific more niche vs. general camp task knives. In other words = I would not select this Ursus, likely not s35vn for steel choice, and especially at this sort of price point. I do feel it is quality with the attention to detail there, and a good company... just likely not the way I'd go, and would not view it as a go-to for most.
I guided whitewater for 16 years... I have the same opinion of the standard "river knife"... stopped using them when I lost my second Gerber River Shorty (even using the bread tie mod) in the NRG... (and screw serrations)... they were good at spreading mayo and mustard, though... :-)
Have two of them. I love these knives. Good geometry, good steel and a comfortable handle. I use it alongside with the White River Exodus. A great combination.
I have this knife and several others from White River. They are not cheap but the quality is there. The steel is one of my favorites and their sheathes are great and often come with a fire steel. I would like to get a few more of their knives and highly recomend them.😃
Have a few White River knives, mostly smaller (EDC/hiking knives). Thanks for taking the time with the Ursus 45. Been looking at it for some time now. Will be putting some thought into a budget and a possible acquisition. Thanks again.
Tried many knives for bushcraft. Esee's, Moras, Terava, Brisa, Becker, etc. This Ursus 45 is my knive now. I don't need another knife, this one is perfect for me. Perfect sheath too!
S35VN is an all around good choice for an outdoor workhouse. Years ago I fell for the 1095 ESEE trend and bought a couple. They simply dull too damn fast. Sure, super easy to bring the edge back, but I don't want to stop to do that in the middle of tasks. I love magnacut and cruwear as much as they next, but they're pretty steeply priced for a fixed blade. The price point for quality of this steel make it an ideal option. If I had extra money to blow, I'd get a magnacut fixed blade (do they even make one as beefy as that Ursus?)...but right now that extra money goes towards new guns and more ammo. If I were in the market for another fixed blade, I'd definitely give this one a shot. The handle is actually the selling point for me, with the dangler being a big bonus. They should all provide a dangler with kydex.
@@WoodsmanHobo777 That is in no way relevant. If people in the Neolithic era had Magnacut, do you think they'd say, "Naw, I'll stay with flint"?. Or how about the "Native Americans", did they just stick with stone tomahawks? Fuck no, they sold their soles for steel tomahawks and knives, then later muskets. That's the way of technology. And it was hundreds of thousands of years at a minimum, not just thousands. Run along back to the kids you half wit.
This is a great knife,egornomic ,effectiv, solid even if I m not a huge fan of s35vn ! I sold all my knives expect for 7 knives, 4 are customs design by me, for me made by blacksmith and knives maker ! The 3 others are a wildsteer skelet ,tops bob ,and a ursus.
I live very close to where these knives are made. Theres a local gun and knife show every couple months, and theres always a booth with a guy who gets a bunch of "blemish" models to sell for them. The "blemishes" are incredibly minor and they sell them at a huge discount. Last time i was there he had a dlc coated version of this knife that had a super small area that didnt get as thick of coating, and he was selling it for $185. Wish i would've picked it up.
I've been using this knife in camp for a couple years now But mine is in 3V and it's a fantastic knife. I love a knife that looks and works like a knife and thats what it does. Great Video.
I sharpen a huge amount of these for customers over the last 2 years and I have never been anything less then very impressed with them. Fantastic fit and finish, Fantastic heat treat, super tough considering the decently slicey geometry... I don't carry fixed blades but if I did I would 100% own one. Quiet possibly one of the very best 225-250 dollar camp and hard use outdoor fixie. I'm one that typically doesn't purchase any knife in s35vn as I just don't like it as a premium steel very much BUT it serves its purpose very well in this knife with the quality of heat treat that is being done. I end up doing a lot of 18 degree per side hand done lightly convex'ed edge bevels and have had a customer ask me to cut test the knife and put it thru its paces and I was very impressed with its edge life in a week long camping type use. That 36 inclusive light convex does a hell of a job holding up to batoning hardwoods and pines while still doing a pretty dang good job on food prep and general slicing. During that test we even cleaned a feral hogs that I took with a .45 cal air rifle. It did a great job field dressing, skinning and breaking down of the pig. It's the only knife I used that entire 8 days trip and the edge maintained a fully serviceable level of sharpness for the full time we was there and it did a significant amount of cutting. The only edge maintaining that was done was on a paddle strop I brought with 12 micron diamond emulsion on it and the knife was never dulled to thr point that 10 passes per side on the strop wouldn't bring it back to shaving. That speaks a heck of a lot to how good the heart treat is. Had that been an Esse in 1095 or a Beecker I would have NEVER been able to go that entire 8 days and the amount of cutting that knife did without having to take a pocket stone and put a fresh edge on it. In fact with the amount of cutting I did on well done 1095 I would say I would have had to touch the edge or 2 to 3 times on a stone in order to keep it being able to be brought back to shaving however this knife was able to be kept at a shaving level without any stone/ceramic rod touch ups. Cleaning that large of a hog and breaking all that mean down is hell on an edge and just a couple stropping passes and it came right back to easily shaving. This is one of few times that s35vn has actually impressed me as a steel, it wouldn't be my first choice in this knife BUT it's done well enough that I would still happily buy one. If they ever make this exact design but do it in 440v/s60v I will buy one on the spot even tho I don't really carry fixed blades unless I'm camping. This knife design is literally begging to be made in S60V (or m4) and would be one of the best production belt knives one could by if they did a run in that steel.
Very thorough review I must say... Can not believe that any steel can do that much without sharpening but I am fresh knife lover with lower level of blades in possession and maximum that i torture them is with fresh veal carving..
I own the White River Ursus45 (this knife), the caper, and the firecraft FC7. All are excellent and all feel amazing in the hand. White River does amazing work with S35VN. It’s all in the way it’s heat treated when it comes to this steel. Not cheap options, but they’ll last a lifetime. Hi h is good, as they carry a lifetime warranty.
I picked that one up about two years ago; great knife, great sheaths. It comes with a very sturdy leathersheath with a ferro rod loop aswell; both sheaths are great! Thanks for showing it, I've been wondering for a while now why nobody did :)
Great review of a beautiful knife. White River makes some nice stuff!!!! Just picked up a smaller fixed blade....L T Wright Bushcrafter that has a very similar shaped handle in Python Micarta...that comes with a beautiful Leather sheath...
Best knife I have since two years. Well balanced, not to big, fulfills every task and and cuts extremely well and the edge lasts long! Hard to beat in the field
For that much and it comes with a bottom of the barrel sheath! Enough reason for not purchasing... It's sad in this day in age a guy has to build a sheath to replace the crap that came with the blade...
@@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798 the sheath is great, what exactly do you have a problem with. I have had this knife in my hands and you are not correct on the sheath.
I love my Ursus 45. It is one of my top 2 knives for hiking and camping...The other one is my Lionsteel T5. However, unlike the T5, this knife has a very sharp spine and comes with a fire steel. This one has a Kydex sheath and the T5 has a leather one.
I've had both knives for over a year and they both are exactly what I expect from great knives. They came sharp out of the box and all I usually do is strop them to keep the blades sharp.@@kpfagerberg
I have this knife and 2 other white rivers. All their knives are superb. The model 1 is a great every day carry and i also have the hunter, its basic a smaller thinner version of the Ursus, the hunter is a great all around camp knife but is just a bit better in food prep than the monster Ursus
It looks VERY similar to my architect 5.5 from the Knife Connection (3V first production run, made by TOPS). Similar shape, handle and sheath. As you say and demonstrate, a great if simplistic design. Basically a bushcraft handle on a more typical survival/hunting blade. White River makes great knives, I have the M1 and it is a great EDC fixed blade! Those Bradfords are great too, I have the 3.5 and 5.5 in 3V. Good review!
Love this knife, the Ursus 45 is my favorite. I have a video on my channel about it and I show the best sheath mod for it, especially the older sheaths that seemed to be much, much tighter and im not talking about modifying the actual sheath itself. Its worth checking out lol.
1. excellent review. 2. I am no longer going out in the field. 3. I think the sheath is super. 4. Just looking at the video, I knew that the knife would be about $250. 5. Frankly, I would go with the Spartan fixed blade that you recently reviewed (I like the retention feature on that sheath) or even the discontinued Buck fixed blade (I found it and bought one) that you also reviewed. The reason is that it is highly remote that I will be out hiking and camping anymore. If someone were in his 20s, the blade would last a lifetime.
I think I'm coming around to the idea that what started as a malapropism ( "Simplistic", when what the presenter means is "simple" ), has now become a distinctive part of knife reviewer cultural vernacular, the way AAVE has "axe" in place of "ask" as a ligitimate dialect (not dialectical, that would be a similar malapropism that hasn't yet become culturaly recognized) variation. Call it KRVE, perhaps. It would also include unique words like "Jimping", and uses of "carry" and "deploy" with specific subcultural uses. Anyway this knife rocks, thanks for bringing it to our attention. A big win for simplicityisticalosityociousnessarityisticism in design. (I'm gonna try to make that one a thing.)
The price honestly is not bad for what you get. Properly ground, heated bushcraft knife with a tough CPM steel known for above average toughness for a vanadium rich stainless, and a nice kydex sheath
I have a Firecraft 3.5 and it’s a brute for such a small knife. Built like a tank. 🤙 love the quality from White River Knives. S35VN is my favorite knife steel.
I have this in CPM 3V, it's easily my favorite large knife. White River is the best. They seem to nail the heat treat with everything, I have 3 of their blades.
I broke the FC5 after a few batonnages, and the FC7 directly with the first batonnage on a small piece of wood. High saber grind leaving too little material behind the edge ? Heat treatment defect ? Limit of the S35VN ? S35VN & White River, no more for me.
I have nothing against White River, but I am squarely in the Bark River camp for most of my fixed blade knife desires these days. As for Magnacut, sure, it is a great steel innovation, but, personally, I would like to see more options toward S35VN or CPM 3V to get those same new designs at cheaper prices. Magnacut it *way* more expensive than most other steels just because it is so new.
I was looking at getting this knife right before the Reiff F6 came out and ended up going with that instead, but I have really liked the U45 for awhile and am still going to get it
Wow thats a great knife. Sad to see how many people have been impacted by unrealistic prices for things from China (slave labor with garbage QC and materials) that dont last. This aint one of those things It looks really close to a few knives Bark River does that I have eye balled before... is there any relationship between Bark River Knives and White River? Perhaps not but I think your right, this one really catches my eye. I have a few S35Vn knives, definitely harder to sharpen vs other steels. Not for people that arent very experienced at sharpening.
S35vn is great steel. But it just doesn’t feel like a great purchase in 2023. Magnacut is supposed to be reasonably priced. It’s basically the replacement for s35vn. White river knives are as nice as any custom. Hands down the nicest fit and finish. They just need to hurry up and make the switch.
Hello from Austria, I‘ve recently picked up an Ursus 45, awesome blade. Just a quick question, please: is the spine supposed to be really, really sharp? I’ve read it‘s supposed to be sharp to allow striking a ferrorod. But mine is super sharp, almost uncomfortable, with a tiny burr which I can feel on the edge of the spine with my fingernail. Is that within tolerance? I also own a Cub which is not as sharp on the spine. Also, I do not feel a burr on the Cub‘s spine. Thanks!
@@gideonstactical on mine, near the rear of the knife it was not ground properly or “square”. The fit of the handles leaves a hot spot the entire way around it.
S35VN is amazing. Its edge retention is unsurpased. My Benchmade 'bushcrafter' uses the same steel and is extremely similar to the one in your video. Its amazing.
No jimping! Kudos to White River. In my view any jimping falls into the category of useless fancy stuff. Where I would have liked a drop point (or even a clip point without a swedge) instead of this more spear point design it would not be a deal breaker. The handle really looks comfortable and I agree they often make handles to thin for prolonged use. Kydex sheath looks really good with the flat surface on the bottom so also good for carry in your backpack carry and I do appreciate a dangler. I would prefer a strong fabric belt loop because leather and hot or salt water don't go well together. I would sell the firesteel loop separately as an option but agree on the tension screw. They should add that feature although I don't carry knives tip up. It's always good to have a solid lock up of your knife in dense vegetation. The price I consider reasonable and would not be a deal breaker either. So this for me is a good option next time I visit the US. Since I'm in Europe I have to include p&p and 21% VAT so that makes it kinda expensive here.
@@gideonstactical The two were on the table in front of me, and I wanted something a little smaller for camping. I like the size and performance of the fc4, but often I wish I had a thicker grip. Also the bow drill hole on the fc4 began to bother me more than I thought it would. Kind of a bummer... I should have gone with the ursus.
Knife prices have gotten rediculous. Winkler knives dont seem so expensive now. Try and resell your knife on the used market and then youll see what that is actually worth.
how would you compare that knife vs the italian made one you reviewed the Lion steel blade, which is alot more money bigger blade but as far as performances/tasks.......
G'day Aaron, that is noiiiiiiice mate !!!!!, pretty much the perfect blade/package I reckon. Perhaps a fraction high on the sabre, but that's very much a nit pick. S35 is my fav for anything .... fixed or folding up to 6 in, ..... the sweet spot for price/performance/sharpening/corrosion resistance IMO. I can imagine it paired with a big fella, together with a folding saw, on the trail, ......... you'd be right as rain for any task, + be well covered in the back up department should one happen to be lost or fail. Btw: I'd be flipping the ferro loop 180 deg to make it right way up. Those other alternatives you showed ...... aint too shabby either ; ) Cheers Duke.
The knife is a tough sell, when you can get an ESEE 4 in S35VN for a little more than half the price of this one. OR A Kabar/Snody Big Boss in S35VN for 20% of the price of this knife. Both made in the USA.
S35vn is good, I have it in one if my Bushcraft knives and i also have M390 and 14C28N. Honestly at the end of the day it just depends on which knife i want to carry out in the field.
Ok so ursus 45 S35VN/3V or tops field craft BOB 154cm? Wait..... Or the Tops Brush Wolf? I want them all but just looking for a one knife to rule them all jic 💩 happens
Ursus 45, s35vn tends to have better edge or attention but 3V steel will be tougher, so depending on what you care about more will be the version to go with.
The whole package reminds me of the Survive! line of knives. I've got the 4.5, same alloy as your knife. Survive! has lately introduced some knives in magnacut. Does White River have any blades like that?
Great video! I love that knife too! My favorite EDC knife. Put an elk grip and a leather sheath for mine. Love your knife reviews. Keep up the great videos.
Definitely my type of knife, albeit on the short side..for me personally. Love the blade shape, great steel type which is extremely important to me, handle is great. Real kydex sheath is fabulous and helps justify the price. Fyi i prefer a finger choil and thinner handle @ the index finger for additional grip styles. Unlike you, i don't grip a knife (or stick etc) with my index finger, rather the last three fingers which gives freedom of movement and greater strength to my grip. Try it... It's unfortunate these days many many people fall for blade "gimmicks " ie. Holes in the blade, weird barely usable blade shapes, too thin stock, saw teeth. For alot of people flat ground, drop point blades are frankly boring... But, that is because they have been around forever, are iconic because they function fabulously. You might have guessed I'm old school. No school like old school lol.
$250 is quite a bit when you consider that I just ordered an ESEE-4 HM Kydex and the nylon molle backer/belt setup from the knife connection last night for $124 shipped. That is literally half the price for a very solid camp knife. (Which I know you already know and enjoy the ESEE-4 HM) Thanks for the good content and reviews. Godspeed
It costs literally the same as the ESO Knives in Europe which basically looking the same as that. I imagine in the USA, the price difference isn't big neither. So people choose the Brand they know and many people talking about, if they don't "collect knives". Personally, it doesn't has a leather sheet. ... So, there you've it.
I've had my Ursus 45 for about a year and a half at this point. Two summers of camping hiking, adventure motorcycling, and Jeeping and it has been my go-to belt knife the whole time. Comfortable, capable, reliable, no drama. It just works without fuss or bother. That is the win right there. If I am headed away from cell service it is with me, be stupid not to have it. I have a few other fixed blades and it isn't the knife I send beginners to, but this is the last one I think I'll need.
I recently picked up an Ursus 45 in 3V and can tell you that it quickly has become my favorite knife. A terrific package from sheath to blade.
My wife bought me this as a gift last year and it has became my favorite piece in my collection. I originally hinted to her on their firecraft 4 knife but she said she liked the looks of this one better and I’m sooo glad she did! This knife has everything i look for in a fixed blade for my use!
You married a unicorn. A, she bought you a knife. B, she got you a quality knife. C. She picked a great design. Way to go!
White River knives in general are awesome and totally underrated. I have the M1 and the hunter and absolutely love them
Awesome!! I am going to pick up some other designs soon.
Please do the Firecrafter series @@gideonstactical
I own six whiteriver 3 adventure craft and 1 adventure craft 4 and 2 fc3.5 pros and they r all awesome knives
You should check out the exdous knife and tool adventure craft it's made by white river knives
Own the DLT exclusive Ursus 45 in 3V and have been wondering the same thing. It's a killer package with the super nice sheath and fire steel, but don't see much talk about them for whatever reason. Glad to see it featured here.
Hang onto that blade bud! Hard to find the 3v!
@@737AMT Looks like they still have the cerakoted versions in 3V fwiw, though they're a little more expensive vs the sold out satin version.
It'd be a cool option for them to produce a 3V scandi version of the U45 imo
@@MaximumFatness Heck yeah. I'd buy one for sure. Love Scandi's
I have the 3V also, very nice
I bought mine about one month before you did this video and got it for around $200. When you consider the price of a TOPS or Essee, now usually just around $180 for 1095 steel, it's worth it. It's a great value. Like you said, the sheath alone is great quality and well thought out in design. Essee and White River both have the same warranty except I'm not sure whether White River has the "no questions asked" part.
I have had an Ursus 45 for 5 years now and love it. Their S35VN heat treat seems spot on. Thick stock steel with a good high grind and good handle design make it a great multipurpose knife. I got it as a deer knife to replace a knife in S30V. The S35VN seems to tolerate incidental bone contact better and seems a bit more steel and strop friendly.
Have you batoned little kindling with it? How has it held up?
It's on my to get list for sure. I have their Hunter, and it's a great edc fixed blade.
The most I have ever spent on a knife was $200, and maybe a little more. And I never use those knives because there is too much of a risk of losing one or having it get scratched up and damaged. I have learned that when things are expensive or uncomfortable / heavy, they are often the last things I will reach for.
I've had a bk16 for 10yrs that I use for everything. For a belt knife I'm not impressed for the price. It will fade away quickly.
I would say this is the primary reason this knife isn't some viral knife. You need to get a knife in the sub $100 range so that the average person can buy it and feel comfortable beating the crap out of it daily or it is a show piece.
Why’d you buy it you’re not gonna use it? I have several 3-500 knives that I’ve put through the ringer.
@@taphillips75 I have plenty of sub $100 knives for various uses. This $250 knife won't do anything extra my other knives won't do.
I have some fun knives that were high on price but its mora's that are in my bug out bags. Just got a pair of Odenwolf's. Same reason.
I think White River knives are overlooked and I’m not sure why either. They always produce high-quality craftsmanship and functional knives. I have the backpacker from White River and it’s the most comfortable knife that I’ve ever held. Thanks for sharing your review.
I've been toting a Hunter every chance I get, and it's a dandy edc knife. Very well made. I love the ergonomics, and the sheath is very good.
For women the thickness of the grip is important. Don’t forget to include us!! I like the thinner grip for my hand.
It makes it a bit complicated when you can’t hold one before buying. More online time to search out affordable options and brands. Thank you for considering including women in reviews in future videos
Own the 3V version as well with the black blade variant. It’s hard to convey just how good it feels in the hand. I was fortunate to get mine at blade show for $175 and it’s been nothing but spectacular.
You're lucky to have it in 3v!
Bro!!! So glad you finally got this knife and reviewed it. I got the layered green/black handled version with the traditional leather sheath from Sportsman’s a few years back and still love it everyday despite it not being kydex. The ergos are phenomenal as I think white river designs their handles, in general, to fit the hand very well. Also, I love the fact that the spine corners are knocked down just a touch near the handle for your thumb placement and out by the tip it’s sharper for striking. It’s probably one of my favorites, if not my favorite general all purpose fixed knife of all time for the outdoors. S35VN and their heat treat is fantastic, it’s very well rounded and easy to put an edge back on. The stone wash is gorgeous as well. Loyal to mine for sure. I take it camping with me to the San Juans and Sangre de Cristos every year. Still love my Kuhl Burr jacket you reviewed a while back. Thanks bro!
Also a good jacket!
Let's all take a moment to appreciate a knife review that ACTUALLY SAYS the cost!!!
I block all channels that don't. Stumbled on this. Subbing, for transparency.
Really appreciate it. I always give the cost and some other options in every video. Welcome to the GT Crew!
simplistic workhorses are the backbone of utility tools. I would rather have a capable "boring" design, than something with a lot of flash, and no bang. there is a good reason that basic spear point designs never stop showing up. the only S35 blade I have so far is an Alan Folts made minimalist. while I do really like that knife, it is a 2.875 Persian blade necker, so not really suited for hard use testing. This is a very good size and blade shape for belt carry. this is a size that I tend to gravitate to for my belt carry. larger knives tend to wind up in my pack, to pull out when it is required, but so many of the day to day use tasks the 4-5" blade is more than enough. this does look like a really solid option.
Great review.... I have a big crush on this knife... The craftsmenship and the attention to design details is very good. That knife also has a rounded spine near the handle for just over an inch that transitions to a 90° for striking ferro rods... Just very well thought out.
FYI - They have a new smaller version of this model, called the Ursus Cub. I think it is in Magnacut...
If have some thinking to do....
S35vn is the perfect stainless field knife steel, in my opinion. Holds an edge, but it'd not hard to put it back if you do lose it, and it responds to a strop really well.
Actually, that would be Magnacut
Magnacut is basically a better S35vn. Does almost everything better
@@Phaminator525not edge retention in my experience but yes impact toughness
I'm glad you love the Ursus 45 as much as I do. I have the DLT exclusive in 3V and loved it so much that immediately bought one for my brother and his kids to use on their hikes. It's the complete package right out of the box (not to mention that box that it comes in is A+ presentation!) with dangler sheath and fire steel. A small detail that I love is the angled sharpening choil so things slide up onto the edge instead of getting caught there when cutting. This is easily in my top 5 belt knives and my go-to recommendation for a more premium USA made hiking companion knife.
The detail about the choil is badly overlooked which is why i tend to avoid used knives where the owner added a sharpening choil.
I'm not exactly surprised people aren't talking about it. It reminds me of the Lionsteel m5 but that's about $100 cheaper or the QSP Bison for about $170 less. You also have the Esee 4 at around 150. For a knife to get talked about it needs to exceed expectations in some way and at the price point just being a good knife isn't wooing most people.
G'day mate, fair comment. Though not sure, at last look anyway, the M5 is that much cheaper here in oz, or the ESEEs, for that matter, but still, point well taken. Cheers Duke.
@@eyeofthetiger4184 That's completely fair I have no idea what the situation looks like overseas those were just as a US buyer because that's what I am. If that's not the case elsewhere then there might be some other factor keeping this knife out of the spotlight.
@@gnomersy1087 Thanks for the reply mate. FYI; we do have access locally to the fair majority of the good stuff you guys get, though at times I have had to order direct from the U.S, or Europe, to obtain a totally compelling piece of kit. But often, (in fairness, not always), the killer is shipping and/or currency conversion, ..... especially for an individual.
As far as this particular knife goes, what can I say, other than the market is well and truly flooded....... yes a good thing in some respects, .......but does tend to "camouflage" some rippers, particularly from smaller enterprises. It must be pain in Aaron's, and other reviewer's, arses, to keep across, even a decent percentage, of them all, lol.
@@eyeofthetiger4184 Yes. As I mentioned, we are absolutely spoiled with excellent choices for knives. I love inexpensive Moras and some not so inexpensive customs I have. Not to mention some in between that range. It just depends on what you like.
And what quality materials are the cheap knives made from? The better the materials and craftsmanship, the greater the price.
I drove 300 kilometers to buy it, once there I was disappointed, for myself too small handle and ergonomics! In addition, the knife remained stuck in the sheath ! but very nice knife !! here in Québec is 340$ excellent review as usual ! thanks
Oh man! I am sorry to hear that!!
@@gideonstactical thank you ! we can't like them all and i enjoyed the ride !!! on the other hand i liked more my "Nomad Joker "for $129"
I bought one at Sportsman’s Warehouse a little over a year ago and it was only 170. I carry this knife almost everyday. If I had an office job I probably wouldn’t edc this knife but I work for the forest service and use it everyday it’s on my belt. Mine came with a leather sheath that I made a dangler for. I find with most of my coworkers who have expensive knives, they don’t really use them due to them not truly knowing how to maintain there tools properly. I never go easy on any knife.
Beautiful outdoor knife. I prefer S30V for camp knives as its a bit less chippy and quicker to sharpen but I've got no problems with S35VN.
Funny because one the reasons why S35VN was done by crucible and Chris Reeve was to provide a slightly better performance of the steel compared to S30V. And that means that toughness should be better as well. But it depends on the HT, as always.
S30v vs s35vn with optimal heat treats, s35vn was designed to be significantly tougher then s30v. I personally love s30v and really don't care to much for s35vn as it just looses its aggression to quickly but that doesn't change the fact that s35vn is significantly tougher and less chippy then s30v. That is assuming equal quality of heat treat with both steels ran in their optimal hardness range. At 58-60hrc s35vn will be notably tougher in a hard use knife then s30v will as well as being notably quicker to touch up on the stones then s30v will be. WRKs absolutely made a better choice (I hate to say it) going with s35vn in this knife design then s30v. With the geometry and intended use case for this knife they would have been dealing with broken tips and chipped out edges if they had went s30v. For ask fantastic of a steel as well done s30v is for pocket knives and lighter duty fixed blades... it has no place in a knife like this with the type of uses these knives are typically used for. S35vn or s45vn is an ideal steel for this knife in a stainless version. Personally I really wish they would do it in cpm 440v/S60V and I would buy one in a heart beat.. s30v is a great steel and a damn good performer but not suited well for this type of knife with the use case it's designed to fill. Maybe they should make us a budget version of it for like 150 and do it in 14c28n or better yet 19c27 as a stainless option and 80crv2 as a nonstainless option!!! That would be a kickass 150 dollar Knife that would sell like wildfire spreads I bet!
I have two models from White River... 3" BackPacker original w/ paracord & 3.5" FireCraft w/ HI VIS green G-10... both in stonewashed S35VN steel. Fit, finish workmanship & all materials are very good. The little yet very precise design of the Backpacker is highly suitable for use on PFDs (life-vests) as a great knife rafting. Some might suggest a blunt tip, serrations, and marginal steel selections for such a river-ready tool... however... professionally, for all-rounder use, fish/game prep, rescue/recovery, crafting, first aid, and various repair tasks... all those crappy 'looks cool trendy' river knives are relatively junk by comparison. FireCraft is an interesting niche knife. If/when I'm going White River as a selection... I'll look at 'em for very specific more niche vs. general camp task knives. In other words = I would not select this Ursus, likely not s35vn for steel choice, and especially at this sort of price point. I do feel it is quality with the attention to detail there, and a good company... just likely not the way I'd go, and would not view it as a go-to for most.
I guided whitewater for 16 years... I have the same opinion of the standard "river knife"... stopped using them when I lost my second Gerber River Shorty (even using the bread tie mod) in the NRG... (and screw serrations)... they were good at spreading mayo and mustard, though... :-)
Have two of them. I love these knives. Good geometry, good steel and a comfortable handle. I use it alongside with the White River Exodus. A great combination.
I have this knife and several others from White River. They are not cheap but the quality is there. The steel is one of my favorites and their sheathes are great and often come with a fire steel. I would like to get a few more of their knives and highly recomend them.😃
Have a few White River knives, mostly smaller (EDC/hiking knives). Thanks for taking the time with the Ursus 45. Been looking at it for some time now. Will be putting some thought into a budget and a possible acquisition. Thanks again.
Tried many knives for bushcraft. Esee's, Moras, Terava, Brisa, Becker, etc. This Ursus 45 is my knive now. I don't need another knife, this one is perfect for me. Perfect sheath too!
S35VN is an all around good choice for an outdoor workhouse. Years ago I fell for the 1095 ESEE trend and bought a couple. They simply dull too damn fast. Sure, super easy to bring the edge back, but I don't want to stop to do that in the middle of tasks. I love magnacut and cruwear as much as they next, but they're pretty steeply priced for a fixed blade. The price point for quality of this steel make it an ideal option. If I had extra money to blow, I'd get a magnacut fixed blade (do they even make one as beefy as that Ursus?)...but right now that extra money goes towards new guns and more ammo. If I were in the market for another fixed blade, I'd definitely give this one a shot. The handle is actually the selling point for me, with the dangler being a big bonus. They should all provide a dangler with kydex.
They just recently released a Reiff F4 in Magnacut which I believe is going to be absolutely worth checking out.
@@Huck_Finn0614 Yeah, but I could do without the "slightly hollow" part of the grind. Completely unnecessary, if not a bit of a liability.
People used rocks, bone, brass, copper and iron for thousands of years for cutting and you complain 1095 dulls to fast lol.
@@WoodsmanHobo777 That is in no way relevant. If people in the Neolithic era had Magnacut, do you think they'd say, "Naw, I'll stay with flint"?. Or how about the "Native Americans", did they just stick with stone tomahawks? Fuck no, they sold their soles for steel tomahawks and knives, then later muskets. That's the way of technology. And it was hundreds of thousands of years at a minimum, not just thousands. Run along back to the kids you half wit.
This is a great knife,egornomic ,effectiv, solid even if I m not a huge fan of s35vn ! I sold
all my knives expect for 7 knives, 4 are customs design by me, for me made by blacksmith and knives maker ! The 3 others are a wildsteer skelet ,tops bob ,and a ursus.
I live very close to where these knives are made. Theres a local gun and knife show every couple months, and theres always a booth with a guy who gets a bunch of "blemish" models to sell for them. The "blemishes" are incredibly minor and they sell them at a huge discount. Last time i was there he had a dlc coated version of this knife that had a super small area that didnt get as thick of coating, and he was selling it for $185. Wish i would've picked it up.
I've been using this knife in camp for a couple years now But mine is in 3V and it's a fantastic knife. I love a knife that looks and works like a knife and thats what it does. Great Video.
I have been thanking of getting a 3V
You will like it. I have no doubt.@@gideonstactical
Just happy to see that someone is able to do this and have success
Actually reminds me of the Fieldmaster knife that MCQ Bushcraft had custom made for him.
I sharpen a huge amount of these for customers over the last 2 years and I have never been anything less then very impressed with them. Fantastic fit and finish, Fantastic heat treat, super tough considering the decently slicey geometry... I don't carry fixed blades but if I did I would 100% own one. Quiet possibly one of the very best 225-250 dollar camp and hard use outdoor fixie. I'm one that typically doesn't purchase any knife in s35vn as I just don't like it as a premium steel very much BUT it serves its purpose very well in this knife with the quality of heat treat that is being done. I end up doing a lot of 18 degree per side hand done lightly convex'ed edge bevels and have had a customer ask me to cut test the knife and put it thru its paces and I was very impressed with its edge life in a week long camping type use. That 36 inclusive light convex does a hell of a job holding up to batoning hardwoods and pines while still doing a pretty dang good job on food prep and general slicing. During that test we even cleaned a feral hogs that I took with a .45 cal air rifle. It did a great job field dressing, skinning and breaking down of the pig. It's the only knife I used that entire 8 days trip and the edge maintained a fully serviceable level of sharpness for the full time we was there and it did a significant amount of cutting. The only edge maintaining that was done was on a paddle strop I brought with 12 micron diamond emulsion on it and the knife was never dulled to thr point that 10 passes per side on the strop wouldn't bring it back to shaving. That speaks a heck of a lot to how good the heart treat is. Had that been an Esse in 1095 or a Beecker I would have NEVER been able to go that entire 8 days and the amount of cutting that knife did without having to take a pocket stone and put a fresh edge on it. In fact with the amount of cutting I did on well done 1095 I would say I would have had to touch the edge or 2 to 3 times on a stone in order to keep it being able to be brought back to shaving however this knife was able to be kept at a shaving level without any stone/ceramic rod touch ups. Cleaning that large of a hog and breaking all that mean down is hell on an edge and just a couple stropping passes and it came right back to easily shaving. This is one of few times that s35vn has actually impressed me as a steel, it wouldn't be my first choice in this knife BUT it's done well enough that I would still happily buy one. If they ever make this exact design but do it in 440v/s60v I will buy one on the spot even tho I don't really carry fixed blades unless I'm camping. This knife design is literally begging to be made in S60V (or m4) and would be one of the best production belt knives one could by if they did a run in that steel.
Very thorough review I must say... Can not believe that any steel can do that much without sharpening but I am fresh knife lover with lower level of blades in possession and maximum that i torture them is with fresh veal carving..
I own the White River Ursus45 (this knife), the caper, and the firecraft FC7. All are excellent and all feel amazing in the hand. White River does amazing work with S35VN. It’s all in the way it’s heat treated when it comes to this steel.
Not cheap options, but they’ll last a lifetime. Hi h is good, as they carry a lifetime warranty.
I picked that one up about two years ago; great knife, great sheaths. It comes with a very sturdy leathersheath with a ferro rod loop aswell; both sheaths are great! Thanks for showing it, I've been wondering for a while now why nobody did :)
I'm wearing my White River M1 Caper right now. Incredible little fixed blade. This Ursus looks amazing as well.
Couldn't agree more!
Really reminds me of the GSO 5 from a few years ago. I was wondering if the lanyard hole would create a hot spot or get in the way.
It hasn’t for me 👍 the handle has tons of real-estate and it’s too light to do series chopping.
Great review of a beautiful knife. White River makes some nice stuff!!!! Just picked up a smaller fixed blade....L T Wright Bushcrafter that has a very similar shaped handle in Python Micarta...that comes with a beautiful Leather sheath...
Best knife I have since two years. Well balanced, not to big, fulfills every task and and cuts extremely well and the edge lasts long! Hard to beat in the field
That is a monster of a knife . Thanks for showcasing such a fine knife.
No one is talking about it because it's $250 knife. How many years do you have to use it to get a return on your investment?
Only $250? That’s a very average price for a knife of this quality now days.
Yeah, ill stick with my Morakniv.
For that much and it comes with a bottom of the barrel sheath!
Enough reason for not purchasing...
It's sad in this day in age a guy has to build a sheath to replace the crap that came with the blade...
@@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798 I’ve never got a sheath with any knife that I kept 😂, they’re all crap
@@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798 the sheath is great, what exactly do you have a problem with.
I have had this knife in my hands and you are not correct on the sheath.
I love my Ursus 45. It is one of my top 2 knives for hiking and camping...The other one is my Lionsteel T5. However, unlike the T5, this knife has a very sharp spine and comes with a fire steel. This one has a Kydex sheath and the T5 has a leather one.
How has the edge held up with harder tasks?
I've had both knives for over a year and they both are exactly what I expect from great knives. They came sharp out of the box and all I usually do is strop them to keep the blades sharp.@@kpfagerberg
Edge has held up good. I would prefer Magnacut. Whiteriver now has a smaller model of the Ursus, the Cub. I can't wait to try it out.
I have this knife and 2 other white rivers. All their knives are superb. The model 1 is a great every day carry and i also have the hunter, its basic a smaller thinner version of the Ursus, the hunter is a great all around camp knife but is just a bit better in food prep than the monster Ursus
It looks VERY similar to my architect 5.5 from the Knife Connection (3V first production run, made by TOPS). Similar shape, handle and sheath. As you say and demonstrate, a great if simplistic design. Basically a bushcraft handle on a more typical survival/hunting blade. White River makes great knives, I have the M1 and it is a great EDC fixed blade! Those Bradfords are great too, I have the 3.5 and 5.5 in 3V. Good review!
Love this knife, the Ursus 45 is my favorite. I have a video on my channel about it and I show the best sheath mod for it, especially the older sheaths that seemed to be much, much tighter and im not talking about modifying the actual sheath itself. Its worth checking out lol.
1. excellent review. 2. I am no longer going out in the field. 3. I think the sheath is super. 4. Just looking at the video, I knew that the knife would be about $250. 5. Frankly, I would go with the Spartan fixed blade that you recently reviewed (I like the retention feature on that sheath) or even the discontinued Buck fixed blade (I found it and bought one) that you also reviewed. The reason is that it is highly remote that I will be out hiking and camping anymore. If someone were in his 20s, the blade would last a lifetime.
I think I'm coming around to the idea that what started as a malapropism ( "Simplistic", when what the presenter means is "simple" ), has now become a distinctive part of knife reviewer cultural vernacular, the way AAVE has "axe" in place of "ask" as a ligitimate dialect (not dialectical, that would be a similar malapropism that hasn't yet become culturaly recognized) variation. Call it KRVE, perhaps. It would also include unique words like "Jimping", and uses of "carry" and "deploy" with specific subcultural uses.
Anyway this knife rocks, thanks for bringing it to our attention. A big win for simplicityisticalosityociousnessarityisticism in design. (I'm gonna try to make that one a thing.)
Holy crap, I’ve been watching you for years and apparently I never subscribed. Fixed. Keep up the good work!
Right on! Thanks and officially Welcome to the GT Crew!
The price honestly is not bad for what you get. Properly ground, heated bushcraft knife with a tough CPM steel known for above average toughness for a vanadium rich stainless, and a nice kydex sheath
I have a Firecraft 3.5 and it’s a brute for such a small knife. Built like a tank. 🤙 love the quality from White River Knives. S35VN is my favorite knife steel.
I have this in CPM 3V, it's easily my favorite large knife. White River is the best. They seem to nail the heat treat with everything, I have 3 of their blades.
I broke the FC5 after a few batonnages, and the FC7 directly with the first batonnage on a small piece of wood.
High saber grind leaving too little material behind the edge ? Heat treatment defect ? Limit of the S35VN ?
S35VN & White River, no more for me.
The White River Caper in S35VN is my EDC of choice. Love it. That Ursus was tempting, but less than EDC-able.
I'll stick w/my Off Grid Tracker x2,which is very similar at less cost,easily is my favorite edc,camping,survival knife
I have nothing against White River, but I am squarely in the Bark River camp for most of my fixed blade knife desires these days. As for Magnacut, sure, it is a great steel innovation, but, personally, I would like to see more options toward S35VN or CPM 3V to get those same new designs at cheaper prices. Magnacut it *way* more expensive than most other steels just because it is so new.
I was looking at getting this knife right before the Reiff F6 came out and ended up going with that instead, but I have really liked the U45 for awhile and am still going to get it
Wow thats a great knife. Sad to see how many people have been impacted by unrealistic prices for things from China (slave labor with garbage QC and materials) that dont last. This aint one of those things
It looks really close to a few knives Bark River does that I have eye balled before... is there any relationship between Bark River Knives and White River? Perhaps not but I think your right, this one really catches my eye. I have a few S35Vn knives, definitely harder to sharpen vs other steels. Not for people that arent very experienced at sharpening.
S35vn is great steel. But it just doesn’t feel like a great purchase in 2023. Magnacut is supposed to be reasonably priced. It’s basically the replacement for s35vn. White river knives are as nice as any custom. Hands down the nicest fit and finish. They just need to hurry up and make the switch.
Hello from Austria, I‘ve recently picked up an Ursus 45, awesome blade. Just a quick question, please: is the spine supposed to be really, really sharp? I’ve read it‘s supposed to be sharp to allow striking a ferrorod. But mine is super sharp, almost uncomfortable, with a tiny burr which I can feel on the edge of the spine with my fingernail. Is that within tolerance? I also own a Cub which is not as sharp on the spine. Also, I do not feel a burr on the Cub‘s spine. Thanks!
Interesting. Mine is sharp but I don’t no know if it is that sharp.
Love it, bought one couple years ago. Such a great, simple blade. Only complaint is for $200, the fit and finish should be better.
What fit and finish is not up to snuff? The fit and finish is excellent 👍
@@gideonstactical on mine, near the rear of the knife it was not ground properly or “square”. The fit of the handles leaves a hot spot the entire way around it.
Good looking knife for $250. but look at the Buck Pursuit Pro Large 4.5" Fixed Blade Knife - S35VN / Orange
S35VN is amazing. Its edge retention is unsurpased. My Benchmade 'bushcrafter' uses the same steel and is extremely similar to the one in your video. Its amazing.
I love mine! Haven't seen many videos AT ALL. Glad you did this vid. I tend ti carry it as an edc, actually
Nice!!
No jimping! Kudos to White River. In my view any jimping falls into the category of useless fancy stuff. Where I would have liked a drop point (or even a clip point without a swedge) instead of this more spear point design it would not be a deal breaker. The handle really looks comfortable and I agree they often make handles to thin for prolonged use. Kydex sheath looks really good with the flat surface on the bottom so also good for carry in your backpack carry and I do appreciate a dangler. I would prefer a strong fabric belt loop because leather and hot or salt water don't go well together. I would sell the firesteel loop separately as an option but agree on the tension screw. They should add that feature although I don't carry knives tip up. It's always good to have a solid lock up of your knife in dense vegetation. The price I consider reasonable and would not be a deal breaker either. So this for me is a good option next time I visit the US. Since I'm in Europe I have to include p&p and 21% VAT so that makes it kinda expensive here.
I have one and i love it,also have a M1 as Neck Knife.Greetings from Germany.
Just picked one up at Sportsman's Warehouse for $215 and I got $50 off coming for purchase over $200. What a great knife and what a deal!
Awesome!!!
I was on the fence between this and the FC4, and I went with the FC4.
How is it been performing for you so far?
@@gideonstactical The two were on the table in front of me, and I wanted something a little smaller for camping. I like the size and performance of the fc4, but often I wish I had a thicker grip. Also the bow drill hole on the fc4 began to bother me more than I thought it would. Kind of a bummer... I should have gone with the ursus.
Knife prices have gotten rediculous. Winkler knives dont seem so expensive now. Try and resell your knife on the used market and then youll see what that is actually worth.
This knife made me fall in love with white river knives. It's my favourite fixed blade.
Check out the Caper/backpacker. Great ergonomics. I use it for camp cooking a lot
The White River FC series is so awesome. I prefer the FC5.
It is a better size than my FC7 if you are gonna wear it everyday, the FC7 makes a better pack knife though I think.
how would you compare that knife vs the italian made one you reviewed the Lion steel blade, which is alot more money bigger blade but as far as performances/tasks.......
G'day Aaron, that is noiiiiiiice mate !!!!!, pretty much the perfect blade/package I reckon.
Perhaps a fraction high on the sabre, but that's very much a nit pick.
S35 is my fav for anything .... fixed or folding up to 6 in, ..... the sweet spot for price/performance/sharpening/corrosion resistance IMO.
I can imagine it paired with a big fella, together with a folding saw, on the trail, ......... you'd be right as rain for any task, + be well covered in the back up department should one happen to be lost or fail.
Btw: I'd be flipping the ferro loop 180 deg to make it right way up.
Those other alternatives you showed ...... aint too shabby either ; ) Cheers Duke.
Nearly 300 Euros here so more of a collection piece. My Mora Garberg will get the job done for less than a third.
The knife is a tough sell, when you can get an ESEE 4 in S35VN for a little more than half the price of this one.
OR
A Kabar/Snody Big Boss in S35VN for 20% of the price of this knife.
Both made in the USA.
I'd love to see a review of the Ursus Cub Magnacut now that its out. It looks great, but I worry about handle size.
i have one of these with the brown handle. really impressed by the sheath and honestly the box it came in
S35vn is good, I have it in one if my Bushcraft knives and i also have M390 and 14C28N. Honestly at the end of the day it just depends on which knife i want to carry out in the field.
Ok so ursus 45 S35VN/3V or tops field craft BOB 154cm?
Wait..... Or the Tops Brush Wolf? I want them all but just looking for a one knife to rule them all jic 💩 happens
Ursus 45, s35vn tends to have better edge or attention but 3V steel will be tougher, so depending on what you care about more will be the version to go with.
@@gideonstactical thanks brother 🤙🏼 love the videos and information you put out. Keep up the great work.
Awesome review Aaron. Keep up the great work. This is my go to channel for knife and gear reviews.
That really means a lot, thank you so so much and I’m glad you enjoyed the content! Thanks for being a part of the GT crew
What would you choose between this and any of the 4”+ Bradford knives in Magnacut?
Yes, because the handle is much more ergonomic for what I look for in a knife.
@@gideonstactical thanks. I’m torn lol. I keep thinking get something in Magnacut 😁
I work everyday with a k390 Endela and 4 max elite in s35 in my waist and it’s the perfect daily blend of retention stainless and toughness
Great review! I would love to see you compare it to the TBS Grizzly Buschcraft Survival Knife - Military Model
Nice man! I’ve been holding out on getting a full tang. I my pull the trigger on this one
Good choice!
if i compare ursus 45 to fc5 also from white river, which one will you prefer?
We will see haven’t used the FC5
The whole package reminds me of the Survive! line of knives. I've got the 4.5, same alloy as your knife. Survive! has lately introduced some knives in magnacut. Does White River have any blades like that?
Great video! I love that knife too! My favorite EDC knife. Put an elk grip and a leather sheath for mine. Love your knife reviews. Keep up the great videos.
Condor camp knives are half the price and work great! I Like the review also own a white river.
Which would you pick between the Bradford 5.5 Guardian and this White River?
White River better sheaths and ergos. The Bradford had the better steel 3V
To me it brings to mind some of the Joker and Architect knives.
Totally like my Joker Ursa...only with a kydex sheath and no CVM625 steel
White river makes some awesome stuff. I want the pku because it’s a scandi. Sounds like I need to look into this
Definitely my type of knife, albeit on the short side..for me personally.
Love the blade shape, great steel type which is extremely important to me, handle is great. Real kydex sheath is fabulous and helps justify the price.
Fyi i prefer a finger choil and thinner handle @ the index finger for additional grip styles.
Unlike you, i don't grip a knife (or stick etc) with my index finger, rather the last three fingers which gives freedom of movement and greater strength to my grip. Try it...
It's unfortunate these days many many people fall for blade "gimmicks " ie. Holes in the blade, weird barely usable blade shapes, too thin stock, saw teeth.
For alot of people flat ground,
drop point blades are frankly boring...
But, that is because they have been around forever, are iconic because they function fabulously.
You might have guessed I'm old school.
No school like old school lol.
$250 is quite a bit when you consider that I just ordered an ESEE-4 HM Kydex and the nylon molle backer/belt setup from the knife connection last night for $124 shipped. That is literally half the price for a very solid camp knife. (Which I know you already know and enjoy the ESEE-4 HM)
Thanks for the good content and reviews. Godspeed
If you can find one - Please review a Montana Knife Company Magnacut Stonewall Skinner. Thank you!!
I have 3 MKC knives coming
I have the special edition of the Ursus in 3V and it's been my sleeper hit knife for a while now
As the ferro rod gets smaller does it still stay in place ?
That is a great question. Not sure
Thank you for doing this review! The only White River knife that seems to get a lot of love is the M1 Pro Backpacker and it's a shame.
I really like WR knives, can you compare this to their FC5 Survival Knife also in S35VN?
S35VN is probably my favorite steel but I don’t have any fixed blades made with it yet 😢
This will definitely be an excellent one to pick up with that steel.
My cousin owns one with their black burlap micarta grips - stunning knife 👌
It costs literally the same as the ESO Knives in Europe which basically looking the same as that. I imagine in the USA, the price difference isn't big neither. So people choose the Brand they know and many people talking about, if they don't "collect knives".
Personally, it doesn't has a leather sheet.
... So, there you've it.