How to wire from the Main Panel to a Sub Panel for a Hot Tub or Spa... (Part 1 of 4) DIY Spa Wiring

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  • @jharknessxrp
    @jharknessxrp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You're probably the best at explaining stuff, that I've ever heard!

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks For Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @frankcusumano3839
    @frankcusumano3839 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the best detailed tutorial! Thank you for answering all my questions! Subscribed! 👍👍

  • @codygray2296
    @codygray2296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So pumped for this video I was moving my tub and now need a sub panel I got a quote from some guy and he wanted to charge me 2k. This will save me a lot of time and money. Great job buddy of explaining the process. Very helpful. Most people just hack out these videos but not this one. I hope you get a ton of views.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks fir Watching & SUBSCRIBING and if you have any question Please ask.. Thanks again

  • @brandonhall1085
    @brandonhall1085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very informative and very much appreciated. Ive never seen another channel for hot tubs/spas, how to’s on electrical work as attention to detail as you are in your channel. Thank you again.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @Legacyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
    @Legacyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just wanted to say thank you for the video series. I successfully installed a hot tub today, thanks to your videos. The only thing that did not go according to plan was running the four 6 gauge THHN wires through the 3/4" Liquid Tight. It was incredibly difficult to get these wires to run through 40 feet of liquid tight- even with fish tape. I would have gladly paid the extra money to have 1" seal tight if I had known how hard that was going to be, lol. Nevertheless, I am immensely grateful for your help. Thank you again.

  • @kdawg1983
    @kdawg1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have watched every video you have put out in two days! Such great work! Thanks from Central Oregon!

  • @josephgraham1065
    @josephgraham1065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks again for this video. I was able to successfully install my 220 spa gfci disconnect box 65 feet from main box. Works great... Thanks so much.

  • @danrussell3509
    @danrussell3509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fantastic video !!!! Just thought you should tell your viewers that even though your main is turned off the wires to the main are still hot and a misplaced screwdriver or fingers will result in serious injury , unless of course the power company has disconnected from their phase . Great job though !!! Looking forward to more videos !!

  • @lifechanges4097
    @lifechanges4097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how detailed you are, and the way you explain everything. Thank you, I appreciate all the time you put into your videos. 👍👍

  • @DexterPlayz
    @DexterPlayz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this, you will be by my side for my install this weekend!

    • @Red8675309666
      @Red8675309666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did your install go?

  • @kammyHS
    @kammyHS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Scott, I love all your videos they are so helpful- Thank you for sharing 👍🏻

  • @gwrace
    @gwrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Scott for these detailed DIY videos. You picked up a new subscriber today. We will take delivery of a new hot tub in Dec or Jan and plan to do the 220 volt wiring myself. Keep up the great work!

  • @sword3159
    @sword3159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just to add to this video is that you can use a #8 wire for your ground instead of #4 to save you some extra cash. Great video by the way 👍

  • @shaunspalding7429
    @shaunspalding7429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the confidence inspiring videos. I was able and confidently completed running Romex 6-3 wire from the service panel in my crawl space and then wired my subpanel and the hot tub itself. Worked the first time and looks professional thanks to your videos. Keep up the great work.

  • @markherman6971
    @markherman6971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and how-to demonstration. Will be tackling my sister-in-laws new hot tub and this was perfect. Thank you!

  • @paulbearce6112
    @paulbearce6112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you! I was able to trouble shoot my electrical issues between the main and sub panel after watching your video. Very helpful.

  • @taiquan4058
    @taiquan4058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy the in depth details of the video. Great job and thank you.

  • @BryceStreams-b2m
    @BryceStreams-b2m 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, awesome videos man, great step-by-step, hands-on instruction. You made an overwhelming job alot safer and simplistic. Much appreciated! Our new hot tub arrived last week, and I just completed wiring it up last night!

  • @PaulMeyer-f9v
    @PaulMeyer-f9v ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate your complete instruction walk through on the sub panel addition. I'm a do it yourself person. I'm adamant about safety. The dig rite routine, power off, etc. I'm a little lacking as to the red tape to one of the main wires??? I did run a white for my neutral in the same #6 size . If you could explain, this DIY guy would appreciate it. Have a safe and blessed day. Thy, Paul M.

  • @justmeray177
    @justmeray177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're an awesome teacher man thank you so much for your information very helpful very explanatory very clear and easy to understand absolutely awesome thank you

  • @jaydiaz1294
    @jaydiaz1294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the tutorial. Do I need a 50 or 60 amp GFCI 2 pole breaker at the main box if my sub box has a GFCI breaker already? My spa installer said I need a 50 amp GFCI breaker at the main box instead of a 60 amp 10k standard that my electrician installed. The spa installer did not look at the sub box to see that it has a GFCI breaker in it.

  • @dustinfrench5163
    @dustinfrench5163 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Impressive. Very detailed and descriptive which a lot of people overlook until it arises so Thank you for that. One thing I had a question about was a 3-D printer. What is a common GFCI for of 3-D printer? That's quite large and where can I find the information also with that g? FCI what wire is gonna go to as well and work accordingly? With the power draw that i'm gonna have

  • @jeffreysilva6430
    @jeffreysilva6430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phenomenal!!!! great clarity....clean Electrical work is so nice to see...thank you

  • @wscray
    @wscray 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you put the Green and Common wire on the same bar in the Main Box?
    3:47

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Green and Neutral wire....YES only in the Main Panel ...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @javierango
    @javierango ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your video, very helpful, I have a question?

  • @venussv67
    @venussv67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You explain it so well!!!

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @GreetersThru-Hike
    @GreetersThru-Hike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done! My main panel had a bonded ground and common bar. Everything was mixed. I made sure that from the main panel on down that they were separated. I learned a lot from this. My hot tub comes in November. It seems that covid has caused a huge delay in shipping for most brands. I am looking forward to the last one where you fill the hot tub.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That video should be up before Friday.. Thanks fro Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your main panel is allowed to have the common and ground bonded. Just every sub panel and basically everything outside the main panel has to have the common and ground separated (not bonded). Only rare special circumstances allow after main bonding, per NEC 2020.

    • @ancientpersianempire
      @ancientpersianempire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andygigawatt7778 this is fact, a sub panel neutral bar should not be bonded to the cabinet

  • @lauraayers7157
    @lauraayers7157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative, great job as well.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @jerryscholder462
    @jerryscholder462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unbelievably detailed instructional video that provides great information to know what's going on even if you don't do it yourself.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank You so much for your kind words... I really have enjoyed helping others get there tasks accomplished.. In the future I am going to start doing other videos on other topics other then Hot Tubs And Spas.. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @thronepotato
    @thronepotato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These are exceptional videos and very informative. If the main panel is in the homeowner's basement, I would assume that you do not need conduit inside the house and can simply run #4 wire along the ceiling until you get to the point where it exits the house. Is that correct? Also once you drill a hole in the house to run the wire out to the sub-panel, is there a type of connection for the conduit that attached to the house (siding) that is secure and animal/waterproof? Thank you.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are correct and yes they do have and make a connection for that.. Home Depot / Lowes or any hardware store should have what you naeed... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @geovanny6049
    @geovanny6049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Mr. easy to follow. You got a new subscriber. I am planning to place an 8x8x4 jacuzzi in Riverside CA, waiting for HOA to approve it. I have a clear and better idea what to expect and do. Appreciate your time.

  • @bigdaddy4975
    @bigdaddy4975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know technically it is a common wire but people might get confused with that word and ground. Lots of homeowners screw these sub panels up anyway because they don’t understand how neutral and ground are supposed to be hooked up. They don’t understand the relationship the ground and neutral have I’ve seen it a million times I do this for a living.

  • @johndavies2949
    @johndavies2949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still a dangerous situation even if you turn off main breaker as the main lugs are still energized. Be super careful around those. Best solution is to pull the power meter if you can.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great advise ... But unfortunately that is not an option. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @johnniegreen1376
    @johnniegreen1376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job in explaining why and how to do.

  • @MasaMuneDenadoro
    @MasaMuneDenadoro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scott can you help me understand why you would use only a 60 amp breaker to power the sub panel that would power a 50amp hot tub, 20amp for lights, 20 amp for pool pump, etc? Don't you want to add more than 60amps in the main panel to supply more power to the sub to accomodate those other things?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For what I was going to be doing that was all that I needed to do. The Hot Tub only had one motor and a 4.0 Heater so it didn't really require much and that left enough for the outdoor entertainment area..I think I did this install over two years ago and haven't had any issues to date...Thanks for Watching & Subscribing

  • @thefarmerandthedale5894
    @thefarmerandthedale5894 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I have a question about my situation. I am running 100 feet through the woods. I was hoping to use 4/4 direct bury instead of PVC conduit and the four wires you used here. Do you see an issue using direct bury? Thank you.

  • @mbakken11
    @mbakken11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you were installing a standard spa disconnect box that had a 50A breaker in it, would you still need a breaker in the main panel? Seems redundant. Is there a way to draw power from the main panel other than a breaker, like a tap of some sort?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should have a disconnect no closer then 5 feet and no further the 20 feet in the line of sight with no obstructions. You can watch some of my other video on this subject and it may help you... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @xtreemej7
    @xtreemej7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video. I know you said later you would put in more breakers for an outdoor kitchen. I want to do the same thing. Just have a question. If adding say two more 20 amp breakers for two GFCI double outlet (outdoor) plugs, would it be better to use a 100 AMP breaker in the main panel and 1/0 wire to run to it to carry the extra load? Thanks.

  • @lyleguthmiller5464
    @lyleguthmiller5464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello my name is lyle I have a question, my wire that comes from the gfi box outside to my hot tub are two red two blue ,witch are two different sizes. And a white and green. And my wires that come out of my hot tub are the common black and red witch are + and green and white. Witch wire of the red and blue do I use. ??

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would need to call the office on this one. Its an easy fix and I don't want to confuse other that might have a similar problem.Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @franlutz8549
    @franlutz8549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Spa Man - very helpful. I do have a question on wire size. I'm installing a larger hot tub that requires 60 amp service. The distance from the main panel to the GFI disconnect is 90 ft. Is 6/3 Romex large enough for that run or would you suggest #4 wire? I'm hearing mixed answers from different electrical people. Thanks for your help.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do not use any type of Romex...Ground is to small and it just causes problems...Use THHN or THWN wire. as far as wire size I would call the shop and talk to Scott, he has a formula that he uses depending on distance of the run from point A to point B. The number of pumps & HP per pump and the size of heater. A lot goes into it. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @franlutz8549
      @franlutz8549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spaman5440 Thank you for the quick reply. I will definitely stay away from Romex and see if I can get a hold of Scott. You guys are awesome!

  • @carlahayes8977
    @carlahayes8977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if i run the wires from main through the attic, do i need to run them in pvc? or can i just run them until i come through eve and then use pvc or liquid tight when i come out to go to sub breaker.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you are above ground from the Main to the attic and then from the attic to the Sub panel you would use EMT... you would only use liquid tight from the Sub panel to the Spa and Grey PVC is for under ground..Hope that Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @carlahayes8977
      @carlahayes8977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My main is in the house, so I think I can run it into attic indoors, then along attic until I go out soffit with gray pvc to sub, then liquid tight to tub.

  • @timboddorf2226
    @timboddorf2226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. It is great to see what is all involved even thought it is out of my comfort level. Could you give a ball park figure for what a electrician might charge to wire my new hot tube? Don't like surprises. Thanks.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Call Scott at the shop and he can ball park it for you...

  • @mondellewarren1677
    @mondellewarren1677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much
    Really appreciate the Information and content
    Taking notes and making a shopping list

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let us know how it goes...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @MrRickok
    @MrRickok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey great video, just one thing you should be using THWN wire for all locations considered wet locations.

  • @joegehl1360
    @joegehl1360 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the feed breaker (to SPA panel which is GFCI protected) ever have to be GFCI in the main panel?

  • @DavidKingmasterWV
    @DavidKingmasterWV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm running a 60 amp breaker for my hot tub and can I use number 6 for the run or do I use number 4? I know it's good for 55 amp's but no 4 won't fit in the hot tub terminal's?

  • @enkrypt3d
    @enkrypt3d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how do u make those connections to a main panel that is inside the wall? I guess I'll have to do some sheet rock work......

  • @Red8675309666
    @Red8675309666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QUESTION! I'm wanting to run power to my hot tub through my attic. It'd be cheaper (and easier) if i could use romex through the attic. My question though would be how best to switch from THHN from the outside in the conduit, to the Romex in the attic? Any help would be appreciated :)

  • @coreycoleman4276
    @coreycoleman4276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a quick question, roughly how much does this installation cost? I need this before I purchase my hot tub.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An install like this has several variables to deal with like how far is the run from the main to the sub panel and how are you going to get it there ? Are you going under ground or next to the wall or through the attic. This entire four part series of video install would of cost about $2500. to $3500.
      I would get the Hot Tub first and wire accordingly I can't tell you how many jobs we have to go out and redo for homeowners because they ran the severce and then ordered the hot tub from Costco and when it was delivered had to have several things fixed because the Hot Tub required something different...Not always but at least one a week for several years now sometime more depending on the time of the year.Hope this Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @ancientpersianempire
    @ancientpersianempire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very nice quality work a+

  • @DannyBoemermann
    @DannyBoemermann 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a new install 3 wire hot tub, can a 4th wire (white) be run and just connected as a second ground on both ends (taped green and marked for future use) if a 4 wire hot tub is ever a replacement in the future)?

  • @margaritoencinias9542
    @margaritoencinias9542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thank you! If you have a 60 amp breaker on your Maine and you put a 50 amp on your sub how much more breakers can you put on your sub?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In this install we installed a two pull 50 Amp GFCI breaker in the Sub Panel and there was 6 single pull spots left in the panel for when we are ready to build an outdoor living space with TV ,Frig , Bar-B-Q ,ceiling fans and so on Hope this Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @theeagle4540
    @theeagle4540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could I use #6 THHN from the main with a 50 amp breaker to the sub panel 75 feet away, sub panel dedicated to swim spa only with 50 amp GFCI breaker? Enjoyed all 4 of the videos very informative.

    • @CGaribaldiDO
      @CGaribaldiDO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the exact same question. I think you could do this. Have you found your answer???

  • @danielferraz3429
    @danielferraz3429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell me if the cut off box is less than 5 feet from the hot tub water, is it allowed if it is a non metallic box?

  • @hurdleking_4008
    @hurdleking_4008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do those wires(black, red, green and white) come in all-in-one bundle that you buy? Where would be the cheapest place to buy those wires at? Asking because I am in the process of setting up my new hot tub its about 150' run... thanks!

  • @ajp323a
    @ajp323a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video, Thank you. I just put 240 GFI breaker, outside of the house (similar to yours, 4 wires), but friends, telling me i need grounding rod, not ground from the house. any advise would be appreciated. thank you.

    • @thomasmarable6818
      @thomasmarable6818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You need the ground wire from the house to meet the code.

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ground rods at locations other than the main panel can become hazards if continuous ground faults occur. They will energize several feet of the area around the ground rod which can shock or electrocute someone standing there without insulated shoes. Always run the ground wire to the main panel.

  • @stevemclean5787
    @stevemclean5787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Scott great instructional video. Tons of detailed info not offered in other videos that cover the topic.
    I was given a Sundance 880 series spa which replaced my old Phoenix Spas tub. Sundance apparently doesn't use a common wire which has me confused on what to do with the common attached to the gfci breaker. I attached it to the common lug and have power on both hot lugs but when I turn on the breaker at the main panel and turn on the breaker in the sub panel, nothing happens on the spa and neither breaker is tripping. What am i missing?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok you have a lot going on ... Easy fix but You will need to call me because I don't want you to get confused as well as others with the same problem you are having ... you can call me anytime.. It an easy fix..,,Thanks For Watching & SUBSCRIBING.

    • @stevemclean5787
      @stevemclean5787 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spaman5440 thanks for replying to my question. I'd love to call you but I have no idea how to get a hold of you. If you want to email me at Reflections detailer at gmail.com with your number that would be great.

  • @bthone3366
    @bthone3366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Scott, thanks for the great videos. Want to install a Tuff spa TT150, my spa location is 45 feet from my main panel.Would #6 THHN be adequate for the run?if yes, does the ground also have to be #6? Was thinking of a 50A at the main and 50A GFCI at the sub-panel.Please let me know what you think. Thanks

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that will work. #6 THHN wire on all four wires the two Hots , Common/Neutral and the ground...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @bthone3366
      @bthone3366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Scott, thanks for the reply.As I looked more closely at my future installation layout, I need to go from my garage panel to the spa.The garage panel is supplied by the main panel,15 feet away, by a 50A, #6 wire feed.Can I go to a 60A at the main panel to feed the garage panel, so the spa has a dedicated 50A? I have a small fridge and small chest freezer in the garage, Any suggestions ? Thanks

  • @bthone3366
    @bthone3366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Scott, thanks for the reply.As I looked more closely at my future installation layout, I need to go from my garage panel to the spa.The garage panel is supplied by the main panel,15 feet away, by a 50A, #6 wire through 3/4”conduit.Can I go to a 60A at the main panel to feed the garage panel, so the spa has a dedicated 50A? I have a small mini fridge and small chest freezer in the garage, Any suggestions ? Thanks

  • @jimbutera6276
    @jimbutera6276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome job I been waiting for someone to wire in a sub panel so when I do mine I’ll be good to go

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank You.. it was a ton of work doing this video. I should have part #2 done in a couple of days. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @bryankloss8743
    @bryankloss8743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hot tub I have is a 3 wire. Do I still need a GFCI breaker in the disconnect box. If so just cap off the neutral wire at the tub end? How does the 3 wire work safety wise?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Call the office and talk to Scott and he will explain it ... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @bryankloss8743
      @bryankloss8743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spaman5440 Do you work at the Arizona spa factory?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bryankloss8743 Yes he does.

  • @mauriziobettoli7769
    @mauriziobettoli7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If my spa is a 2 pole + ground (no neutral) And my GFCI breaker is going to be in the sub panel, do I need to wire a neutral from the main to the sub panel? If not, where to unplug the GFCI breaker pig tail?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This has been coming up a lot lately... On a three wire Tub (two hots and a ground) you put the GFCI in the main Panel and wire the four wires to a Sub panel and from the Sub you would wire just the two hots and the ground to the Hot Tub

  • @ryoder6279
    @ryoder6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We bought a home that already had a 50 amp sub panel for a spa. It was installed using #6 Romex (~80ft) from main panel to sub. Outside the house the Romex is run through buried schedule 40 PVC conduit. You indicated Romex is problematic…why?
    Thx

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bare romex is not safe outside by itself. Inside pipe it is protected from damage, however, it will overheat if the pipe is not big enough to allow space for radiation dispersal. The gray area is if it’s underground, because if it’s deep enough to be cool, you might not have to worry about derating. When in doubt, you can always take the romex out of the pipe and remove the romex sheath (obviously leaving the individual wire sheaths intact) then run those regular wires back through the pipe. It kind of depends on how much of it is above ground like that. There’s a calculation rule in the NEC 2020 I think it has to be 5% or so of the entire run to not require derating. So for instance, if the run is 60ft and only 3ft is above ground, don’t worry about it.

  • @Smalltechguy
    @Smalltechguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gave you a thumbs up, but I am not going to attempt anything like this. That's what you guys are for. My main panel box is all filled up. I would like to get 220 installed but I have no idea if a bigger box is needed or add another box as you had done..

  • @franktrice1497
    @franktrice1497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question; In Maricopa County Arizona. Do you need to pull a permit to do the Electrical work, and does that work have to be done by a licensed electrician?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you call the County/City they are most likely going to say yes to the permit(Do your research) If it is a new build I get a permit if Im just adding...(LIKE IN THIS VIDEO ) I don't get one. Now I am not a Licensed electrician..But I have one on standby in case I run into any problem..It all get down to what you are doing and what you feel comfortable with doing...If you have more questions call the office and ask for Scott and he will lead you in the right direction...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @kennethsamuels8986
    @kennethsamuels8986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would you use number 4 wire from the sub panel to the main when from the sub panel to the spa only needs 6 wire?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You must not of watched the entire video serious... We put in the # 4 wire to the Sub and the Sub panel allowed for more breakers to be added because we were building an out door entertainment area with wet bar , TVs , Music , Lighting , We were not just powering up a Spa and at the time we were just powering up a small Spa..Thnks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @kennethsamuels8986
      @kennethsamuels8986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spaman5440 Thank you. I seem to have missed a part of it. Thank you very much for your response.

  • @Missin44
    @Missin44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not a plug-on neutral panel, availability, cost, etc? Do GFCI breakers even come with plug-on neutral?

  • @monroegibson8063
    @monroegibson8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Spa Man still around ? Great stuff Scott !!!!!!!

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes we are still fixing Spas...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @monroegibson8063
      @monroegibson8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spaman5440 Thank you again. I have enjoyed my cal spa 100% for the last 2 weeks. I am having trouble with my ph and alkali being to hi. Can u recomend best way to lower. I think my tap water here is the cause

  • @cryptotrader5326
    @cryptotrader5326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the reason you went 4 wire is it’s required if you go 60amp fuse and then you went 6 from sub panel to tub because you dropped to 50amp to hot tub

  • @jerryscholder462
    @jerryscholder462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much are materials generally to install wiring? What should labor cost for a short run to Hot Tub. 10'. My electrician quoted $800.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Um well I would need to know a few more details ...Call my office and ask for me and Ill see if I can get you going in the right direction.. Sounds a little high to me. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @bikeguy1961
    @bikeguy1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos But where do I get the Sealtight?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is a Link that I think will Help You...It comes with everything You will need...
      amzn.to/33ttduB
      Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @heroknaderi
    @heroknaderi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is very helpful I appreciate it plus I’m planning on doing this too 🤩

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to Help...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @jamesnathanjones
    @jamesnathanjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the conduit from the main to the sub have to be metal or can you use the liquidtight instead and still be up to code? Amazing work, liked and subscribed!

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      From the main to the sub you would use EMT above ground and SC40 grey for under ground... Seal tight is used from the sub to the Hot Tub only and you never bury it.. Seal tight is for short above ground runs only.. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @jamesnathanjones
      @jamesnathanjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spaman5440 thanks for clearing that up, much appreciated!

  • @user-wh3wz2kn4q
    @user-wh3wz2kn4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Subscribing now.
    Is there a reason why you are running metal conduit? I have a 45 foot run from main to sub panel and wondering if I can use ultralight non-metal liquid tight flexible conduit...

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve never seen non metal liquidtite, but if it’s delicate you’re probably ok running it overhead like he did in the eaves. You can also run pvc. But anything near the spa that can be stepped on or hit by gardeners you should make sure to use a durable conduit. Hope this helps.

  • @monroegibson8063
    @monroegibson8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    on the 4 gauge wire, what size is your conduit ????????????

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      One inch is what you would use for #4 Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @monroegibson8063
    @monroegibson8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you put all 4 gauge wires in 3/4 inch tubing ??????????

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No...Use 1 inch or 1 1/4 and it will work with ease...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @monroegibson8063
      @monroegibson8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spaman5440 Thanks again Sap man, your really great and helped me a great deal.

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Small diameter pipes will make the wire overheat, plus it’s harder to pull the wire through. Good rule of thumb is to keep a little more than half the pipe empty. Or learn to use the NEC 2020 to derate wire and size pipe if you want to do the bare minimum requirements in order to save a few bucks.

  • @theseattlegreen1871
    @theseattlegreen1871 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So you have 125 amp sub panel that you are running a two-pole 60 amp circuit breaker from your main panel to your sub panel. Why not just get a 60 amp subpanel? Why did you get a 125 amp subpanel?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  ปีที่แล้ว

      In the video I explain that I am not only going to have a spa hookup but I also have an outdoor kitchen and outdoor entertainment area and I want to make sure I had enough room in the panel for all of the breaker needed for the project. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @mps024
    @mps024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I appreciate your videos! Could you have put a ground rod next to or under the sub panel and feed the ground (green) there or do you have to run it to the ground in your main panel?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I alway run the ground from main to the sub no matter what with #6 THHN wire Ive had to fix several wiring job that tripped the breaker when turned on for the first time (home owner did the install or handy man) if you follow the guide lines from this video you will have no problems with your install or Hot Tub ... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Per the NEC 2020, we have to run the ground wire all the way back to the main panel. Using a ground rod at a sub panel or any other device located on the branch circuit will sometimes electrify the ground within a certain radius of the ground rod when a fault occurs. Then someone stepping in this area can get shocked or electrocuted if not wearing insulated shoes.

    • @mps024
      @mps024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andygigawatt7778 It's a good thing I ran mine back to my panel. My electrician was trying to put a ground rod under the sub panel and I wanted it running back to the main panel. So I ended up doing it myself the way I wanted it done.

  • @HAsamurri
    @HAsamurri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do we get ahold of you in Phoenix. Thank you

  • @johnkueny6502
    @johnkueny6502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One important thing you should mention just for safety is those two lugs at the top are ALWAYS HOT even if you turn off the main breaker. If you touch these lugs, it may kill you through electrocution.

  • @slightlystooopid420
    @slightlystooopid420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is every hot tub 50/60 amps if it's 220v?

  • @robertkaelin1443
    @robertkaelin1443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @Thackula
    @Thackula 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I use #6 wire from main to sub panel with a 25’ run? Also why use the all black and not color wire from main to sub? Thanks for the great videos ! Subscribed

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes as long as it is a 50 Amp run with a GFCI breaker you can use #6 wire from main to Sub for a 25 foot run....In this video I used #4 black wire from the main to the Sub because that is what I had and then I used phase tape to identify what each wire was. ..Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @Thackula
      @Thackula 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spaman5440 I should have mentioned it’s a 60 amp, electrician said 6 gauge would be fine but I remembered this video so I thought I’d ask

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thackula He might be right...As I've said in several videos Im not an electrician!! Now that being said...For a 50 Amp servive under 100 feet with a GFCI I use #6. Now for a 60 Amp service with GFCI I use #4.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a question what size service does the spa call for ? 50 or 60 ? If it calls for a 50 Amp service I would use #6 with GFCI breaker and if it calls for 60 Amp service I would use #4 with a GFCI breaker...Ive seen to many problems over the years with under sized wires and or breakers ..Hope this helped...

    • @Thackula
      @Thackula 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spaman5440 The hot tub is a Viking heritage 1 and calls for 60 amp, I’m going to get the #4 wire to go from breaker to spa disconnect to be safe. Thanks for your help!

  • @johnoneil227
    @johnoneil227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell me exactly what breaker you are using? Is it a 2 pole 60 amp?

  • @ispanksya1269
    @ispanksya1269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man i might be starting a job doing this this helps alot

  • @srmofoable
    @srmofoable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there any reason you wouldn't put the gfci breaker in the main instead of in the sub?
    Just seems more economical to buy 1 gfci to protect the entire sub and wiring versus a gfci for every circuit in the sub.
    My only experience with gfci is in the receptacles which I know can only protect a certain number of receptacles down stream. Is it the same principle for the breakers?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes you can put the GFCI in the main and install it that way... That is the way I installed mine. Now the only problem is a GFCI is very sensitive and sometimes the other things that are plugged in on that line will cause the breaker to trip...Its six of one and a half dozen of the other... Good question. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

    • @derek4844
      @derek4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plus the GCFI sub must be at least 5 feet from the hot tub per code but must be line of site so if an electrician is working on the hot tub they can observe if somebody attempts to trip the breaker back on. That's why the box is located near the hot tub and not back inside the service panel. But it has to be further than 5 ft due to water and that has to be horizontally distanced from the nearest water point.

  • @josephgraham1065
    @josephgraham1065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know you used 1 inch conduit because you used 4 Ga wire. Will 6 Ga wire fit inside 3/4 conduit? There would be 3 6 Ga wires and 1 8 Ga wire for ground. Thanks again.

    • @jeffschwartz9851
      @jeffschwartz9851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can fit 4 6awg in 3/4", you can fit 7 6awg in 1"

    • @josephgraham1065
      @josephgraham1065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffschwartz9851 thanks for the information I will be attempting this soon

  • @dannyjensen4954
    @dannyjensen4954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for this excellent video.

  • @saephan34
    @saephan34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of amp are you using for the 60 and 50? GFCI on both?

  • @joshuawade1074
    @joshuawade1074 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mentioned not to place the sub panel near a water spigot. Is this code? How far from the spigot is okay? I’m also in AZ. Thank you. Great video, very helpful.

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can’t find a good location for your sub panel other than near your water spigot, you can use a watertight panel and watertight connectors so no splashing gets in and blows the panel. Also a good idea to silicone seal the edge that backs to the wall.

  • @samkeino6810
    @samkeino6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought a hot tub (220 v). I have heard that I should not get “any” electrician, that I need an electrician experience in running wires for hot tubs and pools. How do I find such a person in Las Vegas?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ask them if they have done installs with Spa or Hot tubs and do they know how to hook up the GFCI correctly for a Spa..Ask them what are the last two jobs they did like yours and could you call those customers and ask how the job went..If you need more help you can alway call us and talk to Scott and he will help to put you on the right path..Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @edgarrodriguez1382
    @edgarrodriguez1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Voltage meter reads 240 from the line into spa panel however I am getting a read of 241 on the load side of the GFCI. The spa breaker trips when connected to the spa however does not trip when I disconnects the power to the spa. Is my GFCI bad. Everything is brand new, spa, spa panel, GFCI, wire to the main panel and main panel breaker.

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The GFCI might not be the correct type. Sometimes when motors startup they can trip a gfci due to the peak starting amps. The other possibility is that your spa may have a short somewhere (in the circuit area or the pump motor itself). Hopefully you have a warranty if it’s a short in the spa itself. Hope this helps.

    • @edgarrodriguez1382
      @edgarrodriguez1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andygigawatt7778 Thank you, new spa pack was ordered and scheduled to be installed this week, all under warranty.

  • @brucethompson4011
    @brucethompson4011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man. Your tutorial got me done! Excellent work and keep on giving to the community! Do you have a place where I can donate?

  • @patrickoneill3002
    @patrickoneill3002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you be available for an installation in Goodyear? How can I get in touch? Great videos!

  • @shehanedirmanasinghe630
    @shehanedirmanasinghe630 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Spa Man, I have a Hot-tub wired without a Neutral wire ( just 2 Hots and 1 Ground wire) from a Sub Panel, is it easy to just add the neutral wire or more involved . I am very confused now because my NEW Spa is requireing me to have a NEUTRAL WIRE...any help is appreciated THANKS IN ADVANCE !! [SUBSCRIBED WATCHER]

  • @jeremiahkendrick5366
    @jeremiahkendrick5366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did you use a 125amp sub panel when you only ran a 60amp breaker from your main?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For this install we only needed a 60 Service. In the Sub panel we will have a 50 Amp GFCI breaker for a Hot tub and then we are installing a 20 Amp breaker for LED lights , Ceiling Fin and an outlet. The reason for the 125 Sub Panel is I have tons of them so I use them all the time. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @franktrice1497
    @franktrice1497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: Your video showed how you used Red Head Hammer Set pins to mount the sub panel on a concrete wall. What would you use to mount the sub panel on a stucco wall?

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use the same hardware as they use for Drywall and other hollow walls.. These are the links for what I use.
      amzn.to/2SclkqK
      amzn.to/3tif79S
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      Hope this Helps...Thanks For Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @camarogs1
    @camarogs1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thought you said in another video you didn't like to use colored taped ends

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are 100 percent correct I did say that...If I'm wiring from the sub panel to the spa #6 wire is used most often and I am able to get the wires in Black Red White and Green.. When you wire from the main to a sub panel and you are using wire larger then #6 like in this video we ran a 60 Amp service so we used #4 wire and to my knowledge it only comes in black so we have to use Phase Tape.. Hope this Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING

  • @JoshuaJayNieto
    @JoshuaJayNieto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My electrician used aluminum wire from the main panel to the sub panel, is this okay? I plan on using copper from the sub panel to the spa pack.

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes this is OK as long as it is to CODE.. From the Sub I would run #6 THHN wire to the Spa

    • @andygigawatt7778
      @andygigawatt7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aluminum wire is allowed in some states (like Texas) and not allowed in other states (like California). It’s always safer to just use copper for the entire install, because aluminum can cause sparks, which is why states with fire issues have banned it. If your state allows it, be sure to use the anti oxidation gel on every termination.

  • @flyback777
    @flyback777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!! Much appreciated :)

    • @spaman5440
      @spaman5440  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for Watching & SCBSCRIBING