Better Call Saul's Unanswered Questions Explained

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  • @TheVividKiWi
    @TheVividKiWi  2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

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    • @katmoon7
      @katmoon7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The ad is cringe.

    • @blitewoods
      @blitewoods ปีที่แล้ว +4

      guys stop being cringe let the man chase his bag

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blitewoods but the ad is cringe

    • @blitewoods
      @blitewoods ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RandomUser2401 and how exactly is that?

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blitewoods look at it

  • @95mudshovel
    @95mudshovel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5668

    Better Call Saul proved that the things we want aren't always satisfying when we get them. we all wanted to see Jimmy become Saul and it was so sad when it finally happened.

    • @chasecash1363
      @chasecash1363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +405

      Happy. No.
      Satisfying yes

    • @MindTheDrift
      @MindTheDrift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@chasecash1363 Absolutely agree! That is the exact word the writers always said on the Insider Pod ''What can `we do that is the most satisfying outcome''
      But I'm thinking you knew that haha!

    • @Hurrishane03
      @Hurrishane03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Brilliantly summed up! The ending is so bittersweet that I honestly didn’t know what I was feeling when it sank in. What I do know is that it was a perfect tv show.

    • @zerstoerung98
      @zerstoerung98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Not only that but we can also see that it's not always good to be shiny and fancy

    • @SpectorEuro4
      @SpectorEuro4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Hurrishane03 O M G!! I felt exactly the same!!! At the end of the day, both shows is the representation of the consequences of your actions! We saw Walt’s and Jimmy’s results of their action throughout the years. It is absolutely extremely uncomfortable how both of their lives end, however it is the most perfect ending we could get and the best result of their characters.
      Knowing that, it is so satisfying!

  • @liluziintrovert
    @liluziintrovert ปีที่แล้ว +1258

    I love how a lot of the questions are “omg how did he get all these things”
    And nobody ever considered he just bought stuff

    • @JoKiR90
      @JoKiR90 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Facts 😂😂😂

    • @lt3880
      @lt3880 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      we didnt see him go grocery shopping the entire series, this is a huge plot hole failing to explain how does he have food to eat smh

    • @harrasika
      @harrasika ปีที่แล้ว +67

      We saw him eat a lot of food. Where'd it all go!!?!?! Where did the food he ate go!?!

    • @guillermogutierrez-santana4446
      @guillermogutierrez-santana4446 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lt3880*Season 1 ceases to exist*

    • @eddymac1916
      @eddymac1916 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@harrasikainto the golden throne, I'm thinking.

  • @melmc9672
    @melmc9672 ปีที่แล้ว +714

    Bill Burr spoke on The Dan Patrick show saying that when BCS contacted him he would have done just about anything to be in the final season but his closest friend in the world was in the final stages of cancer and Bill said he just. Could not commit to the time frame they needed him available in ABQ,to me,that speaks volumes about Burr as a human

    • @basiosrasian225
      @basiosrasian225 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      That sucks, I was wondering why he never showed up in the series.

    • @MisterDutch93
      @MisterDutch93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe he was supposed to be the “Mr. X” that Jimmy and Kim hire to get inside pictures of Kevin Wachtell’s home. Burr couldn’t film at that time due to a family emergency and so they went with Steven Ogg instead.

    • @throwaway2570
      @throwaway2570 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who cares

    • @iamcuttlefish
      @iamcuttlefish หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@throwaway2570about 650 people

    • @sebastianderry
      @sebastianderry หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The 668 likes on op’s comment

  • @tombingus3984
    @tombingus3984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1887

    Biggest mystery is: had Jimmy thought anymore about that job offer?

    • @Red_Lanterns_Rage
      @Red_Lanterns_Rage ปีที่แล้ว +73

      bowling balls....

    • @zumabbar
      @zumabbar ปีที่แล้ว +212

      no, biggest mystery is what Werner Ziieegleer is doing. What is he up to, man?

    • @Messythegoat
      @Messythegoat ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@zumabbarhe got killed

    • @mr.babbles
      @mr.babbles ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@zumabbar bro... I'm so sorry

    • @FunkBastid
      @FunkBastid ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@zumabbar Michael... Is that you?

  • @tjallday95
    @tjallday95 ปีที่แล้ว +853

    Some I can think of:
    What ever happened to his college film crew? Did they ever get in trouble or questioned?
    What happened to Mike’s daughter-in-law & granddaughter?
    Was Saul being genuine in his original prison preference for his prosecution? Or was he pulling off one last scam to trick them?
    Does Jesse ever hear about Saul getting caught? What is his reaction, if he did?

    • @bl5533
      @bl5533 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      Jesse’s reaction would be interesting, as he never really had anything to meaningful with Saul/ Jimmy in breaking bad

    • @rinzler8272
      @rinzler8272 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      @@bl5533 I don't think he would care that much since he helped Walter poison Brock. I don't think Jessie would ever get over that rightfully so because that was one of Saul's lowest moments even though he didn't necessarily know what he was doing.

    • @cptexe
      @cptexe ปีที่แล้ว +122

      i think while the fans like to portray saul walt and jesse as a group in reality most of the show was just walt stringing along people to help himself so it’s likely didn’t see him as much more than another part of his shitty past

    • @flightofthebumblebee9529
      @flightofthebumblebee9529 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      @@cptexe true. It's clear Jimmy didn't even like Walt or Jesse. He and Mike shared a bond and it's sad yet hilarious at how truly upset Jimmy got when Mike had to threaten him in BrBa S3 lol.

    • @fauntleeeeroy
      @fauntleeeeroy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nothing, no, probably and who cares

  • @sergiogonzales3707
    @sergiogonzales3707 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    I think the best thing about better call Saul is how it put into even more perspective how impressive it was that Gus took out the cartel and installed himself as the only true game in town. And make it even more wild to think it all got taken down by Walter

    • @motionpotionsauce
      @motionpotionsauce ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The biggest part of BCS is showing how much Walt was in over his head and single handedly destroyed a criminal org 10x bigger than he couldve ever imagined.

    • @bigbuns7283
      @bigbuns7283 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@motionpotionsauce10x one guy is 10. Easily thousands of times bigger than Walt.😊

    • @unclekarl5219
      @unclekarl5219 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Walter AND Jesse. Even Walt knew he had no chance without him

    • @ryanduddy3043
      @ryanduddy3043 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@unclekarl5219not even like that without Jesse he has no one Walt is to old and knows no one

  • @flightofthebumblebee9529
    @flightofthebumblebee9529 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    The pinky ring and the white caddy were both nods to Marco. Marco was Jimmy's best friend and shortly before his death, Marco is shocked to learn Jimmy became a lawyer and says "Slipping Jimmy, king of the desert, riding around in a white caddy!", But he wasn't to that point yet.

    • @Chas-u1v
      @Chas-u1v 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It wasn't a "nod", it was literally his ring?

  • @jonathanweinberg2874
    @jonathanweinberg2874 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    I think the dialogue of Kim getting sworn in was never meant to be a flashback - in the dialogue she’s saying that she’ll be an upstanding citizen, while in the episode it’s teasing she almost shoots someone on the orders of a Mexican cartel boss. It’s just highlighting how much she’s changed, nothing more

    • @thomasfryer5706
      @thomasfryer5706 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I disagree. I think S6E8 would have opened with the flashback, and the briefly cut back to the apartment before the opening song. Assuming Howard was her sponsor, it could have served both the purpose you mentioned as well as showing how much their relationship changed.

    • @Chineseisntalanguageapparently
      @Chineseisntalanguageapparently ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except she only did it bc she was threatened…. Bc of what her husband got himself into

  • @MyNameIsKayser
    @MyNameIsKayser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +564

    About the Francesca's attorney question. I think it would be Ernesto. (I'm mean, Jimmy probably did knew a lot of people in the courthouse - he wasn't just friends with Oakley, of course) But going with a notable candidate and not just a hypothetical one, Ernesto would have the chance to be that one lawyer Francesca calls. We don't know what happened to him after we last saw him, so it's a possibility that he could have passed the bar and become an attorney; giving the fact that we don't have an exact idea of what he wanted to do of his life.

    • @cartoonwizardXL
      @cartoonwizardXL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I really like this theory! It gives closure to my 2 biggest unanswered question. Thank you.

    • @EnjoySackLunch
      @EnjoySackLunch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Was it ever even clear if Ernesto was in law school? He worked in the mail room.

    • @MyNameIsKayser
      @MyNameIsKayser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@EnjoySackLunch Well, like Jimmy, he could've just decided to follow that career and doing law school

    • @rbxless
      @rbxless 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      "Y-You passed the bar?"
      "Yeah, I did, Mr. Mcgill!"
      "What a SICK JOKE!"
      "Better Call Ernie!"
      **Chuck hits his head on the counter. Bravo Vince.**

    • @alexgnoffofilms
      @alexgnoffofilms ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could also be Ernesto, at that

  • @kramermccabe8601
    @kramermccabe8601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Saul was doing okay for himself even without the sandpiper money. He had lines around the building

    • @varsityathlete9927
      @varsityathlete9927 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      yes and no, its mostly small fee clients who likely don't have much money. he had unofficial very high paying clients too. sandpiper gave him millions of dollars.
      as a comparison hhm would have had numerous corporate clients in the city, each paying large retainers per month, high income clients etc.

    • @Texas_Swift
      @Texas_Swift ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@varsityathlete9927 exactly, Sandpiper money was clean too and allowed him the extravagances. He couldn’t do that with the money from his cartel money.

    • @annenelson5656
      @annenelson5656 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, the Sandpiper money pushed him over the top letting him legit acquire the car, and the house. That way he’d pay the taxes and all above board. Cartel money bought the rest.

    • @patpat8727
      @patpat8727 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. The line of idiots outside the office was basically just a way to launder cartel money for himself.@@varsityathlete9927

    • @Matt-mq7ge
      @Matt-mq7ge 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Texas_Swifthe knows how to clean it especially with a lump sum from sandpiper

  • @cineaste485
    @cineaste485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Naming his loan out company Ice Station Zebra in order to cash the check from all that time ago would be the most petty, but mostly funny, cash grab of the series

    • @jhellert1
      @jhellert1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The only problem is that after 6 months a check is "stale dated" and considered void.

    • @cineaste485
      @cineaste485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@jhellert1 Saul has his ways hahah. He could still make it happen

    • @rwbyab7423
      @rwbyab7423 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@cineaste485 *smudges the year on the date and insists it's recent* Yeah I could see him pulling it off

  • @gabebarnes2254
    @gabebarnes2254 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I hope Ernesto has a happy life, he truly deserves all the best

  • @BadBoiFilms
    @BadBoiFilms ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The best part of the sandpiper money is chuck didn’t care about it. He was coming after jimmy’s law license and didn’t care that jimmy would be a millionaire down the road

  • @Tripod9648
    @Tripod9648 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Not everything should be seen on screen because not everything can be added. We’re not watching a autobiography of Jimmy McGill, we’re watching the rise and fall of Saul Goodman. But ultimately i like how the show manages to tie everything together so nicely.

  • @rafaelherrerafuller342
    @rafaelherrerafuller342 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    21:35 I think it was Ernesto, he is probably a lawyer by the time BB happend.

  • @nouche
    @nouche ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’m just… using Caldera’s book to explain _pretty much_ everything. I’m saying that’s how Jimmy met another attorney, and also where he got Kuby from.

  • @michaelreich4827
    @michaelreich4827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    My question is what was the original plan for Jeff? He was so menacing at first, but the replacement was a goofy Saul fanboy/mama's boy. It feels like that affected how the Gene episodes were put together.

    • @chasecash1363
      @chasecash1363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Jeff is my biggest problem in BCS which when one side character is my biggest problem there’s not many problems.

    • @teopazdrijan1008
      @teopazdrijan1008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@chasecash1363 I still don't believe that the script was unchanged after replacing Harvey, and if they did that menacing part with Jeff just so they subvert our expectations, that's one of the lamest ways you could do that.

    • @rustyyy1k
      @rustyyy1k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      @@teopazdrijan1008 I think he was only menacing because of Gene’s building paranoia tbh

    • @mayonnaise3959
      @mayonnaise3959 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rustyyy1k nah he was scary without genes paranoia

    • @andreseh87
      @andreseh87 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Y’all still crying about that?

  • @baronvg
    @baronvg ปีที่แล้ว +188

    To add to the idea of Ernie & Omar joining up to open their own law firm, I want to believe that Christy Esposito, the young girl who didn’t get a scholarship at the end of season 4 eventually became a lawyer and was hired by those two lol

    • @thisd294
      @thisd294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      she was seen pregnant at the firm kim volunteered for and it seemed like some domestic violence to probably highlight how the bad influence of her mother ruined her life

    • @basiosrasian225
      @basiosrasian225 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@thisd294Different character.

    • @Kevin-cl2ez
      @Kevin-cl2ez 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ?​@@thisd294

    • @sholomoone
      @sholomoone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thisd294 that was a whole different person

  • @AsuranFish
    @AsuranFish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I always saw Christie Esposito as a possibility for Francesca’s lawyer…

  • @lessonmet5291
    @lessonmet5291 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As for Lyle, he was the co-manager for a restaurant, and he was pretty young. He could have simply gone to school or got an opportunity elsewhere.

  • @zerstoerung98
    @zerstoerung98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Maybe Kim being sworn in is just what she thought after Howard got killed, like, that's not why I became a lawyer, and maybe it's even the moment when she decides to quit that life and go to self-punishing-mode. I think if you see it this way it's a great addition and kind of foreshadowing.

  • @fsanmiguel666
    @fsanmiguel666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    If the "Rise of Gus" is ever made, I hope it takes place mostly between the years 2005-2007, just so that we could know what happens between that missing gap between Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad, and how long it actually took to finish construction of the underground meth lab when Lalo was finally taken care of

    • @SuzakuX
      @SuzakuX ปีที่แล้ว +30

      If they were to do a prequel series about Gus I'm sure it'd be more focused on his time in Chile and his early years getting involved in Cartel activity with Max. Maybe cutting back and forth via flashbacks. Though I don't know that I really want that show, as it'd almost certainly require recasting Giancarlo. Personally I kinda wish they'd do some books set in the _Breaking Bad_ universe, and I think that'd be a great way to tell Gus's story.

    • @sunsetman22
      @sunsetman22 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@SuzakuX books is definitely the way to go. they should let the live action side rest, they've already made two of the most iconic and well made series television has ever seen, plus a Netflix movie.

    • @prodpoob
      @prodpoob ปีที่แล้ว

      boring.

    • @chefboiarby304
      @chefboiarby304 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SuzakuX If they had cast someone for a younger Gus, I'd probably go with the guy who plays a young Stan Edgar in a season 3 flashback of The Boys.

    • @george619
      @george619 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It wouldn't be called "The Rise of Gus" then would it? By then he's already a multi millionaire with loads of chains of restaurants for the cartels meth business. The "Rise of Gus" Would be more likely in his early years trying to get the Cartels trust and mixed between his time in Chile which is extremely vague due to Gus making everything about him disappear. He even asked Mike to see if he could fine anything about himself back then.

  • @DJMotorMouth713
    @DJMotorMouth713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Better Call Saul content is an instant click. Can’t get enough of this show. Hate that it’s over but I’m happy that it happened

  • @guitarslinger213
    @guitarslinger213 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How about that switch he flipped in his office at Davis and Main? I was hoping it would lead to a dripping condenser on the roof or something, and the finale would be the roof caving in on Erin Brill's office

  • @splursh2133
    @splursh2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I personally believe that Suzanne Ericson was Francesca's attorney. Although they weren't really on good terms, she did reach out to Kim about Lalo in order to give Jimmy an out from suspicion for representing him willfully, so it might've made Jimmy think in good faith that he should appoint Francesca to Suzanne. Also, she was the one to inform Kim about Jimmy giving false info to the court about Kim's involvement with Howard's death in the series finale, so there might be a connection there.

    • @TheVividKiWi
      @TheVividKiWi  2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I could see Suzanne wanting to represent Francesca in order to further the hiesenberg case, (especially after seeing her in el camino and the American greed special,) but I feel like she’d be working against the main character’s interests.
      In bcs s6 she was just playing up being “good cop” to Kim in a good cop bad cop scenario against ADA Khalil as a fishing trip just to try to get Jimmy to talk. She was only pretending to be the “good guy” imo. She never liked Jimmy, and only shows an interest in him to get information out of him.

    • @eeixen
      @eeixen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Suzanne Ericson is a prosecuting attorney who’s office is involved in the Heisenberg case. Francesca needs a defense attorney.

    • @CommanderLongJohn
      @CommanderLongJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      "Tell *him* Jimmy sent ya"

    • @SuzakuX
      @SuzakuX ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ericson was a prosecutor working for the DA, so she wouldn't be doing criminal defense.

    • @CommanderLongJohn
      @CommanderLongJohn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuzakuX Lmfao so was Bill Oakley buddy . . . Do you even realize how common thats been in the history of attorneys too?

  • @kendiggs
    @kendiggs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm so glad you're still making videos exploring various aspects of this show. I download every one of them and watch/listen to them frequently.

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    I think they have different scripts for each Jeff because it seems unbelievable that Don Harvey’s version would end up the same way as we got in the final cut. He seems too menacing to be a goofball.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Could have just been an act

    • @TheVividKiWi
      @TheVividKiWi  2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Apparently the script was already written before the recasting and they didn’t change it at all for the new actor, so Don Harvey would’ve played the exact same part.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@TheVividKiWi Okay, another loose end. What’s the point of Kim’s backstory from Nebraska if it’s not gonna payoff with Gene in anyway shape or form? Gene being in Nebraska wasn’t even because he wanted to find Kim (he already knew she’s in Florida). Ed selected it for him. Is the whole Kim Nebraska backstory happened just to subvert our expectations?

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@nont18411 Two people can be from the same place.

    • @MrAaaaazzzzz00009999
      @MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheVividKiWi you should remember the BB/BCS writers tend to alter their scripts to fit what the actors are capable of. its not guaranteed don harvey wouldve played that same part.

  • @stevemichael652
    @stevemichael652 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Marco tells Jimmy “you’re a lawyer!? You gotta be driving around the desert in a white caddy ripping people off”
    Jimmy got the white caddy because Marco , his best friend who died, envisioned it for him

  • @davuddacic3737
    @davuddacic3737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    You've kept me sane some way or another the last 12 months. Your BCS Content gave me the a strong feeling of sensation, much like talking to a good friend about things you both thoroughly enjoy. Here's to the Universe, this Show is one for eternity .
    One Love!

    • @VinelandVinny
      @VinelandVinny ปีที่แล้ว

      You are way too invested in this you must be a sad little creature 😂

    • @flightofthebumblebee9529
      @flightofthebumblebee9529 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I felt the same way LOL. It's quite a ride since I started watched BrBa way back in season 1 winter of 2008. I was like 26. I am 40 now. So much has changed but the BrBa universe has been there for 14 years of my life. 😲

  • @ShadowProductionsXD
    @ShadowProductionsXD ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wonder how Saul must have felt when he found out Mike died

    • @Chas-u1v
      @Chas-u1v 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We saw he didn't care much

  • @abimanyuvijay3222
    @abimanyuvijay3222 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I still have questions about Nacho’s death. Why did Gus put him in the motel and give the address to Bolsa and risk Nacho being caught alive? If it’s because he wanted him dead, why couldn’t Gus have just told the mercenaries to kill him along with Lalo? That way he could’ve avoided suspicion from the cartel.

    • @toddrobert384
      @toddrobert384 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He changed his mind, decided to cut him loose

    • @Musictroper76
      @Musictroper76 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That is true, Nacho was a loose end. It would have been better for Gus to have the mercenaries' kill Nacho. He would have to face Mike, so that might have been what stopped him.

    • @TAG152gaming
      @TAG152gaming ปีที่แล้ว +45

      If Nacho was also killed by the hit squad the cartel would have likely deduced it was Gus, Nacho surviving the hit on Lalo gives Gus the scapegoat he needs to maintain plausible deniability, even if Bolsa and Eladio have their suspicions

    • @ryanveyr9195
      @ryanveyr9195 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TAG152gaming this is good reasoning, me like

    • @kaelaelliott4237
      @kaelaelliott4237 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it's because of how Gus orchestrates, how it happened was exactly how Gus wanted it to happen. Someone with a voice and a pass making one last bullet-proof defense on his behalf, before (very very sadly) "cleaning up his own mess" and dying anyways. Our beloved Nacho was squeezed till the last drop.

  • @videosbaisam
    @videosbaisam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I was always hoping ernie could be the lawyer Jimmy sent Francesa to. It would answer two questions if Ernie got a law degree during breaking bad

    • @badgirlhollywood9741
      @badgirlhollywood9741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s black they didn’t think he mattered

    • @willymillynilly4501
      @willymillynilly4501 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@badgirlhollywood9741 …Bro what. I *heavily* doubt that’s the reason. Just because he was black doesn’t mean that was the reason he was pushed aside. A lot of characters with potential just happen to be forgotten about and pushed aside to make room for the main story. This isn’t exclusive to BCS either.

    • @badgirlhollywood9741
      @badgirlhollywood9741 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willymillynilly4501 hahahahhahah it’s true

    • @willymillynilly4501
      @willymillynilly4501 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badgirlhollywood9741 What’s true?

    • @badgirlhollywood9741
      @badgirlhollywood9741 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willymillynilly4501 Black characters always get the short side of shit

  • @nateloomis5391
    @nateloomis5391 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One unanswered question I have:
    How in the world did Fring and company get an excavator and heavy equipment under the laundry mat? Isn’t there only one way in there with the metal stairs under the laundry machine?

    • @zombeevee5483
      @zombeevee5483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man who knows, they're engineers maybe they dismantled them and reassembled them down there? Good question

    • @pamelapastor5380
      @pamelapastor5380 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There’s an elevator

    • @FireStriker_
      @FireStriker_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pamelapastor5380it hadn’t been installed at the time

  • @sageseraph5035
    @sageseraph5035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    For the shot in the finale teaser, they mentioned it on the insider podcast or something. Pretty sure Schnauz said it was gonna be a shot in the desert and Gene would be flying over it on his way back to Albuquerque.

  • @crackknack
    @crackknack ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I like the idea of combining two unanswered questions from this video, I like to think that Ernesto and Omar did become lawyers and did open up their own law firm, and they are the lawyers Saul told Francesca to call

    • @nardopol0
      @nardopol0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It would track since he never met Jimmy as Saul

  • @ConnerTheEsquire
    @ConnerTheEsquire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A small but perfectly valid unanswered question I have is what happened to Jimmy’s watch? Throughout the entirety of Better Call Saul, he wears that gold Mercury watch. Cut to Breaking Bad: it’s gone.

    • @yahboymilk4032
      @yahboymilk4032 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He got a new fucking watch, whadda you breakin my balls for heh?

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Out of all of these, I think the only one that could not be implicitly answered is Francesca's attorney. Jimmy ends the main timeline of BCS despised by most of the courthouse regulars and known as Saul, and in the phone call he doesn't know that Oakley is a defense attorney now and Francesca tells him. We never see anyone who would know Jimmy as Jimmy keep any sort of relationship that he could leverage for Francesca.

  • @ThatTattooGuyOfficial
    @ThatTattooGuyOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No matter the holes, this story has been captivating from day one. Awesome break down!

  • @lordtachanka85
    @lordtachanka85 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They probably kept gus's past a mystery in case they wanted to make a show about him in the future

    • @THEBIGGESTSCUMBAG
      @THEBIGGESTSCUMBAG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TBH

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While it's over, the Gus story would be great to revisit one more time. Young Stan from The Boys would be perfect for Younger Gus.

  • @cineaste485
    @cineaste485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ooooh. I bet Pryce eventually gets caught stealing from work again, gets fired then convicted, gets represented by Saul, and then then he has to buy the laser tag place to replace his job and starts to launder money since he wouldn’t really have the funds to start it up himself.

  • @metalbrock57
    @metalbrock57 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Maybe the attorney was that young female associate for Davis & Main, Erin Brill. She was a very capable attorney as a 2nd year associate & probably would have risen to partner or started her own firm by the time of that BB scene

  • @nerdude360
    @nerdude360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I know a lot of people thought that originally Saul said "Tell him Jimmy sent you", but I think it's actually "tell THEM Jimmy sent you" And so this implies he just kind of pointed her in the direction of a firm. I always thought it was strange that Rich specifically names the law firm that HHM is turning into, saying it was called Brookner Partners. Why would they specifically mention the name of what HHM was turning into if it wasn't for it to be used for something later on? I think that that's supposed to be the "Them" Saul said in the Francesca scene, as he knew a lot of people at HHM, a few of them would actually know who he was. But thats just my theory.

    • @WhiteyWalter
      @WhiteyWalter ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You didn't get it. Let me tell you something. You were never gonna get it. They dangle these things in front of you, they tell you you've got a chance -- but it's a lie. 'Cause they already made up their minds. They knew what they were going to do before you walked in the door. You made a mistake and they’re not forgetting it, not ever. Far as they’re concerned, your mistake is who you are. It's all you are. I’m not just talking about this scholarship -- I’m talking about everything.

    • @nerdude360
      @nerdude360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WhiteyWalter why did you copy paste the kristy esposito speech LOL

    • @nerdude360
      @nerdude360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WhiteyWalter i mean i obviously know that it was also to distance themselves from howards name, but it just felt really specific to me... and its the only firm that would actually know or care about jimmy at that point.

    • @gots0359
      @gots0359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nerdude360 i always thought that part was just to show how soul-crushing and absent HHM became. Like the brookners partners are something you have never heard of, never will hear of, with such lazy ass name that it just show reality.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nerdude360
      A very plausible theory.
      Jimmy would presumably still have many friends there, having worked for HHM for such a long time.

  • @jamessweeny9674
    @jamessweeny9674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Incredible video. We actually do see when the vet gives up his black book. It’s when he’s telling Jimmy & Kim that’s he’s going to “focus on his passion” of being a vet

  • @h.g.warrender5529
    @h.g.warrender5529 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the attorney Jimmy set Francesca up with could have been Ernesto or Omar, since you mentioned the possibility of them still practicing law. It also could have been Erin, given that she didn’t seem to outright hate Jimmy to the degree Cliff did by their last meeting, but given her relationship to Davis and Main I think Ernie or Omar is more likely.

  • @valenciasainz
    @valenciasainz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can only imagine Saul wanting to buy the Statue Of Liberty and Mrs. Kettleman getting furious and saying "$10,000" and Saul going "Okay." (Cause he has so much money)

    • @NitpickingNerd
      @NitpickingNerd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He learned that from Lalo

  • @Ziolek.2000
    @Ziolek.2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I still click super fast on your better call Saul videos even though the show is over. I really would wish for more but all good things must come to an end once. Thank you for these amazing vids

    • @jluchette
      @jluchette ปีที่แล้ว

      Think of how “The Simpsons” would be remembered if they ended the series after seven(ish) seasons. That was unequivocally some of the best television ever made. Now the show has a different legacy, holds all manner of records, but is a pathetic shell of its original self.
      Yes, all good things must come to an end. What’s important is that they’re great while they’re here.

  • @markokuhar670
    @markokuhar670 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:46 Saul owns every kind of classic car. He has triples of the barracuda, roadrunner, and the nova. Triples is best.

  • @ReelStory
    @ReelStory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I really REALLY expected Lalo to kill Lyle in some sort of way to where his body would be found publicly to mess with Gus even further and tie him to scheduled things such as a funeral and all that to where Lalo could make necessary moves

    • @sunsetman22
      @sunsetman22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that would've probably exposed Gus as a cartel asset and probably would've ended up uncovering the whole operation. it would've been overkill from Lalo

  • @sageseraph5035
    @sageseraph5035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like to think that Francesca’s attorney was Omar since we never see what happened to him and he always liked Jimmy.
    Edit: Wait? Omar? I meant Earnie! Omar I’m sure still works for Davis and Main.

    • @thomcolmer6564
      @thomcolmer6564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I knew what you meant, despite the error.

    • @dead_yami
      @dead_yami 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like to think Omar and Oakley met and fell in love

    • @sageseraph5035
      @sageseraph5035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dead_yami He switched sides lol

  • @profwaggstaff
    @profwaggstaff ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I doubt the Kettlemans had the Statue of Liberty custom made, being that they were just getting by in a trailer. Perhaps Saul just ordered one from Amazon like they did.

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks หลายเดือนก่อน

      My thought as well. Easier just to yell at Francesca to order one.

  • @mixmastercj100
    @mixmastercj100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omar and Ernesto’s law firm is cannon. That’s my statement and I’m sticking to it FTW.

    • @mixmastercj100
      @mixmastercj100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously tho awesome video! Made me smirk to hear about Danny

  • @goodmaro
    @goodmaro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The pay phone scene made me laugh because of the meta-humor in it, making fun of the process of the audience experiencing the show.

  • @thatbobusguy
    @thatbobusguy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Bill Burr fan, and a bigger BB/BCS fan....I would watch a mini series on Kubi!

  • @avgjoe-cz7cb
    @avgjoe-cz7cb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BB and BCS are both a Master Piece in and of themselves.

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't think Ernesto was ever a lawyer. Its never stated that he ever got out of the HHM mail room like Jimmy and Kim did.

  • @ravidphill
    @ravidphill ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould should do an AMA, and give some answers to these questions.

  • @bambulkomccloud3983
    @bambulkomccloud3983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe Jimmy gave Francesca the card of Ernesto, who is now a proper lawyer 🙂

  • @rogerrubio9540
    @rogerrubio9540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    watching right now during my lunch ! thanks kiwi!

  • @mma6055
    @mma6055 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With gus frings actor getting more popular as of late and with that probably being the most burning question of the shows fans I wouldn't be surprised if we get another spinoff explaining his whole background and who he really is

    • @KadenHartley
      @KadenHartley ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah it couldn't work because he's too old now to try and do a new series of a younger gus. It would have to be a different actor, but it just wouldn't work without his actor playing him. It was already noticeable in better call Saul but you could look pass it. But if you do a series with a 15-20 year younger gus, I just don't think it could work

  • @batgurrl
    @batgurrl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks Kiwi for keeping these BCS things coming

  • @KimboKG14
    @KimboKG14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love a comedy spinoff during the golden years of saul goodman as a lawyer of the underworld.

  • @poggerwhite
    @poggerwhite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My man Kiwi out here flexing with sponsorships now. Much deserved!

  • @iamber34
    @iamber34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sauls Cadillac made an appearance in S1E1. He brought it from someone at the court house (i remembered that from a table read)

  • @gots0359
    @gots0359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I won't be too surprised if Vince next show about Kim will also put Ernesto and Omar as main characters

  • @fatmouse9257
    @fatmouse9257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    im to sick to really express it and type out a paragraph but dang bro i love ur content i feel like my understanding of the BB universe is so high because of ur videos, theyre also so entertaining. plz keep making vids i dont think ive missed one in like half a year

  • @crn2ut
    @crn2ut ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For me, the biggest mystery about Gus’s past in Chile wasn’t in itself a mystery. I mean, for all that was going on during the Pinochet years, it is very easy to theorize why some high ranking military officer would need to go into exile. Rather, what was it that got the attention and concern of a largely regional cartel way up in Northern Mexico? And I am not even referring to Eladio’s warning to Gus after Max was executed, but rather Lalo making the comment to Bolsa suggesting rather specific knowledge (“todos negocios?”). It is difficult, at least for me, to plausibly imagine where the interests of two such different and distant groups could overlap, specifically why the cartel would care about what is presumed to be a far away political intrigue. I really thought we were going to find out more after Lalo said that, but even later learning Peter Schuler was also involved still did not even hint at the cartel angle on this.

    • @guillermogutierrez-santana4446
      @guillermogutierrez-santana4446 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gus wouldn’t have been in the military. No way Pinochet would’ve decorated a black gay guy. I think he was originally a freedom fighter would was talked into selling drugs by Max.

    • @rustyshackleford4670
      @rustyshackleford4670 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@guillermogutierrez-santana4446
      Makes a lot of sense what you say. I agree.

  • @makingitlookeasy
    @makingitlookeasy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why was Howard's wife mad at him ?

  • @glumOr
    @glumOr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Jimmy told Marco he's now a lawyer, Marco told him "you must be driving throuht the desert in a white Cadillac, making bank".
    That's where the white cadillac idea came from for Saul.

  • @lbabytutorials4852
    @lbabytutorials4852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s crazy to think Walt & Jesse we’re working in a meth lab with dead bodies under the floor

    • @fadeskywards1245
      @fadeskywards1245 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...and having absolutely no idea about it.

  • @SWOL
    @SWOL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gus, a joker origin story and a two face death

  • @zman890
    @zman890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was watching a British crime show called Annika. One of the characters quotes Chuck’s “let justice be done.” They substitute “though the world might end” for though the heavens may fall.

    • @Joel-ik3sz
      @Joel-ik3sz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fīat jūstitia ruat cælum is a Latin legal phrase, meaning "Let justice be done though the heavens fall." It was coined in the 19th century, funnily enough by a man also named Charles.

  • @sihlesoldati5593
    @sihlesoldati5593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oh happy day 🌞😍
    Thank you for the video!

  • @NR-ur1dn
    @NR-ur1dn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My head cannon is the lawyer he sends Francesca to is Erin from Davis & Main

    • @crazyaces4042
      @crazyaces4042 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah considering he hated her so much. lol

  • @rogerrubio9540
    @rogerrubio9540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks!Kiwi! you tha best!

    • @TheVividKiWi
      @TheVividKiWi  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the support!

  • @wildmanofthewynooch7028
    @wildmanofthewynooch7028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They should do a series on the kettlemens as money launders for Saul.

    • @vistalover9607
      @vistalover9607 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, that’ll be a funny alternate reality. Those Kettlemen are super untrustworthy and terrible at their craft. 😊

  • @mariafaccio8667
    @mariafaccio8667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The steem could mean that Jimmy is back. The car represented him after all.

  • @themolecularman9312
    @themolecularman9312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the statue of liberty blowup - I just always thought Saul saw it and liked the idea and decided to simply get the same one for his office. sure he could have purchased it from the Kettlemens but it's not like they had a unique or rare item that can't be found for purchase in general that it had to be that particular one we see at his eventual office.

  • @kenetik13
    @kenetik13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My personal favorite is how H.G. Wells book The Time Machine relates to the philosophy of the show

    • @SISKCERTWaJaVlogs
      @SISKCERTWaJaVlogs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And the last episode really brings it all together
      Each choice builds a road to build our fate. The big but unsustainable alluring parts of it is an illusion if you believed it would make you fully content
      Even with his charming personality, he is repeatidly haunted and broken by his demons and it comes to show in omaha until he accepts his humility and stops conning everyone by being honest in court

  • @seanhart4251
    @seanhart4251 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I imagined that Gus had joined Pinochet's military junta in Chile and worked his way to becoming an officer, hence the "Generalissimo" comment by Hector. He probably worked his way towards intelligence and was very good at it. Then he used his influence to make a new identity and invented a reason for him to spy on the Mexican Cartel. He enters Mexico with Max with the intention of using Eladio's cartel to found his own branch of meth production, using Madrigal as distribution and a secret branch of money from Europe. This backfires because Eladio knows Gus is a plant from Chile (but doesn't know his bigger plan) and he kills Max. Eladio still allows Gus to work for him under Bolsa's supervision and gives him more and more of a pass because he's a top earner, but reins him in with Bolsa's death.

  • @GuitarGuru357-rz9eb
    @GuitarGuru357-rz9eb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thought it was cool that Chuck mentioned Carol Burnett in an earlier season, then she came along to play Marion at the end of the series. Gotta love that irony.

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I always appreciate the videos you make on this show. They’re always interesting, I hope you’re doing well. Please take care and keep up the great work!

  • @M_Baker9ersFan
    @M_Baker9ersFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks for this video. Not seeing Saul get his Cadillac was one of the biggest teases that never got paid off. Some of these unanswered questions could have been answered in a montage. But oh well. Still an awesome show.
    PS - I really wanted to see Tuco take over the family business.

    • @SuzakuX
      @SuzakuX ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean "he bought a caddy" isn't exactly something important to show to viewers. One of the biggest problems prequels have is trying to assign a meaning to every fucking thing you know about a character. I'm glad that they largely glossed over the _trappings_ of the Saul persona and instead focused on the person underneath it all.

  • @SevenJetC
    @SevenJetC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think that blow up statue is one of a kind thing, he might have just bought it anywhere...

  • @kyoshiro13
    @kyoshiro13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ernie was not wrongfully fired. Chuck was a dick and Ernie was a great friend, but I hate to say it but if I had an employee who twice protected someone who, through fraud, cost my company perhaps a million in sales, he would be gone no matter how nice he was. Violation of the confidentially agreement is MASSIVE grounds for him being fired.

    • @ffliegerbombe5163
      @ffliegerbombe5163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its understandable, but Chuck wanted Ernie to tell this Jimmy. It was his plan.

  • @Rubycon99
    @Rubycon99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a feeling he compensated the Kettlemans pretty well for the statue. There seemed to be a little soft spot he had for them.

  • @r.plante2916
    @r.plante2916 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK, who is going to edit both series and the movie, with all the little flashbacks and flashforwards, into one big chronological epic.

  • @SPFLDAngler
    @SPFLDAngler ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He probably just bought his own inflatable…

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:55 Bahahah you used the infamous "I need to see your balls" exchange

    • @TheVividKiWi
      @TheVividKiWi  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hector’s spoken lines during bcs s2-3 are iconic lmao, my favorite will always be “da boss can sock me”

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheVividKiWi "fiwdee tousend Anna gunn is yours"

  • @christianmurray9852
    @christianmurray9852 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My biggest confusion with BCS was how Mike was a Gus guy all the way. In BB it seems like he always worked for Saul and knew Gus. In BCS he was Gus’s number one guy, but rewatching BB, it seems like he occasionally finds out information for Gus but really works for Saul. A bit confusing. Overall, BCS did an amazing job and tying everything together.

    • @LiilYogurt
      @LiilYogurt ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I think that's one of those things that changes in the 2 year gap between the end of BCS and start of BB, Mike was Gus' guy, but once Gus' operation started running more and more smoothly after Lalo and Hector were out of the picture, Mike started taking a backseat in Gus' operation and started taking more odd jobs for Saul, eventually becoming his main guy to call when he needed a job done.

    • @guillermogutierrez-santana4446
      @guillermogutierrez-santana4446 ปีที่แล้ว

      Walter White also thought that Mike was Sauls guy and was confused to learn he was actually Gus’ guy.

  • @ross1880
    @ross1880 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how Saul used the statue of liberty blowup for his own office.

  • @rhettgedies7467
    @rhettgedies7467 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    21:36 It's obviously Saul's mysterious business partner Anonymous Lee, whom Walter and Saul fight about in Breaking Bad. Vince played it really cool only briefly mentioning this character a single time. Bravo!

  • @triforcewielder8500
    @triforcewielder8500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the video brother!

  • @malikschulz8508
    @malikschulz8508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like to think that ernesto was francescas attorney

  • @Cichyhub
    @Cichyhub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ernesto is my favorite small side character

  • @kek13223
    @kek13223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Howard sees Jimmy grab Kim with a frightened look on his face
    inner monologue: "Aha, I've done it, I've scared them. Mission accomplished...THE ONE PIEEECE! THE ONE PIECE IS REAAALLL""
    Howard: "Who are you?"

  • @LalitoTV
    @LalitoTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just like Marie's kleptomaniac impulses, both Ernesto and Layle felt like they were building up to something, but they just disappeared

    • @ZenShroud1
      @ZenShroud1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the culmination of her klepto was her trying to steal Holly after slapping Skyler in BB episode 510.

    • @LalitoTV
      @LalitoTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZenShroud1 I feel like that scene would've worked just fine without the buildup, it didn't feel like an unreasonable reaction all things considered. Just a worried family member trying to protect the innocent, not to mention it was in her mind because Skyler had sent her children with Marie before. Besides, there weren't really any consequences for Marie or Hank after that attempt that were directly caused by Marie trying to steal Holly.

    • @LalitoTV
      @LalitoTV ปีที่แล้ว

      Just saying, If that was really the culmination, man that was disappointing.

    • @superstarrunner
      @superstarrunner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LalitoTV i felt like her being klepto was just another secret skyler didnt know about(see walts secrets) OR the way hank reacted to that lead skyler being "fine" with what walter did

  • @M_Baker9ersFan
    @M_Baker9ersFan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just binge watched the whole series again. Saw several other unanswered questions. Still an awesome show

  • @EuphoricDream88
    @EuphoricDream88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i knew the difference between the jimmy we saw and than saul. what didnt hit me till the final episode was how different saul from breaking bad was than jimmy. even with the flashbacks it felt weird felt like someone else until a little bit after the finale. from watching breaking bad first and saul being a minor but important character i never really thought about the insane difference between saul and jimmy till rewatching the flashbacks and thinking bout the ending. like thebflashbacks at first were a genuine shock to me because it didnt feel like saul/jimmy i knew until i remembered who he was from breaking bad

  • @realthursty4953
    @realthursty4953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The statue of liberty thing is not such a mystery. He could have found out where the Kettlemans got theirs and got one for himself. There's nothing that says it was the exact same one, he could have just gotten the idea from the Kettlemans.