We Bought a Rare 100+ MPH Vintage Racing Go Kart (for $100!!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ม.ค. 2020
- We revive an old go kart with a Tillotson 212cc engine! This old racing go kart is special, because the rider literally lays down in the seat, and is surrounded by aluminum fuel(?) tanks on either side. We were once told that these karts were built in the 1970s for large, oval NASCAR tracks and were driven in excess of 100MPH (in the 70s!!). We're planning on taking it to a proper paved track for a race against our other vintage racing go karts!
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That seating position is intended for the track, I nick name it *The Salad Shooter* for it's ability to fill your shorts with leaves
Lol
You sure that was leaves? Sure was brown
Agreed
Thanks for your support throughout the years to get us to 500 videos!! If you know the year make and model of this kart please let us know!
Idk if you remember me but I ask what was wrong with my Briggs flathead and Ike said fuel starvation and idk the best way to fix that other then by a new carburetor
@@hoosiersquad that depends on what's causing it. If you just need more fuel, you can drill the jets a size over. If it's not drawing properly it could be a leaky exhaust valve.
Keegan Johnson idk what’s going on but what’s the best way to find out
No......thank you guys.
Congrats
John: 'Well that was fun.'
Isaac; 'Was it?'
John: 'No.'
It looks painful but that's what makes go carts fun. Its freaking awesome.
Brad Hogg true
@@bradhogg3297 Bet it feels freaking quick, no matter how fast you're going that near the ground.
This my dads
That vintage, it probably had a Mac101, aka a Mccollough. Beastly little 2-stroke (12hp! Iirc) when it got on the pipe. I'd slow down just to feel the charge when it came 'on'.
That's an enduro-style frame, btw. Side tanks and the laydown seat are the telltale characteristics of a 70's era enduro racing kart.
yep, enduro's eventually were all kt100's, parilla's, and comet two-strokes, but the earlier ones sported built mcCollough's and all the other early chainsaw manufacturers......sweet cart
Parilla or komet is a italian-american motor buider they also made airplane motors and have won many championships with these motors they was founded in 1968. When i was a kid we used one of there 25 HP airplane motors on our kart it would top out at about 125mph . I'm not proud of this but we used to outrun the cops in our kart when we was kids in the late 70's early 80's the could never catch us we would get so far in front of them they couldn't see us anymore and drive the kart right up under the porch or the barn and other times just pull up beside a building or car so much fun. WARNING DO NOT DO THE HAIRBRAIN THINGS THAT I DO
James Kuhlman nice! Thank you.
@@bustinyanutz4195 yeah, as 13 yr olds in the early eighties my friend n I bought an "old" 80cc mcCollough and an 70's racing frame used for cheap......super cool fun, we just didn't have access to a great track back then, so it was always tearing up the school parking lot....lol
I had one of those Mac 2stock engine with duel carbs on a homemade cart with airplane tires, that sucker was fast. The throttle stuck one day and I wiped out 100 ft of 2 rows of sweet corn before it stopped. (Had scrub brakes and no kill switch) I decided it needed a kill switch. Lol
back in the 70's a older neighbor of mine raced carts his cart was similar to your's but he ran twin 2 cycle engines .he told me it had a top speed of 120 because that's when he would chicken out but it was a lot faster than that . I could never get him to let me ride it but we took it out to a old unfinished sub division back in the day to tear up the unfinished streets and it was as he said scary fast even just to watch
Wat allows it to go so fast? Gears? Carb jet?
@@kinggg313 normally gearing and with a 2 stroke they’ll just rev to anything so I’m sure it has to do with that too. Atleast from my experience of speeding up lawnmowers from gearing (or really just pulleys)
It's a motorized creeper.
OMG lmaf lol good one
Put reverse on it, and you might have an idea 😂
I was thinking a coffin.... that could be ur next rat rod. 🤯
THE COFFIN CART
They made a coffin kart already.
Haha good one
Endurance kart or Enduro. Some had body work, some two engines. I had a 1972 Hornet. Some races 24hrs, hence the large fuel supply.
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@@slamboy66 weird video bro
@@DeadguyAi thnx
Amazing
4 yrs.? Holy crap, I’ve been watching you guys at least that long?
I need a life.
you need a go kart or another
The 500th upload calls for a celebration, and a true 500cc build! Or maybe a pair of 250cc’s - one for each back wheel! Keep doing what you do!
They used to race these on superspeedways like Daytona. Lay down seat for the aerodynamics
They still race Laydown Enduro Karts at Daytona, last week of December every year.
I remember being 6 or 7 staring at a picture of one of these 'crazy' machines in my dad's book when he was kart racing and thinking what a cool and radical setup it was!
Yeah, they still do. Raced my enduro kart at daytona last month for the 45th running anniversary of the race, pretty wild stuff
.....and pavement.
Been on this channel since 10k subs. stuck around cause I knew y'all had potential. I just wanted to say y'all have come a very long way. Proud of y'all.
Whoot!!! Happy 500!! Lookin' forward to the next 500.
Cool oldschool lay-down cart. That thing is absolutely a dedicated track machine.
My dad raced cars and karts back in the 60's when I was just knee-high to a grasshopper. They as Mr. Kuhlman notes below, ran Macs. The story my dad had told me is he was friends with Mickey Rupp and they had clocked him at 120mph running twin Macs on one of Rupp's tracks. But ya that powerband of the 2 cycle made them things a real handful! Great video!
John got his salad tossed by a go cart. 🤭
Hahahahahaha it's karma for that time he rammed the mini bike up that dudes butt
i just laughed so hard 😂
Logan Mason 🤣🤣
I remember seeing one in like that in 1968 . It had two 2 stroke engines .
Dennis L.... All the "lay down" Enduro Karts were "side winders".... with One engine. There were some "semi lay down" enduro karts that did have two engines... but most were single engine "sidewinders".
He’ll yeah man I’ve been watching carsandcameras since before Taylor’s 50 dollar go cart
Michael ward me to
That was my first video
Back in the middle 1960s the first time I drove a gocart much like that . A racing cart said to go 75 mph . I am sure it would run at least 50 because the road we ran it on the speed limit was 50 and I had no problem out running the log trucks on that road. In hind sight my parents were probably trying to reduce the family size . I was 7 years old at the time the cart was wrecked when a friend had his little brother sitting on his shoulders blast done the driveway through the machine shed wall and into a Marsh behind . collarbones were broken and the cart was hung in the rafters of the barn
When you guys are done with it PLEASE Let Me teach you guys how to build throttleable Hybrid Rocket Motors that run off N2o! Would make the best video for sure!
hybriddyneguy.... Talk to me, I'm Very interested! Any brochures or website information? I was in the process of nearly completing a Hydrogen Peroxide rocket powered Go-Kart for NHRA exhibition use back in the late 1970's (similar to "Capt" Jack McClures Kart), when NHRA put a moratorium on them... that they never lifted, to this day.
@@Romans--bo7br Captain Jack and Ky are dear friends of mine and they will be attempting the world rocket powered sled record later next month with Kurt Andersons Arctic Arrow. Here are the motors I had in mind. These are 4" Aluminum 1/8" wall tubes with homemade fuel grains made out of fiberglass and weldwood plastic cement. The nozzle are made of Phenolic with a graphite insert. The motors are 12" long and would require a separate tank of n2o. A ball valve is used to regulate the oxidizer flow. I designed these to be 100% homemade. I am JJ in the description and you can find Me on Facebook
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@@hybriddyneguy...Hello "JJ"... Thank you for your quick reply, I appreciate it. So you're close friends with both, Jack and Ky - that's great!! Interesting that I was just thinking about Capt. Jack about two weeks ago, and wondering if he was still among the living and if so, what he was up to.... so glad to hear that he's still alive & well (yes?... healthwise?). I will have to see if I can find you on FB.... I don't "do" FB myself, so don't have an account.... but will try and find you on there. Do you have more info on the "motor" on your site, there on FB? How much thrust is it producing? Average cost to build? Thanks again... will let you know on Here, If I was able to access your fb page, or not... a little later on tonight.
I too, would like to build one with my boys as a fun project. We've been interested in this for a long time and I am going to click on the link you provided. Hope to find instructions that we can follow to completion, thanks.
Nice M6GT Replica . Is it yours?
You've done go karts, mini bikes, golf cart, lawnmower. I wanna see you soup up a moped. Like a 50cc Tao Tao. Keep up the good work guys!
People still race karts similar to these, just with bodywork. They're called enduro/laydown karts and they're meant for road courses and ovals rather than kart tracks. Some people put higher-powered 4-strokes in them (for example, the Briggs Animal). These 4-stroke ones can do around 80 mph on a road course. Some people put 1x or 2x 100cc 2-stroke engines on them, and some people use 125cc shifter kart motors, which make around 40 hp.
That is the coolest gocart y'all have I remember when y'all got it
I kept thinking. ." Havent they gotten one before!?"
John, i have to admit i would've never imagined you having a V8 C10. You look like a lad who takes a Prius or a bus everywhere.
You guys are awesome! Appreciate being able to watch and keep up on your builds and adventures.
Aweee congrats guys. Love this video. I love your barn finds. This is what made you guys in my eyes ! Keep it up gentlemen!
never clicked so fast, Happy 500th!
Yes! I've always wondered where this gokart went
Double WOW!!.... an old endurance kart (aka Enduro Kart class) for a $100.... and Congratulations on your 500th video!! That's fantastic... now, for number 1,000 - Yes? All the "lay down" Enduro Karts were 2 Stroke powered..as were ALL Racing Karts back then. They had Three (3) classes back then if I remember correctly... 100cc, 135cc and 150cc and your Kart looks to me like it may be a Margay (but not sure of the exact year other than Late 60's to Early 70's)... which is one of the Few remaining Go Kart companies in the US still surviving from back in the day. Some of the enduro races were very long... 12 - 24+ hrs, and those large aluminum tanks on there indicates that whoever had it back then was probably participating in some of those longer race venues.
My 2nd job (starting at 12+ yrs old, in the evenings & Saturdays during the school year) was working at new Go-Kart shop / store, that had recently opened where I lived, in 1962... setting up engines on new chassis, running them "in" on our engine dyno, etc, etc.. and wound up being able to race, as the shop received a team sponsorship from McCulloch ("Mac"), we ran 5 karts... all "Mac" powered of course, in various classes. All the various engines we sold in the shop, whether for cruising the Mall parking lots on Sundays (stores were all closed on Sundays back then), or for racing.... were ALL 2 cycle (American "Reed valve" design), Clinton, Power Products/West Bend, Homelite, McCulloch, and European rotary valve, Komet & Parilla, etc.
They're still running the enduro classes. Back in the 70's, on the "long tracks" (road race type circuits) of the south west (AZ, NM, TX, So.Cal. and in Europe) these Karts (depending on engine class) were typically good for 80 - 125+ mph. Of course the modern Enduro class Karts are much more sophisticated with tunable chassis, much more reliable & powerful engines, full bodies on them for better aerodynamics, etc. Some of the "Super Karts" (shifter Karts) today (250cc) are running 160+ mph speeds... depending on the track & overall gearing of course.
The "lay downs" did run some races on a few of the NASCAR tracks, such as Daytona... but the last time, at least that I know of... was back in 2007, but that's not to say that they don't now... I haven't "followed" them in recent years.
For a while back in the late 90's and early 2000's there was an "outlaw class" of "Super (shifter) Karts" that were running at Watkins Glenn, NY and at Louden, NH.... seems they had two classes, 750cc & later an 1140cc class, and from what I read about them (back in 2004 or so), they posting track speeds at well over 200 mph... apparently faster & quicker lap times than the cars were. I don't know if that "outlaw class" still exists or not.
I never ran the enduro class karts myself, just the sprints during the 1960's and later again between 1979 and 1983 under the WKF (World Karting Federation) rules.
Love your channel.... reminds me of my younger years... Enjoy your youth, while you have it... it DOES go by Fast!! I'm 70 now... and thinking about going "riding mower" racing, as there isn't much for Go-Kart racing in this area where I'm living now. : ) I subscribed to your channel a few years ago... right after watching the first video that I found of yours... keep it up, your efforts are Very Much enjoyed and appreciated.
Congrats on 500 episodes! I have been watching since before you guys picked up that go cart. Also I cant wait for the truck videos
Crazy Looking Kart!!! Years ago i brought one like that with a clinton A490 engine.
But was not 100% the same , Did not have the side tanks , And also you did not lay as low.
that cart used mccollough 2-stroke chainsaw engines later ones used dual motors nasty is the word
Earlier ones used dual motors .. dual motor classes starting dying out after the 70's.
I love these vintage rebuilds!!!! Awsome 👍
I was gonna say McCulloch too! Yeah, I'm THAT old.... Good luck finding 'em.
"GOD BLESS YOU" Issac!
Power of THREE...😎🤔🤪
🤓 -Thomas
11:37 I ingested... everything
Congratulations on 500 video's, I appreciate you guys and the editing in all the video's over the years, keep up the great work your awesome.
Thank god that frame finally got used. I've wanted you guys to ride that since I saw it. Been a long time fan before you guys even had 100 thousand. I've watched the 50 dollar go kart video go from a couple hundred views to millions. So congratulations you guys.
Congrats on 500 episodes happy I could be here since the 2 didgit episode and hope to be here for 500 more
You guys can ride on the roads in “Mexico”😉🤫
Naw,,go to the local Wally or Target after hours,put up some cones and let 'er rip 'till the law shows:)
Because they can’t afford good police
Chase Howie probably because most of them got shot in drug cartels my dad’s brother was shot and killed because of that 😢
Wow you lot are thick.
If they say they’re in Mexico instead of in the US, it’s up to the cops to prove that they’re not. As long as the street they’re riding on isn’t draped in American flags, they can say they’re pretty much anywhere.
DWH BOI
That’s a great way to get your shit stolen (AKA “confiscated/impounded) by the law.
Never had a Go Kart and have not had a mini bike in 40 years....but I love watching you two, your exploits and builds. Thanks guys.
well done on your 500th!!! Love watching both you guys, keep it up.
i do hope isack will be fine , after all that sneezing .
My back is still hurting, laying down and bouncing like that.
Awesome video! Congrats on 500 vids! 👍
The vintage lay down go kart video I just watched brought back some memories, my neighbor had two that they raced but they were twin engine McCullough 90s, I'm not saying that this one wasn't a single engine but the twin engine was sick fast 110 + MPH on a road course Grand Prix style, fun to participate and watch
I had actually asked what happened to that kart! So glad you brought it back!
I'd tuck that throttle cable away before it gets snagged on a tree branch or bush, gets pulled out of its hold-downs, and brings the butterfly valve with it locking your throttle open. I also want to see that engine get built. A performance carb would solve the throttle cable issue too.
Im pumped.. when the c10 starts getting episodes, things are going to blow up for you guys in a whole new way.
That would make me want to throw money at a concrete driveway install.
I was thinking about an oval around the barn
Wow this is such a cool cart amazing footage guys you guys inspire us so much thanks for everything.
Tampa boys!🖐
Hey bud
I remember when y'all went and picked it up 😁😁😁😁😁
The legends are true! My Old Man told me stories of these diabolical machines. I fwd this video to my Old Man he is going to be so excited to watch this latest Car and Cameras installment. Thank guys and keep up the great work!
This build gives new meaning to “crotch rocket”! With the slightest slip off of the pedals, and that steering column will turn this cart into either “The Soprano Maker” or the “Its Absolutely Not Fine Express”!
Sweet upload dudes - Keep doing what you do!
Man I remember when these were bought...... damn time flies
when are you guys going to build the diesel recovery cart : )
We're having a billet flywheel made for the diesel engine, when that's done we'll start the build!
Back in the early 80'sI bought an old Margay Enduro chassis and managed to install a Honda 250cc Motocross motor/trans on it. My own shifter kart (still have a picture of it) :-) That was some serious fun.
maaaan I've been waiting forever to see something done with! still remember watching the video when you guys picked it up haha
I remember watching these carts race on tv. It was a indy style cart race.
Looks like you need to make a pavement track at Ike’s place.
Being that out here to Bonneville. I believe September is when they run karts and mini bikes and stuff.
Brilliant video, my cousin used to race these when I was a kid brought back a lot of memories thanks
Done some research. Looks like that could have been a prototype kart from the early 80’s called Margay Enduro Concept
Lost enduro are the type of cart, they were initially used from the mid 60's through the late 70's
These where called enduro karts, definitely pavement only karts. I remember seeing these towards the end of their popularity in the mid to late 70's. They had two stroke motors, McCulloch engines and later on they had Yamaha 125 two strokes. Sometimes they even had two motors. Running at speeds of 120 mph and more, you did not want to crash on one of these, especially with all that fuel 2 inches away from you. They had such big tanks because they did a lot of endurance racing via the name enduro. The thing that worries me is how close your right arm is to the clutch, with that big 4 strohe on there it does not leave much room. Cool to see one of these again.
500 ! Way to go guys. Congratulations on the continuing fun and bug eating.
Oh man that thing is sweet haven't seen one of those since I was little yal should of rebuilt that years ago
can smell that rubber from here haha glad you said we out ever why raining 😎best part seeing the test run or runing 🖖🖒🖒🖒🖒👀
Congrats on 500! It's been fun watching as G.P.S. and you guys have created some interesting stuff! I KNOW my Radio Flyer from the 1950s NEVER went as fast as yours!! lol Is Issac allergic to T-Rex John? Will John's arms ever grow longer? Will they ever find a paved track to ride on? Tune in next week for these and many other questions you may have! :)
I cannot wait to see this thing on the track!
Reg brake fluid won’t work long on the old airhear brakes. They use mineral oil. Be careful
Who remembers when john and isaac got "kicked out" of the garage and put in that shed, that lasted like a month 😂
bahahahhaha nobody can forget the spiders and leaking roof haha
Well done guys here's to the next 500
Almost bought a Kart similar to that back in the 90's at the WKA Northeast Regionals at The Magic Mile in Loudon NH. It had duel Dap 100cc engines it was impressive. These actually weren't that bad on the road course. The one I tried had been lengthened. I'm 6'4" and fit like a glove. Man was it fast coming off the course into turn 3 on the oval and down the front stretch. Yours might be a Hornet.
Damn nice find
Dude I can’t believe I’ve been watching you guys for over 4 years I miss the old intro too
Guys!!!!! Get a good seat that allows you to sit up. Put duel motors on the back end. Adjust the steering wheel up to the new seating position. That would be so cool. Maybe switch the aluminum tanks to rock guards? like aluminum plates? Bigger tires for more clearance? That would be such a cool video. I watch you guys all the time. Thanks for all the cool videos guys!
That is a really sick go kart. I didn't know they made lie-down go karts like that. I hope you restore it to its former glory, but then also have a separate performance engine for when you want to do runs. I imagine you'd get some crazy speed on that thing!
Ya know, for your next project you guys should build something completely different... Perhaps an actual track on Ike's land? xD Or maybe some sort of vehicle or attachment for use on a track..? (i.e grader blade of some sort might be useful.) And then you could film a series around it. :)
Smooth track surface does wonders👍👍
That style of cart is called a indruo for high speed super speedways
I once raced with this type of go-kart which is an Endoro racing Kart as basically had a KS-100 engine then went with a Yamaha in 1979 and now I haven't raced in years,but would love to get back into the hobby.
Ik was here since 27.000 subscribers so I really love this video!!
WHAT THE ACTUALL HELL?:DD CHEERS for 500 vids :)))
THANK YOU JOHN AND ISSAC FOR ALL OF THE GREAT CONTENT!!!!!
That cart might have been mine, built in 1973-74, but I wasn't the only one that owned one. It looks nearly identical to the one I had in the early 70s, except it's had some rough welding mods, rust and dust, wear and tear. It was made by Margay. It used to be a beautiful blue (frame) with shiny chrome gas tanks and black crisscrossing expansion chambers (exhaust). It had a nice black "interior" with a head-rest. Yes, you drove it laying almost flat, your back tilted up just slighly and your head up against the cusioned headrest. It's a flex frame, made to flex just a tad in the turns for better stability. (Think of a pair of eyeglasses frames that you can bend just a little and they spring back right into shape.) It had four-wheel hydraulic disk brakes with dual master cylinders. I built mine using a professional cart shop and equipped it with twin McCullough two-cycle racing engines and expansion chambers. I really never knew the actual engine torque/horsepower, because it was more about an engine built to turn very high R.P.M. Probably at least 10-12 HP each if you just want to know, but we didn't have a way to measure all that. It was more about the best engine out there for the job, and what you learned from other performance carts. The frame could be outfitted with a single engine but was really built for two engines. It wouldn't make sense in racing to run that frame with a single engine; you'd use a single engine cart for a single-engine racer. It had a solid live rear axle. Toe-in and caster/camber was adjustable on the front end. Each engine was started independently with a remote starter (basically a car starter motor welded to a small frame to hold it and a pulley that took a V-belt on the inside side of the engine crankshaft. The engines were designated left and right, so the drive-side shaft was to the outside on both sides (if I'm remembering correctly). Yes, you drove to incredible speed laying between two chrome gas tanks (one for each engine) on the left and right. In the video it appears the tanks were moved further out either to accommodate someone bigger than me or because someone thought it might be safer or offer more stability. I'm a smaller guy so it fit me perfectly. The fluid-filled centrifugal clutches handled the power transfer but it wasn't meant to sit still long. Another person got both engines started as quickly as possible and you wanted to get up to speed so the clutches would lock in and not overheat (about 50-60 mph for my gear ratio). Fastest I actually clocked mine using a follow vehicle was 125 mph, although if I'd had enough good straightaway I could have pushed it a bit faster, maybe 5 mph. Ground clearance? Get ready for it -- Lowest point to the ground was under my butt, just over 3/4." That's three-fourths inch, not three or four inches. No joke. It's a smooth pavement car. You could watch your front wheels expand with speed they were turning so fast. Cornering was incredible, and we mastered the drift long before the kids now in their bigger go-carts (small cars with bodies) think they did. It was really more fun geared down and driven in a huge parking lot back when everything pretty much still closed on Sundays, doing drifts, donuts and the like.
Congratulations guys many great inspirational vids over the years
I remember when you went to get the cart. I really liked that video
Lol I wana take one of those on a track , that would be awesome to go fast on tarmac laying down like that ! O and God bless you Ike 🙏🏼🤧
On a track it will be fun....still I would put more cushion on it. Oh and Happy 500 video's you guy's do a great job.
woah that thing is so cool good luck with thing thing guys!!
Oooooh i've waited for the buildoff since this video came out, where you bought it!
And finally i got the "buildoff"!
McCullough for sure was OEM engine i personally would find a Kawasaki or Suzuki 125cc 2 stroke dirt bike engine 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻😁
That body style a goat cart back in the 70s had a Clinton Panther 2 stroke race kart engine
500 and keep it coming love watching you guys
It’s such a low center of gravity it would be hard to flip
That 2-stroke engine you've had on another kart will put you a lot closer to 100 mph.
I have a predator 212 n it tops out at 55. How can i get more speed?
@@kinggg313 get bigger tires or smaller sprocket however you sacrifice torque/acceleration for max speed
Thank you guys for being the best TH-camrs!!
The truck is coming along nicely. I dig it. That go kart is really awesome as well.
It’s like a old McCulloch chainsaw engine for it
I remember that video. That's when I first started watching.
I know iam a little late on watching this video but you guys are so close to 1,000 videos!!!!!!! Keep up the hard work! You guys are such an inspiration to me and my friends and family thx for all of the fun times comming home from school and watching your guys videos !❤
I keep waiting for a truck video. Several times in past videos john mentions he was having a video soon. But I've yet to see one? Anyone else?
Yup