Higher order derivatives | Chapter 10, Essence of calculus

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  • @derekdziobek5998
    @derekdziobek5998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2263

    The change of position over time is velocity.
    The change of velocity over time is acceleration.
    The change of acceleration over time is a jerk.
    The change of a jerk over time is an election.

    • @balaportejean7015
      @balaportejean7015 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      when know who it is ahahhahaha

    • @Fujibayashi50
      @Fujibayashi50 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @Spaced without a trace Cool story, bro

    • @cletushumphrey9163
      @cletushumphrey9163 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @Spaced without a trace at what certain point in time did anyone ask

    • @johnnypiquel2295
      @johnnypiquel2295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@cletushumphrey9163 did anyone ask you to reply ?

    • @mannyheffley9551
      @mannyheffley9551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Spaced without a trace fax

  • @pillsofpink2546
    @pillsofpink2546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    My calculus professor is sending us links to these vids instead of having a zoom lecture. So congrats on teaching MATH155 at Colorado State University.

    • @confusedsperm9521
      @confusedsperm9521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Bruhhh when free online material is bettah than paid University teaching , I love the future

    • @mau345
      @mau345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Ahahaha honestly though its the best for everyone

    • @bernhard8051
      @bernhard8051 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      So you pay a huge amount of money and they don’t even bother to do anything?

  • @RandomDays906
    @RandomDays906 7 ปีที่แล้ว +958

    The 4th, 5th, and 6th derivatives are Snap, Crackle, and Pop, respectively.

    • @jamesmnguyen
      @jamesmnguyen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Dominic Boggio
      Lock and Drop

    • @TheZenytram
      @TheZenytram 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      lol this is really true.

    • @buxkhurana
      @buxkhurana 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      yo can u tell me a good source to learn this pls thanks

    • @dqrksun
      @dqrksun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@buxkhurana Wikipedia

    • @te22arg28
      @te22arg28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      *The 4th, 5th and 6th derivatives of position with respect to time. Other derivates aren’t called this

  • @tobybartels8426
    @tobybartels8426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    4:48 : I have to correct this, because it confuses my students too. You said ‘A negative second derivative [of displacement] indicates slowing down’, but that's only correct _if_ the velocity is positive. As you noted in the video on derivatives, a negative velocity means that you are headed in the negative direction. And in that case, a negative acceleration means that you are _speeding up,_ with the velocity becoming even more negative, while a _positive_ acceleration means that you are slowing down. If you want a quantity that's positive when you're speeding up and negative when you're slowing down, then you need to take the derivative of the _speed,_ that is of the absolute value of the velocity, so the second derivative of the total distance travelled, but _not_ the second derivative of the displacement. (Arguably, this fits more with the way we use the word ‘acceleration’ in ordinary language, but the technical meaning is the second derivative of displacement.)
    As an aside, this disparity becomes even more extreme if you're moving in multiple dimensions of space. In that case, the displacement, velocity, and acceleration are all vectors, and it doesn't make sense to say that they are positive or negative as such. Then the speed is the magnitude of the velocity vector, and the derivative of the speed is again positive if you're speeding up and negative if you're slowing down. But now it's also possible for the derivative of the speed to be zero, even if the acceleration is nonzero! In that case, the speed is constant but the velocity is not, because you're changing direction.

    • @bonniejacques9176
      @bonniejacques9176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Came here to say just this. Thanks!!

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@bonniejacques9176 : You're welcome! I really went on about it, didn't I?

    • @uncleswell
      @uncleswell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@tobybartels8426 this is the kind of setting and content where you should go on about it. I really appreciate you taking the time to share this.. thank you.

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@uncleswell : You're welcome!

    • @amanpants275
      @amanpants275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't the negation of second derivative gives max of function

  • @Ash-bc8vw
    @Ash-bc8vw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks

  • @dannyundos8927
    @dannyundos8927 7 ปีที่แล้ว +507

    I think Korean is funnier here. After "velocity", you just add "가".
    Displacement = 변위
    Velocity = 속도
    Acceleration = 가속도
    Jerk = 가가속도
    4th derivative = 가가가속도
    5th derivative = 가가가가속도
    6th derivative = 가가가가가속도
    ...
    nth derivative = (가)^(n-1)속도

    • @새싹-l9z
      @새싹-l9z 7 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      nth derivative : gagagagagagagagagagagaagagagagagaggagaagagagaga.....gagagasokdo

    • @doctorlove5415
      @doctorlove5415 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      this is beautiful

    • @Anonymous-jo2no
      @Anonymous-jo2no 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Wait... the Korean for "velocity" is sokdo?
      I smell loanword here... (速度/そくど) wwwww
      Yes, of course I know the word in both languages is a loanword from Ancient Chinese...

    • @youknowwho8925
      @youknowwho8925 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly same as Cantonese

    • @이효건-o4o
      @이효건-o4o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amazing I didn't know that

  • @xtuner88
    @xtuner88 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2147

    Who dislikes this video is a 3rd derivative

    • @dijek5511
      @dijek5511 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      whoever, or those who

    • @EriqireM
      @EriqireM 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      *ahem* whomever

    • @dijek5511
      @dijek5511 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Actually whoever though, because it is a subject and not an object :P.

    • @EriqireM
      @EriqireM 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Is the video the subject, or is the individual the subject? "Whomever" isn't incorrect its just impolite, which reinforces the joke.

    • @patrickhodson8715
      @patrickhodson8715 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Edward McCarthy no, it is incorrect because "whomever" is the object case. It's like saying "him went to the store" instead of "he"

  • @noone3367
    @noone3367 7 ปีที่แล้ว +147

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      @300483rahul 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

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      @JorgetePanete 6 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @JorgetePanete 6 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @idrisShiningTimes
    @idrisShiningTimes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful explanation, visualisation, and most importantly, the simplicity you always use to explain complex terms. Love it

  • @mesplin3
    @mesplin3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    3:47
    "Interestingly, there is a notion in math called the 'exterior derivative' which treats this 'd' as having a more independent meaning, though it's less relatable to the intuitions I've introduced in this series"

  • @patrickhodson8715
    @patrickhodson8715 7 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Nowadays everyone is releasing non-episodes in the same universe. First there was _Rogue One: a Star Wars Story,_ and now we've got _Higher Order Derivatives: a Calculus Story._

  • @kjekelle96
    @kjekelle96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:00 intro
    0:39 derivative of the derivative
    1:53 notation
    3:58 intuition
    5:05 outro

  • @SandeepSingh-qr3dk
    @SandeepSingh-qr3dk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hello Grant, I really admire your videos as you can see I am watching these again even after two years. Please do a series of animations on Complex Analysis and Transforms (laplace, Fourier and Z).

  • @aajjeee
    @aajjeee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    Position
    Velocity
    Acceleration
    Jerk
    snap
    Crackle
    Pop

    • @AvinashtheIyerHaHaLOL
      @AvinashtheIyerHaHaLOL 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      you forgot displacement

    • @MCPhssthpok
      @MCPhssthpok 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Barnesrino Kripperino I was taught velocity, acceleration, jerk and jounce.

    • @Wherrimy
      @Wherrimy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Also, Jounce (d(Jerk)/dx), Absement, Absity...

    • @aajjeee
      @aajjeee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      neither jounce nor snap is accepted widely, but there is an informal rule that the higher orders are snap crackle and pop

    • @swiminbandgeek
      @swiminbandgeek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Barnesrino Kripperino you don't have to be a stick in the mud

  • @unclegranpawafiaahmedyahia5925
    @unclegranpawafiaahmedyahia5925 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ces vidéos sont supers..je conseil ;
    grand merci 3bleus 1marron..

  • @hahahasan
    @hahahasan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    You should definitely do a video on the gamma function and fractional derivatives.

  • @chaosui3169
    @chaosui3169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:31 much clear now: the second derivative is treated as the difference of two first derivative: if its positive, it increases

  • @loganstrong5426
    @loganstrong5426 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I took Calculus (1 2 and 3) back in high school. I am watching this series for probably the third time because these were all the same intuitions I had that helped me understand the subject the first time around. Keep up the great work with all your videos!

  • @SuperElephant
    @SuperElephant 7 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    -5 >> Absounce
    -4 >> Abserk
    -3 >> Abseleration
    -2 >>Absity
    -1 >>Absement
    0 >> Displacement
    1 >> Velocity
    2 >> Acceleration
    3 >> Jerk
    4 >> Jounce
    I really had a hard time understanding Less than 0 and more than 2...
    Can anyone make a video to explain it all??

    • @bace1000
      @bace1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Absement is just displacement multiplied by time, i.e. how far an object is from a point and for how long it has been there. It is constant only if the object is not displaced, but is steadily increasing if the object is displaced.

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and you can do a half derivatives

    • @buxkhurana
      @buxkhurana 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yo can u tell me a good source to learn this pls thanks

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Is there an interesting and readable source on half derivatives? I only heard about their existence a year ago and I'm pretty curious

    • @dadgumit2505
      @dadgumit2505 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      negative derivatives are just integrals right?

  • @oidazaubara
    @oidazaubara ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "change of how the function changes" really made it click there. Thank you.

  • @ryanlira7194
    @ryanlira7194 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    can u do an essence of differential equations? ubhave no idea how much i love these

  • @marcinukaszyk4698
    @marcinukaszyk4698 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just want to say:thank you! I learned a lot

  • @ghostofastarman4479
    @ghostofastarman4479 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It looks like this series is going to end the day of my AP Calculus exam. Thanks for helping me study +3Bue1Brown

  • @robwhitlock5030
    @robwhitlock5030 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    3:17 Why is d(df) proportional to (dx)^2?

    • @iabervon
      @iabervon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Rob Whitlock It helps to work it out for something like f(x)=x^2, like in the earlier video about the derivative of x^2. In that, df was 2 rectangles, x by dx. Now, ddf means that you add another dx to x in the df illustration, which puts a dx by dx square on each rectangle. The area of this pair of squares is 2dx^2. If you go through the example derivative illustrations, you'll find that they each work this way (cubes add 6 x by dx by dx boxes, sin has a tiny triangle on a tiny triangle, and so on).

    • @艾歐小塊玻璃
      @艾歐小塊玻璃 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d like to share a example of f(x)=x^2
      I think of it d(df) as the difference between the 2 df just like they were in the video. so d(df) = df2 - df1
      If f(x)=x^2, df = 2•dx•x (like the 2 rectangles in the earlier video)
      d(df) = df2 - df1 = 2•dx•X2 - 2•dx•X1
      (Just like the video, let X2 = X1 + dx)
      Factor the 2•dx out
      We get 2•dx•(X2-X1) = 2•dx•dx
      So, it seems like that ddf is proportional to (dx)^2 in this example

  • @ErmisSouldatos
    @ErmisSouldatos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is so well explained and intuitive. why can't all teachers teach it this way instead of boring formulas and telling you to stfu when you ask why this is so, which is what my teacher did all the time? Did he have to be such a d^3s/dx^3 ?

  • @tymothylim6550
    @tymothylim6550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for this video! It was quite informative seeing how the 2nd derivative can be a comparison between two sets of 1st derivative value multiplied by some dx

  • @alyssabowen9297
    @alyssabowen9297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my gosh, thank you. I finally understand now. I was having a hard time figuring out the relationship between f(x), f'(x), and f''(x) but the displacement, velocity, and acceleration explanation made so much sense.

  • @loganborghi5727
    @loganborghi5727 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the double upload made my day, thanks

  • @severussnape5171
    @severussnape5171 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you must be some kind of god...thanks for these awesomely illustrated and explained videos Sir!

  • @vigneshbalaji21
    @vigneshbalaji21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome explanation of order of derivatives. Intuitively explaining rate of change of slope as second derivative.

  • @YunsuPark-xz2uu
    @YunsuPark-xz2uu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:54 does anyone know why (dx)² becomes dx², not d²x²?
    I know everyone writes second derivative like that, but I'm just curious.
    Is that simply because dx² is almost same as d²x²

    • @CepheusMappy
      @CepheusMappy ปีที่แล้ว

      It is the same. I heard that its because it would be messier to write d²x² instead of dx²

    • @isavenewspapers8890
      @isavenewspapers8890 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      d isn't a variable. It means "a tiny change in", so dx means "a tiny change in x". We treat "dx" as a single object, so dx^2 just means dx * dx.

  • @hugoandre96
    @hugoandre96 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you very much, I have been using your series on calculus to help me study for my final. you have helped me better understand some things I didn't understand in class, such as how limits and implicit differentiation

  • @AJ-er9my
    @AJ-er9my 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excited for the main event! Thanks for explaining this

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    @ahmedgaafar5369 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    incredibly amazing as usual.

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  • @Cosine_Wave
    @Cosine_Wave 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    An extra video... nice

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    @vitoriaxavier4233 5 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @existentialchaos8
    @existentialchaos8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I was around 9, I realized that all number patterns have "layers" underneath them. The first layer below it would be how much it increased by each time, the 2nd would be how much the 1st layer increased by each time, and so on. I had this theory that every pattern, if you "peel" the layers enough, it would always reach a layer where all terms would be the same number, and that was the "base layer" that every pattern was made out of (now I know this is true for polynomials functions), and each pattern could be classified by the number of layers it had. For example, for a pattern like 1, 4, 9, 16, etc., it would be a 3rd layer pattern because the layer underneath, or the 2nd layer, is 3, 5, 7, 9, ..., and the layer underneath that, or the 1st layer, is just 2, 2, 2, ...
    I realized I just basically found out the concepts of arithmetic sequences, polynomial degrees, derivatives, and possible Taylor Series.

  • @andreranulfo-dev8607
    @andreranulfo-dev8607 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:31 Just wow! Now I trully understand inflextion point!

  • @topilinkala7651
    @topilinkala7651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For best understanding why the derivative of accleration is called jerk imagine a computer driven lathe. To move the tool to position you want smooth movement so that the tool does not break. If your movements jerk is too much then the movement is not smooth but it's jerky. Another example of jerk is in an amusement park. If you ride the coffe cups the movement of those cups have sudden jerks in them and if you graph the movement function and calculate jerk you find out that jerk is high on those parts of the movement. So the name jerk is a very good description what changing acceleration means.
    Btw. Human's sensory system work well in acceleration and so smooth acceleration does not cause any feelings in itself. For example your inner ear does not react to gravity. A non changing acceleration field does not register. But increase jerk and you inner ear starts to function. That's why amussement park rides use high jerk to cause effect in humans.

  • @prithvishah2618
    @prithvishah2618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel so much
    Thank you so much

  • @aldreivohna.aquino8191
    @aldreivohna.aquino8191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very smooth and concise explanation!

  • @TANUJKUMARPandey9999
    @TANUJKUMARPandey9999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So i was studying the potential energy vs position graphy and there i encountered that second derivative of potential energy will give you the points of stable,unstable and neutral equilibrium. but now one told me how? So i searched the internet and youtube and here the search is end with this video.now i know why.so a heartfull thanks to creator of this video.your helping hand is changing the world in positive way.keep spreading love and knowledge.😊

  • @leanderstephendsouza
    @leanderstephendsouza 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    really loved it especially the jerk part,
    we're really taught this stuff in school

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    @jordiegea7486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so cool. Love them 👌🏻

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    @edmilsonpoliveira2646 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will translate the caption of this video into Portuguese. The video lessons from this channel are very good!!!

  • @Re-nq2uh
    @Re-nq2uh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video ✨
    Thank you so much for it

  • @feicuitadie
    @feicuitadie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3b why no quote at the beginning of this video? I love all those quotes you had in other videos

  • @YourMJK
    @YourMJK 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:10 Does anyone know which type of function that is?

    • @YourMJK
      @YourMJK 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I got it: it's roughly -1/2 * (sin(x)-x)

    • @jackfelag6923
      @jackfelag6923 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you want the official term for it, it's called a sigmoid. That's assuming it approaches horizontal asymptotes when x approaches either negative or positive infinity.
      Some functions that are like it are hyperbolic tangent (tanh(x)), inverse tangent (arctan(x)), and 1/(1+e^-x)

    • @cameronadams4366
      @cameronadams4366 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      -cos(x) + 1? But the derivative of that (which is the velocity) is sin(x) and that's not what the velocity of the car looks like....?

    • @exaltedtoast6898
      @exaltedtoast6898 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been thinking of it as the sigmoid function (e^x)/(e^x+1) and I sometimes multiply that by C where C is just a random constant to make it more visible (I generally use 10)

    • @traso56
      @traso56 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      looks like YourMJKTube was right
      i.imgur.com/vYGIkQm.png

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    @well-being4443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @pratik2583 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome work...!!!

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    @balaportejean7015 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the small pi. Thx bro

  • @Krishna-xn8ss
    @Krishna-xn8ss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man this is so helpful

  • @Hercules003
    @Hercules003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everytime I see your videos I get a lightbulb moment. Suffice to say soon I wil run out of light bulbs to imagine lol. Thanks for the amazing videos.

  • @linazso
    @linazso 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this notation was really strange for me, so thanks for clearing that! :)

  • @parrychoi6350
    @parrychoi6350 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for the next chapter

  • @Александр-л8з3э
    @Александр-л8з3э 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing explanation !!!

  • @jameserayburn
    @jameserayburn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent video.

  • @irlshrek
    @irlshrek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    two videos in one day?! is it christmas already?!

  • @SmithCS
    @SmithCS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We worked with second derivatives all semester but I saw this notation on my calculus final and had no idea what it was.

  • @MikiSiguriči1389
    @MikiSiguriči1389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good man 3blue1brown

  • @BenHeacox
    @BenHeacox 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @ 04:27 The subtitles seem to not align with the audio at this point

  • @ominousscreech4054
    @ominousscreech4054 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So intuitive !

  • @krisbrandenberger544
    @krisbrandenberger544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, Professor Bertrand! So in general, for any Taylor polynomial, the coefficient c_n (the coefficient of x^n) controls the nth derivative of that polynomial evaluated at 0.

  • @devrajyaguru2271
    @devrajyaguru2271 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this great video

  • @liviugheorghisan1130
    @liviugheorghisan1130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the 2nd order derivative is positive, the function's graph "holds watter". If it's negative, it doesn't!

  • @AnastasisGrammenos
    @AnastasisGrammenos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Has it been proven that you can NOT construct a function f(g(x)) witch takes a function g(x) as an input and has g'(x) as an output? And this is done "automatically".
    What I mean by automatically is that when you have a function lets say f(x) = x^2 - 2x
    plugging the value x = 3 gives you automatically the answer 9 - 6 = 3.
    So when i plug g(x) = (e^x) / (log(sin(sqrt(x^2/e^x)))) it will "automatically" give me the derivative as an
    answer.
    or can you?

    • @jeffsamuelson7221
      @jeffsamuelson7221 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Anast Gramm If I am understanding correctly, what you are describing is a more general kind of "function" whose input consists of the sort of functions with which we are more familiar; if that is the case, then the answer is "Absolutely!" In fancy mathematical parlance, the derivative can be regarded as a linear operator on a suitably chosen function space, such as the space of continuously differentiable functions. This operator (read: function of functions) would take something like f(x)=x^2 and return that function's derivative, in this case 2x. Notationally speaking, if we denote the operator by 'T', we may write T(f)=f'. Notice that T takes as input the entire function and not just the values at particular points.
      Function spaces: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_space
      Differential operator: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_operator

    • @franzluggin398
      @franzluggin398 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More practically, every CAS (computer algebra system) that's worth anything can take an expression and a specified variable and compute the derivative. That output would then be g'(x) if the input was considered g(x).
      It's still in terms of x, but every CAS that's worth anything can have a substitution rule like x=3 applied to an expression.

    • @tisajokt7676
      @tisajokt7676 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      f(g,x) = lim(h -> 0+) (g(x+h) - g(x)) / h
      Or
      f(g) = { function(x) = lim(h -> 0+) (g(x+h) - g(x)) / h }
      It's just a matter of notation. Jeff's answer is better tho. :P

    • @eduardogomes4865
      @eduardogomes4865 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By automatically you mean closed-form. And no, you cannot have anything "more closed" than the actual limit definition of derivatives.

    • @AnastasisGrammenos
      @AnastasisGrammenos 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the input! All of you!

  • @artur-rdc
    @artur-rdc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Rip me I watched the footnote after chapter 10 lol

  • @gvarph7212
    @gvarph7212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've first learned derivatives years ago, but I've only just figured out how the (df/dx notation works).
    For some reason, I've always thought that d^2 f / dx^2 was d^2 f / d (x^2) and that just made no sense to me

  • @pratisthatiwari9101
    @pratisthatiwari9101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you😊

  • @ioangauss
    @ioangauss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great for students animations rocks !!!

  • @RetroGamingClashOfClans
    @RetroGamingClashOfClans 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    to push it a little farther 4th derivative of position vs. time is jounce

  • @TheScienceNerdcom
    @TheScienceNerdcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait a minute I am confused.....@1:50, the yellow linear function is referring to df/dx. It has a positive slope. So then he says the second derivative of the function would be 0 at x equals 4, or anywhere for that matter. This is definately wrong(RIGHT???). The second derivative would just be a nice horizontal line like y = 2 or y = 3 , whatever the slope of dy/dx is. Bc the second derivative is the slope of the firsts derivative. The first derivative is a line with a slope of lets say 3(that's about how steep his curve looks, whatever). So the second derivative is undoubatbly y = 3. I think I see the error. If the yellow line he drew actually was meant to represent f(x) (which should have been blue according to Grant's color scheme) , ONLY THEN will the second derivative be zero. Because if we start with a linear function as f(x), the first derivative will be a flat line, and then since the flat line has a derivative of zero, only now will the second derivative be zero.
    The mistake seems a little too obvious for me. Is there something I am missing?

  • @凌嘉徽
    @凌嘉徽 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤Helps a lot,love from China🎉

  • @yaskamuni9900
    @yaskamuni9900 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Press Ctrl + Shift + I
    2. Go to Console tab.
    3. Copy Paste and press enter -
    const derivative = f => nth => x => { if(nth==1) return (f(x+0.0001)-f(x))/0.0001 ; else return (derivative(f)(nth-1)(x+0.0001)(0.0001) - derivative(f)(nth-1)(x)(0.0001))/0.0001 ;}
    4. type and press enter -
    derivative(x=> x*x + x)(2)(1)
    5. Gives you 2nd derivative of x^2 + x at x = 1.

  • @HanakoSeishin
    @HanakoSeishin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why bother mentioning jerk without mentioning why we care about it enough to give it a name? In practice it is because jerk is basically (proportionate to) the rate of change of power of the engine, because the engine takes time to reach maximum power = maximum acceleration, so we need to consider jerk to account for that time.

  • @aarjith2580
    @aarjith2580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *WAIT, Helpp! At **3:18** how did he get that d(df) is proportional to dx squared?*

  • @tehn00bpwn3r
    @tehn00bpwn3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does no one talk about jerk with cars. Surely that is the effect of having higher torque? You can jerk the acceleration more quickly

  • @mukhtaarjaamac8763
    @mukhtaarjaamac8763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Integration by substitution
    Non added but it is chain rule integrated

  • @sheldoniusRex
    @sheldoniusRex 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you forgot snap, crackle, and pop.

  • @jatinbhatt7826
    @jatinbhatt7826 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please upload a video on differential equations and singularities.

  • @TheStarDreamer
    @TheStarDreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    _If Displacement-Time graph of a ball moving, follows the function e^x exactly_
    _Then, that is the most interesting type of motion in this Universe_

  • @Re-nq2uh
    @Re-nq2uh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a question
    I was wondering why is it dx^2? Why did we multiply the two dx?
    And i think it's because we need to divide the d(df) by the change in x that caused it namely dx the first time "and" dx the second, and since we're saying "and" (and "and" refers to multiplication) then we should multiply the two dx. I really want to know if what I'm saying is correct or it's something else that caused this.

    • @isavenewspapers8890
      @isavenewspapers8890 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One way to think about it is to just think of a second derivative as, well, two derivatives. When you take the first derivative, that's df/dx, meaning that you've divided by dx once. Upon taking the second derivative, that's d(df/dx)/dx, so you're dividing by dx a second time. If that's what you mean, then you're right.

  • @GourangaPL
    @GourangaPL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:17 what's the music?

  • @elen1ap
    @elen1ap ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get the function of the distance of the car in terms of time?

  • @nikhilkamble4210
    @nikhilkamble4210 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video👍. Can you make videos on optimization with linear programming?

  • @avijeetjha8774
    @avijeetjha8774 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would anyone plz tell what derivatives greater than degree 2 mean mathematically like 2nd derivatives tells rate of change of slope then what does 3rd or 4th or nth derivative mean.

  • @jitendrapandey1085
    @jitendrapandey1085 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou very much sir

  • @adityashankar5267
    @adityashankar5267 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would it make sense to say that the 2nd derivative of 4 in a function is infinity

    • @pikcube
      @pikcube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really.
      The 2nd derivative measures the speed at which the first derivative changes (which visually corresponds with how quickly the graph is curving). If we think of this in terms of limits, we can visualize what happens as a graph curvature speeds up. We eventually reach a point, as the curvature speed increases and we let the curvature approach infinity, where the graph makes an instantaneous turn, too fast to see the turning process.
      That is the closest a derivative comes to approaching infinity, although graphs in which the slope (and therefore the curvature) changes on a dime are said to be "not differentiable". This means that our approach of taking tiny nudges to see how slope or curvature changes fails to capture any meaningful information. A concrete tiny nudge, no matter how tiny, doesn't give a meaningful approximation of the slope or curvature. Because of this, the derivative or second derivative at these points are said to simply "not exist".
      That being said, that doesn't make the idea of an infinite derivative wrong or bad, math is all about taking these fuzzy ideas and playing with them until they make sense. Mess around with it, try to set up what infinite slope or infinite curvature looks like, and see what it teaches you.

  • @isobar5857
    @isobar5857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3blue1Brown. This always confuses me in the following sense. Why does it necessarily follow that if the second derivative is decreasing it has to be negative ?

    • @isavenewspapers8890
      @isavenewspapers8890 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not true. Maybe you meant that a decreasing first derivative means a negative second derivative, or a decreasing second derivative means a negative third derivative.
      The reason for this is that each subsequent derivative tells you the rate of change of the previous one. That is precisely what the derivative is meant to measure. For example, if you have negative acceleration, such as from slamming on the brakes of a car, that means that your velocity is decreasing.

  • @jackkennedy98
    @jackkennedy98 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    how can the gradient change more around the vertex of a parabola if it's second derivative is constant?

    • @keithplayzstuff2424
      @keithplayzstuff2424 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It was the same large amount all around.

    • @franzluggin398
      @franzluggin398 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He never compares the second derivative at 4 with the second derivative at other points of the same function. He just compares it to the shallower parabola.

    • @nujuat
      @nujuat 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      jackkennedy98 it's large around the vertex... and everywhere else :P Unless it isn't a parabola, and then that just shows that even we use Taylor expansions in our head to approximate curves :P

    • @avijeetjha8774
      @avijeetjha8774 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3bb541 Keith since the 2nd derivative of parabola is constant so it shouldn't change while we move away from its curve but that's not possible since the rate of change of slope is decreasing.plz explain ☺

    • @franzluggin398
      @franzluggin398 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have trouble understanding the question. Are you asking "How is it that the parabola has a very strong bend around its focus (its minimum/maximum) and less farther away from it?". Then the answer is: Because that's two different things. The slope of the tangent of x^2 is 2x. That means the slope increases linearly.
      What you see around the focus point is a very strong change in the _angle_ the tangent has with the x-axis. But the angle is the arctan of the slope, and so the farther out you go, the shallower the change in slope seems when you judge it by how much the angle changes.

  • @MelonMediaMedia
    @MelonMediaMedia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For the weird people who want to know the ones after its in this order
    1)Position
    2)Displacement
    3)Velocity
    4)Acceleration
    5)Jerk
    6)Snap
    7)Crackle
    8)Pop

    • @6funnys
      @6funnys 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not quite... while position and displacement are very much not the same, the shape of the graph is the same but with a possible upward or downward shift, being the initial position. Displacement is change in position, but not in reference to a change in time. Also, you would be better to write position/displacement as 0), as we tend to consider that as our basic function, our f(x). That way, you could label velocity, f'(x), its first derivative, as 1), then acceleration as 2) and so on.

    • @ankeunruh7364
      @ankeunruh7364 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ask Tool to make an album!

  • @ILikeClod
    @ILikeClod หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm 12 and this is very interesting. I didn't get math hw over Thanksgiving break so I was sad and am now learning calculus.

  • @pinkishaw3658
    @pinkishaw3658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please clear between derivative at a point and derivative curve

  • @fsandlksndkasd
    @fsandlksndkasd 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hollyshit TAYLOR SERIES!!!

  • @ghostspyro9382
    @ghostspyro9382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And what about the integral of position in respect to time?

    • @TheOiseau
      @TheOiseau 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does exist. It results in something called _absement_ which measures how far away something is from its initial position & for how long.

  • @anonymoose3423
    @anonymoose3423 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If higher-ordered derivatives are meant to represent the curvature of the graph, how is the second-order derivative of a function at its inflection point zero ? Thanks in advance.

    • @cookieshade197
      @cookieshade197 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because, at the inflection point, the curve is flat (or approches flatness, atleast), and so, the curvature ought to be zero. Make sense?

    • @anonymoose3423
      @anonymoose3423 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      CookieShade Yes. Thanks!

  • @KnakuanaRka
    @KnakuanaRka 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incidentally, multiple derivatives would make more sense if you showed the derivative as another graph, making it easy to show the tangent to that.

  • @haikdin
    @haikdin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please explain one more time what is the meaning of the jerk?

    • @MCPhssthpok
      @MCPhssthpok 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Hayk Dingchyan It's the rate at which the acceleration is changing. For example, if the car starts moving suddenly "with a jerk" the acceleration goes quickly from zero to some significant value so the rate of change of acceleration, the jerk, is high. If the car pulls away smoothly on the other hand, the acceleration changes more slowly so the jerk is smaller.

    • @Jj-kf2lq
      @Jj-kf2lq 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      someone who is mean and that no one likes

    • @haikdin
      @haikdin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the easy explanation :) And what about 4th derivative ? ;)

    • @tisajokt7676
      @tisajokt7676 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The 4th derivative is how quickly how quickly how quickly how quickly your position changes changes changes changes.

    • @haikdin
      @haikdin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :DDDD

  • @biancadragomir
    @biancadragomir 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you