Argentina’s Shocking Invasion - Falklands War Documentary

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  • @historigraph
    @historigraph  2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    For up to 60% off a subscription to Babbel, head over to bit.ly/historigraph_babbel
    This series has been about four months in the making, and is by far the most ambitious project I've set out to complete on Historigraph. It's going to be 8 (possibly 9) videos over the next three months, charting the course of the Falklands War as it happened 40 years ago.
    If you liked this video and want to help support the creation of the remaining seven videos, it would meant the world to me if you could consider supporting on Patreon www.patreon.com/historigraph, become a channel member, or even just share this video far and wide.

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who are the Argentines?
      The country is called Argentine, but the loconym is argentinian. And you know that word AND use it. Sometimes.

    • @MrLondonGo
      @MrLondonGo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow i thought I knew everything about this conflict then straight off this video blowa me away this Southern Thule thing I knew nothing about!! GREAT CONTENT!!
      EDITED: watched the whole thing now, and the revelations kept coming. Very Very insightful video. Subbed.

    • @dereklonewolf9011
      @dereklonewolf9011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Junta just needed a cheap victory to keep in power. They never asked the Falklands people ever what they wanted. To the victor go's the spoils. 73+ 🍁 hunter expat 🇬🇧 who dares wins 👍

    • @Oscuros
      @Oscuros 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did it take you 4 months to miss out how the Malvinas were already colonised in 1833 and that when they went back with gunboats they kicked the colonists off? Or about the increased arms sales to the Junta before the invasions, because this story is just like the one with Iraq about arming right wing dictators, not objecting when they gas and kill their own people, then acting like we're "saving them" when we take out the dictators we put there and sold weapons to in the first place?
      How does it take 4 months to put together exactly the same empty jingoistic propaganda lies as in the other videos in English about this? It takes you about the same time to read about the islands already being occupied and conveniently miss that out again, or about the arms sales exposed on the BBC, hence them being kicked out, because it was on the national news, only you're too young to remember, hence you can also miss that bit out, but you can't to us that saw it.
      I suggest you get an actual degree and learn about actual historiography instead of these weak as baby urine fairy stories you want to foist on us instead of actual history. I suggest that'd be a better way to spend 4 months, instead of lying to yourself and others about recent events in living memory.

    • @DonDon-df5ie
      @DonDon-df5ie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ugly_German_Truths Argentines is a word used to describe Argentinian

  • @TheOperationsRoom
    @TheOperationsRoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1656

    Not seen the initial invasion portrayed like this before. Well done Josh!

    • @Livelaughandlaughmore
      @Livelaughandlaughmore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      His name is josh what

    • @st0rm617
      @st0rm617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      My absolute favorite "tactical and strategic overview" doc maker, commenting on another favorites vid. Wicked!

    • @Livelaughandlaughmore
      @Livelaughandlaughmore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@st0rm617 wicked 👍

    • @ag7898
      @ag7898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You guys do a great job yourselves! But I also agree... usually the Falkland War is one of those ones that get brushed past and brushed over.

    • @seanmcmullen4274
      @seanmcmullen4274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hey. Nice to see you supporting a fellow channel. I am also a big fan of your stuff too! I really enjoyed your video of the vulcan bombing run on the falklands you did a few years ago.

  • @AEARArg
    @AEARArg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    As an argentine I can tell you that this documentary is top notch in objectivity and historical insights. Congratulations and total respect!

    • @oligultonn
      @oligultonn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I have seen so many Argentine comments online being the opposite of yours and that made your comment genuinly warm my heart.

    • @SuperMYSHKIN
      @SuperMYSHKIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I really hope the expression "top notch" is in common usage in Argentina.
      Regards.

    • @johnfrancis2215
      @johnfrancis2215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As a Brit I must admit I was very impressed with the skill and determination of the Argentine air force during the conflict, the Skyhawk fighters though out of date were used to amazing effect, a very able and coragious adversary

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@johnfrancis2215 being close to the mainland helped us with the refueling and refiting, but nontheless sea and land you were better prepared, wish this entire deal never happend. Through diplomacy is the only way i would have respected any victory

    • @seltonk5136
      @seltonk5136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Britain gave us Dudley Moore who starred in best movie Arthur 2 On The Rocks

  • @Drummer2020
    @Drummer2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    I went as a medic aboard the Canberra and wrote a best selling book about it called 'The Band That Went To War'. I also came back from the war with an unusual souvenir, a signed 'thank you card' from the enemy!

    • @neoyankee
      @neoyankee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      A "thank you" card? Unexpected.

    • @Drummer2020
      @Drummer2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@neoyankee yes, and last year some of the signatories have been in contact

    • @tonyyates2012
      @tonyyates2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@neoyankee I'd imagine as a medic he helped treat some Argentinian wounded, hence the thanks.

    • @johnmclachlan8425
      @johnmclachlan8425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And it is an excellent and interesting book: thanks, Brian!

    • @Drummer2020
      @Drummer2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@johnmclachlan8425 Why thank you John, I am pleased to hear that!

  • @anantr99
    @anantr99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    Looking forward to this video and the series in general. If previous content is anything to go by, this'll be a fantastic journey!

    • @billhanna2148
      @billhanna2148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fasten your seatbelts this will be a most satisfying retelling of a short sharp succinct war by a wizard of TH-cam 💪👍👏👏👏

  • @WorldWide_Dom
    @WorldWide_Dom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +751

    I hope you cover the Chilean role in the war also, often forgot about due to the secrecy at the time. The assistance that they provided to the British in terms of Intelligence, access to the Andes for siting radars & military posturing (keeping a lot of argentina's best troops in the andes regions) was invaluable. I like that you cover the lesser known parts of conflicts and this i feel is a very forgotten part of the falklands war.

    • @oligultonn
      @oligultonn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      It was amazing the cooperation between Chile and the UK.

    • @rdeEKINS
      @rdeEKINS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Lindy Beige did an excellent video on the Chilean involvement.

    • @tomriley5790
      @tomriley5790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      It wasn't entirely altrusitic, Argentina (or at least the military government) had nearly invaded Chille in (operation Soberania 1978 - after nearly invading the Falklands in 1977 - being disuaded by the deployment of an SSN and Argentina being informed of it - hence the fate of the Belgrano shouldn't have been too much of a surprise). Should there have been a quick victory (as expected) in the Falklands the wave of nationalism in Argentina would probably have been used to launch an invasion of Southern Chille and Pinochet knew this.

    • @WorldWide_Dom
      @WorldWide_Dom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@tomriley5790 Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't Argentina to this day lay claim to quite a few of the chilean islands around tierra del fuego?

    • @murderouskitten2577
      @murderouskitten2577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i did not know any of this tbh.
      and i like to think of myself as well informed.
      Thank you for sharing the information.
      now i have something to sink my time into.

  • @My_dad_owns_Club_Penguin
    @My_dad_owns_Club_Penguin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I came into this expecting a 21 minute summation of the Falklands conflict from which I would learn little new, as I have already seen many videos and read many articles about it. I was pleasantly surprised to see SO MUCH DETAIL about the initial invasion. Including the audio from the house of commons was fantastic as well. You and Operations Room are hands down the best military history channels on youtube

    • @si2foo
      @si2foo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the audio from the house of commons is still available to anyone who wishes to request it.

  • @TrailsTrailsTrails
    @TrailsTrailsTrails 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Finally an explanation why Argentina didn't just wait a bit longer for the UK carriers to be retired. Most documentaries skip this entirely.

  • @karllung2649
    @karllung2649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I went to the Falklands for a one week vacation in 2001. The trip was mainly for wildlife photography and there are only bits and pieces about the war. It is really great to see such a detailed coverage of the war from you!

    • @cyrus2728
      @cyrus2728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ive been a few times,its a bit of a shithole tbh but i did get a suntan one time.

    • @glenbe4026
      @glenbe4026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try New Zealand, there is more "wildlife/sheep" to photograph ;p

    • @karllung2649
      @karllung2649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@glenbe4026 Been to NZ a few times, include the Royal Albatross Center near Dunedin. I have to say, compare to the Falklands, NZ is like NY City 😅

    • @glenbe4026
      @glenbe4026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karllung2649 Probably so :) But was just joking about the fact the famous wildlife for both are sheep & penguins.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Next episode will be called, “Episode II: The Empire Strikes Back”

    • @aleksaradojicic8114
      @aleksaradojicic8114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hopefully it will be as good as "Episode I: New Hope".

    • @Harv72b
      @Harv72b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't you mean "Episode V"? 😁

    • @malcolmrose3361
      @malcolmrose3361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which I recall was a headline for Newsweek when the TF set sail a couple of weeks later...

  • @iKyleTz
    @iKyleTz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Absolutely smashed it mate, hadn’t realised 20 minutes had passed as I was so engrossed. Bring on episode 2 ! 😁

  • @joeb7640
    @joeb7640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +557

    It's ironic how Argentina claimed Britain's claim of the island was 'an example of colonialism' even though the British were literally the first humans to set foot on the island, and the Argentinian population themselves are the descendants of colonists.

    • @javifulanito8671
      @javifulanito8671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Actually they weren't

    • @lesmahon4670
      @lesmahon4670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@javifulanito8671 Explain

    • @lucasrossi8358
      @lucasrossi8358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@javifulanito8671 uuh if I don't remember wrong, there were natives, right?

    • @javifulanito8671
      @javifulanito8671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@lucasrossi8358 Vernet gauchos were the first ones to exploit the island resources and live there. So they weren't pre-hispanic natives, but still natives from Rio de La plata.

    • @javifulanito8671
      @javifulanito8671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@lesmahon4670 Vernet gauchos were the first ones to exploit the island resources and live there. So they weren't pre-hispanic natives, but still natives from Rio de La plata.

  • @racing7782
    @racing7782 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The fact that this comment section didnt end in a typical childlish flame war speaks very well on the job done here. I had the honor to speak to several argentine veterans from the airforce and navy. Spent time in gatherings with them when i was a teenager. Awesome people. Proud people. I also met Bonzo (ARA Belgrano captain) in person and talked for a few minutes. We should respect all veterans from any side. I have no ill feelings with english people (actually worked alongside plenty of time and went several times there for tourism. ie: the Tank Museum at Bovington). Hopefully the series keeps this neutrality in the comment section. Greetings from Argentina.

  • @WarrenPeace007
    @WarrenPeace007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    About 15 years ago I worked with a guy who fought in this conflict as a Marine. Even though it was some 25 years later, he still showed signs of PTSD. It really brought home to me how horrific war is

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your comment really brings it home to me that it should never huv happened , there must be at least 323 other reasons why n all 👮🏻‍♂️

  • @Blueboy0316
    @Blueboy0316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Never understood the belgrano controversy...nations are at war, the nations send ships to do battle, argy ship gets sunk during combat (no matter which way it was sailing), aggressor national cries foul because they got their asses handed to them. Losing a ship in a war they started.

    • @lovablesnowman
      @lovablesnowman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even the captain of the Belgrano admitted it was a legitimate act ffs. Argentines and self loathing brits are something else

    • @maxkennedy8075
      @maxkennedy8075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      2 institutions that never pursued the controversy were the Argentine and Royal Navies.
      The captain of the Belgrano was interviewed and said it wasn’t illegal
      The exclusion zone was to keep civilian ships out of the line of fire not to be the zone where all fighting had to take place in

    • @hisdadjames4876
      @hisdadjames4876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not to complain, but just to try to explain.....war had not officially been declared by either side, Belgrano was just outside the exclusion zone (generally interpreted as being the only blockaded area) and was apparently steaming further away (so not immediately threatening), diplomacy was continuing and there had been no publicised casualties so far (If memory serves), the sinking caused large scale loss of life. For these reasons, I think the event was an unexpected escalation of the conflict and provoked controversy.

    • @Ronald98
      @Ronald98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hisdadjames4876 I think that this is the best explanation by far!

    • @Gszarco94
      @Gszarco94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      As an Argentine, i completely agree with you. It was war and our ship got sunk in Battle, we weren't on a trip on the Caribbean.

  • @tincho9651
    @tincho9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +536

    As an Argentine myself I appreciate your objectivy in the telling of the story. However I must say it´s rather hard for me to distinguish false from real information, given that, well, I was born and raised in Argentina, so I have been victim of propaganda and nationalism. I read a lot about the conflict and I have found a lot of inconsistency regarding a bunch of information (in all my reading). Here in Argentina it is still a very controversial conflict and a "touchy" subject to many. Thanks for the video, looking forward for the next in the series. Keep up the good work!

    • @tincho9651
      @tincho9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      An example of conflicting information would be that we were told that there were no shots fired during the initial invasion. They said, since the invasion force was so big in comparison to the British force that the British pretty much surrendered with no exchange of fire.

    • @historigraph
      @historigraph  2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      There's a huge amount of conflicting information regarding the initial invasion. Argentine sources play down the extent of any violence/fighting because it was convenient to the Junta to present a bloodless seizure. I might try to do a livestream at some point to drill down into it

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@historigraph Well, the Argentinians actually fired stunt grenades, also fire to the air and avoided close contact, because if there was a chance to avoid war, certainly wouldn't had been with a British killed

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yep, however the main problem with the Argentinian perspective is how easy is overlooked their numerical superiority, and the main battles, as well as a whole scapegoating of the HMS Conqueror being a criminal unit, instead of admiting the logic of war

    • @tincho9651
      @tincho9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@omarbradley6807 Well Hector Bonzo, the admiral of the Heavy Cruiser "ARA Belgrano" said the sinking was "legal" since it was a war after all and it was a threat to the British Navy, it still is a controversial subject though.
      Regarding numerical superiority, you are right, however we have to take into account the fact that the Argentine army troops stationed on the islands were conscripts from a semi-tropical climate, with very poor training and moral. The Argentine Junta was afraid Chile would intervene in the war, so the higher tier forces were stationed on the Argentine-Chilean border.
      That being said, the whole operation was executed poorly. Lots of bad decision making from the higher ups

  • @PitterPatter20
    @PitterPatter20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Can't wait for this series! Learning about the initial invasion in detail is really interesting, and unique. I love your style and will love to see how you handle it.

  • @Harrier1982
    @Harrier1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    At long last it has finally come. Thank you

  • @Snarkbar
    @Snarkbar ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Carlos Busser's initial message shows just how honorable the men on both sides really were. The Argentine gentlemen, in particular, really deserve better in the English-language press. Each and every drop of blood spilled in this conflict was a real tragedy.

    • @littleshep5502
      @littleshep5502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know about you, but throwing white phosphorus into barracks while shooting through the walls (to try and kill the marines in their sleep), or later actions, of which several broke the Geneva convention, don't sound very honorable

    • @TomFynn
      @TomFynn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@littleshep5502 I second that. Also, in the book "Across an Angry Sea" Cedric Delves, then CO D Sqdr. 22 SAS, stated that they captured an Argentine officer. Who behaved like a spoiled child. Only when they found in his possession a powerful hunting rifle with very much non-Geneva approved hunting ammunition did the Argentine "gentleman" twig on to the fact from the suddenly very hostile stares that he was a very long way from home and without any friends whatsoever.

    • @andrewdoran4572
      @andrewdoran4572 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      All this as a result of politicians failing to do their job on both sides.
      Same old story, old men sending young men to clean up their mess.

  • @seanmcmullen4274
    @seanmcmullen4274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i so happy to see that there is going to be an in depth series on the falklands war.

  • @DonVigaDeFierro
    @DonVigaDeFierro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an incredible video. Feels like you condensed 2 hours worth of information in 20 minutes, and not just facts everybody knew. Excellent work.

  • @tiagoback
    @tiagoback 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I must say, I watched plently of Falklands War content before, but this is stellar job. Congratulations, cant wait for the next one!

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically, basically, basically, do u think that when boozing in ah fine English boozer establishment supping ah fine English bitter or ale , many more tasting notes than wine incidentally, that seats are for ladies , never sit dahn in ah pub , stand at the bar , stand at the bar wiv the lads , with the men , unless you’re an old fellow fought in the war perhaps 👨🏻‍✈️

  • @jpevans01
    @jpevans01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve read and watched quite a bit about the Falkland’s over the years and never had the run up explained so clearly.
    👏 great job

  • @The3Lego3Freak
    @The3Lego3Freak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I've watched a lot of Falklands videos but I still learn something new from yours. Great work man!

  • @Gszarco94
    @Gszarco94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent documentary. Hope to see the next episode soon, greetings from Argentina!

  • @hansvonmannschaft9062
    @hansvonmannschaft9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Learnt and studied about this subject for a long while, and I just learnt a bunch more, and as icing on the cake, the details and audio/visual content about the British House of Commons was just amazing. Never seen those videos or heard those audios before. The British Parliament is indeed a Nation of its own!

    • @jonny-b4954
      @jonny-b4954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Battle of the Falkland Islands by Max Hastings & Simon Jenkins is a good read on the subject.

    • @hansvonmannschaft9062
      @hansvonmannschaft9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonny-b4954 Note taken sir, thank you!

    • @oscarbosio9881
      @oscarbosio9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Si pero omiten pasar el discurso de la ex Primera Ministra cuando dijo que su Gobierno nunca negociaría con Dictadores, que solo lo hacían con Gobiernos Democráticos . Sin embargo su principal aliado en Sudamérica fue el General Pinochet de Chile, uno de los mas brutales Dictadores de esta parte del Continente. Una hipocresía total. Pero bueno, la historia siempre la cuenta el que gana.

    • @hansvonmannschaft9062
      @hansvonmannschaft9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oscarbosio9881 Estimado Oscar, creo que no hace falta el discurso de la PM Thatcher para que sea sabido (a nivel mundial) la categoría y cantidad de hipocresía de la persona en cuestión.
      Más aún! Al terminar la guerra, la mujer afianzó su poder y empezó a atacar a homosexuales (por simple odio), y a trabajadores en Inglaterra, (por sus protestas debido a la situación económica), y también se salió con la suya.
      Abrazo grande.

    • @oscarbosio9881
      @oscarbosio9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hansvonmannschaft9062 Abrazo grande. Solo lo quería aclarar, porque viendo el video y las respuestas de la mayoría ( algo lógico sl ser británicos) parece que opinan sobre la Madre Teresa.

  • @archie2943
    @archie2943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Incredible video that was clearly thoroughly researched and engaged with a balanced historiography, content that deserves millions of views! Cannot wait for the next video!

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stand at the bar wiv the laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhds , with the men , right you are , right you are 👨🏻‍✈️

  • @Kerbiecommando
    @Kerbiecommando 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video on a very interesting conflict that does not get as much coverage as it should. Looking forward to the rest of the series!

  • @bradleyclutton4564
    @bradleyclutton4564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very well done, happy you covered the first fight that always gets brushed aside. Looking forward to the next part 👍

  • @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC
    @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate all channels that add subtitles. Really helps the viewing

  • @jamesscalzo3033
    @jamesscalzo3033 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the video @Historiograph! Can't wait for the next video man! I remember reading up on the Falklands War when I was Looking up some of the Argentine Warships still in Service, and I can say a few things about this Conflict.
    1). The AAVP-7A1's that we Gave the Argentine Armed Forces were the Very Amtracks you mentioned here, and this was the Design's "Baptism of Fire" or more specifically it's Combat Debut.
    2). The Former Duke of York, Prince Andrew, was one of the Harrier GR.3 Pilots Aboard HMS Invincible during this Conflict, and remembers Vividly seeing the Explosions from when the Atlantic Conveyor was Hit by an AM 39 Exocet Missile. While I was Looking up the Squadrons that had been aboard the Illustrious-class Aircraft Carrier of World War Two HMS Illustrious, I noticed that the Newly Ascended King Charles III was in 1830 FAA at this Time.
    3). The Falklands War was the First War in British History where Journalists were Speaking like Journalists. Gone were the days of Saying "Our Lads are Giving the Argies What-for" like in World War Two and In came the days of them saying "The Troops are Moving into Positions just Captured From the Argentine Forces" of the Modern Day.
    I still remember my Parents saying that when they First heard about what went on with the Sinking's of HMS Coventry, HMS Sheffield and Atlantic Conveyor their first Thoughts were "Oh my God, this is an actual war right now." Bear in mind that my Parents were in college at the Time, on top of the Fact that this was almost 10 years after Saigon, so for News of our Allies across the Atlantic now Caught up in an Actual Shooting War was just Unfathomable for most People, especially when you Consider that not only was most of the Argentine Military Equipment Dating back to the 1920's/1930's (Like the ARA General Belgrano/Ex-USS Phoenix of the American Brooklyn-class Light Cruisers) but also the Amount of Casualties on the Ships that were lost and the Battles that were fought.

    • @waynesimpson2074
      @waynesimpson2074 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to appear pedantic but I think you may have confused Prince Andrew's role in the conflict? As I recall he was a Sea King (rotary wing) pilot not a Harrier pilot.

  • @Lord_Lambert
    @Lord_Lambert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Not sure I agree with calling it a "reconquest" at 00:35, considering they never owned the islands at any point in history ever.

    • @CountScarlioni
      @CountScarlioni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes this irked me too. In reality the Argentinians never had authority over the island.
      However, I think we're supposed to be hearing that particular thought from the Argentine perspective.

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did for a few years after the independence of Argentina, until the British came back to assert their claims.

    • @pedroarganaraz8037
      @pedroarganaraz8037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1820-1833

    • @Lord_Lambert
      @Lord_Lambert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pedroarganaraz8037 I said owned, not illegally occupied.

    • @littleshep5502
      @littleshep5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pedroarganaraz8037 1829-1833 with protests

  • @SeaGamer4life
    @SeaGamer4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Carlos Busser: "If there are any excesses I will impose the maximum penalty."
    Argentinian Commandos when they see an empty barracks: *”So anyway I started blasting”*

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Excesses, mean crimes of war, not blasting the barracks, however that was mainly because they fear some British waiting in ambush.

    • @SeaGamer4life
      @SeaGamer4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@omarbradley6807 I’m aware of that, I was only making a joke.

  • @Khobotov
    @Khobotov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    UK Politicians: "I promised to cut spending! Scrap the Endurance!"
    Argentina: "Does something"
    UK Politicians: "Quick! Send the Endurance!"
    Stuff like this happens too often.

    • @davidbrown2571
      @davidbrown2571 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Politicians are worse than useless.

    • @marjorythomson9310
      @marjorythomson9310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Endurance was already there when the invasion happened. It was supposed to be Endurance's last deployment but after the invasion the Government decided against scrapping her.

  • @SageThyme23
    @SageThyme23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really appreciate how you explain details that most other places fail to mention

  • @nevilleneville6518
    @nevilleneville6518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic opening episode, really looking forward to the rest of the series.

  • @Mark-wx8ne
    @Mark-wx8ne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dont think this video is doing as well as it should because there's already tonnes of content about the Falkland war already, which put me off for a bit. After finally watching it I can say its definitely the best account of the war I've seen. Everyone reading this must like the video for the youtube algorithm.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fantastic episode! I've seen many programs about this war but nearly all of them begin with the governor's house being taken, ignoring the greater context and the circumstances leading up to the conflict. I was twelve or thirteen at the time and it seemed like a grand and exciting adventure, but of course it could have spun seriously out of control.

  • @2Links
    @2Links 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never seen the political details and background portrayed so well. Many focus just on the fighting, while ignoring the previous developments. I had no idea about that first seizure nor the details of South Georgia. The Argentina decision makes so much more sense to the viewer in this context. I also enjoyed the audio clips of Thatcher and the sounds of laughter and general outrage. Very impressive.

  • @joost00555
    @joost00555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just watched 3 of your videos on the Falklands War and I really like your style, both animation, narration, and writing. It reminds me of the Operating Room, which I definitely mean as a compliment.

  • @MisaelKpo
    @MisaelKpo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    As an Argentinean, I really appreciate the sense of objectivity you reflected by not preaching how we are wrong, even if you ultimately disagree with our claim. Is incredible how many sources blast you with propaganda for either side. Many people seem to not grasp how these events scarred our nation. Here, you can't go far without stumbling upon a reference, from our bills, street names, monuments, etc. I will keep in tuned for the rest of the series and hope it is as good as this video!

    • @aussiemilitant4486
      @aussiemilitant4486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was Galtieri that scarred your Nation, the events are simply the by-product of his calamitous and delusional decision making.

    • @oscarbosio9881
      @oscarbosio9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perdoname, que tiene de malo las referencias en calles, monumentos, memoralies, parques, etc relacionados con Malvinas ? En esa guerra han muerto varios compatriotas tuyos y míos, en mi caso particular varios ex compañeros ya que ese año estaba haciendo el servicio militar. Esto pasa en todos lados, en EEUU con relación a Vietnam y Corea y eso que no eran guerras propias, y en la misma Gran Bretaña donde hay lugares, bustos, calles que llevan el nombre de corsarios que se dedicaban a la explotación de esclavos .

    • @starrynight1657
      @starrynight1657 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarbosio9881 Your government was fascist and war mongering. They planned to invade Chile as well. They oppressed Argentinians.

    • @nicholasjeremyson
      @nicholasjeremyson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@oscarbosio9881 Ok juan.

    • @zacharymcgivern551
      @zacharymcgivern551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Was never part of Argentina in the first place

  • @strykerjones8842
    @strykerjones8842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Royal Navy has incredible names for their ships.

    • @j_james_01
      @j_james_01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No one does it like the British 🇬🇧

  • @izzi280
    @izzi280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I really dont know any history of wars so watching such well explained and animated documentaries is a life saver for this sort of thing.
    Appreciate you discussing the nuances and stating the unknowns or contradictions too.

    • @mightyconker3903
      @mightyconker3903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The history is always written by (((the victor.)))

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 ปีที่แล้ว

      Contradictions, like thatcher being ah war criminal, staaaaaaaahhhhhhhnnnnnnd...........wait ah minute..........dowot ..........you wot..... do......wot👨🏻‍✈️

  • @jamesdreads7828
    @jamesdreads7828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you're title music is epic. great vid as ever, cant wait for the rest of the series.

  • @stevenda22
    @stevenda22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant Video Josh, looking forward to this series, which I know will continue to be fantastic. Keep up the good work!

  • @joeclay9683
    @joeclay9683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    having been there myself, it's nice to see this series

  • @DarkVeghetta
    @DarkVeghetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Drachinifel sent me (and probably quite a few others) in this general direction and I can certainly see why. You've got yourself a new subscriber and I'm eager to watch the rest of this series, once I am able to do so.

  • @ThePilot4ever
    @ThePilot4ever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant video!

  • @YachtReport
    @YachtReport ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting. Some gaps in the pre-fighting part. There were Argentines officials working on the island before the war.
    I’d recommend a good book (if you can still buy it). Called 72 days. Written by one of the islanders who lived during the event. I bought it there when I did a tour of duty in the Falklands.

  • @TheDemolitionMonk
    @TheDemolitionMonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a great video! Looking forward to hearing what happens next!

  • @minerran
    @minerran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've never quite understood why these islands were so important to both the U.K. and Argentina. I was always sad about the sinking of the General Belgrano, never like to see sailors killed. Great documentary, thanks!

    • @buzzinadventures4217
      @buzzinadventures4217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deep sea oil reserves - wasn't about a few inbred sheep shaggers and several million penguins.........that's for sure. Also politically expedient for a government that was facing losing an election in the UK,....led by one of the most evil people I have had the displeasure to meet.

    • @pusb_87english63
      @pusb_87english63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why don’t you give up Hawaii ? I can’t understand why it means that much to you, give it to Russia or China.

  • @JoshuaC923
    @JoshuaC923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome content! I've not seen much coverage of this invasion, thanks for the great work you do

  • @ForOurGood
    @ForOurGood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought another re-hash on Falkands, but I was happy to take away allot of new information with this episode. Good job and looking to the next episode.

  • @ronalddeblois4775
    @ronalddeblois4775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job setting up the prelude and documenting the first actions that do not get the same attention as the later actions.

  • @Daniel-de2jh
    @Daniel-de2jh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now thats how you start a video campaign about a war! Hyped for the next vids!

  • @matthewlok3020
    @matthewlok3020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t wait to see the next part

  • @Emeralds60601
    @Emeralds60601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic video, can't wait for the next one 👍

  • @salamanderpete
    @salamanderpete 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed this, and looking forward to the rest!

  • @Ralphr203
    @Ralphr203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for creating! Loved it!

  • @filipdavkov3936
    @filipdavkov3936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, looking forward to next episode, thumbs up for your channel

  • @halostopmotion8776
    @halostopmotion8776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally more content!

  • @adam6620
    @adam6620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I CAN’T WAIT!!!

  • @Hollows1997
    @Hollows1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent start to the series, I already can’t wait for the next one and look forward to being able to binge watch them as one long documentary when complete.

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Looks like trouble stinker , oh good I like trouble , staaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnd at the bar wiv the laaaaaaaaahhhhhhds 👨🏻‍✈️

  • @julianmhall
    @julianmhall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Niconar Costa Mendez using the phrase 'other means' in that context is a clear reference to Clausewitz' statement that 'war is the continuance of policy by other means'.

  • @peteremilkudskjensen9504
    @peteremilkudskjensen9504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best episode yet!

  • @TankerBricks
    @TankerBricks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking forward to this!!

  • @xarolino
    @xarolino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    as an argentinian this actually puts into perspective how the invasion wasnt as foolish as it was portrayed in my country, the Junta is often shown to be shortsighted and underprepared for the war but you did a good show to present really the british showed alll the signs of not wanting to fight for the islands both politically ignoring threats adn militarly disarming themselves.

    • @datcheesecakeboi6745
      @datcheesecakeboi6745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      didnt the dude only try to capture it to make the people like him or something like that

    • @thecappeningchannel515
      @thecappeningchannel515 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The british wanted to give them to Argentina in the mid 1970s, but could not say so outright, once the Argentinians demanded them, they could not accept being bullief around and the conflict would spin out of control

  • @chameleonedm
    @chameleonedm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic documentary work mate, honestly top tier imo

  • @theyellowjesters
    @theyellowjesters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always great to see a new video from ya. Thank you!
    I learned a lot about the argentine point of view.

  • @WeMustResist
    @WeMustResist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well done. I am very grateful for the history of the pre-invasion and the first hours of the invasion. It is something that has puzzled me for years.

  • @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab
    @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent presentation! Looking forward to more! 👍🏻

  • @frostyrobot7689
    @frostyrobot7689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent, as always, Historigraph. I've read numerous books on the conflict and here I was finding out stuff I didn't know.
    For those who haven't seen it, I would very much recommend seeing 'An Ungentlemanly Act', a BBC drama focused on the initial invasion, where Bob Peck plays Major Mike Norman. It depicts the attack on Government House and Major Norman's later experiences in the war. Yes, after Major Norman and his unit were repatriated, they went back.

  • @blaze1148
    @blaze1148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is incredibly detailed accounts of what happened at the initiation of the Falklands War much of which I never knew - excellent presentation !

  • @sdean4816
    @sdean4816 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice informative video. Thanks for posting.

  • @DardanellesBy108
    @DardanellesBy108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One of the political cartoons I saved from that war shows a shriveled up old lion with a British crown on his head reaching for his dentures as an Argentinian mouse starts chomping on his tail.
    I didn’t realize the British were in the midst of slashing their Naval budget at the time. So the cartoon is quite accurate.
    ---
    I see the comments section is going to be just as interesting as the videos. I’m reminded of why Drachinifel won’t touch any Naval history after 1950. For some, passions are still quite high after 40 years.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well, it's continued to be a useful way for the Argentine government to distract their people from domestic failures for the whole time, and that means the British have spent that time keeping an eye on the Argentines, too.

    • @juanmc5731
      @juanmc5731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Had the Junta not rushed to invade to save their hides, the UK would have little to send as task force.

    • @tomriley5790
      @tomriley5790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alegedly Thatchers first request for a military response to the invasion was that the "Ark Royal" should be there in 48 hours. Which the Falklands were obviously too far away to achieve not to mention that The Ark Royal (and Eagle) had been cut already by her government.

  • @mccabber24
    @mccabber24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "The Empire Strikes Back"

  • @jean-christophedancause5587
    @jean-christophedancause5587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy*??%&/ that amount of work for this video! Good job!!!

  • @gregorycooper1335
    @gregorycooper1335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Concise, balanced and to the point. Very good. I lived through the war in England and through censorship, and poor media reporting hadn't really understood what was going on or why at the time.

  • @midlanddisplay
    @midlanddisplay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent work, well researched and presented.

  • @tiberiusgracchus4222
    @tiberiusgracchus4222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome job! This was such an interesting conflict, both militarily and politically. There is a fantastic documentary I recommend called, "The Falklands War - The Untold Story." It's easy to find on YT.

  • @b1air77
    @b1air77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great content! Can’t wait to hear about Operation Black Buck!

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Meh, that is the most overrated inefective part of the entire conflict, it change some minds at London, but did nothing

    • @connoroneill9406
      @connoroneill9406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@omarbradley6807 it struck fear into the hearts of the argies

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@connoroneill9406 Actually the "Argies" at home barely learned, and the "Argies" at Stanley begun to mock the British "Acuracy". (we are sepeaking of the First Black Buck, as the second third fourth fifth and sixth all failed)

    • @rayjames6096
      @rayjames6096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They had the one small bomb crater on the runway repaired within hours...

    • @johnhelmerbrook6529
      @johnhelmerbrook6529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@omarbradley6807 Ehh, I've heard mixed things about the effectiveness of the bombing. There is no question it did little material damage, but depending upon who you believe it was just useless propaganda for the British Air Force or succeeded in preventing Argentina from stationing jet fighters on the island and making them redeploy fighters to protect Buenos Aires. The truth is probably somewhere in between.

  • @jamesmcstein6758
    @jamesmcstein6758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great first video. I have watched a lot of videos/documantries on The Falklands War. You are the first to go into such detail of the Argentine invasion forces actions. The Argentine commanders speech was very honourable. Looking forward to the next video 👍

  • @YossiSirote
    @YossiSirote 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyable as always 😀👍🏼

  • @mcclickbait4943
    @mcclickbait4943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really hope you don’t leave out the events on South Georgia in the coming episodes. It’s pretty interesting

    • @historigraph
      @historigraph  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rest assured I will not

    • @marjorythomson9310
      @marjorythomson9310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@historigraph Pleased to hear it, they need their story told. I was at an event at Lympstone with members of NP8901/HMS Endurance RM Det when a short film about the Falklands for the 40th Anniversary was shown. Just before the film was run the person showing it said "You never know, you might get a mention" there was some derisive laughter and an "Oh no we won't!". They were right, there wasn't!

  • @sfs2040
    @sfs2040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh man *bunkers down for comments*

  • @robertkitchen6904
    @robertkitchen6904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I met a young man my age back then ,20s ,he was a good darts player, A Faulkland Islander, He was there @ the time, 20 something. Faulklanders only became eligible for a British passport after the war.Many young ones took the opportunity to travel. We met through darts in Sydney Australia 🇦🇺. He said : Just before the invasion, soldiers went door to door 🚪, telling residents we are about to be invaded but we will be back. Stay indoors, when the shooting starts.They watched from there windows. There was a major shoot out as the main invasion came ashore, A small number of British on receiving the order to surrender from government house threw everything they could get there hands on into a 🚙 Jeep & drove to headland.They fired every round ,bazooka etc,then returned to surrender as per orders.Next morning 🌄, He & the islanders walked into town. Argentine body's were lined up in long lines,many drowned by those men sinking the landing craft in freezing waters.The Argentines present left the locals alone as per orders ,except 2 had not were executed on the main street for rape.

    • @daviddaines4704
      @daviddaines4704 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ricky Philips' book 'The First Casualty' covers a lot of first-hand accounts from members of NP8901, it also mentions the landing craft incident. The Argentine casualty figures are probably played down as Marine Mark G who put a round into the AMTRAK said that no one got out of the vehicle after it was hit, so assuming it was full of troops........

  • @Ratdaddy752
    @Ratdaddy752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spectacular. I’m 30 and the son of an army ranger, and I’d never heard of this. Good for those royal marines for giving em hell

    • @rickyphillips7630
      @rickyphillips7630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Royal Marines gave the Argentines such a kicking that Argentina had to lie about it to save face... see the book "The First Casualty" told by everyone involved.

  • @williamshortfilm5818
    @williamshortfilm5818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job! Well done Historigraph

  • @lucatauca7488
    @lucatauca7488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your Videos 😄

  • @johnhelmerbrook6529
    @johnhelmerbrook6529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video! I've been watching several videos on this war and I think yours is the best. Unlike some you try to be unbiased and respect both sides. It seems like everyone want to only highlight the claims that back 'their' side. I look forward to part 2!

  • @shononoyeetus8866
    @shononoyeetus8866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now what I’ve done here is I’ve missed the preview for once

  • @oziligath
    @oziligath 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, an excellent video, thanks for it

  • @EzequielFe
    @EzequielFe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I´m argentinian and i love your objectivity.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Respect that, I lived through it in England and my mates older brother was deployed, despite the British media talking up the jingoistic rhetoric believe me when I say that we are as peaceful a people as you and the good people of Argentina are and I hope we never fight again. Best wishes from Liverpool UK 🇬🇧 🇦🇷

  • @vigilantobserver8389
    @vigilantobserver8389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've seen several other videos about the Falklands, but no other video commented, in such detail, about what precipitated this war. I know the RAF Lockheed L-10Ls needed a lot of additional maintenance, due to the distance flown.

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 ปีที่แล้ว

      Precipitated no preceded yes , ah small measure of years before the fcklands ( internationally recognised as las Malvinas) was about to get written out of the British Nationality bill , Britain wanted shot o it , fact , then thatcher needed to boost her ratings so she went war criminal, why not , successive British governments were already mounting up the crimes against humanity , that’s aboot it

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Everyone speaks of the liberation few speak of the invasion. Very nice that you do.

    • @oscarbosio9881
      @oscarbosio9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nadie invade algo que le es propio.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarbosio9881 No idea what youre saying.

    • @oscarbosio9881
      @oscarbosio9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Si es tu territorio no es una invasión, en todo caso una recuperacion. Igual no es mi problema si no tenes idea, pero es algo lógico y no muy difícil de entender.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarbosio9881 If you wish to speak to me speak, latviski, english, russijan or german.

    • @oscarbosio9881
      @oscarbosio9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Gracias, prefiero no hacerlo, no me suma nada. Escribo y hablo en mi idioma,

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just realised it's the 40th anniversary of this war

  • @SuperMrScience
    @SuperMrScience 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so so well done man. Love it the maps and how easy it is to follow. Can’t wait to watch the rest of this series! ❤

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think Colin Stein was underrated coz he went grey quite young 🧟‍♂️

  • @sydhendrix4853
    @sydhendrix4853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid. Commenting for algorithm

  • @gilileo8732
    @gilileo8732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Vid! Ass always. Can't await the follow-up.

  • @mikeycraig8970
    @mikeycraig8970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's a good film about the Argentine invasion, called An Ungentlemanly Act. Argentina would portray it as a walkover for which the Royal Marines quickly surrendered. Infact they caused more casualties on the Argie side and only stopped fighting becausr they had nothing to stop any sort of advancing armour. Continued resistance would lead to the same outcome only maybe with civilian casualties this time. The Brits considered the civilians safety, the Argentines did not!

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exclusion zone , set by the silence fc , outside exclusion zone , 323 murdered sailors , war crime 👮🏻‍♂️

    • @mikeycraig8970
      @mikeycraig8970 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenwalker850 no such film. No such incident. Sailors of war SUNK AT WAR.
      Idiot.