The factory immobiliser normally kills the feed to the fuel pump. Electronic pumps usually prime very quickly but when you refitted the ECU and the car wouldn't start, it was probably just pulling fuel through and would have started with a couple more attempts. Running on carb cleaner allowed the fuel to reach the engine then it picked up on its own. Also the same if the inertia cut-off trips. Glad it's back 👍
He should of just turned the ignition couple times and wait for fuel pump to turn off which you can hear while you turn ignition on i had to take out the fuel pump couple times and i just turned ignition couple times and it turned on without a problem every time
Not starting when you have cautiously put it all together and starting the next day. the Alfa is showing some true Italian character! Maybe you should make wide gestures and shout "Il macchina non va!" next time 😂
I agree about the lack of a dipstick. Had a 'too much oil' type warning on my car after a service. Took it back to the garage. It was fine. A known software issue, resolved by removing a litre and adding it again. Just give us back our flipping dipsticks!
I did something very similar for a friend some years ago, where the immobiliser failed in a Honda Prelude - the replacement was a PIC-based solution bought from eBay. I took my desoldering station with me and in under an hour we had a running Prelude.
Great work. Boy I was glad to see that Alfa start. I have for a while now been feeling a bit superior having an R56 MINI but I am now convinced that your R50 is the Genesis and not an inferior MINI. The Chrysler Engine is unique now. Ours has the Prince 1.6 122 bhp Peugeot unit which Mr Lloyd refuses to talk about. Happy motoring Boss enjoy.
Great video update on the cars, totally agree with you in the Mini and no dipstick, my mate has a cooper S with no dipstick. It's funny how you could not get the Alfa to start until you tried easy start, but suppose she is Italian and bring temperamental!
I have heard of an Australian equivalent which would have been perfect for the job but I won't mention the name in public. We all know what it's called.
So glad to see she runs again! I have a Bearlock ( mechanical transmission lock) on both my cars. No need for a immobiliser or other electronic alarms.
Glad you have it fixed, get a period correct talking alarm/immobiliser, I remember one I had on 90s cavalier, many moons ago, it felt amazing it had a row of buttons 😆
Glad the Alpha is sorted. Also, Yay! Another appearance of #202! Headliner problems are common on Y Regs- hence why I think the boyracer who previously owned my Y Reg made their own using cardboard, carpet and PVA. The clock project on my Mini has had the paint stripped off, but still need to paint it at some point this week, but weather is a bit *lacking* to say the least.
I think I can help diagnose the problem that was preventing the 145 from starting for no apparent reason. If you go to the front of the car, and look at the very front point of the bonnet, there’s a circular badge with some writing on it...
Glad to see the Alfa alive and kicking again! Oh that electronic oil in Minis and BMWs is an absolute pain in the arse, I encounter it a lot at work. That rust is a sad sight on the Merc too. Good update Matt!
The non- start could go back to the original problem with the bump, the car didn’t work before you sent away the electronics. Could be linked to the fuel cutoff switch tripping.
Good one Matt. The paint on the 123 bonnet is really bad, never seen anything like that before. It looks as though it is burnt! That old thing is going to take a bit to get road worthy again. Would love to see it saved and working again though. I think you have too many cars! but it's all good fun. Always look forward to your videos.
Glad to see the Alfa lives again and, yes, right decision made on not filming details of its new immobiliser. Lovely seeing the Mini again and I love how good it looks. I didn't realise that some modern cars didn't come with dipsticks. Seems like a very backward step
Would it be possible to build some kind of carport off the side of the garage ? offering a little more protection for the W123. Hard to see on video if there is room or not but just a thought 🙂
I think Matt did mention he was going to do that. Yes, that would be a good solution. I think he said that he had drawn up some plans for a carport. Would make a good video series too.
Nice breakfast video! 😀 I think the ecu just needed some time to settle in after reconnecting to the battery 😁 you need a little black cap on your driverside wiper arm BTW 👍 Did you already but new tires on the Volvo? 🤔 On the Mini, it could be a good video to compare the R50 with the modern one from the Furious Mrs to compare similarities and differences.
New ones of the front as they were shot but the rears were new-ish but very budget so waiting to wear them down a bit first! I was planning to borrow a 3 door as the Clubman is so different now
Use 0w30 oil for the mini. Can use 5w30 if you have that to hand but we sell 0w30 bottles at the BMW dealership I work at. Hope that helps. Love the videos and as an owner of an R56 mini loved the mini video
"Do ECUs have to settle like when you put fish into a tank?" LMAO. Thanks for that Matt, I could use cheering up then and that did the trick! And by the way, your Mini is so gorgeous; look at that paintwork, seems immaculate! Really looking forward to seeing more metal/paint work on the lovely Merc :-)
I think a Crook-lock or two might be handy, I used to immobilise a car by taking the rotor arm with me if parked in a dodgy area or anywhere in London, just in case they broke the lock off.
That must have been a relief, was thinking you needed an Eric O video ‘crank no start’, totally agree re dipsticks and so on, why! You just know as it ages that will end up being the demise of that car cause no one will bother😤
I bet that ecu had a lot of different fault codes after the fix. As it usually is after any modules has been repaired and bench tested. It just needed some power cycles to realise that there is no more fault in some critical area.
Hi, the yellow box is rarely the problem, but the little cable running from the ign barrel sensor. Pull the connector in/out of the yellow box a few times with some WD40 and it should be fine. Gets a bit corroded with time Same on my Fiat Coupe 20vt.
A bit of tinkering on a car I like and did (ZX, 406) but more modern cars I had (C5 now 1007) are a pain to work on imho. For the 1007 I couldn't get my hand to change bulb (high beam) impossible to get there. And yes, the old dip stick is how you measure oil, not a computer.
Great to see the Alfa lives again! Great little car. Re Mini with no dipstick words fail me, overcomplicated unnecessary technology for the sake of it! Modern cars eh? My 2013 Volvo V40 D3 also has no dipstick but thankfully doesn't need to be driven 30 miles to check the oil level.
Mind you, the second gen Mini's dipstick is quite useless at indicating the correct level, but electronic measurement seems unnecessary! Not to mention, that's likely another electronic sensor that adds to the build cost and will be prone to failure.
just drain all the oil, and refill with the right amount of the right type. Only way you're going to know its right. Agree that its ridiculous that so many modern cars don't have a dipstick. I'd be in a state of constant anxiety if my Alfas didn't have a dipstick.
We had an X-Type a few years ago that wouldn't start because of a tic tac sized transponder in the key playing up. In the end we just got an old style ford key cut and did away with the immobiliser nonsense
@@furiousdriving it has an integral anti-theft device constituted by the outer appearance of an Alfa 145. (I know how it works, I have been driving Citroëns for 30 years. No better policy than stern deterrence.)
I often wondered if car covers aren't good in the long run? Our Stag has been under a cover 3 years and i often think to myself can't be doing it much good
Are you keeping the automatic transmission in the Mercedes W123. Also Matt have you seen Anthony Gozzo Specialty Motor Cars channel, the stuff he gets is absolutely incredible. All those big beautiful American land yachts.
Mr d furious. So now that you have fixed the Alfa and removed the factory immobilizer from the car. How would this affect your cars insurance policy? Would it need to be declared?
Instead of a immobilizer look at a STOPLOCK professional, Thatcham approved, use one more so as it's a visual deterrent and have second thoughts before even trying anything
As for the modern Mini Cooper, blame BMW. When you sell Quentin, get rid of the Mercedes-Benz, I think it will take even more money 💷 than Quentin to make it road worthy because it is a Mercedes-Benz. Then you can concentrate on your Rover's. I do love the classic Mini, and nice going with the Alfa-Roméo.
The new mini " you have low oil,but you need to drive it to discover how low" is just stupid. As you say a dip stick and gravity served engines well for over 100 years,why reinvent the wheel? (Oh yeah, for dealer profits£££)
I see you've got the red key with the single button. You should be able to get the factory alarm and remote central locking working if you can find the right person to decode your receiver. The immobiliser is a completely separate system from the alarm and remote locking. My 916 Spider uses the same system and I sent off the receiver and boards from within the keys to a very helpful chap called GialloEvo on an Alfa 145 forum and he reset the receiver back to factory defaults and provided me with the codes from my remotes. I don't know if he still does it because I had it done 7 years ago. I went from having to unlock my Alfa physically with the key to a fully working remote central locking and alarm system with codes to program any additional remotes in the future. I've also got the workshop manual for the Alfa 145 alarm and remote locking system if you like. This thread was very helpful during my 'quest' for working factory remote locking. forum.alfa145.com/index.php?showtopic=21459
Sagging headliner is not just a problem with British made cars. It is a problem with just about all modern cars now as they get older and the foam behind the headliner breaks down and turns to dust and that is what the glue sticks the headliner to the backing board with so nothing left to stick to when it starts to turn to dust. The usual numpties who have to slag off British at every opportunity because they have listened to their mates or diddies from Top Gear etc. Funny how British and all other cars never had any problems with headliners when they used the previous vinyl and wire headliners that outlived the cars as long as the owners did not rip them etc.
This is why I hate modern cars: the sagging headliner of the pre-production car is a VERY minor annoyance compared to the oil check with the display and menu's in the new Mini. It's all software, and all software comes with faults that will only be fixed when the manufacturer takes the effort to fix it, you cannot repair or modify it yourself because the code is a trade secret and will never be disclosed, also you need to pay an expensive visit to the dealer to get the software updated. These cars are built with planned obsolescence, because when the display breaks it will render your car virtually useless. If a replacement is unavailable or more expensive than the car is worth, you can take your car to the scrapyard. The 2001 pre-production Mini R50 will most definitely live another 10 years, while the F54 will probably never reach 20 years.
Sagging headliner is a problem with most modern cars after they get older as the foam behind the headliner breaks down with age. Never was a problem with the old vinyl and wire headliners.
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The factory immobiliser normally kills the feed to the fuel pump. Electronic pumps usually prime very quickly but when you refitted the ECU and the car wouldn't start, it was probably just pulling fuel through and would have started with a couple more attempts.
Running on carb cleaner allowed the fuel to reach the engine then it picked up on its own.
Also the same if the inertia cut-off trips.
Glad it's back 👍
He should of just turned the ignition couple times and wait for fuel pump to turn off which you can hear while you turn ignition on i had to take out the fuel pump couple times and i just turned ignition couple times and it turned on without a problem every time
Not starting when you have cautiously put it all together and starting the next day. the Alfa is showing some true Italian character! Maybe you should make wide gestures and shout "Il macchina non va!" next time 😂
The Alfa was just having a strop as it was embarrassed by the speed bump. Lovely thing!
I agree about the lack of a dipstick. Had a 'too much oil' type warning on my car after a service. Took it back to the garage. It was fine. A known software issue, resolved by removing a litre and adding it again. Just give us back our flipping dipsticks!
Whoever thought of not having a dipstick on a car is, well, a massive dipstick!
I did something very similar for a friend some years ago, where the immobiliser failed in a Honda Prelude - the replacement was a PIC-based solution bought from eBay. I took my desoldering station with me and in under an hour we had a running Prelude.
Great work. Boy I was glad to see that Alfa start. I have for a while now been feeling a bit superior having an R56 MINI but I am now convinced that your R50 is the Genesis and not an inferior MINI. The Chrysler Engine is unique now. Ours has the Prince 1.6 122 bhp Peugeot unit which Mr Lloyd refuses to talk about.
Happy motoring Boss enjoy.
The Tritec wasnt the best engine ever, but I thanks to the chain cam is a better bet than the Prince long term
Nice to see that the Alfa is working again.
That 8mm spanner looks just like a socket and ratchet 😇
Yep and the bolts were nuts :)
spanner/wrench/nut/bolt, its all the same sort of...
Great video update on the cars, totally agree with you in the Mini and no dipstick, my mate has a cooper S with no dipstick. It's funny how you could not get the Alfa to start until you tried easy start, but suppose she is Italian and bring temperamental!
I have heard of an Australian equivalent which would have been perfect for the job but I won't mention the name in public. We all know what it's called.
So glad to see she runs again! I have a Bearlock ( mechanical transmission lock) on both my cars. No need for a immobiliser or other electronic alarms.
I use mechanical locks as well, cant be too careful!
Glad you have it fixed, get a period correct talking alarm/immobiliser, I remember one I had on 90s cavalier, many moons ago, it felt amazing it had a row of buttons 😆
Just like in Phoenix Nights...
@@furiousdriving lol yes something along those lines 😂
What a relief! seeing the alfa finally starting!!😥 keep up the tinkering!👍
Glad the Alpha is sorted. Also, Yay! Another appearance of #202! Headliner problems are common on Y Regs- hence why I think the boyracer who previously owned my Y Reg made their own using cardboard, carpet and PVA.
The clock project on my Mini has had the paint stripped off, but still need to paint it at some point this week, but weather is a bit *lacking* to say the least.
You should have kept the carpet, thats a strong look...
I think I can help diagnose the problem that was preventing the 145 from starting for no apparent reason. If you go to the front of the car, and look at the very front point of the bonnet, there’s a circular badge with some writing on it...
ouch
lol...funny
In general terms, a Volvo 145 is more reliable and less rusty than an Alfa 145
Ha ha! Wasn’t intended as a burn: I own a car of a similar vintage with said badge on the bonnet. All part of the Alfa ownership experience!
Glad to see the Alfa alive and kicking again! Oh that electronic oil in Minis and BMWs is an absolute pain in the arse, I encounter it a lot at work. That rust is a sad sight on the Merc too. Good update Matt!
I enjoyed my Alfa 156 t.spark in 2001/02. Was amazing for a company car. Metallic black with sand leather interior. Veloce trim.
The non- start could go back to the original problem with the bump, the car didn’t work before you sent away the electronics. Could be linked to the fuel cutoff switch tripping.
Brilliant content as always Matt!! Glad the Alfa is finally sorted!
I was so sad for you when you first tried to start the car Matt. Glad it got sorted, victory is yours
Good one Matt. The paint on the 123 bonnet is really bad, never seen anything like that before. It looks as though it is burnt! That old thing is going to take a bit to get road worthy again. Would love to see it saved and working again though.
I think you have too many cars! but it's all good fun. Always look forward to your videos.
Great stuff! Can’t get over how great the Mini looks!
Its held up so well and in design and condition!
Great to hear that Twin Spark growl back into life!
Glad it's running again. Good to know about that company that deals with ecu issues.
About to enjoy this with a cup of tea!
Love your red mini classic of the future
I hope you make a video on changing those Flexi hoses, I need to do mine on my Vitesse so would be a good guide.
Glad to see the Alfa lives again and, yes, right decision made on not filming details of its new immobiliser. Lovely seeing the Mini again and I love how good it looks.
I didn't realise that some modern cars didn't come with dipsticks. Seems like a very backward step
Would it be possible to build some kind of carport off the side of the garage ? offering a little more protection for the W123. Hard to see on video if there is room or not but just a thought 🙂
I think Matt did mention he was going to do that. Yes, that would be a good solution. I think he said that he had drawn up some plans for a carport. Would make a good video series too.
I feel your pain with the oil level measurement on the Mini. It really winds me up that there isn't a dipstick on my 2-series too!
Matt I dont know how you keep sane with all your cars.
Ive only got one and thats quite enough for me!
I agree about technology on cars, it actually detracts from the simple pleasure of just driving your car. 🙂
Hi Matt,that's great news about the Alfa 145,the bonnet on the Mercedes looks patchy but sorted soon, like the update on the cars.
Nice breakfast video! 😀 I think the ecu just needed some time to settle in after reconnecting to the battery 😁 you need a little black cap on your driverside wiper arm BTW 👍 Did you already but new tires on the Volvo? 🤔 On the Mini, it could be a good video to compare the R50 with the modern one from the Furious Mrs to compare similarities and differences.
New ones of the front as they were shot but the rears were new-ish but very budget so waiting to wear them down a bit first!
I was planning to borrow a 3 door as the Clubman is so different now
Use 0w30 oil for the mini. Can use 5w30 if you have that to hand but we sell 0w30 bottles at the BMW dealership I work at. Hope that helps. Love the videos and as an owner of an R56 mini loved the mini video
Thanks, the book shows a quite a few, I thought 5w30 would be OK for a small top up
@@furiousdriving yes should be fine with that
"Do ECUs have to settle like when you put fish into a tank?" LMAO. Thanks for that Matt, I could use cheering up then and that did the trick!
And by the way, your Mini is so gorgeous; look at that paintwork, seems immaculate!
Really looking forward to seeing more metal/paint work on the lovely Merc :-)
I covered a car during winter one time, never again, all the moist stayes underneath the cover and turbocharges the rust and oxidation.
Well done another one of the fleet revived thus keeping the Mrs Happy.
I think a Crook-lock or two might be handy, I used to immobilise a car by taking the rotor arm with me if parked in a dodgy area or anywhere in London, just in case they broke the lock off.
Happy days, Matt, a bit of good Alfa luck at last!
That must have been a relief, was thinking you needed an Eric O video ‘crank no start’, totally agree re dipsticks and so on, why! You just know as it ages that will end up being the demise of that car cause no one will bother😤
I bet that ecu had a lot of different fault codes after the fix. As it usually is after any modules has been repaired and bench tested. It just needed some power cycles to realise that there is no more fault in some critical area.
Your patience paid off very good content very enjoyable.😀👍👍
Hi, the yellow box is rarely the problem, but the little cable running from the ign barrel sensor. Pull the connector in/out of the yellow box a few times with some WD40 and it should be fine. Gets a bit corroded with time
Same on my Fiat Coupe 20vt.
The ECU diagnose & rebuild company had all the parts and were able to diagnose it specifically
@@furiousdriving Ok great
Well done.. let's hope it stays that way
A bit of tinkering on a car I like and did (ZX, 406) but more modern cars I had (C5 now 1007) are a pain to work on imho. For the 1007 I couldn't get my hand to change bulb (high beam) impossible to get there.
And yes, the old dip stick is how you measure oil, not a computer.
Nail. On. Head. Far too much technology in modern cars "fixing" problems that were never problems.
Great video, not sure how you keep a mental log of which car is where and what needs doing to each one, then there's which is taxed and insured Matt.
Great to see the Alfa lives again! Great little car. Re Mini with no dipstick words fail me, overcomplicated unnecessary technology for the sake of it! Modern cars eh? My 2013 Volvo V40 D3 also has no dipstick but thankfully doesn't need to be driven 30 miles to check the oil level.
The paint on that mini look mint
I'm seeing those Swale Heating vans everywhere after that fella stopped to talk to you in the last video
Mind you, the second gen Mini's dipstick is quite useless at indicating the correct level, but electronic measurement seems unnecessary! Not to mention, that's likely another electronic sensor that adds to the build cost and will be prone to failure.
Quite worrying when you've plugged in the fixed ECU and the bugger refuses to start. Very pleasing it started the next day.
just drain all the oil, and refill with the right amount of the right type. Only way you're going to know its right. Agree that its ridiculous that so many modern cars don't have a dipstick. I'd be in a state of constant anxiety if my Alfas didn't have a dipstick.
come on @furiousdriving please do more work on the W123 Mercedes its a shame to not have it up & running. love your videos
keep up the good work.
We had an X-Type a few years ago that wouldn't start because of a tic tac sized transponder in the key playing up. In the end we just got an old style ford key cut and did away with the immobiliser nonsense
I have never seen a 146 live (couple of 145's, sure). The 146's must be really rare.
Nice to see them running again 👍
Have you thought about a carport (side of garage) to help protect your cars 🤔
That would mean dealing with the same stupid council that made the speed humps that led to this point
yes but theres a shortage of large pieces of timber apparently..
Yess new Alfa video great for the bank holiday
Most insurance quote ask if the factory immobilizer is fitted, while its an older car will that not make the insurance invalid unless disclosed?
Pleased you got your Alfa going again, Are you still going to build a car port at home ? i built one last year and its been a great help.
Ian’s pipped you to the post with the Sinclair C5
The immobiliser delete was the way to go. Surplus to requirements on an Alfa 145...
Its self immobilising?
@@furiousdriving it has an integral anti-theft device constituted by the outer appearance of an Alfa 145. (I know how it works, I have been driving Citroëns for 30 years. No better policy than stern deterrence.)
I must say the 01 mini looks dam good Alfa being Alfa
When is the Alfa going for sale lovely colour
How did you take out the immobilzer sensor from the ECU?
Capacitors in ECU were probably empty. they would of needed around 30mins to fill going by an old airbag ECU company i used once
You need an Outdoor Carcoon for some of those cars.
I store my 68 bay in one.
I think it would blow down here, the wind is violent on my drive and garden
@@furiousdriving they are very robust, the car sits on the base and it zips into it, even in heavy winds it just bobs about.
I often wondered if car covers aren't good in the long run? Our Stag has been under a cover 3 years and i often think to myself can't be doing it much good
Ant had change the headliner on their Mini Cooper S MC40, so maybe its a common problém.
Definitely would be good to get the W123 under a roof,covers no matter how good over time just means the car rusts from the top down.
You have the patience of an angel 😇 because I would be pulling my hair out by now.
How do you think he got bald in the first place? :-)
@@olivermacke838 😲. Harsh Man. I thought that it was styled to aid Furious Driving Hats modelling.
Are you keeping the automatic transmission in the Mercedes W123. Also Matt have you seen Anthony Gozzo Specialty Motor Cars channel, the stuff he gets is absolutely incredible. All those big beautiful American land yachts.
The rust on that bonnet is being held together by the paint!
Could you not construct a car port off the side of your garage to the fence? Would give you covered parking for the merc and Alfa.
I’ve been trying to buy the timber fir a few weeks but keep getting stalled by the merchant
Fixed , the volvo still the best 👌🤓👍
Mr d furious.
So now that you have fixed the Alfa and removed the factory immobilizer from the car. How would this affect your cars insurance policy?
Would it need to be declared?
You have to tell them and it would raise the premium but a new Thatcham approved one brings it back to the same place
@@furiousdriving bloody cars
I know we all love our projects but that Mecedes would be going haha
Hi Matt, could you make a car port for the Mercedes?,attached to the side of your garage??
Been trying to buy timber for a while but keep getting told the long lengths aren't available at the moment
@@furiousdriving I’m a builder ( bricklayer) and materials are a real problem.Wood and roof tiles in particular
Glad your car runs again.
Instead of a immobilizer look at a STOPLOCK professional, Thatcham approved, use one more so as it's a visual deterrent and have second thoughts before even trying anything
I have one on the Coupe, and have been meaning to get a couple more for the other cars
@@furiousdriving ah cool my mates take piss me using one, I'd rather have it lol
Forget the Rover Coupe for a while, this should be the Mini’s year.
epic. keep the vids coming
As for the modern Mini Cooper, blame BMW.
When you sell Quentin, get rid of the Mercedes-Benz, I think it will take even more money 💷 than Quentin to make it road worthy because it is a Mercedes-Benz. Then you can concentrate on your Rover's.
I do love the classic Mini, and nice going with the Alfa-Roméo.
Who else thought this was the top gear teenage challenge from looking at the thumbnail? 🤣
Are you going to fit the new immobiliser or will you be getting an electrician to do it?
It needs a certificate for Insurance
I would fully oil the merc with a rag.
The new mini " you have low oil,but you need to drive it to discover how low" is just stupid.
As you say a dip stick and gravity served engines well for over 100 years,why reinvent the wheel? (Oh yeah, for dealer profits£££)
5:02 That went almost too easy. Not dissing Alfa quality ofc
At least the Alfa works again...
so was the immobiliser linked to the factory key fob for unlocking the doors or didn't it have that function before?
no, people often think it is but its just the transponder in the key
Yay!
No dipstick on the mini yes it's horrible getting oil on your fingers and having to find a rag to wipe it worlds gone mad
Sware at like my dad use to do then it will go
I take it the BMW f20 has no dipstick either?
Matt i sold my Alfa yesterday
Hopefully to someone who will love it
I see you've got the red key with the single button. You should be able to get the factory alarm and remote central locking working if you can find the right person to decode your receiver. The immobiliser is a completely separate system from the alarm and remote locking. My 916 Spider uses the same system and I sent off the receiver and boards from within the keys to a very helpful chap called GialloEvo on an Alfa 145 forum and he reset the receiver back to factory defaults and provided me with the codes from my remotes. I don't know if he still does it because I had it done 7 years ago. I went from having to unlock my Alfa physically with the key to a fully working remote central locking and alarm system with codes to program any additional remotes in the future. I've also got the workshop manual for the Alfa 145 alarm and remote locking system if you like.
This thread was very helpful during my 'quest' for working factory remote locking. forum.alfa145.com/index.php?showtopic=21459
I did get a new key circuit board a while back but dont have the 4 digit code for it, maybe he could do something with it
WARNING: DONT PUT YOUR IMMOBILIZER ECU IN YOUR FISH TANK
Too late!!!
Sagging headliner is not just a problem with British made cars. It is a problem with just about all modern cars now as they get older and the foam behind the headliner breaks down and turns to dust and that is what the glue sticks the headliner to the backing board with so nothing left to stick to when it starts to turn to dust. The usual numpties who have to slag off British at every opportunity because they have listened to their mates or diddies from Top Gear etc. Funny how British and all other cars never had any problems with headliners when they used the previous vinyl and wire headliners that outlived the cars as long as the owners did not rip them etc.
I had the same issue with the Volvo funnily enough
This is why I hate modern cars: the sagging headliner of the pre-production car is a VERY minor annoyance compared to the oil check with the display and menu's in the new Mini. It's all software, and all software comes with faults that will only be fixed when the manufacturer takes the effort to fix it, you cannot repair or modify it yourself because the code is a trade secret and will never be disclosed, also you need to pay an expensive visit to the dealer to get the software updated. These cars are built with planned obsolescence, because when the display breaks it will render your car virtually useless. If a replacement is unavailable or more expensive than the car is worth, you can take your car to the scrapyard. The 2001 pre-production Mini R50 will most definitely live another 10 years, while the F54 will probably never reach 20 years.
Sagging headliner is a problem with most modern cars after they get older as the foam behind the headliner breaks down with age. Never was a problem with the old vinyl and wire headliners.
@@williamwoods8022 but still, with some glue you can fix this. Ask any Saab owner.
However, when the computer or display fails you're SOL.
An old saying you can't save everything bro one job at a time