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Edison Polyphone Concert

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  • @ramonasidneybaker
    @ramonasidneybaker 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The tune is the widely recorded dance number from the early to mid 1890's called "Dancing on the Housetops". This tune was recorded by many house bands on brown wax cylinders.

  • @SearTrip
    @SearTrip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s a rare beastie, and a beautiful machine.

  • @DixiesNewSong
    @DixiesNewSong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What a beautiful sounding concert! So many of these machines suffer from speed stability issues but yours sounds dead on.

  • @roybo1930
    @roybo1930 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These 5" cylinders are just COOL! I Love the Copper Plumbing 45 angle pipe collar on the front horn! When it comes to putting these machines together, You gotta` do what You can do!

    • @Chungustav
      @Chungustav 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya I don think that was from the time period haha

  • @back2skooldaze
    @back2skooldaze 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I bet back in the day you had to be super rich to buy one of those!!! That must have been the top HI FI of its time :)

    • @lanchanoinguyen2914
      @lanchanoinguyen2914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      and now also

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      back2skooldaze back in 1900 these machines cost approx £2.2shillings in the Uk . That’s about £250 in today’s money . Although the average wage was
      Around £100 a year , so really only for the upper classes.

  • @johntyjp
    @johntyjp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    never thought I d see one of those in working order again!!

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Johnty J P there are quite a few on eBay. I’ve just bought a nice example with records.

    • @panda-goat
      @panda-goat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thekitowl edison cylinder phonographs yes, but not this model. the concert models (the ones that play the larger cylinders) are already difficult to find, but this one has 2 reproducers which makes it extremely rare.

  • @nathanmoser1
    @nathanmoser1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never knew a celluloid this size ever existed!

  • @clydesight
    @clydesight 10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That is an impressive machine. It sounds great for it's time and it looks wonderful. Clever way to imitate stereo also. Imagine back in the early 20th Century, the Edison Company came up with this idea. And we think we are so clever today! Thanks for the video!

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** They were also clever enough to electrocute an entire elephant to death :)

    • @clydesight
      @clydesight 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Alex Paulsen Yes, that is true and it is wasn't just an elephant that Edison and Co. killed in an attempt to make the public fear Westinghouse/Tesla's AC current. However, that has nothing to do with the invention of the "talking machine" and it in no way diminishes the achievement Edison made in sound recording. They are completely separate issues, especially since Edison "talking machines" were all wind-up!

    • @Chungustav
      @Chungustav 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Metal-Possum if you steal the invention of the light bulb, you are going to get some wrath

    • @davidlogansr8007
      @davidlogansr8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alex Paulsen using Tesla/Westinghouse alternating current to prove how dangerous A/C really is! Point taken by the Thousands of Lineman who died on the altar of “progress “!

    • @HMV101
      @HMV101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chungustav
      If you are implying that Edison ‘stole’ the idea of electric lighting, he didn't. While there were others, like Swann in Great Britain playing around with the idea, Edison was first to come up with a practical, affordable, safe and reliable domestic/industrial system.
      The outcome of others working on the problem around the same time were laboratory-bound curiosities by comparison.
      Edison developed a complete system including all the necessary plugs, sockets, switches, fuses, metering, wiring and other stuff now taken for granted. Safety was also uppermost in his mind which is why later he felt duty-bound to oppose the high tension system offered by Westinghouse. (In spite of the beliefs of his conspiracy theories disciples, Telsla had nothing to do with the development of alternating current. AC transmission technology was around and in use before was born).
      Of course, Edison failed to factor in the public’s allowance for ‘collateral damage’ where the thousands of fatalities due y high-tension distribution involving both electrcal workers and consumers was tolerated in exchange for lower power bills.

  • @bobbyroy84
    @bobbyroy84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Geeeze! These Cylinder`s were Big! This is just AWESOME! Guess They ran out of room to finish the song! I have several 78 RPM Records That do this! One is a Brunswick by Helen Morgan! "Winter Overnight" The Eccentric Groove hits the final Vibraphone note! A couple Brunswick Record`s I have The Final note is in the run in grooves! Old Records are AWESOME! Your Machine is BEAUTIFUL, And Strange with Two Sound boxes, And Horns!

  • @trixzitailz4151
    @trixzitailz4151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Used to collect phonos and cylinders even had a Columbia. Ag 5 inch machine and a number of 5 inch brown wax. Never heard a polyphone machine play before. Sounds good but I'll bet Sounds a lot better in person.

  • @BrucesPhonograph
    @BrucesPhonograph 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lambert cylinders were well ahead of their time when most cylinder recording was done on brown wax cylinders. The celluloid Lamberts also didn't harbor mold and effectively did not wear out. Concert Lambert cylinders are rare, rarer than normal Lamberts which are also seldom seen.

    • @therestorationofdrwho1865
      @therestorationofdrwho1865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are they made of?

    • @thenorthamericanphonograph1039
      @thenorthamericanphonograph1039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@therestorationofdrwho1865 Celluloid, which is a plastic made of camphor, nitric acid and cellulose (cotton fiber). It is an inflammable plastic, but makes a great record surface.

  • @CrisVangel1958
    @CrisVangel1958 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice! You never see those type of cylinders anywhere and even less, a machine to play them.. thank you!

  • @brentfisher902
    @brentfisher902 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This stereo like effect is referred to a "Duophonic" where the signal is delayed and fed into a nearby separate channel. In the 1960s there were near-stereo vinyl LP records of recordings that only exist in mono that were labeled as "Electronically re-channeled for stereo." Megasample Protracker Amiga MOD music often uses this effect to cut down on the file size. I suppose if you could invert the polarity of the signal coming from the horn you could play mains hum recordings without the hum if you got the delay down to 1/50th respectively 1/60 of a second.

    • @clydesight
      @clydesight 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info about "Duophonic". I have a bunch of records from the early 60's that are "Electronically enhanced for stereo". They never sounded quite like stereo, but had an interesting sound, none the less. I've played around with digital software (Audacity) and recorded one mono track, duped it to a second track and then offset the second track by 0,06 seconds. It gives a similar effect. Audacity is free, so anyone can try this trick!

    • @CrisVangel1958
      @CrisVangel1958 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a stereo-like effect at all, stereo implies a different signal to both channels, this is just feeding the same signal to both channels, maybe would give you a delay on one channel or echo, or perhaps just a bit more volume, but stereo, it is not, not even close. Electronically re-channeled for stereo records sound horrible, basically they send some frequencies to the right and other frequencies to the left, it hurts your ears to listen to after a few minutes.

    • @luvmyrecords
      @luvmyrecords 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Capitol Records actually marketed "Duophonic" records for a time.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clydesight I would keep mono compatibility and use the graphic equalizer

    • @bigcheeses
      @bigcheeses 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      in those 'electrically separated' recordings generally they'll put a band pass filter on it and pan some of the lower frequencies onto the left and some of the higher onto the right. Sometimes visa versa, other times a different blend. A lot of the time it sounds awful to my ears! Completely unnecessary and a clear cash grab. Much like some 'remastered' editions of songs or albums released recently. Some might be cleaned up but often they compress it no end and lose a lot of the dynamics

  • @gordonchadwell2412
    @gordonchadwell2412 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a Edison standard D which is for a cylinder machine, quite common. It works great. I also, like most people have a Cd player. I wonder how many Cd players. And how many Cds, will last the test of time, these remarkable machines have. I do not think many will.

  • @Christian-Klaff
    @Christian-Klaff 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was für ein traumhaft wundervoll einzigartig außergewöhnliches schönes Gerät! So was hätte ich auch gerne in meiner Sammlung!

  • @Borriaudio
    @Borriaudio 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice machine and Cylinder Lambert style (Edison Bell) concerts are certainly treasures. I make the brown wax, spiral core recording blanks. I will be soon in the market for an Edison concert Phonograph to make cylinders with.

  • @EmmetEarwax
    @EmmetEarwax 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These old phonographs - all bare machinery !

  • @antiquefreak3128
    @antiquefreak3128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic!!!

  • @musicom67
    @musicom67 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    early example of creating 'depth' in a recording by making a permanent delay-echo in all playback.... Also allowed them a new patent.

  • @back2skooldaze
    @back2skooldaze 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BEAUTIFUL That is an amazing machine :)

  • @nathanmoser1
    @nathanmoser1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Strange how it ends so abrubtly-

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nathan Moser because Edison saw no future in disc’s to store music on. He was wrong as records remained popular for years , stretching to just over 20m per side & in stereo to boot.

  • @MrPillowStudios
    @MrPillowStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome.

  • @HappyDiscoDeath
    @HappyDiscoDeath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's cool!

  • @GramophonicReevolution
    @GramophonicReevolution 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful

  • @MisterTalkingMachine
    @MisterTalkingMachine 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is not stereo, the polyphone has two reproducers on the same groove, they play the same sound two times with a little time between

  • @phonotical
    @phonotical 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good lord the original 'stereo' 😅

  • @BrunermanVideo
    @BrunermanVideo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow!

  • @justicia6841
    @justicia6841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HERMOSO

  • @EmmetEarwax
    @EmmetEarwax 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    c.1900 -and already fussing 'round with stereo. Well,color photograph actually preceded B & W photography, but didn't become economically feasible until into the 20th century !

  • @arnaldoalves1362
    @arnaldoalves1362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Se não fosse o Thomas Edison. Tava ruim ate hoje para se enventar coisa que fuciona. So chia porque agulha no começo não era apropiadas mas foi bom o começo.para hoje melhorar. E chia também por ta sujas as trilhas do sucos.aonde passa a agulha para tocar .ou gravou assim.mas hoje ja se pode fazer a mesma coisa. Mas com agulha apropiadas e gravação boa ai nem chia e ainda sai o som limpo sem xieiras.e eu particularmente eu gosto desse tipo de aparelho. Lembra a infância diferente. E época que as pessoas respeitava os outros. Pricipalmente os pais. E os mais velhos .e gostei desse Vídeo

  • @eugenchirila4285
    @eugenchirila4285 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Early STEREO era ! It is teh first gramophone STEREO. I'm joking, but I love it !.

    • @therestorationofdrwho1865
      @therestorationofdrwho1865 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait is it stereo?

    • @esroberto1
      @esroberto1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not exactly stereo, more like slapback delay effect; the comes out of the front horn a few milliseconds (sounds like about 40ms to me) before it comes out of the rear horn. Each horn has its own reproducer, arranged one after the other.

    • @davidlogansr8007
      @davidlogansr8007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Wright I suspect its more like a reverb effect that was so popular in the late ‘50s early ‘60’s. A close friend had one in his Mercury Comet Calliente’! It sounded spectacular on certain songs Miss Toni Fischer’s the Big Hurt, which he had on a 4track cartridge which was a predecessor of the ubiquitous 8 track of a few years later. It was dreadful however on Baseball games and “news” breaks! Fortunately you could turn it off or reduce its effects as it was a factory add on under the dash near the convertible top switch. I have only seen one other like it, also on a Mercury, a 1968 Mercury Marauder with the factory 429? V-8

  • @duttaluri
    @duttaluri 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how will it play stereo? because the grooves made by one needle will be cut off by the second one while making...so hwo is this possible? later stereo records have a V shaped grove on both sides the recordings were made..but this seems different..kindly thrwo some light..thanks

  • @Borriaudio
    @Borriaudio 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful Machine, do you have large horns (56") for it, Polyphones are awesome!

  • @MisterTalkingMachine
    @MisterTalkingMachine 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sorry if my english isn´t as good as yours, i usually talk (and write) in spanish

  • @RagtimeFreak86
    @RagtimeFreak86 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool machine! But whats the name of that fun tune???

  • @michaelmcgee8543
    @michaelmcgee8543 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the impression this was enhanced with plug in electricity cause the cylinder was playing so smooth.this seems to be an early form of hi fi sound.not stereo but mono hi fi. Primitive version

    • @thenorthamericanphonograph1039
      @thenorthamericanphonograph1039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The motor of this machine has 3 large springs, it can play about 8 of the large 5" cylinders per full wind. So it can run for about 20 minutes on a winding.

  • @therestorationofdrwho1865
    @therestorationofdrwho1865 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is it recorded onto?

  • @gabrielepasqualoni7362
    @gabrielepasqualoni7362 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stereo ???

    • @Altchannel2988
      @Altchannel2988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gabriele Pasqualoni no not stereo. The needles play the same groove but with a tiny delay so you get a sort of echo and effect

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