Hoka Clifton 9 vs 8: 3 Reasons I Still Prefer Clifton 8!
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Light and plush for everyday miles
The ninth iteration of our award-winning Clifton franchise has launched, lighter and more cushioned than ever before. Eliminating weight while adding 3mm in stack height, the new Clifton 9 delivers a revitalized underfoot experience with a responsive new foam and improved outsole design. Removing overlays and hotmelts, the stripped back upper has been consciously crafted with a plusher heel, reflective heel panel, and streamlined tongue with single side medial gusset.
BEST FOR:
Everyday Run
Walking
FEATURES:
Breathable engineered knit upper
Gusseted tongue
Compression molded EVA foam midsole
Early stage Meta-Rocker
Durabrasion rubber outsole
Inherently stable geometry
Recycled content mesh
Recycled polyester laces
Vegan
WHAT'S NEW
More stack height, less weight (4 grams, to be exact).
Why you’ll love it
Men's Clifton 9
Breathable, engineered knit upper
Delivers lightweight, foot-hugging comfort
Gusseted tongue
Mitigates tongue migration
Compression molded EVA foam midsole
Engineered for lightweight cushioning
Early stage Meta-Rocker
For smoother heel-to-toe transitions
Durabrasion rubber outsole
Extends rubber longevity
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Hes, a great review, as always. I, like you, am not a huge runner, but I wear running shoes 100% of the time for walking and everyday wear. Plenty of channels are out there for running, so thank you for what you do. I have a somewhat narrow foot with an arch, and I didn't get along with the Clifton 8's; the arch would protrude into my foot and make them uncomfortable. The Clifton 9's have changed it a little, and the arch no longer protrudes into my foot. To me, they are way more comfortable than the 8's. Because I need a little stability, as the super cushions tend to cause me hip pain, the Clifton 9 gives me the stability I need without going into full-on stability shoes like a Vongo or Kayano.
Hey Hes! I just want to thank you for getting me into the running shoe style of comfort. It has been amazing
I agree with you the 8’s are way more comfortable than the 9’s.
I absolutely agree with you- the 8's are more comfortable than the 9's. I am now trying to buy more 8's before they are all sold out!
Maybe you need to break them in a little more, my 8’s I wear them every day and the more I’ve worn them and broken them in the more comfy they are.
I am desperate to see Hoka makes softer Clifton's like the first generation. They are making there foams firmer and firmer. Come on Hoka!
I just bought some Clifton 8s and they are such a good all around shoe. Such a good feel when I’m running. I do 5k and just love them. Great cushioning and response. Love the weight and look too. I’m hooked. Thanks for the vid!
Just put my 50th mile in my last run with the Clifton 9’s and I’ve gotta say compared to my Clifton 8’s which I retired after about 250 miles, I’ve enjoyed every second better in every way or at least most ways than it’s predecessor. Only used as a recovery mind you, but no regret upgrading and spending the extra money while I had the chance to get the 8’s for $139 Canadian. At least that’s my opinion 😀
Really cool to see a review from casual wearers. I think many runners consider the 9s an improvement. They probably took some of the padding to reduce overall weight, which is more important to runners as many of them are sensitive even to a tenth of an ounce (not me, but I know runners who claim to be).
The look of the 8 is better in my opinion with the aggressive looking midsole.
Never had an 8 but may go back and try now. Love my 9s for running.
I agree with you .. I've been wearing the 8's for a year and ordered the 9's which are in front of me as I write this. To me, they are just not as comfortable.
Is there a story behind the coffee upside down on your hat? It upsets my eyes 😢
The clifton 8 was nice but the 1080v12 is better in almost every way imo
Hes, I’ve been a massive fan of your channel for years. I don’t want to go into too much detail, but your yearly top ten most comfortable sneaker list has been fantastic with helping my Chronic lower back Pain levels. I own many of the sneakers you recommended, and my pain levels, at the end of my days, have dropped. I just wanted you to know you’re helping more people than you may think. Thank you for what you do…..
I appreciate that!
I've demoed the 9 and own the 8 (350 miles). Liked the extra rocker and wt of the 9. Concerned about the firmer foam. Seems like they lost some "Hoka'ism"
The guy only likes ultra fluffy ones. In fact, Hoka hits the nail on the head with their firm yet comfortable foam, which is why they're so popular. The original cushion shoe and still the best !
I am going to preface that I am NOT a runner. The only thing that I run to is the buffet. I have multiple pairs of the Clifton 8’s and Clifton 9’s and spend all day on my feet. I love them both but I do not feel a difference between the two except for the softer pull tab on the rear. If I could find more color ways of the Clifton 8’s I do not feel like I would buy another pair of the 9’s.
@Heskickss @johnfocacci831
OnClouds and Hokas. Walking (and running) on fluffy clouds.
Just a tip. When you're comparing two versions of the same shoe type, maybe it would be better to put the name of the shoe when you do close up shots or whenever possible. In order to just see the difference between them. Just an observation. Thanks for the video
That's a really good call. I should've done that! I've done that in some other comparison videos, but definitely make note from this comment to do it more often!
Clifton 6 and Bondi 5 were the most confortable. The next generations were more rigid, don't understand why
Agree! I love my clifton 8's. The 9's have a bigger toe box so I'm swimming and plus aren't as soft.
Very underrated brand.
Not at all, it’s dominating running retail sales.
Probrably the most hyped sneaker brand currently lmao
How tf us hoka underrated 😂
That’s funny Hoka says they have a softer compound in the 9’s va the 8’s
I got me the Clifton 9’s from Marathon Sports here in Boston. Thank god they allowed me to get the wide version cause the regular size were a little too restricting on my big feet. Overall these bad boys are very comfy. Next to my 990v5’s they’re some of my comfiest kicks in my rotation. Looking forward for new color ways.
Did you go tts on the wide or size down? I’m normally a 10.5 but was wondering if I would be a 10wide. Can’t really try in store so have to order online.
I noticed the heel is much more secure, for me, in the newer clifton 9. For my anatomy, the 9's win out.
i just felt that the clifton 9 are more stiff than the clifton 8 . Clifton 8 are more comfortable ! let me know what do u think ?
3:56 "You're gonna be like.. bro..."
Nailed it
I’ve been wearing the 8s for over a year now and recently got the 9s. I found round out the box the 9s had more room in the toe box. Strangely enough I found that the heel on the 9s felt softer but the overall feel was slightly firmer. Which I think might be a good thing for the Eva’s longevity the 8s after about 8 months seemed to of flattened down and compressed a lot so will be interesting to see what the 9s are like with the new eva compound over time
I bought 9's today. The 8's are definitely more comfortable.
Around 3:12. What a silly things to say! Just because they did give their foam a funky sounding brand name you have a problem with the product? That makes no sense. You should evaluate the product for what it is atleast for the GR pairs like this. People don't care about the marketing or hype when it comes shoes like this.
is your Clifton 8s a wide version as well? I'm going back and forth with the Clifton and the Bondi and then the Fresh Foam X v4. You mentioned you needed to get the Bondi wide version and not needed for the Fresh Foam. But don't remember you mentioning needing the wide version for Clifton 8. thanks!
I’ve been meaning to try the Cliftons or the Bondi 8 for every day walking and running shoes. My go to so far is the new balance more v4. Would you recommend these shoes or stick to the ones I have?
i saw pearl jam on stage in black hokas last summer ;)
I agree the hoka 8 is extremely comfortable
The 8s were way to soft for me. Especially the upper. My foot never feels stable in them. Hope the 9s are better.
too
Hey Hes, wondering if your next video could be on the Air Max Pulse. Been seeing that its sitting and wondering if its worth a try.
I too prefer clifton 8 to 9. I wonder if I should return the 9 I got. The problem is, I can not find 8 any longer.
Yea, it seems that's how there doing it
Thank you for the video! Could you comment on how the sneakers you review feel on the arch? For someone with flat feet that are an important dealbreaker to buy some new shoes!
Do you buy your sneakers big? It looks like there's a pretty huge gap between your heel and the back of the shoe.
Would these be ideal for people with Flat Feet? If not which Hokas would be?
I have flat feet too. The Hoka Arahi is supposed to be the stability version of the Clifton. My feet are also pretty wide so they didn't work for me when ibtried them on :/. Because of my flat feet and working 12+ hrs in the ER i got plantar fasciitis so they recommended i get the Hoka Bondi 8 (the Hoka Gaviota is the flat foot/stability equivalent). I wear insoles regardless but i love the Bondi's!! TLDR: any of those will probably work because even the Clifton and Bondi have inherent stabilty built in. If you can try them on you'll be good. Good luck
Biggg fan of your channel hes 💪💪🔥🔥 what do you think about the new cloudsurfer ?
I think the 9 is supposed to be firmer but more responsive when running..maybe different for walking?
I love Hoka precisely because their foam is firmer. It's stable and comfortable but not stupidly plush. Maybe not the WOW effect at first but on the long run, way better than other clown shoes.
I agree precisely, others are just too soft for all day wear IMHO, and shoes like the Invincibles are just too unstable under foot for my liking.
A key difference is the removable insole. th-cam.com/video/mJOX3Z61xp4/w-d-xo.html the new Foamwell compresses and flattens quickly versus Ortholite which almost never compresses over time. The trade off is weight but the loss of cushion is huge in the 9’s. This might explain your feelings about the two! I read that HOKA is using Foamwell to save weight. It’s a bad idea sadly.
agreed cifton 8 are more comfy !
Doesn’t Hoka have a rep for being very narrow?
yup....asics nimbus, nike invicible, nb soft cell can compete with HOka....but....at twice the price....
I was so looking forward to the 9s, but my 8s are better for running! The 9s are too wide and squishy. Can't find my favorite running show anymore! Sad!
Is it nessesary to go with Wide in Clifton 9. In New Balance I prefer wide in anything they have wide in (except fresh foam more). Aren’t Hoka wider to begin with or is that just the Bondi? New Balance seems to be only brand I need wide in normally
hoka clifton9 is the best shoe for me. It's fun, looks great, bouncy and protective💐👏🏻💯💯✔️
@Hes Kicks, I’m looking into getting the Clifton 8, and I’m wanting the 2e size only because every running shoe, though they feel good at the toe it’s always way too tight on The mid and causes pain . I’m normally 8.5, but at the store I was at they told me I should wear a 9. The 9s in running shoes did feel good but I heard a 2e is pretty much like going half a size up but I’ve never tried it. Should I get my 8.5 2e or get a 9 2e?
Love your channel HES
i have both, and i love the 9 better.
Any runners in here with an opinion
Enjoyed your review, I've been looking to upgrade but still enjoying my 8s, of which I have 4 pairs.
Not sure if anyone else has experienced this but the cushioning feels different with each pair. One is noticeable softer than the others.
Might be the same issue with the 9s
glad i doubled up on the 8's
Nothing like Clifton 8 to bad they discontinued 😢
Can you review the on cloudsurfers please!
new balance propel v4 is the cheap supercomp trainer?!
Hovr fat tire?
Clift 9 sucks, inside of the shoes when walking, feels as if you're walking on a cardboard box...Clifton 8 feels comfortable to walk all day at work
I hope HOKA ONE ONE can do experiences with other midsole like TPU / e-TPU (energy return 80%) / PEBA (energy return 90%) / PEBA HG (energy return 95%). They greatest shoe is only Rocket X-2 (PEBA w/ Carbon Plate) as for my opinion. Various midsole of HOKA ONE ONE's shoes just sticking around EVA based foam. Sometimes they compact the EVA (become firmer & lighter) or only loosen up the EVA (becomer bouncy & heavier). They have a lot of beautiful colors in their shoes, yet would be better if they also change their midsole technology.
Who even uses PEBA HG?
@@MadLadsAnonymous As far as i know Saucony Endorphine Pro Elite
Yo hes, these or the fuel cell supercomps?
I think hes prefers nb
They look big on you, like you tried on your dads size 12s 😂
Ain't NO WAY HE COMPARING SHOES NOW THAT ARE MEANT FOR RUNNING
Hes has been doing that for a while
@@michaeltran2743 not surprised but that's the issue
@@altoes8884 what exactly is the issue? It’s what he’s always done forever in his reviews. Welcome to the channel?
@@DrKevron Most people are taking running shoes, especially marathon & marathon trainers as casual everyday shows which can mess up their feet and he's not providing that information such as other running channels that actually do
@@DrKevronPeople say these foams don't really show their colors until you compress them in a jog/run movement; walking doesn't reveal their performance.
I'm sure some running shoes are super comfortable for all day walking/standing, though.
I just can't get down with the Hoka's. They are just terribly ugly. New Balance is about as ugly as I can do 🤣😂
Until you actually try them on…
Ugly branding
The problem with this review is you're not wearing these shoes for running. So when you review running shoes for their "squishy comfort" which you repeatedly say, you're doing the people a disservice. These are running shoes. So realistically the review is irrelevant unless you're run testing them.
I have both as well and the 9s are better for running for energy return and fit, while the 8's are more of a casual shoe. He likes the 8's more because his entire thing is comfort/squish and that's fair I guess. I personally use exclusively the 9s for work though because they're just better for energy return.
Wrong. Couldn’t disagree more. Tons of people wear running shoes all the time and never run in them.
"you're doing the people a disservice". Well, no, for people that want comfortable shoes, that stay on their feet the entire day, people that have issues in their feet/kinesthesis... This video is actually an amazing "service". Go back to "runner's review" TH-camrs if you don't like this, but don't come here to be toxic and pretend you know what everyone wants / needs. "Grow" some empathy, lad.
Even the Hoka website says the Clifton shoes are for every day running and walking. Everyone’s foot is different. I like to run in Clifton 8 and it’s also a nice walk shoes for me, period. If you think this is disservice, then maybe you shouldn’t been looking for Clinton. You should get some fancy professional running shoes with fancy technologies that are designed for racing.
Hoka same as nike: bad durability