(RE UPLOAD) THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS (2002)| FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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- THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS (2002)| FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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Hey guys! We had to re upload because on the second day of it being posted 20 minutes of the video was removed. So here’s the full length back! Thanks for being patient y’all!
Just call it the directors cut...
When I watched it yesterday, it was the same length as it is here. What happened in between?
Y’all need to give “American History X” a reaction.. it’s a must see movie
So glad you were able to re upload it! :D Very excited to watch The Return of the King with y'all.
Thank You. 😎👍
Fun fact, when Gandalf first reappears in the white light, and speaks before he's seen... the way they did his voice in order to keep the audience in the dark, was to have Christopher Lee (Saruman) imitate Gandalf's voice, and they had Ian McKellan (Gandalf) imitate Saruman's voice. They then overplayed the two voices to conceal who it really was.
Yes, that was brilliantly done!
They even did that in the german dub and I think its very cool
@@shawtystrange7531 Oh wow, I had no idea! That's so cool that they went above and beyond like that!!!
that saruman guy was a shitty white wizard anyway
I could tell it was Christopher Lee's voice when he first started speaking, and then it sounded like Gandalf's voice started to increasingly bleed through the more he spoke.
I couldn't tell that they were trying to imitate each other's voices.
Liv Tyler was PERFECTLY cast as Arwen. Basically every casting choice in this entire series is a slam dunk. Whoever the casting manager for this movie was, deserved every bit of praise they received. They assembled one of the best casts in the history of blockbuster movies.
Despite the fact that her character is entirely different in the book, the look is well cast.
@@theccpisaparasite8813 I have a lot of gripes with the book to movie adaptation, but i far prefer the movie arwen. she's an actual person! with goals and lines! there's so few female characters in tolkien's works that i'm alright sacrificing glorfindel for her lol
@@toads13*glorfindel :)
@@toads13they also made Aragorn more three-dimensional and gave him an actual arc
@@TomorrowWeLive oh shit you're right. sorry to glorfindel 💔
"No parent should have to bury their child". Gets me EVERY time. Scuse me while I ugly cry now.
How many had to do that after the battle of helms deep
That was a moment that showed me Tolkien had truly been through war.
@@ShadowyFox_86 The line wasn't in the books, but I can still see King Theoden saying it to Gandalf.
That's actually straight from Tolkien; From his experiences fighting in WWI. Same with the dead marshes; from his memories of seeing the dead in the water filled shell holes.
Yup. Makes my eyes wet every time.
Something to keep in mind - when they ride out at the end, they're not riding out because they think Gandalf is coming, they are riding out to die in the hopes that their charge will disrupt the enemy long enough for their women and children to escape. It really is a ride to their deaths as far as they know, and a worthwhile sacrifice to buy their loved ones a chance.
The Rohirrim are like refined mounted Vikings, so a glorious death in battle for an honorable cause must have pleased Theoden.
@@danieldickson8591 Tolkien was a professor of Anglo-Saxon and his Rohirrim are A-S warriors, not Vikings. Their speech and their poetry is all based on Anglo-Saxon, a language I was studying when I read LotR for the first time 55 years ago, and the presentation of their culture blew me away.
Not necessarily for Aragorn. He KNEW Gandalf would show.
One of the amazing things about these movies is they were filmed entirely in New Zealand. Literally the best tourism video ever made.
The New Zealand landscape is staggeringly beautiful. The country definitely benefited from having that showcased so dramatically.
Sure is! Come visit, any time.
@@joannelong8056
Definitely on the bucket list!
Its a beautiful country but I think mosh people from there would even say its out their country on the map. And well deserved
“I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.” - Faramir
One of my favorite Tolkien lines.
Great line! While on a walk with my wife and random talking with her about the personalities of soldiers, I was trying to tell my wife about that line from fiction, but had forgotten why I knew it. Yes, at age 12 when I read the books in the 1960s, Faramir was my favorite character in Two Towers. Very different in the movie... they amplified Denethor as an abusive parent and made Faramir into an emotionally injured, desperate character. In the book he was so wise and composed, never feeling jealous of his brother, underappreciated by his father, studious and insightful as well as skilled with the sword, loved by the soldiers under his command, a brave and competent captain.
@@samanrj0663 He's not jealous of his brother in the movies, the extended editions make that very clear, he just wants his father to be proud of him.
The extended editions also better capture his character, when he gives the little speech about duty (Sam gives it in the books but it fits Faramir as well).
Faramir and Sam were the kind of people I wanted to become when I was a kid.
@@samanrj0663 I never got those feelings from the movie. To me he was doing whatever he could for his people. Including not taking the ring. He didn’t seem jealous, he just wanted his fathers love.
A chance for Faramir, Captain of Gondor, to show his quality.
When my mom read this to me as a kid, new chapters would switch to a different story line. I remember that feeling of being left hanging at the end of a chapter and saying "No!", not wanting to leave that storyline. And then being instantly hooked with the start of the next.
My teddy bear was named Gandalf, my stuffed cat Frodo, my stuffed tiger Samwise, and my little stuffed dog Bilbo. I had a Merry and Pippin , too, but I don't remember what they were, as they were later additions. At 61, I can still see the first four in my mind's eye.
You had a wonderful mother.
@saman rj06 Indeed I do. She lives with me and my husband now. ❤️
We're the same age, I read "The Hobbit" first then started the trilogy when I was 16. I had a horse names of course Shadowfax, a dog named Gimly-Gloins -son and a cat named Aowyn... Read the Silmarilian and other Tolkien works years later and loved them as well.
We had cats named Merry and Pippin
We named them when we first got them back in 2002
It’s now 2022 and Pippin is still with us
He’s 20 years old!!!
He endures- like Sauron
@@flyonthewindshield3653 Love it! My mom read The Hobbit to me and my sister before moving onto The Lord of the Rings. I learned to read by following along in The Hobbit. By the time I started school, I was miles ahead, and it was pleasurable, not painful and boring. Goes to show the value of reading to kids.
I’m 67 and this trilogy is my number one go to every time. Especially in the winter when it rainy and cold. I get up and take care of my chores, then grab a quilt, make popcorn and hit the sofa. All 12 hrs of it…….the only reason I pause is a bathroom break and more food !!! Since I have the trilogy collection, I do this a lot and it never fails….I always see something I missed the other times. Never, ever, ever gets old. I’m so glad you’re enjoying it. Heck I can’t believe you’d never seen it. It was like mandatory reading when I was in school.
Love that! That sounds like a lovely, heartwarming tradition :) I think I may try the 12-hour watching marathon myself!
@perusing350, sounds like a winner to me…you can’t go wrong with it. It’s been a while since I’ve watched it and I’d already decided to wait for the next rainy, stormy day and do just that.
One reason the Hobbits were able to resist the ring was the conflicting natures of them. Sauron filled the ring with his desire to dominate all life. The Hobbits have no desire for that at all. They are gardeners. They keep to themselves, which is why it took so long for Sauton to find them. And Sam in particular cared only about Frodo's well- being. The ring didn't really have anything to exploit in them to corrupt them.
In the novels it's also repeatedly pointed out that Hobbits are just really tough when push comes to shove, physically and mentally. They survive and endure things that even the Great among the other races admit they could not have.
If that's the case, what's the explanation behind Frodo constantly on the edge of corruption?
@@NYC_Goody Frodo has Took blood in him. The Tooks are more adventurous and interested in the wide world. And the ring is powerful.
@@NYC_Goody They are harder to corrupt, not impossible. Bilbo lived with the ring for a long time and it eventually corrupted him. Frodo also carried the ring, and he was stabbed with that Morgul blade that poisoned his blood and left him in constant pain which eats at your mind, body, and soul.
Some of these reasons may play into it, but the main reason was there were no rings created for the Hobbits. Lore indicates Lord Sauron didn't even know about Hobbits. In the books it mentions he gave a number of rings each to the Elves, Dwarves, and the Humans, but no mention of Hobbits. The rings were crafted to corrupt each race they were given to and the one ring he made for himself was the most powerful and ruled them all. Since none were made or given to Hobbits, they were less likely to be able to influence the Hobbits, still could but just much less of a chance. Gandalf new this once he realized what the ring was but needed Frodo to accept the ring and then the quest.
They actually filmed all three movies at the same time and released each of them 1 year apart during December. The seamlessness of these movies really show the benefit to making movies this way.
Yes, but it took them 7 years to finish, starting 1997 with creating the script, which was extremely difficult to convert from the books and ended 2004. the time between the releases was much needed for editing, visual fx and music score.
I know Sam is the ultimate ride or die, but I just want to recognize that Gimli literally threw himself between Aragorn and the Uruk-hai army to defend his friend. I freaking love the characters in this trilogy. Great video y’all.
Gimli is used a lot for comic relief in these movies, unlike in the novels. But at least the movies keep reminding us that he's also a mighty fighter and a faithful comrade.
Gimli is my spirit animal. Every time he’s on screen, he’s fucking awesome.
Sam carries Frodo's ass in the novels.
@@ironpamf True, and in the movies too. But Frodo's ass is carrying the One Ring, and that's a lot to carry.
@@ironpamf but Frodo is also stronger, braver and wiser in the novels, and Sam is not bailing him out from the get-go.
Love the reaction. I was very fortunate to work on the The Lord of the Rings trilogy for a few years. I was an extra and background stunt fighter. I played many different characters. Being part of the battle of Helms Deep was just incredible! I also did some behind the scenes stuff. It was a truly amazing made better because I got to share the experience with three of my brothers 😊
It doesn’t get much cooler than that! I won’t tell you how many times I watched the films in the theaters, let alone all the dvd and behind the scene stuff. I distinctly remember all those behind the scenes videos of Helms Deep. It was a tough shoot, from what I recall. But I bet it was a great experience and memory to be proud of.
What an amazing experience!
That’s awesome, must have been an amazing experience
That's awesome 😍 you was very lucky 😊
So awesome to hear you were part of it - thanks for doing your bit!!
A little clarification, Gandalf did die, but was allowed to come back because he was the only one of the Wizards to stay true to their mission (to help the free peoples fight Sauron). Gandalf and the other wizards are Miar- Tolkiens version of angels. Just put in old mortal bodies so they may be reminded that their purpose is to serve, not rule. Sauron is also a Miar, though obviously fallen.
Maia were lesser deities
He was not allowed to come back. He and the other Istari (a.k.a. Wizards who were all Maiar) had been sent to Middle-Earth by the Valar (like the Maiar but of a higher order) to aid the Free Peoples against Sauron but not to do by dominating the Free Peoples. When Gandalf was succumbed to the wounds he suffered while slaying the Balrog (who was also a Maia), Eru Ilúvatar, the God in Tolkien's Legendarium intervened to restore Gandalf's original power and then Eru Ilúvatar sent him back to complete his task.
I think another reason for Gandalf being sent back is the fact that his death in Moria maybe never has been designated by Illuvatar himself because the death ones do not come back usually. Moria indeed was a separate path insofar, but necessary to overcome evil eventually.
I got the impression the guise the Istari (wizards) wore was for the benefit of Men, so they'd be seen as wise with years of experience, but not physically threatening. Nothing Gandalf did in the novels or movies implied the frailty of age.
@@danieldickson8591 The blue wizards were different they were powerfully built, very physically intimidating and looked like they were in their late 30s early 40s. They went far to the east and are the main reason Saron was unable to call on the eastern peoples in this war.
"Every tree has it's enemy, few have an advocate. In all my works, I take the part of trees against all their enemies." - J.R.R. Tolkien
It wasn’t Gandalf blinding them at the end it was just the sunrise but it was part of Gandalf’s plan. As we know “a wizard arrives precisely when he means to.” Makes it all the more poetic in a hidden callback.
It was both; he enhanced the natural light to unbearable levels.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 There's no pain quite like the "eye stab" you can get when the sun is low and flat in the sky at certain times of year. Now imagine that eye stab enhanced by Gandalf and it's easy to understand why those orcs are suddenly squinting and flinching.
@@billholder1330 dude was wielding that power like a G!
That is simply not true when you said, "It wasn’t Gandalf blinding them at the end it was just the sunrise but it was part of Gandalf’s plan". Nice stab at logic though, and I'll even admit that he may have chosen that specific time to take advantage of the sunrise, as an "additive effect" but no, your reasoning is not correct, at least not completely. I can't and won't go into it because I don't do spoilers, but if you've seen all of the related movies, then you either missed it, or you weren't paying attention.
In the books during this scene it is actually Gandalf that creates a white light that the orcs can’t endure. This happens throughout the story.
It’s tolkiens version of gandalfs holiness being too much for evil to look upon
When watching these films, always worth remembering that Tolkien fought in WW1, he witnessed destruction on an unimaginable, industrial scale. The scene in the Dead Marshes with the faces was directly inspired by his experience in the trenches of the Somme.
From the books:
Aragorn gained the door, and swiftly it clanged to behind him. "Things go ill, my friends," he said, wiping the sweat from his brow with his arm.
"Ill enough," said Legolas, "but not yet hopeless, while we have you with us. Where is Gimli?"
"I do not know," said Aragorn. "I last saw him fighting on the ground behind the wall, but the enemy swept us apart."
"Alas! That is evil news," said Legolas.
"He is stout and strong," said Aragorn. "Let us hope that he will escape back to the caves. There he would be safe for a while. Safer than we. Such a refuge would be to the liking of a dwarf."
"That must be my hope," said Legolas. "But I wish that he had come this way. I desired to tell Master Gimli that my tale is now thirty-nine."
"If he wins back to the caves, he will pass your count again," laughed Aragorn. "Never did I see an axe so wielded."
I love that the competition is in both book and movie form. It's so sweet to watch their friendship grow.
@3RobSquadMovieReactions - Fuck off, scammer.
I JUST finished reading the helms deep chapter for the first time and the competition was something I had never expected to actually come from Tolkien. It makes me love it that much more
After the war of the ring, Legolas and Gimli visited fangorn forest because Legolas found it to be the most beautiful place he has ever seen. They then took a trip back to the glittering caves of helms deep because gimli found that to be the most beautiful place he'd ever seen. Then after aragorn died, they retired to the undying lands forever. Best bromance in history.
@@brandocalrissian3294 Their relationship is so sweet, though as an aroace person, I much prefer reading it as a really close friendship. Same with Frodo and Sam (I just want representation, please 😭), though I can see how both could be read as romantic.
@@nori9111 bromance usually refers to bros being best bros. Not usually romantic.
And ill agree that whilr you can imprint romance, especially on sam and frodo, i too prefer the friendship angle. Deep male bonds of brotherhood are very rare to see or hear about.
The horse that finds Aragorn is explained in the extended versions. He's Theoden's sons horse, the son who died. Earlier in the movie Aragorn is in the stables and the horse is going wild, with multiple stable hands trying and failing to calm him. Aragorn speaks Elvish to the horse and calms him down. He then tells them to release the horse to run free as its seen enough of war. Thats the horse that then finds and saves him. Awesome full circle moment.
It isn't in the books but it's sure Tolkien would have wrote it if he had thought of it. There was no one better to direct these movies than Peter Jackson
I'm* not it's
My only gripe with the movies is Tom Bombadil was left out. Sure he's a side character but he still is important because of his resistance to the ring
@@jobymahon2871 Nope, it was the right call to remove him. 100%. They are just starting to build up the rings corrupting power in the beginning. To then immediately have the first Forest Pimp they run into shake it off like its nothing ruins the build up entirely. Plus its another thing the "why don't they just fly on Eagles to Mordor" idiot crowd can ask... "Why don't they just give it to that Tom guy?" I love the character, but he doesn't fit into a movie at all.
@@KS-xk2so that is actually really well thought out and makes sense. I just really liked Tom because he broke up the melancholic theme of the story. It's nice having a laugh when the fate of world rests in the hands of one so small
The horse that helped Aragorn wasn't just acting on instinct, he was returning a favor. Aragorn had Éowyn let him go because he had had enough of war. This is Brego, Théodred's (Théoden's dead son) horse. He will be Aragorn's horse from this point onward. The horse Aragorn had been riding never went off the cliff.
Exactly.... why they put a halter and lead on him is beyond me.
They need to watch the Extended Versions after they finish these 3 Theatrical Versions to get the full story.
@@amandabispo2949 Or just read the books to get the real story :)
When some of Aragorn's fellow rangers arrive after the Battle of Helm's Deep didn't they bring
him his own horse? I think the name was Hasufel.
@@SnowmanN49 That was only in the books. The Grey Company brought Aragorn his own horse Roheryn. Hasufel was the horse that Aragorn had been riding prior to this. It was given to him by Éomer in compensation for the supposed loss of Merry and Pippin.
The latter happened in the movies, as well, but my original comment is only relevant to the movies, as is Brego, who doesn't exist in the books (except as the name of a former king of Rohan, which is why Aragorn said his name is kingly--a sly reference). In the books, there was no Warg attack and Aragorn didn't fall off a cliff, and therefore he didn't need to be helped by a grateful horse.
I often like to mention what happens in the books, myself, but we have to be careful to keep it separate from what happens in the movies.
You'll notice a lot of characters face certain death at some point and it's interesting to see their reactions. Gandalf falling with the balrog had no hesitation. Grabbed his sword and fought all the way down to the deepest deep. King Theoden did not know Gandalf was coming back. When he said what can we do against such reckless hate, he was really giving up. But then Aragorn reminded him, if all is lost, go down fighting. It's just easy to forget, like Boromir blowing the horn, these characters are really in moments where they know this is it, I'm dying right here.
Boromir gets me every time. And his closing words are damn near painful
I wonder where we experience such reckless hate?
Just wanted to point out the cloaks that the elves gave the hobbits in the first movie - the cloaks are magic. So that’s why it disguised Frodo and Sam as a rock when they were by the black gate. The gifts the elves gave the fellowship save their lives multiple times throughout the trilogy!
Yes, I think PJ didn't quite explain the cloaks or sam's elvish rope. And he couldn't show that Sam received a particularly personalized and important gift from Galadriel.. a small box containing soil from her orchard and a single seed of the majestic Mallorn tree to honor his love of gardening. In the chapter Scouring of the Shire, Saruman and his recruited rough men go to the Shire and oppress the inhabitants and ravage-industrialize the land. The four hobbits return to the Shire and rally everyone to overthrow Saruman's gang. Then Sam labors to plant saplings with a sprinkling of the magic soil across the shire, and plants the Mallorn nut where Saruman's ruffians had torn down the great tree of Bilbo's party.
@@samanrj0663 No spoiler alert?
@@theperfectmotorcycleistwom9921 For a 70 year old book?
@@samanrj0663 I think we did heard about the cloaks and the elvish rope in extended version. Although it’s another thing that nobody would remember these details on their first watch.
@@Tooba-K123 I'll look for it on my next rewatch... thanks
Andy Serkis' performance as Smeagol/Gollum is just simply amazing, every time i see it.... like you saw, you go from being freaked out by him, to feeling sympathy... back and forth, just a brilliant blending of CGI and acting talent...
And not to forget, it was actually Andy speaking! What a voice actor too….
Shadowfax is unique among horses. he is Lord of the Mearas, a special breed of high intelligence & stamina the ancestors of the Rohirrim made a pact with many centuries ago. for him to allow Gandalf to ride him is a very high honor.
Sam's speech at the end is one of the most beautiful and inspiring monologues ever. He is the truest character in the whole story.
I love the look of terror and regret on Wormtongue’s face when he sees the army, it makes his character believable in some small way. He just wanted power, but now he sees the error in his plan
I didn't see that in his face, I saw awe. Like he was about to weep with it, having never seen such a huge army before.
@@DataLal I guess I saw the same weeping face but I see it more as his guilt than awe. Especially considering he ended up killing Sarumon
@@DataLal I disagree, I thought it was a tear of regret and terror from knowing he has played a part in potential eradication of his own race.
@@DataLal His face was in dismay of what he helped to do, essentialy destroy and kill all of his people. He simply wanted the girl and some power to live in comfort and do as he pleases, but then realized how far he'd gone. He wanted simple pleasures, not an extinction event. It just helps describe what a lunatic Saruman was and what an army he created. One word - genocide.
It was a look of absolute awe/astonishment. Apparently the actor was just instructed to look amazed, but he improvised a single tear because he's that freakin talented.
Fun fact: Those snowy misty mountains at the beginning of the film were raised and created by Morgoth, Sauron's former master when Morgoth was trying to stop the travels of Orome, who was trying to stop and destroy Morgoth's evil creatures. This happened in The Years Of The Trees, tens of thousands of years before the events in The Lord Of The Rings.
Oh, also...if you guys really love all the amazing work done in this trilogy, I would highly HIGHLY suggest you guys find and watch the full behind the scenes documentaries for the entire trilogy. It's bafflingly amazing what this film crew accomplished. SO amazing!
totally agree. i have the extended DVDs and have watched all the appendices as well as watched each movie with the commentary on, which is great fun.
@@LBrobie I decided to watch all the commentaries back to back once... That was fun but if I do it again I will space them out a little more 😀
I agree. That was on the dvds. It was a great watch!
Yes and begin their journey into Arda by doing similar reactions to things like OmarioRPG and Moviejoob have been doing.
@@LBrobie have you checked out the reaction videos OmarioRPG and Moviejoob have been doing? I have been doing all I can to make sure more channels get a chance to see Tolkiens great works through channels like Men Of The West, Tolkien Untangled, GirlNextGondor, CluelessFangirl, VoiceOfGeekdom, And Above All The Red Book and Many more!
That shot of Gandalf charging down the hill, leading the Riders of Rohan into the thick of battle as the glorious music is playing never gets old
Love your reactions to this. The other folks are right that you would enjoy the extended editions. Keep in mind that the last one, Return of the King, won 11 Academy awards including Best Picture. Only 2 other films in history have done that. You're going to love it!
24:26 loved how back and forth you guys were about trusting Gollum. I’m honestly shocked how enjoyable it is to experience this movie all over again through your channel. This reaction was so FUN!
I think the biggest problem with this otherwise great movie is how they changed Faramir's character. In the book, he never tries to bring the ring to Gondor. He is wiser and calmer and humbler than his brother was. He immediately recognized the evil of the ring, and realized that it would only bring destruction. I don't remember the exact quote, but in the book, he says something like, "If I saw this thing lying in the road, I wouldn't pick it up." He doesn't take Frodo and Sam to Osgiliath, and his men don't beat on Gollum.
Oh, and it's also important to know that the whole thing about "to enter the forbidden pool bears the penalty of death" is not just some arbitrary rule. The waterfall that feeds the pool hides the entrance to the cave that Faramir and his men are using as a secret base, within the no-man's-land between Gondor and Mordor. They are what in modern terms would be called guerilla fighters. They can't risk their secret base being exposed and discovered by the enemy.
Yes!!! 100% It was my only real quibble with the movie - they got Faramir all wrong. On the other hand they gave him more of a character arc. But that scene "I think you and I understand one another" Say what? Why do you suddenly understand one another? In my view while they DID introduce the character arc, it just didn't make any sense!
@@ianrayner7522 Faramir witnessed first hand the terrible hold the Ring had on Frodo, and recognized how it would corrupt and destroy whoever held it. He also realized that in spite of that, and of being hunted by all the forces of Mordor, Frodo selflessly took that burden on to try to save everyone.
PhilBagels, I respect your position. Mine is that it made for a more dramatic character arc for Faramir to act first out of loyalty to his father, but come to realize the true peril of taking the Ring and choose to pass it on. It better matches the father-son dynamic presented in the third movie. In the novel Faramir was too perfect IMHO, never conflicted. But note that even in the movie he never claimed the Ring for himself as Boromir was tempted to. Faramir always intended to take it back to Denethor.
@PhilBagels THANK YOU for posting that!
I have long argued that Faramir in the book is little more than a plot device. Frodo and Sam need information, which Faramir gives to them. He also re-provisions them, and warns them. We, as readers, also get information we need about the situation in Gondor and about the war in general. I won't mention his story function in 'The Return of the King' here, but, again, he has no character arc in the book, but is important to the plot (the first could also be applied to Aragorn and that Jackson gave us one is a blessing.) Faramir is meant to show us the true nature of the Numenorians, and he does that well. Otherwise he comes over as pretty much faultless...
Little known fact about the scene during Theodred's burial, when Theoden says to Gandalf "No parent should have to bury their child" he had recently spoken to a survivor of a terrorist bombing, during which a mother had lost their child. She had spoken those very words to him. So he improvised that line, and used the pain of her loss as motivation. All of the cast in these movies did a phenomenal job! One of the best trilogies in the world in my opinion.
The reason Gollum was screaming about the rope around his neck was because it was made by Elves. There is just so much more in the books that explain most everything.
If Peter Jackson had included everything it would hav been 6 movies extended editions.
These movie’s pretty much swept the Oscars.
This is my second time watching your reactions to this and I just love it.
Only Return of the King really “swept” the Oscars. Fellowship won 4, but it’s highest profile award was for Best Cinematography. Two Towers only won Best Visual Effects and Best Sound Editing. But Return of the King won a whopping 11 Oscars, including Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Screenplay.
Yeah the elves had a tendency to imbue their creations with their essence. Their opposition and hatred for Melkor, Sauron, and the orcs is why the weapons created by the elves of Gondolin glowed blue when orcs were near. Same thing with the rope given to Sam. The essence infused in it physically burned Gollum.
@@XeonAlpha I don't know if it's so much "hatred" as just the inherent corrosive nature of good upon evil. Tolkien's Elves are basically angels, so I see the effect of their artifacts on evil creatures (or creatures controlled by evil) as akin to the effect of a cross on a vampire; it's not created to hurt them, but their evil choices make goodness itself unbearable (moral parallel here with the psychological effect of seeing a person making moral choices; if you chose not to make the same moral choice, seeing such an example tends to make it hard to excuse your own conduct to yourself).
This is explained in the extended editions. I don't like how they watched the theatrical versions for their reaction videos. Extended or not at all. Reading the books though is always the best way to enjoy the story. Especially because glorfindel is not cut out and replaced by arwen.
That elvish rope was Galadriel’s gift to Sam, if I remember correctly.
14:29 Fun fact: Aragorn hit that helmet so hard, actually broken his toe and that scream was the real deal. So good actor he is, owned the pain and kept the scene alive.
There is is, I was wondering how far I'd need to scroll to find it
@@KingAce595 At this point this fun fact has become it's own meme.
@@KingAce595This is the Way.
Oh my god it's the guy
@@KingAce595lmfao only reason I’m in the comments
Don't know why the re-upload but I saw the original and it was great. It's to me the greatest story ever told. The author had to live through world war one, and saw the carnage of a war machine saw how people were ruthless. But like Sam says at the end of the two Towers there is some good in this world and it's worth fighting for. Love it.
My best guess it probably got struck by copie write
I think that there was a section missing before they arrived at the domain of King Theodin and also Gandalf's return
Something funky happened with the video and it jumped from the encounter with Gollum to the trip to Helm's Deep.
Most likely they got a copyright strike.
I love how everybody's giving different reasons but I know the actual one.
The 1st video they Uploaded the sound was not lined up with the video. It did well until Worm tongue kicked old boy out of rohan and then their reaction was behind the actual movie by like a solid 30 seconds or more
The extended editions of these movies have so much background material about how the movies were made that is absolutely fascinating, especially the props (weapons, armor, freaking entire buildings!) and the actors and crew. They are just as wonderful as the movies themselves. Hope you can someday watch all of that stuff (though it's another 3-4 hours per movie). Also, the soundtracks are tremendous by themselves.
Amber said she loves literature- the Lord of the Rings trilogy is beautiful to read and does differ from the movies slightly
That said, these movies are stunningly beautiful. The big wide shots were mostly done in New Zealand to answer the question of where it was ahot
The New Zealand natural scenery is jaw-dropping, and very little had to be added with digital effects.
The practical effects in this trilogy were insane. Leading the pack. That's where the Hobbit trilogy falls short. Also Andy Serkis does an absolutely fantastic job in motion capture as Smeagol/Gollum.
Oh, it falls short in many more ways than just the special effects.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 in what ways? I feel they did quite well with it. The cast and acting was excellent. The characters were well done, but admittedly Thorin had his flaws. Yes, the source material was drawn out, but if you separate the trilogy from the book, it makes for good cinema. That point also covers the added story lines.
@@bairnonessie I could write an essay on what they did wrong, but in the interest of time let's start with Thorin since you brought him up. The biggest sin they committed with Thorin is making him the focus of the trilogy by making him into a sort of diminutive Aragorn figure. They COMPLETELY missed the mark on his characterization. He was supposed to be a sardonic, crotchety old geezer who appeared old even by dwarf standards, with a long snow white beard. They were clearly trying to mimic The Lord of the Rings and drastically shifted the tone of the story to try and match it, and did everything in their power to make sure to remind us every step of the way that the movies were a prequel to LotR, completely robbing the films of any chance at forming their own identity. They even used the Ring wraith's theme song for a confrontation with orcs, for Pete's sake! They had no business using that song at all, it was pure "hey guys, remember Lord of the Rings?"
But the biggest overall sin committed was taking the focus away from Bilbo. The Hobbit is Bilbo's story, he is THE character, yet the films made him A character, and not even the main one. So many important Bilbo moments were either left out or downplayed in favor of more over the top action sequences for the dwarves. And don't get me started (too late) on the way they disrespected the lore. The dwarf/elf romance was completely absurd, and undermines the fact that Gimli and Legolas were historically the pair that finally bridged the chasm between their peoples after so long at each others' throats. And dwarves can't be handsome, they're crude in appearance because they were not created by Eru Ilúvatar (the god of Middle-earth) but by Aulë the Smith, one of the valar (god's beneath Eru) out of rock in an attempt to see if he could also create life. Long story short, while Eru Ilúvatar ultimately granted them souls, they were crudely 'constructed' beings of the earth, and that's why they've always been portrayed as ugly, and why the idea of a handsome dwarf completely ignores the lore.
Okay, I'm gonna stop here because I'm typing this up on mobile and I'll carry on for hours if I let myself. I'll just add as a final comment that any and all power and presence they gave Smaug was completely ruined by the end of that Tom and Jerry chase sequence. The films focused on the unimportant parts of the story, forgot and downplayed the important parts, and crammed it with so much nonsensical filler and executive mandated additions that the results were nine hours of cinematic molasses that should have been a total of four hours at most.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 I've noticed that when Peter Jackson is given free hand to make whatever movie he wants, he leans toward excessive. LOTR is such a vast story, he was forced to pair it down to its essentials to fit an acceptable time frame. The Hobbit is one much smaller book that could have comfortably fit one movie, or two if Jackson tried to keep everything in. Instead he made three movies, which he padded out with invented characters and scenes, additional themes and plotlines, spectacle for its own sake, and much else that's not in the novel.
@@danieldickson8591 it wasn't all on Jackson. There was a *lot* of meddling from the execs. They're the ones who insisted on the romance sub-plot, for example. They're also the ones who insisted on making it a trilogy. They also put stringent deadlines in place, forcing the production to use production shortcuts (such as an increase in cg/green screen and decrease in prosthetics). Jackson was also brought in late to the project, as it was originally helmed by Guillermo del Toro. So Jackson is definitely guilty of some of the crimes committed in the films, but ultimately I feel bad for him. You can tell he isn't proud of the Hobbit films. But yeah, he does tend to favor excess, and it's why the Return of the King is my least favorite of the trilogy (the absurd size of the mumakil, the inclusion of the Army of the Dead at Pelennor, and Legolas' antics going too extreme).
Try not to blame Aragorn for having mercy on Grima. His philosophy is similar to that of Gandalf in terms of dealing death that doesn't have to be dealt. We do not know what role Grima might yet have to play, for good or evil, but people like Gandalf and Aragorn choose to leave that to Eru (God), not their own judgment. The same applies to Sméagol/Gollum. The audience probably feels as Sam does, but Frodo listened to Gandalf, and realizes that this is all part of a larger plan that they cannot grasp.
In the bigger picture, the author, J.R.R. Tolkien, a devout Catholic, believed deeply in allowing people a chance for forgiveness and redemption. Often it doesn't work out, and he knew that, and wrote it into his stories, but the opportunity has to be there. In his belief, everyone deserved a chance to prove themselves after doing wrong, which is why Tolkien had Aragorn spare his life. Maybe it was a mistake or maybe not, but God would decide that.
Perfect explanation 👍
In the book it wasn't Aragorn that pled for Wormtoungue to be spared, it was King Theoden.
As I recall from the books, it wasn't clear that Wormtongue was an agent of Saruman so letting him go was giving him a chance to join the army and fight for Rohan. Instead, he goes straight to Saruman.
The first movie reaction channel I find where BOTH of you are actually engaged in the movie not just watching and obviously not invested. Love it, just subscribed and will be binge-watching!
The thing about Gandalf and Saruman is that they're not human. They're Maiar, which can be thought of as equivalent to Angels in the LOTR cosmology. the Balrog and Sauron are also Maiar. The Wizards (Gandalf, Saruman, and 3 others) were sent to Middle Earth specifically to work against Sauron. Above the Maiar are the Valar, who are closer to greek/roman gods. They govern aspects of middle earth (air, earth, stuff like that). And above the Valar is Eru Illuvatar. He created Middle Earth, but left the Valar to do most of the actual shaping of the world.
fun fact: Christopher Lee, Saruman's actor, was the only member of the cast to have met J.R.R. Tolkien. Christopher Lee had one hell of an interesting life, including service in WWII, being step-cousins with James Bond's creator Ian Flemming, Holding the record for most on screen sword fights. He also made a metal album about Charlemagne when he was in his 80s.
I think he said he was the only one who'd read the books as well. He had wanted to play Gandalf if it ever hit the screen, and I'm sure he would have done a good job, but since it is what it is, I can't imagine it any other way than him as Saruman and Ian McKellen as Gandalf.
Wow. I thought Christopher Lee was always an interesting person but these are great antidotes about an actor I thought was underrated.
@@noraelliott7304 - if i remember correctly - he was a spy in WWII - a very good spy and quite deadly to boot
@@jonniiinferno9098 that is what was said. Yes.
@@noraelliott7304 - "service in WWII" was a fairly generic account of one of our best spies - i was just being more specific about Christopher Lee's "service in WWII" - because being a "spy" in WWII was extremely dangerous - many spies, when discovered - were tortured - then executed...
I couldn't wait to see you guys's reaction to Gandalf. I was not disappointed, probably one of the greatest surprises in cinema history. I think I rewatched your reactions maybe 10 times. If I ever have any children I am going to read them the LoTR books and also Star Wars books. J.R.R. Tolkien was a genius and made one of the best stories ever. Also when Eowyn ran outside and the flag came off of the flagpole and flew away. That was an accident,. but they kept it in the film because it literally set the tone of a kingdom dying and coming apart.
all of Galadriel's gifts to the Fellowship are enchanted to help the user. the cloaks provide a degree of invisibility, the rope knows when it's no longer needed & unties itself.
If you notice they are also tied to the power of Nenya, the ring of power that Galadriel wields, that of preservation and concealment.
“What do you fear?” “A cage” that hit so hard
⚜️ During the intro to Fellowship of the Ring, when Jay said that he never had any interest in watching LOTR 👀, I think we all knew that he was going to be an instant convert. 😂 You can't watch this series and not be drawn in completely. ❤️
It’s been forever and a day since I’ve seen the theatrical releases but if you like the depth of these characters I really recommend making sure you see the entended edition for the third film at least. The extended editions are closer to the books and give more depth to the characters though they are much longer due to this. If you have time I also recommend seeing the entire extended trilogy just for your own fun someday.
That 45 minute Battle of Helm's Deep is possibly the greatest battle ever recorded on film. The actors had to live on the set -- in the rain and cold. There were few contacts with the outside world... they were living this war. Inconceivable!
Thank you for the trouble of re-loading the mystical missing 20 minutes.
PLEASE, watch the Extended version of The Return of the King. Of all the extended versions of LOtR this one is the most important. Not only does it flesh out some parts that left the viewers of the theatrical version scratching their heads, but it was important enough that the actors even flew back from their home countries to New Zealand to film these part 👍 👑 ❤️
Yes, you really must watch the extended versions! Of all three movies! (And also "The Hobbitt"!)
@@helmutb2612 The extended editions suck.
@segagenysis6918 your opinion is no longer valid.
@@DestinyAwaits19 Can't believe you actually said that without a shred of sarcasm. What a truly mind numbing opinion 😬
@@DeadlyPimps How so?
The voice of Treebeard is John Rhys-Davies, who played Gimli. John's height is 6'1". He was very sensitive to the facial prosthetics used to turn him into Gimli, causing pain, redness and swelling
And he had to perform many of his scenes as Gimli on his knees, which was rough. But the whole shoot for the trilogy was very physically demanding for the entire cast.
Agreed. Orlando Bloom (Legolas) had just recovered from a broken back and Viggo Mortensen if I remember correctly broke his foot. If you look at Viggo fingers in the movie you can see the bruises under his finger nails. All these actors worked incredibly hard together.
@@noraelliott7304 Yup, broke a toe kicking that helmet.
It probably helped get in character as a grumpy, short tempered dwarf XD
Actually bogs and swamps really can have natural fires burning in them, that's the will-o-wisp. The gases from organic decomposition are highly flammable, so they can ignite spontaneously where they burst from the bog itself.
It was fun revisiting this movie with fresh eyes, it's so nice to see you being invested in it!
What I like about watching these is like getting to watch the cliff notes version of a movie I've already seen with someone that hasnt seen it...
27:13 My gosh not just Theodins iconic line is burned into my brain, but his distinct exact laughter and whales of agony that followed!! The actor did SO GOOD!!!!! 😂😂😂💯
I really appreciate how you guys really went for this series and are completely all in with the storytelling and how it was adapted from Tolkien's work to be put on film in such a great way. 👍
I love this movies and specially the extra stuff with Aragorn talking about how old he really is. all the stories coming together in the final movie is just great and the battles. its going to be epic.
When Aragorn yelled after kicking that helmet, it was heartfelt. Viggo broke his foot. To his credit he continued and finished the scene.
Pretty sure he only broke his toe, not his whole foot.
Toe, not the whole foot from what i remember. Still a bone was broken and the pain was real.
I wondered if this fact would be here!
@@newcreatureinchrist5087 🤣🤣🤣
@@newcreatureinchrist5087 Same. Now I'm disappointed when I don't see it.
I just want you guys to know that watching you react to these movies gives me such great joy. Lord of the Rings is such important literature and the books have influenced every piece of fantasy that has come after. The movies are equally impressive and important and watching you experience them reminds me of when I saw them the first time so many years ago. You two are great and keep up the good work
Awesome reaction! Please please please watch the extended edition of Return of the King though! You will miss a lot of very important parts if you only watch the theatrical version! 🙏🙏
I still remember 20 years ago this week, anxiously waiting for another 10 days when the movie was opening in our local theatre here in New Zealand. All the hype!! We were there! After having waited a year for this, we were so excited.
Your reaction when Gandalf returned!! perfect.
September 22 is Hobbit day since it's the birthday of Bilbo and Frodo, so every year, my sister and I do a Lord Of The Rings movie marathon and dress up and eat all 7 Hobbit meals. I'm so glad you're enjoying the story so far! The movies are, all things considered, amazing adaptations of the books, though they did change some things (I don't like how they changed Faramir's arc, but no matter, I still love him in both book and movie form).
This sounds AWESOME!
The Helms Deep scene was so difficult to film that all the crew got T Shirts with “I survived Helms Deep” written on them!! 😅
Some of the beauty of Tolkien's writing about the horn blowing and Theoden riding out:
"But even as the gate fell, and the Orcs about it yelled, preparing to charge, a murmur ... grew to a clamour of many voices crying strange news in the dawn. The Orcs upon the Rock, hearing the rumour of dismay, wavered and looked back. And then, sudden and terrible, from the tower above, the sound of the great horn of Helm rang out.
All that heard that sound trembled. Many of the Orcs cast themselves on their faces and covered their ears with their claws. Back from the Deep the echoes came, blast upon blast, as if on every cliff and hill a mighty herald stood. But on the walls men looked up, listening with wonder; for the echoes did not die. Ever the horn-blasts wound on among the hills; nearer now and louder they answered one to another, blowing fierce and free."
got goosebumps reading that passage - Tolkien is the un-rivaled master of poetic prose
I like watching these reactions cause it's nice to see young people of today discovering there's some beauty and wisdom and worth in the "old movies and books". I understand for many it's maybe before they were born and I could understand the feeling if I imagine myself watching something before my time, but damn, LOTR is a generational story, it will never grow old because it's about eternal themes - friendship, hope, keeping a promise, loyalty, love, compasion, courage. It's universal and timeless and these movie manage do to the books justice while keeping new viewers satisfied with the movies. It's not easy to do.
The tears show how much people get emotionaly invested and love the characters - that's what a good story gets you and Tolkien was a master. His wisdom IS deep and his romantic parts are not pathetic.
Watching your faces throughout all these great moments has been delightful 💖 so glad you both loved this!
Sam's speech about things worth fighting for is one of the most beautiful ever.
A wonderful reaction! Such an amazing story. More so because it is such a convoluted story with so many storylines being covered, and covered well and fully, within the one overarching story. Some movies can barely handle one storyline, but this one has so many major and minor stories going at once!
It always struck me, once my dad explained it to me when I was young, how much of the story was directly impacted by Tolkien's experiences in the British Army during World War One. Officers in the field in the Army usually had a batsman, an enlisted man who was the officer's bodyguard and right hand man. These enlisted men were often loyal to the death, ready to sacrifice themselves to protect and save the officer. That was the basis for much of the Frodo and Sam relationship. Hobbits are naturally resistant to the draw of the ring because all they want from life are the simple things. The ring has a hard time corrupting them because their dreams are all possible and easy to obtain. And Sam wants the one thing the ring can't offer: to help Mr. Frodo and get him to finish the task and get home safely.
I've seen it said that everyone needs a Sam in their life. But the truth is that we also need to be a Sam for someone in our life. Of course, you already encourage that kind of behavior. Much appreciated!
The Dead Marshes were so creepy, but they were also based on real life. Lt. Tolkien made it to the battlefield at the Battle of the Somme after the battle had ended. Heavy rains had been falling, and dozens, hundreds, of dead soldiers were still laying where they had fallen, many partially or completely covered by water, some with their vacant half-shut eyes looking towards the skies. Absolute nightmare fuel for a lifetime of bad nights, but it gave Tolkien the images for the Dead Marshes.
There is so much backstory, so much to learn beyond what the movies show. The "Making of" documentaries are amazing for the stories they add and the immense depth of the world Tolkien created.
Thank you so much for this back story about Sam's relationship to Tolkien's experience. I always thought it was a generic servant class for the gentry per Edwardian times when Tolkien was a young man. Your dad's explanation makes it more distinct. Thank him for me, since now I can tuck this footnote in a pocket of my mind.
@@samanrj0663 Yeah, it really gave me extra perspective as much on war as on the story itself.
My dad, sadly, passed away in April and I'm actually staying at his house far from my usual hometown trying to go through his things and get the house ready to sell, so he's been very much on my mind, which makes the stories he told me come to mind easily now. I know he'd be glad if he was able to give a little insight to someone else through me. Thank you. 🙂
Just a small note: Gollum's pupils are small while Smeagol's pupils are bigger, it's a very cool detail that I wanted to point out. Awesome reaction by the way.
40:35 The WETA Workshop of New Zealand went ABOVE & BEYOND with the practical effects! Be sure to check out any behind the scenes videos after the 3rd film 👏🏾🔥🎬
WETA did a phenomenal job! Of course, they had Alan Lee and John Howe's art and designs to work from, but still...the level of meticulous detail is incredible. They deserved ALL of the awards.
Faramir actually just helped Frodo and Sam in the book and is actually a really, really cool dude -- probably a bit *too* cool for movie purposes, so they basically had to give some of his qualities/personality to Aragorn (who is much more of a haughty grump in the book) instead, including resisting the temptation of the ring. It bothers me because Faramir is my all-time favourite character ever, but I guess I understand the decision from a filmmaking point of view.
It's a bit of a bummer you didn't watch the extended editions right away because I know you would have loved all the extra worldbuilding and character moments, this one in particular works the best in the extended cut IMO, especially in regards to Faramir's character. This theatrical cut doesn't really shed any light on his motivations and kinda just makes him look like a greedy and short-sighted semi-villain.
Anyway, I do hope you'll end up checking out the extended cuts and all the behind the scenes stuff eventually, and maybe even reading the book! I can admit it can take some time getting into, but once it sucks you in it's an incredible treat.
14:26 When he kicks the helmet, Vigo Mortensen actually accidentally broke his toes/foot so his scream is real lol
You two are a delight to watch! I've read these books many times and seen the films many times and nothing can be better than those first time experiences. However, watching you two watch this for your first time was fantastic. I relived my first experience again through you. So great. Thank you.
If you’re enjoying the movies this much you guys should totally check out the original books! The movies are a 9/10 the books are like a 15/10, and if audiobooks are more your jam the Lord of The Rings ones are AMAZING, Andy Serkis (Gollum) does the reading/narration/whatever ya call it and he totally does the Gollum voice and it’s awesome.
The second I started this video, I was absolutely giddy with anticipation for you to get to the reveal of Gandalf....and you did NOT disappoint!! 😁 Honestly, it got me misty. Also, there is NO doubt that the hero of this story is Sam, and you will see further proof of that in The Return of the King. Love you guys!! Great reactions!! 😊
I love the march of the ents and anything to do with Rohan tends to make me tear up. Love love love this movie. Can't wait to watch you guys experience the last one.
⚜️ I am particularly fond of Rohan and the Rohirrim, as well! ❤️
A great Liv Tyler movie is That Thing You Do. It’s a very cute movie, written and directed (and acted in, too) by Tom Hanks, about a band in the 60’s and how they deal with becoming a “teen sensation.” Would love to see you do that movie, especially because of all the music in it.
Thank you for the re-upload! These movies mean so much to me and I love seeing you guys experience these for the first time! ❤️ I don’t know if you’re ready for all that the third one has in store!
You can watch these movies 10s of times over and still not want them to end. It’s part of their beauty.
The brightness of Gandalf, yes, but also the rising sun coming over the hill, in the orcs' eyes, blinding their defense. Gandalf knew what he was doing coming from the east with the first light.
You guys are lucky to experience the return of Gandalf the way it was meant to be experienced for non-book readers! Back in 2002, the film’s marketing spoiled Gandalf’s appearance. His face is all over the posters and was even in the trailer. It was really unavoidable back in the day. I really like how you reacted there!
After you watch the 3rd one, you REALLY have to watch the extended versions because they cut a lot to get it down to the theatrical version and all the behind the scenes stuff. How all of this came together, because they filmed all three movies at once, is really fascinating to watch! Y'all seriously need to read the books as well then you can see how much Peter Jackson had to work with and how he was DETERMINED to be as true as possible.
That horse that came to aid Aragorn was the one that was Theodred that Aragorn set free. When Galadriel was talking of someone trying to steal the ring from Frodo, she was referring at the time to Boramir.
The way I *grinned* when Gandalf came back all levelled up in his fancy new clothes, and that court scene? Still my favourite. I really like the way how multifaceted every single character is. The women are badasses, but not necessarily warriors, and the men are often emotionally vulnerable, (hugging, kissing, singing, crying) which is refreshing. If I remember correctly, Tolkien based all his female characters on his wife, which is so lovely. I can't wait to see what you guys make of Return of the King.
This is a great series (books even better). You two are a joy to watch. Have been 'in the shadows' watching you music reviews for a while. If I may borrow a phrase, You almost got me when you reviews Signs - used to go see them doing school dances.
Anyway, enjoy the next movie... you'll LOVE it when Aragorn..., and sigh when Sam...., oh and when Frodo... sorry - no spoilers. ;-)
LoL - that last bit was umm - just a bit cruel - but funny...
"I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide."
Every time I hear that, I get amped. Let's go.
One of my favorite trilogy. I was so hooked on the first movie that I ended up getting my dear late Mom hooked also we went to watch the last movie together. One of my greatest memories, enjoying a shared love of a trilogy with my Mom.
YAY the re-upload was GREAT, I absolutely love your reactions. For Return please watch
the extended version x
Imagine having to wait a FULL YEAR between movies like we did back when they came out in the theater!!!
YEARS.
And stood in line to see them at midnight on the first release night…
It's really great to see you two getting into these movies, especially with Amber and the way she doesn't just _watch_ the movies, she _feels_ them and you can see it on her face. 😀 These movies were so wonderful when they came out because they finally got the _whole world_ to understand what us nerds have been loving for our entire lives. Geeks like me live and breathe this stuff every day. 😁
Gandalf’s return as a white wizard is by far the best part of all the movies
Glad you guys uploaded it because the missing 20 minutes was some of the best. Little tidbit, the scene where Aragorn kicks the orc helmet and screams, that was real. Viggo Mortensen actually broke his toe when he kicked the prop and the scream was real. They kept it in the film.
I like that you found hope in the arrival of the Elves in the films. A lot of people hate their inclusion given that it never happened in the books, but I always found that spark of hope quite nice.
I find it added to the nobility of the Elves that they didn't completely abandon Men and just sail off to Valinor.
💯. some ppl have no culture
Didn't some elves arrive, perhaps it was after the battle, to deliver to Aragorn the
flag that Arwen made for him. He flew it when he sailed to the relief of Gondor,
leading the army of the dead.
The memory is coming back a bit clearer. I think it was before the battle, but there
were only one or two elves and a bunch of Aragorn's fellow Rangers.
But those two elves were the sons of Elrond, on a vengeance quest for their mother's torture by Orcs. They share a long ago familial link with Aragorn too. The rest of the party were Rangers of the North, as many as could be gathered to ride to Aragorn's aid. They don't arrive until after Helm's Deep. We know the elves and dwarves were fighting Sauron in their homelands, but you couldn't really show that in the movies - it's only hinted at in the LotR barrative - and Jackson's choice to send in a character we already knew, with a bunch of Elven warriors was, I think, a reasonable choice to represent the support. It's dramatically effective.
The Rohan town on the hilltop, they built the exterior of many of the buildings for principal filming, then did pickups in a backlot...the hilltop buildings had to be removed after filming due to nature conservation agreements
The elves arriving at Helms Deep, a number of them are actually New Zealand military so when you see them acting in unison that's their military training 😃
I appreciate y’all enjoying the movies. Fun fact if you didn’t know, Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn) broke his toe when he kicked the helmet. That’s the scream. He just kept going with it. 15:05
If you guys decide to rewatch the movies ever you should try the extended versions! 😁
It will be fascinating to see you both react to Return of the King. Many of your questions will be answered in this amazing movie.
When you have the time, you should watch the extended editions. They make the overall story much better and help fill in some areas that are incomplete. The extended editions average about 4 hours each so it's like getting an additional movie!
Then there is original material, the book Lord of the Rings. As far as I am concerned, no better story has ever been written. It is so worth to find the time to read this masterpiece that J.R.R. Tolkien wrote. And it is only a part of what Tolkien created, essentially the tip of the iceberg.
I caught this when it first dropped, this series gets better with every installment. Return of the King is a masterpiece.
Oh, you kids don't know how good you have it. My generation had to wait a year in between each film and two years between the Star Wars trilogy (ep.4-6). At 69 I have seen all the movies you watch and have heard most of the songs you play. It's your wonderful reactions that I enjoy. Fun fact: John Rhys-Davies, who played the dwarf Gimli, is 6'1" and was the tallest actor of the 9 that made up the Fellowship of the Ring. The actors who played the Hobbits still get together at restaurants and sometimes Orlando Bloom (Legolas) joins them. I first knew of Orlando as Will Turner in the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. That's another franchise you must watch.
After the closing credits in Fellowship of the Ring, many of us had to wait a year to see Galdalf fight the Balrog in The Two Towers
yeah and another year for ROTK. I saw hundreds of movies in the Cinema but none came close to expieriencing these movies as a kid in Cinema. The people were so blown away, you could see it in their faces and conversations as we were walking out of the Cinema.
Nothing ever came close to the epicness of ROTK.
I love the scene with Gandalf's return so much because it shows you he is something a lot more than human. You probably already had loads of people tell you he's actually an angelic spirit, known as a Maia, in human form, but that scene really shows it. Like you'd imagine seeing an angel.
BTW he actually did die, or rather his human body died and his angelic spirit was going to return to God in the heavens, but he was sent back with a new body, hence Gandalf the White because he was the only one of the 5 of his kind who stayed true to his quest. Yes, there actually is a God in Tolkien's work, although he's never mentioned by name which is Eru Illuvatar. When Gandalf was referring to "other forces than the will of evil" and Frodo being meant to find the Ring he was probably talking about Illuvatar.
I love the look Thèoden gives Grima after becoming fully aware again. That stare was death.
Rohan may be my favorite location and subplot in the trilogy. Theoden realizing his son has died, and his anguish upon visiting the tomb... Bernard Hill was phenomenal in that role.
@@Johnny_Socko I find it curious that he should criticize the new show, calling it a money grab. I suppose one could see it like that, it's to be expected when the Tolkien family sold off the rights.
@@ashleywilliams1060 The general consensus is that The Rings of Power just isn't well written. If Mr. Hill shares that view I can see where he's coming from. (I also share that view FWIW.)
@@danieldickson8591 thanks for the reply. I don't watch the show, but I could see people's excitement in it, and disappointment as it could never replicate the books or movie trilogy.
@@ashleywilliams1060 As far as "replicating," it doesn't even really try. It appears to be a case of, "We can do better than that Tolkien guy. We're gonna make it MODERN!"
I mentioned on the last upload that you guys should watch (or find) the additional scene with Faramir and Boromir from the Extended Edition. It shows what Faramir’s motivations were and why he “needed” to take Frodo and Sam to Gondor.