His anger was justified, for sure, but production had to make sure that he wasn't in the same physical location as Issac because of their fear of Jacob assaulting Issac -- and they've facilitated a _lot_ of "almost came to blows" meet-ups before. This doesn't make Jacob an evil person, but it _does_ mean that he should probably find someone who specializes in emotional regulation for men, who bills on a sliding scale, and do some therapy to work on his emotional processing and control. It wouldn't be good to judge him too harshly for his displays of anger, but it also wouldn't be good to support him as justified in his anger and accept his behavior because it stems from a traumatic background all the way to jail, you know? It's not something that will change on its own, and he's going to have plenty of opportunities in life for someone to say the wrong thing, or disrespect or betray him; I want him to be equipped to handle those things in a healthy way, instead of lashing out physically.
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045understandable but realistically he’s a kid, and acted like one, then when you add trauma to that it immediately takes it to a completely different level. He’s a kid trying to navigate himself through real life situations with no type of guidance in any way. I think his reactions were justified.
@jacksyoutubechannel4045 he's a teenager living through trauma without a support system and as a result doesn't have the capacity to tap into those executive functions that are either taught or learned with time (or medical assistance in some cases), you're doing way too much with these haughty & elitist expectations
@iadesigns That guy definitely has issues. It's understandable for him to be angry, but his reaction was excessive. Especially him not being able to control himself in any capacity even amongst other people. He definitely needs mental health assistance to give him tools to work on his uncontrollable emotions moving forward.
The 50-60 something lady who used her adult daughters nudes, -the daughter took those pictures as a minor, to catfish minors was also a predator! Shes basically using her daughters cp to lure other kids! and the girl who was "Shayna" who catfished a child for 8 years, they really shouldve elaborated on the predators being predators a lot more!
That episode with that mom that did that with daughter’s pictures will continue to haunt me. I can’t believe she didn’t get into serious trouble for that
My hubby & I love the show & we’re really disappointed when Max left but Kamie is a great permanent fixture. At first we kinda hated anyone who wasn’t Max that co hosted but when Kamie came around we started liking her very quickly, she is a perfect fit. We still miss Max but now we’d be really upset if Kamie left lol
I'm surprised people were calling his anger a red flag. With his backstory being disclosed I understood exactly how he felt. It's frustrating when it feels like everything is going wrong for you. Just constantly betrayals and let down. That'd be overwhelming, especially when putting your heart in a basket. Seeing him being comforted was amazing. I also understand you calling it exploitative. I agree with that, but at the same time I'm glad Issax was exposed for not just being a catfish, but a predator. I think maybe if they cut out more of Jacob's vulnerable moments, it'd feel more tasteful, but all in all, I agree.
You're so right. He seems like a good kid, but even looking at him, there seems to be a lot of anger, hurt, maybe trauma. Some people aren't as compassionate or understanding. They just believe what they see & hear from TV/social media..
I think people who have had a hard time in life they do deserve his cynical and angry behaviour sometimes. Angry is a natural human emotion we have to stop shaming. As long as no one is physically hurt it’s okay.
A person can only take so much before completely breaking down. It’s a moment of despair where you feel like you’re at rock bottom. This poor guy is probably so exhausted.
They’re not taking his age and vulnerabilities into account. Mentally ill people have red flags. It doesn’t mean his behavior was abnormal for the situation or that it wasn’t justified. Disappointed people tried to paint him as a potential abuser when he’s really just a kid still
agreed! Isaac needs to get his ass beat by an angry father or some old gnarly dude with old man strength, not by one of these young kids. he needs to get punched by someone who can bail themselves out of jail. these kids have been through enough, they don't need an assault charge on top of everything. 100% predator. This is nothing but kindness compared to what he would receive in prison, and at this rate he will be there soon.
I hate when people say “but their an adult” yes legally but they’re still an immature adolescent. That’s not a bad thing, it’s only an issue when predators are preying on them like you’re not immediately an adult overnight no matter how “mature” you are
Couple years back, at 29, I was interested in a chic for a couple weeks, month or so. Found out she was actually 19...I felt like an absolute pedo. I was her age with a 36 and 38 year olold. Now that it's flipped, absolutely NOT
That rage inside of Jacob is just years of pain pent up... He just needs some friends and love. I applaud him for even being able to express his true emotions, because his anger was valid. Im praying for him.
As though life isn't rough enough for a foster kid. Having to move around so much had to affect his relationships and friendships. He just wants to be loved. All humans need that
It's so disgusting to go after young men that he *knows* will never be interested in him back. It still would be disgusting to go after young gay men, but this guy is on a whole other level. Making them trust him and talking to them for months on end, is so fucked up and I feel sorry for every guy he has done this to.
THIS!!!! It's just so predatory on so many levels. The emotional manipulation and mind games going on are just despicable. He likely has so many victims and continues to be a horrible person. You said it best, it is disgusting.
I feel like the secondary perk of his behavior (beside attention) is pride from seeing a cute young man mentally derail on the spot, after finding out they’re conversing and flirting with an old gay man. He seemed way too entertained/proud of himself in this encounter. Yuck
If Kami ever leaves I’m never watching again. we need her. There was one time where Nev was like “we know how medical professionals treat women” and she interjected to emphasize the point and said “BLACK women” love that queen omg
As someone who aged out of the system, i feel his PAIN. That is what it looks like when you finally let down your wall and let someone in that breaks you more then you were before. My heart goes out to this kid.
Jacob is 18! Still a child. His emotional development hasn't fully even started, compound that with a tough life, and his reaction is very realistic. My nephew was the same at that age. This Isaac should be in some watch list imo
@@spam4656 18 is considered legally an adult, jus the age! not even in every country! so it depends on how u feel and identify as... becuz ure still a fcking child, a teenager!!! and jus cuz the clock hits 12am doesn't magically make u an adult lmao u jus were a underage minor for a split second ago or minutes/months lol u have more responsibilites yes but sum lil kids have those responsibilites from such a yung age cuz of the houshold/financially unstable/abuse/neglect/foster care idk...
@@spam4656because people think being legally an adult means that you are..Being an adult is more than just age, its mindset as well, i know plenty of adults who are childish and 30 same way an 18 year old can be childish or “mature for their age”
The fact that people are saying this young traumatised dude deserved to have his hopes and dreams crushed because he got mad really says a lot about them as people. Poor kid. ☹
@@abirdgang They act like they wouldn't be do the same if this happened to them. He was lied to and the guy was trying to confuse him on his sexuality. I'd be furious if that happened to me
i mean.. boys that dont learn to regulate their anger usually become domestic abusers.. yeah its sad what happened but we do give pdf files an excuse when they were abused, why ignore this kids clear red flags
This "girl" was essentially one of the last people he had to hold onto. He's been betrayed & abandoned by every last person he's loved, so when he found out he's been played by this person his devastation comes out & presents as anger. That's why he breaks down crying shortly after. It's sickening to know that people out there can cause this type of heartache for their own selfish reasons. It definitely gives psychopath or sociopath behavior. Ugh my heart aches for this dude 😔
My mom abused me for years then kicked me out at 18, saying I was an adult even though she did NOTHING to actually help shape me into a functioning adult. I’m 32 now, and I have a 12 year old son….Jacob’s anger is totally justified and makes 1000% sense. I STILL struggle with anger because of all the severe trauma I went through, even to this day…I hope he finds peace and love always ❤
I feel you. I understand. It takes decades to heal and unravel all that trauma. Then it becomes an added barrier to be the best mother you can be to end generational trauma.
Hey, I hope you find that too!!!! You deserve healing and healthy happiness as does he and any one of us who was broken down relentlessly as an innocent kid! I’ve been in the same spot with trauma and motherhood. You got this babe!
Question is though were you a teenager who knew everything about anything and just didn’t want to listen so your mom just put up her hands and said “you know what if you don’t want to listen then you’re on your own since you know everything about anything” and so she let you find your own way cause you already know everything I always wonder what really is behind the full story when people post their comments do they intentionally leave out certain parts I honestly don’t want to hear it
“You have an ugly soul” says the man who uses people’s trauma and vulnerability to manipulate them💀 Kamie has done nothing but continue to stick up for the catfished and give them a real reality check. I loved when Max was on the show bc he called out their bs too, but I LOVE Kamie for it bc she’s brutally honest and stands her ground
Don’t really watch catfish and not sure how this popped up for me, but I’m glad it did. Your story-telling was great, loved the commentary, and you seem like a really cool person!
Yo, same for me! I don't watch catfish, and I've never seen these vids before. But after this, my fifth video of watching this woman, this miracle of entertaining delivery, I'm hooked. Subscribed and bell!!
I love Nev and Kami’s energy I’m glad they had this opportunity to intervene in this young man’s life when he needed an angel. I hope the negative stuff on social didn’t set him back Issac needs arrested
I am 100% proud of that young man for expressing his anger safely and as respectfully as he could. As he grows, he will get better at coping and expressing it. For now, leaving the room (getting away from people: respect) and yelling (not breaking things: control) was perfect.
His anger was completely justified and while its clear hes had NO support system to help him learn emotional regulation, he has enough control to remove himself from the room where Nev and Kami were because he wasn't upset with them.
He’s a beautiful kid.. I hope he finds someone with good intentions but it’s usually a predator that snaps these lost people up.. it’s so unbelievably sad..
To your last question - it's definitely exploitative but in this situation I think it ultimately was for the better for Jacob because without the show who knows how long he would have been emotionally strung along, and what kind of reaction he would have had when he did eventually find out without a team of people emotionally discussing it with him. While the show definitely benefits from the drama, Nev and Kamie seem like they are genuinely concerned for and want to help him process his pain. If he had to confront that alone I think it would have hurt him much much more.
Nev and Kami really went full on protective parent mode with Jacob and I loved seeing it. They gave him a safe space to express his emotions and protected him from this predator that didn’t need to be in contact with him.
8:34 you just gained a new sub. Your empathy is showing. Thank you speaking up and speaking facts. If you aren’t taught how to properly regulate your emotions, faulting him for trying to do so will just perpetuate the cycle for both involved.
I'm glad that they didn't let Jacob and Issac meet. It could have gone really badly, physically or otherwise. It's so said that Jacob was preyed, vulnerable as he already was. I hope he finds someone who isn't going to catfish or manipulate him
While he does have issues with anger it definitely stems from his upbringing. He seems like he handles it the best he can too- he removed himself from the room they were in and expressed his anger by himself
This!!! For someone so young, talking that step of removing yourself from such a triggering situation, to deal with his anger by himself rather than hurt others is so much more mature than some men I’ve seen on the internet who have more life experience.
Jacob's expression is actaully healthy...even in therapy, some anger-releasing techniques include screaming and breaking/punching things...the fact that he has the ability to feel anger building up in him and has the mind to get up and go into another room, away from other people, to 'blow up' or release anger is actually a good self-regulation skill that requires self-awareness and self-discipline. But society prefers people to bottle things up because publicly expressing anger is seen as socially unacceptable. I love that you described his 'anger' as frustration and pain because that's what it truly is.
His anger is absolutely justified. His entire life has been moving across the country and being in foster care, being moved from family to family and place to place. If he opens up to one foster family, he'd just end up leaving again. Being in the foster system doesn't guarantee stability for the child. This can be traumatic for children. So when a kid gets out and grows up and finally chooses to trust someone, just for them to exploit their trauma and lie to them about everything- YEAH that person is going to break down and scream and cry. Jacob, we are wishing you the best
My heart just broke for that kid. I have a son the same age. I would take him in any day. Poor kid. 😢 With saying all this, Mama, I just found your channel. This is my first video of yours I'm watching...gurl, I instantly subbed. I finally found someone as "quick whitted" as I am. You got a new fan. To you, & everyone reading this, have a blessed day. ❤
I understand how it was exploitative but I feel like Jacob needed it. Especially with Nev and Kami comforting him and walking him through finding the truth like the adults that he deserved
You narrate videos sooo good girl! I clicked this thinking it was the actual catfish episode and stuck around because you are straight to the point I love it!! Thanks
love how you broke down this episode! i empathize with jacob so much and thanks for painting him in a light that shows he’s HUMAN not a monster because mtv definitely.
I remember watching this episode when it aired and feeling SO DIGUSTED for this young man. I felt so terrible for him and this was probably the only episode I've ever cried over. I agree that a lot of personal moments shouldnt have been included but, im glad they were there for this young man because he seemed to need some other strong people in this moment and i fear what wouldve happened if he was alone. Poor kid just wants a break and to be loved 🥺 As for Isaac. He is DISGUSTING and a COMPLETE predator. To prey on the vulnerability of freshly turned 18 year old? He needs to be investigated because i have a hard time believeing he didnt reach below 18 😠
I understand what Jacob went through, I was also homeless at 18 with an abusive mother. It's rough when you don't know how to express yourself and have no where and no one to turn to. It takes a long time to break those walls down after a betrayal. There wasn't as much social media access in my day. I had no access. But I did have a short fling with a 52 year old woman, she was pretty and nice. His and my story is kinda similar. I am glad he is OK and wish him nothing but the best.
The scariest part to me is the fact that this struggling, aching, kid with no home or place to permanently stay would have been in a really scary position. I have no doubt Isaac would have tried to give him a place to stay or offer him some kind of aid that a struggling kid would find hard to turn town. He’s not safe for young people to be around. AT ALL
I think it was actually good to show this episode so that people could see that theres people like Isaac who prey on young boys who are struggling in life. PREDATORS like issac are sick and gross and need to be exposed!
So glad Jacob was able to make a complete win here ❤️❤️❤️ being Catfished by a 40 year old gay man pretending to be a young girl is like an actual nightmare , or you know any 40 year old pretending to be like 20 online 💀 🤮
You are so well spoken. I was one of the people that thought his behavior was scary but I totally agree with everything you said and hadn’t thought of it that way. Thanks for this new perspective
this is honestly one of the most disturbing Catfish eps from a safeguarding perspective - it’s genuinely concerning that this middle-aged man was taking to somebody under the age of 18, especially because there seems to be evidence that he has pictures of Jacob shirtless? like, what else did he exploit Jacob into sending him? that would be a literal crime. it also makes me wonder who else he’s talking to, because he has absolutely no qualms with Jacob’s age so there’s nothing stopping him from doing it to somebody of a similar age or younger. if it wasn’t so threatening, the boldness it takes to openly advertise yourself on international television as a potential child sex offender is almost admirable. prison, honey.
If he turned 18 very recently, and perhaps living in foster care, it's de rigeur to ask kids to move out at 18. Foster parents' responsibility ends when the kids turns 18, and if a deeper relationship between Jacob and his fosters hasn't developed (which seems possible with his trust issues surrounding parents) then it increases the chances of Jacob having to figure stuff out at 18. And my opinion is Jacob at least had the idea that the show would get him to Isaac/Staph Infection The Clown. And from what it sounds like, the clown may have known Jacob was about to be homeless and that's when they started talking about getting married. Otherwise, there was a chance that Jacob could lose Internet and/or phone access without any compelling reason to make that a financial priority. Thinking this only makes me feel dirtier about the episode in general. In terms of it happening within the same season, those episodes could have been shot a year apart for what we know. Shows like this require editing that helps whatever narrative they're telling, and that takes time. Some "reality shows" are heavily produced and Catfish spanning different parts of the country, sometimes in the same episode, makes it hard to suspend my disbelief that they meet the catfished and the next day they have air tickets to wherever. It takes a little more planning than that, much less to know that the catfisher will be home and allow a camera team to set up in their house. The Catfishers house is always immaculate. We rarely get to see the catfisher's computer set up, which one would figure would be very interesting to the viewer. There's a lot to unpack when you peek behind the curtain.
Isaac had no plans on marrying him. He's done this before. He goes after young people just to exploit them then finds another victim. Like those p3dos who find another victim after their current ones aged out. Having Jacob trapped in that demon's house would have led to a lot of horror for him. That demon would have used Jacob like a traffic victim then thrown him out like his mom and the system did. Also, I wouldn't care about the computer set up. Especially when you can do the same catfishing crap on your phone, as most do.
I absolutely enjoyed your breakdown of this episode. You're absolutely right about the catfish being a predator. The way you explained the episode made me feel like I had actually watched it. Thank you for this amazing review. New sub here!
This is sad how that guy has spent so much time grooming this hurt young man and expected to convince him he was gay. People don't just have a light switch to decide if they are gay or not this young man was very valid in his emotions and his past. More charges should be done on the 40+ year old that is very serious about doing this to these young people and some mental health or charges should be happening. This is not a safe situation and I do like how they worked with Jakob working through his emotions and validation of the hurt and manipulation he has been going through. I'm kinda glad that did show this episode showing they vulnerability and how it's ok to feel anger and other emotions without fully acting on them and working through them.
YES JACOB!!!!! Stay strong man!! YOU can make it and you seem like a genuinely good dude. Work on yourself and your people will gravitate towards you. In a year or two you’ll look back and be so proud of how far you’ve come. Keep on keepin on 💪❤️
Jacob's reaction to an incredibly bizarre situation after everything he's been through in life is completely understandable and valid. Sometimes bottled up emotions come out in an explosive flood but it doesn't always mean a person is going to be dangerous. Jacob has been through more pain and frustration at only 18 than most of us will experience in a whole lifetime. With time, therapy, friends and love, I think he'll be fine. I think his time with Neve and Cammie did him good. It might have been the first time he felt genuinely cared about. I agree, this episode should not have aired. He deserves privacy while he heals. Also, Isaac needs to be on some kind of watch. He's clearly a groomer.
It is sickening how they discussed that young man. He’s a kid with no home, no hope, no support. The little sliver of hope he had was a lie. His anger is valid and lots of trauma is underneath it.
I'm so happy that Jacob is doing better, but this predator needs to be stopped. Psychological sabotage in the hopes of getting an emotional connection is straight up evil. There's no other way to put it
I feel so bad for Jacob 😢 I was homeless in my younger years too and life is so hard when you have no support system. He is also having a meltdown because his life has been so freaking hard. Man this sucks.
Girl you DESERVE more followers. I LOVE this content and I’m so mad I didn’t find you sooner! I feel for Jacob I really do and I hope he gets the hell and love he deserves ❤
Ugh I relate so much to poor, sweet Jacob because that life and that age was me a long time ago. I am so glad Kamie and Nev could be genuinely kind and helpful to him.
Jacob's mom putting him into care was probably for the best, and it really wasn't about 'not wanting to figure things out'. For a lot of vets, especially female vets, and people with similar long-term, compounded, or repeated trauma, the PTSD can be debilitating. I've worked with patients who physically couldn't take care of themselves bc of their mental status, couldn't remember to eat or take meds or bathe, couldn't regulate sleep or other natural body rhythm. It's so far past the choice of whether or not to 'figure it out'.
When I was 18, my emotions were even worse than him. My anger was constant! So I felt for him, a lot. So for people to say "red flag" when he hasnt had a stable home for the majority of his life, they dont think further than themselves. I hope Jacob is doing okay now!
Did I miss something. Was he crashing film equipment or hitting people? Yelling in a bathroom IS regulating. It is a healthy reaction to move those emotions. Does this generation see any range of emotion as a red flag? I am confused. Edit to add: I don't mean this generation in a condescending way. I truly don't know exactly what young people are taught is socially acceptable forms of expression for intense emotion. Is it all supposed to be sublimated into external things like music or causes or sport?
🌋🤬The episide SHOULD NOT have been aired. The guy IS a predator. It could have been even anonymouly. I hope that the show reported this guy to local police. There has to be a LOT more to this. Potential minors should not be on this show and it is predatory too. The boy could have gone down a very dangerous path in the WORST WAY.. We know this has happened before after reality show 'reveals'.
@@brennathecatlover4360you are correct, there’s no law saying “if he’s 18 and he’s 40 you’ll get arrested” have these “lived under the rock” people not been on a dating site and seen many 18 year olds looking for someone much older than them I bet the person who wrote the original comment would have an emotional meltdown if they went on Snapchat since there’s a lot of 18 year olds looking for someone much older And he goes on to say “Potential minors should not be on this show” I’m guessing he’s probably hasn’t watched any of the other seasons since basically the show does cover 18 year old getting themselves hooked, line and sinker then maybe these 18 year olds shouldn’t be looking for love on any app (just find someone out in their city who’s a hot mess as well) cause they have know someone is going to use their weaknesses and emotions against them (it’s the oldest trick in the book) any catfish can see that hell any manipulative person can see that (ask any girl who dated a bad boy, bad boys will easily manipulate them)
I love how compassionate you are!! Most people online are very ~empath~ ~therapy talk~ when in reality those people are highly toxic and love to throw around buzzwords like red flag when they're the red flag lol. Anyways love this video!!! Subbed!
Jacob’s show of emotion was not a red flag in the least. What we saw was a young man who has had a very difficult start in life and who normally would not show vulnerability or trust to a person but did so, against his better judgement, and was horribly screwed over in the process. That emotion he showed was not just anger. There was extreme hurt, confusion, embarrassment, frustration, disappointment…and many other emotions. Jacob was experiencing all that turmoil simultaneously, in front of strangers AND with cameras in his face. He walked away from everyone, likely to take a few moments to himself to calm down and get his head together and he was followed. He did not show us “red flag” behavior. He showed us that he is human. And I wish more of the viewing public could show an ounce of humanity towards him rather than condemning him for a seemingly normal reaction to circumstances most of us may never experience.
I'm pretty sure if the hosts and producers sense any kind of potential violence they have the responsibility to ensure it does not happen. Giant liability from so many angles if they ended up enabling an assault.
It gets me mad people saying Jacob’s anger isn’t justified. That boy has never had trust or love in his life and nobody to teach him how to deal with big emotions. He’s is absolutely justified in his actions. He needs LOVE and support.
The first time I saw this episode I felt stressed out, and I didn't know how to put it into words. I knew a lot of other viewers would see his rage as displaced instead of factoring in all these things, the fact he was being groomed by man in his 40s. I think an important episode although difficult topic would be season 8 episode 32. Paul & Caitea.
It’s a very normal reaction to finding out you’re being catfished. It was downright mature and well spoken from the clips we saw and speaking through it. Grooming and lying and betrayal, pretty normal to be angry and defensive in that situation.
@@alishac5096 Sorry, I don’t feel I explained myself well. As someone with borderline personality disorder and struggles with emotional regulation. I sympathized with Jacob, I know how it feels when you can’t regulate your emotions during a traumatic and stressful event, and his reaction is a 1000% justified. I was referring to how it would look to others on the outside who don’t have the emotional maturity to understand how complex what he is faced with in this episode. And I knew a lot of viewers would just see his anger and not how it is justified or understand how hard it can be to regulate emotions during events like that, but especially when like me and him. You’ve never been shown how to or been helped to find better ways to regulate. My fear was people would see his rage and nothing else. Which I feel was expressed well in this video, seeing as how some viewers reacted to his rage versus the grown man who had been grooming him. And is likely grooming others.
@@Samantha-zx8ht I’m so glad to see this being openly acknowledged, so many people are marginalized by their trauma symptoms. This kind of predatory behavior and ignorance of the community has to end. I’m happy you responded, I agreed so much with your initial comment I felt it warranted further discourse, I’m sorry if I didn’t make it clear my response wasn’t aimed at you but more of a continuation of your original comment 💜
I feel him, I am him. I have 3 children and I’ve learned that my anger is a way to mask my pain. I’m hurt I grew up by myself. I was a nomad. Now as an adult I can maneuver through life but it’s my emotions that are the problem I learned to walk away do it in private. It’s life long pain.
My favorite line of yours..... He looks like the thing you would see when you have sleep paralysis!!!! That is a gem!!!...... And you're not wrong !!!!!
As sad as it is to watch his hurt…. In the long run, him getting to tell his story and be seen may help him in the long run. Maybe this show will change his life for the better .
8:45 I think it’s pretty obvious that Jacob is vulnerable to mental health issues, and I do find it sad that he was exploited. It’s disappointing the viewers thought his anger was a red flag. This episode feels sorta dirty to watch (not that most catfish episodes aren’t)..
I worked with kids in care and a lot don't have a lot of emotional regulation skills, so seeing jacob made me sad. I'm glad Jacob trusted them enough to comfort him and didn't exploit his natural reaction. Its also crazy that issax got dolled up because he thought he'd make a "moment" out of Jacob's discomfort, hurt feelings. Then he tried to manipulate the situation to get to meet jacob in person just make an another chance to create that viral moment
You said Spokane right the second time Spo-can lol I agree Issac is a predator. I can believe people thought Jacob's anger was too much like it was completely valid 🙃
The fact that this man literally knew this poor boys trauma and history and fed off it is horrific and just straight up evil.
That’s typically how evil people move..
Seriously this mf psychological harm
Hurt people hurt people
Was thinking the same thing
Not to mention there's potential on him grooming him and other dudes.
I agree with you about Jacobs emotions. He had no stability in his life, his anger was 100000% JUSTIFIED
His anger was justified, for sure, but production had to make sure that he wasn't in the same physical location as Issac because of their fear of Jacob assaulting Issac -- and they've facilitated a _lot_ of "almost came to blows" meet-ups before. This doesn't make Jacob an evil person, but it _does_ mean that he should probably find someone who specializes in emotional regulation for men, who bills on a sliding scale, and do some therapy to work on his emotional processing and control.
It wouldn't be good to judge him too harshly for his displays of anger, but it also wouldn't be good to support him as justified in his anger and accept his behavior because it stems from a traumatic background all the way to jail, you know? It's not something that will change on its own, and he's going to have plenty of opportunities in life for someone to say the wrong thing, or disrespect or betray him; I want him to be equipped to handle those things in a healthy way, instead of lashing out physically.
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045understandable but realistically he’s a kid, and acted like one, then when you add trauma to that it immediately takes it to a completely different level. He’s a kid trying to navigate himself through real life situations with no type of guidance in any way. I think his reactions were justified.
@jacksyoutubechannel4045 he's a teenager living through trauma without a support system and as a result doesn't have the capacity to tap into those executive functions that are either taught or learned with time (or medical assistance in some cases), you're doing way too much with these haughty & elitist expectations
Yup. People get angry when they get fucked
@iadesigns That guy definitely has issues. It's understandable for him to be angry, but his reaction was excessive. Especially him not being able to control himself in any capacity even amongst other people. He definitely needs mental health assistance to give him tools to work on his uncontrollable emotions moving forward.
The 50-60 something lady who used her adult daughters nudes, -the daughter took those pictures as a minor, to catfish minors was also a predator! Shes basically using her daughters cp to lure other kids! and the girl who was "Shayna" who catfished a child for 8 years, they really shouldve elaborated on the predators being predators a lot more!
That was probably the episode that disturbed me the most
Didn't similar happen to Nev, on Catfish the movie? Only he was an adult. I can't remember.
Yes, i remember this!! It was so disgusting!!
woah, what episode was this? i swear i’ve seen every episode but i missed this one
That episode with that mom that did that with daughter’s pictures will continue to haunt me. I can’t believe she didn’t get into serious trouble for that
Kamie is THE best thing to happen to Catfish. she keeps it really real.
I love her on the show SO much. Whoever cast her when Max left deserved a raise, immediately
@@jaydahope AGREED. i hope they never replace her or she decides to leave.
Honestly, Max did too! But I like how Kamie brings it out of Nev, personally 😂🤣 he says a lot more with her as his cohost !
My hubby & I love the show & we’re really disappointed when Max left but Kamie is a great permanent fixture. At first we kinda hated anyone who wasn’t Max that co hosted but when Kamie came around we started liking her very quickly, she is a perfect fit. We still miss Max but now we’d be really upset if Kamie left lol
she’s the perfect replacement for max!
I'm surprised people were calling his anger a red flag. With his backstory being disclosed I understood exactly how he felt. It's frustrating when it feels like everything is going wrong for you. Just constantly betrayals and let down. That'd be overwhelming, especially when putting your heart in a basket. Seeing him being comforted was amazing.
I also understand you calling it exploitative. I agree with that, but at the same time I'm glad Issax was exposed for not just being a catfish, but a predator. I think maybe if they cut out more of Jacob's vulnerable moments, it'd feel more tasteful, but all in all, I agree.
You're so right. He seems like a good kid, but even looking at him, there seems to be a lot of anger, hurt, maybe trauma. Some people aren't as compassionate or understanding. They just believe what they see & hear from TV/social media..
I think people who have had a hard time in life they do deserve his cynical and angry behaviour sometimes. Angry is a natural human emotion we have to stop shaming. As long as no one is physically hurt it’s okay.
It's a bit of a red flag. I get he has anger issues, and then he was being played by someone.
A person can only take so much before completely breaking down. It’s a moment of despair where you feel like you’re at rock bottom. This poor guy is probably so exhausted.
They’re not taking his age and vulnerabilities into account. Mentally ill people have red flags. It doesn’t mean his behavior was abnormal for the situation or that it wasn’t justified. Disappointed people tried to paint him as a potential abuser when he’s really just a kid still
"Violence solves a lot of things, i think, sometimes" 😂😂😂 VERY TRUE WHEN IT COMES TO ADULTS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF CHILDREN
That!! Part!!!!
That line was so funny lol
WORD
agreed! Isaac needs to get his ass beat by an angry father or some old gnarly dude with old man strength, not by one of these young kids. he needs to get punched by someone who can bail themselves out of jail. these kids have been through enough, they don't need an assault charge on top of everything. 100% predator. This is nothing but kindness compared to what he would receive in prison, and at this rate he will be there soon.
🙌 yes
18 is literally a kid 😢 I feel so bad for him. I was just thinking he’s reacting how a teenager would react to weird stuff like this
Ong people are werid
forget a kid Id be pissed too. When you barely trust anyone and then you decide to and its broken it hurts more than anything.
I hate when people say “but their an adult” yes legally but they’re still an immature adolescent. That’s not a bad thing, it’s only an issue when predators are preying on them like you’re not immediately an adult overnight no matter how “mature” you are
Couple years back, at 29, I was interested in a chic for a couple weeks, month or so. Found out she was actually 19...I felt like an absolute pedo. I was her age with a 36 and 38 year olold. Now that it's flipped, absolutely NOT
@pinkrebellionxyz1567 18 is a minor in the state of Nebraska
That rage inside of Jacob is just years of pain pent up... He just needs some friends and love. I applaud him for even being able to express his true emotions, because his anger was valid. Im praying for him.
As though life isn't rough enough for a foster kid. Having to move around so much had to affect his relationships and friendships. He just wants to be loved. All humans need that
It's so disgusting to go after young men that he *knows* will never be interested in him back.
It still would be disgusting to go after young gay men, but this guy is on a whole other level.
Making them trust him and talking to them for months on end, is so fucked up and I feel sorry for every guy he has done this to.
THIS!!!! It's just so predatory on so many levels. The emotional manipulation and mind games going on are just despicable. He likely has so many victims and continues to be a horrible person. You said it best, it is disgusting.
That's how Joe Exotic got his "husbands." Only young straight guys with issues and he would ply them with meth
I feel like the secondary perk of his behavior (beside attention) is pride from seeing a cute young man mentally derail on the spot, after finding out they’re conversing and flirting with an old gay man. He seemed way too entertained/proud of himself in this encounter. Yuck
If Kami ever leaves I’m never watching again. we need her. There was one time where Nev was like “we know how medical professionals treat women” and she interjected to emphasize the point and said “BLACK women” love that queen omg
Definitely love Kami❤
😂😂😂
😬😬😬 seeing this a year later hits different
It does 😢@@alexshaw8167
As someone who aged out of the system, i feel his PAIN. That is what it looks like when you finally let down your wall and let someone in that breaks you more then you were before. My heart goes out to this kid.
Yes! I remember that anger and pain too. Aged out in 1992 and I would go through this too.
Jacob is 18! Still a child. His emotional development hasn't fully even started, compound that with a tough life, and his reaction is very realistic. My nephew was the same at that age. This Isaac should be in some watch list imo
if you go off of that, up to 25 is still a kid, imo. i don’t understand why some say 18 is a child and some say 18 is an adult.
fr, when i was 18 i was still in highschool, living with my parents, not having a clue about life... this is HORRIFYING.
@@spam4656 18 is considered legally an adult, jus the age! not even in every country! so it depends on how u feel and identify as...
becuz ure still a fcking child, a teenager!!! and jus cuz the clock hits 12am doesn't magically make u an adult lmao u jus were a underage minor for a split second ago or minutes/months lol u have more responsibilites yes but sum lil kids have those responsibilites from such a yung age cuz of the houshold/financially unstable/abuse/neglect/foster care idk...
@@spam4656because people think being legally an adult means that you are..Being an adult is more than just age, its mindset as well, i know plenty of adults who are childish and 30 same way an 18 year old can be childish or “mature for their age”
You can't even get an apartment at 18 without a cosigner 😒
We need to agree that a predator is a predator, no matter their gender, identity, or sexuality … and they have no place in society
Exactly right to jail!!
Amen
@@spectre4194And under the jail!
We do
everyone agrees with that lmao.
The fact that people are saying this young traumatised dude deserved to have his hopes and dreams crushed because he got mad really says a lot about them as people. Poor kid. ☹
Who tf is saying that?
@@abirdgang They act like they wouldn't be do the same if this happened to them. He was lied to and the guy was trying to confuse him on his sexuality. I'd be furious if that happened to me
i mean.. boys that dont learn to regulate their anger usually become domestic abusers.. yeah its sad what happened but we do give pdf files an excuse when they were abused, why ignore this kids clear red flags
People pathologize anger as if it isn't a human emotion.
This "girl" was essentially one of the last people he had to hold onto. He's been betrayed & abandoned by every last person he's loved, so when he found out he's been played by this person his devastation comes out & presents as anger. That's why he breaks down crying shortly after. It's sickening to know that people out there can cause this type of heartache for their own selfish reasons. It definitely gives psychopath or sociopath behavior. Ugh my heart aches for this dude 😔
My mom abused me for years then kicked me out at 18, saying I was an adult even though she did NOTHING to actually help shape me into a functioning adult. I’m 32 now, and I have a 12 year old son….Jacob’s anger is totally justified and makes 1000% sense. I STILL struggle with anger because of all the severe trauma I went through, even to this day…I hope he finds peace and love always ❤
You are strong
I feel you. I understand. It takes decades to heal and unravel all that trauma. Then it becomes an added barrier to be the best mother you can be to end generational trauma.
Hey, I hope you find that too!!!! You deserve healing and healthy happiness as does he and any one of us who was broken down relentlessly as an innocent kid! I’ve been in the same spot with trauma and motherhood. You got this babe!
Question is though were you a teenager who knew everything about anything and just didn’t want to listen so your mom just put up her hands and said “you know what if you don’t want to listen then you’re on your own since you know everything about anything” and so she let you find your own way cause you already know everything
I always wonder what really is behind the full story when people post their comments do they intentionally leave out certain parts
I honestly don’t want to hear it
Same for me except it was my dad and his wife.
“You have an ugly soul” says the man who uses people’s trauma and vulnerability to manipulate them💀 Kamie has done nothing but continue to stick up for the catfished and give them a real reality check. I loved when Max was on the show bc he called out their bs too, but I LOVE Kamie for it bc she’s brutally honest and stands her ground
Don’t really watch catfish and not sure how this popped up for me, but I’m glad it did. Your story-telling was great, loved the commentary, and you seem like a really cool person!
Ahh thank you so much🥲. I really appreciate that, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video despite the randomness of it on your feed❤️
Same here lol I’m so intrigued
Same I been stop watching Catfish. I didn't even know the guy with the gray hair wasn't there. But I love her commentary.
Yo, same for me! I don't watch catfish, and I've never seen these vids before. But after this, my fifth video of watching this woman, this miracle of entertaining delivery, I'm hooked. Subscribed and bell!!
“He looks like the thing that you would see when you have sleep paralysis” 😂😂💀
I mean, he does🧍🏾♀️😭
I came here for THIS comment
I love Nev and Kami’s energy
I’m glad they had this opportunity to intervene in this young man’s life when he needed an angel.
I hope the negative stuff on social didn’t set him back
Issac needs arrested
I am 100% proud of that young man for expressing his anger safely and as respectfully as he could. As he grows, he will get better at coping and expressing it. For now, leaving the room (getting away from people: respect) and yelling (not breaking things: control) was perfect.
His anger was completely justified and while its clear hes had NO support system to help him learn emotional regulation, he has enough control to remove himself from the room where Nev and Kami were because he wasn't upset with them.
As a foster kid who aged out, I totally agree. He hasn't been taught how to respond to traumatic situations.
On another note, I live near Spo-can. 😊
this episode literally disgusted me. but i could listen to you talk about catfish for days!
Issax is genuinely a horrible human. I was so worried about the length of this video, so thank you so much for being here💖
Same! I’m newly subscribed and looking forward to more of your content ❤
I love how in this serious thing you put the sounds like “everybody’s so creative”😂
Lmfaoo thank you🫶🏾 I had to break up the heaviness somehow
I love Kami, she’s so real and never holds back.
Jacob is an adorable kid. One day he’s gonna find a great person.
He’s a beautiful kid.. I hope he finds someone with good intentions but it’s usually a predator that snaps these lost people up.. it’s so unbelievably sad..
To your last question - it's definitely exploitative but in this situation I think it ultimately was for the better for Jacob because without the show who knows how long he would have been emotionally strung along, and what kind of reaction he would have had when he did eventually find out without a team of people emotionally discussing it with him.
While the show definitely benefits from the drama, Nev and Kamie seem like they are genuinely concerned for and want to help him process his pain. If he had to confront that alone I think it would have hurt him much much more.
A true funeral professional would NEVER send someone a picture of "bodies" they're working with. RED FLAG
Nev and Kami really went full on protective parent mode with Jacob and I loved seeing it. They gave him a safe space to express his emotions and protected him from this predator that didn’t need to be in contact with him.
8:34 you just gained a new sub. Your empathy is showing. Thank you speaking up and speaking facts. If you aren’t taught how to properly regulate your emotions, faulting him for trying to do so will just perpetuate the cycle for both involved.
Violence is NOT the answer! Violence is the QUESTION, and the ANSWER is YEEEEESSSSS!!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I'm glad that they didn't let Jacob and Issac meet. It could have gone really badly, physically or otherwise. It's so said that Jacob was preyed, vulnerable as he already was. I hope he finds someone who isn't going to catfish or manipulate him
Issac is James Charles in 20 years..
These Cat Fish recaps are literally everything 🫶
James was my first thought too!!!
Seeing him get so upset is so sad to watch. He's only 18, he shouldn't be judged so harshly.
While he does have issues with anger it definitely stems from his upbringing. He seems like he handles it the best he can too- he removed himself from the room they were in and expressed his anger by himself
Exactly which takes a lot of willpower.
This!!! For someone so young, talking that step of removing yourself from such a triggering situation, to deal with his anger by himself rather than hurt others is so much more mature than some men I’ve seen on the internet who have more life experience.
Jacob's expression is actaully healthy...even in therapy, some anger-releasing techniques include screaming and breaking/punching things...the fact that he has the ability to feel anger building up in him and has the mind to get up and go into another room, away from other people, to 'blow up' or release anger is actually a good self-regulation skill that requires self-awareness and self-discipline. But society prefers people to bottle things up because publicly expressing anger is seen as socially unacceptable. I love that you described his 'anger' as frustration and pain because that's what it truly is.
His anger is absolutely justified. His entire life has been moving across the country and being in foster care, being moved from family to family and place to place. If he opens up to one foster family, he'd just end up leaving again. Being in the foster system doesn't guarantee stability for the child. This can be traumatic for children. So when a kid gets out and grows up and finally chooses to trust someone, just for them to exploit their trauma and lie to them about everything- YEAH that person is going to break down and scream and cry. Jacob, we are wishing you the best
My heart just broke for that kid.
I have a son the same age.
I would take him in any day. Poor kid.
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With saying all this, Mama, I just found your channel. This is my first video of yours I'm watching...gurl, I instantly subbed.
I finally found someone as "quick whitted" as I am.
You got a new fan.
To you, & everyone reading this, have a blessed day. ❤
Lil mans would have beat the brakes off old stranger danger 😂 knocked him right out his heels 😂😂😂
Old stranger danger has me HOLLERING💀😭
Anger is an Umbrella emotion and you're 100% correct underneath is pain, despair etc.
Its so important for people to recognize this so the anger can be fully worked through!
I understand how it was exploitative but I feel like Jacob needed it. Especially with Nev and Kami comforting him and walking him through finding the truth like the adults that he deserved
You narrate videos sooo good girl! I clicked this thinking it was the actual catfish episode and stuck around because you are straight to the point I love it!! Thanks
love how you broke down this episode! i empathize with jacob so much and thanks for painting him in a light that shows he’s HUMAN not a monster because mtv definitely.
Anyone saying that his anger is a “red flag” clearly doesn’t understand that he’s 1. Very young and 2. has already gone through so much.
exactly! and the fact he left the room is a green flag. he was angry but knew it wasn’t their fault and went off to let it out.
I remember watching this episode when it aired and feeling SO DIGUSTED for this young man. I felt so terrible for him and this was probably the only episode I've ever cried over. I agree that a lot of personal moments shouldnt have been included but, im glad they were there for this young man because he seemed to need some other strong people in this moment and i fear what wouldve happened if he was alone. Poor kid just wants a break and to be loved 🥺
As for Isaac. He is DISGUSTING and a COMPLETE predator. To prey on the vulnerability of freshly turned 18 year old? He needs to be investigated because i have a hard time believeing he didnt reach below 18 😠
I understand what Jacob went through, I was also homeless at 18 with an abusive mother. It's rough when you don't know how to express yourself and have no where and no one to turn to. It takes a long time to break those walls down after a betrayal. There wasn't as much social media access in my day. I had no access. But I did have a short fling with a 52 year old woman, she was pretty and nice. His and my story is kinda similar. I am glad he is OK and wish him nothing but the best.
The scariest part to me is the fact that this struggling, aching, kid with no home or place to permanently stay would have been in a really scary position. I have no doubt Isaac would have tried to give him a place to stay or offer him some kind of aid that a struggling kid would find hard to turn town. He’s not safe for young people to be around. AT ALL
Kami’s facial expressions and takes make this show
I think it was actually good to show this episode so that people could see that theres people like Isaac who prey on young boys who are struggling in life. PREDATORS like issac are sick and gross and need to be exposed!
So glad Jacob was able to make a complete win here ❤️❤️❤️ being Catfished by a 40 year old gay man pretending to be a young girl is like an actual nightmare , or you know any 40 year old pretending to be like 20 online 💀 🤮
You are so well spoken. I was one of the people that thought his behavior was scary but I totally agree with everything you said and hadn’t thought of it that way. Thanks for this new perspective
I’m glad Jacob is doing alright. He didn’t deserve any of that shit.
"The Tony voice" gets me every time. THAT was a twist
Another case where - as Queen Swoop says - it's not drama, it's dangerous
this is honestly one of the most disturbing Catfish eps from a safeguarding perspective - it’s genuinely concerning that this middle-aged man was taking to somebody under the age of 18, especially because there seems to be evidence that he has pictures of Jacob shirtless? like, what else did he exploit Jacob into sending him? that would be a literal crime. it also makes me wonder who else he’s talking to, because he has absolutely no qualms with Jacob’s age so there’s nothing stopping him from doing it to somebody of a similar age or younger. if it wasn’t so threatening, the boldness it takes to openly advertise yourself on international television as a potential child sex offender is almost admirable. prison, honey.
Seriously! I’m so damn sick of these sex offenders running rampant😤
@@liastorm795 right? they really are too emboldened. in an ideal world this ep never would’ve aired and would’ve gone straight to the police
this bro! when pedos are exposed and police cant search their homes, they can then destroy their evidence
Depending on when Jacob’s bday is he still could’ve been 18 and hoe long did they “date”?
@@hannahr5203what could they have done tho he’s 18 and they prolly didn’t start “dating” till after he turned 18 if he was 17 when they first met
If he turned 18 very recently, and perhaps living in foster care, it's de rigeur to ask kids to move out at 18. Foster parents' responsibility ends when the kids turns 18, and if a deeper relationship between Jacob and his fosters hasn't developed (which seems possible with his trust issues surrounding parents) then it increases the chances of Jacob having to figure stuff out at 18. And my opinion is Jacob at least had the idea that the show would get him to Isaac/Staph Infection The Clown. And from what it sounds like, the clown may have known Jacob was about to be homeless and that's when they started talking about getting married. Otherwise, there was a chance that Jacob could lose Internet and/or phone access without any compelling reason to make that a financial priority. Thinking this only makes me feel dirtier about the episode in general.
In terms of it happening within the same season, those episodes could have been shot a year apart for what we know. Shows like this require editing that helps whatever narrative they're telling, and that takes time. Some "reality shows" are heavily produced and Catfish spanning different parts of the country, sometimes in the same episode, makes it hard to suspend my disbelief that they meet the catfished and the next day they have air tickets to wherever. It takes a little more planning than that, much less to know that the catfisher will be home and allow a camera team to set up in their house. The Catfishers house is always immaculate. We rarely get to see the catfisher's computer set up, which one would figure would be very interesting to the viewer. There's a lot to unpack when you peek behind the curtain.
Well they absolutely saved this kid's life but I pray he must have had some friends and money for a bus home, that's like an emergency situation
You thinking far too much into a reality tv show.
Its heavily edited, sure, but its mostly as simple as you see it.
It depends on the state. A lot of states have transitional homes and programs for older children
Isaac had no plans on marrying him. He's done this before. He goes after young people just to exploit them then finds another victim. Like those p3dos who find another victim after their current ones aged out. Having Jacob trapped in that demon's house would have led to a lot of horror for him. That demon would have used Jacob like a traffic victim then thrown him out like his mom and the system did.
Also, I wouldn't care about the computer set up. Especially when you can do the same catfishing crap on your phone, as most do.
I absolutely enjoyed your breakdown of this episode. You're absolutely right about the catfish being a predator. The way you explained the episode made me feel like I had actually watched it. Thank you for this amazing review. New sub here!
People need to see episodes like this unfortunatly. People neednto see how much you can affect peoples lives catfishing them.
This is sad how that guy has spent so much time grooming this hurt young man and expected to convince him he was gay. People don't just have a light switch to decide if they are gay or not this young man was very valid in his emotions and his past. More charges should be done on the 40+ year old that is very serious about doing this to these young people and some mental health or charges should be happening. This is not a safe situation and I do like how they worked with Jakob working through his emotions and validation of the hurt and manipulation he has been going through. I'm kinda glad that did show this episode showing they vulnerability and how it's ok to feel anger and other emotions without fully acting on them and working through them.
YES JACOB!!!!! Stay strong man!! YOU can make it and you seem like a genuinely good dude. Work on yourself and your people will gravitate towards you. In a year or two you’ll look back and be so proud of how far you’ve come. Keep on keepin on 💪❤️
"If Jacob was here he would have beat your ass", I lowkey wish he did. 😭😭
Jacob's reaction to an incredibly bizarre situation after everything he's been through in life is completely understandable and valid. Sometimes bottled up emotions come out in an explosive flood but it doesn't always mean a person is going to be dangerous. Jacob has been through more pain and frustration at only 18 than most of us will experience in a whole lifetime. With time, therapy, friends and love, I think he'll be fine. I think his time with Neve and Cammie did him good. It might have been the first time he felt genuinely cared about. I agree, this episode should not have aired. He deserves privacy while he heals. Also, Isaac needs to be on some kind of watch. He's clearly a groomer.
It is sickening how they discussed that young man. He’s a kid with no home, no hope, no support. The little sliver of hope he had was a lie. His anger is valid and lots of trauma is underneath it.
Girl you were so good at interpreting this episode and should review so much more and I hope you go viral! You’re extremely intelligent 🥰
I'm so happy that Jacob is doing better, but this predator needs to be stopped. Psychological sabotage in the hopes of getting an emotional connection is straight up evil. There's no other way to put it
If the account was still active it can be reported at least that’s what I was told the first time I was told all this in school 🤷🏾♀️
I feel so bad for Jacob 😢 I was homeless in my younger years too and life is so hard when you have no support system. He is also having a meltdown because his life has been so freaking hard. Man this sucks.
Girl you DESERVE more followers. I LOVE this content and I’m so mad I didn’t find you sooner! I feel for Jacob I really do and I hope he gets the hell and love he deserves ❤
Ugh I relate so much to poor, sweet Jacob because that life and that age was me a long time ago. I am so glad Kamie and Nev could be genuinely kind and helpful to him.
Love how this ended for Jacob and your compassion for Jacob
Even as a woman at 18 with anger problems he handled it a lot better than I ever did
Girlllll I love your personality! So off the chain and keeping it 100 :) I feel bad for this kid. I’ve seen the other episode as welll
"Clown" is such a simple, efficient insult but it is absolutely devastating
Jacob's mom putting him into care was probably for the best, and it really wasn't about 'not wanting to figure things out'. For a lot of vets, especially female vets, and people with similar long-term, compounded, or repeated trauma, the PTSD can be debilitating. I've worked with patients who physically couldn't take care of themselves bc of their mental status, couldn't remember to eat or take meds or bathe, couldn't regulate sleep or other natural body rhythm. It's so far past the choice of whether or not to 'figure it out'.
When I was 18, my emotions were even worse than him. My anger was constant! So I felt for him, a lot. So for people to say "red flag" when he hasnt had a stable home for the majority of his life, they dont think further than themselves. I hope Jacob is doing okay now!
Did I miss something. Was he crashing film equipment or hitting people? Yelling in a bathroom IS regulating. It is a healthy reaction to move those emotions.
Does this generation see any range of emotion as a red flag? I am confused.
Edit to add: I don't mean this generation in a condescending way. I truly don't know exactly what young people are taught is socially acceptable forms of expression for intense emotion. Is it all supposed to be sublimated into external things like music or causes or sport?
🌋🤬The episide SHOULD NOT have been aired. The guy IS a predator. It could have been even anonymouly. I hope that the show reported this guy to local police. There has to be a LOT more to this.
Potential minors should not be on this show and it is predatory too. The boy could have gone down a very dangerous path in the WORST WAY.. We know this has happened before after reality show 'reveals'.
But he’s 18 what is the cops gonna do cuz tho could’ve started “dating” when he was 18 which is legal
@@brennathecatlover4360you are correct, there’s no law saying “if he’s 18 and he’s 40 you’ll get arrested” have these “lived under the rock” people not been on a dating site and seen many 18 year olds looking for someone much older than them
I bet the person who wrote the original comment would have an emotional meltdown if they went on Snapchat since there’s a lot of 18 year olds looking for someone much older
And he goes on to say “Potential minors should not be on this show” I’m guessing he’s probably hasn’t watched any of the other seasons since basically the show does cover 18 year old getting themselves hooked, line and sinker then maybe these 18 year olds shouldn’t be looking for love on any app (just find someone out in their city who’s a hot mess as well) cause they have know someone is going to use their weaknesses and emotions against them (it’s the oldest trick in the book) any catfish can see that hell any manipulative person can see that (ask any girl who dated a bad boy, bad boys will easily manipulate them)
I absolutely love your giggle after he said “more like a funeral” 😂😂 that was perfect
The "everybody's so creative audio coming in at 15:00 got me 💀💀💀
As a mom of a boy who literally just turned 18, my heart broke for Jacob. He needs unconditional love and stability. ❤
I love how compassionate you are!! Most people online are very ~empath~ ~therapy talk~ when in reality those people are highly toxic and love to throw around buzzwords like red flag when they're the red flag lol. Anyways love this video!!! Subbed!
Jacob’s show of emotion was not a red flag in the least. What we saw was a young man who has had a very difficult start in life and who normally would not show vulnerability or trust to a person but did so, against his better judgement, and was horribly screwed over in the process. That emotion he showed was not just anger. There was extreme hurt, confusion, embarrassment, frustration, disappointment…and many other emotions. Jacob was experiencing all that turmoil simultaneously, in front of strangers AND with cameras in his face. He walked away from everyone, likely to take a few moments to himself to calm down and get his head together and he was followed. He did not show us “red flag” behavior. He showed us that he is human. And I wish more of the viewing public could show an ounce of humanity towards him rather than condemning him for a seemingly normal reaction to circumstances most of us may never experience.
I'm pretty sure if the hosts and producers sense any kind of potential violence they have the responsibility to ensure it does not happen. Giant liability from so many angles if they ended up enabling an assault.
It gets me mad people saying Jacob’s anger isn’t justified. That boy has never had trust or love in his life and nobody to teach him how to deal with big emotions. He’s is absolutely justified in his actions. He needs LOVE and support.
The first time I saw this episode I felt stressed out, and I didn't know how to put it into words. I knew a lot of other viewers would see his rage as displaced instead of factoring in all these things, the fact he was being groomed by man in his 40s. I think an important episode although difficult topic would be season 8 episode 32. Paul & Caitea.
It’s a very normal reaction to finding out you’re being catfished. It was downright mature and well spoken from the clips we saw and speaking through it. Grooming and lying and betrayal, pretty normal to be angry and defensive in that situation.
@@alishac5096 Sorry, I don’t feel I explained myself well. As someone with borderline personality disorder and struggles with emotional regulation. I sympathized with Jacob, I know how it feels when you can’t regulate your emotions during a traumatic and stressful event, and his reaction is a 1000% justified. I was referring to how it would look to others on the outside who don’t have the emotional maturity to understand how complex what he is faced with in this episode. And I knew a lot of viewers would just see his anger and not how it is justified or understand how hard it can be to regulate emotions during events like that, but especially when like me and him. You’ve never been shown how to or been helped to find better ways to regulate.
My fear was people would see his rage and nothing else. Which I feel was expressed well in this video, seeing as how some viewers reacted to his rage versus the grown man who had been grooming him. And is likely grooming others.
@@Samantha-zx8ht I’m so glad to see this being openly acknowledged, so many people are marginalized by their trauma symptoms. This kind of predatory behavior and ignorance of the community has to end. I’m happy you responded, I agreed so much with your initial comment I felt it warranted further discourse, I’m sorry if I didn’t make it clear my response wasn’t aimed at you but more of a continuation of your original comment 💜
I hope this Jacob finds happiness in life, he seems like a very nice person and it is so heart breaking that someone could do this another person.
As someone who was in a foster home, and group home and having to learn to trust someone... I felt homies pain. 😢
that Everyone so Creative edit was everything and Chile u gained a follower
I feel him, I am him. I have 3 children and I’ve learned that my anger is a way to mask my pain. I’m hurt I grew up by myself. I was a nomad. Now as an adult I can maneuver through life but it’s my emotions that are the problem I learned to walk away do it in private. It’s life long pain.
omg, i busted out laughing "the thing you would see when you have sleep paralysis" made that "wedding" dress go from sad to OMFG scary as hell
Jacob is such a good and loving person. I’m so sorry he had such heartbreak in his life and so much trauma.
My favorite line of yours..... He looks like the thing you would see when you have sleep paralysis!!!! That is a gem!!!...... And you're not wrong !!!!!
As sad as it is to watch his hurt…. In the long run, him getting to tell his story and be seen may help him in the long run. Maybe this show will change his life for the better .
Great analysis. The internet is ruthless. He's literally 18.
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I think it’s pretty obvious that Jacob is vulnerable to mental health issues, and I do find it sad that he was exploited. It’s disappointing the viewers thought his anger was a red flag. This episode feels sorta dirty to watch (not that most catfish episodes aren’t)..
I love how you jump right in and stay on topic. I never watch these types of videos but love watching you. New sub here
I remember when I first saw this one. I felt so bad for Jacob. After all he has been through in his life he didn't deserve this.
I worked with kids in care and a lot don't have a lot of emotional regulation skills, so seeing jacob made me sad. I'm glad Jacob trusted them enough to comfort him and didn't exploit his natural reaction. Its also crazy that issax got dolled up because he thought he'd make a "moment" out of Jacob's discomfort, hurt feelings. Then he tried to manipulate the situation to get to meet jacob in person just make an another chance to create that viral moment
He’s so young and has been through so much already, it probably just feels like one more bad thing 🥺😭 poor guy
I like catfish, but your commentary was so hysterical and spot on that even though I saw this episode I stayed for your comments lol
You said Spokane right the second time Spo-can lol I agree Issac is a predator. I can believe people thought Jacob's anger was too much like it was completely valid 🙃