GEN 3.5 AND 3 FRIESIAN GAIT COMPARISONS (2024) // SakuraStallion
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Back when the first Jorvik Friesian videos were released, I made a video comparing their gaits to real life horses! Now we have two gen 3 horses to compare to, so let's get right into it!
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Seeing the animations compared to a real horse gives me much more appreciation for the team who worked on them! The gaits look very much inspired by real life friesians. The only animation that still looks off, imo, is the canter. I understand that the team was aiming for a dramatic, flashy gait, but I think the canter is a bit too much.
its exactly what i think !! i agree that the canter looks like too much "effort"
I think it's up to personal taste, but I like it
@@Jahgodahere Have you ever seen a real frisian horse? To say the gaits look lol real horses’ ones is false.
@@Alphabetwillbet I'm just comparing to the video of the real life horse shown in this video. It doesn't look exactly the same but it does look inspired in my opinion!
literally same opinion, the canter in the jorvik friesian was quite good already
Part of the problem with the new one is that there's no WEIGHT to the movement. They need to ground the stride properly, and mimic the push-off inherent in the breed. Friesians were bred to be carriage horses. They have a distinct movement because of it, and you can see it in another breed as well: the Lippizaner, which was also a carriage breed. They needed that 'rear drive', that push forward from the hindquarters to pull in harness well. And THAT'S what this Friesian is missing. (Frankly, all of them are missing it, but it's most notable in the new one.) Personally, I'm not particularly pleased that they went with the modern movement for them rather than the classic/baroque (think the difference between current KFPS inspections and the handsome lad from Ladyhawke), but I can understand why they picked it. It's where the breed is at right now, it's recognizable, and it's flashy. They've got the basic mechanics of the gaits down; now they just need to smooth out the reaches/extension and ground the movement.
because it isn’t finished omfg
@@cheese_cake_factoryplease shut up the gaits r finished its just some animations left like the pirouette lmfao
@@pianocover8442 the trailer hasn’t even come out yet, saying that it’s not finished
@@cheese_cake_factory The problem is that to SSO, this may actually BE the finished product. How many horses have we gotten lately that have been clunky, or have poor conformation/animation, or what have you? Do you recall what happened with the Lipizzaner? It was presented as finished, but enough people spoke up that SSO realized that their 'finished' product was not, in fact, truly finished and ready for release. Change does not happen without someone speaking up. The difference here is that, rather than me just complaining that it's not finished, I offered constructive criticism on WHAT was wrong and would need fixed. If SSO is smart (though with some of their decisions for the last little bit, I don't have high hopes), they go through the comments of videos like this to see what people are saying, for good OR bad. By putting up a comment like mine, it gives the opportunity for them to see the fix offered...and then implement it.
@@cheese_cake_factory aren't they releasing them in 3 days? 😭
It moves very much like a real friesian, although I feel like in many gaits the knees bend too much
i hate how gummy the knees look they can’t get it right 😭
like balloon animal knees that get folded
Honestly I think it looks fairly accurate, especially for a game! You can tell the team was trying hard to make it realistic. To me the canter seemed a little off but that was it!
So much better than the old one, and moves very much like a real friesian
Yeah but it’s so ugly and the legs are just.. eughhh
One thing I notice is how far forward the old friesian was. It looks like it is about to topple forward 😂
I personally would have liked a lower head with the friesians as I think the head is a bit too high which throws off some of it's balance but it's just my opinion ^^ Still proud of the fact that SSO took the time out to properly do the gaits.
The only thing I don’t like is the lack of head movement in the majority of the gaits
The new one has like closer animations to the real life friesian that’s why I kinda respect it more now
Honestly didn't really want them until I saw the irl comparison. I now DEFINITELY NEED one
The new one has the canter and faster gaits right, the old one has the trot and the walk. They still can't get it perfectly right. Gen 2 is honestly the best one with the movement just the model is dated.
or maybe because it isn’t finished ??
@@cheese_cake_factoryyappity yap yap yall always say the same thing the gaits r obv finished the only things that arent finished r The pirouette and the jumps
@@pianocover8442 the trailer hasn’t even come out ?? either their fixing them or adjusting
Seeing the comparison with irl friesian horses is amazing!! It really reminds us gow horses move irl and how close they actually are to the real deal!! I feel like i can sometimes be picky about animations but really theyre not that bad at all
I actually love them, of course many players think they don't look good or something, maybe you guys have doubts about the legs or the hoof feathering, but trust me; These Friesians are modeled just like REAL Friesians! Appreciate the work SSO !!
I personally like the older one better because it looks more build and the legs don't look like sticks. Plus I like the shiny effect on the coat. Give the 3.0 the 3.5 mane and tail, then replace the gallop with the 3.5 galop animations and it will be perfect.
I personally thought the older one looked a bit too stumpy, like a tank. So to me, the newer one looks a lot more elegant. It's funny how differently we see things :D
@@siljasyrjamaki7504There is the old baroque type and there is the modern sporty type. (It' s the same with the Haflingers.) Both exist and many people like the thinner ones more. But on the other hand there might be many people (including me) seeing the Frisian as THAT baroque horse and what sso did is definitely not baroque.
I swear everyone seems to *always* hate on anything sso comes out with, personally, I think they look great! (not targeting this comment section it’s acc rlly nice in here❤)
I’m so glad someone did this bc I seen so many ppl complaining who’ve clearly never seen an actual Friesian before lol. They actually did a pretty good job on this breed. The canter is maybe a little over exaggerated but for a dressage horse it’s pretty close. The trot is good but the speed along the ground is a little slow which makes it seem off
Awesome! Thanks for showing us ❤😁
I like the new Friesians but the one thing bugging me is how everyone is calling them gen 3.5 they are gen 3 since they are not an updated version of the Jorvik Friesian but its finally nice to see a horse with scary accurate gaits in SSO
I don’t know why no one ever mentions how far back set the eyes on the gen 3.5 friesian are, like it looks so off lol
I feel like the gen 3 still looks better than the gen 3.5. Like if I had been shown neither of them and I was picking just off this side by side comparison. The gen 3 definitely moves better and looks better in the gaits. The gen 3 should have just been adjusted for the gen 3.5. Like SSO could have just fixed the gen 3 face and eyes for a more realistic/ regal look, fixed the hair styles to look better, and the face animations and it would have looked perfect for an update. To me this 3.5 has way too high of a neck carriage, and looks to much like the Dutch warmblood/ sell Francis, which personally I didn’t buy either of those breeds in game because of the unnatural head carriage. Instead I bought like 4 Ardennes because I like natural neck position looking horses, which the gen 3 fresian actually had done really well, aside from its cartoony eyes/face. To me this 3.5 version is a massive downgrade sadly. :(
I agree they did their head carriage dirty, especially in the canter
The fact it looks fairly accurate/realistic is so nice!! It feels like the team really took their efforts with makig the fresians, and i'll never understand why in some videos and instagram posts people kept being annoying over the gaits looking "unrealistic", sure a few of them look a little janky, but that's gonna happend with everything (not everything needs to be perfect), and they overall look fairly realistic when compared with a real horse (wich i'm assuming the people complaining didn't do)
Omg I haven’t seen an SSO video in so long. Started playing in 2013 and was on and off till about 2018. Looks like things have changed a lot!
thanks for thr comparison and giving credits to cc creations :)
I really like them! I have worked with a friesian once, sonce then I am in LOOOOOOOVE with these horses, so much it hurts. And when I saw the animation leaks, I lost it. Sure, the canter looks more like a Friesian that was trained specifically for dressage, but I love SSD so I am hoping I might find a dressage team that makes them the team horse so I can join 👀
More people need to see this video! Although I'm still not a fan of the regular trot (even irl- I prefer friesians with a little less knee action), I love the extended trot. The extended canter in the model I knew was nearly a 1:1 for the extended friesian canter from a visual standpoint, and the walk, but it was nice to see the gallop too!
The new Friesian turned out so gorgeous!
The only gait that looks better than the old one is the gallop, the only thing “upgraded” about it this is the textures
Seeing the animations it seems that Star Stable finally had a look at an actual real life horse to make these animations because most horses walk as if the people making the animations never saw a horse once in their life and I just can't applaud such a big company like Star Stable for such a futile thing.
The animators are working on a horse game why do the horses not move like horses do in real life? Sims 4 got it better but EA is bigger so maybe that's why the animators were able to pull up TH-cam and look at videos of horses moving.
PikPok a from, what I found, barely known company even does motion capture, the game that is mostly known made by them is Rival Stars: Horse Racing which can be played for almost completely free on the phone. The almost is because a few game features like Teams I think are hidden behind a paywall but everything that matters is accessible.
Like common Star Stable you need to step up your work by a lot.
Yes this is a rant about how unhappy I am with SSO which I didn't have to write out here nor does anyone want my opinion but just how little does Star Stable do when other companies do so much better when horses aren't even the main thing of the game. Yes I did also hint at the masterpiece of Red Dead Redemption 2 having gorgeous, motion captured horse animations with very nice coat colours while the game is about a gang in the Wild West going apart.
The gallop has okay head movement, but I feel there is a lack of head movement in all the other gaits compared to irl..if they could only have a bit more bobbing motion and/or lowered head a bit during riding. Otherwise an improvement over-all.
Personally I don’t see much wrong with the Jorvik friesian, I don’t think we needed an updated one. It’s funny tho how many people were making fun of the gen 3 Friesian and now they don’t like the new one either lol
Jorvik Friesian was terrible, especially if you love Friesians and want to ride one constantly as your main horse. We definitely needed an updated one. We also need an updated Norwegian Fjord.
@@Iceblinkwolfsong omg yes the fjord needs a update asap as well as the Hanoverian
@@Iceblinkwolfsongthe new friesieans are terrible, the head carriage, the gaits, the legs everything looks SO FRICKIN UGLY and stiff, the legs are sticks and they snap unlike the jorvik friesieans
@@ssofiend Both are objectively bad in terms of animations… I recall the Jorvik Frisian has its hind limbs running into its belly or some similar bugs, as well as a hyperactive twitchy behavior when not moving, weird gaits and (as the new one) no weight apparent in its movement. There is definitely a bit of improvement with this one but not much.
@@ssofiend I have to agree especially with the stick legs BUT they are a major improvement from the gen 3 and I’ll take it until sso releases gen 4 or smth
It's not gen 3.5, it's just gen 3, the Jorvik Friesian and the regular Friesian are supposed to be two separate breeds :) Nice video!
Look at how much better the new friesian tail is! its not one big mat!
i honestly think sso did a pretty good job on this horse. however, it looks pretty stiff in the neck and looks a bit hollow in the back. hoping they'll fix that before release :,D
The fact that gen 3 friesians trot, canter is more elegant than 3,5 💀
The only problem is the knees when he trots and during canter.
i cant even with how high the eyes are on the 3.5 one 😭😭
ALSO the 3.5 has the SAME gallop animation as the gen 2 one.... uh...
Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed...
Thats because its only gen 3..and replacing then gen 2 frezzy. The jorvik friesian was just what sso made up. Making their own breed not a real horse breed. Since this newer one is based irl and the gen 2 was too its actually replacing then gen 2 model which makes it gen 3. Which i can see why the animation look like gen 2
@itzfuzzy1062 star stable didn't make up their own breed, it was announced as a friesian remake. the only reason why they called it jorvik friesian was so they could add more colors. sso said this on their Instagram.
This newer version IS MEANT to be a remake of the g3 ones, as sso stated multiple times since the current friesian horse has so many bugs they apparently "can't" fix it.
@@itzfuzzy1062 No, it wasn’t a “made up” horse breed. It was presented as a frisian and intended to be a frisian. They put “Jorvik” in front because they knew they fucked up and then they came up with the crappy excuse of “it’s a separate breed”.
The trot bugs me but i love everything else, i own a fri irl :)
I liked the gen 3 mane (even though it looked a bit unnatural when galloping) so I'm a bit sad to see gen 3.5 being so much shorter. But thank goodness, they fixed/removed the CHONKY tail xD
The 3.5 gen's movements are smoother but I'm undecided about the hooves. I get that they've got hairs irl and all but they look so big compared to the rest of the legs on the 3.5 gen x: Or is that just me? ^^'
Overall though, I like the glow-up! :D
I’m not the biggest fan of just the canter is the extended looks great
i really like the new Friesian but here are some things that i like/dislike about the new horse's gaits.
starting with the walk, I love how accurate it is to the irl breed, the animations are smooth and over all great!
the trot, also insanely (maybe slightly exaggerated 😅) accurate, i like how floaty it looks, like you can almost feel how smooth the trot is.
the canter, I'm kinda disappointed with how it turned out, the irl breed has a much stronger look in how it carries itself, the in game horse looks like its carrying itself too high, and the canter is too uphill for my liking. the movement over all looks too choppy and bouncy. oh and also, the legs are really over bent (idk how to explain it)
the slow gallop. i dont have much to say about it bc i dont think there are many things wrong with it, but the only thing i would say is the head is held quite high and idk how to feel abt it.
the gallop, I absolutely LOVE the neck movement and your can really see the power in the gallop .
I like the trot of the old friesian more, and the animations of the new Friesians could be a bit smoother, but I have no complaints. Other than the front legs come up way too close to the chest in the gaits.
The new are actually better , and i hope there are going to do a lot of colors like the friesian sport gen 2 becose i think for me the new model is perfect .
oh and right after I bought a mustang too 😭 my broke ahh isn’t getting started coins or star rider from anything but codes 😔
One thing i dont like is that pirrouette and rear. Trot is too fast for actual speed of horse but its okay. But rear and pirroutte is weird. Pirrouette is so fast and like weird jumping and the rear is stiff. But i love them
it technically isn't a gen 3.5 since it is replacing the gen 2 friesian...Sso only made on the Jorvik Frezzy they just made up that breed because it is not a real breed and what sso made, Your not going to see a jorvik friesian Irl. So this newer one is just replacing the gen 2. and is not a remake of a Jorvik Friesian only gen 2
generations arent about looks anyway, they are about tech used to animate and code the horses
The only thing that I see is on the real friesians when they’re doing the gallop, it doesn’t move its head as much
Do I love him? Yes. Do I want it? Yes. Do I get it? Yes. Will this be my favourite horse in the sso? Yes.
Ngl I like the jorvik Frisians better, SSO is just too realistic and it’s supposed to be a NON-Life like game, I think I will like all of the gen 3 horses more than the 3.5/4 horses.
If they at least fixed the jorvik friesians or even discounted them for how bugged they are but they will be the same price as the new ones :/ they were around for 4 years and they cant fix their leg or the animations? They probs made these for people to waste money bcs of their financial situation :,)
gen 4 isn’t a thing, gen 3.5 is only used on this new friesian to differentiate it from the old one. i assume horses released after it will be labelled gen 3, and any remakes of older gen 3’s will be 3.5
@@yarishu3525 Yes I do agree if they fixed the bugs and fitted them with the new tack they would be more worth the money. Even if SSO lowered the prices of SC people would still complain abt smth, to be honest if people are in a financial crisis they shouldn’t be buying stuff for games anyway.
@@asnytex Gen 4 horses have been being talked abt for a while, they will definitely be a thing, this friesian is a 3.5. In 2025 we should start seeing gen 3.5/4 horses. (example: 2021 gen 3 Arabian, New arab would be gen 3.5 or 4) my guess is they would be 3.5 however there was never a 2.5 so idk.
@@EquineLover83 Has SSO ever confirmed gen 4, though? My interpretation was that gen 3 is final, and gen 4 was for the breeding mechanic they hoped to implement. At least, that’s what I’ve seen.
This version of the fresian looks a thousand times better one of them will def be coming home
It’s 3 gen fresian… literally says so on the site
They're identical 😅
Gen 3 has a harder steps and the gen 3.5 has smoother steps. Definitely has a lot more effort put into those gaits.
Would it kill them to make a relaxed looking friesian 😅
Id preffer the new friesian to have the same animations as the jorvik friesian- exept the gallop of course.
it looks good compared to real life except the trot but i guess i just have a problem with friesian horses in general lol
My biggest problem is the hindquarters are SO much lower than the chest, like they are failing to carry their bodies properly. Hate to say it but it’s really inaccurate and ugly.
i realy love the new one (ps: this is NOT a gen3.5, this is just a new gen3 :)
The gallop would look 100% if it had a little more power and bounce but just my opinion1!
I don’t like the trot and the canter it’s just a little too much 😭
it looks too skinny imo, i feel like irl friesians are more buff
The nailed it!!
omg the eye placement is so off 💀💀💀
It's not 3.5, it's just 3.0. It's a friesian 3.0 and not JORVIK friesian. Hope this helps!
wait so sso made 2 gen3 of this horse? why?
this shows soo well how frickin bad the Jorvik Friesian really is 😂 What a disaster
I love the animations but i just dont rlly like the trot since it looks slow but in real life its faster but okay. And tbh i think that the clothes that we got spoilers from are gonna be uploaded with the friesian. BUT TY SSO
Still the 2nd generation is better. The way how they walk, trot is more "alive". Their whole body is moving, not only lengs like in 3.5 generation
im so glad they kept the coats a bit more true to the breed rather than making another leopard appaloosa or pinto
tbh idc what anyone else says i need to say i love the new ones so much more better than the old ones. the old ones were so ASS
Guys, be grateful for once. Star stable isn't a realistic game
Yes but they said that they will do friesians better quality and then they do this. That canter is like gen 1