I wonder why BAFTA must cut this important speech part: Joshua Oppenheimer: “I urge us all to examine ourselves, and acknowledge that we are all closer to perpetrators than we like to believe. The United Kingdom and United States enthusiastically helped to engineer the genocide, and for decades enthusiastically supported the military dictatorship that came to power through the genocide. We will not have an ethical relationship with Indonesia, or so many countries across the global south going forward, until we acknowledge the crimes of the past, and our collective role in supporting, participating in, and, ultimately, ignoring those crimes.”
Shame on Bafta for censoring Joshua Oppenheimer’s acceptance remarks, most importantly his call for self-reflection (and avoidance of smugness?). Alexander Cockburn got it right in his scathing review of Errol Morris’ documentary of Robert McNamara, a mass murderer whom Anwar Congo couldn’t hold a candle to: www.counterpunch.org/2004/01/24/robert-mcnamara-10-errol-morris-0/ viooz.co/search?q=the+fog+of+war&s=t Like the Pemuda Pancasila chieftain, McNamara spoke (guardedly) about his war crimes in the documentary, and he enjoyed impunity and respectability which continues to this day beyond his demise.
Joshua Oppenheimer has repeatedly urged us to also consider, beyond the individual culpability of perpetrators, the systemic nature of the oppression that we all benefit from, to varying degrees (e.g. cheaper goods from dis-empowered labor). This important message tends to get lost amidst the voyeuristic fascination with murder-porn and 'foreign barbarism' this might descend into (as opposed to 'normalised' and 'civilised' barbarism).
Sickening that they give him an award for this masterpiece and then cut out the important part of speech where criticizes the people who actually matter and have power.
Can't you imagine the reactions of movie stars after hear Joshua's controversy speech ?? I wonder Meryl Streep, Sandra Bullock, Leo diCaprio, Tom Hanks, Bradley Cooper, even Oprah felt kinda offended when their country are accused as perpetrators, even i doubt that they know about Indonesia, they just know Bali. LOL !!
Selamat dan terima kasih Joshua dan para kru Anonymouss udah membuka banyak pikiran orang-orang Indonesia. Mungkin tidak semua tetapi lebih baik satu daripada tidak sama sekali. SALUTE!!
Terima kasih mankomank. Semoga lebih banyak yang menonton, lebih banyak yang tergugah, dan semakin dekat kita dengan kebenaran, keadilan, dan rekonsiliasi.
I wonder why BAFTA must cut this important speech part:
Joshua Oppenheimer:
“I urge us all to examine ourselves, and acknowledge that we are all closer to perpetrators than we like to believe. The United Kingdom and United States enthusiastically helped to engineer the genocide, and for decades enthusiastically supported the military dictatorship that came to power through the genocide. We will not have an ethical relationship with Indonesia, or so many countries across the global south going forward, until we acknowledge the crimes of the past, and our collective role in supporting, participating in, and, ultimately, ignoring those crimes.”
Shame on Bafta for censoring Joshua Oppenheimer’s acceptance remarks, most importantly his call for self-reflection (and avoidance of smugness?). Alexander Cockburn got it right in his scathing review of Errol Morris’ documentary of Robert McNamara, a mass murderer whom Anwar Congo couldn’t hold a candle to:
www.counterpunch.org/2004/01/24/robert-mcnamara-10-errol-morris-0/
viooz.co/search?q=the+fog+of+war&s=t
Like the Pemuda Pancasila chieftain, McNamara spoke (guardedly) about his war crimes in the documentary, and he enjoyed impunity and respectability which continues to this day beyond his demise.
I had no idea that this was censored, thanks for making me aware. I find it truly disgusting that they would cut it out.
Joshua Oppenheimer has repeatedly urged us to also consider, beyond the individual culpability of perpetrators, the systemic nature of the oppression that we all benefit from, to varying degrees (e.g. cheaper goods from dis-empowered labor). This important message tends to get lost amidst the voyeuristic fascination with murder-porn and 'foreign barbarism' this might descend into (as opposed to 'normalised' and 'civilised' barbarism).
Hollywood wasn't woke yet. If Hollywood wasn't ready to get political, they shouldn't just give the award to blackfish.
Sickening that they give him an award for this masterpiece and then cut out the important part of speech where criticizes the people who actually matter and have power.
So... the Oscars think a documentary about a bunch of singers are more essential than the Act of Killing?
thank you josh
Can't you imagine the reactions of movie stars after hear Joshua's controversy speech ?? I wonder Meryl Streep, Sandra Bullock, Leo diCaprio, Tom Hanks, Bradley Cooper, even Oprah felt kinda offended when their country are accused as perpetrators, even i doubt that they know about Indonesia, they just know Bali. LOL !!
They probably weren't informed, but it shouldn't be okay to turn the blind eye or be apathetic to problems of the world.
OSCAR will repeat this winning.... congrats joshua and anynomous indonesian director
Hopefully so.
Thank you, Herdy.
Anon Dua I'm really enthusiastic with this powerful film. I tried to share it to my friends so that they know as well.
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This doku is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Selamat dan terima kasih Joshua dan para kru Anonymouss udah membuka banyak pikiran orang-orang Indonesia. Mungkin tidak semua tetapi lebih baik satu daripada tidak sama sekali. SALUTE!!
Terima kasih mankomank. Semoga lebih banyak yang menonton, lebih banyak yang tergugah, dan semakin dekat kita dengan kebenaran, keadilan, dan rekonsiliasi.
Thank you Josh and all crew!
Wow....Luar biasa banget bangga liatnya
Congrats!
Thank you.
congratulations. For more about the issues raised by the film and to sign a peition calling for justice - go to www.change.org/saysorry.
I'm glad that appalling slander against Julian Assange "We steal Secrets" did not win.