Bon and Shamanism
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- In this interview, Geshe Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche discusses the role of shamanism in the Tibetan Bon and Himalayan spiritual traditions. Topics include:
• Himalayan shamanism-what role does it play today? (0.31)
• What is the role of shamanism in the Bon tradition? (3:41)
• What is the value of life according to the Bon tradition? (9:18)
• Why do people practice shamanism in the West today? (11:22)
Video by Guido Ferrari, recorded in 2014 in Maria Alm, Austria.
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Bon is regarded as the oldest spiritual tradition of Tibet. Its unbroken lineage is traced back thousands of years before the birth of the historical buddha Shakyamuni, to the legendary buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche.
Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche is a prominent Bon Buddhist master and founding spiritual director of Ligmincha International, www.ligmincha.org. His books include the best-selling The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep; Tibetan Sound Healing; Wonders of the Natural Mind; Healing With Form, Energy and Light; Unbounded Wholeness (with Anne Carolyn Klein); Awakening the Sacred Body; Tibetan Yogas of Body, Speech and Mind; Awakening the Luminous Mind; and The True Source of Healing.
To learn more about Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche and the Bon Buddhist tradition of Tibet, visit www.ligmincha....
For advance notice of future online and in-person teachings with Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche, subscribe to Ligmincha's free e-newsletter at voiceofclearlig...
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I am enchanted by the spirituality of Tibetan people. I've engaged in several studies in an unofficial capacity.
We in Nepal HAVE Bon Lam in Gurung tribe of Gurkha and few other palces as well..The Pre Buddhist ones
do they practice Tantra or Inner Yoga of the subtle body?
@@1995yuda yoga is Indian. Tantra is tibet. Nepal don't follow both originally.we just worship nature n live simple life. No need of religion for our healers.
@@NepalShaman I'm sorry my friend but this is not true. Yoga is not exclusive to India, it was practiced across the ancient world under different names. There is also Indian Tantra that originated from North Kashmir, not just in Tibet, two different forms of Tantra. Also Tantra can be found in other cultures under different names. Shamanism is present in all ancient cultures.
Sir, you are talking about the Buddhist Bon religion. Actually Bon is just the nature. It's the religion of nature. Here Nature projects itself as the God. The Buddhist Bon religion came after many years. Before the unification of Tibet there was no Buddhist Bon religion. In old Bon religion people worship Nature. But Tibetan Buddhist Bon religion they worship the Guru not Nature. They worship humane being not Nature. Old Bon religion is just the projection of Nature worship.
Interesting. The world is God?
“Empty vessels make the most noise” 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 🤣🤭
You have to know the difference first on ancient Bon vs yungdrung bon. Mr Gurung
Almost like Taoism
yes you are right i belong to most remote part of HIMACHAL INDIA and i m 100% agreed to your explanation…
Thank you brother! Bön seems to be so powerful and beautiful. Nice interview
For some reason I have been drawn to learning more about the Bon tradition in Tibet lately, mainly through watching TH-cam videos. I'm grateful to know that the tradition and practices survive. What this Bon master says is so true and it only makes me more curious to learn about Bon and Tibetan Buddhist traditions as well. What he says about human values and how we are lost, confusing what we need with what we want resonates with me. Thank you for this . . .
karmic connection
@@MoMoMu274 Animistic with Shinto, for sure. Not so much with Zen.
@@MoMoMu274 I'm sorry. Please enlighten me (no pun intended!) But how has Zen "integrated" Shinto? As far as I know, Zen has nothing to do with animism. In fact, it's the opposite. But maybe I've missed something . . .
@@stonew1927i would have said that shingon would be closer to shinto as it is a japanese variant of vajrayana
Very lucky to listen to this amazing interview.Thanks
so Grateful & Thankful to this truly amazing and clear teacher and the worldwide sangha _/\_ 'for the benefit of all'
Wonderful talk. I'm reading Mother of Knowlege The Enlightenment of Ye-shes mTsho-rygal (I have no idea how to pronounce any of the names 😂😂). At least I know how to pronounce Bon.
Its best to learn true Shamanism from an authentic traditional Shaman who was trained directly by his own Shaman elders..
So you mean he is not qualified enough?
@@RaginYak he isnt shaman.bon lam r not shaman , they r nature worshipper but they r called by other name...he is elder though of his practises
@@NepalShaman You don't teach me what is shamanism of what is not.
He is a trained Bon shaman
@nepalshaman 🤣🤣🤣do a little research on bon and the yungdrung bon. Thank me later before you embarrass yourself further more 🤦♂️
Tashi Delek. Thank you for uploading this.
I love it , actual nature of truth of being human. Excellent. thank you
very refreshing to hear a buddhist talk about how essential
nature is to our spiritual practice. I think modern day Buddhism has lost this
connection to nature, seeing it as something seperate from their Dharma.
But this talk shows how it actually the essence to the secret practices of Buddhism (Tantra).
He isn't Buddhist. He is bon. Get Ur fact right
So, why do they call it Tibetan Bön Buddhism? Bishnu, you may want to check out their website.
@@ml7346 dudu bon is tribal tibetian culture .they sacrific animals. bon isnt buddhism.research more plz
Nepal Shamanic Views And Spiritual Practices Nepal is Hindu country . So shut ur key board.
Modern Buddhists do not represent Buddhism. Modern christians do not represent Christianity. Etc. This is the way of "progress".
Raw nature, more direct access to the truth, yes, this is my awareness.
Seeking connection, with shamanism, yes, this is part of it. For myself, it has been seeking healing, with the tools of shamanism able to restore broken and lost aspects of the soul. A connection with my ancestral roots, to heal and shift this, in that I am part indigenous and I experience the cosmos of having a breath of authenticity, being true and honest with the body one is inhabiting and its evolutionary story, to breath in this and bring healing to these ancestors in my bones, my DNA, and these connections. It is a very creative form of spiritual connection and is closest to the source for me and not attached to the structures, the doors, the forms that have been constructed by humans after a master teacher has walked on the planet. Source, it seems like a direct access, more clear access to the source of the wellspring of living without the politics and strife inherent within the structure, the form, of spiritual/religious traditions, it removes all human muck that may block or distort or misguided or manipulate or deceive using these forms for other than their original intent. As an artist, a movement artist once, there was a spark of creativity in a form called improvisation which is being utterly honest and authentic with what comes up. The process of make the dance may draw from the improvisations, and the power of the experience is lost in translation, and one always returns to the source. For spiritual traditions, I sense for myself an impression that there have been things lost in translation so to speak with knowledge passed along through human to human, and shamanism is a way of connecting directly to source and integrates a creative component. Creativity I have not found in most spiritual forms and creativity in my personal path seems essential to manifesting what it is the form communicates is the goal or intention.
Dude, there are some magical things happening in Tibet...
Not just Tibet. Reincarnated lamas are reincarnating in the West now
Amazing :} thank you so much for this interview ~;~
Beautiful thank you
Thank you Rinpoche la
Merci pour cette analyse importante et éclairante
Große Geist ist Liebe. Wer Liebt der wird unsterblich.
I love buudhijam god bless you
Thank you
ive subscribed this only for that man
Excellent presentation. Note Bon is pronounced more like Burn.
Charles Harpole - 'Bö hn'
Can you please, dear Master, or someone advise me please? Why, are colors of light, representing water and space, switched between Bon and Dzogchen as it's practiced in Chogyal Namkhai Norbu's community (for example). Color of space in Bon is white, while in Dz(NN) it's blue, while white is water there.
I am fascinated with Bon, and Chogyal N. Norbu had profoud respect for it, so there must be Good reason he still kept "his" colors.. and vice versa.
Also root sillable for earth is I think Kham in Bon, while it can be Lam somewhere outside Bon. I would expect it's from the same, genuine experience, so why it's different. Probably there is (i hope) emphasis on different aspect of the element? Many Thanks for answers
beautiful interview. thanks! didn't know anything about Bon
🙏Simple and profound. Thanks.🙏
yes ... This is a correct vision to be connected more with ""the Source "" of our being with the ""Nature "" of
""All WHAT IS in LIFE "" , we are looking for more " True " life , what is good and healthy for every body, every way of LIFE , for more Respect .... thank YOU !
Thank you for the simplicity
wonderful. Thank you
When you practice Bon you trascend dualistic mind to clear mind
Muchas Gracias
Good vid....Love your stuff kick on love it
Excellent, thanks 🌼🙏🏻
Very nice video, thank you
Gracias 🙂.
Is it possible that people are confusing shamanism with pantheism?
Shamans, siberian and mongolian specifically, are polytheists. But, if to them, the world is full of spirits, then that view is also pantheistic; and spirits being an expression and mediums of the Divine, it is also panentheistic. Words gets in the way sometimes and can create confusion.
Beautiful
The British rockgroup URIAH HEEP wrote the song RAINBOW DEMON.It's fascinating music..great singer..
I want to understand w h e n ,w h y and h o w colours can turn into demonic entities...and whether that's the reason why Zen Buddhists only wear black and brown...
I wonder if this is an origination of where Taoism comes from or vice versa. 🤨😮
This guys English is pretty good
The Collective Consciousness
So if you work with these three practices you can attain a rainbow body?
Bon is destructive! Ultimately. However life is this and also creative. Depending on your lessons in life. It works in all of us . Regardless whether we see it or not .
Why do you say Bon is destructive? It isn't for us practitioners.
Actually Bon Shamanism is just different from Bon or Buddhism. In Bon religion and Buddhism they worship Guru ! In Bon Shamanism they don't worship Guru or any human being as such !
🤣🤣🤣shaman was originated in Nepal just like Buddha
What gurung knows about tibet history ?
The problem with Bon practitioners is that they are as impoverished as other Tibetans.The danger is that they get (ab)used by wealthy people (in the west there are plenty of those) who ask them to do black magic for the s e l f i s h purposes of the person who pays them....as Bon magicians are v e r y skilled in both white a n d black magic,they will have to make a choice at that point .....
I was interested in the singing bowl stuff, but the animal sacrifice bothers me, even past tense. Not that it doesn't exist in many other religions...
I like the Native American idea, where you give thanks to the animal that died so you could eat, and I never heard of any AmerIndians (American Indians, differing from Indians from India) killing animals because they sickly like to watch them suffer for a warped person's entertainment. That they don't even bother to eat.
Tibetan Buddhists supposedly conducted human sacrifice at some point. If animal sacrifice was practice in Bon, human sacrifice probably was as well.
Tonpa Shenrab taught people how to make torma offerings instead of sacrificing living beings. Bon and Buddhism are against killing.
The Old Testament is full of animal sacrifices. In the time of Jesus burnt offerings were very common.
BÖHM.
They need to stop Buddhism(India/Nepal root) and go back to pure shamanism (central/northeast asian root)
Both have something common
Disagreed , Bon and Bhuddhism are just different path of same destiny. Nothing should be stopped
@@kshitijkumar9107 buddhist read books. bon dont need books yet they can chant more then 100s of books automatially through spritis possessions. not same
@@NepalShaman true i agree with you. i am a bon believer and hinduism as well to some extent.
Ancient time bon religion part was hindunism
modern day hinduism is a combination of all tribal beliefs of india and neighboring places plus the beliefs vedic people who inroduced caste system.
Bon dates back about 18,000 years from an area northwest of Tibet. That culture influenced Tibet, India, and others.
@@pchemist true
hinduism isnt any thing because its full of shit they say rig ved is of 1500 bc but the oldest specimen of it is just 1464 ad hindu isnt even as old as islam and they say its the oldest religion😂😂
Steckt viel Wahrheit drin aber nicht viel mehr
Why is this man’s face so big?
Never met a Tibetan?