Stephen A. and Max debate if Cavaliers vs. Raptors series is over after Game 2 | First Take | ESPN
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- First Take's Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman debate if the Cleveland Cavaliers vs. the Toronto Raptors NBA playoff series is over after the Cavaliers defeated the Raptors in Game 2.
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Max: "Since the raptors theoretically won game 1, if the raptors hypothetically win game 3 and potentially win game 4 it is possible that the raptors could metaphysically win the series, in theory"
D Ruf naw max ignored the fact the report said demar fouled Kevin before the elbow
😂😂😂😂This shits gold
HahahahaHahHaaa
W😂😂😂
D Ruf so true lmao
Max just trolling at this point, he can’t actually believe what he’s saying
BiblicalReaper He’s trying to hard to be Skip Bayless
Just for views...
well he gets paid to talk, so he can do whatever he wants
MrBlitzFtw and we'll all just keep listening.
Go look at the face he made at the last sec. Of the video seem like he don't no what to think
Series was over the day LeBron was born.
W
W
Trey Tenijieth 😂
Trey Tenijieth facts
Trey Tenijieth that's tuff
It's like watching the Avengers trying to take out Thanos.
SD81 A Terrible analysis lol
Hilarious
SD81 A: lebron destroyed drake like thanos destroyed vision’s skull
It’s more like a cripple fighting a tiger
Karl Tanner, the FOOKIN LEGEND savage.🔥
This series was over last season 😂
right
😂😂😂😂
It’s been over since 2014. Every year is the same shit with people overrating this garbage ass franchise. I bet you the Craptors will win both Cleveland home games and people will YET AGAIN think they will win the series. Fuck no no matter what happens they will always lose and that will never change, it’s what they’re destined to do
i fucking cant stand how people thought that the rockets-raptors finals would happen this year LMFAO.
"this is the raptors year" - raptors fans
"this is the rockets year with cp3" - rockets fans
NBA Players rockets still got it. I wanna see a warriors v rockets matchup so im rooting for HOU
''Toronto in 9'' -Max Kellerman
19*
Lmfao!
"Toronto in 6".... *6yrs*
Vincent Luciano im dead
They might steal a game in a 9 game series....maybe
I don't ever wanna hear next season that " yall sleeping on the raptors " ever again
explosive diarrhea excatly I hate raptors, 76ers, and Boston fans who think there all that
Ian Clark CELTICS WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE MOST RINGS 🍀
Probably wont have to.
Well it's cuz we decide to stay loyal to our city. Unlike you guys licking the nut juice off whoever the better team is. Lmaoo nize it bandwagoners.
Kinkade Koolaid speaking facts Toronto ppl just loyal to their teams
What a waste of a #1 seed
Rogue Sniper Gaming yep 👍🏾 I got to find my broom stick😂
Rogue Sniper Gaming told you , Celtics let them win.
Rogue Sniper Gaming facts
You all would be cheering if they were up two xD going into this series you all said Toronto was the better team xD
Rogue Sniper Gaming same thing with the Celtics last year 💀
Max Deluserman
lol
BlackCriticGuy exactly the pacers had the formula to have a chance to dethrone the Cavs but needed a better team to execute it but Raptors are FRAUDS!
He fail to meintion , probably on purpose, that Toronto is not doing a damn thing to stop the Cavs from scoring points.
Not just Lebron but Love and the rest are scoring 60+ on them. This is PATHETIC
BlackCriticGuy you are white...
BlackCriticGuy HAHAHA
I’m laughing at the Toronto’s picture! Drake is apart of the big 3? 😂
Greg Santana that was the most interesting part of this whole video!!
Greg Santana 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Greg Santana just noticed 😂😂😂
I think it's because of the "it's a rap" get it lool
Jeff Green apart of the Cavs? Which is funnier?
For Max to sit there and say that the Raptors will win is just ridiculous.
LeThanos 😭😭😭😭
YoSouZaBoy 😂😂🏀🏀
Max is like 'Even if Raptors go down 0-4 they will still win this series'
Nunca Desista 😂😂
In Max's words, "there's still a next time".
Too bad for baby Dinosaurs' fans though. Question is, if they lose this series (again?), will the Raptors' FO blow it up and start everything from scratch? Or is the question blown out of proportion?
Then will pretend he didn't say it after they get swept
After LeBron inevitably bounces these people from the playoffs AGAIN, I don't want to see no Raptors fans talking about Toronto being "disrespected" next year during the regular season. Respect comes with achievements and accomplishments. Two things the Raptors historically and recently don't have. And no getting a 1 seed don't count. Until Toronto proved themselves, they get no respect.
shade the champ they really a 2 seed anyways. If Boston wasn’t hurt they wouldn’t even be the 1 seed
shade the champ They not getting respect for the next 4 years as long as lebron is there. People were saying this allllllll yearrr
Hahaha
as a raptors fan i concur lol
I like how u speak for everybody
Lebronto Raptors 🦖💀
PERFECTION!!!
Lebronto Craptors
Lebron to Raptors CONFIRMED
That Dead Guy
Derozan: Lebron please I don't want to go
Ollld affff xD
The raptors soft non-physical defense is a huge breathing room for cavs compared to physical dogfight series vs pacers
But we are a better team than Pacers, our problem is to make the right match up, Casey made too much mistakes and does not read the game well which cost us both games. Concerning Pacers we challenged them very well in regular season and probably their game style fits more the Cavs weakness than us but I am pretty sure if they were our opponents in this semi we will be up two. The game is not over mark my words!
Your logic seem right,but when i watch raptors vs cavs games,i just see softness from raptors and how free the cavs fell and look on ofence, compared to pacers series where cavs where struggling big time
Raivons R1 I feel you, Pacers defensive scheme worked well except for execution down the stretch. Raptors might have been able to pull it off if they followed the same game plan.
Raivons R1 they play “soft” defence because they can’t even touch a soul or it’s a foul. Yes they need to play better defensively, but it’s not like their defence is soft, it’s more of defensive breakdowns. Watch and learn basketball first.
Intelligence Injection in game 1, the raptors had like 15 more free throws tho
Max I’m getting tired of ur bs
Bron’s plan
😂😂
Quit stealing comments fuck nigga
I hold back sometimes i dont! 😤😤😤
It wasn't just Lebron in game 2, Kevin Love balled out as well.
Get the Brooms outs
It's Over Max
he is indenial
Max say stupid shit from time to time. But that's just Max..
NOT , even if the Cavs win the first 4 games I believe the Raptors will still WIN.
Rubi kino
oh you one of them special kids aint you?
HUMOUR....Just making fun of Max K.
Jus letting y'all know max said Cavs need a new roster so they can beat the raptors lmao .
KaHLiL 2Classy same guy that said the warriors WILL NOT beat the pelicans without steph😴😴. Max talk just to talk but make noooo senss
Max sixers are down 0-2
ESB X Joshy same with Stephen a
They are going home while raps are going on the road
Theman sixers lost a huge lead to the Celtics game 2. They are in a bigger hole than the raptors...
they are now down 0 to 3
0-3 down xD Bron Sweeping TheProcess xD
LOL 2:47 "In the end it all comes down to this: " and opens the text in the screen: KING'S COURT
Max looking crazy out there 😂
KingOfTheNorth He Need Some Milk! :P
Raptors could still win but a Cavs sweep is more likely
Not unless this series will turn out like the Bulls - Celtics series last year. But I think it's a sweep if not a gentleman's sweep.
We saw this coming though. Not unless proven otherwise, LeBron and his team will reach ECF and even the Finals. Sorry for the Celtics fans, they have a small chance of winning against LeBron but not without Irving and Hayward.
If they did manage to win the series, Brad Stevens is a one heck of a legendary coach. However, before we talk about a possible Celtics - Cavs, 76ers is still in the game. Yes 2 - 0 but it's Celtics' home court, so they are expected to win in their home court.
If cavs sweep is more likely than the Raptors winning, then Raptors have like a 5% chance. Because even if the Cavs dont sweep, they still have a higher chance of winning
I Write A Song A Day raptors can still win what? The series? Ha, what a joke!
I Write A Song A Day right lmao 🤣 it's gonna be a gentleman sweep
I Write A Song A Day Bra shit is over . Raptors are not even built 4 the playoffs.
Poor Max, this series was over before it even began.
History repeat itself lol hey man i just start a sports channel where I ask fans like you difference sports topic I hope you can check me out and SUBSCRIBE just trying to grow with fans of the game like yourself thank you
Dre Way Sports sure I’ll check it out, Max is a funny cat man he is too idealistic then before he is wrong he wants to go the history route smh.
Alejandro Cabral thanks man i really appreciate it kinda hard when you first start out on TH-cam so thanks
Dre Way Sports no problem man, just commented on your finals vid and sub as well.
I'll check your channel out as well
Why is drake inbetween Kyle and demar? I don't remember him playing.
As a Raps fan...
It's over.
A Kapoor we knew this all year lol
The series was over before it even began. CAVS IN 4
Agreed
Cavs in 5 Toronto winning game 3or4
Cavs 2018 finals champions
Jigga Lugo not against warriors no
Jigga Lugo im a lebron fan but i dont think the cavs could beat the warriors. The warriors are a much better team. It would be different story if Cavs face Rockets instead. Lebron'll win.
What's crazy is the Cavs have not played at it's best yet.
ya they have, lmfao the raps havn't played their best
CycleCruza they have lol. This Cavs team isn’t that good. In fact they are overachieving. In game 1 JR had like 20 points. Game 2 Love had 31
umm, I think K Love getting 30 is playing their best.
hilsey Grewal Hood, Nance and Clarkson still haven't shown up yet dumbass. Still not their best
Massive Toronto fan, watched every game this year and been to several.
It's over.
Max took a L
as always
An*
He's been taking nothing but Ls recently.
Jareth Cruz L is not a vowel.
As a Raptors fan and Toronto resident, I want to hate Lebron for what he has done to my team for the past several years. Honestly, I cant. I'm amazed at what I am seeing. He's not better than Jordan, but is definitely this generation's equivalent and may one day become the GOAT.
CJ Chewjore naw. Hes def better than jordan. Your just in denial about it.
Haywood Jablomy still debatable tbh.
chaz sidnee I don't see a debate at all. LeBron is better. Reminds me of brady or Rodgers debate.
LeBron is better hands down rebounds, assist, etc Jordan just has more rings and better shoes..
Ballin Too nobody compares brady to Rodgers....jordan/lebron is the same as montana/brady
What about Kevin Love's very nice double double? That was the real difference in terms of amazing basketball. Love is his Robin most games, but can disappear occasionally, unlike Kyrie. Love is a different #2 than Irving and it took Lebron and him a little time to adjust without having Kyrie around.
They can play like this each evening, but they have to continue to find ways to give Love the ball on the block. You can go a little old school with he and James down under.
An efficient Hill, Green, and Smith sighting, regarding their shot selection and completion %, was also a welcome blanket. Love and Lebron can play a bit more loose when they have just a little help. This team can play like this each evening.
Max needs to hand in his resignation.
If you think bron will blow a 2-0 lead to the raptors!.. With 2 home games coming up!.. Your bugging. Lol Cleveland wins one of those home games. So it will be 3-0 or 3-1 and Bron not blowing that shit aint no way in hell lol
Loner Made just keep in mind the Cavs blew a 3-1 lead in the finals before
George N wtf 😂
noors Raptors in 7... You wanna make a bet?
George N that’s just abuse if anyone takes your bet. You’re a delusional raps fan 😂
George N Lol seems like a bandwagon. "Cavs blew a 3-1 lead". I'll come back when cavs win the series and told your ass I said so
Excuses excuses excuses Max
Lebron>>MJ>>>>Kobe
MJ all the way, he had the class too.
In the same 2 min report, before love’s “flagrant” they said derozan fouled him on the rebound, so that’s no excuse max🤷🏿♂️
"You're just willing to lie to the American Public"
LMAO Stephen A. funny af.
LeThanos with a 2-0 infinity stone lead, LeBronto officially the new name for the city of Toronto. LeAsteriod wiping out the raptors extinct in 4. And of course, we can never forget, the one and only LeBeautiful.
Kevin Durant's fake back up account. Naw The Avengers blew a 5-1 infinity stone lead what you talking about?
Kevin Durant's fake back up account. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kevin Durant's fake back up account. KD will own LeBron in the Finals
LeThanos now that funny as hell G😂😂😂😭😭👍👍
Kevin Durant's fake back up account. Lmao
Max needs to take the L and move on
Like always
Facts
I'm just floored that Cleveland scored 128 pts! This is a good Raptors team. 2nd best regular season record in the league this yr (2nd to the Rockets, better record than Golden St.)
It's the same Raptors team as past years because there best 2 players are the same and haven't gotten better, they haven't gotten a LBJ slower downer let alone a stopper, so what did people expect?
I can't wait to see Max on Monday.. sucks I gotta work. But I'll catch it here afterwards
LMAO, all that confidence and bravado from the Raptors and their fans are gone now. What happened to,
*"The Raptors missed 11 shots in the 4th and STILL only lost by 1 point. Plus, LeBron didn't play well and he's still burned out from the Pacers series. There's no way they'll beat us again"*
shade the champ Raps fans were talking shit all year. They are no where to be found now, its hilarious.
Who it was absolutely annoying, I’m happy they’re choking right now
they had the worst attitude of all fans this year the amount of smug ass comments i saw had me confused like did they win the chip last year
*Baby Dinosaurs
LMAO yeah reality is they dont do much vs Lebron...PERIOD
LeBron owns Toronto they might as well give him the keys to the city
5:52 The face you make when you're a raptors fan once the playoffs begin. Rinse and repeat.
Lebron not my guy i am team jordan and team kobe buttttttt what Lebron is doing is RIDICULOUS THIS MAN MAKES BASKETBALL LOOK EASY ITS NOT THIS MAN IS LEGENDARY SORRY BUT ITS THE DAM TRUTH
L he still is an amazing player.also nobody asked for lebron to be compared to kobe or jordan
Yeah you right they all great
Steve "76ers going to the NBA Finals" Smith being a victim of the moment again?
You're delusional!!
It's a sweep. Get the brooms out. Raptors doing what they do best. Showing the world that they're no more than a regular season team.
It’s not over yet
Like always
I mean, Celtics really shouldn’t be this good.
I’m more surprised by the 76ers choking 🤷🏻♀️
Greg Santana As a Butler fan over the years I quickly learned that Brad Stevens can come up with ways to beat anyone. I can't even imagine when Kyree and Hayward get healthy. Celtics in 5
Greg Santana You're surprised by a bunch of scrubs that have never made the playoffs?? Lol Philly really isn't that good and you're just realizing this?? 😂😂
I wouldn't call it choking. Boston and Brad Stevens is just too good at home. Remember Milwaukee took Boston to 7 games, mostly because they couldn't steal a game in Boston.
Philly's capable of holding home court, but they'll need to swipe game 5 or 7 to advance. That's a tall order.
Greg Santana the 76ers star player is gonna have too make 3s.
It’s a shooters league now.
The 2-minute report also said DeRozan fouled Love before the flagrant so that whole point is mute lol
I live in Toronto and I'm a fan of basketball for many years. LeBron has made me a fan of his especially after game two. You can't stop greatness. I have watched raptors since the franchise inception. There is a huge difference between superstar and all stars. Raptors have a good team on paper but, it's obvious mentally they are not able to produce in big game situations. Game two was painful to watch as a raps fan.
I never ever want to hear another comparison between LeBron James and 1-point Simmons ever again.
willemdee
Simmons is going to be real good in the future.
He’s just not there yet, lol
flash012234 No LeBron never had games like that especially in the playoffs!
@@flash012234 lol
@@jayjayrich23 LMAO this really aged horribly.
It's crazy because he had so much natural talent when he was young. Could facilitate as a 6'10 guard, elite defender, etc... Just couldn't shoot.
Who knew that would be his undoing.
@@flash012234 crazy I remember my dad saying he will be better than Tatum. Good ole days🤣
That is what max gets for just repeating analytics and not watching games...
Lmao. That last frame of video
Max, we love you and we thank you, and you are always welcomed to come to Canada.... but please.
Don't risk your day job.
Look at Max face at the end 🤣🤣
Max: SAS I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD :(
Dillapollo Productions LMFAOOO
Loooolll
Even as a Raps fan I gotta admit it's over. Don't expect to see a game 5 after this.
But Max face at the end though I'm Dead 💀💀💀💀
In the voice of Kenny “it’s over ladies and gentleman!”
Mad Max: the movie😂😂
Kevin Love stepped up big time played his best basketball of the season
@ESPN Can we get some more VOLUME on your videos?
Max is delusional, Molly is fine af
Max still has hope but I think he will admit when he is wrong.We will see.Can't win a series in 2 games.Momentum is overrated.
Jalen gonna whoop your ass boy
Lupe Zavala 😂😂
Max its over. You dont know basketball. Stick to boxing. Smh
Doevmusic ikr but if he stuck to boxing he would never have anything to say bc they don't really talk about anything but football and basketball on First Take
You realize he probably is being told he has to argue that point. These shows intentionally have one person represent each side of the argument just for the sake of argument
He is actually knowledgeable at baseball
Please everyone pause the video at the end look at there faces 😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭
Is the audio really quiet for earphone users or just me?
Did max forget about they said there was a foul on love before the elbow? So really love should’ve been taking 2 free throws
LeBron gonna turn the 0-2 into the 0-3
😭😭😭 💀
Bron's plan!
Hahaha
What does the regular season have to do with the playoffs?
Why is he talking about the flagrant when the last 2 minute report also said that Kevin Love was fouled before the flagrant?
Gsw vs cavs again for the fourth year in a row 👊👌🏀
KING K no GSW vs Lebron
KING K if they meet again, Cavs getting swept
KING K I pray that it’s HOU V CLE this year
James Cardozo, that's what y'all said in 2016 and we saw how that turned out, oh wait "finals were rigged, right" forgot that yall morons cant accept the fact that Bron is top 2 all time. NVM
MIYIAUQ its gonna be a very interesting WCF series
The Craptors are done.
I love how drake is included with the actual players in the picture
"It ain't over 'til it's over." - Yogi Berra
Raptors had the better regular season roster Cavs have the better playoff roster.
Raptors have a better golf team too.
925 Sports no..the raptors have a few good players. The Cavs have a great player
No Cavs have the greatest player that ever lived.James is superman.The nigga can play basketball.James has St.Mary's on his side no wonder he is a wonder.If you were catholic you would understand.
I mean thats really all that matters.
john b VC is the greatest dunker of all time
I'm a Lebron hater and even I want the Cavs to win in 4... Those Barneys are a disgrace.
AP's Videos look people it's skips Smurf account
Well, you just sound like a hateful person
The word of the day is soliloquy. One of the top 3 used words by SAS
Max must be on some real good shit
It was over before it even started. Only Toronto fanboys or Lebron haters thought the Raps were taking it
Mopey facts if u think toronto fucking wit the 🐐 stop doing them drugs you are being sold
MAX is in major denial , bro its over give it up
I thought Steve A was gonna say "...Their knees get weak, their arms get heavy"
How many people think these guys talk about what to debate before the show?
Stephen A: "Palms get sweaty"
Me: ".....Mom's spaghetti"
Davin Christensen really eminem reference? Lol
MrKeys haha yep
knees weak... arms are heavy
😂😂😂😂
damn he vomit on his sweater already
Wait, did max just say lebron had an unbelievable game in game 1?? Did he even watch the game? Lebron was terrible in game 1! Max be tripping
Goobersteen Gallop 13 or 14 assist with 1 turnover isn't horrible
He wasn't horrible by regular standards, he was bad by Lebron standards. It would be a great game for anyone else.
Dude had a triple double in game 1, you're "tripping". He shot 40% which obviously wasnt good, however, a few of those shots were 3's close to the end of regulation when he was tired as hell from carrying his teammates for 8 straight games and he was just trying to put them away to save game from going to OT...obviously it didn't work but dude still had a monster game. Pretty much like a standard Russell Westbrook game....shoot a lot, miss a lot, but still end up with killer stats.
He wasn't terrible. He was typical LeBron. This game he Thanos Lebron.
Cause he doesn't watch the game he just look at 'second spectrum'
Didn't he say after game 1 it took them all they had to win and they couldn't do it 3 more times. Then he just said it again in a different context after they did it better
Max face at the end of the video 😭😂😂😂 5:53
LeBron “the soul snatcher” James 😂
Chris Carter: 🗣 Toronto is a MUCH BETTER TEAM they WILL BEAT THE CAVS
atleast CC knows when its over
Hood Report TV Not convincing.
Hood Report TV Not in the playoffs. Only wins that matter are playoff wins 😊 if you're the much better team, then you must win, not talk but when the game. 💪💯
Nothing else matters no more if you can't win the playoff series. We watching.
Chris Carter was a football player, his thoughts on basketball and other sports are as valid as you or I, in this case less valid lmao
In the playoffs, it comes down to matchups. The Pacers very well could have been the one team in the East that had the personnel to beat the Cavaliers in a 7 game series. They had multiple athletic bigs that could shoot and defend. They had athletic wings that could stretch the floor and defend. Then they had the fastest pair of guards of any team in the playoffs in Collison and Oladipo, both of whom could shoot. Outside of the Warriors, nobody else has the volume of that kind of personnel that's needed to beat a team like the Cavaliers in a long series. The Raptors just don't have that kind of team. They are really good. The Cavaliers are just a nightmare matchup for them.
The game is a game of elements, and on any given night, any combination of elements can get you to win.. I don't think the Cavs look back and cherish upon the fact of the Raptors missing 11 straight or them themselves blowing up in the 3rd quarter in game 2.
Raps clearly need another superstar, cause this team always chokes in the playoffs, now its against probably the second worst cavs team lebron has been on. (Coming from a raptors fan)
It's over
Idk about these talk shows anymore. I’m realizing that most topics are debates which forces one side to say things they don’t actually believe
Max is great so positive lol, nice to hear as a raps fan
I wonder if Max picked the Raps just so they could have something to argue about, LOL. Cause it's over my dude.
max face at the end says it all
Steven Tung , best point made by anyone. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
5:11 When Mom Yells at you for not cleaning your dirty ass bedroom.
Even tho it’s all over I’m glad to see max isn’t just going back to the cavs even being down 2-0