I was going 35mph when I got to the corner, but despite that yes I completely agree, I was going too fast. I just said what I said because of the shock and as soon as I got home and reviewed the footage, I realised I was completely wrong in what I said
@@Stanley88845 and yet here it is on the channel, if that's true why post it and make it seem like the truck driver was in the wrong? Then check the comments to see what others think
@@tylerc7336 never made the truck out to be in the wrong. All I've said is it's my fault and that I said what I said due to to the shock of the situation.
That last one.. Textbook harassment. You explained what it is, so them disagreeing with it and thinking you asking questions is "giving them a hard time" so they write a citation is an abuse of power. Take that shit to court and argue it all day long.
Shouldn't be in the mid lane with a trailer, and if you're gonna merge use your indicator. Not excusing the speeding, but if those 2 weren't in the "not slow" lanes he wouldn't be in that position. Nor would he have been if he slowed down, but slowing down and staying in one place makes drivers stop paying attention to you
@@WaterMelon-gv4ye regardless, passing on the right or non passing lanes in most places, at least where i am from is illegal, so when you do it you are taking a risk
@@WaterMelon-gv4ye So you're just going to ignore the fact that the retard going well over the speed limit isn't the issue here? You should drop whatever drugs you're on. Fault lies with the clown rider. 100%.
@@WaterMelon-gv4ye Im sorry....what traffic law states trucks with trailers arent allowed in the middle lane? Also, what law states that motorcyclists can go over the speed limit and pass on the right. Dont worry....Ill wait for your educated response.....
Pretty sure its unjust to threaten someone into agreeing with you as a police officer. "Im gonna write you as many tickets as I can if you make this hard for me" Shows how fragile this boys ego is
Only for a self entitled brainless little moron like the Surron rider But he got what he deserved. A ticket 🤣 I've lost count of how many times the cops have let me off because I've been nice to them and answered questions. It ain't rocket science you little princess's
Pretty much. THere's some bits and peices about power outpu and whatnot, but the key thing is the pedals. If you can pedal it normally and the motor just provides assistance, then it's an e-bike. If you require the motor to make it go, then it's a motor vehicle. Oversimplifying, but meh...
It actually depends on the state here, since ebikes are relatively new and not common in some areas, the laws can sometimes not draw boundaries between ebike and e motorcycle causing confusion. for example some states dont mandate pedals as long as the power output/speed is low enough, other states literally dont have a single thing in the entire legal code mentioning electric bikes whatsoever.
@Dougal Douglas haha, yeah. I guess it can be confusing. Where I live there is basically no laws about it, so if what you are riding looks like a bicycle and you are going a reasonable speed, you will probably have no issues whatsoever, and if what you are riding looks like a moped/scooter and goes less then 30mph you will also probably have no issues, if what you are riding goes more than 30mph you will probably want to have it registered and have plates and insurance. This is because most cops will probably just try to apply our laws about regular motor bikes when dealing with you. Again, because my state hasn't actually written any ebike laws.
I'm just glad the little idiot got a ticket. Now all he needs is a brain that's not so self entitled. Just remember all you little boys, If you give the cops shit they're gonna make you eat it 😂🤣
Cops are like: - We are clueless about the laws, but we give you a ticked for not identifying yourself in a situation you didn't have to identify yourself. Yikes...
5:55 NEVER pass a vehicle that's not fully finished it's lane-change, it can always abort it's lane change legally without needing to check for intruders
@@ChubMonsta Most places the driver is considered in control of the lane until they have left the lane completely, for multiple reasons but one is it allows them be be able to abort the lane change if something happens in the lane they are moving to. I know it is tempting to pass especially on a bike but I have learned the hard way to wait.
Legal or not should not matter when you are on a motorcycle. Your life, and knowing that people are unpredictable, is all that should be taken into account. With that said, you should never drive a car or a motorcycle thinking you have rights. You don't. You have responsibilities. In most places, the first rule of the traffic laws is that you first and foremost have a responsibility to make sure the users of a road are safe.
So cops can hand out "as many tickets as they can" to anyone they say is "giving them a hard time and making their life difficult"? And they wonder why people have zero respect for them.
Yes they can if someone is being extra uncooperative they will not give them the benefit of the doubt. If you are friendly and give your ID then they will likely take it easy. Not that difficult. Also the guy was on a traffic stop which you are required to show ID.
@@atomicmoney2140 yea na rules apply to you guys as well ride like an ass around me and best know your ass is getting knocked the fuck off your bike and knocked the fuck out. Quit that entitlement bullshit
@@atomicmoney2140 agreed especially since its hard for us to slow traffic in the least bit lmfao to anyome who gets mad calm your tits and laugh a little
4:25 I mean dude was right, but nothing worse than that friend in the group that always tries to make a point by asking 4-5 people “ Did you see me do this or that” and puts you on the spot like that 😅😂
He wasn't right, though. He stuck his hand out basically at the turn, not giving the group behind him enough time, and that's not even the correct hand signal for a right turn on a bike anyway. The other guy was overreacting for sure, but the guy with the camera was wrong from the beginning.
Живемо лише ра - Following an emergency vehicle that has lights on is illegal almost everywhere S502T - A bit impatient weren't ya, wrong side of the road and whatnot
It's not illegal in the UK but it's and unwritten rule that you allow people who move over for an emergency vehicle to retake their lane. Trying to force your way past then is fcuking bad manners and asking for somebody to punch your lights out. It's the sort of self entitled behaviour we expect from BMW or Audi drivers, not bikers.
Need To Learn Arm Signals.. LEFT ARM is used to signal left.. Right. Slow and stop. I thought they were pointing at something and I saw this video a few times.
No mirror smash is deserved and only a retard would do it. I hope anyone who smashes a mirror gets knocked off in retaliation and claim it as an accident.
A e-bike needs to have pedals to be considered an e-bike. Even if you don't have to pedal it, it's fact you have an option to pedal is what makes it one
Yeah retaliation at its finest. He cannot legally ID the rider without RAS which he admits several times he does not have but still proceeds to lean on his QI to hassle the tax payer in front of him. FTP.
I could not tell you the law in Wisconsin, but in my state, an electric bicycle would have to have peddles. If not, It would be classified as a motorcycle and have to follow all the motorcycle laws.
In CT, a scooter of 49cc and can go no faster than 35 or an ebike that is limited to 35MPH it only requires a drivers license (not Motorcycle). No registration or insurance is required. You are to ride on the side of the road unless you are turning left or avoiding something o the side of the road. You can ride in the road if you can do the speed limit. This would be roads that have a limit of anything under 35. I rode a modified scooter that was bored out to 88cc and I was able to hit 55MPH and never had an issue, even when riding in a neighboring state. This cop was just playing god.
If the biker had have given the cop his ID and was let off with a warning most people in the comments would have been praising the cop and rambling on about how it made their day so much better and what a beautiful human being the officer was
@@flaviol3978 That depends on the jurisdiction, actually. In AZ, they can. In AZ they can demand ID for operating a bicycle on the road. Not motorized, just a regular bike. So unless you actually happen to know the laws of whereeverthefuck this video is from...🤷♂
3:03 this is a good advertisement for having bright and visible turn signals equipped. Yes, some older bikes do not have them, which leaves you with hand signals, but the hand signal should be held up to the point of the turn. If you're using hand signals, you have to be deliberate about it. Additionally, holding the right hand out is not the signal for a right turn. The hand signal for a right turn is: left arm out and bent up at the elbow, left hand straight up with palm facing foreward. Yep, Harley guy should have been paying more attention, but there are things we can all do to make sure we are clear about our intentions.
Holding the right hand out is a perfectly acceptable signal for a right turn on a vehicle with no cabin. In fact, it's a much better signal than using your left hand (where it may not be seen by people on your right side i.e. in the direction you're turning). However... turning right from the left side of the lane is a pretty bad idea.
Depending on where the cop clip at 6:37 takes place if a cop asks you to present identification, there are statutes in place that state you must even if you didn't commit any crime. Edit: It was just generally a weird ass interaction the way all parties involved are talking to each other.
@@TheVoicedFlame naw. You don’t. Such laws violate the 4th amendment and have been struck down. You can’t give a false name during a consensual encounter, you can refuse to identify though. Unless there is “reasonable articulable suspicion of you having committed, are committing or are about to commit a crime”. Terry v Ohio.
@@acepilotson3331 which id say here could be argued there is because as far as that officer is aware that dude coulda been lying whatever. yeah its sumn stupid but i could see it being argued there was "reasonable" suspicion
@@acepilotson3331 nah nah i aint mean it like that, i meant even if you know you havent done anything, and they suspect you, they can ask. sorry if i worded it like that.
Dude shoulda gave the cop his id bro dude was cool just trying to figure it out, my thing is when a cop is cool and chill with you you give them all the respect back because good cops are hard to find
To be honest, I think the cop was right. That thing didn't have pedals so it isn't a bicycle. It's an electric motorcycle. It's just like a 50cc scooter.
6:38 that is not an "E-bike." An e-bike is an "electric bicycle." E-bikes have pedals, just like mopeds. That is an electric motorcycle. Electric motorcycles have to be registered as motor-vehicles in every jurisdiction I know of in the US. They have to follow the same rules for lighting, safety equipment, registration, and licensing as other motorcycles. Jurisdictions do vary, but under all those with which I am familiar, that is not an e-bike.
its an ebike dumbass. he can put pedals on it, he just chose to have pegs, which the police don't like to see because it confuses them with suck a low iq.
i hate those types of people he says "sport mode just gives you more tork but it can only go 30mph" and he is even lying it can go 45mph if upgraded 65mph i fkn hate these types of people
At least in Europe, all the electric bikes, scooters, etc, can go on the public road if there isn't one dedicated for it like a bike lane. U can go no more than 30km/h on it and u don't to license or insurance for it. I see this the same situation same if the guy was going on a normal bike and the police stops u and write you a ticket.
@@linkgroundwalker you can ride mopeds/scooters in these zones but st a reduced speed and they don’t have pedals so that’s clearly incorrect. Is an motorised wheel chair a motor vehicle? Technically yes but you don’t need a license or insurance to ride that
I am interested in these e-bike laws by state though. There is an argument to be made that they should classified as mopeds, which don't need to be registered, but exceeding 35 mph on a moped in GA or exceed 50cc you can be issued a citation for speeding or excess engine size. But do electric bikes have a stator size limit? Who knows.
Not at all.... As it like all ebikes does certainly have a motor.... but it is under the power threshold to be considered a "Motor Vehicle" in the eyes of the government... He was saying it has a motor, but is not considered a motor vehicle ... Which is usually how these Sur-Rons are handled... like Bicycles... If you want to be technical, any driving force is a motor, therefore the human body on a bicycle is in fact the motor.... Most municipalities consider 50 CC and under as non motor vehicles, and do not require licensing ... they are the same as bicycles
Most cars etc. run off an engine. Engines run off fuel, motors off electricity. However, electric cars still have to have insurance etc. It might well not be classified as a vehicle due to its low power?
@@DMSJagXK engines still have motors in them. It’s not a motor vehicle because it’s capped below 50cc or 30 miles per hour. It’s just a motor assisted bicycle but without the pedals. If you took your electric bike, took off the pedals it doesn’t stop being a bike. If you wanna think of it as like Slowest motorcycle that’s fine but under the legal classification that it’s bicycle speeds that it isn’t a motor vehicle in the eyes of the law even if it technically is
@@DMSJagXK some cars are registered as motorbikes for licences due to the power threshold as well, one of this type is the electrical Renault '2 seats in line'..at least here in Ireland can be driven in bus lanes due to motorbike category.
KGrowlo clip is the reason I don't respond to random social media posts about ride meet ups. Even his buddy didn't know where the fuck he was turning, so how was the random harley guy supposed to know? "Don'T RiDe WiTh Us TheN" lmao i wouldn't ride with you and your grom buddies either. and MWS clip was top tier cringe. I skip anything labled Suron.
When a bike doesnt have blinkers, its common sense to use your hands to signal where you are turning, same for bicycles. Since a lane is a 1 veicule only and the rider signaled with plentty of time, its the Harley's guy fault.
@@flaviol3978 the issue is he wasn’t using the universal turns, which is typically with your left arm. Fully extended for Left turn, arm out with elbow at 90° with a fist for right turn. He’s just whipping his hands around expecting others to just know
If you don’t know hand signals stay off a bike and definitely stay out of group rides. Cause even IF he didn’t see the hand signal, as dude slowed to make the turn the Harley jackass would’ve been trying to pass him on the right.
@Noah Acton Haha I'm glad they gave the brainless little dipsh;t a ticket. He's a dumbass and needs to stay off the road on that useless unlicensed electric piece of sh#t.
@@Secretguy2078 He was doing something illegal and the cop wanted to write him a warning after double-checking that it was indeed illegal. The cop was being cool, but the kid was clueless.
On the federal level, the definition of an electric bicycle has three elements: The bicycle has two or three wheels and has operable pedals The electric motor is less than one horsepower (750 watts) The maximum speed is 20 mph
Its not their job to know the laws, if they knew the law they'd be lawyers. They are law _enforcers_ . Smart people tell them what the law is, and they enforce it.
@@khatdubell it's an electric bicycle, he doesn't know that? I guess you're correct, "smart people" tell them the law. Nothing against cops BTW but this guy was a d!ck.
Be aware that in some states such as Arizona, bicycles are legal to ride on the streets with vehicles, so long as people follow traffic laws. If you intend to ride your bike on traffic lanes, you should first search up whether or not your state made bicycle and vehicle sharing legal on streets.
EBikes with no pedals dont classify as a bisycle and fall under motor vehicle laws. Meaning they have to be registered, insured etc. Not sure if wisconsin has that, but from my knowledge most states do.
6:37 Seriously why is it called an E-Bike. It clearly is an electric motorbike. To me this is no different to a cop stopping someone who is unlicensed and unregistered in an electric vehicle and the driver telling the cop this is an E-Car. Its legal.
its cause its NOT a bicycle. my E-bike that i can pedal ill hit 45mph EZ, this you cant pedal that means that it is a electric motorbike, not electric motorized bicycle. the dude is dumb if he thinks that is a E-bike
For the guy with the e-bike: "Local and state regulations may vary. In general, electric bikes are regulated like bicycles. The same rules of the road usually apply to both e-bikes and human-powered bicycles. E-bikes are not subject to the registration, licensing, or insurance requirements that apply to motor vehicles. Many states designates three classes of e-bikes: Class 1: Bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 20 mph. Class 2: Bicycle equipped with a throttle-actuated motor, that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 20 mph. Class 3: Bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 28 mph." His e-bike has no pedals His e-bike goes over 28mph. (he alone said that it goes 30mph) Therefore its illegal, the cop was in no way a bad cop.
And, depending on where you live, operating a vehicle (including a bike) makes you subject to ID laws, even if you don't legally need to possess an ID to operate one. This would have been a big nothing burger if he had just handed him his ID. But he wanted to be a hotshot "I KNOW MY RIGHTS", 'I'M A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN" type person. Except you find out those people usual _don't_ know the law, or their rights, or much of anything.
On the e-bike, the first question by the officer was “Do you peddle it?” And the answer was “No.” At that point, it is a motorized vehicle only, not a motor assist vehicle - as he tried to imply. In my state, anything with a motor requires a license to operate. Small cc motor bikes operated on the road do not require a registration, but they do require a basic drivers license. You would need the M-class for anything over 49cc, as that would be a motorcycle. So this guy trying to convince the cop that his motorized vehicle is “just an e-bike”, as in electric assisted bicycle, is being entirely dishonest and he seems to know it. For the group ride twats: you know what also makes a good turn signal? Actual turn signals like those on road legal bikes. Yes, the one twat made a hand signal, with the wrong arm, from the left hand lane position for a right turn. He was already in the wrong having a illegal bike on the street, never mind not knowing the correct signaling for a turn. A dude who looks over 50, has no business riding with little kids.
i agree with both paragraphs you said. If the e-bike dude would have given his id, there would most likely be no issue. And the group riding dude put his hand out for a right turn too early
0:19 So if this is in the US, surely that's the cruising lane? and the right hand one is for overtaking? Soooo, the rider tried to undertake and is surprised that happened?
@@sjaisie The US does not dictate traffic lanes, the individual States do.... so you will find it varies... While there may not be a specific fine for the action, if you cause an accident passing on the right you are 100% in the wrong in most places in North America... The general rule is keep right except to pass, and pass to the left... but if you policed this on the big freeways you'd quickly go insane :P
1:22 I know it doesn’t sound as if I was stopping because of the beeping but before I beeped and I saw him turn you can hear my back tire start skiing as I locked the wheel to stop. Right before the horn goes off. Then after, you can hear my engine starting off again. It was just super close.
Tbh the officer seemed chill at the start. Sometimes if your polite and respectful it will just end as a chat. It got me out of a fine and points on my license 😅
@@ChaosTheory666 I'm willing to bet if he gave him his ID they would have let him go immediately, if you have nothing to hide handing over your ID is an easy way to let the officer keep his cool and feel important, gotta play the game to avoid conflict.
@@leftlanelanny4707 I think we can do one better than that. If hes got kids and a wife. hes probably already fucked...... We all assume he writes tickets because his brainwashing is real. With your head so far up your ass. He tastes the shit but doesnt realize he is the reason shit is the way it is. Even his partner was still not comprehending what he did wrong.
Nope, he was cool, and the guy on the bike was a douche. No pedals, not an e-bike but a moped or scooter and must be registered. Sur Rons are not street legal in most states, unless registered.
@@BB-1990 You are right lets give up our guns while were out riding e bikes ladies and gentlemen. Gonna go even more in-depth on the hypothetical. Imagine me a cop and you driving a handy caped electrically assisted w/e to the store for means of life.... and i decide today you look like a nice easy piece of meat to fuck with.....BAM dont become handicapped or worse fat you might get a ticket.
The Sur Ron ebike is a legal gray area. It's classified as a regular ebike, unmodified. As it doesn't achieve speeds higher than 35 mph stock. Because it's electric, it's basically a big scooter, but also like motorbike by appearance. It both is and isn't street legal. Which is stressful if you don't have a pedal kit installed on it. I feel bad for the dude 8 at 6:36. PEVs (personal electric vehicles) are still very niche and likely won't get more legal mandates until they're a *LOT* more common in places especially unknown for having rental EVs on street corners.
Cop retaliation about the E-bike!!! Was nice at first until the guy said no ID. If you haven't committed a crime you don't have to ID. Cops need to start reading the memo's and laws!!!
You to go ahead and read the law, you have to show id if you're being detained in the state of Wisconsin, he is detained as the police officer conducted a traffic stop on him. What do you really think the officer is going to do with your id? Just show it and the officer probably would've been like alright just take it home and don't come back out
@@SwaggawagonNSDQ the officer has to have a reasonable articulable suspicion that he is committing a crime, has committed a crime, or is about to commit a crime in order to legally detain him. The officer didn't know if he was committing a crime or not therefore I'm not sure this stop was legal at all.
@@joshuagriffin3184 well sure he has that, he sees what looks like a motorcycle without a license plate, he pulls him over, he's not going to just take the word on the person he's pulled over that what he's doing is legal
New rider here, have a 650cc suzuki bandit but not sure if it should be the first bike as my daily rider.. I've taken it for drives and I can handle it well but the power scares me at times. Im a smaller guy at 5'6 180 pounds, Would it be a smarter idea to downsize instead of continuing on the 650cc bandit? Looking for honest opinions, love the bike it's my dream but would rather stay alive to ride again so my brain is stuck trying to decide what's best 😕 any insight with my issue would be much appreciated and I'm open to every view. Hope everyone stays safe 🙏 steer clear of the crazies
If the bike scares you, it’s not for you. Now, you could grow into it, but it sounds like you should have started smaller. Did you take a rider’s course?
As with most things, start small and work your way up. BUT, that being said, I've seen a grown man let a clutch-less Honda 70 get away from him because he lacked experience.
Not a snowball chance in hell! It's a traffic stop, and he gave him a hard time, technically speaking he could've been cited and arrested for failure to identify himself during a traffic stop. The officer telling him you're giving me a hard time so now I'm going to right you as many tickets as I can, will have no bearing in court, as that is completely legal and well in the officers right to do so.
Do you beat your spouse with 40% higher likely hood than your neighbor…because if so, then you’d be a fine police officer 👍…oh almost forgot, you need to be scared of everyone and believe your job is extremely dangerous even though it doesn’t even rank in the top 10 most hazardous professions in the US
If you like fishing for a reason to ticket the people you swore an oath to protect and do it in a very douchey manor, you and the cop at 8:45 would get along great
@@G19Jeeper If you like fishing to show the cop you're a bad ass and do it in a douchey way then don't bitch when you get a ticket.....Do you even realize how many fucktards roam the earth and the cops get the great job of dealing with them.....I'm willing to bet your kind of douchey
The last guy didnt realise that their bike is classed as an electric motorcycle, not an electronic bicycle, don't know how they didnt know or realise because there are no foot pedals. Also even if you are on a bicycle that doesnt change the fact that it was a traffic stop and thus when asked the rider should have given identification. Im from australia and it seem as if i know more about american traffic law than this rider.
In my state pedals or not if it can’t top 30 it’s an electric bicycle and can not be registered and there’s a good chance that’s how it is where he lives.
In ireland the surron is now classified as an electric motorcycle, And electric powered bikes or stand up scooters that can go over 25kph must be taxed insured and you must have an AM classified licence for its use
Punishing someone for 'making their life hard' is not how policing should work. Why would having his ID help them decide if the bike was legal to be on the road or not?
Not an expert, but I think that checking his id will tell them if he’s the owner of the vehicle, if it’s registered, if it’s insured or any of a number of other things
It was a traffic stop the officer was performing thus means when asked to give your ID you do it, it's that simple. The cop was cool up until the dude refused to give up his ID. He's on the road just like anyone else else including bicyclists have to obey the laws.
The rider already stated it was not registered as it was classified as a bicycle. The officer did not know if he was committing a traffic infraction so if they are not in a stop and i.d. state then the rider would not have to provide identification as he was not or not about to commit a crime. What he should have done was look at the traffic code with the rider and find out. They would both learn something and no identification would be required to do that
Those E-Bikes really get close to the line of electric motorcycle sometimes. That e-bike looks a lot like an actual motorcycle. The cop can definitely ask for an ID and see if the rider has a registered motorcycle and tell if the bike is a bicycle or an electric motorcycle. I'm sure if someone wanted to hide their vehicle specifications, they would lie. Could have avoided all this by just IDing.
They can ask but unless you’ve committed a crime, they can’t obligate you to show ID which is what that cop was doing. The laws would define what an e bike is which is what the cop should have looked into first. If determined it is a vehicle requiring registration THEN you would be obligated to ID. No one can be expected to know everything but if you don’t know then you should find out before being a dick like this cop.
Classic example of 'Contempt of Cop'. That guy needs to ride a desk until he learns to de-escalate and that failure to ID is a secondary crime, not a reason to violate someone's 4th amendment rights. I mean the cop clearly states he has no idea what this is, but then he is sure it's in violation. Innocent until proven guilty? Not in Wisconsin apparently...
“Do you have ID?” “Sure, here.” “Thanks.” “No problem.” That’s literally as easy as it is. Why this is a problem for seemingly SO many people is honestly beyond me 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Seriously though that cop seemed cool. He should've just complied. 100% if he produced the documents the cop wanted he would've been fine. I'm sure the cop would let it slide
The issue is that if he was on a bicycle then he doesn't need to present ID. It's seen as the same as walking down the street. You only have to provide a driver's license if you are driving a motor vehicle which he wasn't.
@@82zkartracer Sure. But if I happen to look really similar to a wanted felon and a police officer stops me as I’m walking to work, would I rather give him my genuine ID politely - because there’s no issue with me, I’ve done nothing wrong, making his job quick and easy and clearing up the matter without any hassle before continuing on my way - OR do I refuse on the grounds that “I don’t have to” like a petulant 13 year old, now reenforcing to the police officer that I may have done something wrong, or that I may not want him to know my name for whatever reason. Or maybe I’m just being a dick to him. You don’t know what’s going on in his head, or at the station. But acting immediately snarky and defensive as opposed to polite and agreeable won’t get you anywhere.
It's a motor vehicle, if it would have gas instead of electricity you would call it a motor vehicle also. Its big, doesn't have head lights, no mirrors no plate and it's driving on a road, if it would be an e-bike it would have pedals... A motor is a motor and a bike is a bike...
The mouthy guy on the the E-bike at the end sounds like he could’ve saved himself a lot of trouble if he’d just given his ID to the cop when he first asked. Wether who was right etc. I don’t blame the cop for giving him a traffic ticket. Give up your damn I.D/ License whenever a law enforcement officer asks! Common sense.
oh if he'd just obeyed, like a good little serf... Pigs can do what ever they want, they don't need to abide by the laws... pigs are our masters just obey... SHFU mor-on bootlicker. people like you are why pigs are so use to violating peoples rights.
On then single track roads in the uk you only have to be doing 30mph an thats enough to get caught out when i was 14 i was out on my pitbike doing roughly 30 35mph and a asda delivery van took me out coming the other way i broke my right pinky and hurt my shoulder but i was alright the bike ride-able i told the driver to just leave it and say you hit a pigeon ect she was so scared cuz i was a kid lmao but just one of them things dont hurt to just cruise once in a while but still
yeh I was going a bit too quick when heading in to that corner at 35mph, I'm lucky that there wasn't anything worse around that corner. This is definetly a lesson I luckily didn't have to learn the hard way.
They aren’t putting that e-bike ticket in the system. They do that 9/10 times since they know they are in the wrong after their little power trip. That way they feel tough and face no repercussions in court.
@@scuffedclips1 Its a grey area in most places so in most cases its "technically" not a motor vehicle that needs to be registered. If that guy actually gets that ticket put into the system, he can have a field day in court.
@@scuffedclips1 how about you learn the law before you come into the comments thinking you know everything. There are no federal mandates on riding e-bikes on the road. It’s up to the individual states to decide, to which most say e-bikes are classified as regular bikes. Other states only allow them to drive on roads with a speed limit of 25mph or less. If he looked up the state law and is correct, he can go to court and get it dismissed since these officers stated they’ve never seen them and don’t know but are giving tickets. Get a life keyboard warrior.
It's a motor vehicle, if it would have gas instead of electricity you would call it a motor vehicle also. Its big, doesn't have head lights, no mirrors no plate and it's driving on a road, if it would be an e-bike it would have pedals...
Lmao, are you kidding me. An E-Bike doesn't have to be registered to be on the road. I own two of those types of bikes. One has pedals and one is like his (in the last video.) So where do those cops find that they can legally pull him over and issue a citation or ticket? Complete bullshit
@@freeflymonkey I honestly don't know why they bother us about our bikes. Yes, they're different and only a few years old. But it's not like we're riding an unregistered motorcycle.
@@TheHanson anything to make a quick buck for the city. you gotta be pretty low iq to be bothering ppl on e-bikes, not hurting anyone and out enjoying nature.
That E-Bicycle is not a bicycle, it has no peddles to assist in forward movement. It is a motorized bike powered by an electric battery in place of gas. It has to be rated by speed it can do. That storm is coming.
@@quinten200 disgusting? why i was pulled over that night not a long time ago, showed my id, the cop checked and i was free to go after 2 minutes. ez pz people these days snowflake over almost everything, that what makes everything complicated.
You spineless jelly cowards who just agree and don’t say no are the problem with society, weak pathetic boys this is how you lose your rights and freedom. Wise up.
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Man I sure do love the clips of bikers going 250kmph then getting mad at a car that changes lanes 1 km ahead
these bikers are nothing but whiny karen beaches
Exactly
Wtf man you almost killed me!!!
28 escape routes
Yeah and people have to check thier blind spots as well as wait an appropriate time to merge hahaha
They don't stay mad for long cuz there dead.
It's always a lovely day when I can start it with some biker road rage!
Dude in the woods got straight up jousted by nature and nature won. Lol 😂 glad he was ok though. ✌️
Straight yeeted to destination f@#ked!🤣
LOL, he almost ended up with his head on a pike.
it was the ghost of vlad the impaler
1:16 So the guy going 43kph on a tiny blind road is wondering why the other guy is going so quick? LOL
It's UK so 43mph, about 65/70kph. Totally agree!
@@StuHolland Ah. Looked fast to me, but I assumed that the UK was on KPH too.
I was going 35mph when I got to the corner, but despite that yes I completely agree, I was going too fast. I just said what I said because of the shock and as soon as I got home and reviewed the footage, I realised I was completely wrong in what I said
@@Stanley88845 and yet here it is on the channel, if that's true why post it and make it seem like the truck driver was in the wrong? Then check the comments to see what others think
@@tylerc7336 never made the truck out to be in the wrong. All I've said is it's my fault and that I said what I said due to to the shock of the situation.
That last one.. Textbook harassment. You explained what it is, so them disagreeing with it and thinking you asking questions is "giving them a hard time" so they write a citation is an abuse of power. Take that shit to court and argue it all day long.
S502T; Sometimes it's difficult to see who's at fault in collisions. But you made it easy to see who is. Thanks for that!
0:25 Hey truck driver, can't you see I'm doing 95 mph here you reckless driver you !!
this channel really has the wrong name it should be angry bikers vs normal drivers
Shouldn't be in the mid lane with a trailer, and if you're gonna merge use your indicator. Not excusing the speeding, but if those 2 weren't in the "not slow" lanes he wouldn't be in that position. Nor would he have been if he slowed down, but slowing down and staying in one place makes drivers stop paying attention to you
@@WaterMelon-gv4ye regardless, passing on the right or non passing lanes in most places, at least where i am from is illegal, so when you do it you are taking a risk
@@WaterMelon-gv4ye So you're just going to ignore the fact that the retard going well over the speed limit isn't the issue here? You should drop whatever drugs you're on. Fault lies with the clown rider. 100%.
@@WaterMelon-gv4ye Im sorry....what traffic law states trucks with trailers arent allowed in the middle lane? Also, what law states that motorcyclists can go over the speed limit and pass on the right. Dont worry....Ill wait for your educated response.....
Pretty sure its unjust to threaten someone into agreeing with you as a police officer. "Im gonna write you as many tickets as I can if you make this hard for me" Shows how fragile this boys ego is
Only for a self entitled brainless little moron like the Surron rider
But he got what he deserved. A ticket 🤣
I've lost count of how many times the cops have let me off because I've been nice to them and answered questions. It ain't rocket science you little princess's
@@wradford1 wow you must come from stupid town!
@@wradford1 he was being respectfull. He doesnt need to ride his c*ck so he can be let off like you do.
@evobsm2328
Being nice costs nothing
But being an ahole gets pretty expensive.
But, hey, I'll let you find that out for yourself.
@evobsm2328
Ok, you self entitled little turd 🤣
Good luck paying all those tickets you got coming 👍
So many of these bikers act like princesses
In us it depends on the ebike if its street legal or not however in uk i think any e bike without pedals is registered as a motorbike
Pretty much. THere's some bits and peices about power outpu and whatnot, but the key thing is the pedals. If you can pedal it normally and the motor just provides assistance, then it's an e-bike. If you require the motor to make it go, then it's a motor vehicle.
Oversimplifying, but meh...
Just a kid who was picked on in school who is now a wisconsin cop. That's how most of them act around here
It actually depends on the state here, since ebikes are relatively new and not common in some areas, the laws can sometimes not draw boundaries between ebike and e motorcycle causing confusion. for example some states dont mandate pedals as long as the power output/speed is low enough, other states literally dont have a single thing in the entire legal code mentioning electric bikes whatsoever.
@Dougal Douglas haha, yeah. I guess it can be confusing. Where I live there is basically no laws about it, so if what you are riding looks like a bicycle and you are going a reasonable speed, you will probably have no issues whatsoever, and if what you are riding looks like a moped/scooter and goes less then 30mph you will also probably have no issues, if what you are riding goes more than 30mph you will probably want to have it registered and have plates and insurance. This is because most cops will probably just try to apply our laws about regular motor bikes when dealing with you. Again, because my state hasn't actually written any ebike laws.
I'm just glad the little idiot got a ticket.
Now all he needs is a brain that's not so self entitled. Just remember all you little boys, If you give the cops shit they're gonna make you eat it 😂🤣
Cops are like: - We are clueless about the laws, but we give you a ticked for not identifying yourself in a situation you didn't have to identify yourself.
Yikes...
But he did have to ID since the cop gave him RAS.
5:55 NEVER pass a vehicle that's not fully finished it's lane-change, it can always abort it's lane change legally without needing to check for intruders
thank you, i have never been taught it so i didnt know
@@ChubMonsta Most places the driver is considered in control of the lane until they have left the lane completely, for multiple reasons but one is it allows them be be able to abort the lane change if something happens in the lane they are moving to. I know it is tempting to pass especially on a bike but I have learned the hard way to wait.
what was he even mad about in this one? truck wasnt even close to hitting this guy?
Legal or not should not matter when you are on a motorcycle. Your life, and knowing that people are unpredictable, is all that should be taken into account. With that said, you should never drive a car or a motorcycle thinking you have rights. You don't. You have responsibilities. In most places, the first rule of the traffic laws is that you first and foremost have a responsibility to make sure the users of a road are safe.
So cops can hand out "as many tickets as they can" to anyone they say is "giving them a hard time and making their life difficult"?
And they wonder why people have zero respect for them.
Yes they can if someone is being extra uncooperative they will not give them the benefit of the doubt. If you are friendly and give your ID then they will likely take it easy. Not that difficult. Also the guy was on a traffic stop which you are required to show ID.
Ask for an ID is not a crime, you know
@@paolorametta9198 Makes no sense yes obviously ask for ID isnt a crime. But a traffic stop officers are required to ask to identify
@@sq5458 How that sh-it on the bottom of a boot taste?...
@@sq5458 yes of course. And despite everything, the agents also had a lot of patience. Here in Italy the situation is worse 😂
2:05 - What did you think was going to happen? Some situational awareness might save your life.
hate when bikers get mad at people for not seeing them even tho theyre going 90 in the slow lane
We're motorcycles the rules don't apply to us, we can do whatever TF we want 🤙🏍
Kinda hard not to see someone going above the speed limit in the fast or slow lane, anyone that doesn’t see u is clearly not paying attention period
@@atomicmoney2140 yea na rules apply to you guys as well ride like an ass around me and best know your ass is getting knocked the fuck off your bike and knocked the fuck out. Quit that entitlement bullshit
@@outlawmafia6645 If you're speeding and you get in an accident its your fault
@@atomicmoney2140 agreed especially since its hard for us to slow traffic in the least bit lmfao to anyome who gets mad calm your tits and laugh a little
2:17 if you see traffic, maybe that’s a sign not to speed as you filter?
not even filtering, he straight up went into the oncoming traffic lane
Mans got lanced off his bike. 😃
4:25
I mean dude was right, but nothing worse than that friend in the group that always tries to make a point by asking 4-5 people “ Did you see me do this or that” and puts you on the spot like that 😅😂
💯
He wasn't right, though. He stuck his hand out basically at the turn, not giving the group behind him enough time, and that's not even the correct hand signal for a right turn on a bike anyway. The other guy was overreacting for sure, but the guy with the camera was wrong from the beginning.
Живемо лише ра - Following an emergency vehicle that has lights on is illegal almost everywhere
S502T - A bit impatient weren't ya, wrong side of the road and whatnot
It's not illegal in the UK but it's and unwritten rule that you allow people who move over for an emergency vehicle to retake their lane.
Trying to force your way past then is fcuking bad manners and asking for somebody to punch your lights out. It's the sort of self entitled behaviour we expect from BMW or Audi drivers, not bikers.
Need To Learn Arm Signals.. LEFT ARM is used to signal left.. Right. Slow and stop. I thought they were pointing at something and I saw this video a few times.
Thank you for mentioning this. Goes to show that he doesn’t belong on the road.
Yup lol
Been watching you guys since the old days still as golden as i remember
Me too man literally since 2016 or so can’t even remember it’s been that long now haha!
I remember since 2017, still love this channel.
@@IllyCycles aye long time ago
1:56 that mirror smash was so deserved
Looked more like a little girl slap.
No mirror smash is deserved and only a retard would do it. I hope anyone who smashes a mirror gets knocked off in retaliation and claim it as an accident.
Nah
3:20 - "Are you not paying attention to hand signals?" Dude gave the hand signal AT the fucking turn. 🤣
Man that cop must live a very rough life, poor little guy was having a hard time 🥺☹
if this surron is not a motorcycle then what is he doin' at this channel? and this boy is poor if he doesn't know what is he ridin
@@damiankaczmarek4058 Surron is legally a moped
@@damiankaczmarek4058 They've had regular bikes on here before.
Yeah youre right, hes got a very rough life for dealing with entitled br*cks like the "poor little guy".
The "angry harley rider" was in the right forsure lmao, definitely not fhe right hand signals it looked like u were just pointing
A e-bike needs to have pedals to be considered an e-bike. Even if you don't have to pedal it, it's fact you have an option to pedal is what makes it one
thats what i was thinking
That cop is on a power trip
it's Wisconsin...they all power trip.
Yeah retaliation at its finest. He cannot legally ID the rider without RAS which he admits several times he does not have but still proceeds to lean on his QI to hassle the tax payer in front of him.
FTP.
I could not tell you the law in Wisconsin, but in my state, an electric bicycle would have to have peddles. If not, It would be classified as a motorcycle and have to follow all the motorcycle laws.
In CT, a scooter of 49cc and can go no faster than 35 or an ebike that is limited to 35MPH it only requires a drivers license (not Motorcycle). No registration or insurance is required. You are to ride on the side of the road unless you are turning left or avoiding something o the side of the road. You can ride in the road if you can do the speed limit. This would be roads that have a limit of anything under 35. I rode a modified scooter that was bored out to 88cc and I was able to hit 55MPH and never had an issue, even when riding in a neighboring state. This cop was just playing god.
Yup, the kid didn't cower to the uniform so the pig was gonna make him pay.
2:00 a very justified mirror smack
Idk about that 😂
@@kevinerickson84 It is
Watching moto madness should help people become better driver's or bike riders for sure so take note and take care 🙂
If the biker had have given the cop his ID and was let off with a warning most people in the comments would have been praising the cop and rambling on about how it made their day so much better and what a beautiful human being the officer was
Yeah but an e-bike goes in the same category as bicycles, so the cop cant ask for your ID
Just because you don't know your rights doesn't mean others shouldn't stand up for theirs.
@@flaviol3978 yeah if he had pedals, morons all you guys.
@@flaviol3978 Doesn’t an e bike usually have pedals? That was purely motorized, so probably considered an electric motorcycle.
@@flaviol3978 That depends on the jurisdiction, actually.
In AZ, they can. In AZ they can demand ID for operating a bicycle on the road. Not motorized, just a regular bike.
So unless you actually happen to know the laws of whereeverthefuck this video is from...🤷♂
3:03 this is a good advertisement for having bright and visible turn signals equipped. Yes, some older bikes do not have them, which leaves you with hand signals, but the hand signal should be held up to the point of the turn. If you're using hand signals, you have to be deliberate about it. Additionally, holding the right hand out is not the signal for a right turn. The hand signal for a right turn is: left arm out and bent up at the elbow, left hand straight up with palm facing foreward. Yep, Harley guy should have been paying more attention, but there are things we can all do to make sure we are clear about our intentions.
Could the rider also position himself closer to the right to show his intentions more because it looks like hes more to the left of the road imo
Holding the right hand out is a perfectly acceptable signal for a right turn on a vehicle with no cabin. In fact, it's a much better signal than using your left hand (where it may not be seen by people on your right side i.e. in the direction you're turning). However... turning right from the left side of the lane is a pretty bad idea.
I'm starting to think pickups don't come equipped with turn signals, have never seen one use them.
You just don't understand, cerebellicose! They don't HAVE to use turn signals - they're special because they drive a pickup!
@@davesimmons8640 ohhhh...I get it now, if only someone had explained it to me sooner
@@cerebellicose Glad to help.
Mybe if BMW makes a pickup the both negatives would cancel out and they would use indicators
@@rubenvanderhoeven1700 🤣 if douchemobiles behaved like mathematical integers
Depending on where the cop clip at 6:37 takes place if a cop asks you to present identification, there are statutes in place that state you must even if you didn't commit any crime.
Edit: It was just generally a weird ass interaction the way all parties involved are talking to each other.
@@acepilotson3331 im jus informed about our laws man
@@TheVoicedFlame naw. You don’t. Such laws violate the 4th amendment and have been struck down. You can’t give a false name during a consensual encounter, you can refuse to identify though. Unless there is “reasonable articulable suspicion of you having committed, are committing or are about to commit a crime”. Terry v Ohio.
@@acepilotson3331 which id say here could be argued there is because as far as that officer is aware that dude coulda been lying whatever. yeah its sumn stupid but i could see it being argued there was "reasonable" suspicion
@@TheVoicedFlame you claimed there are states that police can “stop and ID you” without reason.
@@acepilotson3331 nah nah i aint mean it like that, i meant even if you know you havent done anything, and they suspect you, they can ask. sorry if i worded it like that.
No angry D?! Hallelujah
Dude shoulda gave the cop his id bro dude was cool just trying to figure it out, my thing is when a cop is cool and chill with you you give them all the respect back because good cops are hard to find
To be honest, I think the cop was right. That thing didn't have pedals so it isn't a bicycle. It's an electric motorcycle. It's just like a 50cc scooter.
6:38 that is not an "E-bike." An e-bike is an "electric bicycle." E-bikes have pedals, just like mopeds. That is an electric motorcycle. Electric motorcycles have to be registered as motor-vehicles in every jurisdiction I know of in the US. They have to follow the same rules for lighting, safety equipment, registration, and licensing as other motorcycles. Jurisdictions do vary, but under all those with which I am familiar, that is not an e-bike.
its an ebike dumbass. he can put pedals on it, he just chose to have pegs, which the police don't like to see because it confuses them with suck a low iq.
Yeah some people can't comprehend this for some reason smh
No the cop is supposed to take the bikers word for it and move on jeez cop is such a jerk for enforcing the laws
i hate those types of people he says "sport mode just gives you more tork but it can only go 30mph" and he is even lying it can go 45mph if upgraded 65mph i fkn hate these types of people
@@sq5458 there is no vin, there is no law to enforce, they are a class 3 ebike. they are just being typical cops.
At least in Europe, all the electric bikes, scooters, etc, can go on the public road if there isn't one dedicated for it like a bike lane. U can go no more than 30km/h on it and u don't to license or insurance for it. I see this the same situation same if the guy was going on a normal bike and the police stops u and write you a ticket.
its 25kmh
@@esthelp751 you're right
You also still need pedals.
@@linkgroundwalker U don't, I don't need pedals on my Xiaomi Mi Scooter
@@linkgroundwalker you can ride mopeds/scooters in these zones but st a reduced speed and they don’t have pedals so that’s clearly incorrect. Is an motorised wheel chair a motor vehicle? Technically yes but you don’t need a license or insurance to ride that
I am interested in these e-bike laws by state though. There is an argument to be made that they should classified as mopeds, which don't need to be registered, but exceeding 35 mph on a moped in GA or exceed 50cc you can be issued a citation for speeding or excess engine size. But do electric bikes have a stator size limit? Who knows.
Class 3 e-bike: 20mph limit throttle only, 28mph limit on pedal assist.
Speeding through slow traffic. Perfect way to eat some asphalt.
Two wheels and pedals make a bicycle son. It’s a E motorcycle son. 🤣
didn’t the last guy say his bike was motorised but then proceed to say it wasn’t when the cop asked for his license?
Not at all.... As it like all ebikes does certainly have a motor.... but it is under the power threshold to be considered a "Motor Vehicle" in the eyes of the government...
He was saying it has a motor, but is not considered a motor vehicle ... Which is usually how these Sur-Rons are handled... like Bicycles...
If you want to be technical, any driving force is a motor, therefore the human body on a bicycle is in fact the motor....
Most municipalities consider 50 CC and under as non motor vehicles, and do not require licensing ... they are the same as bicycles
Not an ETE it’s bike not a vehicle.
Most cars etc. run off an engine. Engines run off fuel, motors off electricity. However, electric cars still have to have insurance etc. It might well not be classified as a vehicle due to its low power?
@@DMSJagXK engines still have motors in them. It’s not a motor vehicle because it’s capped below 50cc or 30 miles per hour. It’s just a motor assisted bicycle but without the pedals. If you took your electric bike, took off the pedals it doesn’t stop being a bike. If you wanna think of it as like Slowest motorcycle that’s fine but under the legal classification that it’s bicycle speeds that it isn’t a motor vehicle in the eyes of the law even if it technically is
@@DMSJagXK some cars are registered as motorbikes for licences due to the power threshold as well, one of this type is the electrical Renault '2 seats in line'..at least here in Ireland can be driven in bus lanes due to motorbike category.
That guy with an E bike is a danger to society driving like this on the side of the road, i am so happy these cops stopped this dangerous criminal
KGrowlo clip is the reason I don't respond to random social media posts about ride meet ups. Even his buddy didn't know where the fuck he was turning, so how was the random harley guy supposed to know? "Don'T RiDe WiTh Us TheN" lmao i wouldn't ride with you and your grom buddies either.
and MWS clip was top tier cringe.
I skip anything labled Suron.
When a bike doesnt have blinkers, its common sense to use your hands to signal where you are turning, same for bicycles. Since a lane is a 1 veicule only and the rider signaled with plentty of time, its the Harley's guy fault.
@@flaviol3978 A bike without a blinker is not to be driven on the road.
@@flaviol3978 the issue is he wasn’t using the universal turns, which is typically with your left arm. Fully extended for Left turn, arm out with elbow at 90° with a fist for right turn. He’s just whipping his hands around expecting others to just know
If you don’t know hand signals stay off a bike and definitely stay out of group rides. Cause even IF he didn’t see the hand signal, as dude slowed to make the turn the Harley jackass would’ve been trying to pass him on the right.
@@Kimse05 - Where I live motorcycle are not required to have turn signals to be on the road.
Not into a mirror smashing but at 1:58 I can look the other way🤪
“I’m not trying to give you a hard time”….proceeds to give him a hard time over nothing.
It is something he wasn’t doing anything illegal why does he need to id himself the officer didn’t know the code so its not the bikers fault
@@Secretguy2078 if his not doing anything wrong why not give him ur id and be on your way. so dumb honestly
@Noah Acton
Haha I'm glad they gave the brainless little dipsh;t a ticket. He's a dumbass and needs to stay off the road on that useless unlicensed electric piece of sh#t.
Right… like him getting his name is going to determine that the bike is street legal or not…?
@@Secretguy2078 He was doing something illegal and the cop wanted to write him a warning after double-checking that it was indeed illegal. The cop was being cool, but the kid was clueless.
You can tell these cops don't know their own law.
On the federal level, the definition of an electric bicycle has three elements:
The bicycle has two or three wheels and has operable pedals
The electric motor is less than one horsepower (750 watts)
The maximum speed is 20 mph
Its not their job to know the laws, if they knew the law they'd be lawyers.
They are law _enforcers_ .
Smart people tell them what the law is, and they enforce it.
@@khatdubell it's an electric bicycle, he doesn't know that? I guess you're correct, "smart people" tell them the law. Nothing against cops BTW but this guy was a d!ck.
@@tboman4128 a federal definition wouldn't really be relevant to a typical traffic stop. The relevant law would be state level and local ordinances
@@khatdubell you contradicted yourself. how can someone enforce a law if it's 'not their job' to know said laws?
Be aware that in some states such as Arizona, bicycles are legal to ride on the streets with vehicles, so long as people follow traffic laws. If you intend to ride your bike on traffic lanes, you should first search up whether or not your state made bicycle and vehicle sharing legal on streets.
Heh? I don't know if any jurisdictions where bicycles are legal to ride on the sidewalk..it's always the road.
EBikes with no pedals dont classify as a bisycle and fall under motor vehicle laws. Meaning they have to be registered, insured etc. Not sure if wisconsin has that, but from my knowledge most states do.
@@3pixsfilming I didn't see it had no pedals. I must have missed it. In that case, it was probably a bad idea to ride in on the road.
@@azo5000 What's the difference between an Ebike with or without pedals?
@@NoCommie
Depending on where you live, it can be a lot, or nothing at all.
Helps to know your local laws.
I love your channel! It makes me happy
Same
Excited to watch this 🙌🏼🔥
I wish more clips from the uk should do diffrent countrys every week some right madness on the uk roads
“Determine what I believe it is” like his opinion is law lol
6:37 Seriously why is it called an E-Bike. It clearly is an electric motorbike. To me this is no different to a cop stopping someone who is unlicensed and unregistered in an electric vehicle and the driver telling the cop this is an E-Car. Its legal.
its cause its NOT a bicycle. my E-bike that i can pedal ill hit 45mph EZ, this you cant pedal that means that it is a electric motorbike, not electric motorized bicycle. the dude is dumb if he thinks that is a E-bike
Clearly you're a mor-on, so your opinion doesn't matter...
Depends on the state. Sadly some states havent actually clarified the boundraries between ebike, and e motorcycle.
Retaliatory tickets? That’ll be pissed away in court with this video evidence.
For the guy with the e-bike:
"Local and state regulations may vary. In general, electric bikes are regulated like bicycles. The same rules of the road usually apply to both e-bikes and human-powered bicycles. E-bikes are not subject to the registration, licensing, or insurance requirements that apply to motor vehicles.
Many states designates three classes of e-bikes:
Class 1: Bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 20 mph.
Class 2: Bicycle equipped with a throttle-actuated motor, that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 20 mph.
Class 3: Bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 28 mph."
His e-bike has no pedals
His e-bike goes over 28mph. (he alone said that it goes 30mph)
Therefore its illegal, the cop was in no way a bad cop.
And, depending on where you live, operating a vehicle (including a bike) makes you subject to ID laws, even if you don't legally need to possess an ID to operate one.
This would have been a big nothing burger if he had just handed him his ID.
But he wanted to be a hotshot "I KNOW MY RIGHTS", 'I'M A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN" type person.
Except you find out those people usual _don't_ know the law, or their rights, or much of anything.
Id have put a complaint in about that cop, got all vindictive "im gonna write as many tickets as i can now cause you spoke back to me"
On the e-bike, the first question by the officer was “Do you peddle it?” And the answer was “No.” At that point, it is a motorized vehicle only, not a motor assist vehicle - as he tried to imply. In my state, anything with a motor requires a license to operate. Small cc motor bikes operated on the road do not require a registration, but they do require a basic drivers license. You would need the M-class for anything over 49cc, as that would be a motorcycle. So this guy trying to convince the cop that his motorized vehicle is “just an e-bike”, as in electric assisted bicycle, is being entirely dishonest and he seems to know it.
For the group ride twats: you know what also makes a good turn signal? Actual turn signals like those on road legal bikes. Yes, the one twat made a hand signal, with the wrong arm, from the left hand lane position for a right turn. He was already in the wrong having a illegal bike on the street, never mind not knowing the correct signaling for a turn. A dude who looks over 50, has no business riding with little kids.
i agree with both paragraphs you said. If the e-bike dude would have given his id, there would most likely be no issue. And the group riding dude put his hand out for a right turn too early
@@FearUniverse Tell us you're a mor-on without saying you're a mor-on...
2:20 ... that was a good laugh hah.
0:19 So if this is in the US, surely that's the cruising lane? and the right hand one is for overtaking? Soooo, the rider tried to undertake and is surprised that happened?
I think in the US it is legal to overtake on either side, so he was not undertaking!
@@sjaisie Still doesn't make it a good idea, especially at 20-30mph faster than traffic
@@au1317 agreed, but technically doing nothing wrong except putting his own life in danger 😳
@@sjaisie Really? I find that hard to believe. I mean, I know the US has some stupid laws but...
@@sjaisie The US does not dictate traffic lanes, the individual States do.... so you will find it varies...
While there may not be a specific fine for the action, if you cause an accident passing on the right you are 100% in the wrong in most places in North America...
The general rule is keep right except to pass, and pass to the left... but if you policed this on the big freeways you'd quickly go insane :P
2:04 fav
To be considered an e-bike in Oregon it has to have pedals and not be able to do over 20mph...
1:22 I know it doesn’t sound as if I was stopping because of the beeping but before I beeped and I saw him turn you can hear my back tire start skiing as I locked the wheel to stop. Right before the horn goes off. Then after, you can hear my engine starting off again. It was just super close.
Tbh the officer seemed chill at the start. Sometimes if your polite and respectful it will just end as a chat. It got me out of a fine and points on my license 😅
Exactly, all he wanted was his ID
@@bikeislife8405 Just surrender your 4th amendment rights and stroke my ego, and I won't give you unlawful tickets. Easy.
@@ChaosTheory666 I'm willing to bet if he gave him his ID they would have let him go immediately, if you have nothing to hide handing over your ID is an easy way to let the officer keep his cool and feel important, gotta play the game to avoid conflict.
@@bikeislife8405 why make their lives easier? They're scum.
Never answer questions during a traffic stop.
Cop needs a audit
Be nice to see audit the audit or lackluster do a quickie on that one. Retaliation at its finest.
@@leftlanelanny4707 I think we can do one better than that. If hes got kids and a wife. hes probably already fucked...... We all assume he writes tickets because his brainwashing is real. With your head so far up your ass. He tastes the shit but doesnt realize he is the reason shit is the way it is. Even his partner was still not comprehending what he did wrong.
Crazy fzing auditor I miss him
Nope, he was cool, and the guy on the bike was a douche.
No pedals, not an e-bike but a moped or scooter and must be registered.
Sur Rons are not street legal in most states, unless registered.
@@BB-1990 You are right lets give up our guns while were out riding e bikes ladies and gentlemen. Gonna go even more in-depth on the hypothetical. Imagine me a cop and you driving a handy caped electrically assisted w/e to the store for means of life.... and i decide today you look like a nice easy piece of meat to fuck with.....BAM dont become handicapped or worse fat you might get a ticket.
The Sur Ron ebike is a legal gray area.
It's classified as a regular ebike, unmodified. As it doesn't achieve speeds higher than 35 mph stock.
Because it's electric, it's basically a big scooter, but also like motorbike by appearance. It both is and isn't street legal. Which is stressful if you don't have a pedal kit installed on it. I feel bad for the dude 8 at 6:36. PEVs (personal electric vehicles) are still very niche and likely won't get more legal mandates until they're a *LOT* more common in places especially unknown for having rental EVs on street corners.
Cop retaliation about the E-bike!!! Was nice at first until the guy said no ID. If you haven't committed a crime you don't have to ID. Cops need to start reading the memo's and laws!!!
Bro are you stupid? If a cop asks you for ID, you're gonna have to ID.
You to go ahead and read the law, you have to show id if you're being detained in the state of Wisconsin, he is detained as the police officer conducted a traffic stop on him. What do you really think the officer is going to do with your id? Just show it and the officer probably would've been like alright just take it home and don't come back out
@@SwaggawagonNSDQ Damn, you fit the whole boot in your mouth.
@@SwaggawagonNSDQ the officer has to have a reasonable articulable suspicion that he is committing a crime, has committed a crime, or is about to commit a crime in order to legally detain him. The officer didn't know if he was committing a crime or not therefore I'm not sure this stop was legal at all.
@@joshuagriffin3184 well sure he has that, he sees what looks like a motorcycle without a license plate, he pulls him over, he's not going to just take the word on the person he's pulled over that what he's doing is legal
Cops were wrong about the e bike surprise!
New rider here, have a 650cc suzuki bandit but not sure if it should be the first bike as my daily rider.. I've taken it for drives and I can handle it well but the power scares me at times. Im a smaller guy at 5'6 180 pounds, Would it be a smarter idea to downsize instead of continuing on the 650cc bandit? Looking for honest opinions, love the bike it's my dream but would rather stay alive to ride again so my brain is stuck trying to decide what's best 😕 any insight with my issue would be much appreciated and I'm open to every view. Hope everyone stays safe 🙏 steer clear of the crazies
You don't have to use all of the power if you know how to handle it.
It’s good bike just control your throttle. Ease up a mph at a a time.
If the bike scares you, it’s not for you. Now, you could grow into it, but it sounds like you should have started smaller. Did you take a rider’s course?
@@andrewsmith9174 That would be best, a course, but a more gentle accelerator use does it.
As with most things, start small and work your way up. BUT, that being said, I've seen a grown man let a clutch-less Honda 70 get away from him because he lacked experience.
That surron stop could easily become a case for officer retaliation $$$
Not a snowball chance in hell! It's a traffic stop, and he gave him a hard time, technically speaking he could've been cited and arrested for failure to identify himself during a traffic stop. The officer telling him you're giving me a hard time so now I'm going to right you as many tickets as I can, will have no bearing in court, as that is completely legal and well in the officers right to do so.
@@d-real-moop7824 Dude, don't even bother with these sheep. Their ignorant comment is enough to know that no amount of facts will educate them.
@@d-real-moop7824 if you say so sport 😂
@@MeZpatriot5O I’m a sheep because I’m on a 👮♂️’s 🍆 you both sound super hurt over a valid comment😂
@@Pyrex_lex i do say so bud!
2:10 was kind of the bikers fault
Awesome video like always
I love how suddenly every one of you is an E-Bike lawyer...
Sounds like retaliation
I’d love to know you better that’s if you don’t mind
Here in FL an Ebike doesnt require you to even have a license, registration or insurance. Not sure what your state requires but here you need nothing.
Can I get a job as a cop? I'm kinda stupid, and an asshole, but I'm not fat on the other hand I can grow an awesome mustache 😎 😄
Do you beat your spouse with 40% higher likely hood than your neighbor…because if so, then you’d be a fine police officer 👍…oh almost forgot, you need to be scared of everyone and believe your job is extremely dangerous even though it doesn’t even rank in the top 10 most hazardous professions in the US
seriously you don't have to tell anyone your stupid and an asshole......It's obvious
@@localenterprisebroadcastin5971 🤣🤣🤣🤣✌️✌️
If you like fishing for a reason to ticket the people you swore an oath to protect and do it in a very douchey manor, you and the cop at 8:45 would get along great
@@G19Jeeper If you like fishing to show the cop you're a bad ass and do it in a douchey way then don't bitch when you get a ticket.....Do you even realize how many fucktards roam the earth and the cops get the great job of dealing with them.....I'm willing to bet your kind of douchey
Damn first time seeing from Latvia my contry
“Why are you going so fucking quick you twat.” *proceeds to downshift three times*
Walk up to a cop and ask where they live. See how your day goes.
Why would you do that? Are you trying to citizens arrest the cop? Is the cop riding an e-bike on the road? 😂
"Youre on a traffic stop."
"But this isnt a vehicle."
Damn, smart guy.
The last guy didnt realise that their bike is classed as an electric motorcycle, not an electronic bicycle, don't know how they didnt know or realise because there are no foot pedals. Also even if you are on a bicycle that doesnt change the fact that it was a traffic stop and thus when asked the rider should have given identification. Im from australia and it seem as if i know more about american traffic law than this rider.
In my state pedals or not if it can’t top 30 it’s an electric bicycle and can not be registered and there’s a good chance that’s how it is where he lives.
Doesn't change the fact it is a traffic stop and that bike looks and appears to be an electronic dirt motorcycle.
Except that it's legally a bicycle, not a motorcycle.
And you have no clue wtf you're talking about...
Cop...."What I believe it is??? ..." Sounds like he was the judge ???
Have to love the great city of Baraboo Wisconsin.
In ireland the surron is now classified as an electric motorcycle,
And electric powered bikes or stand up scooters that can go over 25kph must be taxed insured and you must have an AM classified licence for its use
Punishing someone for 'making their life hard' is not how policing should work. Why would having his ID help them decide if the bike was legal to be on the road or not?
the cop ego was bruised, therefore he has to make up for it. that cop should be fired for being a narcissistic man child.
Not an expert, but I think that checking his id will tell them if he’s the owner of the vehicle, if it’s registered, if it’s insured or any of a number of other things
let me guess.......you're a queef on a sport bike..If I were you I would start wearing helmet what little brains you have are in jeopardy
It was a traffic stop the officer was performing thus means when asked to give your ID you do it, it's that simple. The cop was cool up until the dude refused to give up his ID. He's on the road just like anyone else else including bicyclists have to obey the laws.
The rider already stated it was not registered as it was classified as a bicycle. The officer did not know if he was committing a traffic infraction so if they are not in a stop and i.d. state then the rider would not have to provide identification as he was not or not about to commit a crime. What he should have done was look at the traffic code with the rider and find out. They would both learn something and no identification would be required to do that
No crime in Baraboo I guess.Heros.
Those E-Bikes really get close to the line of electric motorcycle sometimes. That e-bike looks a lot like an actual motorcycle. The cop can definitely ask for an ID and see if the rider has a registered motorcycle and tell if the bike is a bicycle or an electric motorcycle. I'm sure if someone wanted to hide their vehicle specifications, they would lie. Could have avoided all this by just IDing.
They can ask but unless you’ve committed a crime, they can’t obligate you to show ID which is what that cop was doing. The laws would define what an e bike is which is what the cop should have looked into first. If determined it is a vehicle requiring registration THEN you would be obligated to ID. No one can be expected to know everything but if you don’t know then you should find out before being a dick like this cop.
Classic example of 'Contempt of Cop'. That guy needs to ride a desk until he learns to de-escalate and that failure to ID is a secondary crime, not a reason to violate someone's 4th amendment rights.
I mean the cop clearly states he has no idea what this is, but then he is sure it's in violation. Innocent until proven guilty? Not in Wisconsin apparently...
@@KaptinPlanit EXACTLY
"Just comply"... I bet you're gonna be first in line to hand over your rifle when mommy government bans them.
@@TheCowby I think that's a big difference from simply showing ID. He's not telling him to turn his pockets out and strip naked
I wish mwsccbrat got sideswiped that day :3.
“Do you have ID?”
“Sure, here.”
“Thanks.”
“No problem.”
That’s literally as easy as it is.
Why this is a problem for seemingly SO many people is honestly beyond me 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Seriously though that cop seemed cool. He should've just complied. 100% if he produced the documents the cop wanted he would've been fine. I'm sure the cop would let it slide
The issue is that if he was on a bicycle then he doesn't need to present ID. It's seen as the same as walking down the street. You only have to provide a driver's license if you are driving a motor vehicle which he wasn't.
@@82zkartracer Sure. But if I happen to look really similar to a wanted felon and a police officer stops me as I’m walking to work, would I rather give him my genuine ID politely - because there’s no issue with me, I’ve done nothing wrong, making his job quick and easy and clearing up the matter without any hassle before continuing on my way - OR do I refuse on the grounds that “I don’t have to” like a petulant 13 year old, now reenforcing to the police officer that I may have done something wrong, or that I may not want him to know my name for whatever reason. Or maybe I’m just being a dick to him.
You don’t know what’s going on in his head, or at the station. But acting immediately snarky and defensive as opposed to polite and agreeable won’t get you anywhere.
MOTORVEHICLE: a road vehicle powered by an internal combustion engine.
cops be like "we aren't all bad" and then have power trips like this and expect the public to support them fully without question.
Bunch of out of control pirates. Ftp
Yup pure trash never trust them or comply
It's a motor vehicle, if it would have gas instead of electricity you would call it a motor vehicle also. Its big, doesn't have head lights, no mirrors no plate and it's driving on a road, if it would be an e-bike it would have pedals... A motor is a motor and a bike is a bike...
The mouthy guy on the the E-bike at the end sounds like he could’ve saved himself a lot of trouble if he’d just given his ID to the cop when he first asked. Wether who was right etc. I don’t blame the cop for giving him a traffic ticket. Give up your damn I.D/ License whenever a law enforcement officer asks! Common sense.
oh if he'd just obeyed, like a good little serf... Pigs can do what ever they want, they don't need to abide by the laws... pigs are our masters just obey... SHFU mor-on bootlicker. people like you are why pigs are so use to violating peoples rights.
On then single track roads in the uk you only have to be doing 30mph an thats enough to get caught out when i was 14 i was out on my pitbike doing roughly 30 35mph and a asda delivery van took me out coming the other way i broke my right pinky and hurt my shoulder but i was alright the bike ride-able i told the driver to just leave it and say you hit a pigeon ect she was so scared cuz i was a kid lmao but just one of them things dont hurt to just cruise once in a while but still
yeh I was going a bit too quick when heading in to that corner at 35mph, I'm lucky that there wasn't anything worse around that corner. This is definetly a lesson I luckily didn't have to learn the hard way.
They aren’t putting that e-bike ticket in the system. They do that 9/10 times since they know they are in the wrong after their little power trip. That way they feel tough and face no repercussions in court.
its a motorized vehicle which needs to me registered learn the law
@@scuffedclips1 Its a grey area in most places so in most cases its "technically" not a motor vehicle that needs to be registered. If that guy actually gets that ticket put into the system, he can have a field day in court.
@@gloplin8493 no he cant. its a motor vehicle on the road not registered no mirrors no blinkers its a road hazard
@@scuffedclips1 how about you learn the law before you come into the comments thinking you know everything. There are no federal mandates on riding e-bikes on the road. It’s up to the individual states to decide, to which most say e-bikes are classified as regular bikes. Other states only allow them to drive on roads with a speed limit of 25mph or less. If he looked up the state law and is correct, he can go to court and get it dismissed since these officers stated they’ve never seen them and don’t know but are giving tickets. Get a life keyboard warrior.
It's a motor vehicle, if it would have gas instead of electricity you would call it a motor vehicle also. Its big, doesn't have head lights, no mirrors no plate and it's driving on a road, if it would be an e-bike it would have pedals...
1:45 wasn’t this clip shown in another episode?
Sad how many bikers are saying it’s an E-Bike! It doesn’t have pedals, it has a motor, petrol or electric, he should have a license and insurance.
Sad how so many people are ret-ards and just spew out bull sh-it they know nothing about...
Lmao, are you kidding me. An E-Bike doesn't have to be registered to be on the road. I own two of those types of bikes. One has pedals and one is like his (in the last video.) So where do those cops find that they can legally pull him over and issue a citation or ticket? Complete bullshit
i have pedals on mine to avoid this exact type of police interaction. as soon as they get ready to pull me over I start pedaling and off they go.
@@freeflymonkey I honestly don't know why they bother us about our bikes. Yes, they're different and only a few years old. But it's not like we're riding an unregistered motorcycle.
@@TheHanson anything to make a quick buck for the city. you gotta be pretty low iq to be bothering ppl on e-bikes, not hurting anyone and out enjoying nature.
That E-Bicycle is not a bicycle, it has no peddles to assist in forward movement. It is a motorized bike powered by an electric battery in place of gas. It has to be rated by speed it can do. That storm is coming.
Should’ve just given cop his id, it would’ve made everything much smoother
This is some disgusting logic
@@quinten200 disgusting? why
i was pulled over that night not a long time ago, showed my id, the cop checked and i was free to go after 2 minutes. ez pz
people these days snowflake over almost everything, that what makes everything complicated.
You spineless jelly cowards who just agree and don’t say no are the problem with society, weak pathetic boys this is how you lose your rights and freedom. Wise up.
I see a lawsuit coming: retaliatian of an officer, he said it out loud.