Yeah, when that Canter went up that dug out hill climb the first time I'm going "Whoa, slow down!". It's extremely capable if you just let it do it's thing.
Learning, learning...it's good to do the same track again and again. How good was the anti-stall idle! Yes, I didn't make it, but that was my first time driving and if I knew the truck better, I could have avoided the stall.
Slow is good. Yes. In many cases the limiting factor is the skill of the driver. I have met many young drivers that think speed and power is the solution. Based upon my life experience of driving off road for over 55 years skill of the driver is parament. Another great video. Keep up the good work.
Very good Robert. As more people begin to realise the weight limitations of the current offerings - (mostly 3.0 tonnes) they are turning towards the American pick-ups or the 4x4 truck range. 12 months ago I swapped my umteenth LandCruiser for a HIno 300 (model 817) series 4x4. I could not be happier. Just back from a 15,000 klm exploration of the Pilbara and the vehicle performed admirably. If anybody has a doubt, as to the vehicle's capability, I completed the Kennedy Range National Park loop track without incident. Just as your video described, I let the vehicle 'walk' over each obstacle and hill climb - 9 hours for 120 klms ! And enough room for the entire family - 7 seats ! Fuel consumption, over 15,000 klms, was 6.5 kpl or 15.5 litres per 100 klms.
We run them as medium attack fire trucks. Even loaded to GVM and dual tyres on the back, they are surprisingly capable. Not fast, but they will get there.
We were using these trucks for fire fighting vehicles in National Parks maybe 15-18 years ago, did 4WD, winching, recovery training in them, they are very damn capable even fully loaded. This is nothing new to the world at large. Certainly more capable than the 70 series Landcruisers of the day due mainly to diff locks. The cruisers were just a little better and crosscountry thru trees due to maneuverability.
Awesome vid and well edited/paced. This is literally a house on wheels going nearly anywhere. You should be getting kick backs from AAV as I just ordered one after watching your vids. Look forward to the next one cheers
Great to hear, yes I've been told I've helped sell a few, and various other products for other companies. It's interesting that no marketer would ever create anything in my style - they'd go for something flashier, shorter - yet somehow...what I do seems to work pretty well. If I can connect people with the right product for them I'm happy.
Nice footage of the truck actually working, most YT videos just show them on easy tracks or parked up. The owner should look at adding scrub bars along the top of the cabin.
We’ve just seen a MAN truck stuck in the mud on the subkah flats of Oman for 8 days! The flats looked perfectly safe to drive until all of a sudden they weren’t. A mammoth recovery operation ensued. Trucks have more associated problems than benefits. Another Unimog was stuck in the Kazak mud last week for 6 days! Know your limits with these trucks and whenever possible bring a truck of similar size and weight along with you as your recovery vehicle!
Well, the vehicle can be a two or three seater, so there is the option for 2 wives 1 husband, or 3 wives, or 2 husbands, 1 wife or any other combination of relationships one may wish for. However, I feel that even allowing for the probable maximum travelling-operational weight of humans of different sexes, the exact combination is not material given there is 500kg of payload left even after 2 adult humans have all their gear on board.
Robert, another superb look at a light truck in conditions most people thinking of getting something like this, are contemplating doing. That vehicle was literally walking through everything that was thrown at it, all the while, running somewhere around 90% of its GVM. Does it have a front locker, or is it a Torque Bias Differential?
It has a front selectable locker, which we did not need to use. Rear ATB LSD. I would recommend people option the front locker and rear winch though, you may rarely need them, but dealing with nearly 6t of bogged truck on 37s will require every trick in the book and then some.
Have been 4WDing for over 40 years. Series Land Rovers had a hand throttle. May be a good addition to something like this, rather than relying on the Anti-stall.
There may be a hand throttle in the vehicle, early days for the owner. Our Isuzu NPS has a hand throttle which is designed to be used when operating the PTO, as in a tip truck. The NPS also has an Anti-stall feature and I've tested it similar to what was shown here with near identical results. However by applying a very small amount of hand throttle, it is just running over the normal idle, and drives up things like that without any real issues. Know about the Land Rovers and their notched hand throttle in the centre of the dashboard. Did quite a few hours some days running a big lawnmower off the rear three point linkage and being driven by the PTO. Worked best in low range otherwise it tended to stall when doing U turns at the end of the paddock.
Hello from Spain. Preparing a Fuso Canter to go around the world.😏 Spectacular video. Thank you so much. It is not clear to me if this truck has mounted locks or only the original limited slip or self-locking differential. Here in Europe it is difficult (if not impossible) to find lockout kits for the Fuso Canter. Sorry for the Google translation. A greeting from Spain.
hi - it has the standard rear LSD, and an Eaton front axle cross-axle differential lock from AAV4x4. I would suggest contacting AAV4x4 and getting one shipped over, it's good insurance, and also the rear winch kit.
@@L2SFBC Thanks for the reply. Too much money spent.🤦♂ I have to recover a little and then I'll think about things like putting the front lock on.😉 Thanks again. 👍
There are getting more and more of these trucks getting around Australia, some towing vans as well. I wonder how the Canter v OKA v Iveco Comparison would go?
Good though the Canter is, it'd be left behind by the OKA and Iveco live-axle Daily which both offer front and rear cross-axle lockers. However, the Canter is more than good enough for offroading, but I would option the front locker just in case.
The canter is awesome. I wonder how it performs when towing a caravan. People choose the NPS as it got more power towing, but it's just too big and less offroad capable than the canter.
@@L2SFBC Las time I did the track there were a couple of creek crossings that were a bit to negotiate. I had a 100 series and camping trailer, then there were tight tracks and blind spots. A motorcyclist died near Gunshot crossing hitting 4x4 on a corner while we were there, and sections of low foliage. That was over 10 years ago, maybe a few of these trucks have cleared a path now.
The only place I'd be worried about is the creek/gully with two trees over it. I did that in a Hilux years ago. Definitely pucker territory. A couple of creek crossings but any vehicle you take on that track needs to be set up for wading, but these trucks have a natural advantage when it comes to that - you probably wouldn't need a snorkel, just breathers on all transmission cases. There's a couple of tight turns, but nothing that would be impassable. If you were too worried you could always take the inland track. We did both - up on the telegraph and back on the inland track. The inland track was actually worse because some of the creeks were still all washed out from the previous wet season - it hadn't seen any work for a couple of years. There's that one creek where everyone crashes and burns, but you can bypass it by going via the ranger station. I was disappointed that we bypassed so I went back and did it both ways, by two of the possible routes. The second hardest crossing was the deepest water, where you drive into the creek, turn sharp left, wade up the creek 20 or 30 meters, then sharp right to get up and out of the creek. I really don't recommend it for any vehicle and I probably wouldn't recommend that anyone does it. It might have been closed by now. There's an alternate middle route which is a steep drop off into the creek, and that's the one where people break their vehicles nosing them full into the river bed. Stupid stuff.
@@L2SFBC Yeah it probably would be ok. Low hanging branches would probably be the main problem I guess. I was living in Weipa at the time so a couple of ‘Tip Trips’ were a requirement. Everyone should have a crack at it at some stage. When I did the 2 trips the grass was long and track was only really one vehicle wide. I remember saying to the missus that a big rig might have trouble. From memory the Cockatoo Creek crossing is steep on the north side and there might be low branches there. I might be wrong. We didn’t do the inland alternative track.
Too large, too heavy, center of gravity too high, international shipping only on roll on-roll off ships (height, extremely expensive), more difficult to recover (weight), unsuitable for many mountain tracks, too many road restrictions (speed, not permitted on small roads), higher insurance fees in many countries.
Mostly fair points. Now list all the cons of say an LC79 or Defender. Every vehicle is a compromise. This particular one will suit many and now they can see how capable it is and also that it is surprisingly good at tight tracks for its size.
Too large - for what? Fits down tracks just fine. Too heavy - for what? Having travelled through 59 countries on 4 continents at 5900 kg only once did I not risk a dodgy wooden bridge, easy to drive around. High CofG, probably no worse than a car with a roof top tent - the tent as a % of total vehicle weight is huge, on a truck like this the majority of the mass is actually very low, in the chassis rails, the roof structure and walls are light, its just looks top heavy. Shipping, RORO is cheaper than a container unless you can find someone to share with, then you have all the hassle of co-ordinating with someone else. Height, mine is 3.3m only twice in 10 years has this been an issue, again easily driven around. Expensive, yes and that may be why people slag them off - jealousy. More difficult to recover, possibly but also capable of carrying way more recovery equipment tools and spare. I’ve never needed any assistance recovering the vehicle even when 700 mm deep in volcanic ash. Never had an issue in the mountains, biturbo and common rails pulling nicely above 16,000’. Never had a road where we were not allowed. Higher insurance, yeh like you can get anything other than 3rd party in most of the developing world. The plus side is never wanting to book into a hotel or hostel to freshen up and being comfortable when its +50C or -32C outside and having space to live inside when its chucking it down.
Size is relative. I dont go on hard 4wd trips with my chums because they're too fast and the tracks too tight. But did Canning Stock Route last year as an unplanned bolt-on to 3 other remote desert tracks. Can easily do crazy remote trips. The truck has 2 showers, a toilet, big solar and batteries, fridge, freezer, double bed, dining room, TV, Starlink, and even the kitchen sink. 350L diesel giving a range of 1500km. 240L water and, if careful, enough food capacity for a month. Its our permanent home.
Yeah, when that Canter went up that dug out hill climb the first time I'm going "Whoa, slow down!". It's extremely capable if you just let it do it's thing.
Learning, learning...it's good to do the same track again and again. How good was the anti-stall idle! Yes, I didn't make it, but that was my first time driving and if I knew the truck better, I could have avoided the stall.
Slow is good. Yes. In many cases the limiting factor is the skill of the driver. I have met many young drivers that think speed and power is the solution. Based upon my life experience of driving off road for over 55 years skill of the driver is parament. Another great video. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
I like the fact my ATW has a a pop top which gives me quite abit more access in the low tree branch tracks.
Thank you for the excellent videos!
Very good Robert.
As more people begin to realise the weight limitations of the current offerings - (mostly 3.0 tonnes) they are turning towards the American pick-ups or the 4x4 truck range.
12 months ago I swapped my umteenth LandCruiser for a HIno 300 (model 817) series 4x4. I could not be happier.
Just back from a 15,000 klm exploration of the Pilbara and the vehicle performed admirably.
If anybody has a doubt, as to the vehicle's capability, I completed the Kennedy Range National Park loop track without incident. Just as your video described, I let the vehicle 'walk' over each obstacle and hill climb - 9 hours for 120 klms !
And enough room for the entire family - 7 seats !
Fuel consumption, over 15,000 klms, was 6.5 kpl or 15.5 litres per 100 klms.
Fantastic and your story is why I point people towards these trucks! Fuel consumption less than many towing vans too.
We run them as medium attack fire trucks. Even loaded to GVM and dual tyres on the back, they are surprisingly capable. Not fast, but they will get there.
We have the Parabolic leaf springs also, very happy with the ride which include air ride seating.
Good job !
Great to hear!
We were using these trucks for fire fighting vehicles in National Parks maybe 15-18 years ago, did 4WD, winching, recovery training in them, they are very damn capable even fully loaded. This is nothing new to the world at large. Certainly more capable than the 70 series Landcruisers of the day due mainly to diff locks. The cruisers were just a little better and crosscountry thru trees due to maneuverability.
Great content Robert. Very interesting to see how the truck frame flexed compared to a normal ute.
Shout out to El Presidente for letting you drive. 😁
A normal ute has the same concept but it is just far less noticeable!
Awesome vid and well edited/paced. This is literally a house on wheels going nearly anywhere. You should be getting kick backs from AAV as I just ordered one after watching your vids. Look forward to the next one cheers
Great to hear, yes I've been told I've helped sell a few, and various other products for other companies. It's interesting that no marketer would ever create anything in my style - they'd go for something flashier, shorter - yet somehow...what I do seems to work pretty well. If I can connect people with the right product for them I'm happy.
Nice footage of the truck actually working, most YT videos just show them on easy tracks or parked up. The owner should look at adding scrub bars along the top of the cabin.
Thanks, also careful to make the clips long enough so you can see it work, not 2-3 sec ones which cut away fast.
Sooo cool. Driver a Scania 26t garbage truck. This looks insane
We’ve just seen a MAN truck stuck in the mud on the subkah flats of Oman for 8 days!
The flats looked perfectly safe to drive until all of a sudden they weren’t.
A mammoth recovery operation ensued. Trucks have more associated problems than benefits.
Another Unimog was stuck in the Kazak mud last week for 6 days!
Know your limits with these trucks and whenever possible bring a truck of similar size and weight along with you as your recovery vehicle!
Mud flats...always a risk! You can get anything stuck if you're silly enough.
Thanks for clarifying the wife quantity
Well, the vehicle can be a two or three seater, so there is the option for 2 wives 1 husband, or 3 wives, or 2 husbands, 1 wife or any other combination of relationships one may wish for. However, I feel that even allowing for the probable maximum travelling-operational weight of humans of different sexes, the exact combination is not material given there is 500kg of payload left even after 2 adult humans have all their gear on board.
Great Video! Cant wait to get mine off the blacktop!! (AAV but DIY Camper)
Thank you for the video sir🎉
Always welcome
Robert, another superb look at a light truck in conditions most people thinking of getting something like this, are contemplating doing. That vehicle was literally walking through everything that was thrown at it, all the while, running somewhere around 90% of its GVM.
Does it have a front locker, or is it a Torque Bias Differential?
It has a front selectable locker, which we did not need to use. Rear ATB LSD. I would recommend people option the front locker and rear winch though, you may rarely need them, but dealing with nearly 6t of bogged truck on 37s will require every trick in the book and then some.
Have been 4WDing for over 40 years. Series Land Rovers had a hand throttle. May be a good addition to something like this, rather than relying on the Anti-stall.
There may be a hand throttle in the vehicle, early days for the owner. Our Isuzu NPS has a hand throttle which is designed to be used when operating the PTO, as in a tip truck. The NPS also has an Anti-stall feature and I've tested it similar to what was shown here with near identical results. However by applying a very small amount of hand throttle, it is just running over the normal idle, and drives up things like that without any real issues.
Know about the Land Rovers and their notched hand throttle in the centre of the dashboard. Did quite a few hours some days running a big lawnmower off the rear three point linkage and being driven by the PTO. Worked best in low range otherwise it tended to stall when doing U turns at the end of the paddock.
The NPS does have a hand throttle, I suspect the Canter does too.
The early ford couriers also had hand throttles.
Hello from Spain. Preparing a Fuso Canter to go around the world.😏
Spectacular video. Thank you so much.
It is not clear to me if this truck has mounted locks or only the original limited slip or self-locking differential.
Here in Europe it is difficult (if not impossible) to find lockout kits for the Fuso Canter.
Sorry for the Google translation.
A greeting from Spain.
hi - it has the standard rear LSD, and an Eaton front axle cross-axle differential lock from AAV4x4. I would suggest contacting AAV4x4 and getting one shipped over, it's good insurance, and also the rear winch kit.
@@L2SFBC
Thanks for the reply.
Too much money spent.🤦♂
I have to recover a little and then I'll think about things like putting the front lock on.😉
Thanks again. 👍
What year is that Fuso?
We have 2 Warn 16.5 winches front & rear.
There are getting more and more of these trucks getting around Australia, some towing vans as well. I wonder how the Canter v OKA v Iveco Comparison would go?
Good though the Canter is, it'd be left behind by the OKA and Iveco live-axle Daily which both offer front and rear cross-axle lockers. However, the Canter is more than good enough for offroading, but I would option the front locker just in case.
Interesting demonstrations, thanks. What's their rollover risk compared to an SUV 4WD?
Higher, as the width is the same but it's taller. However, a lot of the weight is relatively low so it's not as great as may be thought.
Anti stall for the win!
The canter is awesome. I wonder how it performs when towing a caravan. People choose the NPS as it got more power towing, but it's just too big and less offroad capable than the canter.
Hmm, I wouldn't say it's less capable...watch this - th-cam.com/video/gAljVxg_C5w/w-d-xo.html
Done the telegraph track a couple of times. Can’t see one of these fitting through a lot of it.
Why not?
@@L2SFBC
Las time I did the track there were a couple of creek crossings that were a bit to negotiate. I had a 100 series and camping trailer, then there were tight tracks and blind spots. A motorcyclist died near Gunshot crossing hitting 4x4 on a corner while we were there, and sections of low foliage.
That was over 10 years ago, maybe a few of these trucks have cleared a path now.
If a LC100 and camper can get through, then so could the Canter unless height was a problem which I doubt.
The only place I'd be worried about is the creek/gully with two trees over it. I did that in a Hilux years ago. Definitely pucker territory. A couple of creek crossings but any vehicle you take on that track needs to be set up for wading, but these trucks have a natural advantage when it comes to that - you probably wouldn't need a snorkel, just breathers on all transmission cases. There's a couple of tight turns, but nothing that would be impassable. If you were too worried you could always take the inland track. We did both - up on the telegraph and back on the inland track. The inland track was actually worse because some of the creeks were still all washed out from the previous wet season - it hadn't seen any work for a couple of years.
There's that one creek where everyone crashes and burns, but you can bypass it by going via the ranger station. I was disappointed that we bypassed so I went back and did it both ways, by two of the possible routes. The second hardest crossing was the deepest water, where you drive into the creek, turn sharp left, wade up the creek 20 or 30 meters, then sharp right to get up and out of the creek. I really don't recommend it for any vehicle and I probably wouldn't recommend that anyone does it. It might have been closed by now. There's an alternate middle route which is a steep drop off into the creek, and that's the one where people break their vehicles nosing them full into the river bed. Stupid stuff.
@@L2SFBC
Yeah it probably would be ok.
Low hanging branches would probably be the main problem I guess. I was living in Weipa at the time so a couple of ‘Tip Trips’ were a requirement.
Everyone should have a crack at it at some stage. When I did the 2 trips the grass was long and track was only really one vehicle wide.
I remember saying to the missus that a big rig might have trouble.
From memory the Cockatoo Creek crossing is steep on the north side and there might be low branches there. I might be wrong.
We didn’t do the inland alternative track.
I've got 2
Slow as possible and fast as necessary......Canters make goof off road firetrucks, a bit slow though.
Too large, too heavy, center of gravity too high, international shipping only on roll on-roll off ships (height, extremely expensive), more difficult to recover (weight), unsuitable for many mountain tracks, too many road restrictions (speed, not permitted on small roads), higher insurance fees in many countries.
Mostly fair points. Now list all the cons of say an LC79 or Defender. Every vehicle is a compromise. This particular one will suit many and now they can see how capable it is and also that it is surprisingly good at tight tracks for its size.
Too large - for what? Fits down tracks just fine. Too heavy - for what? Having travelled through 59 countries on 4 continents at 5900 kg only once did I not risk a dodgy wooden bridge, easy to drive around. High CofG, probably no worse than a car with a roof top tent - the tent as a % of total vehicle weight is huge, on a truck like this the majority of the mass is actually very low, in the chassis rails, the roof structure and walls are light, its just looks top heavy. Shipping, RORO is cheaper than a container unless you can find someone to share with, then you have all the hassle of co-ordinating with someone else. Height, mine is 3.3m only twice in 10 years has this been an issue, again easily driven around. Expensive, yes and that may be why people slag them off - jealousy. More difficult to recover, possibly but also capable of carrying way more recovery equipment tools and spare. I’ve never needed any assistance recovering the vehicle even when 700 mm deep in volcanic ash. Never had an issue in the mountains, biturbo and common rails pulling nicely above 16,000’. Never had a road where we were not allowed. Higher insurance, yeh like you can get anything other than 3rd party in most of the developing world. The plus side is never wanting to book into a hotel or hostel to freshen up and being comfortable when its +50C or -32C outside and having space to live inside when its chucking it down.
Size is relative. I dont go on hard 4wd trips with my chums because they're too fast and the tracks too tight. But did Canning Stock Route last year as an unplanned bolt-on to 3 other remote desert tracks.
Can easily do crazy remote trips. The truck has 2 showers, a toilet, big solar and batteries, fridge, freezer, double bed, dining room, TV, Starlink, and even the kitchen sink.
350L diesel giving a range of 1500km. 240L water and, if careful, enough food capacity for a month.
Its our permanent home.