Great, thanks, I have two Märklin engines that were totally stuck, now after applying generous amounts of 5-56 and getting the sideways play the first one runs, after 30 years or so! The second one is getting the treatment now. It’s simple and there is an added plus in the lovely smell of 5-56 😂 Again, thanks, I feared I would have to disassemble the little buggers
I had to look up 5-56 - I think it contains oil, If you are using this to de-grease then you will need to clean most of it off again as you do not want it on rails or anywhere near the motor - I just use a spray electrical cleaner (alcohol I guess) that evaporates off then I put in the tiniest amount of loco oil (Sewing machine oil) on the rotating axles and coupling rods. Oddly it is a testament to the high quality of the engineering - To reduce slop on the chassis, the tolerances are purposely tight but can be gummed with old oil or grease. Cheers Chris
@@digitalcareline yes, 5-56 or wd40 is not what the puritan would use! Still, I now managed to get the second engine working after removing the top and accessing the motor. The motor was also stuck, and here I semi-gently used a needle nose plier to grab the end of the shaft and turn it (after applying a drop or two of the fore mentioned universal spray). I’ve also put the engines through ten minutes or so of running around the track after the treatment, to get them conditioned after being idle for three decades or so. Maybe I’ll regret using 5-56, but then I’ll have to learn how disassemble h0 engines and clean them properly 😄
I wasn't sure if it was WD40 - If used carefully I am sure you will be fine - My fear is based on locos I have seen that customers have flooded in oil which then burns in the motor.
@@digitalcareline update: so after a few days one of the engines started to produce occasional screeching noises, consistent with the very short lifetime of the lubricant of 5-56 and similar universal sprays. I have now added drops of sewing machine oil to moving parts and joints and both engines currently run smoothly 👌
I'm trying to get my brother's fleischmann train running except I'm not having any luck. Its from 1965 & I've lubricated it but I can't seem to get the motor going using a 9 volt battery.
Hello Chris. I think my brother's train originally came out by Fleischmann in 1956. the cab number is 891315. My brother was born in 1965. I don't have a multimeter to check for shorts & my soldering iron is in storage, plus I think I'm using the wrong wires for testing. I live in Canada btw & the nearest dealer is in British Columbia. I ordered new track for the trainset except I didn't think to order motor brushes until now, if that could by a problem I'm having. I can turn the motor by hand after applying oil. Jeremy
The job is going to be harder without a multi-meter to test for shorts - all you can do is follow every wire and look for every possible failing. There are still specialist dealers in Canada and NA who will have the experience to strip down and clean this loco - the postage will not be too bad - unfortunately to get it to the UK the postage is extortionate plus HMRC will slap on an import duty charge that is held until we can prove definitively that the item has left the UK again -If you want to do it yourself then you will have to fully check the condition of the armature, copper plates and wire windings - Even with worn brushes there should be some sign of life when you apply 9v to the brush holders - If there is a sign of movement then things get better and you just have to clean it up then invest in a set of brushes and springs - Sadly at this age spare parts are going to be impossible to obtain so a new armature is probably out of the question - best of luck with your endeavour. Chris
Hi Chris. I had some help this afternoon with my brother's train from a guy I met recently. he was able to get the motor running when it was detached from the train chassis, but he wasn't able to get the motor or the loco working once the motor was reattached to the chassis. I'm wondering what would cause this problem? I thought you might have an idea of what a solution could be for this. I also posted a similar question on "modelrailforum" to see what the members on the forum will tell me what to do.
The motor is good news - all I can suggest is that you work methodically through the mechanism and wiring to eventually corner the fault or faults and fix them - Just persevere with it. Cheers Chris
Great, thanks, I have two Märklin engines that were totally stuck, now after applying generous amounts of 5-56 and getting the sideways play the first one runs, after 30 years or so! The second one is getting the treatment now. It’s simple and there is an added plus in the lovely smell of 5-56 😂
Again, thanks, I feared I would have to disassemble the little buggers
I had to look up 5-56 - I think it contains oil, If you are using this to de-grease then you will need to clean most of it off again as you do not want it on rails or anywhere near the motor - I just use a spray electrical cleaner (alcohol I guess) that evaporates off then I put in the tiniest amount of loco oil (Sewing machine oil) on the rotating axles and coupling rods.
Oddly it is a testament to the high quality of the engineering - To reduce slop on the chassis, the tolerances are purposely tight but can be gummed with old oil or grease.
Cheers
Chris
@@digitalcareline yes, 5-56 or wd40 is not what the puritan would use! Still, I now managed to get the second engine working after removing the top and accessing the motor. The motor was also stuck, and here I semi-gently used a needle nose plier to grab the end of the shaft and turn it (after applying a drop or two of the fore mentioned universal spray). I’ve also put the engines through ten minutes or so of running around the track after the treatment, to get them conditioned after being idle for three decades or so.
Maybe I’ll regret using 5-56, but then I’ll have to learn how disassemble h0 engines and clean them properly 😄
I wasn't sure if it was WD40 - If used carefully I am sure you will be fine - My fear is based on locos I have seen that customers have flooded in oil which then burns in the motor.
@@digitalcareline update: so after a few days one of the engines started to produce occasional screeching noises, consistent with the very short lifetime of the lubricant of 5-56 and similar universal sprays. I have now added drops of sewing machine oil to moving parts and joints and both engines currently run smoothly 👌
Excelente trabajo.
I'm trying to get my brother's fleischmann train running except I'm not having any luck. Its from 1965 & I've lubricated it but I can't seem to get the motor going using a 9 volt battery.
If you are able to get it to the shop then I can take a look. Cheers Chris
Hello Chris. I think my brother's train originally came out by Fleischmann in 1956. the cab number is 891315. My brother was born in 1965. I don't have a multimeter to check for shorts & my soldering iron is in storage, plus I think I'm using the wrong wires for testing. I live in Canada btw & the nearest dealer is in British Columbia. I ordered new track for the trainset except I didn't think to order motor brushes until now, if that could by a problem I'm having. I can turn the motor by hand after applying oil. Jeremy
The job is going to be harder without a multi-meter to test for shorts - all you can do is follow every wire and look for every possible failing. There are still specialist dealers in Canada and NA who will have the experience to strip down and clean this loco - the postage will not be too bad - unfortunately to get it to the UK the postage is extortionate plus HMRC will slap on an import duty charge that is held until we can prove definitively that the item has left the UK again -If you want to do it yourself then you will have to fully check the condition of the armature, copper plates and wire windings - Even with worn brushes there should be some sign of life when you apply 9v to the brush holders - If there is a sign of movement then things get better and you just have to clean it up then invest in a set of brushes and springs - Sadly at this age spare parts are going to be impossible to obtain so a new armature is probably out of the question - best of luck with your endeavour. Chris
Hi Chris. I had some help this afternoon with my brother's train from a guy I met recently. he was able to get the motor running when it was detached from the train chassis, but he wasn't able to get the motor or the loco working once the motor was reattached to the chassis. I'm wondering what would cause this problem? I thought you might have an idea of what a solution could be for this. I also posted a similar question on "modelrailforum" to see what the members on the forum will tell me what to do.
The motor is good news - all I can suggest is that you work methodically through the mechanism and wiring to eventually corner the fault or faults and fix them - Just persevere with it. Cheers Chris