30 MPH Razor E200 E300 Hack With 1000w Controller & 48v Lithium ION Batteries Full How To Make It!!
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In this video I show you how I installed a new throttle and a 48v 1000w controller on my Razor E300 E200 electric scooter, I also hacked Power Tool Drill Batteries and set them up inline to make 2 Kobalt 24v 2amp batteries into 1 48v 4amp battery. This setup will allow you to go super fast up to 30mph depending on your scooter the Razor e300 or Razor e200 and your weight. Thanks for watching.
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is the reason theres no video showing you going 30mph because youre running 1000w through a 250w motor and the motor has since burned out?
The e200 I got for free,, wouldn’t start wouldn’t charge . It was someone else’s piece of junk..now it’s not. This was my first challenge and this video helps me see how far I can take it toward it being a commuter. Thanks
48v. Still same 2amps.
YOU NEED TO JUMPER THE "SPORT" CONNECTOR LIKE THE "LOCK" CONNECTOR. THIS PUTS THE CONTROLLER IN THE "SPORT" (MORE POWER) MODE.
Great video, very thorough..I'm thinking of "Hot Rodding" my E3000, but going with a $99. Kobalt 40-Volt Lithium Ion 350-CFM 100-MPH Cordless Electric Leaf Blower at Lowes. It comes with a charger and battery and I can utilize the Variable Speed Trigger.. Yes, No?
Did you ever do it?
Did it last u a year and that sports wire u can wire it to each other it make it super fast i had same controler on a 1000w
My question is does that handle 48v? Because isn't it a 24v motor and you are essentially doubling the volts and watts.... How long do you think that motor will last before it burns up?
Not long, the most you can do is double the voltage/wattage but it will shorten the life spawn, what he is doing is 4x what that motor is rated...it will burn up
Hey great video, just saying wouldn’t that motor burn out eventually cause you are over volting the 24v motor.
The batterys are 24v batterys. If you wire them a certain way the voltage stays at 24v no matter how many batteries are connected.
@@jcbnorman12
That's not what he's doing though. Its 48v... Not 24v anymore
It's better to replace motor too for safety.
This is my concern as well. There is no way that 24V motor can handle a 48v load for very long. How long did this last?
Nicholas Stewart he has never oiled the chain. He doesn’t care.
No riding videos and he used the stock 24v 250w motor with 48v and a 1000w controller... Guessing that didn't last too long 🤣
No riding video = it didn't work.
So if you have a 24v motor, you need a 24v battery setup ?? How many watts for the controller?
He's also got a lot of videos where he does switch most of the partys put if not all. I think he does it just to show the specific step
I know you said in the video that you not going to make it too far but roughly what distance can you get out of 2 24 volt Kobalt battery on that upgrade
I did this same modification about the same time to an E300, but i used 18V dewalt batteries, and USB charging adapters, same throttle, and same controller, but i also upgraded sprockets and chain. Sourced the bits from aliexpress and ebay. Motor ran fine at 36V for ages, but 2.0ah batteries just don't last long enough to use the scooter to commute with. Sold the E300 with the mods, but got given another E300 for free not long after. I bought a Xiaomi M365 for last mile commute each day, but still think the E300 was a lot more stable and am considering building an E300 with outrunner motor and big batteries.
So no issues running 36 volts with the stock razor controller? How many amps were the batteries? I was thinking of building a 10s3p lithium pack with 2900maH batteries to form a 36volt 8.7aH battery...
@@martinstolzenberg2456 I was using a 36v 1000w controller from aliexpress. Have sold the second e300 now, and am converting a goped bigfoot petrol scooter, looking to use dualtron hub motor/s.
🎉 that's the real thing 🎉
Can I contact you for local repair shop to upgrade my two razors?
How long did this scooter last?
Can you upgrade the power core e90? I am new to scooters nice video
Seems like alot more work then it has to be, but hey. If you want to save money on batteries you have to compensate somewhere
Just wondering, at 13:01 the red and black wires appear to be reversed at the connection, is this correct? Is that for the charging port?
Most helpful instructional video. Thank you.
Can I use 20v Hercules battery?
I know it's a bit trivial but you keep referring to the batteries as inline, but dont you mean in series or in parallel. In series ups the volts and follows the positive to negative connections while in parallel connects negative to negative and positive to positive and ups the amp hours
He did them in series
he used white wires for both + and - which is a bit confusing, but in-line or in-series was not confusing to me.
About the batteries. When you say "in line" what you mean is "in series".
Yes sir
No
look at a basic electricity video first. khan academy or something.
What does "inline" mean to you? you got all the basics wrong here it's in series and if you add the volts amps stay the same and if you add amps (parallel) the voltage stays the same can't do both! and a major issue for me is a proper charger to charge 48vdc @ 2Ah...... as each battery pack has its own bms that includes a current shunting circuit and yes the motor would get very hot because the windings are too thick prob not enough of them for the higher voltage. A hub motor would be better or at least a 48v replacement motor any info is appreciated cheers.
Awesome video bud, very helpful, I have a question, on full charge and full throttle what’s the max distance or max amount of time you can get out of your modded e200
Who can I get to troubleshoot my scooters and repair them?
i have a question.. if i do this but half of what is used in the video: 500w 24v controller : 450w dc 24v brushed 5.5a motor : would it work
Yes either scenario would work. You don't get as much torque with 24V batteries and a 500w controller but overall speed should remain the same as that's dictated by the motor RPMs and tire size. So it just makes it harder to go up hills. Now changing out the motor will change the speed and torque, depends on the specs for your motor.
Sir plz razor e90 conward e200 asambal motar batri air tair. Explen video sir plz
Is it always black to black red to red when connecting the wires?
Is there a reason you're not routing the power through the switch and using it or were you just being lazy? This is a serious question. It might sound like a criticism, but it's not. I'm planning to do something similar and you're the third person I've seen who bypassed the switch and I'm trying to figure out why. It seems like it'd be a simple matter to just use it rather than having to pull the deck off and disconnect the batteries every time you're done riding so I'm wondering if I'm missing something.
Switch can't handle that kind of power
I 2nd that the little switch can't handle the power I didn't understand it 1st didn't think yeah didn't think that switch had to pull that amount of power Is through it that was the whole point of the motor controller it had stumped me for a few minutes at 1st. Bypassed at 1rst then got a better switch later on.
Fun fact: if you happen to have an air compressor and have the air nozzle attachment and wedge the tip of the nozzle under the grip as you blast, it will easily remove the handlebar grips.
The stock motor on a Razor E300 is the MY1016 (by Unite Motor Company).
Rated at 24 V, for 250 W (which at 24 V is ~10 A)
Dumping 48 V, and current of up to (1000 W / 48 V ~= 20 A) will fry the thing in no time.
I guess the output of those tool LiPo packs might be below 20 A, so maybe that would be your limiting, and possibly protecting factor.
Still, that motor is gonna release its smoke right quick.
Better to burn out than to fade away.
Does it actually work
Whats the ah on that battery and how long you can ride from
Great video. I have the same setup that I'm trying to connect.
You didn't show us how you wire the yellow and blue from the throttle ignition. Should I just connect those to the power lock?
Thanks for the great video
The stock motor won't handle it
He didn’t ask if the stock motor would handle it.
@@owenherlihy
Thanks captain obvious 🤓 I was trying to warn him that the stock motor won't be able to handle it and burn up.
Wait but wouldn’t it be 48v 2.0 ah not 4.0
Amp hour?
How long the motor last,?
how long does the charge last?
48 2 amp
Do we have to replace the throttle
Yes, the factory throttle is a On/Off switch. You most definitely need a phased throttle so your options arent off or Wide Open Throttle.
I don't believe he hit 30 mph. I got direct 36 volts too mine I top out at 20 mph and now I think I burnt it up
I built a similar mod. Thanks for the video. Very in depth and helpful.
I'm having an issue and looking for help if anyone has an idea what's going on.
I have basically the same mod as the video, my batteries are 2x DeWalt 20v 4a. 1000w controller. The motor runs off the ground. But under load it is very slow. I was wondering if it's a low voltage cutoff?
If it's a 48 volt controller you are not giving it enough voltage....
@@martinstolzenberg2456 Thank you!
Poor connections. Is the wiring heating up?
Hey Eric - I am trying to do the same thing. Mine doesn't work at all. Were you able to do something to get it going?
@@roballaer381 Hi Rob! Not enough voltage from the batteries to the controller. I can't remember which I did - smaller controller or larger batteries
What part controls what in an electric scooter?
that silver little box
God don't tell me you're using the same motor that came with it
*Damn I found a pink 100 and I ran to TH-cam and seen this and my eyes went 👀lol*
As the comments have already stated, running 48v into a stock 24v motor is a recipe for a fire. Hopefully young people do not try this.
better option would be to get 2 4 cell lipo packs with 60c rating at 6500 mah
NO STUPID, THAT WOULD ONLY BE 33.6 VOLTS, THE CONTROLLER WOULD CUT RIGHT AWAY THINKING THE BATTERIES ARE DEAD, HE HAS A TOTAL OF 50.4 VOLTS WHICH IS WAY BETTER, AND THE CONTROLLER CAN HANDLE UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 63 VOLTS WITH LEAD ACID BATTERIES WHICH CAN ONLY REACH MAX OF 60 VOLTS FOR (4) OF THEM BUT THEY HAVE A BIG SAG VOLTAGE.
@@TechKnowCSS bro tf type of crack are you taking
@@bunnyhop832 I HAVE USED THOSE CONTROLLERS AND KNOW HOW THEY WORK AND TOOK THEM APART AND KNOW THE CAPACITOR VALUES INSIDE THE CONTROLLER WHICH LIMIT THEIR MAX VOLTAGE, IE 63 VOLTS, ALSO I CAN ADD BATTERY CELLS AT 4.2 VOLTS PER CELL AND 8 CELLS IS 33.6 VOLTS. AND THE LOW CUT OUT FOR THAT CONTROLLER IS ABOUT 41 VOLTS. PUT ALL THAT INFORMATION IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT.
Pretty sure it's still 2Amp
48v - NOT 4A .... wtf ru talking about?
so the razor scooter is over 150 and maybe another 150? You could get a better scooter for that price lol
Cheaper to just buy a battery pack for like $100
I use a 48v 6amp segway battery and it's alot faster
How long does it last?
250W motor is not borning ?
I built the thing it doesn’t even last 5 Minutes on low speed
Yea I was thinking those 2AH batteries were a poor choice.. They make 3, 4, 5, even 6AH batteries. I would try a pair of the bigger ones (if you could get them to fit in the housing) hooked in parallel to make them last longer and give less stress on the motor, but you would probably still get a higher speed from the added Amps capacity...
@@plupkination The motors arnt the same in E200 ( 200watt) E 300 ( 350 watt)..The 350watt can handle 36v ( I have different razor.i got for free)
I also have a schwin 350 watt ( free)
I also have a the razor drifter ..it use the 350 watt...Ive ran it on 36v. ..it fine ( if your not too heavy) 12-15 mph ...due to gearing..but plenty fun to drive.
3-ea lead 12 AH lead acid ( 7-8 miles range) that's 12000 mah compare to
2000 mah.lmao
The 48v will FRY that 200watt or 350watt motor.lol
I go an MX500 for $20..it has 500 watt 36V.. I could bump it to 48 v
but I also have 1000watt 48V ( $60)
I also pull a D.C. 2.6-2.8 Hp at 1980 watt ( 2000watt @ 96V..lmao)
8000 rmp
from a TREADMILL ( I got for FREE...Found on side of curb.lmao)
I can run 48V at 1000watt at 3500-4000 rpm there about.
Gear it accordingly for a KIDS's size go kart. (15-20mph)
You;re going to need 3000-5000watt BRUSLESS for an adult
72-96V or wazooo of AMPS on 48V... to get it do 30 mph.lmao
You'll get 30 Kmph..( 15 mhp...or NOT 30 mph..lmao)
on that little motor...
maybe 20 mph on a 48V 1000watt motor...if you're lucky...
Not just 5 mins runs...but actual 1 hour driving time.
batteries are Heavy
and They ALSO GET HOT....No matter what you use.
USE THICK 4-8 awg flame proof wires ( jacket)
48V is a lot of voltage...just saying.
The batteries on electric wheelchairs are 37ah....37000mah
( 12-15 mile range...depends who's driving)
OneEye Monster so I just found a trash picked razor E175. The batts are dead but the motor and everything else is fine.. what new batts would you recommend to give it a little more speed and riding time?
@@plupkination if you have 24V cordless ( lion) drill batteries 5-6ah...already. That's the cheapest or a charger and 2-ea will cost $100. You can fit 2-ea in the battery bay..or always have one or the charger
or I used ride an e100 on 6s Lipo 50C 5000 ( $25-$30-ea) $30 for lipo charger with transformer. You can fit 4-ea in the battery bay...but its the charging time if you dont have enough chargers. ( $100-$125) either way..if dont have those eq already. The lipo will have more power than the lion....However.if you choose 24v lion...you can also use them
in Powerwheels ( you can get cheap on F,B, market..i have over 10-ea powerwheels $15-$50) My grand kids loves it. ( You cant use 24v Lipo
on powerwheels. it's too much amps..but 24v or 6s lion are fine)
For the older kids...I'll basically take parts from the razor and mount it
on the powerwheels ( 350 watt to each wheel) 24V..12-15 mph..with breaks...The motors from e100-175 and chain drive will work too.
It'll basically eliminate the plastic gearbox 10-12 mph is plenty fast
for powerwheels.
@@plupkination 4ah kobalt 24v batteries fit
all show but no go
Watch my video then you’ll see “go”
jesus, no follow up/test video? thumbs down...what a wasted effort.
worst scooter comparing with the scooter that i will buy
I feel like this is way too complicated and if you’re spending already that much money might as well buy a high end scooter that goes 30mph stock