This is what I like about you You keep it real. No disrespect but Mr Westek Just glossed over everything and just heaped nothing but praise on these bundles in his video and I kept rolling my eyes thinking.. seriously dude?
Mr. Westek is the biggest Bethesda bootlicker and a phony fallout 76 player all he does is continuously grind Westek to get to bonus page 2 in the scoreboard and has who knows how many Atoms to spend so he could care less what's worth it or not plus he's so greedy he gets followers to gift him stuff so he can do videos on useless topics for views.
Not to bash Mr Westek, he has good guides sometimes but he definitely looks at the whole game and atom shop through rose tinted glasses. Even when he "criticizes" Bethesda he will still praise them. There isn't "true" criticism, its to keep in good graces for both sides while only slightly pointing out the MAJOR problems dubious actions (if that). Its what drove me away from his videos.
I never look at bundles so I had no idea how messed up they were. Appreciate you getting the word out so people don’t waste their money, because it does get confusing when comparing those lists to the photos of you don’t know the names of things.
@@hokie97lvt their bundles are always horribly imaged. I always look at the item list first. Sometimes you get lucky and the bundle is actually filled with things you want.
sad reality is its true, all these games bank on the room temperature iq whales buying enough shit that they can completely ignore 99% of the playerbase
@@vapidvalentine Not to defend the nonsense but.... my guess is with all the budget cuts there's probably one frazzled person trying to do 12 jobs sitting there saying "give me a break dudes." 🤣
For those wondering. The chalkboard set doesn't work. The yellow pa display from the brotherhood set doesn't work and won't turn on the lights. The enclave doors don't open. And so on.
The enclave doors open up but you need to click it like 3 times lol it's bugged like a bunch of other things in the game. I had it in my base and had to click it open then look away and click again and then once more and it would finally open up lol
You are the absolute best! I canceled my fallout 1st, made a Steam account, cancelled game pass and I have found a way to get everything I need free inside the game.
Preach. I've only been playing this game for 6 months and I've already run out of patience with the Atom shop - it's a confusing mess, misleading, and overpriced. Your honesty at calling out Bethesda's bullshittery is very much appreciated 👍
10:02 that Brotherhood chassis display frame that looks like a power armor station has an issue where it floats like 6 inches above the ground, even placed on a foundation. it's even visible in the screenshot they used in the atom shop. just a headsup for anyone that wants that one, I had to do a little foundation merge to get mine to sit on the ground and not look fucking haunted
Here is the thing... Mr. Church is ornery. He is livid. He is sarcastic. His mouth is foul. He also really knows what he is talking about and is _not_ wrong. Also, I'm in for the 4 more hours of bitching, it's kinda why I come here.
You're the best Mister Church and I'm sure you just saved some poor unsuspecting people a whole lot of money in the leadup to the Holiday Season. They certainly won't be seeing any money from me. 💗
That enclave suit that you pointed out is indeed showing the enclave paint for the pipboy (I bought all of these items separately and assumed it was for the suit when I bought it)
I'll never understand why they cannot add all the items individually instead of forcing me to spend 1500 atoms for a bundle, when I only want 1 item from it
Man... Loved your video. I really appreciate your honesty. Thanks, sir. And a tip, if you are with the Circuit Breaker equipped and use the throw knife, while you don't have any ammo for the pistol, the stun effect will always trigger when you hit an enemy
The thing is... Bethesda is hurting themselves. I am a willing and ready buyer but didn't jump on any of these bundles because they are packed with junk and are overpriced. Huge missed opportunity for them, and I am sitting here begging for them to get it right
Shame, that I am unable to like this video more than once. This needs to be shared and spread across the Fallout Community. I have no comments about the content of this video, that would not break TH-cam guidelines. Thank you for the video and pure honesty Mister Church. Safe Comment. BTW, the picture in the Hideaway Bundle that is just black. That is the glow in the dark item, please note though, the Fallout 76 team are aware and are working to fix the issue.
This happens to be, one of the best examples of one of them there thingy-mabobs, which happen to Be known, As far as I am aware, as a criminally underrated TH-cam channel.
I think that scribble head is definitely predatory.. only reason I was thinking of getting this .. n the PA of course. Thank you for being that to attention!
THANK YOU for going off on these pathetic people who do the store. It's truly insulting to us who spend our hard earned money on this game that crashes every half hour.
With how they handle this game, I think it's the opposite. It's not stupidity or incompetence, it's for sure intentional to milk as much money out of people as possible. Just like how there's no buy confirmation on the atom shop. A lot of people are probably burning their atoms through accidental purchases and not bothering to get refunds.
I was most disappointed to not see any thanksgiving related items. The corn husks, Thanksgiving tables, Thanksgiving corn husk wreath, fancy Thanksgiving display case.. Nothing. We quite literally got nothing for Thanksgiving ON the week of Thanksgiving. As someone who really upped their game on builds this year I was really looking forward to that stuff but.. Nope.
These bundles were overpriced insults to the players. Pure cash grabs. Acting like this is a sale, much less a “Black Friday” super sale shows how little they respect the intelligence of the players. It reminds me of the sponsor in the Wayne’s World movie. That’s how little the guys who created these bundles thinks of us.
Excellent insights on so many items: the reasons why you might or might not want them, how to use them or how to get them in other ways👍🏼 Really excellent coverage of items and also pointing out where Beth shows no scruples! W’s to V for her awesomeness!😻 Hope you had some calming camomile tea with your Pepperidge Farm cookies to soothe your seething angst afterwards! My fav is Brussels …with ice cold milk!🥛
Thank you for the information. The Atomic Shop was so confusing today. Some pictures showed stuff that wasn't mentioned anywhere in the bundle. Such stupidity Bethesda. And no, I am not spending a single Atom on this stuff. I noticed that Slocum's Joe picture in that bundle but none of the items are in the bundle, what a joke.
Completely Agree with everything your saying😁🇬🇧👍🏻Such an Overpriced rip off! The pictures NEVER lining up with the items drives me mad aswel, Really wanted the Sap Tree but disappointed i've gotta buy a whole bundle just to get it, really don't understand why they haven't made a catalogue yet, i wait i DO we all know because 11.99 isn't enough! We gotta buy baundles we don't want😡
Yeah, i agree fully with this review on this. Half the stuff isn't show cased, some stuff barely makes sense. Also crazy thing bethesda, i would buy these items separately, the raider bundle i want parts of the whole set for me is 1.8k because i like and own a lot the raider stuff but i'm not paying 1.8k atoms for 2-3 items i would buy separately. For the love of god bethesda bundles are meant to be "you can buy these separate or maybe drop extra money and also get these things." not these are all we're selling. The amount of money they are wasting because guess what, we're not paying 55 USD for a bundle when we want 2 things. We'd buy those two things, you're market hasn't gone up because you bundled things. All you've done is alienate you're smaller fish for you're complete loss of profit this quarter, you're whales already have these set pieces because they bought them already or request them from the website. Legit Bethesda if you watch or read these things fire you're marketing team, fuck sakes. FOMO which seems to be their whole code and way, makes no sense when the missing out is only effecting you're main source of money. Housing. This. Is. Bad. Marketing. how many branches does bethesda need to shut down before they realize this.
Yeah Bethesdas been shitting the bed for a minute now, next season looks pretty bad and I’m pretty excited about the few enclave themed items. Somebody showed how the scoreboards items are less valuable than implied or something the whole situation makes you wonder why, when they have a product that can sell itself. The cons outweigh the pros, EA found that out infamously with battlefront 2
The people who Be-the-sad have making these for the Atomic Shop don't even bother to take pictures for these items. They simply search though existing photos and drop them in, regardless of whether they are the best of really appropriate for the item. It is basically the very least amount of effort that they could possibly do. And it would be awesome if they could have whoever runs the Atomic Shop have a background in PR & Marketing so that they can understand how to actually sell anything.
In response to this I dropped the following in the Bethesda Discord suggestion box [Suggestion] Put the names of the items in the pictures for the items in the Atom Shop - particularly the bundles. Whoever is putting these bundles together is not putting preview images into the same order as the product listings at the bottom. Further, items are being displayed in bundles that are not actually in the bundles, and having the name of the item in the picture itself would make that easier for the staff to spot check for this mistake. And I do believe that this is an honest mistake born of being rushed. That said, continuing to make mistakes like this invites litigation from lawyers who's entire business model is filing class action lawsuits to harass large companies over issues like this. Put the names on the pictures both for us the customers but also to keep your own fat out of the fire as it were. Class action lawsuits are a cruel joke that only makes money for lawyers and does not benefit consumers in any way. I don't want to see one here but I see the risk of one. Now, we see if what they do. I've screenshot the post so if the mods delete it I will report to Steam as such a deletion can be read as a policy to defraud the customer, and Valve has been cracking down hard on that as of late.
I agree and appreciate you submitting that. Unfortunately the ZeniMax Terms of Service (or EULA, I forget which it's called), that we all have to agree to in order to play, specifically blocks any class action lawsuits. We can't bring anything to court on Bethesda or ZeniMax, it all has to go through arbitration out of court. But even then the ToS explicitly makes us agree that we do not own any of the content that we "purchase" and that ZeniMax/Bethesda can change anything at any time with no notice. I read through it and it's crazy stuff that more and more companies are doing in no uncertain legal terms to protect them from any liability of their predatory, anti-consumer practices.
Chuckled at the woodland hideaway review for sure.. the attic is near height limit and its hard to build up there. Definitely too big! Love your reviews, thanks for always helping me maximize atoms! Hoping we see improvements to the store structure/photos too
This video actually made me angry for a minute. Usually I smh and just say, "Of course, that's Bethesda." This time there were so many instances in one Atom Shop update that it pissed me off. Imbicility Billy is at it again. I never wish for people to lose their jobs, but seeing how many talented and hard working people have lost theirs in recent years, and realizing this stuff happens so often in 76... They must be super lucky, or their bosses don't know enough to care, or care enough to know. Like I said, Bethesda. Great vid, Church! You made me laugh through my annoyance several times...annoyance about the bundles, not because the video is nearly 35 minutes long!
Righteous rant, I lol'd at the haunted house window boards. The shop has been a dumpster fire forever, but they took it to 11 for Black Friday. And imbecility is a perfectly cromulent word.
Between this kind of awful monetization and how much they have been breaking the game I was ready to drop my first. I didn't even realize some of the things locked behind first. Atoms on the scoreboard requiring first is outrageous.
Hey, I went to special ed classes back in high school because I never did my homework. After watching this, I feel like I've got a sporting chance at working for Bethesda. Your videos make me laugh and cry. You make sad realities fucking hilarious!
And because some of the playerbase are sorry enough saps that don't know how to handle money or are gargantuan mega whales, this predatory marketing will continue. People should be able to make whatever choices they want, but there NEEDS to be governmental restrictions and regulations to prevent companies from committing obvious malpractice. If monopolies are illegal, then how in the hell is this sort of scum allowed?
I purchased a BOS bundle at 50% off a few months ago and it came with the concrete tires, Slocum Joe coffee machine, broken radio, and I want to say the Scouting Tower so they just copied and pasted that bundle into the current sale one; sheer incompetence. The only thing I'm buying is the new camp slot and maybe a new loadout. Thanks for the video and take care.
I thought the concrete tires should have been rubber instead with the concrete holding them together. It's like they don't give any thought on how they would have built them in the first place....lazy!
Those walls in the BOS (BS) pack is the "Cement Filled Tire Set" IIRC. And, yes, it is illegal to advertise something, but not give it. They get a loophole through also listing items. The problem, which COULD be used to prove the false advertising/marketing, is that none of the picture also have those listed items IN the picture, so it leaves people having to decipher the puzzle of 'which items are which pictures'. None of the listed items have descriptions, either. So, the list is basically worthless. Players use the images to figure out what they want, and BGS knows this. Well, either they KNOW it (and are guilty of predatory marketing), or they somehow still don't know (after multiple years of people pointing it out to them), and they should NOT be allowed to continue selling anything until they go through several months of proper training on marketing, ethics, etc.
Glad someone was serious about this. Like the next update is buffing melee players. NOT ONE MELEE WEAPON SKIN. MELEE IS ALL I DO!!! Ngl I would’ve bought a “ROCK” if it was a power fist skin. Whoever put this stuff out for “Black Friday” needs to be demoted.
Honestly, since I’ve put a pause on building in this game because of the ridiculously small budget and the complete MESS of the build menu, I’m grateful that this “Sale” is absurd and the list is unreadable. I was even hoping that the Camp Slots would finally be 50% off again, but nope! What they need to do is temporarily hire a team that can completely overhaul the Build Menu and Atomic Shop! I could see them being able to fix it by the start of Season 20, if not by the Mid-Season Update with the right people. But something REALLY needs to be done about BOTH!!
The thing that’s crazy to me is that they would make more money if they sold everything individually, and took good pictures of the stuff, and made it actually look desirable. Sometimes people might get stuff they wouldn’t otherwise bc of the bundle, but also sometimes people DONT get stuff they otherwise would bc of the same reason
@ that and the fact that a lot of these bundles have things I already own, but don’t recognize that and apply the adjustment like it supposed to, so I don’t buy the bundle
Amazing job once again. I love the honesty of your reviews. Your video review was the 1st thing I watched this morning. One item you didn't mention (how could you, there was too many other fuck ups) was in the Raider Bundle, the glow in the dark skull flares. They are not shown glowing, wasted selling point. Otherwise keep doing these please!
I bought 1 bundle, 900 atoms I think. The one with the signs and the junk car. Perfect for my scrappy camp. I will say this. I would've spent SO MUCH MORE money if this was a crazy big list of individual items. The nuka truck and wagon stand out. Some pip boy skins, just too much to type it all. They shoot themselves in the foot, but im sure they have metrics of who buys what and how so the fact they keep doing bundles mean people pay.
Or the store does have bread but if you want it you must also buy Milk, eggs, cheese, broccoli and mayonnaise. You don't want those things but you can't buy the bread separately.
I think I'm just fucking done, honestly. I have 1500 ATOMs to my name and MIGHT purchase the season pass to finish out the current season, then blow those ATOMs on whatever, then bounce. I'm just so sick of their unending enshitification year after year. Animal Crossing Pocket Camp came out at almost the same time and is ending service tomorrow, and I'm actuality going to miss *that* game while the bottomless greed and nonexistent bug fixes in this one are just infuriating.
I want those big vault boy and vault girl big heads so bad I would've bought that raider bundle. You do a BETTER job on atom shop than anyone else. I'll watch your recaps when I don't get a chance on Tuesdays to get on. Way better than people that just circle jerk Bethesda
I think you can request those through the support tab currently, and just get those heads by themselves. Im not sure how many Atoms it would be by itself (I haven't finished the video yet/looked at the shop to see if they are listed solo. But I saw them on the drop down menu today in the request menu!)
The personal they got working for them doesn't give me confidence that this game is long for the world. I love how the next update will be all about raids...but we will only have one "raid" for the foreseeable future..
When I first started playing I saw the union something or another add on you could buy for 35 dollars. The description said Union Steel Worker power armer set. Something like that, I forget the exact name. Coming from fallout 4 I thought that meant a set of unique power armor. I didn't know it was just a paint set. I wrote them and said how this is misleading and that I feel like they were counting on newbies like me to be fooled. I told them that the wording makes it sound like something that it is not. Well, the next bundle they posted, the one on there now, says power armor paint. So at least for that one instance, they listened. The issues noted here are along the sameines though. It's false or misleading advertisement. They'll keep doing it until a class action gets filed.
Thank you. As a somewhat newer player i dont know enough about the items to make sense of the photos and the list of items, it was all confusing and didn't seem to add up in places. Guess i was right about that. Terrible marketing, i will spend 0 if i cant figure out what your selling.
LMAO... your so right.. I so hope they see this video. It's really getting old to have all these pics in atom shop and them not be I n bundle. Also there is always stuff in bundles that I have they don't mark as I already own. Really how hard could it be to take pics of item place them in order with description... Your spot on.
Only bought the black Friday bundle because ive been waiting for the glow in the dark wallpaper. Of course it hasnt been available for a long time and now it is you have to buy a ton of other stuff with it
The circuit breaker last round effect works with thrown weapons, and will trigger every hit. Bashing also triggers on hit. I've been putting together a bash+throw build.
Thank you so so much for ranting the same exact shit I thought when I looked in the atomic shop today (excitedly bc it's supposed to be the black Friday update.) Nothing but crap, and expensive AF. They make me want to quit playing.
At this point being a fallout 76 player Is effectively like being in an abusive relationship ,their attempt to target new players is harming not only them but older players too .The new show was a blessing but a curse in some aspects .
Thank you for this great video and your honest opinion its so refreshing to see you call Bethesda out on its atom shop items. I have subscribed just after waiting half of this video. Keep up the good content 👌 👍
@@misterchurch666 would be nice if they stated the max ive been maxed for years they then sent me a special offer of an extra slot for peanuts when i didnt recive i asked for atoms back
My favorite part about the atom shop is if you get off the featured tab and go to say the camp tab and you make sure show owned items is on you'll notice that basically everything you have bought in the item shop has its own entry featuring a picture showing the exact item with a nice transparent background. My question has always been why the fuck do the bundles not use these pictures?????? Edit: i was curious i own the stupid jetpack he talks about at 8:30 and woah what do you know it has a picture showing exactly what it looks like in my owned items. Why does the bundle not show this???
Circuit breaker is a scoreboard item. Your right about owned items. there's quite a of things I already own but show that I don't. Had to read carefully. Not spending this week. Thank you for clarifying 😊
The work experience kid is in charge of the atom shop and floor decor tab. Buying stuff direct from Bethesda is a head fuck but less insulting. Your the best Mr Church 😊
It would be great if Beth saw your videos and were like “oh shit we could do better”. But nah, why improve? I’m a newish player, may 2024, and I don’t have any of this stuff. And won’t. Their bundles are absolute bullshit. And I’m someone who can and has willingly dropped $50+ for in game items over my 20+ years of gaming. So it’s not that the cost is prohibitive. It’s that they really just shove 20 pounds of crap in a 5 pound bag and charge 50 bucks for it. I went from dropping about $50 a month on the shop each month to $0 in the past month or so. I may see one or two cool items, but can’t see buying anything anymore. Their focus is making money - I get it, they have owners and shareholders to pay - but find a way to sell me something valuable.
@@Oldmanmatt I genuinely believe they’d have more sales if they sold stuff individually. There’s a bunch of stuff in each bundle I wouldn’t mind having
I wouldn't be surprised if the person who did that planned to shit in Bethesda's bed just before leaving on a long vacation. They use up all their vacation time, and while out transfer their 401K out of Bethesda's control 'cause they have no intention to ever return to work.
The free states bundles are pissing me off, this is the third time I've seen one that heavily, HEAVILY promotes the bundle with pics of the revolutionary outfit while not actually having it in the actual bundle. I wish by some Christmas miracle we get some out of nowhere law that hits Bethesda in the face and forces them to show the pictures of items by themselves without other items included. (they even put that damned revolutionary outfit in the BoS bundel, LMAO)
@@misterchurch666 It's the free states "survivalist" outfit, which looks fine but if you google it you get mostly the revolutionary outfit pics instead and, again, all the pics with the outfits (90%) are NOT the outfit that comes with. It also doesn't show you the hat because the "free states" hat is literally a Garrahan mining hat that has no free state anything on it. The only reason there's so much stuff in the list is because 70% of it is just that one sign in different colors.
I dont understand why they can't take good screenshots and put them in the correct fucking order. How difficult is it? Seriously? This fucking atom shop is the only thing that keeps the game alive and they ask a good bit for each of these things. Its almost down right disrespectful to not at least have one fucking dude who is supposed to go through these things before they put them up to make sure everything is nice and clearly marked.. like maybe the picture isn't all that clear.. how about you drop some text ON THE PICTURE at the bottom somewhere that says what its supposed to be showing you. its insanity that this sort of shit isn't cleaned up.
That pause at the huanted house comment is hilariously the most single greatest pause I've ever heard and felt. 😅
🤣 video would only be 20 mins if I had cut that out
there's a lot of crickets outside my room right now
and all I could hear during that were the crickets
that's cinema
I had to check and make sure the video didn’t pause itself or buffer.
@@user-cz9jf1ec8s Same. Literally reached for the play button.
I can't wait to build those haunted houses of the brotherhood of steel in my camp!
This is what I like about you You keep it real. No disrespect but Mr Westek Just glossed over everything and just heaped nothing but praise on these bundles in his video and I kept rolling my eyes thinking.. seriously dude?
Mr. Westek is the biggest Bethesda bootlicker and a phony fallout 76 player all he does is continuously grind Westek to get to bonus page 2 in the scoreboard and has who knows how many Atoms to spend so he could care less what's worth it or not plus he's so greedy he gets followers to gift him stuff so he can do videos on useless topics for views.
mr west tek is atom grifter
Mr West Tek is an employee he's not one of us lol 😂
Not to bash Mr Westek, he has good guides sometimes but he definitely looks at the whole game and atom shop through rose tinted glasses. Even when he "criticizes" Bethesda he will still praise them. There isn't "true" criticism, its to keep in good graces for both sides while only slightly pointing out the MAJOR problems dubious actions (if that). Its what drove me away from his videos.
I never look at bundles so I had no idea how messed up they were. Appreciate you getting the word out so people don’t waste their money, because it does get confusing when comparing those lists to the photos of you don’t know the names of things.
It’s almost overwhelmingly bad, it was hard to know where to begin
@@hokie97lvt their bundles are always horribly imaged. I always look at the item list first. Sometimes you get lucky and the bundle is actually filled with things you want.
I’m genuinely convinced that their workplace motto is “don’t worry, they’ll buy it regardless!”
I sob bc their vault tec poster probably does say that and weep because true
sad reality is its true, all these games bank on the room temperature iq whales buying enough shit that they can completely ignore 99% of the playerbase
like hundreds of t-45 skins and terrible camp budgets
@@vapidvalentine Not to defend the nonsense but.... my guess is with all the budget cuts there's probably one frazzled person trying to do 12 jobs sitting there saying "give me a break dudes." 🤣
@@whytchywooo I work for the government, doing 12 jobs at once sounds about right. We can talk about pay in the next video chat 🤣
You are being too kind. It's NOT incompetence; it's deliberate. We know this because they KEEP DOING IT.
For those wondering. The chalkboard set doesn't work. The yellow pa display from the brotherhood set doesn't work and won't turn on the lights. The enclave doors don't open. And so on.
Of course they don't, ffs Bethesda...
The enclave doors open up but you need to click it like 3 times lol it's bugged like a bunch of other things in the game. I had it in my base and had to click it open then look away and click again and then once more and it would finally open up lol
@drago8664 good debate. I'm sold
Anyone noticed workshop items that won’t sit on foundations they just float
You are the absolute best! I canceled my fallout 1st, made a Steam account, cancelled game pass and I have found a way to get everything I need free inside the game.
Preach. I've only been playing this game for 6 months and I've already run out of patience with the Atom shop - it's a confusing mess, misleading, and overpriced. Your honesty at calling out Bethesda's bullshittery is very much appreciated 👍
They got me with that Enclave pip boy skin/officer outfit deception back in the spring. I have never been more pissed.
I hate the misleading marketing of them the amount of times i did buy stuff thinking it was in the bundle and got disappointed
they take a picture of many items on purpose
34min on shop. This gonna be a rant for sure lmao
Great vid. Makes ya really wonder wtf they're doing over there. Incompetence for sure, or a money grab. Maybe both? Lol.
🤣 it was 40 mins and I cut it down as much as I could
@misterchurch666 lol. I think we all love your rants. You owe us 6mins more lol.
10:02 that Brotherhood chassis display frame that looks like a power armor station has an issue where it floats like 6 inches above the ground, even placed on a foundation. it's even visible in the screenshot they used in the atom shop. just a headsup for anyone that wants that one, I had to do a little foundation merge to get mine to sit on the ground and not look fucking haunted
Here is the thing... Mr. Church is ornery. He is livid. He is sarcastic. His mouth is foul. He also really knows what he is talking about and is _not_ wrong. Also, I'm in for the 4 more hours of bitching, it's kinda why I come here.
Well, mom sure likes him. 😎
@@mercurysunlight5689Wow, my Mum is going to be jealous if she sees this!
@@ArtisticallyArranged 🤣
I easily would watch a 4 hour video of Mr Church eviscerating Bethesda's idiocy. I'd even make popcorn for it.
I'm down for four more hours
You're the best Mister Church and I'm sure you just saved some poor unsuspecting people a whole lot of money in the leadup to the Holiday Season. They certainly won't be seeing any money from me. 💗
That enclave suit that you pointed out is indeed showing the enclave paint for the pipboy (I bought all of these items separately and assumed it was for the suit when I bought it)
SPOT ON, dude! Love your honesty. I never buy these bundles. They are never worth it.
I'll never understand why they cannot add all the items individually instead of forcing me to spend 1500 atoms for a bundle, when I only want 1 item from it
Bethesda want everyone to spend their atoms, so they buy more atoms etc. They want to scam us all
Because they can make more money that way
they bundle stuff we dont want together with only one thing good seems the norm
Yeah, I wish the bundle images were put in the same order that the items are listed and that there are images for all the items in the bundle.
How the fuck this isn't the case, gosh only knows.
Something seriously needs to be done about the atom shop it's actually wild
bundles dont make sence for one thing , only one thing makes sence 5 items make no sence?
Church I love your channel you are the only 76 content creator who gives zero fucks.
😂
That’s why I love him , he tells it as he sees it
I am so sick of the predatory shit Bethesda keeps on getting away with. Surely this is straight up illegal? Show us the item by itself. Simple. FFS!
Man... Loved your video. I really appreciate your honesty. Thanks, sir. And a tip, if you are with the Circuit Breaker equipped and use the throw knife, while you don't have any ammo for the pistol, the stun effect will always trigger when you hit an enemy
The thing is... Bethesda is hurting themselves. I am a willing and ready buyer but didn't jump on any of these bundles because they are packed with junk and are overpriced. Huge missed opportunity for them, and I am sitting here begging for them to get it right
Shame, that I am unable to like this video more than once. This needs to be shared and spread across the Fallout Community.
I have no comments about the content of this video, that would not break TH-cam guidelines.
Thank you for the video and pure honesty Mister Church.
Safe Comment.
BTW, the picture in the Hideaway Bundle that is just black. That is the glow in the dark item, please note though, the Fallout 76 team are aware and are working to fix the issue.
Oh it’s a glow in the dark item? They prob just need to put it in the sun for a minute
😂😂@@misterchurch666
This happens to be, one of the best examples of one of them there thingy-mabobs, which happen to Be known, As far as I am aware, as a criminally underrated TH-cam channel.
I think that scribble head is definitely predatory.. only reason I was thinking of getting this .. n the PA of course. Thank you for being that to attention!
Same here. I'm glad I he pointed that out.
THANK YOU for going off on these pathetic people who do the store. It's truly insulting to us who spend our hard earned money on this game that crashes every half hour.
Those tires and even the outfits in the pictures of them in the Brotherhood Bundle are Free States items 😂
@@Thanatos_Wolf_ I thought so 😂 and they’re not in the free states bundle I’m pretty sure
A prime example of Halon's Razor, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Indeed😂😂😂
Works the other way too, no?
With how they handle this game, I think it's the opposite.
It's not stupidity or incompetence, it's for sure intentional to milk as much money out of people as possible. Just like how there's no buy confirmation on the atom shop. A lot of people are probably burning their atoms through accidental purchases and not bothering to get refunds.
I was most disappointed to not see any thanksgiving related items. The corn husks, Thanksgiving tables, Thanksgiving corn husk wreath, fancy Thanksgiving display case.. Nothing. We quite literally got nothing for Thanksgiving ON the week of Thanksgiving. As someone who really upped their game on builds this year I was really looking forward to that stuff but.. Nope.
@@mogwai247 fortnite was more festive with a corncob skin tbh 🤣
These bundles were overpriced insults to the players. Pure cash grabs. Acting like this is a sale, much less a “Black Friday” super sale shows how little they respect the intelligence of the players. It reminds me of the sponsor in the Wayne’s World movie. That’s how little the guys who created these bundles thinks of us.
Excellent insights on so many items: the
reasons why you might or might not want them, how to use them or how to get them in other ways👍🏼 Really excellent coverage of items and also pointing out where Beth shows no scruples! W’s to V for her awesomeness!😻 Hope you had some calming camomile tea with your Pepperidge Farm cookies to soothe your seething angst afterwards! My fav is Brussels …with ice cold milk!🥛
@@Anduril_ thank you! I don’t like camomile bc it tastes like flowers, but it’s better than these deals
Thank you for the information. The Atomic Shop was so confusing today. Some pictures showed stuff that wasn't mentioned anywhere in the bundle. Such stupidity Bethesda. And no, I am not spending a single Atom on this stuff. I noticed that Slocum's Joe picture in that bundle but none of the items are in the bundle, what a joke.
Completely Agree with everything your saying😁🇬🇧👍🏻Such an Overpriced rip off! The pictures NEVER lining up with the items drives me mad aswel, Really wanted the Sap Tree but disappointed i've gotta buy a whole bundle just to get it, really don't understand why they haven't made a catalogue yet, i wait i DO we all know because 11.99 isn't enough! We gotta buy baundles we don't want😡
Def wait on the sap tree! I’ve seen it sold on its own before (that’s when I got it)
I went ahead and bought the bundle, but it had a lot of stuff I've been eyeing. But mostly for the sap tree.
Yeah, i agree fully with this review on this. Half the stuff isn't show cased, some stuff barely makes sense. Also crazy thing bethesda, i would buy these items separately, the raider bundle i want parts of the whole set for me is 1.8k because i like and own a lot the raider stuff but i'm not paying 1.8k atoms for 2-3 items i would buy separately. For the love of god bethesda bundles are meant to be "you can buy these separate or maybe drop extra money and also get these things." not these are all we're selling. The amount of money they are wasting because guess what, we're not paying 55 USD for a bundle when we want 2 things. We'd buy those two things, you're market hasn't gone up because you bundled things. All you've done is alienate you're smaller fish for you're complete loss of profit this quarter, you're whales already have these set pieces because they bought them already or request them from the website.
Legit Bethesda if you watch or read these things fire you're marketing team, fuck sakes. FOMO which seems to be their whole code and way, makes no sense when the missing out is only effecting you're main source of money. Housing.
This. Is. Bad. Marketing. how many branches does bethesda need to shut down before they realize this.
Wholeheartedly love your humor and honesty. Thanks a lot🎉
Yeah Bethesdas been shitting the bed for a minute now, next season looks pretty bad and I’m pretty excited about the few enclave themed items. Somebody showed how the scoreboards items are less valuable than implied or something the whole situation makes you wonder why, when they have a product that can sell itself. The cons outweigh the pros, EA found that out infamously with battlefront 2
Dude who does the Atom Shop: "Uhhh, I'm actually an unpaid intern."
Love the videos, Mr. Church.
😂😂
The people who Be-the-sad have making these for the Atomic Shop don't even bother to take pictures for these items. They simply search though existing photos and drop them in, regardless of whether they are the best of really appropriate for the item. It is basically the very least amount of effort that they could possibly do. And it would be awesome if they could have whoever runs the Atomic Shop have a background in PR & Marketing so that they can understand how to actually sell anything.
In response to this I dropped the following in the Bethesda Discord suggestion box
[Suggestion] Put the names of the items in the pictures for the items in the Atom Shop - particularly the bundles. Whoever is putting these bundles together is not putting preview images into the same order as the product listings at the bottom. Further, items are being displayed in bundles that are not actually in the bundles, and having the name of the item in the picture itself would make that easier for the staff to spot check for this mistake. And I do believe that this is an honest mistake born of being rushed. That said, continuing to make mistakes like this invites litigation from lawyers who's entire business model is filing class action lawsuits to harass large companies over issues like this. Put the names on the pictures both for us the customers but also to keep your own fat out of the fire as it were. Class action lawsuits are a cruel joke that only makes money for lawyers and does not benefit consumers in any way. I don't want to see one here but I see the risk of one.
Now, we see if what they do. I've screenshot the post so if the mods delete it I will report to Steam as such a deletion can be read as a policy to defraud the customer, and Valve has been cracking down hard on that as of late.
I agree and appreciate you submitting that. Unfortunately the ZeniMax Terms of Service (or EULA, I forget which it's called), that we all have to agree to in order to play, specifically blocks any class action lawsuits. We can't bring anything to court on Bethesda or ZeniMax, it all has to go through arbitration out of court. But even then the ToS explicitly makes us agree that we do not own any of the content that we "purchase" and that ZeniMax/Bethesda can change anything at any time with no notice. I read through it and it's crazy stuff that more and more companies are doing in no uncertain legal terms to protect them from any liability of their predatory, anti-consumer practices.
Chuckled at the woodland hideaway review for sure.. the attic is near height limit and its hard to build up there. Definitely too big!
Love your reviews, thanks for always helping me maximize atoms! Hoping we see improvements to the store structure/photos too
I hope so too! Feels like it’s getting pretty bad lately
@misterchurch666 Borderline predatory.. someone needed to bring awareness. Let's hope they hear us out
It's sad that we have to spend money to celebrate. Happy Thanksgiving Mr. Church. Thank you for sharing
I know it's not funny but this is the funniest thing I have seen all week
like the Power Armor Special Edition Canvas to Nylon Bag
This video actually made me angry for a minute. Usually I smh and just say, "Of course, that's Bethesda." This time there were so many instances in one Atom Shop update that it pissed me off.
Imbicility Billy is at it again. I never wish for people to lose their jobs, but seeing how many talented and hard working people have lost theirs in recent years, and realizing this stuff happens so often in 76... They must be super lucky, or their bosses don't know enough to care, or care enough to know. Like I said, Bethesda.
Great vid, Church! You made me laugh through my annoyance several times...annoyance about the bundles, not because the video is nearly 35 minutes long!
@@censorerik9601 thanks Erik! Anduril recommends camomile tea for the nerves
Righteous rant, I lol'd at the haunted house window boards. The shop has been a dumpster fire forever, but they took it to 11 for Black Friday.
And imbecility is a perfectly cromulent word.
Between this kind of awful monetization and how much they have been breaking the game I was ready to drop my first. I didn't even realize some of the things locked behind first. Atoms on the scoreboard requiring first is outrageous.
Respect for calling it how it was man!!!!!!!!! Hit the nail on the head
Hey, I went to special ed classes back in high school because I never did my homework. After watching this, I feel like I've got a sporting chance at working for Bethesda. Your videos make me laugh and cry. You make sad realities fucking hilarious!
And because some of the playerbase are sorry enough saps that don't know how to handle money or are gargantuan mega whales, this predatory marketing will continue.
People should be able to make whatever choices they want, but there NEEDS to be governmental restrictions and regulations to prevent companies from committing obvious malpractice. If monopolies are illegal, then how in the hell is this sort of scum allowed?
I purchased a BOS bundle at 50% off a few months ago and it came with the concrete tires, Slocum Joe coffee machine, broken radio, and I want to say the Scouting Tower so they just copied and pasted that bundle into the current sale one; sheer incompetence. The only thing I'm buying is the new camp slot and maybe a new loadout. Thanks for the video and take care.
I thought the concrete tires should have been rubber instead with the concrete holding them together. It's like they don't give any thought on how they would have built them in the first place....lazy!
I appreciate this rant, greatly.
Thank you for what you do, you're a valuable asset to us all in the 76 community
Those walls in the BOS (BS) pack is the "Cement Filled Tire Set" IIRC. And, yes, it is illegal to advertise something, but not give it. They get a loophole through also listing items. The problem, which COULD be used to prove the false advertising/marketing, is that none of the picture also have those listed items IN the picture, so it leaves people having to decipher the puzzle of 'which items are which pictures'. None of the listed items have descriptions, either. So, the list is basically worthless. Players use the images to figure out what they want, and BGS knows this. Well, either they KNOW it (and are guilty of predatory marketing), or they somehow still don't know (after multiple years of people pointing it out to them), and they should NOT be allowed to continue selling anything until they go through several months of proper training on marketing, ethics, etc.
These are always great. He's just saying what I thought when I was looking through the shop for 30 minutes.
Glad someone was serious about this. Like the next update is buffing melee players.
NOT ONE MELEE WEAPON SKIN.
MELEE IS ALL I DO!!!
Ngl I would’ve bought a “ROCK” if it was a power fist skin.
Whoever put this stuff out for “Black Friday” needs to be demoted.
Rock as a weapon skin would go so hard tho, that sounds funny as shit
@@stephenflanagan1177 a rock would be hilarious. The pet rock, even better 😂 I’ve always wanted an oven mitt boxing glove skin
Honestly, since I’ve put a pause on building in this game because of the ridiculously small budget and the complete MESS of the build menu, I’m grateful that this “Sale” is absurd and the list is unreadable.
I was even hoping that the Camp Slots would finally be 50% off again, but nope!
What they need to do is temporarily hire a team that can completely overhaul the Build Menu and Atomic Shop! I could see them being able to fix it by the start of Season 20, if not by the Mid-Season Update with the right people. But something REALLY needs to be done about BOTH!!
The thing that’s crazy to me is that they would make more money if they sold everything individually, and took good pictures of the stuff, and made it actually look desirable. Sometimes people might get stuff they wouldn’t otherwise bc of the bundle, but also sometimes people DONT get stuff they otherwise would bc of the same reason
@ that and the fact that a lot of these bundles have things I already own, but don’t recognize that and apply the adjustment like it supposed to, so I don’t buy the bundle
Amazing job once again. I love the honesty of your reviews. Your video review was the 1st thing I watched this morning. One item you didn't mention (how could you, there was too many other fuck ups) was in the Raider Bundle, the glow in the dark skull flares. They are not shown glowing, wasted selling point. Otherwise keep doing these please!
I bought 1 bundle, 900 atoms I think. The one with the signs and the junk car. Perfect for my scrappy camp. I will say this. I would've spent SO MUCH MORE money if this was a crazy big list of individual items. The nuka truck and wagon stand out. Some pip boy skins, just too much to type it all. They shoot themselves in the foot, but im sure they have metrics of who buys what and how so the fact they keep doing bundles mean people pay.
Yeah, I get why they push the bundles, but for fux sake, it's Black Friday. Loosen up a little Bethesda, give us some love!
Bro you have to make more of these😂😂😂
hundred times interesting than mr westek and DTDgamer atom shop reviews
Not spending a penny on these overpriced FOMO bundles. If I go to a store and there's no bread, I go to another store to buy something else...
Problem is, no one else is selling bread, as a matter of fact, no one else is selling anything
Or the store does have bread but if you want it you must also buy Milk, eggs, cheese, broccoli and mayonnaise. You don't want those things but you can't buy the bread separately.
I think I'm just fucking done, honestly. I have 1500 ATOMs to my name and MIGHT purchase the season pass to finish out the current season, then blow those ATOMs on whatever, then bounce. I'm just so sick of their unending enshitification year after year. Animal Crossing Pocket Camp came out at almost the same time and is ending service tomorrow, and I'm actuality going to miss *that* game while the bottomless greed and nonexistent bug fixes in this one are just infuriating.
At this point there just takin the piss, glad I broke away from this game. Well said brother.
I want those big vault boy and vault girl big heads so bad I would've bought that raider bundle. You do a BETTER job on atom shop than anyone else. I'll watch your recaps when I don't get a chance on Tuesdays to get on. Way better than people that just circle jerk Bethesda
I’m glad this cautionary tale has been beneficial! My videos are never out as quickly as others’, but I do try to be as thorough as possible
I think you can request those through the support tab currently, and just get those heads by themselves. Im not sure how many Atoms it would be by itself (I haven't finished the video yet/looked at the shop to see if they are listed solo. But I saw them on the drop down menu today in the request menu!)
The personal they got working for them doesn't give me confidence that this game is long for the world. I love how the next update will be all about raids...but we will only have one "raid" for the foreseeable future..
When I first started playing I saw the union something or another add on you could buy for 35 dollars. The description said Union Steel Worker power armer set. Something like that, I forget the exact name. Coming from fallout 4 I thought that meant a set of unique power armor. I didn't know it was just a paint set. I wrote them and said how this is misleading and that I feel like they were counting on newbies like me to be fooled. I told them that the wording makes it sound like something that it is not. Well, the next bundle they posted, the one on there now, says power armor paint. So at least for that one instance, they listened. The issues noted here are along the sameines though. It's false or misleading advertisement. They'll keep doing it until a class action gets filed.
This is underrated man. Ill be sharing this like crazy
When you opened with "Pedridge Farm Memory Cards" I knew this was going to a great video.
@@scottmiller7086 ironically I forgot about that
Thank you. As a somewhat newer player i dont know enough about the items to make sense of the photos and the list of items, it was all confusing and didn't seem to add up in places. Guess i was right about that. Terrible marketing, i will spend 0 if i cant figure out what your selling.
LMAO... your so right.. I so hope they see this video. It's really getting old to have all these pics in atom shop and them not be I n bundle. Also there is always stuff in bundles that I have they don't mark as I already own.
Really how hard could it be to take pics of item place them in order with description...
Your spot on.
And remember kids we JUST had to OK a new EULA that forbids law suits!
You should do a video on what items they are selling that are broken
@@manicassassin4542 v has suggested that to me too. I could start putting together a list. Might be a long video
@13:38 Fuck me man I was not ready for that you got me and that pause is golden because you know everyone is losing their shit laughing.
Isn´t there such a thing as false/missleading advertising? I guess we in Austria have such a law
Only bought the black Friday bundle because ive been waiting for the glow in the dark wallpaper. Of course it hasnt been available for a long time and now it is you have to buy a ton of other stuff with it
The circuit breaker last round effect works with thrown weapons, and will trigger every hit. Bashing also triggers on hit. I've been putting together a bash+throw build.
that's awesome! too bad we can't put bayonets or bruising stocks on 10 mm pistols xD
@@misterchurch666 it's still a good option for AOE stuns and tagging enemies in events.
Thank you so so much for ranting the same exact shit I thought when I looked in the atomic shop today (excitedly bc it's supposed to be the black Friday update.) Nothing but crap, and expensive AF. They make me want to quit playing.
Love your videos and humor that comes with. Keep it up🤙🏾
At this point being a fallout 76 player Is effectively like being in an abusive relationship ,their attempt to target new players is harming not only them but older players too .The new show was a blessing but a curse in some aspects .
I thought black Friday sales were supposed to be SALES 🤷♂️
Thank u Church
for protecting me from the Atomic Shop once more. 🙏
Thank you for this great video and your honest opinion its so refreshing to see you call Bethesda out on its atom shop items. I have subscribed just after waiting half of this video. Keep up the good content 👌 👍
Thanks for the heads up about the scribble mask ....
Don't buy camp slots if your already at the max they still take your atoms but no extra slot 🤬
ask for a refund! 😤
@@worfie definitely ask for a refund!
@@misterchurch666 would be nice if they stated the max ive been maxed for years they then sent me a special offer of an extra slot for peanuts when i didnt recive i asked for atoms back
My favorite part about the atom shop is if you get off the featured tab and go to say the camp tab and you make sure show owned items is on you'll notice that basically everything you have bought in the item shop has its own entry featuring a picture showing the exact item with a nice transparent background. My question has always been why the fuck do the bundles not use these pictures??????
Edit: i was curious i own the stupid jetpack he talks about at 8:30 and woah what do you know it has a picture showing exactly what it looks like in my owned items. Why does the bundle not show this???
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Circuit breaker is a scoreboard item. Your right about owned items. there's quite a of things I already own but show that I don't. Had to read carefully. Not spending this week. Thank you for clarifying 😊
The plain colour wallpapers are available via bethesda support currently if people want just those wallpapers
Let's all make a pact to be originalist builders and avoid Atomic Shop purchases in 2025.
some the camp items soo bad you can do good things too
Your comments are pure gold
The work experience kid is in charge of the atom shop and floor decor tab. Buying stuff direct from Bethesda is a head fuck but less insulting. Your the best Mr Church 😊
It would be great if Beth saw your videos and were like “oh shit we could do better”. But nah, why improve? I’m a newish player, may 2024, and I don’t have any of this stuff. And won’t. Their bundles are absolute bullshit. And I’m someone who can and has willingly dropped $50+ for in game items over my 20+ years of gaming. So it’s not that the cost is prohibitive. It’s that they really just shove 20 pounds of crap in a 5 pound bag and charge 50 bucks for it. I went from dropping about $50 a month on the shop each month to $0 in the past month or so. I may see one or two cool items, but can’t see buying anything anymore. Their focus is making money - I get it, they have owners and shareholders to pay - but find a way to sell me something valuable.
@@Oldmanmatt I genuinely believe they’d have more sales if they sold stuff individually. There’s a bunch of stuff in each bundle I wouldn’t mind having
@ yessir. I did buy the flower tho - on your rec. they should thank you!
The person responsible for it will not be fired, it's just bethesda quality.
@@AstraKitsune they’ll get a holiday bonus
Thanks Mister Church for the heads up
definitely listen to this video, talking to you Bethesda!
Bethesda at its finest as always, never change Bethesda, Todd and Fallout fans, you are my best comedy.
I wouldn't be surprised if the person who did that planned to shit in Bethesda's bed just before leaving on a long vacation. They use up all their vacation time, and while out transfer their 401K out of Bethesda's control 'cause they have no intention to ever return to work.
Thanksgiving coming up, lets put in St Patrick's Day themed items instead!
@@Buderbukz right! And donuts for Halloween!
@@misterchurch666 At least they weren't black olives on stromboli 🤣
The free states bundles are pissing me off, this is the third time I've seen one that heavily, HEAVILY promotes the bundle with pics of the revolutionary outfit while not actually having it in the actual bundle. I wish by some Christmas miracle we get some out of nowhere law that hits Bethesda in the face and forces them to show the pictures of items by themselves without other items included.
(they even put that damned revolutionary outfit in the BoS bundel, LMAO)
I didn’t even notice, is that outfit not even one of the thirty things listed? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@misterchurch666
It's the free states "survivalist" outfit, which looks fine but if you google it you get mostly the revolutionary outfit pics instead and, again, all the pics with the outfits (90%) are NOT the outfit that comes with.
It also doesn't show you the hat because the "free states" hat is literally a Garrahan mining hat that has no free state anything on it.
The only reason there's so much stuff in the list is because 70% of it is just that one sign in different colors.
Thank you for showing and explaining all that stuff.
I dont understand why they can't take good screenshots and put them in the correct fucking order. How difficult is it? Seriously? This fucking atom shop is the only thing that keeps the game alive and they ask a good bit for each of these things. Its almost down right disrespectful to not at least have one fucking dude who is supposed to go through these things before they put them up to make sure everything is nice and clearly marked.. like maybe the picture isn't all that clear.. how about you drop some text ON THE PICTURE at the bottom somewhere that says what its supposed to be showing you.
its insanity that this sort of shit isn't cleaned up.
Tell like it is .. facts some of these are put together like to bait and switch.. thank you for the breakdown..