it's amazing flash is back and playing again but i think it's just as nice that we have you still active and sharing all of this with everyone, thanks for doing these man, they're a highlight of my mornings
Arty. Thank you. You are so good at explaining the terrain side of the matchup. I watched flash games on another channel and their play by play was fine but they do not have the depth of knowledge or ability to explain it like you do. You should always cast terran games. You know so much about this matchup. Cheers
It seems like he wants to figure out for himself to find a better way to play in the current meta instead of just copying the meta Terran builds. And that is something to be respected.
@@TheSuperappelflap it looks to me that he really likes to have the upgrade adventage. and he is trying to push the limits of that build to make it work.
I didn't really understand how early academy can be greedy, though. Normally, a "greedy" play tries to get a lot of resources (extra workers or bases) or sometimes high tech early at the expense of army size or base defense. To me, a greedy play can be punished with some sort of early attack or harass, while an overly cautious play can only be punished by expanding. But early academy is sort of the opposite: getting early base defense at the expense of early resources. You can punish a _late_ academy with DTs, but you can't really punish an early academy, except by getting incrementally more resources.
Thanks for your casts, my understanding of the game improved a lot over the last months. SC1 was the first game that I bought (was eight years old) and though I haven't played it myself for a long time, I now enjoy watching casts now more than ever. PS: again, the eight carrier win condition hits.
Let's gooooooo, nah but seriously these games are awesome. I love how you can really see Flash's thought process throughout the games, almost every action he takes has a rationale behind it. Really informative games.
as opposed to all the other top level pros who spin a wheel of fortune to decide their every move, with zero rationale whatsoever. only flash is capable of planning things. what a god.
Great point about the unique opportunity of watching Flash re-adjust to the game. Will be excited once things balance out again and we watch other players (I loved the Flash interregnum for that reason!), but still such a treat to deep dive on one player. Hope you feel better soon!
Artosis, I sincerely hope you are going to keep these flash games continually running. I'm way too invested and way too far into the rabbit hole to stop any time soon. Kind regards from an old xds fan
i really like the way flash is playing that second game, i think he is going to figure it out sooner rather than later i personally think that something terran players should start doing is to move a group of vultures ahead of the army and start picking off zealots
I’ve noticed a principle in broodwar that the weaker race cannot allow the stronger race snowball out of control in macro otherwise they just lose. Zerg wins in ZvP if Protoss leaves Zerg unchecked. Zerg greed goes further than Protoss greed. Same here with Protoss vs Terran. Protoss greed will always go further than Terran greed and Protoss can trade even with Terran and as long as they trade army for siege tanks or high quality units Protoss will rebuild army easier and faster. Same with Zerg if Protoss loses their high quality units and trades even with Zerg, Zerg is ahead.
You're backwards. Protoss win in all matches if literally any race lets them go unchecked. Also your statement is kind of a tautology because this is true in literally any situation. And not just on Starcraft. Imagine playing Undead and just letting your Human or Night Elf opponents play completely unmolested.
@@ollaitsrealgood Well, Undead if left unchecked and free to expand is the strongest race in wc3. Human and Night Elf need a second base to really get going. Orc can only snowball if their heroes get high level. But Undead has good units, although expensive, and amazing heroes. With a strong economy they snowball the hardest. The only thing they dont have is strong midgame units, past where crypt fiends are effective, and super late game air. Frost Wyrms just cost too much supply vs stuff like the Human hawks that can disable enemies and web from the Orc.
So I’ve been critical of Flash since he’s come back…. but I kinda think he’s playing possum. He’s playing bad on purpose, just to test shit out. However…. I used to be much better than I am now and as I get older I suck more. So is this really Flash sucking or is this Flash doing mind games? I find it hard to believe that Flash “devolved” to not being able to target with his tanks. He’s intentionally dying in my opinion…, Or he’s using strats he knows are bad but he’s just working it out.
The big question in my mind, is why not to go simultaneously to ghosts with locks and Goliaths? You already cut his mining base, just kill what’s coming in carriers, and you still can win. But it seems he had no interest in fighting and ggs…. (Sound of scratching my head)
Please keep the flash train comming! Lovely videos as always Artosis and wish you the best with your sore throat! :) Could you maybe up the video resolution though if not too much trouble? HD looks a little blurry. :S (youtube has low bitrate even with premium, 2K res maybe? 🤞)
You know, those supply depots just remind me of like, the early days with BoxeR like, blocking off ramps that wern't his or locking units into his base and stuff. That's the kinda meme shit that got me in in the first place.
Actually, this has already happened. Lu Xiaojun, one of the best weightlifters of all time basically started from scratch after not training at all for the longest time and video'd the whole thing. He got caught by a doping test before the championships tho
Hey artosis, I noticed that you do analysis of games at the start of the next game. Is it possible you do the analysis at the end of a game, thus the start of the next you can explain openers/reactions?
Artosis… Why wasn’t Flash targeting carriers directly, instead of fighting interceptors? Also… Would it have been a tough transition to add ghosts + lockdown? Lock half of fleet, get EMP off, and direct target carriers with goliaths? Forgive my ignorance, I’m just a spectator and haven’t played BW in 15 years. Please keep up the Flash casts! Thank you.
Flash keeping making those adjustments. 1st game it looks like it just needed a better fortress, either with more vultures or mines or some buildings (supply depots for ex).
bisu de3finitely plays less greedy than some of the other protoss but it just felt like he had control of the whole game, even when attacking poorly trading 50 supplies for 10
I think Flash doesnt use mines at main base, because perfect protoss with a shuttle takes 0 damage from mines. To reword it mines are gamechanging against lesser players, but unreliable vs Snow or other top ones.
My issue is dealing with carriers. Seems ever toss goes carriers. I can be smashing them and carriers always happens. How does terren players deal with this? Just mass glitches? A group of clocked wraths?
Hey Artosis, Thank you for keeping me entertained and giving me a moment of relaxation as I'm currently trying to build a political party on "the Map" called Sweden. We are a terrain race, with the spirit of Apes and hope to build a horde and go on the offensive like the Zerg. Thanks again, I hope our Party (The Global Party) might be of some service in the future to you and your subscribes. Just know you are to great help at least for me, if not other members of the party to. Kind regards, Your friend ("Kamrat" in swedish) Karl Mitra Samarasinghe The Global Party
Ah my daily window into the Broodwar people by the anthropologist himself. What will Flash have learned? How will Bisu react? How does it differ to what these people thought the optimal strategy was one year ago? How will it be in a year?
Do you think Bisu sending those 4 Templar to die into that group of vultures was intentional to mislead Flash? Makes Flash think Bisu supply is tied up on making new Templar etc instead of recognizing the carrier push ealeier
20 day flash streak
You're so right, it's far too little.
Love it
are you a terran player?
Keep it coming my man
Just a flash in the pan
it's amazing flash is back and playing again but i think it's just as nice that we have you still active and sharing all of this with everyone, thanks for doing these man, they're a highlight of my mornings
for real. the brood war English scene is lucky to have someone as knowledgeable and passionate about the game as artosis is.
I love the fact that someone, unsuspecting, will hit artosis stream after getting hooked with all these flash games.
And then, their life will never be the same!
rip to that person's ears
CIMA
You sound gay af
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥
Love it when artosis flashes us
Artosis I start my morning with your Cast. These Flash games have been awesome, keep-up the good work!
I don't know about you guys, but I am getting chills right now 😂😂😂
NERD CHILLS TASTELESS
Arty. Thank you. You are so good at explaining the terrain side of the matchup. I watched flash games on another channel and their play by play was fine but they do not have the depth of knowledge or ability to explain it like you do.
You should always cast terran games. You know so much about this matchup. Cheers
Good discussion on the cutting edge of greed. Obviously Flash knows what the current meta is, he's banking on surviving the first big push.
It seems like he wants to figure out for himself to find a better way to play in the current meta instead of just copying the meta Terran builds. And that is something to be respected.
@@TheSuperappelflap it looks to me that he really likes to have the upgrade adventage. and he is trying to push the limits of that build to make it work.
I didn't really understand how early academy can be greedy, though. Normally, a "greedy" play tries to get a lot of resources (extra workers or bases) or sometimes high tech early at the expense of army size or base defense. To me, a greedy play can be punished with some sort of early attack or harass, while an overly cautious play can only be punished by expanding. But early academy is sort of the opposite: getting early base defense at the expense of early resources. You can punish a _late_ academy with DTs, but you can't really punish an early academy, except by getting incrementally more resources.
@@EebstertheGreat
I think an academy is greedier than ebay + turrets? Did he mean that?
Thanks for your casts, my understanding of the game improved a lot over the last months. SC1 was the first game that I bought (was eight years old) and though I haven't played it myself for a long time, I now enjoy watching casts now more than ever.
PS: again, the eight carrier win condition hits.
Beep beep, additional Flash videos required
You had me at "Bisu" and if you cast 7 Bisu vs Flash I will literally lose my shit! ❤
I miss the Flash-Bisu stream, where Flash just sit behind Bisu and making joke unintentionally
"Now I learned: Hydra - good unit".
Yoooooo 7 more games aren’t enough! Keep um coming!😊
You cast beautifully, like sun tzu
"Welcome back to Flashback Casts, where we cast Flash back to back."
Artosis, your consistency and diligence give me chills. Appreciate it!!
Thanks for casting, Arty
7 games, Basil! *Squeegees glasses
Welcome back to Flashosis
Let's gooooooo, nah but seriously these games are awesome. I love how you can really see Flash's thought process throughout the games, almost every action he takes has a rationale behind it. Really informative games.
as opposed to all the other top level pros who spin a wheel of fortune to decide their every move, with zero rationale whatsoever. only flash is capable of planning things. what a god.
Great point about the unique opportunity of watching Flash re-adjust to the game. Will be excited once things balance out again and we watch other players (I loved the Flash interregnum for that reason!), but still such a treat to deep dive on one player.
Hope you feel better soon!
I've been devouring all of these pro ladder casts. Thanks for putting in all the work to bring us these great games! Looking forward to the next ones!
ArtosisCastsFlash, best channel ever!
Keep em coming boyo!
As always, thank you, Artosis! I hope your voice gets better soon!
I like when you run game series. It's interesting to see the development between two players
Too many chills a day bring a raspy voice the next day!
Artosis, I sincerely hope you are going to keep these flash games continually running. I'm way too invested and way too far into the rabbit hole to stop any time soon. Kind regards from an old xds fan
I remember Flash VS Movie in the OSL Finale where Flash buildes wall after wall of supply depos.
Babe wake up, @ArtosisCasts is posting a Flash vs Bisu series!
Welcome back to flashcasts
It's interesting to me seeing how much of a proponent he is for Goliaths
I really like Artosis showing us the only two races in Starcraft.
Yes!!!!! I love series!
Another day, another Flash game(s). And I'm all for it!
idk if that map explanation was for me, but thank you
i really like the way flash is playing that second game, i think he is going to figure it out sooner rather than later
i personally think that something terran players should start doing is to move a group of vultures ahead of the army and start picking off zealots
MORE FLASH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DONT EVER STOP
I’ve noticed a principle in broodwar that the weaker race cannot allow the stronger race snowball out of control in macro otherwise they just lose. Zerg wins in ZvP if Protoss leaves Zerg unchecked. Zerg greed goes further than Protoss greed. Same here with Protoss vs Terran. Protoss greed will always go further than Terran greed and Protoss can trade even with Terran and as long as they trade army for siege tanks or high quality units Protoss will rebuild army easier and faster. Same with Zerg if Protoss loses their high quality units and trades even with Zerg, Zerg is ahead.
You're backwards. Protoss win in all matches if literally any race lets them go unchecked. Also your statement is kind of a tautology because this is true in literally any situation. And not just on Starcraft. Imagine playing Undead and just letting your Human or Night Elf opponents play completely unmolested.
@@ollaitsrealgood Well, Undead if left unchecked and free to expand is the strongest race in wc3. Human and Night Elf need a second base to really get going. Orc can only snowball if their heroes get high level. But Undead has good units, although expensive, and amazing heroes. With a strong economy they snowball the hardest. The only thing they dont have is strong midgame units, past where crypt fiends are effective, and super late game air. Frost Wyrms just cost too much supply vs stuff like the Human hawks that can disable enemies and web from the Orc.
wow what a high quality game 2!
Yes! Let’s go!
Keep em coming. I'm having more fun watching the progression of flash than watching any sc2 content.
So I’ve been critical of Flash since he’s come back…. but I kinda think he’s playing possum. He’s playing bad on purpose, just to test shit out.
However…. I used to be much better than I am now and as I get older I suck more. So is this really Flash sucking or is this Flash doing mind games?
I find it hard to believe that Flash “devolved” to not being able to target with his tanks. He’s intentionally dying in my opinion…, Or he’s using strats he knows are bad but he’s just working it out.
OMG, bring me a blanket!!! I am getting CHILLS right now!!
The big question in my mind, is why not to go simultaneously to ghosts with locks and Goliaths? You already cut his mining base, just kill what’s coming in carriers, and you still can win. But it seems he had no interest in fighting and ggs…. (Sound of scratching my head)
A new 7 game series and it's Flash v Bisu? This is good news.
Please keep the flash train comming! Lovely videos as always Artosis and wish you the best with your sore throat! :) Could you maybe up the video resolution though if not too much trouble? HD looks a little blurry. :S (youtube has low bitrate even with premium, 2K res maybe? 🤞)
ladder game looking like a grand finals wow
low game sound
Get well soon bro
Arotosis showing us that you might be God, you still can't beat gateway man, invisible man, a-move big ship. LOL
I'm a Protoss player and I dont know how I'll live without daily Artosis Flash. THANKS SO MUCH for this content Arty.
damn GGz
You know, those supply depots just remind me of like, the early days with BoxeR like, blocking off ramps that wern't his or locking units into his base and stuff. That's the kinda meme shit that got me in in the first place.
Flash just practicing different strategies and prepare for ASL to own everyone.
Actually, this has already happened. Lu Xiaojun, one of the best weightlifters of all time basically started from scratch after not training at all for the longest time and video'd the whole thing. He got caught by a doping test before the championships tho
Let's Flashing gooooooo
Hey artosis, I noticed that you do analysis of games at the start of the next game. Is it possible you do the analysis at the end of a game, thus the start of the next you can explain openers/reactions?
Artosis… Why wasn’t Flash targeting carriers directly, instead of fighting interceptors? Also… Would it have been a tough transition to add ghosts + lockdown? Lock half of fleet, get EMP off, and direct target carriers with goliaths?
Forgive my ignorance, I’m just a spectator and haven’t played BW in 15 years. Please keep up the Flash casts! Thank you.
I wonder if Arty with a meta build could win against Flash trying to find himself
You’ve mentioned upgrade Terran and macro Terran a few times in your casts and I was wondering if there are other styles/builds.
carriers are absolutely nuts.
Flash casts Saturday!
Carrier for the win!
am i correct in saying that the lesson here is to be active with scouting vultures during an active, known carrier switch, to hunt for ht's?
Game 2 was awesome
Please more flash!
Artosis your not allowed to get sick. Sorry, so your gonna have to let that cold know, that your off limits.
Do Protoss build pylon walls like at 17:30 very often? Is that to help defend against Vulture harass? Do they build it in PvP or PvZ, as well?
Another Flash game - who'd have thought?! 😅
Second game that's ridiculous man, how does Bisu win
Flash keeping making those adjustments. 1st game it looks like it just needed a better fortress, either with more vultures or mines or some buildings (supply depots for ex).
bisu de3finitely plays less greedy than some of the other protoss but it just felt like he had control of the whole game, even when attacking poorly trading 50 supplies for 10
For the 1st game did Flash mean to delay vulture mines and speed by so much? He never started speed and died before mines finished.
God damn this channel has been a goldmine recently
Flash ftw ty arty, crank out the commentary baby ❤❤
I think Flash doesnt use mines at main base, because perfect protoss with a shuttle takes 0 damage from mines.
To reword it mines are gamechanging against lesser players, but unreliable vs Snow or other top ones.
Use a cough button mate. Radio stations invented them decades ago.
My issue is dealing with carriers. Seems ever toss goes carriers. I can be smashing them and carriers always happens. How does terren players deal with this? Just mass glitches? A group of clocked wraths?
Flash is having a lot of trouble with the modern protoss. Motive destroyed him.
Hey Artosis, Thank you for keeping me entertained and giving me a moment of relaxation as I'm currently trying to build a political party on "the Map" called Sweden. We are a terrain race, with the spirit of Apes and hope to build a horde and go on the offensive like the Zerg.
Thanks again, I hope our Party (The Global Party) might be of some service in the future to you and your subscribes. Just know you are to great help at least for me, if not other members of the party to.
Kind regards,
Your friend ("Kamrat" in swedish)
Karl Mitra Samarasinghe
The Global Party
Are wraiths and valkyries not any good against carriers? Particularly valkyries, use the splash to kill all the interceptors.
I wonder how playing in the Evo mod would affect high level playb
When are we going to get the game where Flash scammed his opponent with NFTs?
Mid spoiler but the late game strategy employed by the winner in the second game never seems to fail from what I’ve seen, even when behind
4 HT for 2 vultures is a meme worthy trade. Pretty exciting second game, until the winner got the imba unit out.
You should drop 2 SC casts a day
The Девалт games are textbook material, seriously.
Making carriers is a good skill toi have
Dumb question: Last time I played SC1 every Terran blocked and lifted off the barracks later. Why isnt this a thing at high level in sc1?
GG
Ah my daily window into the Broodwar people by the anthropologist himself. What will Flash have learned? How will Bisu react? How does it differ to what these people thought the optimal strategy was one year ago? How will it be in a year?
ggs
7 Games vs Bisu? I'm a spoiled kid 🤤
37:25 What would that matter? They're a hovering unit; mines shouldn't be triggered.
no they are not hovering
Since when?
Hi, what maps is this, i want to download it. Thanks
Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooo
I just hope his new macro won't make him more predictable than he was.
Do you think Bisu sending those 4 Templar to die into that group of vultures was intentional to mislead Flash? Makes Flash think Bisu supply is tied up on making new Templar etc instead of recognizing the carrier push ealeier
hey Arty. I think you need to make a live stream casting one of these days.
24 hours, marathon, only Flash, all day, non stop, just Flash, pure BW