you can go 40 fortitude preshrine for exoskeleton for the extra defense and hp without losing out on much, youll still have 25 fortitude postshrine for conditioned runner and at no cost to the rest of your stats. (you can also go tough love preshrine too, its probably better that you do if you want a little more stats into heavy at the end, but youll be above 90 heavy either way after going exoskeleton preshrine)
2 wrong things that might confuse people ( including me) 1: core stats is wrong, i have felinor and the max u could go is 5 will 5 str 3 agl 3 char 1 fort 2: when u choose duo stats it gives you 5 and 6 stats not 4 and 6
i cant order i have the stats he showed pre order but i dont have 10 knowlage bc im only level 8 and i have all the stats he said pre shrine what do i do?
i made the build and this is super good, thanks for sharing your pve knowledge with us. although after i shrine of ordered my stats looked different and i had everything right, i got 15 points into all the elements and 17 charisma but besides that it went well subbed
Yo quick question did you also use deepbound because deepbound doesn’t seem supper logical because it means you have to kill an enforcer at lvl 8 to go to shrine of order
Nice build yet again thanks for sharing all these with us also is felinor necessary? I mean I have it but I feel like vesperian would be better maybe for the defense
yo i like your vids dude, i wanna ask can we go gran suda and make 40 or 50 weapon? and why you dont go heretic sutra? or piercing will? good build ngl pls answer
i dont really like gran as a weapon, only reason you would go extra will is for underdog and ardor scream. insanity makes parasites grow faster so its not good for a farming route. plus this build is already at damage cap
I'm gonna make the build but getting ghost preshrine, so overall losing 2 points into hvy weapon but i think the survivability from ghost makes it worth.
ooo this is actually very good ty for sharing this ima make this, also i would like to ask should i farm dvm or hp equipment for say survivalbilty purposes for this build? edit: also why are we going deepbound? for exp gain or something else
i just use high dvm, although if you aren't that good with etherion this build could probably still 1 cycle ethrion with low dvm. and i go deepbound for xp and depths tp
you can also go 50 willpower preshrine to get underdog, the only change that happens after you shrine is you have 90 heavy instead of 95, if you *want* you can also get ardour scream preshrine this way as well, though considering the nature of the build i dont recommend it considering ardour scream takes your ether down to 0
yh i saw v3 after i posted this comment lmao, but because i have plenty of felinors i prefer v2, especially with as flexible as is currently going to wipe my current felinor pve (it was in prog) since i just made a better one in the builder, lets me get ghost talents which is nice for extra survivability
I do wonder dont you need to put atleast I point from training into the normal attributes? Or is it actually possible to use shrine of order with the starter stats.
yeah but what gems did you put in the moves and what modifiers? also would it be okay if i did 30 flame and 85 hvy since its too late and i didnt get flame wisp yet
@@fznyahoo I pretty much did 25 charisma pre shrine, although this can make the build harder to shrine. Meaning you most likely need to shrine of blasphemy, use ganyemedes perk by shrine of chance or get extremely lucky
@@hihi-hp7hgI tried putting this in builder but instead with 35 pre shrine to try and get neuro and the end stats are surprisingly about the same as the vid but U can actually get 20 flame and 100 heavy
i'd suggest making the version 1 of this build, this one required a bit more skill at layer 2 to get fast times with. v1 is a bit outdated but i plan to make a remake of it today or tomorrow
very good build, but how do you progress flamecharm if you dont have any flame move when you spawn? i'm new to deepbound origin so i don't know much about it
the build maker link is in the comments as a said in the outro, youtube doesn't like me putting links in the description deepwoken.co/builder?id=7tegQZM9
Couldn't I go crystallization path with like blazing for example, wouldn't I still be proccing nullifying clarity with blazing and getting the damage from the crystals?
you dont even need blazing, immolation already spreads fire to those you hit if you're on fire, tho theres the fire cooldown where any human entity cant get set on fire twice within around 1.5 seconds
@@SkiperGripper oh and btw can you tell me how to progress this build pre shrine? because if i get unlucky with mantras/talents i wont have enough knowledge for order and killing bosses at power 8 isnt really an option for me. not even having someone carry you floor 2 helps as klaris doesnt accept medallions pre power 15
i have 49 on my main set of gear nor do you even need that much to 2 cycle chasers. heroblade are also boring and rely alot of chain stacks to work. While they are good for ferryman my PVE has far higher burst damage
@@SkiperGripper I am so stupid, I always go vow of thorns so I can get stuff, but this isn’t a hellmode build so idk why I take that modifier, love your build man and you earned a subscriber
Is it possible for me to switch out oathless for dawnwalker and increase fortitude to 40 so that i can get neuroplasticity and exoskeleton and have extra wildcards at the same time?
is ironsing mandatory? i want to recreate the build but i dont see much use of ironsing in this build, so im planning on using gale instead of ironsing. Do you think this will do or ironsing is much better?
What about gale? Also fyi I tested it and for some reason flame within DOESNT give you a speed boost. It's kinda stupid imo it says in the talent description "Sets the caster ablaze until they die, increasing strength and *speed* but dealing burn damage" So make sure to use a wind gem on one of your mantras or use evanspear.
I have wiped 10+ times trying to make this build and I think I am confused. I start out getting flame gun and a metal combat mantra and I make sure to mystic all my talents b4 powering up, but I just can't seem to get flame wisp, metal armanant, and metal ball before I have to shrine of order. Can you show the order in which you made this?
I quote from the patch notes "Nullifying Clarity no longer applies to instantaneous effects like shadow's elemental ether drain. Nullifying Clarity now applies to the Fear talent status" @@SkiperGripper (basicly a nerf)
yo so just a question either im an idiot or something is wrong i got the pre shrine of order reqs and when im going to shirne of order it literaly just tells me to go away and no stats were changed anything im doing wrong please let me know
taunt does work against them and you 100% can use it i just wanted the healing over it. I can say as i fact this build already does enough damage to easily 2 and 1 cycle chaser and etherion
@@prze4214 Remember that the cap is 175% and your already using isshin's ring and are very squishy taunt also makes u take more dmg so i wouldn't recommend it
Wait, why oathless? I see you aren't putting enough points into Willpower to get Blindseer, but wouldn't another oath with no stat requirements like Dawnwalker be a good option?
I thought that too until I realized I needed space to put glacial arc and metal ball, dawnwalker isn’t really that good for pve and blindseer isn’t that good for layer 2
the main reason im using det is because a video on 1 cycling chaser i saw used it, so i assumed it was the best (always afk and other speedrunners were in the call) th-cam.com/video/QNzMn0XU5wU/w-d-xo.html
heavy weapon is always best for pve, rapier would do no damage, sure it would proc the enchant faster but that doesnt matter since heavy is just so much better for pve
been trying to make this build for almost 3 days and still haven't been able to do it. i haven't gotten any of the mantras i need pre-shrine all at once and can't get them later on. i'm so confused as to what i'm doing wrong
@@SkiperGripper i've done this build over 30 times now and still haven't gotten the right mantras. i can get the talents every single time but the mantras are never there even with mystic.
I need some help here cause so far from what im seeing get the first three mantras being flame wisp, metal ball, and metal armament is so rng based which makes me wipe multiple times like do i need to talk to the shrine in trial of one?
@@SkiperGripper i do trial of one so it doesnt take me forever only for me to get none of the mantras i need cause im just trying to figure out what guarantees the chance of me getting each of those three mantras
i did about 200~ on my last build while watching back my gameplay, so i optimize the build quick. this is the 10th pve i've made, but only 2 are public
Ngl jus do this PRE SHRINE 1str 1fort 1agil 0int 1will 25 charm 1hvy 60 iorn 40 flame 2frost POST SHRINE 20str 40fort 25agil 5int 15/20 will 16 charm 14 flame 14 iron 95/100 hvy 80 frost Btw i cooked this up on an adret race idk how this gonna look on another race
deepwoken.co/builder?id=7tegQZM9 Build maker link!
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**God Slayer PVE 2.0**
Starting stats - (Race needs to be felinor) 6 Strength > 1 Fort > 3 Agility > 5 Willpower > 2 Charisma > 5 Flame > 6 Ironsing
Weapon - 3 Star dmg evanspear eandaxe (Enchant being grim or astral)
Oath - Oathless
Specs - 0 Vitality, 0 Erudition, 6 Proficiency, 6 Songchant
Progression - 60 Ironsing > 40 Flamecharm > 3 Charisma > 15 Heavy > 1 Frostdraw > **Shrine of order** 5 Int > 20 Strength > 25 Fort > 25 Agility > 20 Willpower > 25 Charisma > 80 Frostdraw > 95 Heavy > 20 Flamecharm
**Main Cards Needed**
__Preshrine__
- Phoenix flames
- Immolation
- Agitating spark
- Masterwork
- Artisan's blade
- Gilded path: scrapsinger
- Last laugh
- Flame within
- Dancing steps
- Flaming flourish
- Exposed durability
- Metal eater
__Postshrine__
- Conditioned runner
- Endurance runner
- Scaredy cat
- Spine cutter
- Fishman
- Saint jay
- Lootskipper
- Bloodiron spirit
- Ice elemental rebound
- Kick off
- Time to go
- Scuba drowner
- Carnivore
- Grand feast
- Giant slayer
- Charismatic cast
- Tough love
- Chilling flourish
- Charged return
- Nullifying clarity
- Orbital ice
- Glacial coating
- Cryosis
- Frost buster
- Replenishing knockout
- Matador
- Frostdraw unbounded
- Any health cards, carryload, or elemental intensity cards
**Mantras**
__Frostdraw__
- Warden's blades
- Frozen servents
- Ice cubes
- Ice skates
- Glacial arc
__Ironsing__
- Metal armament
- Metal ball
__Flamecharm__
- Flame wisp
__No attunement__
- Dread breath (helps with ferryman clones)
((Please let me know if I got anything wrong))
how do i level up flamecharm if i dont have any flamecharm mantras to get 40 stats on it
dam that crazy detailed
@@RickGrimes122spam hearthgem
@@SkiperGripper Do you think black diver is better or prophet's cloak for this build?
@@RickGrimes122 do to1
Man you deserve more views the quality is so good. Subbed
Much appreciated!
you can go 40 fortitude preshrine for exoskeleton for the extra defense and hp without losing out on much, youll still have 25 fortitude postshrine for conditioned runner and at no cost to the rest of your stats. (you can also go tough love preshrine too, its probably better that you do if you want a little more stats into heavy at the end, but youll be above 90 heavy either way after going exoskeleton preshrine)
yeah im sure this build can be optimized even more!
bro can you tell me how I have to put my stats to get 40 fortitude? the whole preshrine
@@pier2837 go with the exact same attunement stats + 40 fortitude
Yeah cuz like when I go 40 fort I wont level up and therefore cant get exoskeleton
@@theshengster9282bit late but shrine of chance
2 wrong things that might confuse people ( including me)
1: core stats is wrong, i have felinor and the max u could go is 5 will 5 str 3 agl 3 char 1 fort
2: when u choose duo stats it gives you 5 and 6 stats not 4 and 6
neither of those things change anything, regardless, you have 14 left over stat points anyways. and you level up both elements instantly
i cant order i have the stats he showed pre order but i dont have 10 knowlage bc im only level 8 and i have all the stats he said
pre shrine what do i do?
get extra knowledge from the ghost that appears at the start of layer 2. just choose the 2nd option while talking to her
i made the build and this is super good, thanks for sharing your pve knowledge with us. although after i shrine of ordered my stats looked different and i had everything right, i got 15 points into all the elements and 17 charisma but besides that it went well
subbed
sometimes shrine can do that, its buggy
still worked out in the end so its alright, cool build man keep it up you're pretty awesomesauce@@SkiperGripper
@@SkiperGripperit's not buggy just random
@@SkiperGripperhow much dvm does your build have?
Yo quick question did you also use deepbound because deepbound doesn’t seem supper logical because it means you have to kill an enforcer at lvl 8 to go to shrine of order
Nice build yet again thanks for sharing all these with us also is felinor necessary? I mean I have it but I feel like vesperian would be better maybe for the defense
the def buff from vesperian isn't that huge, the climb height from felinor makes the bounders nest skip alot easier to do
felinor only gets a climbing boost on wood im pretty sure.@@SkiperGripper
@@floggIogthey made it so it also works on stone a long time ago
@@lolnah1992but its weaker
@@prze4214 oh, well it's still a nice lil boost
yo i like your vids dude, i wanna ask can we go gran suda and make 40 or 50 weapon? and why you dont go heretic sutra? or piercing will? good build ngl
pls answer
i dont really like gran as a weapon, only reason you would go extra will is for underdog and ardor scream. insanity makes parasites grow faster so its not good for a farming route. plus this build is already at damage cap
@@SkiperGripperoh i did an gran suda version of this build and it was so good. But still i think this build is good too(better)
I love the builds tysm
glad you enjoyed it, hopefully i will be done progressing it soon
used this build and 2 cycled chaser easily, and 3 cycled with a friend. Very op hopefully doesnt get nerfed 👍
it probably wont
I'm gonna make the build but getting ghost preshrine, so overall losing 2 points into hvy weapon but i think the survivability from ghost makes it worth.
i personally dont think ghost will benifit you very much, but if the other stats aren't affected much i guess i'll work
@@SkiperGripper I just like the convenience and the guarantee ethiron ult dodge
@@kaminoseifuku-sha7670 if you are decent at timing it metal ball can dodge it
@@SkiperGripper have PTSD from the one time someone used metal ball and got stuck on an edge and almost wiped.
ooo this is actually very good ty for sharing this ima make this,
also i would like to ask should i farm dvm or hp equipment for say survivalbilty purposes for this build?
edit: also why are we going deepbound? for exp gain or something else
i just use high dvm, although if you aren't that good with etherion this build could probably still 1 cycle ethrion with low dvm. and i go deepbound for xp and depths tp
you can also go 50 willpower preshrine to get underdog, the only change that happens after you shrine is you have 90 heavy instead of 95, if you *want* you can also get ardour scream preshrine this way as well, though considering the nature of the build i dont recommend it considering ardour scream takes your ether down to 0
that reduces the damage of the build by a bit, i've tested it. also V3 does get ardour scream preshrine
yh i saw v3 after i posted this comment lmao, but because i have plenty of felinors i prefer v2, especially with as flexible as is
currently going to wipe my current felinor pve (it was in prog) since i just made a better one in the builder, lets me get ghost talents which is nice for extra survivability
2:42, question. How the hell are we supposed to shrine if it requires 10 knowledge?
echoes knowledge
@@__jebYou only get 8.
echos or get more knowledge from quests
I do wonder dont you need to put atleast I point from training into the normal attributes? Or is it actually possible to use shrine of order with the starter stats.
you can shrine of order with starter stats
yeah but what gems did you put in the moves and what modifiers? also would it be okay if i did 30 flame and 85 hvy since its too late and i didnt get flame wisp yet
You can just stay with the low flame charm and use taunt instead for more damage, 85 heavy is a big damage cut
Good video
thanks!
Yo, i modified the build a little bit, this variation is slightly better because it has extra points, about 9.
nice
What did U modify?
yeah what ddi u mod
@@fznyahoo I pretty much did 25 charisma pre shrine, although this can make the build harder to shrine. Meaning you most likely need to shrine of blasphemy, use ganyemedes perk by shrine of chance or get extremely lucky
@@hihi-hp7hgI tried putting this in builder but instead with 35 pre shrine to try and get neuro and the end stats are surprisingly about the same as the vid but U can actually get 20 flame and 100 heavy
yo skipper is this easy to make ? and would u suggest me making this if i am still learning layer 2 ?
i'd suggest making the version 1 of this build, this one required a bit more skill at layer 2 to get fast times with. v1 is a bit outdated but i plan to make a remake of it today or tomorrow
alright then i will probably wait for the remake of v1 to make it@@SkiperGripper
😳
insane
thats the plan, i wanna make the best pve
Post a video of u doing chaser, ethiron duke and ferryman, just the boss
thats the plan, you can just watch my other videos with V1 of the build since they will play very similar
so should i get crystilasition
@@SkiperGripper
do i have to kill some mob before spam element training gear?
or i can just spam element gear without killin some mobs?
just spam it as long as you have xp
@@SkiperGripperalr ty bro
do u have any tips for progging early on i barely get any flamecharm exp with mantras
you just spam the element training item
tip: monsters have armor, so its not worth getting exposed durability since by the time monsters die, they have no armor
not all monsters have armor
monsters have resistances, even if bosses like chaser had armor it'd be destroyed after the first stun
oh alr@@SkiperGripper
Do you reccomend shrine of blasphemy like supa did in his video or is it not required
i dont recommend it, but if you have to take it then do so
what's the point of picking frost buster when you're using an evanspear handaxe?
elemental intensity
does it have to be felinor? or would other races suffice
basically has to be felinor for bounder skip, you could probably do the skip without although its harder
U don’t have to I find it quite easy to just ice skate over blunders pretty much effortlessly
How do I make my ice skates not slowly fall?? I see you zipping across the map to bonekeeper and chaser but I can't do that
lvl 5
very good build, but how do you progress flamecharm if you dont have any flame move when you spawn? i'm new to deepbound origin so i don't know much about it
spam training item
is the evanspear essential? does changing it to stone heart be a really big disadvantage?
i have never considered that, there doesn't seem to be any noticeable different at all besides the critical
The issue is stoneheart doesnt have that bleed damage for chain stacks, unless they changed it
Since you said you are remaking v1, should I start making this today or wait for the v1 v2?
V2 is better if you are good at chasers but V1 is easier to use and isn't really a downgrade. V1 remake should be out later today
Is frozen servants good? my friend is saying its not that good.. ALSO what modifiers/things should i do to the mantras
yeah good, and you dont need any modifiers
hey man can u put builder link or timestamps? kinda hard having to do trial and keep scrolling through video to see if i need a talent or not lol
the build maker link is in the comments as a said in the outro, youtube doesn't like me putting links in the description
deepwoken.co/builder?id=7tegQZM9
I just got to the end of the video whilst doing trial, mb thanks for that.@@SkiperGripper
Couldn't I go crystallization path with like blazing for example, wouldn't I still be proccing nullifying clarity with blazing and getting the damage from the crystals?
didn't think of that it'll try it out when i finish progging
you dont even need blazing, immolation already spreads fire to those you hit if you're on fire, tho theres the fire cooldown where any human entity cant get set on fire twice within around 1.5 seconds
flame within automatcly puts flame on ppl while you attack
@@prze4214
yo its really hard to get flamecharm up when ur starting deepbound since i dont got any mantras at lvl 1 what should i do
spam the element training item
would you say this build is still viable without felinor? I don't feel like gambling for a race when i can just make the build with a different race
i wouldn't recommend it
is spamming attunement training gear the only good way to train attunement if you dont have mantras?
yes
@@SkiperGripper oh that takes forever tho
@@SkiperGripper oh and btw can you tell me how to progress this build pre shrine? because if i get unlucky with mantras/talents i wont have enough knowledge for order and killing bosses at power 8 isnt really an option for me.
not even having someone carry you floor 2 helps as klaris doesnt accept medallions pre power 15
lol gl getting 50% dvm.. + more efficient to use hero blades and multiple attunements for mantra pve, just much simpler.
i have 49 on my main set of gear nor do you even need that much to 2 cycle chasers. heroblade are also boring and rely alot of chain stacks to work. While they are good for ferryman my PVE has far higher burst damage
Bro I've been having so much trouble progressing this build, either i miss a talent or a mantra what do you do?
go to the overworld for mantra quest and extra talent hands
@@SkiperGripper I am so stupid, I always go vow of thorns so I can get stuff, but this isn’t a hellmode build so idk why I take that modifier, love your build man and you earned a subscriber
Which mantra modifiers do you use?
cloudstones on warden's blades and log stones on flamewisp
eternal,aeon or both in flamewisp?@@SkiperGripper
Ur commentary is like, the best in the deepwoken community
i dont think its that special, but thanks for the kind words!
@@SkiperGripper u are the goat of pve ,the successor of Raum
Bro a question, wouldn't prophet cloack be better for the 25% pen
i use that nowadays
Is it possible for me to switch out oathless for dawnwalker and increase fortitude to 40 so that i can get neuroplasticity and exoskeleton and have extra wildcards at the same time?
yeah if you want
is ironsing mandatory? i want to recreate the build but i dont see much use of ironsing in this build, so im planning on using gale instead of ironsing. Do you think this will do or ironsing is much better?
ironsing is 100% mandatory, its the 2nd best attunement in the game for PVE. you miss out on alot of mobility, 2 extra m1's and 10% damage
@@SkiperGripper whats the number 1 best pve attunement?
@@ethan1863 frostdraw
What mantra modifiers do you put on every mantra you have?
none, i just put cloudstones on warden's blades for fun
How are you gonna do the bounder skip? theres no ice lance on it, does metal ball rly work
petra's crit, ice lance, gale lunge and metal ball all work. although metal ball is just the best mobility option outside of the trick
@@SkiperGripper Ah, I see thats cool. Im gonna prog this build with my extra felinor slot ty!
Are there any modifications on mantras? also what levels are all my mantras
cloudstones on combat ones and max level mantras
@@SkiperGripper how many cloud stones and do I need to modify flame wisp?
also how can I escape when im power 8 with deepbound?
is there any gems I should but on my mantras?
Is felinor needed to make this build becasue im not a felinor and I’m progressing this build
highly recommended, although V3 doesn't
What about gale? Also fyi I tested it and for some reason flame within DOESNT give you a speed boost. It's kinda stupid imo it says in the talent description "Sets the caster ablaze until they die, increasing strength and *speed* but dealing burn damage" So make sure to use a wind gem on one of your mantras or use evanspear.
yeah like you said i'd put a wind gem on frozen servants or warden's blades. seeing as i dont go for crazy slots very often i dont have one rn
I have wiped 10+ times trying to make this build and I think I am confused. I start out getting flame gun and a metal combat mantra and I make sure to mystic all my talents b4 powering up, but I just can't seem to get flame wisp, metal armanant, and metal ball before I have to shrine of order. Can you show the order in which you made this?
ok
whats the level on your mantra, and do i need to lv my ironsing and flamecharm mantra pre shrine
thats not how shrine of order works, it lowers the level
what about replacing flame wisp for taunt instead? or is the damage already hard capped
taunt bypassed the cap and i plan to take taunt for chaser using shrine of unification
Do we still take nulliflying clarity for this build since it got nerfed?
it didn't get nerfed its still as good as it was
Also little more info: pocket bombs for the family recipe quest talent gives free 5 hp + 2 elemental
I quote from the patch notes "Nullifying Clarity no longer applies to instantaneous effects like shadow's elemental ether drain. Nullifying Clarity now applies to the Fear talent status"
@@SkiperGripper (basicly a nerf)
how do you train your iron sing and flamecharm in the beginning its impossible every 5 monsters i get only 1 point is there a faster way?
spam element training items
doesnt work tells me withouth real experience it wont go up
@@SkiperGripper
how did you have 3 mobility mantras? when i go on builder ball ark and ice skate are all mobility mantras. did this get nerfed already???
oathless, no the build did not get nerfed
i like the build i just dont know where to get the 2 extra knowledge for shrine of order, i thought it was 10 not 8
i have a video on knowledge quests
My ice skates take a lot of ether, how can I make it go as long as yours?
blue gem
@@SkiperGripper I did that and it barely increased by much, but now it’s good thanks!
yo so just a question either im an idiot or something is wrong i got the pre shrine of order reqs and when im going to shirne of order it literaly just tells me to go away and no stats were changed anything im doing wrong please let me know
probably just a knowledge issue
@@SkiperGripper oh shit i forgot to get knowledge and wiped oh im such an idiot thanks 💀💀💀
does taunt work against chaser, and eithiron? and if so why dont you use it on this build?
taunt does work against them and you 100% can use it i just wanted the healing over it. I can say as i fact this build already does enough damage to easily 2 and 1 cycle chaser and etherion
@@SkiperGripperok but, taunt multiplies the dmg by 1.2x over the already multiplied dmg
@@prze4214 Remember that the cap is 175% and your already using isshin's ring and are very squishy taunt also makes u take more dmg so i wouldn't recommend it
When do you get oathless?
whenever
If you progress this build as deepbound, how do you get the third attunement? Do you just go back up and get the potion?
How else would you get it?
Yeah, fair enough ig, I just don’t know if I can kill enforcer at power 9
go to the surface
used this build and wiped to fall damage while trying to bell check 💀watch out for those metal balls + glacial arcs without dashing!!!!
oh yeah, i've gotten to like half a bar in the depths. i wouldn't use it in layer 1
how do u dont go down with ice skate in f1? so i just go slow down with it
level 5
Wait, why oathless? I see you aren't putting enough points into Willpower to get Blindseer, but wouldn't another oath with no stat requirements like Dawnwalker be a good option?
I thought that too until I realized I needed space to put glacial arc and metal ball, dawnwalker isn’t really that good for pve and blindseer isn’t that good for layer 2
oathless just has wildcard slots and +10 hp
what modifiers u used in the mantras?
cloudstones on wardens and log stones on flamewisp
How the hell are you getting points before shrine of order? You didnt pick up any damaging mantras before, how???
spam training items
can i use ice lance instead of metal ball? i did all pre shrine stats and didnt get metal ball so im wondering if ill have to restart the build or not
metal ball gives way more mobility, if you dont want to re progress you dont have to go for it
how do i progress this build? i'm starting as deepbound but am unsure as to how i'm supposed to level up my attunements
it just takes awhile to level up ur attunements since u dont have mantras but ask people for dying embers so u can eat them to level up flame
@@deepwokenlover7628 so should i prog flame first? Or ironsing?
spam element training items it gives points
what modifiers you use on wardens blade
just cloudstones
can i use caltrops too for the build or nah?
caltrops is not good for layer 2, nor would it be doing damage
@@SkiperGripper oh okay
should i go crazy slots on this build?
you can, i dont for consistency but it can make 2 cycling with grip easier
would it be fine if i went for 50 will instead of 25 charisma? underdog gives the same dmg buff and it allows me to use blindseer
you could probably do that, you'd get ardor scream too!
@@SkiperGripper yeah, charisma is better for team fights and ether but i solo everything so ill do 50 will
And how do you get flamechsrm as a deepbound you cant go to trial of one or do yiu just spamm hearthgem?
spam element training item
Instead of charisma I got 50 wp because it is just more dmg and allows me to get blindseer
it does not add damage, going underdog is a direct downgrade in damage,
Charm only adds 10%, but all the wp talents can add up to 30% or more
Wouldn't it be better with a grim rapier because you just have to land 1 crit then 1 m1 to get the grim proc
the main reason im using det is because a video on 1 cycling chaser i saw used it, so i assumed it was the best (always afk and other speedrunners were in the call) th-cam.com/video/QNzMn0XU5wU/w-d-xo.html
heavy weapon is always best for pve, rapier would do no damage, sure it would proc the enchant faster but that doesnt matter since heavy is just so much better for pve
its light and isnt enforcers axe then better too cause its crit
Why didnt you use prophet cloak for more mantra pen instead of black diver u can save about 6 points as well
20 willpower is for giant slayer
Can I invent 20 more points into strength so I can get starkindred or nah?
that'd tank the damage so much, so no
Do i have to be a felinor or works as a gremor or etrean and can u tell me which is better if works as etrean or gremor
felinor makes bounders nest skip easier, all other races dont do anything for the build
@@SkiperGripperso I kind of gotta be a felinor
to make it easy yeah
which are the mantra modifiers?
cloudstones on warden's blades
what happens if you don't get all the mantras you need pre shrine
wipe. or do mantra quest in surface
@@SkiperGripper wdym mantra quest
how am i supposed to get all those scrapsinger talents and ironsing talents if im shrining at lvl 8 and i barely get 50 ironsing at lvl7
you can get them, get extra talent hands on the surface if you need
How can this build have Fishman and conditioned runner did they change it?
they are no longer mutually exclusive
as veemo said
what order should i train the stats?
pretty much just the order i showed in the video
Wait so why do we go get cold head if we use flame within?
elemental intensity, and just dont use flamewithin on ice
Fair enough, Thank you for the response.@@SkiperGripper
What modifiers should I use for the mantras?
cloudstones for warden's
wich mantras do you use?
its in the video
are we supposed to just grind flame to 40 as soonn as we spawn in ? or like
preferably
is there a stat order?
yes that same order i say in the video
been trying to make this build for almost 3 days and still haven't been able to do it. i haven't gotten any of the mantras i need pre-shrine all at once and can't get them later on. i'm so confused as to what i'm doing wrong
seems unlucky, just mystic every power, get extra talent hands pre-shrine and do mantra quest in surface
@@SkiperGripper i've done this build over 30 times now and still haven't gotten the right mantras. i can get the talents every single time but the mantras are never there even with mystic.
I have problem with the core attributes
ok
If i dont do bounder skip can i not use felinor?
there is no reason to not use bounders nest skip, its a free time save
i dont get it how are u supposed to train flamecharm without and mantras? without training anything else and messing up shrine of order
spam the training item
is deepbound required?
no its jsut highly recommended
I need some help here cause so far from what im seeing get the first three mantras being flame wisp, metal ball, and metal armament is so rng based which makes me wipe multiple times like do i need to talk to the shrine in trial of one?
im not sure i have the same problem as you
do mantra quest in surface
@@SkiperGripper i do trial of one so it doesnt take me forever only for me to get none of the mantras i need cause im just trying to figure out what guarantees the chance of me getting each of those three mantras
HOW IS BRO COOKING UP A BETTER ONE ALREADY?!!1
i did about 200~ on my last build while watching back my gameplay, so i optimize the build quick. this is the 10th pve i've made, but only 2 are public
Ngl jus do this
PRE SHRINE
1str
1fort
1agil
0int
1will
25 charm
1hvy
60 iorn
40 flame
2frost
POST SHRINE
20str
40fort
25agil
5int
15/20 will
16 charm
14 flame
14 iron
95/100 hvy
80 frost
Btw i cooked this up on an adret race idk how this gonna look on another race
you kinda have to use felinor with v2 of the build just cause climb height, but i like your variation.
@@SkiperGripper ty
those it work for hellmode?
no, hellmode builds need to be alot more tanky, so you'd take away alot of this builds movement and burst damage.
bro do you have a discord server. if no make one
i may make one soon
what does elemental intesity do in pve
chilling effect lasts longer i think
Whats the point of going 20 str?
spinecutter