Ali bhai apne Bht Achi Baten ki , Or Talha Sahab ko Bat Samjh me Q ni Arhi Allah Behter Jaane mgr Phli Bar Apki Bat Se Itafak Rakhta ho Masha Allah nice
Brother Ali. "Khatam" and "Khatim" are both correct pronounciations. One is according to Hafs and the other is Warsh way of qirat. So, both meaning of "Seal of Prophets" and "End/last of Prophets" are correct. You dont need to go any further in explaining the word "Khatam" as "Khatim" is also from one of the 7 dialects of Quran. And Allah SWT know best.
Right. Also in Hadees word Khatim is present. Qadiyanis fail to understand that Seal of Prophets mean End of Sending of Prophets to humanity from Allah Almighty. Allah Almighty has sealed the sending of Prophets and anyone denying it is doing Kufr and is Kafir
Correct ✅ And if someone is still stubborn about its wrong meaning (i.e. Qadiyanis), they should read the entire Ayah, which starts with "Muhammad is not the father of [any] of your men" and then mentions he is the seal/last of the Prophets. The context is clear, had he a father, then people would have elevated his son's status to a messenger or "son of messenger" etc.. But Allah (swt) left no room for such misconceptions/misguidance either. The Verse explicitly asserts the finality of the Prophet with Muhammad (saw). End of story.
حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے منکرین زکوۃ سے جنگ کی تھی منکرین زکوۃ نے صرف اور صرف زکوۃ نہ دینے کا ارادہ کیا تھا جس کلمے کو پڑھ کر دین میں داخل ہوئے تھے اس کلمے کا انکار نہیں کیا تھااور ان کے پاس اپنی تاویلیں بھی رہی ہوں گی لیکن حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے ان سے جنگ کی اور وہ لوگ قتل بھی ہوئے جبکہ صحابہ کی اکثریت کی رائے تھی کہ ان سے جنگ نہ کی جائے آپ کے بقول اگر کوئی کفر کر رہا ہے تو اسے کافر نہ قرار دے کر اس کے ساتھ ٹیبل ٹاک کرنی چاہیے تھی جبکہ حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے فرمایا تھا کہ یہ حضور صلی اللہ تعالی علیہ وسلم کے دور میں اگر اونٹ کے ساتھ رسی بھی دیتے تھے اگر آج وہ اونٹ کے ساتھ رسی بھی دینے سے انکار کریں گے تب بھی میں انہیں قتل کروں گا حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے منکرین زکوۃ کو ٹیبل ٹاک نہیں کر کے ان کے ساتھ جہاد کیا آپ کے مطابق کیا حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ کا فیصلہ درست تھا یا غلط تھا آپ کے بقول حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے ان سے ٹیبل ٹاک نہ کر کے ان سے ہدایت کا موقع چھین لیا
جو لوگ خدا سے اور اس کے پیغمبروں سے کفر کرتے ہیں اور خدا اور اس کے پیغمبروں میں فرق کرنا چاہتے ہیں اور کہتے ہیں کہ ہم بعض کو مانتے ہیں اور بعض کو نہیں مانتے اور ایمان اور کفر کے بیچ میں ایک راہ نکالنی چاہتے ہیں ﴿۱۵۰﴾ وہ بلا اشتباہ کافر ہیں اور کافروں کے لئے ہم نے ذلت کا عذاب تیار کر رکھا ہے اور جو لوگ خدا اور اس کے پیغمبروں پر ایمان لائے اور ان میں سے کسی میں فرق نہ کیا (یعنی سب کو مانا) ایسے لوگوں کو وہ عنقریب ان (کی نیکیوں) کے صلے عطا فرمائے گا اور خدا بخشنے والا مہربان ہے ﴿۱۵۲﴾﴿۱۵۱﴾(ترجمہ: فتح محمد جالندھری)
Ali bhai one more point, aaj jo paidaishi kadyani hain unpar or jo ghulam ahmad kadyani dajjal ke time par murtad huye they un par same KUFR ka fatwa nhi lagaya jaa sakta. Aaj jo paidaishi Ahmadi hai vo bas usi madhab ko follow kr rahe hain jisme vo paida hue, bilkul waise hi jaise aaj ke deobandi or barelvi... Isi wajah se aaj ke ahmadiyon ko TA'AWEEL KI GHALATI ka benefit of doubt dena jayez hai halanki vo hamare liye kaafir hi hai kyoki unhone khatme nabuwat ka inkaar kiya.
Healthy discussions, but I agree with M. Talha Alvi fully. We need to revert to the criteria detailed in the Qur'an to know who is a believer and who is not. Meaning: Someone who believes in Allah, His Messengers, His Angels, His Book, and Last Day, then he is a Believer. And we have no right to call that believer a kafir. Nor are we required to judge individuals for their beliefs.
Aslam u alikum ali bhai kasy h aap. Ali bhai talha bhai k logic ko ak step aagy barh k samjhth h. Kam alfaz or choty jumlo m i hope ap samajh jay gy Dakhy bhai jaan jasy qadyaniyon ko taweel ki galti lagi or wo kufar kr bath lakin lakin hum un k kufar ko kufar ni bol skty q k unhy taweel ki galti lgi h to expose k agr kisi insan ko quran e pak ki kisi aayat ki yh smj aati h k hum ALLAH k siwa b kisi b ibadat kr skty h to q k usy taweel ki galti lgi h or hum koi deobandi ya bralvi to ha ni jo boly k jo hum ny quran samjah wo sahi or jo kisi or ny samjah wo lagat h har kisi ko goor o fikr krny ka haq h to hum usy kafir ya musrik to nahi na kahy gy...?
Ghamidi sahab ke student ka case zyada strong hai...ali bhai ka case weak hai. Razi ye nai kehta muhammad s.a.w akhri nabi hai...wo yehi kehta ke ye akhri nabi s.a.w akhri nabi hai...
According to this Logic, Agr koe bnda khe k Me Tauheed ko manta hn Aur Allah 1 nahi 2 hain Aur Wo Quran ki Ayaat ki jhothi Taweelat kren Aur khe k Meri Tauheed ki Understanding yhi ha To Kia Us pr Kufr ka Fatwa nahi lgayenge???
Iss ka to phir koi end nahi ho ga, abb agar Main koi aisa issue uthaa doon, aur jaan boojh kar kahun, ke Main Theek hun, aur sympathy loon, ke Mujhe samajhne mein ghalati lagi hai, to phir to koi bhi Ghalat nahi, phir to Har Gunaah Halaal hai, Koi Cheez Haraam hai hi nahi!!
محترم علی بھائی، جو آپ کہہ رہے ہیں کہ چونکہ آخری نبی کا انکار کیا ہے اس لیے کافر ہیں،، تو کیا آپ قرآن و حدیث کی روشنی میں بتا سکتے ہیں کہ جیسے اللہ کو ایک ماننا، فرشتوں کو ماننا، الہامی کتب کو ماننا مسلمان ہونے کی شرط ہے،، کیا پیغمبر محمد کو آخری نبی ماننا مسلمان ہونے کی شرط ہے؟؟ قرآن و حدیث میں یہ بات کہاں درج ہے، اصلاح لازمی کریں
@@19usamaasif59 Agar Qayamat se pehle pehle unhone apni Firqa-wariyat chhor di to apko jawab de denge, warna shayed Qur'an par itna ghoro fikr na karen jitna Qur'an ka haq hay 🤷🏻
Jo kalma prhtey ho us main ye shart clear ho jati hai Us main ap Allah ko aik mannay ke ilawa hazrat Muhammad S.A.W ko bhi akhri nabi manna zaroori hai
@@hayder-e5u Kalmay mai "Aakhri" ka lafz kahan aata hay zara bataye? Qur'an mai Imaan ki complete sharayt jab wazay hain iske baad apko aur kis daleel ki zaroorat? Kya apke liye Qur'an kaafi nahi hay buniyaadi aqeedon ko clear karne ke liye?
wo jo shetani krne ke liye student ki videos pr comment krta tha. wo yaha nazar nhi araha munafiq kahein ka.😂 khair Ali imran have zero knowledge. and may he learn first before moving into the conversation❤
Nabi(ﷺ) ne sari muslim umat kay 73 friqon main taqseem honay ki pesh goi kar dee thee. Nabi(ﷺ) ne 73 firqon main se 1 firqay ko jannati aur 72 ko jahanami batlaya tha. Engineer kehta hai ke woh in 73 firqon main shamil naheen. Kya woh is ummat se bahir hai?? Is ka matlab to yehi hua. In fact Engineer inhi 73 firqon main se 1 hai, aur woh jannati firqay se bahir hai, because he is a new addition.
Yaha ghamdi' student ka maukkif zyada behtar laga or hamara ye doglapan h k hum barelviyon ko shurk karne par muslim bolain or qadiyaniyon ko kafir logically sochain bhai
1. It doesn’t matter what Qadynee says or what Lahore says .. we can simple see MGAQ claims from his writings. 2. They did not change the meaning but added to the meanings of Khatm e Nabowat by using hades. 3. They have clearly called out all Muslims Kafir so if people like supporters of Ghamdi sb cannot dare to declare Kafirs to Qadyanes then atleast use defence or shield of Hades that if someone calls any Muslim a Kafir then the Kufr returns to him therefore MGAQ and all Qadyanis are Kafirs. 4. As I understand Ghamdi sb says them non Muslims but fears to say Kafir. 5. MGAQ doesn’t appears as a new Prophet he claims to be Muhammad PBUH himself ! Now simply if MGAQ is Muhammad so he can call his religion any name but Islam as Islam is related to Muhammad PBUH who came 1400 years ago. 6. We don’t call Qadyanes as Mushrik but we call them Kafirs which refers to non Muslims. 7. What ever Imam Ghazali says is not Islam. We don’t have to agree with anyone other than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) so this is utter nonsense to quote an opinion of anyone who is not a prophet. Now as for Qadyanes they say that since we deny MGAQ therefore we are Kafir because as per Quran Kafroona haqqa is referred to those who deny prophets which in this case is us the Muslims. 8. Allah says in the Quran “wa man azlamu mimaniftara alallahil kazib” ie who is worst than a tyrant who attributes false to Allah and see the verse of shirk ie “innasshirka lazumunn azeem” which means verify Shirk is the biggest of all oppressions … now if we join the two verses we can correlate that the one who lies on Allah is equal to the one who is a Mushrik and such is a Kafir. 9. I recall Ghamdi sb says Sofism is a parallel religion to Islam so why not atleast say the same for Qadyanees ? 😊
@@itsfact-2812 isi riwayati kitabon (Hadith) mein likha hai ki Kuran ke chapter gayab hai Kuran ki aayaten aadil ki Hui hai. Hadeese Banu ummyo aur Banu Abbas ke Daur mein likhi gai thi iska akhiri raawi koi qaadi hota hai.. jisnee ye Hadees Bukhari ko suaee.. Bukhari ki koi bhi purani manuscript hamare pass maujud nahin. Bukhari ki samay purani manuscript uske marne ke 15 20 sal bad ki milati hai. Bukhari ke ek jagrit ne Puri Bukhari revayat ki thi uski bhi original manuscripts humaree paas nahi.. btw I am not munkeer e Hades.. but you worship hadeese more then Quran..
@@shawngegen8768 , jab tum loog tarekh nhi mantay tu tumhai kasa pata k kab kia likhi gy. or Quran bhi bhi tum loog k pas direct nhi ai ummat k through ai hai
@@shawngegen8768 Your argument is full of inaccuracies. The Qur'an is fully preserved, with no missing chapters or verses. The claim that Bukhari's hadiths were passed down by a single judge is a gross oversimplification. Hadith compilation followed strict methods, with scholars verifying narrators across generations. Early manuscripts of Bukhari exist, and oral transmission was a key part of preserving authenticity. Muslims follow the Sunnah to implement the Qur'an, as commanded in the Qur'an itself (59:7), not "worship" hadith. Your claims show a lack of understanding-study more before making such baseless statements.
@@iSaud_ the verifying method didn't exist at the time of the narrator, and that's the problem. The verifying method was oral testimony, similar to how ḥadīth books were written down much, much later. For example, we have people from different schools (in Kufa, Basra, Egypt) calling a particular narrator trustworthy or a liar 50 or even 100 years after his death, possibly because of their personal agendas."
Ali mirza k students ka is ilmi behas sa kya laina dena ... hahahahaha Tum log khailo badikhlaqi badikhlaqi aur aik dusry ko bas jawab bazi khailo tumhara kya laina dena aisi ilmi mozu sa ..
ye bhi ghamdi ny khod sy khani bani hoi hai k humaray pas takfeer ka akhtayar nahi. ye likha kaha hai ghamdiyo. Quran Surah Al Maidah Mai saaf likha hai k Jo koi bhi ALLAH k revelation k mutabik judge nhi karay ga wo disbeliever hai
Ali Bhai koi faida nhi inn sa baat krny ka ye loog bas apny AAP ko unique show krwanay k liye iss tarhan ki harkatain kr rhy Hain. Ummat ma AAJ taq kis na zillay NABI hony ka b Dawa Kiya ha , ye Qadiyani achanak sa uth kr kessy zillay Navi hony ka Dawa kr sakta ha 😡😡😡
Engineer Muhammed Ali mirza ❤❤💯✌️✌️
Talha bhai ny acha explain kia hai ❤
MaShaAllah ! Allah Pak apko Khush Rakhe
MashAllah Ali Bhai Great Effort Allah Bless you .... ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Jazzak ALLAH...! ALLAH TALLAH aap ko or hamain sahi Deen ki samjh ata farmaye Ameen.
@@alikiawaaz Ameen
Masha Allah
Poore live session me mere according sirf Ali ki awaaz bhai ne hi oppositions me se best muqaddamah rakha hai
Ali bhai apne Bht Achi Baten ki , Or Talha Sahab ko Bat Samjh me Q ni Arhi Allah Behter Jaane mgr Phli Bar Apki Bat Se Itafak Rakhta ho Masha Allah nice
Brother Ali. "Khatam" and "Khatim" are both correct pronounciations. One is according to Hafs and the other is Warsh way of qirat. So, both meaning of "Seal of Prophets" and "End/last of Prophets" are correct. You dont need to go any further in explaining the word "Khatam" as "Khatim" is also from one of the 7 dialects of Quran. And Allah SWT know best.
Right. Also in Hadees word Khatim is present. Qadiyanis fail to understand that Seal of Prophets mean End of Sending of Prophets to humanity from Allah Almighty. Allah Almighty has sealed the sending of Prophets and anyone denying it is doing Kufr and is Kafir
Correct ✅ And if someone is still stubborn about its wrong meaning (i.e. Qadiyanis), they should read the entire Ayah, which starts with "Muhammad is not the father of [any] of your men" and then mentions he is the seal/last of the Prophets. The context is clear, had he a father, then people would have elevated his son's status to a messenger or "son of messenger" etc.. But Allah (swt) left no room for such misconceptions/misguidance either. The Verse explicitly asserts the finality of the Prophet with Muhammad (saw). End of story.
@@Hasan... Exactly
Not only Warsh, but all 9 Qira'aat excluding Asim (both Hafs and Shu'bah)
Mashallah Ali bhai❤
Masallah ali bhai
Ali vai good video❤
Kabi mufti yasir or qaisar bhi basalat Adam atif rayyan ki stream par b jao na
Talha be like..... Ali Bhai ap ki sab batain thk Hain .. lkin ..... Hm nai many gy 😂
Ali bahi love from kashmir ❤
حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے منکرین زکوۃ سے جنگ کی تھی منکرین زکوۃ نے صرف اور صرف زکوۃ نہ دینے کا ارادہ کیا تھا جس کلمے کو پڑھ کر دین میں داخل ہوئے تھے اس کلمے کا انکار نہیں کیا تھااور ان کے پاس اپنی تاویلیں بھی رہی ہوں گی لیکن حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے ان سے جنگ کی اور وہ لوگ قتل بھی ہوئے
جبکہ صحابہ کی اکثریت کی رائے تھی کہ ان سے جنگ نہ کی جائے
آپ کے بقول اگر کوئی کفر کر رہا ہے تو اسے کافر نہ قرار دے کر اس کے ساتھ ٹیبل ٹاک کرنی چاہیے تھی جبکہ حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے فرمایا تھا کہ یہ حضور صلی اللہ تعالی علیہ وسلم کے دور میں اگر اونٹ کے ساتھ رسی بھی دیتے تھے اگر آج وہ اونٹ کے ساتھ رسی بھی دینے سے انکار کریں گے تب بھی میں انہیں قتل کروں گا حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے منکرین زکوۃ کو ٹیبل ٹاک نہیں کر کے ان کے ساتھ جہاد کیا آپ کے مطابق کیا حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ کا فیصلہ درست تھا یا غلط تھا
آپ کے بقول حضرت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے ان سے ٹیبل ٹاک نہ کر کے ان سے ہدایت کا موقع چھین لیا
10:20 why the hack he was saying " mriza sahab " instead of mirza darjal why ....😢😢😢
جو لوگ خدا سے اور اس کے پیغمبروں سے کفر کرتے ہیں اور خدا اور اس کے پیغمبروں میں فرق کرنا چاہتے ہیں اور کہتے ہیں کہ ہم بعض کو مانتے ہیں اور بعض کو نہیں مانتے اور ایمان اور کفر کے بیچ میں ایک راہ نکالنی چاہتے ہیں ﴿۱۵۰﴾ وہ بلا اشتباہ کافر ہیں اور کافروں کے لئے ہم نے ذلت کا عذاب تیار کر رکھا ہے اور جو لوگ خدا اور اس کے پیغمبروں پر ایمان لائے اور ان میں سے کسی میں فرق نہ کیا (یعنی سب کو مانا) ایسے لوگوں کو وہ عنقریب ان (کی نیکیوں) کے صلے عطا فرمائے گا اور خدا بخشنے والا مہربان ہے ﴿۱۵۲﴾﴿۱۵۱﴾(ترجمہ: فتح محمد جالندھری)
Sir haris sultan.pakistani mulhid ko answer karay please
Ali bhai qadyanie ka peacha namaz phar sakta ha kya? Jub ka hum baralvi sheeya logo ka peacha namaz phar lata ha qk Muslim ha ya b plz muna samja dia?
Sahi bt hy jb usko itna pta hy k nabowat khtm ho chuki hy phr usko kese taveel ki glti lg skti hy wo tw tehreef kr rha hy k ye wese nabi hy etc...
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ !
جزاك الله خيرا !
Mohammed Talha Alvi Bhai kitne bhole ho Aap
jo kilaaa qasir raja ny fit kr dia ha nikal ni skta kabii😁😁😁😁😁😁
Ali bhai one more point, aaj jo paidaishi kadyani hain unpar or jo ghulam ahmad kadyani dajjal ke time par murtad huye they un par same KUFR ka fatwa nhi lagaya jaa sakta. Aaj jo paidaishi Ahmadi hai vo bas usi madhab ko follow kr rahe hain jisme vo paida hue, bilkul waise hi jaise aaj ke deobandi or barelvi... Isi wajah se aaj ke ahmadiyon ko TA'AWEEL KI GHALATI ka benefit of doubt dena jayez hai halanki vo hamare liye kaafir hi hai kyoki unhone khatme nabuwat ka inkaar kiya.
Ali Bhai nailed it ❤
Healthy discussions, but I agree with M. Talha Alvi fully. We need to revert to the criteria detailed in the Qur'an to know who is a believer and who is not. Meaning: Someone who believes in Allah, His Messengers, His Angels, His Book, and Last Day, then he is a Believer. And we have no right to call that believer a kafir. Nor are we required to judge individuals for their beliefs.
Good job.
Jo asli munazra Karne wale hain unke Sath kiun nahi beth'te engineer or uske firqe wale 😂😂
Ghamdians are original liberals. Period.
Aslam u alikum ali bhai kasy h aap.
Ali bhai talha bhai k logic ko ak step aagy barh k samjhth h. Kam alfaz or choty jumlo m i hope ap samajh jay gy
Dakhy bhai jaan jasy qadyaniyon ko taweel ki galti lagi or wo kufar kr bath lakin lakin hum un k kufar ko kufar ni bol skty q k unhy taweel ki galti lgi h to expose k agr kisi insan ko quran e pak ki kisi aayat ki yh smj aati h k hum ALLAH k siwa b kisi b ibadat kr skty h to q k usy taweel ki galti lgi h or hum koi deobandi ya bralvi to ha ni jo boly k jo hum ny quran samjah wo sahi or jo kisi or ny samjah wo lagat h har kisi ko goor o fikr krny ka haq h to hum usy kafir ya musrik to nahi na kahy gy...?
Agar Hazrat Ali A.S Ummati NABI nhi to Ghulam Qadiyani Dajjal to shaaa he koi ni 😡😡😡
Ghamidi sahab ke student ka case zyada strong hai...ali bhai ka case weak hai.
Razi ye nai kehta muhammad s.a.w akhri nabi hai...wo yehi kehta ke ye akhri nabi s.a.w akhri nabi hai...
❤️❤️❤️❤️
inthai thandi podcast jis m apny baba bachya jara ha 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Im bralvi sunni but ali bhai appne bilkul theek kha yai ghamdi ya ghamdi student molvis of rich peoples hein
Beta hum sa bat kro na ghareebon k molvi ly ao na .. apky ghrebon waly molvi bhe daikhy huye
EMAM
According to this Logic, Agr koe bnda khe k Me Tauheed ko manta hn Aur Allah 1 nahi 2 hain Aur Wo Quran ki Ayaat ki jhothi Taweelat kren Aur khe k Meri Tauheed ki Understanding yhi ha To Kia Us pr Kufr ka Fatwa nahi lgayenge???
Iss ka to phir koi end nahi ho ga, abb agar Main koi aisa issue uthaa doon, aur jaan boojh kar kahun, ke Main Theek hun, aur sympathy loon, ke Mujhe samajhne mein ghalati lagi hai, to phir to koi bhi Ghalat nahi, phir to Har Gunaah Halaal hai, Koi Cheez Haraam hai hi nahi!!
Ye log live karke jahalat yani Ghamdiyat in a sugar coated form 😂😂😂
محترم علی بھائی، جو آپ کہہ رہے ہیں کہ چونکہ آخری نبی کا انکار کیا ہے اس لیے کافر ہیں،، تو کیا آپ قرآن و حدیث کی روشنی میں بتا سکتے ہیں کہ جیسے اللہ کو ایک ماننا، فرشتوں کو ماننا، الہامی کتب کو ماننا مسلمان ہونے کی شرط ہے،، کیا پیغمبر محمد کو آخری نبی ماننا مسلمان ہونے کی شرط ہے؟؟ قرآن و حدیث میں یہ بات کہاں درج ہے، اصلاح لازمی کریں
Behtereen sawal !...Maine bhi abhi yehi comment kiya tha! ✅
اس سوال کے جواب کےلیے علی بھائی کے پاس ٹائم قیامت تک ہے،، علی کی آواز بھائی اور علی مرزا بھائی دونوں کے پاس ٹائم قیامت تک
@@19usamaasif59 Agar Qayamat se pehle pehle unhone apni Firqa-wariyat chhor di to apko jawab de denge, warna shayed Qur'an par itna ghoro fikr na karen jitna Qur'an ka haq hay 🤷🏻
Jo kalma prhtey ho us main ye shart clear ho jati hai
Us main ap Allah ko aik mannay ke ilawa hazrat Muhammad S.A.W ko bhi akhri nabi manna zaroori hai
@@hayder-e5u Kalmay mai "Aakhri" ka lafz kahan aata hay zara bataye? Qur'an mai Imaan ki complete sharayt jab wazay hain iske baad apko aur kis daleel ki zaroorat? Kya apke liye Qur'an kaafi nahi hay buniyaadi aqeedon ko clear karne ke liye?
wo jo shetani krne ke liye student ki videos pr comment krta tha. wo yaha nazar nhi araha munafiq kahein ka.😂
khair Ali imran have zero knowledge. and may he learn first before moving into the conversation❤
Nabi(ﷺ) ne sari muslim umat kay 73 friqon main taqseem honay ki pesh goi kar dee thee.
Nabi(ﷺ) ne 73 firqon main se 1 firqay ko jannati aur 72 ko jahanami batlaya tha.
Engineer kehta hai ke woh in 73 firqon main shamil naheen.
Kya woh is ummat se bahir hai?? Is ka matlab to yehi hua.
In fact Engineer inhi 73 firqon main se 1 hai, aur woh jannati firqay se bahir hai, because he is a new addition.
Ali Bhai nabi Saaw KY baad Jo divine relation claim kr rha hai mun Sy wo muslman Kesy hain
good Ali bro. Yaha inn ka baba ghamdi bhi aja ta tu wo bhi apny students k taraha baat ghuma ta rehta. aap k simple sawal ka jawab nhi dy ta
Yaha ghamdi' student ka maukkif zyada behtar laga or hamara ye doglapan h k hum barelviyon ko shurk karne par muslim bolain or qadiyaniyon ko kafir logically sochain bhai
1. It doesn’t matter what Qadynee says or what Lahore says .. we can simple see MGAQ claims from his writings.
2. They did not change the meaning but added to the meanings of Khatm e Nabowat by using hades.
3. They have clearly called out all Muslims Kafir so if people like supporters of Ghamdi sb cannot dare to declare Kafirs to Qadyanes then atleast use defence or shield of Hades that if someone calls any Muslim a Kafir then the Kufr returns to him therefore MGAQ and all Qadyanis are Kafirs.
4. As I understand Ghamdi sb says them non Muslims but fears to say Kafir.
5. MGAQ doesn’t appears as a new Prophet he claims to be Muhammad PBUH himself ! Now simply if MGAQ is Muhammad so he can call his religion any name but Islam as Islam is related to Muhammad PBUH who came 1400 years ago.
6. We don’t call Qadyanes as Mushrik but we call them Kafirs which refers to non Muslims.
7. What ever Imam Ghazali says is not Islam. We don’t have to agree with anyone other than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) so this is utter nonsense to quote an opinion of anyone who is not a prophet. Now as for Qadyanes they say that since we deny MGAQ therefore we are Kafir because as per Quran Kafroona haqqa is referred to those who deny prophets which in this case is us the Muslims.
8. Allah says in the Quran “wa man azlamu mimaniftara alallahil kazib” ie who is worst than a tyrant who attributes false to Allah and see the verse of shirk ie “innasshirka lazumunn azeem” which means verify Shirk is the biggest of all oppressions … now if we join the two verses we can correlate that the one who lies on Allah is equal to the one who is a Mushrik and such is a Kafir.
9. I recall Ghamdi sb says Sofism is a parallel religion to Islam so why not atleast say the same for Qadyanees ? 😊
Takfir ki hadees milti hai kya????...
munkirnay Hadith ghamdiyo ka Hadith or tarekh sy kia ly na dy na.
@@itsfact-2812 isi riwayati kitabon (Hadith) mein likha hai ki Kuran ke chapter gayab hai Kuran ki aayaten aadil ki Hui hai. Hadeese Banu ummyo aur Banu Abbas ke Daur mein likhi gai thi iska akhiri raawi koi qaadi hota hai.. jisnee ye Hadees Bukhari ko suaee.. Bukhari ki koi bhi purani manuscript hamare pass maujud nahin. Bukhari ki samay purani manuscript uske marne ke 15 20 sal bad ki milati hai. Bukhari ke ek jagrit ne Puri Bukhari revayat ki thi uski bhi original manuscripts humaree paas nahi.. btw I am not munkeer e Hades.. but you worship hadeese more then Quran..
@@shawngegen8768 , jab tum loog tarekh nhi mantay tu tumhai kasa pata k kab kia likhi gy. or Quran bhi bhi tum loog k pas direct nhi ai ummat k through ai hai
@@shawngegen8768 Your argument is full of inaccuracies. The Qur'an is fully preserved, with no missing chapters or verses. The claim that Bukhari's hadiths were passed down by a single judge is a gross oversimplification. Hadith compilation followed strict methods, with scholars verifying narrators across generations. Early manuscripts of Bukhari exist, and oral transmission was a key part of preserving authenticity. Muslims follow the Sunnah to implement the Qur'an, as commanded in the Qur'an itself (59:7), not "worship" hadith. Your claims show a lack of understanding-study more before making such baseless statements.
@@iSaud_ the verifying method didn't exist at the time of the narrator, and that's the problem. The verifying method was oral testimony, similar to how ḥadīth books were written down much, much later.
For example, we have people from different schools (in Kufa, Basra, Egypt) calling a particular narrator trustworthy or a liar 50 or even 100 years after his death, possibly because of their personal agendas."
Ali mirza k students ka is ilmi behas sa kya laina dena ... hahahahaha Tum log khailo badikhlaqi badikhlaqi aur aik dusry ko bas jawab bazi khailo tumhara kya laina dena aisi ilmi mozu sa ..
Talha sahib kon sa ilm dy rha ghamdi joker hai
bhai apto kehto ho debate se kuch ni hota to yaha kia kr rahe ho?
Hhhhhhhh
Kabi mufti yasir ya qaisar bhi k pass b jao age ap such me seekha chahty ho
@@FeelMotivate-cm8zd waha jane se dar lagta he inhe 😂
@@ibraheemq7859 wesy haq ka daaai hain ye log
ye bhi ghamdi ny khod sy khani bani hoi hai k humaray pas takfeer ka akhtayar nahi. ye likha kaha hai ghamdiyo. Quran Surah Al Maidah Mai saaf likha hai k Jo koi bhi ALLAH k revelation k mutabik judge nhi karay ga wo disbeliever hai
Ye log to pagans ko bhi nahi kehna chah rahe hain kafir. Phir kya hi bachta hai. Haq ko haq na bolna kya sahi hai?
Ali Bhai koi faida nhi inn sa baat krny ka ye loog bas apny AAP ko unique show krwanay k liye iss tarhan ki harkatain kr rhy Hain. Ummat ma AAJ taq kis na zillay NABI hony ka b Dawa Kiya ha , ye Qadiyani achanak sa uth kr kessy zillay Navi hony ka Dawa kr sakta ha 😡😡😡