well that was a choice...*SHERLOCK S4*
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Throughout this whole show, I never was more disturbed than I was hearing this one sentence:
"We never had a dog."
when i first heard that my jaw was literally on the floor
i still shiver when i think about it
Really? That was kinda obvious
@@Dragonflee100 cool your smart and we’re dumb congratulations
@@penguin50279 that has nothing to do with being smart or not, thats the whole thing for a show like Sherlock, you don‘t just watch but you play along and try to guess whats going on.
Martin Freeman's acting at the end of 4x02 where he confesses he "cheated" on Mary will NEVER not make me cry.
One of the best performanced I've experienced watching tv. Ever.
Mycroft always breaks my heart in that last episode. The whole show he is shown to try and look after everyone and his mum doesn’t even acknowledge it - dismissing him and stating Sherlock to be the ‘grown up’ and completely failing to give any kudos to what mycroft has done for the family.
I think Microft is the one who is truly alone and thats why his sadness comes out in bitter patches
My favourite quote from these episodes:
"Taking your own life. Interesting expression - taking it from who? Once it's over, it's not you who'll miss it. Your own death is something that happens to everyone else. Your life is not your own. Keep your hands off it."
Benedict Cumberbatch delivers it so well.
100% agree. That quote got me through some dark times in my own life, and you're right Benedict Cumberbatch was phenomenal in that scene.
AGREED, my all time favourite line!
This is inspired by a quotation from "The Veiled Lodger":
_“Yes,” said the woman, “the case is closed.”_
_We had risen to go, but there was something in the woman’s voice which arrested Holmes’s attention. He turned swiftly upon her._
_“Your life is not your own,” he said. “Keep your hands off it.”_
_“What use is it to anyone?”_
_“How can you tell? The example of patient suffering is in itself the most precious of all lessons to an impatient world.”_
_The woman’s answer was a terrible one. She raised her veil and stepped forward into the light._
_“I wonder if you would bear it,” she said._
This quote really kept me from going down some dark paths
she has magic mind control powers and can enslave people just by talking to them but she was John's therapist for weeks or months talking privately with him and nobody brings up the possibility that she 'enslaved' John?
Fyi, Sherlock being an excellent fighter and Mary dying are both cannon to the original stories.
Also James' brother and his occupation were cannon.
Yup - canonically, in the original Sherlock Holmes stories and novels, he is a good martial-arts fighter, and was a bare-knuckle boxer when he was at university.
when you're that obnoxious, you gotta be good at trading some punches i guess
Discombobulate.
This shouldn't bother me this much - but it's CANON, not CANNON@@michelle6337
Fun Fact: At the very end, they run out of a building called Rathbone Place. In memory of Basil Rathbone, who was the first highly popular Sherlock Holmes. There were 14 Sherlock Holmes shot between 1939 and 1946 with him and Nigel Bruce as Dr. Watson.
Nat’s anger at the first episode is so relatable. I felt exactly the same way about all of it - John’s cheating was SO out of character - Sherlock’s arrogance to the point of Mary’s death, and just the fact the Mary dies even though it is canon in the books is all so maddening.
The fact you think it was out of character, kind of shows how people really don't understand the world pmsl
All the criminals are their twirling their moustaches. The child molesters are sweaty, ugly, disgusting men hiding near schools. The people who cheat are obvious and you can "tell". There's a reason why most crime is likely to be committed by someone close/you know/you trust. You can't tell, and if you think you can I hope you get lucky in life.
As for John, you mean the guy who dropped Mrs Hudson in an instant the second Sherlock was gone? He was loyal to Sherlock, but that is about all we know and the only time we witness another point where loyalty would be tested he failed instantly. Not only is the assumption generally stupid, it only partially fits the character shown.
@@wyterabitt2149 What the fuck are you talking about?
I was mad at Mary's death because it was SO. DUMB. the way they had written and staged it made it feel so forced and generally avoidable.
It was like "we need Mary to die somehow" but then they chose the worst way to kill her off, honestly.
Actually, John cheating in an emotional manner isn't necessarily out of character because he's not a perfect person. Any good or decent man or women is capable of cheating on people they love most given the right variables. Cheating happens in great and terrible relationships, with good and bad people alike.
John never physically cheated on her, and it doesn't seem like he truly wanted to. It was more that he was a bit bored in his relationship and took his relationship for granted. Also, he felt tremendous guilt for all of it and was traumatized to the point that he was partially seeing her because he cheated and never told her.
@@emantelololololol9199 He's talking about how people are complex creatures with strengths and weaknesses they themselves often don't anticipate.
We say someone's behaviour is 'out of character' without considering whether that person has even been in the situation before and acted differently. Many people think that they, or people that they know well, couldn't possibly act a certain way until it happens. Then, instead of thinking 'I guess I couldn't predict that person's behaviour as well as I thought I could' it's 'well this couldn't possibly be true because _I_ know them so well and _I_ didn't see it coming'.
It's an act of supreme arrogance to think you know somebody even better than they do themselves.
Oh, and I'm not usually one for giving advice but here goes; when you read something somebody has said and you don't understand it, it's not _always_ because they aren't making sense. Sometimes, hard as it may be to believe, it's a deficiency of comprehension on _your_ part. Just something to keep in mind.
The scene with Molly and Sherlock on the phone is still heartbreaking just because of how relentlessly cruel that it is to Molly. It's also nice to know that Sherlock recognizes that with his fury afterwards, it almost breaks him.
I think we understand this scene differently… there’s so much more((
When it happens in Episode 1, John and the woman on the bus is shocking. But then you learn who she is and most importantly, what she's capable of via a conversation. There's no reason not to believe she got in John's head the way she did the prison.
But that just boils down to the explanation being magic. Eurus’ abilities are simply not believable in the realistic-ish setting of the show. *Sherlock*’s deductions in the final season are already stretched beyond credulity, but what Eurus does is just plainly impossible.
“Sherlock’s secret witch sister made him do it” is just terrible writing. Imho the actors and crew were the saving grace here that made it watchable.
@@eypandabear7483 Oh, I'm not saying the story is flawless but just observing that you can extrapolate Eurus's actions on the guards onto John in Episode 1 too.
Sherlock never officially ‘ended’, the cast just became too famous and busy to all be free at the same time to make more. Then Una Stubbs died and they said it wouldn’t feel right making any more without her.
Bit of a hallmark for Steven Moffat's writing is that he's really good at provoking emotions out of his audience. So when he's good, he's amazing. But when it's bad, it still works but then you kinda feel manipulated after.
Yeah to be fair The Abominable Bride was mainly a fun excuse to set Sherlock in its canonical setting. But none of us knew they were going to tie it into the main series the way they did! We thought it would be the vacuum episode you described! So the first time jump was a surprise!
Not only was the "time jump" a surprise re-contextualization of what we were seeing in Sherlock's subconscious/Mind Palace, but Series 4 as a whole did it again as well. It pulled a 'Sixth Sense' and transformed the ENTIRETY of TAB into a story about Sherlock's subconscious trying to tell him about Euros ("Do Not Forget Me"/"Deep Waters" etc etc). It is TRULY an amazing piece of writing. And the most on-the-nose part was Sherlock saying "No one made me. I made me." to which, as a reply, we hear "Redbeard" whimpering - ie Sherlock's subconscious is basically screaming at him that someone else DID make him, and he has suppressed that knowledge completely (just like Henry Knight did in "Hounds of the Baskerville", both of them psychologically transforming a person into a dog in their "corrupted memories" - which is a neat way of turning what was originally an unrelated story into a case of massive foreshadowing).
That is why it was never just an "excuse to set Sherlock in its canonical setting". It was an excuse to explore Sherlock's psyche directly and learn that his sister is the 'ghost he made for himself'. The "ghost" who has not only 'defined his every sunny day', but who is the "shadow" that is the answer to the question "How is this [Moriarty's seeming return] possible?".
When I first watched Series 4, like many here, I was initially disappointed with it. It wasn't until I made a connection about Moriarity's seemingly throw away line about "The Hungry Donkey" to the philosophic problem of "Buridan's ###" (can't say the word here - its just another name for Donkey). It was only after I made that connection that all the other tumblers clicked into place, and I realized how *tightly* integrated the story of the *entirety* of Series 4 had been written. I've come to recognize the fact that *every* single scene in Series 4 - ALL of them - are explicit expressions of that theme.
I intend to post a separate comment to the video here *briefly* outlining what I'm talking about.
The Lying Detective is by far my favorite episode. Every single time it leaves me in tears and breaks me 😭
The villain in ep2 was based partially (at least his likeness, lank blonde hair and bad teeth) on a real-life villain named Jimmy Saville. Saville was a tv personality and presenter who was absolutely huge in the 80's, largely due to a show called "Jim'll Fix It". This was like a make a wish type setup, where kids in the UK would write in with their wishes that would then be made into realiity through the magic of TV budget and special effects. Soon after Saville died, rumours built to a point that could not be disregarded anymore and the public found out that Saville had been molesting children (including some of the "winners" on his show) for decades. And like usually happens, the people who made money off his fame turned a blind eye to his predations, or even actively surpressed any testimony from becoming public.
So while the villain in the episode was a different kind of monster, and the similarities were never overt, his portrayal made viewerrs who grew up watching Saville feel a subconcious disgust, and helped sell the character as true evil.
There is also a Jimmy Saville reference in Season 1. Sherlock references 'Jim'll fix it when talking about the 'favours' Moriarty (also a Jim) does for people. That episode came out before the scandal broke from memory but it makes it extra super chilling now.
I mean, it wasn't just rumours - they were *so* many signs, and, in classic British/English fashion, no-one wanted to talk about it. You can find footage of him interviewing the girls he molested in hospitals, and they fully state that he hurt them, and he just laughs it off.
Like, influential people getting away with their crimes is something that's been happening since... well, forever. You ever heard about Elizabeth Bathory? Gilles de Rais? It's not that dissimilar.
The key thing that links this story line to Jimmy Saville is not only did he use his fame and connections to power to hide in plain sight, but like in Ep2, Saville also used his hospital charity work to justify having a set of keys that would enable him to enter the children's ward any time he liked! Unbelievable but true.
I don't get why every reaction video just skips the part with Molly in this episode, this scene with coffin was one of the best in this season, show growth of Sherlock, that he really has emotions. Also acting in this scene was first class
ditto
I agree, it's really stupid that this was missed here, probably just to fish for patreon subs.
@@Starkiller2725lol so you think she purposely edited her reaction so that people would watch it, see their personal favorite scene is missing, sign up for the Patreon, all to watch a 60 second reaction to it and she can make an extra dollar? I didn’t realize Nat was such a high level marketing savant…
@@matthewjund3355 , I've noticed it in another reaction of hers to be the same. By same, i mean, missing out on some of the most talked about parts and I wouldn't put it past someone who makes money through patreon, to do something like that and have such moments in the uncut reactions there.
now that you're done with sherlock, doctor who (2005) would be a great show to start! It has the same writer as sherlock for season 5-10, and has the same cheeky british humor for the most part.
Oh my gosh yes!!!!
11/10 would totally be with you if you do get into doctor who omg
Omg yes Doctor Whooooo 🎉
This...
Yes Please!
I'm glad you watched this, and I'm glad you mostly enjoyed it. I was a little sad not to see your reaction to the sherlock and molly scene in the last episode, though, I felt like that'd be something you'd have responded to on some level, but maybe not as much as I'd have expected if it wasn't included? I'm not sure.
I was traveling for work during Series 4 and I remember my colleague inviting our group out for drinks and I told them I couldn't go because Episode 2 of Sherlock was dropping that night. So they all went out and I sat in my crappy hotel in Connecticut eating pizza and crying to Sherlock's breakdown.
John: Middle child. That explains a lot.
Natalie: It DOES explain a lot.
Me (a middle child): HEY!
😆🤣
Fun fact: 'It's never twins' is an inside joke that refers to the 'rules of detective fiction'.
Published in the 1920's, #10 read: "Twin brothers, and doubles generally, must not appear unless we have been duly prepared for them."
They thought an audience would feel duped if the solution to a murder was 'the (evil) twin did it'. Since you can't predict that while watching along.
It didn't stop some very succesful authors from doing just that, though...
Come to think of it: probably my favorite episode of Luther (which should most definitely be the next show you watch after this, also by the BBC) has a 'twin-element'.
Cough Marlene King Cough
Wasn't there a Sherlock Holmes story in which the answer to the mystery really was the unknown evil twin? A mirror-image twin, if I remember correctly.
In the books Sherlock is an expert boxer, so it does make sense he could go toe-to-toe with someone in a fight. It's just one of those skills he picked up among other things he is knowledgeable in. They just don't always show that in the series
Also the serial killer episode was such a creepy episode. It reminds me of a real life serial killer in America who purchased a hotel (1891 - 1894) and used it as a place to kill some of his hotel guests. This monster's name, co-incidently, was named H.H. Holmes. So the character who owned the hospital kind of mirrors that in a way, having a way to get people into his 'kill room' in the hospital.
The writers knew that! ❤😂😂
H.H Holmes was actually name-dropped in the episode so he was clearly on Steven Moffat's mind when he came up with this version of Culverton Smith (well, that and Jimmy Saville too)
Boxing isn’t quite as random for Sherlock as you may think as it was one of the quintessential sports for British gentlemen, particularly during the Victorian age.
I actually love series 4. Like yeah, it provokes emotions in me, specifically the 2nd episode and John's responses to Sherlock, but at the same time, you can understand because he's so deep in grief and guilt that he acts different. I really enjoyed all of series 4 though, and I don't understand why people hate it so much. I also love series 3 - it's my fave series, and has my fave episode of all in them (ep 2)! Hope you enjoy! 😊
THANK YOU. I honestly don’t see why everyone hates this season. Yes, John is less likable, but the rest I think is great
When these three episodes were first released, my response was similar to most here. Overall, I was disappointed with it. However, one of the lines in the finale unlocked the theme and meaning of the entire season and series for me. This line made me realize how *astonishingly* integrated *every* single action and every single scene was to that theme. It is a truly *breathtaking* artistic achievement.
That line is from when Moriarty first enters Sherrinford on Christmas Day and plays with nativity decorations, telling Mycroft:
"I wrote my own version of the Nativity when I was a child: The Hungry Donkey. It was a bit gorey. But if you're going to put a baby in a manger, you're asking for trouble."
Now that's a funny line. But it wasn't until I went to tell a friend about it that I realized 'The Hungry Donkey' is actually a reference to an example used in philosophy pertaining to morality and its use as a guide to human actions. It is more commonly known as Buridan's ### (can't say the word here). And the example is that of a hungry donkey placed equidistant between two bales of hay. In the example, the donkey starves because it has no means of choosing between the equal bales. It can't choose and thus dies.
Buridan summarized the problem thusly: "Should two courses be judged equal, then the Will cannot break the deadlock, all it can do is to suspend judgement until the circumstances change, and the right course of action is clear." - Jean Buridan, c. 1340
In other words, in the face of equal alternatives (of alternatives between which there is supposedly no difference), reason cannot guide one's choice. No *rational* choice can be made.
Reference to some standard OTHER than reason must be made.
That is the problem faced by Eurus. It is the source of her personal dilemma, as well as all the games she sets up. To her, there is no difference between the choices in the world (not even moral differences - she's too "clever" to fall for those 'subjective' - ie unreal - differences). So reason cannot tell her what to do. She needs something OTHER than her intellect - something other than her reasoning - to guide her (to help fly the plane, as it were). She needs *emotion* to help her. But she doesn't know how to use emotion AS her guide in these circumstances. Worse, the only emotions she's acutely aware of (loneliness and fear) leave her helpless.
In the simplest of terms, she's *stuck* Existentially.
Eurus' condition here is what the Existentialists identify as the individual's 'starting point' in life. It is sometimes called "the Existential Attitude": "a sense of disorientation, confusion, or dread in the face of an apparently meaningless or absurd world." (THAT is why this episode looks and feels like a Horror Film - and in fact draws from many of them - because that is supposedly the 'natural' condition of the individual - the state of things we face from the time we are children [which is why we are shown Eurus as a child - she's *still* stuck in that state. She is like that ALL the time. So what we are seeing in her is NOT a split personality, nor a mental illness, but the condition into which all humans are supposedly born].)
The episode goes on to show the solution to the Hungry Donkey - to THE Problem (which is why the episode is called "The Final Problem") - to this existential angst and despair - is the love of others. That IT is the only thing which provides meaning - provides "context" for action - for life. And that it is neither good nor bad. It just "is what it is"
Turns out, this episode (and Series 4 in general, including The Abominable Bride) is about the 'existential problem' and how to resolve it once and for all. And the reason the writers make this S4's focus is because, from its inception, the creators of "Sherlock" have explicitly stated that Sherlock is NOT "a good man". They have said the entire point of their show has been to 'humanize' Sherlock. Their goal has been to have Sherlock *learn* to be "a good man". And - for them - that means learning the truth about Existentialism and its solution (the love of others) is the definition of being "a good man" (and how disregard for this love produces nothing but destruction - see the show's villain and the death of Mary, caused by Sherlock's desire to *beat* [like a domin8trx] humans instead of loving [having empathy for] them).
This is why, when asked to summarize Series 4, Benedict Cumberbatch simply and directly stated:
"Love conquers all."
Since I can't write a treatise here, suffice to say this is just the tip of a VERY extensive iceberg about how the entirety of S4 is about the difference between sociopaths (supposedly Sherlock) and psychopaths (his villains in each episode) - that difference being the ability to love others (rather than treating them as nothing but "things") - and how that ability ultimately allows Sherlock to become "a good man".
Very interesting but that's not a solution. The world is not meaningless and love does not help those of us who are stuck similar to Eurus since it doesn't provide meaning as you describe, meaning is already everywhere.
There's a reason the show didn't get renewed: even the people who adored it couldn't overlook the blatant issues that had pervaded it from its inception onward. I remember watching season 4 (I think I got all the way through it), but it was so riddled with contrivances, ridiculous plotpoints, crummy characterisation, and stupidity that I've borderline blocked out what happened in it lol. What I do recall is that they teased Moriarty's re-appearance AGAIN at the end in the hopes that'd get people to be back on board for more of the nonsense. It's a nostalgic show that I do hold dear, but it it really did disappear up its own arse insofar as never to be found again.
Hey bleigh, I rarely respond to YT comments, but for yours I really have to.
I have watched the show a few years ago, didn't really think of it often, didn't really remember much other than that I like the acting of Benedict Cumberbatch.
Now, a few years later, I have found these reactions and thought, hey, why not, let's watch the reactions, seems like fun. It it was that, purely fun. I did remember some of the final plot points, especially as this reaction began, e.g. this crazy line "We never had a dog."
Not once has it come to my mind, that behind "Sherlock" lays such a deep, philosophical, beautiful really, meaning. I love it. THe actors were in on it. The writers have been amazing. And yes, shows with this intention, I think, tend to not be so popular, since they don't follow a typical structure, their story lines are not always purely logical (e.g. Why did Eurus not persuade John whilst their therapy sessions?, or many other questions pointed out but many other commentators here, and I am sure at multiple places on the internet). But I really find such shows really intriguing.
Just a few days ago I have watched "Detachment", maybe you know it, very good, in my opinion, I think a very unusual movie with complex characters and amazing actors.
Don't really know where I am going with this, sorry lol
Just wanted to thank you for your amazing comment, that has opened my eyes to the meaning :) I mean, love conquers all, right?
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps "That's not a solution."
I never claimed it was. One does not have to agree with the philosophy of a work of art in order to recognize an almost unequaled (certainly in tv) achievement in artistic integration of a work's theme into every part of its story. The level of artistry required to create such an achievement deserves both admiration and astonishment.
@@bleigh3369 _"I never claimed it was."_
Well, you... referenced it as one;
_"And - for them - that means learning the truth about Existentialism and its solution (the love of others) is the definition of"_
_"The level of artistry required to create such an achievement deserves both admiration and astonishment."_
Well, "requirement/need/necessity" and "deserving" are myths but I take your point.
Yeah. This is the great shark jumping of the show sadly. 'Let's make John cheat before his wife dies and give Sherlock an evil superpowered sister who devises a Saw trap for him because why not?'
Completely agree. What was great about the show in earlier seasons was the breakdown of how Sherlock solves the mystery. Here we’re just expected to buy it without any believable explanation how the sister could concoct such a plan.
@@lifathrosswell the earlier seasons had some pretty crummy/unengaging mystery writing, let's be fair. I think moreso thatt the characterisation was strong enough to get you invested in whatever the main boys were doing no matter how ridiculous/unsatisfyong it really was.
@@lifathross Typically in a mystery story, all the clues are presented to the audience so they have a chance to figure it out for themselves before the detective explains it at the end. But almost all the conclusions in the show are Sherlock revealing some piece of information that was never told to the audience and they had no way of knowing about. It's kinda cheap and not really great mystery writing.
In one of the early episodes, Sherlock is shooting letters into the wall. In the original story, he's shooting VR, which is an ultra Britishy British reference.
In the Cumberbatch show, you can argue it's for Victor Redbeard.
she didnt just play faith and the therapist but she was also the woman on the bus
41.53 my head cannon is that Mycroft, who is supposed to have all of Sherlocks potential abilities plus, is that Mycroft knew from the weight of the gun that there were multiple bullets and figured there would be an elimination round and began his campaign to make it easier for Sherlock.
Episode 2 is easily one of the 2 best episodes of the series (that ending was awesome!). I liked episode 3 more than almost anyone I've ever interacted with on the subject.
I personally have this weird thing with Sherlock where season 4 is the weakest season for me but at the same time S4 Episode 2 is the best episode of the whole show ;)
Me too 😢 I actually enjoyed the third episode a lot, because of the extensive Backstory, getting a look at Sherlocks Psyche and him ACTUALLY breaking down for once. (The scene we're he smashes the coffin after being forced to be cruel to Molly is so good!)
The thumbnail brought back all the memories of the end of this show 😂😂😂
So fun(?) fact: Martin Freeman and Amanda Abington were actually a couple in real life for quite a while - not married but had kids. I believe (if I remember correctly), they were either in the process of or had just recent completed their separation during this season, which I think just adds to the emotion your see in John’s face. He loves her but she has also caused him emotional pain (and vice versa).
He did say it kinda messed him up to film her death scene because he still had a love and respect for her as the mother of his children even if they didn't work out as a couple any more.
The first two episodes were truly good, and funny in a way, liked these two compared to the older ones.
for me, this last season was kind of just draining to watch. you mentioned the same thing at the end of the video. by the end of the season, i wasn’t emotionally invested by what was happening. there were so many twists and turns, some of them were successful but others were predictable or lazy storytelling. throughout the course of the show as a whole, there have been a few very good, dramatic cliffhangers and twists. obviously, the end of season 2 with sherlock’s “death” was just such a great finale. and then the writers fell into the trap that so many popular shows are susceptible to, where they need to one up the stakes and the drama with every season, every episode, every scene. there’s a certain point where it can’t go any higher and the narrative gets far too meta and it just starts eating itself. by the end of season 4, the characters i loved were making decisions that didn’t make sense, i couldn’t tell what was real or not real, nothing seemed important, and i was pretty annoyed. it was off putting, overall. I still wanted a more satisfying ending, and the show runners knew that’s how a large portion of the audience felt as well, so they’ve been vaguely teasing a continuation of the show ever since. they never officially put it in the ground, even though the last episode was pretty final. even as recent as a couple years ago, i was still hearing rumors of a season 5 in the works. it’s almost certainly not going to happen but one can dream. of course, it probably wouldn’t even be that good if they ever did make a season 5. it seems like the well (hah) of ideas has run dry.
A great show to start (if you haven't already) that would be pretty quick to get through is Good Omens! It's got 2 seasons out currently, and the third (and final) is set to start filming...sometime soon. It's based on a book by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman. S1 is based on the book, and s2...is meant to be a bridge between what Neil and Terry had talked about writing if they wrote a sequel book. And that's what s3 is going to be. Basically...it's got angels and demons...it's about armageddon and the antichrist, and...trying to stop the end of the world happening. That's just s1/the book. Not necessary to have read the book (but I will say HIGHLY recommend reading that, too...if you're into reading at all) But it's a fantastic show, it's fun and kinda silly...and...a lot of feelings. But I think you'd really, really enjoy it!! I'd also just...really love to see you react to it :3
Yes, that would be great!
Great reactions. It was fun to watch knowing the twists that were coming and how they shocked me too. It's also kinda weird that the best way to describe Sherlock's ultra fast thinking and analysis of probabilities is Dr. Strange looking in seconds at millions of possible outcomes of battling Thanos, and also played by Benedict Cumberbund. And since someone brought up the Marvel Universe.. Robert Downey Jr. does an excellent job of playing Sherlock in those 2 movies.
Cumberbatch, but yeah… 😂
Ian Mckellam said about Martin Freeman, that Martin was the only actor Ian knew where Martin would have two different thoughts at the same time, and you could read both on his face at the same time. After they worked together on The Hobbit. Others have said about Martin that he literally has a walk for everything, and he did study mime techniques in acting school.
I think that the acting in Sherlock is one of the things that make me always want to come back to it. The writing of Season 4 isn't as strong as in the first two seasons, but the acting I still think is really good!
I saw another comment saying it, but you should totally start watching Doctor Who (2005)!
It’s not exactly the same as Sherlock, but it has the same vibe and charm to it, and the same good ol’ British humour haha
The writer for Sherlock was even showrunner for Doctor Who for a time, and has written many incredible episodes for the show!
Sherlock had a gimmick and used it well the first couple of seasons, but it got too clever for itself and fell in love with its own style. It's a show that existed a season or two longer than it should've. Leave people wanting more with great memories instead of going "ohh... well that happened."
Blame Steven Moffat. He did the same thing with Doctor Who.
I strongly disagree
@@MontgomeryWenisbingo. Steven Moffat is the person to blame. ypu can compare his writing on sherlock to doctor who, starts off well then gets way to clever for it. Only reason he doesn't get more criticism for his last seasons of Doctor who was because Peter capaldi held that thing together.
@@itzbp9949 Cool, but you're in the minority. The showrunner did the same exact thing during his run with Dr Who. He has a great idea and then runs it into the ground by falling in love with his own wit and style.
@@swordmonkey6635 nah Chris chibnall did that too doctor who and now RTD is doing it to doctor who
Personally, I feel this season is special because it is a culmination of all the growth that Sherlock has had to go through. We get to see a more human, feeling side of him. It's incredibly hard to watch him and his friends suffer but there's so much meaning in it.
My favorite line is when Sherlock is called a good man, referencing the first season when it said that he is a great man, and one day might even be a good one ❤
"My favorite line is when Sherlock is called a good man, referencing the first season when it said that he is a great man, and one day might even be a good one"
It deserves to be a favorite. In fact, it is what the producers said was the reason they wrote the show - to present Sherlock's journey to becoming a "good man".
The line that always hits me is Sherlock saying to John "In saving my life she conferred a value on it. It is a currency I do not know how to spend."
I saw the final episode in cinema... here in UK. Packed auditorium. Full of excited fans. We were all broken at the end. Quiet. Not a word from anyone to each other as we all existed. It was quite shocking to witness it first hand like that.
I have seen the series myself few times since; and only once saw the final episode again. It was better than the heartbreaker it was the first time; but still it went way way waaaayyyy over the line.
But I still pretend BBC’s Sherlock ended at the 2nd episode of this season. Hence it’s still a legendary show to see.
The entire fandom was so shocked. I remember everyone desperately trying to put clues together to find the secret “real” finale
Actually, even in the old stories, Sherlock has always been quite good at combat.
Mostly in that old pugilist style. I think he knew that there was a chance he'd have to defend himself against the criminals he sniffs out.
Robert Downy Jr. did a good job demonstrating that.
Boxing was a popular sport for British gentlemen during the Victorian era in particular to engage in, so he likely learned it before deciding to become a detective.
aww you skipped the sherlock/molly scene. I was looking foward to that part 🤣
Finally ❤❤❤ it was fun revisiting Sherlock with you.
Now you should try Mr. Robot maybe??? That one could be a wild ride.
Sorry not alone
Omg mr robot would be an ideal follow up
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is that where he bangs agent carter, the actress from marvel? just remember some scenes online, or maybe another show?
Yes please!
Binged watch all your Sherlock videos this morning!
If you didn’t know - episode 2 is actually based on Jimmy Saville, the real life epitome of evil.
Natalie, would you watch the one with RDJ after finishing the series?
And then *Enola Holmes!*
Sian Brooke delivered a killer (wink-wink) performance by hiding in plain sight. It wasn't until my second watch of House of the Dragon that I realized she played Queen Aemma.
that's a great observation that every single time many things just became an act will take you out of the story such as sherlock died and came back and too many dream sequences but the series is good. there is a great theory for sherlock holmes is everything was happened in his mind not in actual life, there is no watson or anyone but he imagined everything in his mind. at last, mam your " i don't know " count in this video was hitting the roof."
IM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS !!
I JUST sat down to have lunch, this is perfect timing 🙌🏼
One show I think you'd really enjoy is Battlestar Galactica, don't let the name sway you. The show is (while not in tone) similar to Firefly in that it's a character driven/and rooted in reality that happens to also be a sci-fi. It would def be a longer show, but it does have a Mini Series that is the beginning you could use as a test as a gauge for yourself. I know anyone of us who have seen the show would vouche for it, it's by far one of the greatest sci-fi series ever made, (and in my honest and totally not biased opinion) just simply one of the best shows ever done.
Season 4 is not only bad, but imo it makes all the problems from 1-3 stand out so much more, that it makes the whole show super mid the more you think about it.
I miss Sherlock. ❤❤
Natalie you have become my fav reactor in no time! Can’t get enough of your videos ❤
I’m so glad you decided to finish Sherlock I love the show but I think we can all agree season 4 was the worst season, still a great show, if you’re looking for more series I would 100% recommend Good Omens
omg yes good omens
The scene at about 24 mins in the video was shot literally around the corner from my old studio in Cardiff, this bit of street's often been used in Doctor Who and His Dark Materials. I came flying around the corner on my bike early in the morning before they'd sorted out the set security and almost clattered into those saline bag stands.
oh dear
It's interesting in that they had to change a lot to make the stories contemporary, but the things they kept the same from the stories mostly revolve around Sherlock and Watson, outside of Eurus. Eurus was the one big change no one saw coming, so to speak. For Sherlock, in the stories, he's a good fighter, he has almost preternatural deductive reasoning, he has a brother Mycroft who "runs" the British government... all of that is the same. For John Watson, he was a Military Doctor who suffered in war, gets married to Mary, has a daughter, and eventually becomes a widower. So, I know you don't like it, but Mary dies. I like that they give her character much more to do in this show than in the original stories.
11:10 - Natalie: "It really makes no sense that Sherlock would be good at combat, y'know. You can't really be this smart AND good at fighting." INTELLIGENCE AND FIGHTING SKILLS CAN CO-EXIST IN ONE PERSON. Or do you really believe that 'smart people cannot fight, and competent fighters are unintelligent? In the original stories, Sherlock Holmes was an expert boxer and was schooled in the use of a fighting style called 'baritsu, proper name: 'bartitsu'. In the story entitled 'The Adventure of the Empty House',' first published in 1903, Conan Doyle had Holmes explain to Watson, 'I have some knowledge, how-ever, of baritsu, or the Japanese system of wrestling,which has more than once been very useful to me.'
I love all the seasons of sherlock. I've never understood why people don't like season 3 and 4. They're great. Just as great as the first two for me.
In the books Doyle often forgot things he'd previously written about John, including memorably once his full name, but another consequence of this is his wife's name changes, more than once, it's excused as remarriage at some point if I remember right, but yes it rather gives the impression when it came to women and marriage John was perhaps not the most diligent of husbands (I think he got through three by the end of the books, but one of them might be one of those Doyle opps I forget her name moments). Moffat takes these little meta-quirks of the originals a few times throughout and weaves them into some facet of the narrative, it's a lot of fun spotting them if you also know the originals stories.
Ahhh I’ve been waiting for Sherlock 🤭🤭
The final season is a wild ride 😭
honestly, i gladly rewatch only the first 7 episodes (the last one being the wedding episode) because what comes next is just too depressing and less authentic somehow...
Ahhhh I loved Sherlock I’m glad you’ve finally got to the end lmao x
I hope after this we get the Robert Downey Jr movies
Natalie, I absolutely love your reactions! ❤
My friend, who was a huge Sherlock fan, opted not to watch it to this point.
I'm pretty sure Cumberbatch and Freeman had opposing schedules also.
Sherlock has an extraordinary ability thats explained through knowledge and dedication.
Eurus just has superpowers, I genuinely believe she would best Marvel's Thanos and that's just stupid
This season just showed how the show runners had absolutely no real respect for the character of John Watson. He had absolutely no sense of control over most of his life because he was used mostly as a pawn in other peoples games.
Even worse, he went from being Sherlock’s partner to his sidekick.
Exactly. That's why the RDJ/Jude Law interpretations of these characters are so much better. You actually feel like they're equal partners in those movies.
His sister's brilliance goes over most people's head the first time they watch it me included. After a second watch it becomes less confusing and makes so much more sense and becomes clear just how next level her character was.
in the cannon, Holmes is a martial artist! He is very good at Baritsu. You have to read the book tho, Holmes is very unique character.
amazing video natalie and your dogs sweater is really cute
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On a previous video I mentioned how Sherlock did a lot of leg work when it came to solving crimes and helping Mycroft. In the novels he mentions to John that his memory palace has a plethora of information. The fighting style of baritsu (a gentleman’s fighting style) was integral in his line of work. He often found himself in dangerous scenarios, hence why John always carried a revolver and Sherlock had a cane (once again in the books) it was set in the Victorian era where canes and top hats were more accustom. Btw thank you to all those who read these. Sherlock Holmes is one of my all time favorite story book characters.
Omg!!! Finally! I couldn’t even wait. I commented before I even watched it. I will go watch now.
thank you for reacting to this show, seasons 1 & 2 are my faves, and the Abominable Bride. If you haven't seen them I hope you give the movies a shot (with Robert Downey Jr. & Jude Law) they were really well done too and very entertaining!
I think this series is why Elementary will always be my favourite adaptation of sherlock. For one, it has Lucy liu and I think everything can be approved with the existence of her, but it also earns the emotions it provokes much more than Sherlock. Perhaps just because it's longer.
I love how you have your two pet dogs on your shirt. Very cute
A weird thought I've had for a while, is that Moffat and Gatiss are trying to write characters whose intellect is far beyond the norm, and they're trying to make all these clever traps and connections. But... it doesn't really work. In trying to go highbrow, they overcomplicated it, and I think got lost in their own web.
Gatiss not so much, Moffat? Absolutely 😂😂😂 guy never met a story he could finish 😂
"You put that smirk away!" 😆
I remember watching this finale live, the Moriarty flash back was crazy it got my hopes up so high only for reality to bring it crashing down
The point of "The Abominable Bride" was that Moriarty could not be alive. Whatever was going on, the solution had to be something different.
"After eliminating the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the answer."
Was a bit odd that Nat still thought during all 3 episodes that Moriarty might still alive.
My favorite part: Sherlock trying to explain to Rosie that "If you want to keep the rattle, do not throw the rattle..." and then she bops him in the face with it. 🤣🤣🤣
omg finalyyy😭 this season is so good, I love Sherlock's character development in it so much
FINALLY :DD Perfect friday entertainment
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
As a man who still thinks about that girl who said my jacket looked good on me 12 years ago it is far too easy to become enthralled in the slightest intrest from outside sources
Oh I've been waiting for this
This series does decline but every episode has something worth seeing. Fan service is it's poison. BTW Nat, love your hair in the second part. ❤
11:21 - See RDJ version of Sherlock in Guy Ritchi's movies. Came before this one
The final problem is my all time favorite episode of any series. It's done so well. That moment when they revealed there was no glass separating them is amazing. I understand you can't include everything on you because of copyright I am curious what your reaction was to the second test with Molly where Sherlock loses his composure. It's such a gut wrenching moment but I feel like it helped make him relatable because that was more of a "normal reaction". The actress the portrayed Eurus did such an amazing job. That message from Mary still gets to. I loved watching all your reactions to this series and everything you do. I am sad Sherlock is done but excited to see what you will react to next. I hope you have a good day.
If I can recommend another British TV series, definitely check out Luther. It's a psychological crime thriller starring Idris Elba. Five seasons, but that's only 20 episodes total, plus a movie that came out last year.
I remember nothing from this season and rewatching it here - oh boy. Man what a horrible season. I'll go immediately back to not remembering anything from this lol
The fun thing about marys death scene is for me, that I heard some rumors that hers and martin (freeman) divorce was around this time of filming. So there got pictures out from this scene where it seems like he is smiling. So it is always hilarious for me because I am a Johnlock shipper and didn't even cried a single tear then xD
Sherlock being good at combat is canon from the books. ❤
"They're giving him a rope, but he's all chained up...?"
This is exactly why no one like season 4. It made everyone so mad. The storylines barely make sense, and all the characters are completely different; none of them feel like the characters we fell in love at the beginning.
The whole, "Ending Monologue with the Villain" part happens a lot in the stories from the books so it's a nice nod. I read them once during an inpatient stay. Usually the ending is Sherlock sitting with Watson and explaining how he figured out the story beats previously that we missed. Half the time it's after the conclusion of the case and just told like a retrospective. Granted the excessive cocaine use throughout got toned down a bit, haha. Now it's just on his darker moments.
I was OBSESSED with this show when it came out, and was so disappointed in how it dropped the ball in s4. THAT BEING SAID, if you're looking for a fun new British show with ✨️good vibes✨️, I literally can't recommend Good Omens enough. There are 2 seasons so far, and it's just been amazing so far. S3 has already been announced, and the writer (who is also the author of the original book, Neil Gaiman) has said that it's going to be the final part of a 3-act story. It's got David Tennant and Michael Sheen who have stellar chemistry, a super fun premise, and is just an all-around great time. I really think you'd love it, it's absolutely the current fandom darling lmao.
Lol the way you say "Whaaat" reminds me of the minions sometimes 😂
Steven Moffat really just wrote up an X-Men villain for this season lol. She knows everything about everyone, she can't feel pain, she constructs a decades-long plan with clairvoyance of the world outside, and essentially mind controls people if they aren't "smart enough to be immune," and the only paper-thin explanation we're given is "she's just that smart."
The only reasoning we get for her being evil is "She was a psychopath from childhood," but then later the show demands you feel sorry for her and excuse her actions. It's shallow, it's lazy and it's honestly really fanfic-y.
_"She knows everything about everyone"_
Since she runs the prison she can do research on anything she feels like.
_"she constructs a decades-long plan"_
Well, no, she's "re-using" something she did decades earlier as part of her current plan.