@@johnathanphelps6819 yea i didnt see shocking so i thought itd be a troll video kinda like his shorts where he just gives a rage bait opinion and trolls
@@boardzyMousepads in general are a Psyop. PIECE OF COLORED CLOTH $79!!! Like bro you could probably convince an Indonesian man in a street shop to make you one for free by telling him a story
@@boardzy glass was a fad in early 2000s... Icemat made them and was bought out by steelseries in mid 2000's. Also there was Steelseries i-1 and i-2 pads (ice series) over 10 years ago. Ask Takasta (gaming mouse legend guy) i think he used to review them. I believe they were very small in size compared to todays standard, but QCK large size still existed back then. Patent must have expired recently, but I dont remember the last time steelseries had a glass pad. perhaps Steelseries bought icemat to acquire the patent and remain large in the smaller pc gaming market back then.
@@boardzy You mean you agree that it doesn't make a difference so there's no point in changing it because 0.3 in actuation travel distance won't change anything for anyone. Some of the best players in the world that use 80HE keyboard don't care and aren't complaining, so its very obviously a non issue. No need to make it into one.
I swear the glass era has made him go schizo. Also for anyone who hates stem wobble. The Geon Raw HE switches have the lowest stem wobble I've seen in any HE switch and they sound great too as a bonus. I'm still rocking my 60HE because I enjoy the layout more and I'm not THAT schizo yet that I feel like I need 8k polling.
Competition is good. There are other small gripes I have with the 60HE like the spacebar and the way Lekkers feel in general. Otherwise it has been one of the most solid boards I've owned vs. my apex pro which randomly crashes and turned into a rattly mess over time as all the LEDs also slowly failed.
i have the wooting 80he and i also have the rog falchion ace hfx and i actually prefer the rog because of the minimal key wobble and the better sounding switches.
I wish these companies would make simpler colors like just a white or just a black would be more appealing to more people, also gateron jade pros make RGB look trash you wont be able to use certain colors because of the green tint on the housing and stem
I have a question that doesnt have anything to do with the video (great video tho!). I have a xlite v3 es and I dont really like the ergo shape that much and im thinking about buying the lamzu atlantis v2 4k or the hitscan hyperlight. My question is, which one of those mice should i buy and do they have good specs to keep up with all other competition?
I'd like to see better switches, better stem stabilization, less wobble, speed switch option with lower total travel. Also improved HE raw data like Geonworks Raptor switches. Also proper TKL.
I'm sure this is going to sound blasphemous, but I pre ordered the Wooting 80 he more because of the raw metal case option than the hall effect switches.
wooting charging 220 euros for 80he is pretty dumb considering you can get he keyboards that are equally as good feature and sound wise for half the price
It's true for every product nowadays in any category No company can compete or recover the RND costs because China will launch an updated version 1 day later that costs 1/10th of the price
@@goochipoochie True. I exclusively use chinese peripherals cuz I can't be arsed to spend 100+ on a mouse from the big western brands. The only thing lacking from these chinese companies is marketing. The western people do not know these 'hidden gems' exist, so they buy what's most recognizable.
IMO Wooting not being readily available make them completely worthless to the masses. Is a niche product and most competitive games are starting to ban them.
When I first saw your channel name I thought that you're keyboard person because you know, BOARDzy and keyBOARDs but yeah. I wonder how you came up with this name
You can see the numbers displayed while you press the switch in the software. I agree lots of things are placebo, but low deadzone is as easy to notice as low actuation point
@@boardzy Lowest Wooting Rapid Trigger setting used to say .1mm but they changed the text to .15mm since they thought that was a more accurate description. Nothing changed about the setting, only the text.
@@theterriblepuddle1830 Im not talking about rapid trigger, I'm talking about deadzone or "initial actuation point" which I think is a concept a lot of people aren't familiar with
It feels really good, apparently it tests better than both hm80/80he but I prefer 80% size and had some issues with my settings staying applied on that board
Pointless features, the jump from mechanical keyboards to hall effect hasn't made gamers noticeably better. You only have to look at the pro scene and everything still looks the same. There's no reason for these products to cost more than $150
Looks like you upset the wooting fanboys but I noticed you’ve remained the same since I subbed 3 years ago. You seemingly give genuine opinions and haven’t turned into an intentional shill like optimum
No rgb, no media buttons or knob. Gimmick hall effect to stay on the same rank of whatever you are playing, but still pay the hall effect tax. Hard pass
Boardzy you know how small is 0.01mm? Only reason they are. Not implementing it keyboard would actuate from little shake like hitting keyboard with mouse or with stem woble. So only chinnese boards that could compete on same lvl with wooting is ez60 only if they cook their software a little bit more.
Wooting used to be the best, but now it's more like finalmouse, 80% hype 20% actual product. The Chinese caught up and leap frogged, anyone looking for HE keyboard should consider Chinese premium brands. (Also why is the zowie gsr rouge on your desk? that pad is far inferior than any of your other pads)
think boardzy is bandwagoning the current meta where people use certain peripherals to form opinions & then publishing those on video platforms like youtube, not 100% certain tho
@@floodyNumb Eh things change. The magnetic keyboard scene is on fire atm. Lots of innovations and improvements every few months. You can get better performing and built keyboards for a fraction of one Wooting and software to match. The Lekker switches in the Wooting are vastly inferior to the ones in newer high performance keyboards, as are the internals. Though the 80HE isn't bad as hardware goes.
I swear my first wooting I bought like 1 year and a half ago was faster then my current one, and I swear it’s cuz on the old version of the software the original rapid trigger dead zone was 0.10 and now they moved it up to 0.15
@@Klar damn i was gettin tricked by placebo?? 😭😭 no wonder my apex 9 pro felt faster rapid trigger wise when id spam buttons cuz that one actually goes down to 0.10
if any videos needs shocking in the title its this
The shooking videos are those without shooting in the title xD
Bro this. I'm like "wait wait wait... No shocking?"
@@johnathanphelps6819 yea i didnt see shocking so i thought itd be a troll video kinda like his shorts where he just gives a rage bait opinion and trolls
Truely one of the shocking of all time
Ahhhh this video is so we can force wooting to add this as an option in their software... you cheeky cheeky boy
good to see you're back on the superior gaming mousepad material
Glass is actually so bad its such a successful psyop
@@boardzyMousepads in general are a Psyop.
PIECE OF COLORED CLOTH $79!!!
Like bro you could probably convince an Indonesian man in a street shop to make you one for free by telling him a story
@@boardzy glass was a fad in early 2000s... Icemat made them and was bought out by steelseries in mid 2000's. Also there was Steelseries i-1 and i-2 pads (ice series) over 10 years ago. Ask Takasta (gaming mouse legend guy) i think he used to review them. I believe they were very small in size compared to todays standard, but QCK large size still existed back then. Patent must have expired recently, but I dont remember the last time steelseries had a glass pad. perhaps Steelseries bought icemat to acquire the patent and remain large in the smaller pc gaming market back then.
@@boardzy Not really, people always give pro and cons about it
Good part about wooting is that it has ISO layouts. I use ISO-DE myself and not a lot of companies support that.
Throughout the video I was on the fence whether you're trolling us or not
Whatever it takes to get wooting to implement lower deadzone
0.01 actuation is completely negligible/meaningless for a vast majority of situations
I agree that wooting not allowing deadzone to be changed is a much bigger deal
Literally pointless @@boardzy
@@boardzy You mean you agree that it doesn't make a difference so there's no point in changing it because 0.3 in actuation travel distance won't change anything for anyone. Some of the best players in the world that use 80HE keyboard don't care and aren't complaining, so its very obviously a non issue. No need to make it into one.
Boardzy going for whos writing the bigger check again. Wooting needs to do something - write Boardzy a check...pay him
Yeah wooting stopped cutting me checks when they launched the optimum collab so I had to revolt
Boardzy recommends like, one keyboard every 2-3 YEARS. Jumping to bribery conspiracies is insane.
I swear the glass era has made him go schizo. Also for anyone who hates stem wobble. The Geon Raw HE switches have the lowest stem wobble I've seen in any HE switch and they sound great too as a bonus.
I'm still rocking my 60HE because I enjoy the layout more and I'm not THAT schizo yet that I feel like I need 8k polling.
Pretty sure the jade maxes are the top tier atm
Endgame baby oil vid soon?
Let's go Sikakeyb. Loving my HM80!
bros losing it
Competition is good. There are other small gripes I have with the 60HE like the spacebar and the way Lekkers feel in general. Otherwise it has been one of the most solid boards I've owned vs. my apex pro which randomly crashes and turned into a rattly mess over time as all the LEDs also slowly failed.
i have the wooting 80he and i also have the rog falchion ace hfx and i actually prefer the rog because of the minimal key wobble and the better sounding switches.
I also have them both. The Asus is the better keyboard.
You could try reviewing the mad60. Its a budget hall effect switch keyboard
POV: you just bought a wooting 80he ._.
More competition = better improvements (hopefully)
Is the 0.01 RT consistent over a long period? There has to be some sort of issues come up in 2-3 months of usage right?
It is fake tbh
0.1 rt by the same standard would also be troublesome after 2-3 month, measure how long 0.1 is and youll see
here's hoping wooting responds like they did to the snappy tappy video
I did the glass pad experiment at the same time as you (skypad 3.0) and I have never loved my Hien more than now I'm back on it.
thats why I didn't bought 80 he but bought hm66 instead. will swap in into tofu case and keep 60he as backup!
I wish these companies would make simpler colors like just a white or just a black would be more appealing to more people, also gateron jade pros make RGB look trash you wont be able to use certain colors because of the green tint on the housing and stem
does the hm66 have the same tech is the hm80? dont feel like going back to big ass keyboard
Will you be reviewing the nuphy60he
Damn wooting getting overtaken?? whose next Artizan? i don't think my heart could take a boardzy x artizan breakup
I have a question that doesnt have anything to do with the video (great video tho!). I have a xlite v3 es and I dont really like the ergo shape that much and im thinking about buying the lamzu atlantis v2 4k or the hitscan hyperlight. My question is, which one of those mice should i buy and do they have good specs to keep up with all other competition?
I'd like to see better switches, better stem stabilization, less wobble, speed switch option with lower total travel. Also improved HE raw data like Geonworks Raptor switches. Also proper TKL.
So it wasn't just me... they need to have adjustable deadzones
The custom keyboard guys are gonna lose their mind over this video
The diehard keyboard nerds are simply not interest in hall effect. They're two separate markets
@@bongmist3243 There's some overlap with the VenomHE, QK65 Classic V2, etc.
yeah good you mention it so wooting can fix it.. but yeah no way im going to a plastic case after tried this zinc alloy case..love the sound from it.
glorious lynx silent HE switches do work with wooting and they sound good
shocking
I'm sure this is going to sound blasphemous, but I pre ordered the Wooting 80 he more because of the raw metal case option than the hall effect switches.
have you played any deadlock yet?
wooting charging 220 euros for 80he is pretty dumb considering you can get he keyboards that are equally as good feature and sound wise for half the price
It's true for every product nowadays in any category
No company can compete or recover the RND costs because China will launch an updated version 1 day later that costs 1/10th of the price
@@goochipoochie True. I exclusively use chinese peripherals cuz I can't be arsed to spend 100+ on a mouse from the big western brands. The only thing lacking from these chinese companies is marketing. The western people do not know these 'hidden gems' exist, so they buy what's most recognizable.
What about $149 GMMK 3 HE?
Its a glorious product
@ be objective, don't hate ;)
NUPHY AIR96 HE WILL BE MY ENDGAME KEYBOARD
bro how do you get the gsr to lay flat help mine won’t 😭 i tried to put books on it overnight and it’s like halfway flat (i’ve had it for 3 days)
What do you think of the NuPhy Halo65 HE?
Havent tried it but likely on a worse PCB due to the price, I'm sure its fine tho
Ya but you're not throwing the keyboards around on your desk constantly throughout the review so this kinda seems like fake news. 🤷♂
we're still waiting for the drunkdeer review boardzy, where is the drunkdeer review?
Maybe when the drop a keyboard with the latest PCB, the one I tried earlier this year didn't move me
So all of this is for wooting to enable some feature in their software?
You get it
IMO Wooting not being readily available make them completely worthless to the masses. Is a niche product and most competitive games are starting to ban them.
When I first saw your channel name I thought that you're keyboard person because you know, BOARDzy and keyBOARDs but yeah. I wonder how you came up with this name
Somebody has to be the anti-hero
The new asus falchion Hfx board tries to fix switch wobble. If it really bothers you maybe you'll like this one
Asus product. With Asus software. With Asus guarantee and customer support. OMEGALUL
met zeus (left shocked)
Shocking 😱
TTC KOM or Jade Pro? I have made68 pro btw
TTC KOM are the gold standard for magnetic switch performance. Nothing comes close atm.
Jade Pros will sound deeper though if that matters.
True end game lasts someone 5 years minimum, like my old gpx!
Boardzy, i have a skypad 3.0 and the 4.0 wall or something is the best mouse pad right
For glass
artisan raiden mid
@qhat2637 sold out everywhere, but glass mouse pad has infinite smoothness
Lmao the wallhack sp004 is the skypad 4.0, which is an improvement from the 3.0
@boardzy yes but im asking if it's the best glass mouse pad
How do you know they aren't lying about the numbers? Likely placebo
You can see the numbers displayed while you press the switch in the software. I agree lots of things are placebo, but low deadzone is as easy to notice as low actuation point
@@boardzy Lowest Wooting Rapid Trigger setting used to say .1mm but they changed the text to .15mm since they thought that was a more accurate description. Nothing changed about the setting, only the text.
@@theterriblepuddle1830 Im not talking about rapid trigger, I'm talking about deadzone or "initial actuation point" which I think is a concept a lot of people aren't familiar with
@@boardzy rapid trigger has deadzones too.
Try Steelseries Apex Pro Gen 3
Its not Wooting 80he, its actually Wooting 60he
hi man.. we need more mouse review man, alot cheap one slowly keep up with pricey one, please review them man, I can't find in your channel
Which mice specifically?
@@boardzy
(magnesium alloy)
Keychron M1
Keychron M3 Mini Alloy
AULA
EWEADN L1
Machenike
Inphic
Baseus Editor
and many more...
😥
So would you recommend the nuphy halo65 he or the endgame gear kb65he?
Neither, made68 pro/ultra. I haven't tried nuphy and didnt love endgame gear when I tried it
between these two, Nuphy. They actually cooked with the software and its like 100$
Only thing is I’m in Canada so the egg is like 60-80 dollars cheaper than the other options lol
@@StickTalk8 The KB65HE has floating ap, it's garbage, don't get it.
Noted, will get made68 ultra
Please try nuphy 80 he low profile
0,001 RT? That's gotta be joke
It is marketing trick. Lower number = faster
how is this made86 ultra? been thinking about it
It feels really good, apparently it tests better than both hm80/80he but I prefer 80% size and had some issues with my settings staying applied on that board
Pointless features, the jump from mechanical keyboards to hall effect hasn't made gamers noticeably better. You only have to look at the pro scene and everything still looks the same. There's no reason for these products to cost more than $150
What’s truly shocking about TH-camr “endgame” gear is that it always ends up being replaced in 1-2 years.
If something stays on top for 6 months that is impressive
@ lol
Looks like you upset the wooting fanboys but I noticed you’ve remained the same since I subbed 3 years ago. You seemingly give genuine opinions and haven’t turned into an intentional shill like optimum
Bro wut, all these reviewers are shills, it's natural to gravitate to certain products and use it as reference
Yap
No rgb, no media buttons or knob. Gimmick hall effect to stay on the same rank of whatever you are playing, but still pay the hall effect tax. Hard pass
magger68he is my end game keyboard.
do a review on mad68he
Respect
Boardzy you know how small is 0.01mm? Only reason they are. Not implementing it keyboard would actuate from little shake like hitting keyboard with mouse or with stem woble. So only chinnese boards that could compete on same lvl with wooting is ez60 only if they cook their software a little bit more.
Based
(SHOCKING)
try nuphy halo HE, if you are in search of the endgame just buy an F1-8X with venom-he pcb and geon raws and enjoy the best keyboard ever made
Dosent venom he has less features than chinnese he boards?
@JakubixIsHere web interface
He mad becuse he didnt get a colab like Optimum (im joking)
Your videos are always so diverse and interesting! I look forward to new releases! 💚🍓
Hi
Bro if you put your cam in toilet will be better position
Chill
zowie pilled
it's a really pity for the color.... white sucks xD
Nah they have bad white colour
@JakubixIsHere i don't like white color xD
Wooting aint all that , Zenblade clears ( self inflicted extreme bias )
china #1
Wooting used to be the best, but now it's more like finalmouse, 80% hype 20% actual product. The Chinese caught up and leap frogged, anyone looking for HE keyboard should consider Chinese premium brands.
(Also why is the zowie gsr rouge on your desk? that pad is far inferior than any of your other pads)
think boardzy is bandwagoning the current meta where people use certain peripherals to form opinions & then publishing those on video platforms like youtube, not 100% certain tho
@@floodyNumb Eh things change. The magnetic keyboard scene is on fire atm. Lots of innovations and improvements every few months.
You can get better performing and built keyboards for a fraction of one Wooting and software to match. The Lekker switches in the Wooting are vastly inferior to the ones in newer high performance keyboards, as are the internals. Though the 80HE isn't bad as hardware goes.
@@hinchlikescake7592 any recommendations for better performing alternatives to wooting?
yooooo
Well. Chinese HE More improved than wooting, Drunkdeer has RDT, Nuphy has NOS75 and AIR best low profile HE, Melgeek the fastest HE right now
Wooting 60HE is better anyway
No comment
chinese keyboard keylogger
true lol
I'm going back to customs because I don't find myself using the hall effect features.
zowie 4ms isnt noticeable but he swears 0.01ms on a keyboard is ? Lol okkkkkkkkkkkkk bro
I swear my first wooting I bought like 1 year and a half ago was faster then my current one, and I swear it’s cuz on the old version of the software the original rapid trigger dead zone was 0.10 and now they moved it up to 0.15
It was actually 0.15 on both, it's just the UI that's changed.
@@Klar damn i was gettin tricked by placebo?? 😭😭 no wonder my apex 9 pro felt faster rapid trigger wise when id spam buttons cuz that one actually goes down to 0.10
PCMK 2 HE TKL by Pulsar is also really great for the price $159
I have it and feel like its worse than the 80he, but the price is better I agree
get back to your roots and review budget shit tier magnetic keyboards, we are poor and never paying 200$ for keyboard
Which ones are actually good? In my mind budget keyboards are like budget monitors, not worth bothering with
nuphy 65 halo he
Idk I might be the first
569 views in 13 minutes bro fell off
I just cant believe they made the 80he so ugly and plastic garbage
This HM80 copied the same layout and is also an uglier beige plastic. At least the 80HE has a Zinc alloy option
@@Kokinkun the case of the wooting is ugly af. nothing worse than that. layout maybe copied which is also ugly, true.
Your videos are always so inspiring! Thank you for your energy! 💋🔥