If you complete this map on hard hardcore, you will get a MASSIVE stat boost in the form of the Fish in a bowl pet, its pretty much 5-6x the stats of nessie, and is piss easy to get, in order to get it however you have to find 2 hidden buttons on the map that opens up a secret area where you then have to play literal dance dance revolution to then open yet another door and then you interact with the fish then when you complete the map youll get it...also moonbase is interesting in that when you lose a core...you dont lose, rather everything near that core instantly dies, including defenses, and your defense unit maximum goes down, even if the core just gets HIT you lose max du, but i do highly recommend trying to complete this map
I'll add to this, giving some hints because the hints it given within the map are so terrible. Can use this instead of having to look up a yt video or something XD Moonbase secret: 1. First button is located under a staircase with greenery. This button will open the first door leading to the DDR machine. 2. Second button is located above a fan that can throw you in the air(this button, after you dance, will open the second door) 3. South of the map, a door will have opened and through that door is an open area with a DDR machine. You need to dance and basically just score a positive score to fullfill the second requirement to open the second door. It might take 1-3 tries if you've never done it before. You can dance as many times desired from first build phase to map completion. If you dance well enough, however, every build phase it can reward you with potentially a lot of mana(enough to fill your DU in the first build phase). 4. Find the secret through the open second door, click on it for a message and complete the map.
@@chikuthedarkling to add to ChikuTheDarkling's amazing explanation: best to do that on hard or lower. if its your first time, the wave timer might mess you up. (This is from personal experience 😅)
there is a hidden challenge on moonbase where you need to play dance arcade game. if you win it and after that beat the map you will get insanely good stat pet. even if done hard diffulty its good
2:57 - DD First Wave, Second Wave(Mobile), DD1, DDEternity(was taken off steam, cannot get it anymore), DDAwakened, DD1Redux(free to opt into on steam like a beta, can still play but it's not being updated anymore. DD1 but with a 6th difficulty basically, haha), DDGoing Rogue... I'm sure I missed one XD 4:35 - I rocked the book first too! I changed it to the island looking one few years ago and haven't changed it since. 6:05 - those are not asthedic. 9:18 - So moonbase has a gimmic where you need to lose all 3 cores to lose the map, but everytime a core gets hurt or is destroyed, you lose DU. When the cores get destroyed they also explode and destroy everything around them. 11:40 - Fun fact, the normal tavern itself used to have a full outside too it(looked a lot different then the tavern defense map). They had to remove it because it caused a lot of lag being that big. You can experiance it in the redux version of the game right now, however, along with almost all the older themed taverns too ^^ 26:15 - No, leveling will not help you if you cannot farm items for those levels. Items are WAY more important right now, and even more then that, using other heroes will greatly improve your gameplay. You can still do a couple of things, like moonbase hard hardcore... I've seen Dread Dungeon farmed too even, but you are hitting your limit as far as progressing as a solo squire. A single hero cannot complete all of the content in the game, you HAVE to use several characters. Moonbase will greatly benifit you if you beat it (with the secret) on at least hard hardcore difficulty. Your heroes are capable of beating it now.
Please please please start using EV buff beams!! They buff your towers life, damage, range, AND rate!!! Also auras! They make enemies lose their resistances (Strength Drain), and get slowed (Ensnare), which lets your harpoons hit them more before they reach the crystals. The aura range gets scaled with buff beams, so using them in tandem is a great combination.
For getting into later maps, the correct mindset to have is rather "what end of map rewards/survival rewards does the map drop that may be useful in some way?". The same applies even to moonbase, don't judge by loot and xp of the first wave, it's about the reward pet if you do the secret. There's other comments that already spoiled what that is and how to get it. As far as better armor goes, you indeed want to be looking for easier survivals, like exactly Dread Dungeon. The old maps you were looking at (campaign maps, tavern defense, etc) are not good anymore for armor farming for modern standards. XP is pretty good on later "old" maps, like mainly Tinkerer's Lab of course. Weapons and pets should ideally be map rewards at some point if you want to progress.
Funnily enough, tavern defense is actually considerably easier than tinkers lab, but for whatever reason tinkerers first wave is comically easy ‘\_(‘_’)_/‘ 25:48 - seems you came to this conclusion sorta kinda, but yeah, dread dungeon nmhc survival should be a great place to find upgrades with your current stats. It can also drop transcendent gear (though admittedly not very frequently lol).
Also, would definitely NOT recommend grinding all the way to level 100 for the stats… there are much better options atm. Level 83 is more than enough for the time being. (Though admittedly if you did manage to get to 100 by just doing tinkerers first wave I would be very impressed and a little intimidated by your patience).
Nmhc no map should be used aggressive towers, always just protect core less things to build gives more DU for aura stacks, buff beam aswell as using minions
There is no right or wrong way to play. There is meta, and there is what people like... and that's all ok ^^ DD1 is a game you cannot lose after all XD (More accurately, you cannot lose progression from failing).
If you complete this map on hard hardcore, you will get a MASSIVE stat boost in the form of the Fish in a bowl pet, its pretty much 5-6x the stats of nessie, and is piss easy to get, in order to get it however you have to find 2 hidden buttons on the map that opens up a secret area where you then have to play literal dance dance revolution to then open yet another door and then you interact with the fish then when you complete the map youll get it...also moonbase is interesting in that when you lose a core...you dont lose, rather everything near that core instantly dies, including defenses, and your defense unit maximum goes down, even if the core just gets HIT you lose max du, but i do highly recommend trying to complete this map
I'll add to this, giving some hints because the hints it given within the map are so terrible. Can use this instead of having to look up a yt video or something XD
Moonbase secret:
1. First button is located under a staircase with greenery. This button will open the first door leading to the DDR machine.
2. Second button is located above a fan that can throw you in the air(this button, after you dance, will open the second door)
3. South of the map, a door will have opened and through that door is an open area with a DDR machine. You need to dance and basically just score a positive score to fullfill the second requirement to open the second door. It might take 1-3 tries if you've never done it before. You can dance as many times desired from first build phase to map completion. If you dance well enough, however, every build phase it can reward you with potentially a lot of mana(enough to fill your DU in the first build phase).
4. Find the secret through the open second door, click on it for a message and complete the map.
@@chikuthedarkling to add to ChikuTheDarkling's amazing explanation:
best to do that on hard or lower. if its your first time, the wave timer might mess you up. (This is from personal experience 😅)
Hard Hardcore :3@@Zentiu
Hol’ up how u know these things bro
@@Dungeondefenders_is_sti11_cool common knowledge
Love to see a content creator playing such a classic. Top 5 Favorite Game of All Time
there is a hidden challenge on moonbase where you need to play dance arcade game. if you win it and after that beat the map you will get insanely good stat pet. even if done hard diffulty its good
2:57 - DD First Wave, Second Wave(Mobile), DD1, DDEternity(was taken off steam, cannot get it anymore), DDAwakened, DD1Redux(free to opt into on steam like a beta, can still play but it's not being updated anymore. DD1 but with a 6th difficulty basically, haha), DDGoing Rogue... I'm sure I missed one XD
4:35 - I rocked the book first too! I changed it to the island looking one few years ago and haven't changed it since.
6:05 - those are not asthedic.
9:18 - So moonbase has a gimmic where you need to lose all 3 cores to lose the map, but everytime a core gets hurt or is destroyed, you lose DU. When the cores get destroyed they also explode and destroy everything around them.
11:40 - Fun fact, the normal tavern itself used to have a full outside too it(looked a lot different then the tavern defense map). They had to remove it because it caused a lot of lag being that big. You can experiance it in the redux version of the game right now, however, along with almost all the older themed taverns too ^^
26:15 - No, leveling will not help you if you cannot farm items for those levels. Items are WAY more important right now, and even more then that, using other heroes will greatly improve your gameplay. You can still do a couple of things, like moonbase hard hardcore... I've seen Dread Dungeon farmed too even, but you are hitting your limit as far as progressing as a solo squire. A single hero cannot complete all of the content in the game, you HAVE to use several characters.
Moonbase will greatly benifit you if you beat it (with the secret) on at least hard hardcore difficulty. Your heroes are capable of beating it now.
Please please please start using EV buff beams!! They buff your towers life, damage, range, AND rate!!!
Also auras! They make enemies lose their resistances (Strength Drain), and get slowed (Ensnare), which lets your harpoons hit them more before they reach the crystals. The aura range gets scaled with buff beams, so using them in tandem is a great combination.
I just got this game on my computer. I am 15 and have played the Xbox 360 version for over 10 years. Very exited to play on pc for the first time
For getting into later maps, the correct mindset to have is rather "what end of map rewards/survival rewards does the map drop that may be useful in some way?". The same applies even to moonbase, don't judge by loot and xp of the first wave, it's about the reward pet if you do the secret. There's other comments that already spoiled what that is and how to get it.
As far as better armor goes, you indeed want to be looking for easier survivals, like exactly Dread Dungeon. The old maps you were looking at (campaign maps, tavern defense, etc) are not good anymore for armor farming for modern standards. XP is pretty good on later "old" maps, like mainly Tinkerer's Lab of course. Weapons and pets should ideally be map rewards at some point if you want to progress.
Funnily enough, tavern defense is actually considerably easier than tinkers lab, but for whatever reason tinkerers first wave is comically easy ‘\_(‘_’)_/‘
25:48 - seems you came to this conclusion sorta kinda, but yeah, dread dungeon nmhc survival should be a great place to find upgrades with your current stats. It can also drop transcendent gear (though admittedly not very frequently lol).
Also, would definitely NOT recommend grinding all the way to level 100 for the stats… there are much better options atm. Level 83 is more than enough for the time being. (Though admittedly if you did manage to get to 100 by just doing tinkerers first wave I would be very impressed and a little intimidated by your patience).
3:20 Thats the sad reality of this series, they struck gold with DD1 and everything doesnt work for me
lost quests are the TRUE end game... 0_0
moonbase is decent for armor on survival but on campaign theres no reason to do it except for the end of level rewards
Nmhc no map should be used aggressive towers, always just protect core less things to build gives more DU for aura stacks, buff beam aswell as using minions
Never underastimate spider and djiin spawns, aswell as ogre chopters thats normal on nmhc (ive not yet finished vid XD)
Also just throwing this out there, squire is absolutely Garbage in end game🤙
There is no right or wrong way to play. There is meta, and there is what people like... and that's all ok ^^ DD1 is a game you cannot lose after all XD
(More accurately, you cannot lose progression from failing).