Can we agree that not having healthy two parent homes impacts men and women in negative ways in relationships? It definitely has an impact on women that makes us hyper independent and it leaves men with a caricature of what being a loving husband and leader is vs a real lived out example.
@@gabriellew.4847 So the solution is to keep pumping out unparented kids outside of wedlock with numerous fathers? That's a death sentence for the child, not the parents. Your government knows that which is why the government uses black female faces and voices on the media to fashion your thinking in this matter. The target isn't black men or women but the black nuclear family.
oh I agree alright. I agree that the family unit's done for, I agree that society's burning and with it morals, principles and tradition, I agree that even if we (as a collective) wanted to fix this; remove no fault divorce, make false allegation a crime or even illegalize abortion again, sadly it won't, because this world is broken beyond repair.
@@UnseathedDeity I have to go back to get to where we are now. I listen to people talk and I do not think people know who we really are. How important our story is to all of humanity. What concerns me is that I can (using mainstream academic resources) place the origins of modern humanity to Southeastern Africa about 200,000 years ago. And even before that, before there was homo sapiens sapiens, we had already cultivated the use and control of fire (500,000 years ago) we created the ax (250,000 years ago) We created the bow and arrow (75,000 years ago) around the same time when created the earliest human art (South Africa), and there were five other humanoid species populating the planet, we defeated all of them to become the dominant species on Earth. In fact, for the first 150,000 of humanity, there were nothing but Africans, all of humanity traces their ancestry back to a group of African grandmothers (traced through mitochondrial DNA). The Ishango and Lebombo traces our creation of mathematics to between 20-35 thousand years ago (they are stored in the natural history museum in Belgium). From the Dhars in Mauritania to Eredo in Nigeria, we have numerous examples of ancient cities we built throughout the continent of Africa. We never needed to argue over Egypt. How can a people who know only a FRACTION of their past claim to know who they are? In the United States, the Red Summer (which can even be found in Wikipedia) highlights a series of massacres, which happened from Chicago to Detroit to New Orleans to Tulsa to Winston-Salem and dozens of other cities across America (primarily over a year and a half period). These acts were a response to the fact skilled former slaves were able to create economic districts throughout America in which they outpaced their white peers during the period of Reconstruction. We called these areas BLACK WALLSTREET. Thousands were killed (black people at the time said that white racists attempted to significantly lower the numbers). Millions in property and innovations were destroyed or stolen. Many brilliant and bold black men were targeted and assassinated. And then the racists walked away and just got away with it. This turned our community inside out. This is the trauma that broke the camel's back, if you will. This is the birthplace of Jim Crow and similar programs in the North as well as the West. The period of racism was designed to suppress economic competition, under threat of violence (lynching and other extra-judicial murders). Protecting racial purity was used a point of social manipulation. Forcing black men out of the capitalist path was the deeper goal. This was the shift. This is the trauma we struggle with now. When these people were allowed to come into our neighborhoods and get away with this, it gave birth to the conscious which ultimately lead to the ghetto bullshit we see today. When young black men, in their youthful desire for success and influence, could not participate in the larger system more and more black men turned to "alternative" economies (aka Hustles) to survive. When Malcolm and Martin and Medgar were murdered, the Civil Rights Movement was in shambles and a powerful wave of nihilism set into our people. We had been known for taking care of the little that we had until we let our communities fall into chaos and disrepair. This is the dark trajectory that we are still traveling now. Without historical knowledge, we are fighting with the wind. Here's what the average person knows, they know there was Movement during the 60's, they know that we were slaves for hundreds of years. So, if I am being generous, maybe, they have a limited understanding of the last couple hundred years of the last 200,000 of our story. That is not even one percent. Think about that. I don't see alpha males. I don't see boss bitches. All I hear is bluster and false bravado. I see multi-generational trauma. I see bold talking people who mostly sound rudderless and shallow. This doesn't mean that I don't appreciate that people are trying but we have yet to ever have any serious dialogue. Throughout the history of the world, one of the most serious warnings that previous generations have leveled to the future has been completely consistent. Forget your history and you may be forced to repeat it. And they are out banishing and burning books about our history. I only hope we can get serious one day.
And these women will swear up and down there are good men! They’re saying women are supposed to protect these men and bs for the sake of his family! This is a load of crap!
My ex used to constantly give guidance regarding what I should do, which used to drive me crazy. Truthfully, sometimes I miss it. I'm tired of making so many decisions. I now recognize that he was protecting me, but I didn't feel like I needed so much oversight.
I totally understand what you mean a lot of times men want to just take over and it goes from you being able say ‘Okay he is taking the lead nice!’ into he is controlling or acting more like a parent to me than a partner. The difference between a man who can lead and can’t can be those smaller details that are important.
@@favordog201112 No one's perfect. But even at that. This situation you're talking about is something that can be fixed with a conversation. Both parties need the assurance that they are still loved in the relationship. The woman needs to communicate that she doesn't like how he gives his guidance, i.e., he's too forceful or treats her like a child. The man needs to listen to her frustrations even when he can't make heads or tails of it. Jordan Peterson said it best: your woman may not immediately pinpoint the problem, so give her the leeway to let it all out. As men, it's our responsibility to listen and make adjustments when our significant other complains about these little things. It can help better us as people. The woman in the situation above should also give her significant other the chance to say some words. Sometimes he might need to think through what to say and how to say it. Don't be in a hurry to butt in when he's quiet and thinking. Let him process your words because your words will come with a lot of emotions. If at all he doesn't talk, he might end up holding you to affirm his love. Don't take it that he doesn't care. He's letting his silence and actions (in this case, holding you) speak for him. If he does talk (and he may not talk much), listen to what he has to say. Listening is much harder than speaking. But if you can train yourself to do it. You'll be a better person for it.
I’ll put an end to all the misunderstandings. Men, pick women that you equally yoked. As an adult , educated, self-sufficient woman, I do not need instruction from my partner regarding my role in any relationship. We have to work as a partnership.
If you can't respect the man as the leader, then you'll never get a solid man that's a provider. Considering that you're middle aged, you'll always be stuck in your ways, and think that it's the men who are the issue 👍🏽👍🏽
Well, if you know how to be a lady in a relationship, if you know how to defer to the man as the leader in the relationship, you're good. Your man himself won't be perfect. There'd be things he'd like to learn from you too. A partnership like what you want would still need someone in the leading role. This may not be very significant at the beginning but as said relationship progresses, there'll be a clear line as to who's leading and who's following. Relationships aren't jobs even if we make comparisons and examples. For one, we are more emotionally invested in it. So we shouldn't be in competition with our significant other. In fact, relaxing in your feminine energy will let you as a woman see if the man you're with can truly lead.
On gang I feel as though they do the relationship podcast for clout and money as well I just like the people that they bring to there show that bring valuable lessons advice and content and conversation they are definitely not people I fully trust want a relationship let alone a woman
@@rashionnamerritt6811 i’m so glad i’m not the only one who sees this ! it’s so obvious they are not into women at all ! These are gay men in atlanta… shit wild asff bruhhh
I possibly was too old to even watch. But I did... these young men have a lot to learn about women. I'm 45 and everyone on this panel has a lot to learn. I am a business owner, a mom and been a wife and pouring energy into us as women is done enough.
I feel the same. So glad you said that. I always feel that they blame women for bad picks instead of the poor quality and behavior of Men. And how much do Men need to be affirmed? And what they're really saying. I want a wife or gf to build my life with and she needs to be coach able and in alignment. She needs to stroke their ego and support them to deal with the challenges of life. I get that part but they are from this younger generation. Still no clue.
@rebeccarobinson2547 Bad men will always exist. There is nothing men, in general, can do about this, so it's ALL up to a woman to vet who she has children with and preferably it should be with her husband.
@KidRipable there is always something too learn on every level in life. Forever a student ... thats how you get wise. And you proved my point exactly with that question
Stop the hatred of black women!! Please read the article by Ben Horwitz: Black women are for grown-ups!! We are not for little boys who need a mama!! Please learn about love and loyalty!!
Violence wasn't a 'big part' of Malcolm's X message..*logic* was. Malcolm understood that the enemy only understands & recognizes money & violence (violence especially). He recognized that there was no discernable difference between the so called white liberal & conservative. His message/mentality for liberation was by any means necessary, but not necessarily violence. He knew that singing old Negro spirituals from the enemy's religion while getting beaten up wasn't going to get us very far (and it hasn't)
Some times I think 🤔 if MLK and Malcom was alive today to witness our culture and history what they fight so hard for 😩 what would they say about Men of Color on live and Black Woman 💯😉
As a woman that had been married and back on the dating scene I've learned that men have similar rules! Listening is huge among so many other factors. but I also learned that some men can be very bitter after a breakup with a woman they valued, and the next women can suffer from what I believed is insecurities from the last breakup, due to not being properly healed. I believe just like women should be accountable, some men don’t know what accountability is? A relationship is being vulnerable to the one you love, respecting, protecting the one you love and most don’t know how that look like. And most men as women do not like to receive criticism, but quick to criticize.
Exactly!! I need to be able to know it's ok to be myself and vulnerable around my man I need to know I'm safe alone at home with no one else around with my man 🤷♀️ FACTS
Ryan's is not mentally mature in his communication. He's not willing to have a woman who challenges him. There's no growth and expansion in that way of thinking. Women don't need INSTRUCTIONS. They need support and effective communication.
I don't always agree with small wonder(Ryan)😂😂 but in his defense,men don't need a woman to challenge them, they get enough of that when they walk outside the door everyday by the world, we need a woman to challenge the world together, not challenge each other, be a help meet, not a discouragement to us.
@@mistahjay8598 Why would a man with money put up with an American woman who challenges him, when he can travel to Brazil and other places to get a more attractive, more fit, younger woman who follows his lead? Since I discovered Brazilian women I don't deal with American women at all. We are in a global market for black people seeking relationships American women demand the most, offer the least, and are the least pleasant to be with.
A man’s provision is a blessing, I love feeling cared for, protected and guided by my man. I wouldn’t want it any other way, my man should lead and I will follow happily because I trust him and God trusts him :)
Ryan had me a little nervous when he started but by the end, I feel like he is a solid dude. So nice to see you guys on the other side of the table. Tyshawn looks toooo good! 😋
You know what…I continued to listen out of respect of the artistry of content creators and seeing the Hardly Initiated guys that I have respected in the past got me excited…but this ain’t it. The longer I listen the more I lament the words I hear. Mentioning “escapism” for single black females when it comes to working to be a better version of yourself while single is wild. What exactly should we be doing? An educated woman does not mean that woman doesn’t want a healthy relationship or is led to emasculate a man. The subtle arrogance and double talk is definitely confusing…but then you praised Kevin Samuels and confused me even more. KS was certainly bold and controversial and pioneered this type talk…but he just ain’t the standard. I hope with all the expected devotion, that men will reciprocate in kind as the leader should. Clarity is the kindest information you can give.
A single BW shouldn’t waste another day listening to any of this. If she desires a husband she should go to the men who marry the most and provides the most - hint it’s not blak men. Life is too short for this nonsense. You will look up and be 60 years old waiting on some BM to pick you. This isn’t it.
I enjoyed the show, however, I took serious issue with the fact that the gentleman said they cannot date a woman trying to climb the corporate ladder. Women that are in business for themselves, or trying to reach professional goals deserve love too. And if we are all honest, we know that women have started to be more aggressive in work and business because they’ve seen too many of their mothers, sisters, cousins and aunts suffering financially when the man has walked out on them. Or they have experienced it firsthand themselves when they were left stuck with the children to raise by themselves. Over the last decade or two, women becoming successful entrepreneurs happened more so out of a need Than anything else. We were also put on the back burner, while black man pursued every other race or skin tone opposite of us so the opportunity to delve into a career was easy. But that does not mean that black women don’t deserve to be loved or protected by a man that is willing to die for her!! It’s kind of sad to suggest that a black woman should reverse the trajectory of her successes in hopes to get a man!! Because if we go back even decades further we’d realize that before women started climbing these corporate ladders, they still didn’t get the love, dedication, and protection from their boyfriends and husbands that they deserved. I think it’s easy for the gentlemen on this show (whom I do still admire) to make such a comment because maybe they don’t have daughters of their own yet. But once they have a daughter and their daughter starts to become of age, and they love that daughter… then they will begin to see how difficult it is for their daughter to find a man deserving of her. Then likely those same men would dare not tell his daughter to lessen herself or stifle her potential in hopes that some man will come along and feel like she is datable’ 💯 On another note, the career woman deserves all the promises of riches and glory that God gave, just like the man. So, who are they to try to deny a woman Gods promise for them? That’s just something else to think about!
Im in my sixties and grew up in a "traditional" home. Those stay at home wives/mothers did not have it easier than we did and they were DEFINITELY not treated better. Those men/husbands did whatever they wanted and MOST of them took no thought what so ever to how their behaviour and choices affected their families. Their so called "leadership" only benefited their needs, wants and desires and those women had to go along with it because they were raised to be "submissive" to their husbands and had very little choices available to them to be independent of their abuse, neglect and control. You name it, those men were doing it. I made up my mind even as a child that I wasnt going to live like that. I got all kinds of negativity and harassment from the women I grew up around, but i didn't care and was going to live my life, my way and yes, im married. 38 years and my husband knows that the only man I have to answer to, is the one that created me. He respects me as I do him.
@@jdavis6727 the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31 was her own boss. She wasn't climbing a cooperate ladder working for someone else. That's why she can have the time to care for her home and children. Ryan and Tysean specifically talked about the the corporate woman. And asking Google the meaning of 'the corporate woman' gives the Cambridge definition of a businesswoman - a woman who works in business, especially one who has a high position in a company. So you see, they're not saying they can't date women who have their own thing going for them, i.e., skills, entrepreneurship, etc. they're say they can't date women who slave their time away for a company.
You can be a great business person, but not be a good wife. You can give birth, and not be a good mother. Financial and academic success doesn’t always guarantee that you are a good woman, nor does a man’s height guarantee that he would be a good husband or boyfriend. Statistically the more money a woman makes the more selective she becomes. The phrase we hear in the dating sector is my man has to make more money than me. Only 18% of men make $100,000, that means that those women are writing off 82% of men. There are not enough of those men around to meet the needs of this selective group of women. A man has no problem dating below his socioeconomic status. Hopefully this helps you.
Very natural and mature conversation . no unnecessary disruption , no screaming or overtalking and also great talking points in general just good to listen to ! thanks guys
A man should be able to take his woman to any occasion and feel confident that he will represent them with respect and dignity. A real woman is able to maintain her dignity in situation. You Never Know Who Is Watching. Whose life will be changed by Her Light.
I must say this: many women today have a some bad past relationship experience and they are not aware that they became also negative to men. And because of that, they can be unpleasant and rude to men. But.... even that kind of woman will on average have a positive response to nice man behavior. Problem (beside women who did not heal) is lack men of good behavior. Ego of todays man is too... too big. They only thought about himself, in relationship especially. And this is for us women BIG turn off. As a woman, I look at little things someone does...because, this is sign how a man will behave in big situation. Few days ago, I was going to pay my parking ticket. I was few steps to parking automat (no one was there) and all of a sudden out of nowhere, came this guy in his early/mid 30ties flew in on this parking machine through me and paid his ticket. When he was done, he turn around look at me and just go like nothings happened. I said in my head: Ok, this guy was probably in hurry, and I go to pay my ticket. Then again, guy behind me also take my turn and paid his ticket. Then I turn around and see one more guy who was standing behind us... I look at him, took my step beside and let him to pay his ticket. I was standing there with my money and ticket. 2 guys are pushed through me to pay ticket and the last one I gave him my turn. I did not want to say anything to them because I dont know what to cause a drama. But I thought to myself...If I was like this guys push myself through others or said something, I will turned out like a angry woman who hates men. Today's men do not have the patience to wait their turn, let alone be or invest in a deep relationship such as a relationship or marriage. Shame
Problem is Swag. And Capacity for aggression. Are more important to women than how a man treats her. So men who want seX mimic those behaviors. Because that's who you all have sex with. The minute you all start prioritizing and promoting the sexual desiribility of the other types of guys. Men will mimic those behaviors. You all dictate what traits men try to embody, by who you have sex with.
The the funniest part of your comment is if you wrote man where you wrote women and vice versa most men would think comment 100% valid as I'm sure most women feel the comment is valid as is
@@calvintabb Sorry, but I dont understand your point. I can also write about good things that I experience with men (there were a lot of them) My point is that that good (everyday) experience with men are mostly gone, because men are changed. Before, guys were doing everything that a woman (even a strange woman) feel good. Today, men are only thinking about them self. This is not a rant, just me observing. Dont go turn over what women are doing, because this topic is about men.
For Ryan to say he wants a woman who trusts and that’s his problem and not look on the mirror and say “why don’t i make these women comfortable enough to trust in me” speaks volumes. His conversation shows he doesn’t warrant trust yet but he thinks it’s the lady’s problem if they don’t blindly trust him. yeah go get you a young girl playa. still luv u guys though ❤
True but many women(and men) have been burned enough times to where their ability to trust is broken - they are now hyper focused on every little flaw someone might have and look for reasons not to trust them. A lot of jaded and defensive folks out there
Love and relationships are too overly politicized. All of the ‘what men and women should and shouldn’t do’ relationship conversations are bs. Find someone you are compatible with, that you love and respect and focus on loving each other every single day. Silence the outside noise, silence people who want to negatively project on you and yours and find yourself some peace. Husbands and wives submit themselves to one another. Stop trying to mold and control and learn how to maturely relate to another human being. The end
Respectfully, changing the title will catapult the views & subscribers. Some comments under this video were made by some who saw the title & made judgement without even viewing the content. These men love black women btw. This was excellent dialogue 💕
I find young twentysomething women to be extremely headstrong and LESS open to guidance and advice. It is only when they get older and get wise to their flaws and shortcomings do they get open to masculine leadership and guidance.
As a divorced woman that just turned 40, I totally agree with this. I’m just starting to learn the value of being led and allowing myself to fulfill my role, which is not being the leader. It feels great!
I personally single handed blames Kevin Samuels for the gender wars. He literally went viral and cause all this divisiveness in the black community yet y’all praise him😒😒😒foh
@davidconover2652 no black women was minding their business before they got attack. he wasn't going viral when he was bashing men because women didn't care. Men made him viral once he start bashing women.
@@BigbossBonita actually, he became famous when a black woman asked for his consultation the same way black men did, and he gave her the same energy. She didn’t take it well, like most women wouldn’t, and it went viral. NOBODY ATTACKED YOU. She asked for his opinion and he gave it. If she wanted somebody to kiss her ass she picked the wrong dude 🤷🏾♂️
Emotional Mature ❤ and some people will NEVER grow if they can’t grow up and open up within THEMSELVES 💯💯💯 I personal will always love a BLACK MAN, and not because I’m BLACK 🇺🇸🇧🇧
Tyrese said it best in his new song, love transaction, life really does imitate art. a woman's love is contingent upon what's provided and how much is provided.
@mistahjay8598 ..it has been that way for centuries. Lineage and marriage must be earned. Women have much to lose given the societal attitudes and shaming. Love was never a condition for marriage....until recently.
Ya’ll hear this crap! Single activities! WTH! So being in a relationship means isolation for women, she has to give up herself for him! I don’t need to listen to this whole video, I can tell these men aren’t for women, they are for themselves!
Okay we get it the black man doesn’t like the black woman nor his black mother nor his black sister we get it and see how it’s been displayed for years I encourage both parties to date outside their race if the opportunity presents itself especially the women RUN 🏃♀️
Because a lot of black women don't want to be in relationships with men they can't control and it's not trauma or anything it's just how they are in general they want to do whatever they want to but those who act like that have to deal with the consequences
This so crazy.... all I see and hear is him rooted and grounded in his trauma and insecurity. He can't even lead himself yet.... so how can he make these inflated and false statements... Please please go get some counseling and get your healing so that you can be the strong man that God created you to be. I am speaking from my submissiveness which I witnessed growing up.... watching and desiring to be submissive like the strong women that raised me. Women who literally stayed in the home and was totally fulfilled. I just don't see any great examples of men that raised me... It's not about all this fake talking with emptiness. Just be it... Do it... Live it.... I love that song....Humble... As a licensed mental health provider.... Baby shut down and be Humble.... in my own words...I really wish that they would go listen to themselves.... So egotistical and full of themselves.... So unattractive....
Men don’t leave because they don’t like filing the paperwork to leave, they rather stay a “leave mentally” if you know your partner “checked out” let him or her be free. Let the other person who has your attention gain ALL of your attention
@@ShanikaClayton-g7d I see you sticking to the new excuse I am hearing lately. Is there some kind of excuse email women get? You guys give the same one. It's amazing!!
WHY DO EVERY BLACK WOMEN LEAVE AFTER STAYING THRU BULLCRAP & ABUSE IN ALL FORMS!🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️😲😲 I NEVER LEFT A RELATIONSHIP BEVAUSE EVERYTHIBG WAS GOING SO SWELL AND FANTASTIC...U TALKING TO LIL GROWN BOYS NOT A FULL FLEDGED GROWN MAN! SO she supposed to stay abd deal with his crap and never petsue anything she desires to create for herself. That's crazy to think like this! Even if I had a billionaire man I'm still gonna create something for myself.
I'm not a red pill advocate but it seemed like a gross oversimplification of that community. I wonder what they, including the host would describe the decades of the Oprahs, talk shows, radio, tv media, and modern day female Tik-tok communities where men are always the problem.
@@PFlaw317yall would do better to bring up JerrySpringer or MauryPovich, bc Oprah was a show for mostly WW, check out her audiences post the mid 90’s. She did tons of celebrity interviews talked about losing weight and gave away cars. Men being the problem wasn’t even in the top 10 of topics in her talk show.
The problem with getting on a man's team is that a man (or any person) doesn't know everything. A person is capable of making bad decisions, and that could affect the entire family. His wife might have more knowledge and wisdom when it comes to a particular issue, and it's the husband's responsibility to rely on her wisdom. Also, there should never be a blind trust from either spouse. People are capable of lying and cheating or just making simple mistakes. There's nothing wrong with the other spouse backstopping and making sure that, for example, the mortgage and car insurance are paid.
I agree, I think it’s more about willingness to get on the same page as a collaborative effort. Mistakes are going to be made as a team and overcame as a team. No reason to play the blame game when the mission is to win together.
@@rochestergray4809 He clearly said he wants to lead, not work as a team. I think the question should be why he and so many other BM are so obsessed with leading, when you rarely hear men of other ethnicities and races be so obsessed with leading and submission.
@@mizzmolly7649 I took it as leading the initial direction of collaborative effort. In the sense of bringing the idea/plan and leading the discussion before the feedback. I don’t disagree with you on the whole submission focus, it’s definitely strange. They did touch on people imitating what they see from media since they don’t see it in their home.
I loved that you mentioned a women’s talents. Please expand on that. I feel like my talents are undermined in my relationship. That “how you say it” hit hard. The trauma of it all. I came from a two parent household, the seeds of being mailable were planted by my father. My significant other came from a family where the women headed the households, save his grandmother. I have found myself adopting their behaviors throughout our union. How can I address this?
I'd say read and study the Bible. Be prayerful. Learn to pray as a family. Go to church as a family. Your significant other needs God's word. It'll transform him like nothing else can. He needs a purpose that can only be found in God. A man with a purpose is a man worth fighting with.
It's sad to hear men go younger just because they want to mold someone. I believe any woman could be molded if they know the guy is not up any BS and has his stuff together! Its a difference being blind (young) vs. stupid
Not necessarily. Flip it around..women go after their married friends' husbands all the time, is that an indication that something is wrong with the wife or that she needs to 'level up'. Of course not. If they are in a serious relationship or marriage the man has already proved himself to the only person that matters..his woman. If the woman is not setting clear boundaries and allowing herself to be moved on by other men, or at worse entertaining it more than once or twice then its more of a poor reflection on her than her husband. Men will only respond to a woman's energy. Trust, if Beyonce or Savanna James comported themselves with a certain type of energy towards other men..those men would shoot their shot and wouldn't care if their husbands were Lebron James or Jay Z...
@@PFlaw317 You can't flip it around because women are motivated differently and move differently from men and vice versa. Also women do not go after their married friends' husbands all the time. You have no data to back this up so don't say it like it's a fact. Yes there are men who will leave their wives for another woman because there is something his wife is not providing. The issue isn't in the advance it's in whether he/she leaves. A lot of men will flirt with other women and even have sex with them and create families but don't have plans to actually leave their wife. Women don't typically do that in cases where their husband is faithful and loving. If a woman is at the point that they are interested in another man then they are on their way out the door.
I pose the same question for both sexes. It shows a lack of maturity and mutual respect of one’s self and their partner if there is even a minimal chance that someone could make advances and gain access into their relationship. It also demonstrates their are underlying issues within the individual and or the relationship itself that need to be resolved.
@@filmadcamp1512 we would believe this, if we didn’t have women posting proof of them leaving good husbands because they thought they could find “better” out into the world. A lot of women are in denial about how big of an impact social media has played on the average woman.
@@jericothompson8636 You don't have proof of women leaving "good" husbands. You have heard of women leaving husbands who YOU THINK are good. Eg - just because Tyrese's SECOND ex wife, came out and said she doesn't think he should have left.... it doesn't mean he was a good husband. Anyone can see he's off his rocker. He's now onto his third possible wife. And in a few years he'll be online crying about her leaving him as well. Social media has done the same thing to "average" woman as it has done to "average" man. It has average men feeling entitled to exceptional women. And the low tier men wanting access to the average women. And so now most are mad that average women are either not interested in, or MOVING ON from low value men.
A lot of men comment on women being from two parent households and thus don't know how to deal with or manage being with men. Are these men, making this type of commentary, coming from two parent households? Have they observed how men operate with women in the household?
A very intersesting discussion. So many good points mentioned, especially the point about black women replacing their husbands with their pastors in terms of who they submit to. Tasha, you asked some great questions!
Ty seem a little feminine..but I guess that's why yall woman enjoy what he has to say, but would never respect him or his type in a committed relationship. Some of you delusional woman are prime time comedy, real men don't even get bothered by your foolishness anymore.
I love that he said that men pick their based off of what other men think of them. Hence, they live their lives to impress other MEN!! They just need to be together.
It may sound childish, but it's not. I assure you. Universally, it's not about impressing other men, it's about earning or maintaining respect. Earning respect and impressing others are not the same thing.
@@NCL925 "want for me?" I don't think you can read quite well. In a society, a community to be precise, where you have interactions with other people on a daily basis, it's natural to want to be respected, and to respect others. I don't know what your situation is but being respectful and receiving respect is like the bare minimum when interacting with others. Amongst friends or colleagues however - people you know and who know you, and I mean men of substance, not boys. Because boys won't understand this - respect is earned. And I'm not talking about the bare minimum respect that you accord a neutral person. Imagine embarrassing yourself by associating with someone who has no self respect, who turns their disrespect on you to feel good about themselves. There are many ways this can be done, i.e., flaunting their naked body online. Except you've lived in isolation throughout your life that you have no inkling of societal interactions, which I hope is not the case for you, I'd say you're the one who's weird. Edit: there's a thin line between being proud of oneself - which promotes confidence and assuredness - and being arrogant. Good men learn not to cross that line into arrogance. But no matter what we do, people still mistake our pride in ourselves as arrogance. There's a difference.
@@NCL925 I never said I'm "choosing my partner based on what my homies say". I choose based on preferences that match my VALUES. VALUES, bro. I think that's the underlying factor you're missing. I have values that I grew up with, which have also helped to shape me and my mentality. Those values help me determine those I let into my circle and my preferences in a partner based on their character and personality (you said this in a line there). So my preferences depend on my values. Which is why I'll not hang out with people who roll a certain way. Our values shape us, bro. They create the foundation of who we are - our personalities. That being said, my friends will be people who think and act a certain way, mostly like me. Remember the phrase _"show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are"?_ And because of this, I will not get with a girl who's VALUES _(here's the word again)_ don't match up with mine. My family members would notice it if I do and my friends will notice it. And guess what, I lose respect from these people because of that. And all this is not to say that I'm choosing someone based on what they think. No, I'll naturally choose someone based on my preferences which are influenced by my values. Values that everyone around me will have. What others think come next but their thoughts or comments are not a deciding factor for making the choice. So because I wanna maintain the respect I have, I wouldn't associate with a girl that doesn't have values like mine, i.e., someone who's not family oriented. What you might be saying may be to not care what others say about your partner. Well, in the beginning stages of your relationship, these people - people who truly love me and want the best for me, who were raised with the same VALUES as me - will have an outsider's perspective of my partner and may see things I don't. This is how communities with strong moral values are formed and maintained for generations. *_Individualism really is just a form of the lack of family values and orientation._* Perspective matters, even someone else's. We aren't always right you know. And even if we are, it pays to see through someone else's eyes; walk a mile in their shoes as they say.
@@NCL925 I don't know you, and you don't know me. Therefore, I can only talk about me - not other men. And I'm also reading your words literally. When you say 'you', I assume you're talking about me. If you weren't talking 'to' me or 'about' me, then use 'they'. Sure, there are men out there that are heavily influenced by peer pressure. Just means many of them have no deep values they were brought up with or lack confidence in themselves. There might be a myriad reasons. And as to why I write dissertations 😎? I love to write. You should try it too. It'll help brush up your writing skills.
@@demoladigitalit's natural to be respected but half of the things y'all judge each other off of are shallow af. You can call it seeking respect. Still come off as seeking validation from other men from a woman's perspective. The fact that your boys opinion of you can shake you much is just.....very high school.
Tysean mentioned that successful corporate women neglect women...I totally disagree. If he's been around that kind of women, then I feel sorry. I'm currently at the top level of my career, and I'm desiring marriage and a family. People make time for who or what they love. Gotta have those conversations.
The lack of accountability and entitlement to her bad behavior, foul attitudes and vindictive toxic spite is the real elephant in the room. It's being avoided like a landmine. Men would rather be alone than sleep with an opp.
In regards to relationships, men and women need to be open to criticism, new ideas etc. In the 21st century, we should be at a point as Blacks that you can figure certain things out and come into a relationship or marriage with a certain realistic understanding and perspective! The whole man being the dominant entity in a home was based on the financial resources he provided and therefore sustained the home. That’s not the case today! Women and men are bringing resources to home and now things need to be balanced and it has redefined the Black Household! When you fight against, you (women and men) will continue to have challenges in dating or marriage!
My thing is too many generalizations are made on a very large group of women under the label, black women.You cannot judge many by a few.We All have alot to learn as a people.
All of this sound crazy to be honest .... no one want to be controlled by another... Love respect, loyalty, friendship great conversations and trust... Men want to be respected, women want to be heard and have a scence of loyalty in the relationship.
It's not about men always being the leader. It's about partnership. One should not be the leader of the other. But each should lead in their areas of expertise. It should be a respectful, EQUAL partnership where each partner respects the abilities of the other. Respect, respect, respect. Love starts out as a feeling, and then for the rest of our lives it is a decision. Biblical roles have no place in the 21st century. They are destructive. Believe me. I tried to live like that, and it was toxic.
Keke Palmer is a very bad example. Keke is the bread winner for her family. Ciara is married and has done similar things and her husband loved his wife right through it! It’s very unfair.
These people are so young that they have no idea about women at all. All women are malleable to the right man. A woman’s malleability is in his aura and in his spirit! A man who is a real man and he shows up to you he disarms anything a man would find disconcerting about her. I am listening to these two and if they come with that to a relationship they will be divorced within 2 years and I am speaking facts.
38 to 40 minute mark. Redpill. This community is not confused about anything. The decision has been made to not be a SIMP. To hold women accountable for their bad behavior and choices in life. Full ✋️ stop.
I agree redpill is needed for some men...everybody path isn't the same...if you just read comments other than listen to the podcast you're going to Have a negative opinion...never read the comments
I feel like i be being hard on Ryan but I have a lot of respect and hope for his growth especially since that TG episode! but he really gotta take his own advice. he gives a lot of advice but not in a relationship. you can’t talk about there’s a space for red pill in one breath and in the very next breath tell ladies to be careful what they consume lol
I hope Ryan doesn’t still have this mindset. Because the men with integrity, and are high achievers, and also handsome, don’t talk like this! They respect their women, and recognize that the relationship is about purpose, and team work. We worship ALMIGHTY GOD! Not a partner!
Women want a man to lead. A woman will only follow a man they respect. The man usually comes with age, experience, knowledge and wisdom. Being an older man is not a pre-requisition to having those qualities, however it’s a base starting point
Men bend to women a lot in relationships but the few times we try to get yall together you feel oppressed!! I’m good on it! It’s to the point now that I make suggestions and if she doesn’t follow through I’m good on her!
Out of everything they talked about on this podcast, what stands out to me the most is that these two intelligent successful brothers are single. Like we are living in a world where these brothers can't find someone special!?! Just think about that. And, I do not feel they are looking for a Vanessa Williams or Tyra Banks. I know they don't have trouble dating, but I feel the truth is the type of women they want is slim, and also a lot of women would rather be single then adapt to their preferences of "wifey material."
you can lead/coach an older woman too just can’t lead them anywhere bc they bn there some that. sis don’t fold and say his comment made sense. hold him to the fire!
A team has offensive coach wife & a defensive coach husband they have to work together for the the team to win smh leader means there's a follower the problem is men don't value women's opinions or ideas
This is a ridiculous topic. I don’t think black woman in this generation give a crap at least I nor the woman in my family don’t. I guess that’s why my sister found a white husband. All I know is when the so called system comes after you black men unjustly I’ll be sipping my water and minding my business.
Darius was wrong for dating with Keke in the first place... Keke is Bi.... How the h... Do u think as a man that u can handle that situation all the more that she's a successful lady, she been bi for at least 2 years way before meeting him.... And now he has a kid with her.... It's just a mess... But hey, he's a grown man right...
At this time in her life, I don't see any man capable of "handling" keke...she's a lot... but she's living life on her terms AND she has the right to do just that ❤
@@focused0002 "handling" coz there ain't no other term that could express better any other way of interacting with her... And of course she has the right BUT no man should deal with her unless he's Bi himself.
Can we agree that not having healthy two parent homes impacts men and women in negative ways in relationships? It definitely has an impact on women that makes us hyper independent and it leaves men with a caricature of what being a loving husband and leader is vs a real lived out example.
Absolutely. However, don't overlook the amount of "unhealthy 2-parent homes"! Which is a huge underestimated problem as well for men and women!!!
@@gabriellew.4847 So the solution is to keep pumping out unparented kids outside of wedlock with numerous fathers? That's a death sentence for the child, not the parents. Your government knows that which is why the government uses black female faces and voices on the media to fashion your thinking in this matter. The target isn't black men or women but the black nuclear family.
My thoughts exactly. Thank you.
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oh I agree alright. I agree that the family unit's done for, I agree that society's burning and with it morals, principles and tradition, I agree that even if we (as a collective) wanted to fix this; remove no fault divorce, make false allegation a crime or even illegalize abortion again, sadly it won't, because this world is broken beyond repair.
As a person who has studied the 200,000 year history of black people, this panel has a LOT of study they need to before they can talk.
Would you mind sharing some? Maybe some points that weren't talked about in this video that might be vital information.
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I have to go back to get to where we are now. I listen to people talk and I do not think people know who we really are. How important our story is to all of humanity.
What concerns me is that I can (using mainstream academic resources) place the origins of modern humanity to Southeastern Africa about 200,000 years ago. And even before that, before there was homo sapiens sapiens, we had already cultivated the use and control of fire (500,000 years ago) we created the ax (250,000 years ago) We created the bow and arrow (75,000 years ago) around the same time when created the earliest human art (South Africa), and there were five other humanoid species populating the planet, we defeated all of them to become the dominant species on Earth. In fact, for the first 150,000 of humanity, there were nothing but Africans, all of humanity traces their ancestry back to a group of African grandmothers (traced through mitochondrial DNA).
The Ishango and Lebombo traces our creation of mathematics to between 20-35 thousand years ago (they are stored in the natural history museum in Belgium). From the Dhars in Mauritania to Eredo in Nigeria, we have numerous examples of ancient cities we built throughout the continent of Africa. We never needed to argue over Egypt.
How can a people who know only a FRACTION of their past claim to know who they are?
In the United States, the Red Summer (which can even be found in Wikipedia) highlights a series of massacres, which happened from Chicago to Detroit to New Orleans to Tulsa to Winston-Salem and dozens of other cities across America (primarily over a year and a half period). These acts were a response to the fact skilled former slaves were able to create economic districts throughout America in which they outpaced their white peers during the period of Reconstruction. We called these areas BLACK WALLSTREET. Thousands were killed (black people at the time said that white racists attempted to significantly lower the numbers). Millions in property and innovations were destroyed or stolen. Many brilliant and bold black men were targeted and assassinated.
And then the racists walked away and just got away with it. This turned our community inside out. This is the trauma that broke the camel's back, if you will. This is the birthplace of Jim Crow and similar programs in the North as well as the West. The period of racism was designed to suppress economic competition, under threat of violence (lynching and other extra-judicial murders). Protecting racial purity was used a point of social manipulation. Forcing black men out of the capitalist path was the deeper goal.
This was the shift. This is the trauma we struggle with now. When these people were allowed to come into our neighborhoods and get away with this, it gave birth to the conscious which ultimately lead to the ghetto bullshit we see today. When young black men, in their youthful desire for success and influence, could not participate in the larger system more and more black men turned to "alternative" economies (aka Hustles) to survive. When Malcolm and Martin and Medgar were murdered, the Civil Rights Movement was in shambles and a powerful wave of nihilism set into our people. We had been known for taking care of the little that we had until we let our communities fall into chaos and disrepair.
This is the dark trajectory that we are still traveling now. Without historical knowledge, we are fighting with the wind. Here's what the average person knows, they know there was Movement during the 60's, they know that we were slaves for hundreds of years. So, if I am being generous, maybe, they have a limited understanding of the last couple hundred years of the last 200,000 of our story. That is not even one percent. Think about that.
I don't see alpha males. I don't see boss bitches. All I hear is bluster and false bravado. I see multi-generational trauma. I see bold talking people who mostly sound rudderless and shallow. This doesn't mean that I don't appreciate that people are trying but we have yet to ever have any serious dialogue. Throughout the history of the world, one of the most serious warnings that previous generations have leveled to the future has been completely consistent. Forget your history and you may be forced to repeat it.
And they are out banishing and burning books about our history. I only hope we can get serious one day.
@@johncalhoun916thank for this response. This inspired me to dig deeper in the knowledge data base
Thank you!
It’s only 7 minutes in n in tf tired ! Lol
Same...
I could't make it past 60 seconds
And these women will swear up and down there are good men! They’re saying women are supposed to protect these men and bs for the sake of his family! This is a load of crap!
That’s the hyena mindset
My ex used to constantly give guidance regarding what I should do, which used to drive me crazy. Truthfully, sometimes I miss it. I'm tired of making so many decisions. I now recognize that he was protecting me, but I didn't feel like I needed so much oversight.
So your a discipline problem ❓️
I totally understand what you mean a lot of times men want to just take over and it goes from you being able say ‘Okay he is taking the lead nice!’ into he is controlling or acting more like a parent to me than a partner. The difference between a man who can lead and can’t can be those smaller details that are important.
Who left? You or him. If you, was this the reason why? If him, why did he leave?
Just curious is all
@@favordog201112 No one's perfect. But even at that. This situation you're talking about is something that can be fixed with a conversation.
Both parties need the assurance that they are still loved in the relationship. The woman needs to communicate that she doesn't like how he gives his guidance, i.e., he's too forceful or treats her like a child.
The man needs to listen to her frustrations even when he can't make heads or tails of it. Jordan Peterson said it best: your woman may not immediately pinpoint the problem, so give her the leeway to let it all out.
As men, it's our responsibility to listen and make adjustments when our significant other complains about these little things. It can help better us as people.
The woman in the situation above should also give her significant other the chance to say some words. Sometimes he might need to think through what to say and how to say it. Don't be in a hurry to butt in when he's quiet and thinking. Let him process your words because your words will come with a lot of emotions.
If at all he doesn't talk, he might end up holding you to affirm his love. Don't take it that he doesn't care. He's letting his silence and actions (in this case, holding you) speak for him.
If he does talk (and he may not talk much), listen to what he has to say.
Listening is much harder than speaking. But if you can train yourself to do it. You'll be a better person for it.
@@favordog201112if you can’t decipher clear leadership from someone attempting to control you, that may be an ego issue.
I’ll put an end to all the misunderstandings. Men, pick women that you equally yoked. As an adult , educated, self-sufficient woman, I do not need instruction from my partner regarding my role in any relationship. We have to work as a partnership.
If you can't respect the man as the leader, then you'll never get a solid man that's a provider. Considering that you're middle aged, you'll always be stuck in your ways, and think that it's the men who are the issue 👍🏽👍🏽
It's not a partnership we men are not your friend can you give him counsel and see what he can't see and the last say is his
That is why you will never be a wife
@@ga9100 Good luck with that. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, if you know how to be a lady in a relationship, if you know how to defer to the man as the leader in the relationship, you're good.
Your man himself won't be perfect. There'd be things he'd like to learn from you too.
A partnership like what you want would still need someone in the leading role. This may not be very significant at the beginning but as said relationship progresses, there'll be a clear line as to who's leading and who's following.
Relationships aren't jobs even if we make comparisons and examples. For one, we are more emotionally invested in it. So we shouldn't be in competition with our significant other. In fact, relaxing in your feminine energy will let you as a woman see if the man you're with can truly lead.
Both of these men are players they say this on their podcast why the hell do they have a relationship podcast?
On gang I feel as though they do the relationship podcast for clout and money as well I just like the people that they bring to there show that bring valuable lessons advice and content and conversation they are definitely not people I fully trust want a relationship let alone a woman
hellooooooooo
@@rashionnamerritt6811 i’m so glad i’m not the only one who sees this ! it’s so obvious they are not into women at all ! These are gay men in atlanta… shit wild asff bruhhh
I possibly was too old to even watch. But I did... these young men have a lot to learn about women. I'm 45 and everyone on this panel has a lot to learn. I am a business owner, a mom and been a wife and pouring energy into us as women is done enough.
I feel the same. So glad you said that. I always feel that they blame women for bad picks instead of the poor quality and behavior of Men. And how much do Men need to be affirmed? And what they're really saying. I want a wife or gf to build my life with and she needs to be coach able and in alignment. She needs to stroke their ego and support them to deal with the challenges of life. I get that part but they are from this younger generation. Still no clue.
"been a wife"...not married. women pick men. they need to pick better.
@rebeccarobinson2547 Bad men will always exist. There is nothing men, in general, can do about this, so it's ALL up to a woman to vet who she has children with and preferably it should be with her husband.
You BEEN a Wife so what is there to learn ?!
@KidRipable there is always something too learn on every level in life. Forever a student ... thats how you get wise. And you proved my point exactly with that question
Stop the hatred of black women!! Please read the article by Ben Horwitz: Black women are for grown-ups!! We are not for little boys who need a mama!! Please learn about love and loyalty!!
Agreed starting with BW stop hating themselves
Just looked at the title and immediately felt embarrassed as always no other race does this
There's a whole Manosphere and online feminist spaces where other races do worse than this
Dat part! Only in our community...sad asf
@@Zedecrem54321 sooo humiliating they must laugh at us
Because yal are too afraid of truths, yal are stuck in your cowardly ways. Prayers 🙏🏾
@@austindahn7037 who is afraid of truth? the internet keep saying the “truths” everyday
Violence wasn't a 'big part' of Malcolm's X message..*logic* was. Malcolm understood that the enemy only understands & recognizes money & violence (violence especially). He recognized that there was no discernable difference between the so called white liberal & conservative. His message/mentality for liberation was by any means necessary, but not necessarily violence. He knew that singing old Negro spirituals from the enemy's religion while getting beaten up wasn't going to get us very far (and it hasn't)
Some times I think 🤔 if MLK and Malcom was alive today to witness our culture and history what they fight so hard for 😩 what would they say about Men of Color on live and Black Woman 💯😉
As a woman that had been married and back on the dating scene I've learned that men have similar rules! Listening is huge among so many other factors. but I also learned that some men can be very bitter after a breakup with a woman they valued, and the next women can suffer from what I believed is insecurities from the last breakup, due to not being properly healed. I believe just like women should be accountable, some men don’t know what accountability is? A relationship is being vulnerable to the one you love, respecting, protecting the one you love and most don’t know how that look like. And most men as women do not like to receive criticism, but quick to criticize.
Very true 🎯🎯🎯
43y Grown Man. What I know is women don't need protecting. They need to know they are safe with you with no drama.
Exactly!! I need to be able to know it's ok to be myself and vulnerable around my man I need to know I'm safe alone at home with no one else around with my man 🤷♀️ FACTS
This!
a grown man response.
Thank you for recognising and verbalising this. We are generally good. Continue to keep us safe and in the feminine. That's it.
Women can't live without drama. If they don't find it with you, they will create it.
Ryan's is not mentally mature in his communication. He's not willing to have a woman who challenges him. There's no growth and expansion in that way of thinking. Women don't need INSTRUCTIONS. They need support and effective communication.
Exactly. I'm like, is he hearing himself?
Vice versa. Brothas should have a voice as well.
I don't always agree with small wonder(Ryan)😂😂 but in his defense,men don't need a woman to challenge them, they get enough of that when they walk outside the door everyday by the world, we need a woman to challenge the world together, not challenge each other, be a help meet, not a discouragement to us.
@@mistahjay8598 Why would a man with money put up with an American woman who challenges him, when he can travel to Brazil and other places to get a more attractive, more fit, younger woman who follows his lead? Since I discovered Brazilian women I don't deal with American women at all. We are in a global market for black people seeking relationships American women demand the most, offer the least, and are the least pleasant to be with.
In the woman's perspective you are correct, not in ours. And that's a whole point of this discussion. Women don't understand how men move
A man’s provision is a blessing, I love feeling cared for, protected and guided by my man. I wouldn’t want it any other way, my man should lead and I will follow happily because I trust him and God trusts him :)
Operative word. Trust.
Ryan had me a little nervous when he started but by the end, I feel like he is a solid dude. So nice to see you guys on the other side of the table. Tyshawn looks toooo good! 😋
Uhhhh...mid 20's is younger women. She cant cooperate on a high level if she doesnt have much life experience. He's afraid of a seasoned woman
You know what…I continued to listen out of respect of the artistry of content creators and seeing the Hardly Initiated guys that I have respected in the past got me excited…but this ain’t it. The longer I listen the more I lament the words I hear. Mentioning “escapism” for single black females when it comes to working to be a better version of yourself while single is wild. What exactly should we be doing? An educated woman does not mean that woman doesn’t want a healthy relationship or is led to emasculate a man. The subtle arrogance and double talk is definitely confusing…but then you praised Kevin Samuels and confused me even more. KS was certainly bold and controversial and pioneered this type talk…but he just ain’t the standard. I hope with all the expected devotion, that men will reciprocate in kind as the leader should. Clarity is the kindest information you can give.
A single BW shouldn’t waste another day listening to any of this. If she desires a husband she should go to the men who marry the most and provides the most - hint it’s not blak men. Life is too short for this nonsense. You will look up and be 60 years old waiting on some BM to pick you. This isn’t it.
I enjoyed the show, however, I took serious issue with the fact that the gentleman said they cannot date a woman trying to climb the corporate ladder. Women that are in business for themselves, or trying to reach professional goals deserve love too. And if we are all honest, we know that women have started to be more aggressive in work and business because they’ve seen too many of their mothers, sisters, cousins and aunts suffering financially when the man has walked out on them. Or they have experienced it firsthand themselves when they were left stuck with the children to raise by themselves. Over the last decade or two, women becoming successful entrepreneurs happened more so out of a need Than anything else. We were also put on the back burner, while black man pursued every other race or skin tone opposite of us so the opportunity to delve into a career was easy. But that does not mean that black women don’t deserve to be loved or protected by a man that is willing to die for her!! It’s kind of sad to suggest that a black woman should reverse the trajectory of her successes in hopes to get a man!! Because if we go back even decades further we’d realize that before women started climbing these corporate ladders, they still didn’t get the love, dedication, and protection from their boyfriends and husbands that they deserved. I think it’s easy for the gentlemen on this show (whom I do still admire) to make such a comment because maybe they don’t have daughters of their own yet. But once they have a daughter and their daughter starts to become of age, and they love that daughter… then they will begin to see how difficult it is for their daughter to find a man deserving of her. Then likely those same men would dare not tell his daughter to lessen herself or stifle her potential in hopes that some man will come along and feel like she is datable’ 💯
On another note, the career woman deserves all the promises of riches and glory that God gave, just like the man. So, who are they to try to deny a woman Gods promise for them? That’s just something else to think about!
I wonder what they'd have to say about the Proverbs 31 woman. She handled her business at home and in business.
Im in my sixties and grew up in a "traditional" home. Those stay at home wives/mothers did not have it easier than we did and they were DEFINITELY not treated better. Those men/husbands did whatever they wanted and MOST of them took no thought what so ever to how their behaviour and choices affected their families. Their so called "leadership" only benefited their needs, wants and desires and those women had to go along with it because they were raised to be "submissive" to their husbands and had very little choices available to them to be independent of their abuse, neglect and control. You name it, those men were doing it.
I made up my mind even as a child that I wasnt going to live like that. I got all kinds of negativity and harassment from the women I grew up around, but i didn't care and was going to live my life, my way and yes, im married. 38 years and my husband knows that the only man I have to answer to, is the one that created me. He respects me as I do him.
@@jdavis6727 the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31 was her own boss. She wasn't climbing a cooperate ladder working for someone else.
That's why she can have the time to care for her home and children.
Ryan and Tysean specifically talked about the the corporate woman. And asking Google the meaning of 'the corporate woman' gives the Cambridge definition of a businesswoman - a woman who works in business, especially one who has a high position in a company.
So you see, they're not saying they can't date women who have their own thing going for them, i.e., skills, entrepreneurship, etc. they're say they can't date women who slave their time away for a company.
I was very disappointed when they said those comments about women climbing the corporate ladder.
You can be a great business person, but not be a good wife. You can give birth, and not be a good mother. Financial and academic success doesn’t always guarantee that you are a good woman, nor does a man’s height guarantee that he would be a good husband or boyfriend. Statistically the more money a woman makes the more selective she becomes. The phrase we hear in the dating sector is my man has to make more money than me. Only 18% of men make $100,000, that means that those women are writing off 82% of men. There are not enough of those men around to meet the needs of this selective group of women. A man has no problem dating below his socioeconomic status. Hopefully this helps you.
Very natural and mature conversation . no unnecessary disruption , no screaming or overtalking and also great talking points in general just good to listen to ! thanks guys
A @HardlyInitiated Legendary subscriber supporting @Ryan and @Ty in this interview. We don't just #Speak support we #PopBottles 🍾🎉🤑
A man should be able to take his woman to any occasion and feel confident that he will represent them with respect and dignity. A real woman is able to maintain her dignity in situation. You Never Know Who Is Watching. Whose life will be changed by Her Light.
Love watching these two gentlemen grow and prosper! Keep doing yall thing!
Love this dialogue and differing opinions
I must say this: many women today have a some bad past relationship experience and they are not aware that they became also negative to men. And because of that, they can be unpleasant and rude to men. But.... even that kind of woman will on average have a positive response to nice man behavior.
Problem (beside women who did not heal) is lack men of good behavior.
Ego of todays man is too... too big. They only thought about himself, in relationship especially. And this is for us women BIG turn off.
As a woman, I look at little things someone does...because, this is sign how a man will behave in big situation.
Few days ago, I was going to pay my parking ticket. I was few steps to parking automat (no one was there) and all of a sudden out of nowhere, came this guy in his early/mid 30ties flew in on this parking machine through me and paid his ticket. When he was done, he turn around look at me and just go like nothings happened.
I said in my head: Ok, this guy was probably in hurry, and I go to pay my ticket.
Then again, guy behind me also take my turn and paid his ticket. Then I turn around and see one more guy who was standing behind us... I look at him, took my step beside and let him to pay his ticket. I was standing there with my money and ticket.
2 guys are pushed through me to pay ticket and the last one I gave him my turn. I did not want to say anything to them because I dont know what to cause a drama. But I thought to myself...If I was like this guys push myself through others or said something, I will turned out like a angry woman who hates men.
Today's men do not have the patience to wait their turn, let alone be or invest in a deep relationship such as a relationship or marriage.
Shame
Problem is Swag. And Capacity for aggression. Are more important to women than how a man treats her.
So men who want seX mimic those behaviors. Because that's who you all have sex with.
The minute you all start prioritizing and promoting the sexual desiribility of the other types of guys. Men will mimic those behaviors.
You all dictate what traits men try to embody, by who you have sex with.
Ma'am your experience was unfortunate but I think how you handled it says alot about you(all good thing btw).
The the funniest part of your comment is if you wrote man where you wrote women and vice versa most men would think comment 100% valid as I'm sure most women feel the comment is valid as is
@@calvintabb Sorry, but I dont understand your point.
I can also write about good things that I experience with men (there were a lot of them)
My point is that that good (everyday) experience with men are mostly gone, because men are changed.
Before, guys were doing everything that a woman (even a strange woman) feel good. Today, men are only thinking about them self.
This is not a rant, just me observing.
Dont go turn over what women are doing, because this topic is about men.
Ryan was an all star in this conversation. 🏆 Good job, sir!
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For Ryan to say he wants a woman who trusts and that’s his problem and not look on the mirror and say “why don’t i make these women comfortable enough to trust in me” speaks volumes. His conversation shows he doesn’t warrant trust yet but he thinks it’s the lady’s problem if they don’t blindly trust him. yeah go get you a young girl playa. still luv u guys though ❤
True but many women(and men) have been burned enough times to where their ability to trust is broken - they are now hyper focused on every little flaw someone might have and look for reasons not to trust them. A lot of jaded and defensive folks out there
Great interview with Tysean and Ryan. Always good to hear balanced perspectives.
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Love and relationships are too overly politicized. All of the ‘what men and women should and shouldn’t do’ relationship conversations are bs. Find someone you are compatible with, that you love and respect and focus on loving each other every single day. Silence the outside noise, silence people who want to negatively project on you and yours and find yourself some peace. Husbands and wives submit themselves to one another. Stop trying to mold and control and learn how to maturely relate to another human being. The end
Respectfully, changing the title will catapult the views & subscribers. Some comments under this video were made by some who saw the title & made judgement without even viewing the content. These men love black women btw. This was excellent dialogue 💕
If they aren’t married to a BW at their big ages they don’t really love BW. This is just more foolishness.
Awesome interview Ryan and Ty!
Absolutely show up representing your
Man on all occasions!
I find young twentysomething women to be extremely headstrong and LESS open to guidance and advice. It is only when they get older and get wise to their flaws and shortcomings do they get open to masculine leadership and guidance.
Interesting. Men usually think it's the other way around.
As a divorced woman that just turned 40, I totally agree with this. I’m just starting to learn the value of being led and allowing myself to fulfill my role, which is not being the leader. It feels great!
You’re correct, sadly it’s usually after they’ve accumulated a lot of baggage and trauma.
Yall can't even lead yourselves out of being conquered by other races of men on all continents. Please stfu.
I think there is truth in this. I think younger people in general don’t like to listen to anyone and with maturity most do better and learn.
You all did an excellent job with this interview. Start to finish!
I really enjoyed this.. Love Ryan and Ty 🤎
I personally single handed blames Kevin Samuels for the gender wars. He literally went viral and cause all this divisiveness in the black community yet y’all praise him😒😒😒foh
Black women made Kevin Samuels possible!
I think he opened the eyes of a lot of men that didn’t know their worth. 🤷🏾♂️
@davidconover2652 no black women was minding their business before they got attack. he wasn't going viral when he was bashing men because women didn't care. Men made him viral once he start bashing women.
@@BigbossBonita actually, he became famous when a black woman asked for his consultation the same way black men did, and he gave her the same energy. She didn’t take it well, like most women wouldn’t, and it went viral. NOBODY ATTACKED YOU. She asked for his opinion and he gave it. If she wanted somebody to kiss her ass she picked the wrong dude 🤷🏾♂️
Chrissie, Paris Milan, Cynthia G. All was out before Kevin Samuels blew up. Cut it out with the delusions already
I don't know about everybody else, but I heard some preaching on this episode...this was great! Thank you.❤
I felt this in my soul.
Emotional Mature ❤ and some people will NEVER grow if they can’t grow up and open up within THEMSELVES 💯💯💯 I personal will always love a BLACK MAN, and not because I’m BLACK 🇺🇸🇧🇧
So....women are trophies in the games of men. ...got it! Ladies. ..know your value and add tax.
And then add tax on the tax ! Tf ! Lol
And women are very transactional
Not even a little, trophies are new, most yall are used up
Tyrese said it best in his new song, love transaction, life really does imitate art. a woman's love is contingent upon what's provided and how much is provided.
@mistahjay8598 ..it has been that way for centuries. Lineage and marriage must be earned. Women have much to lose given the societal attitudes and shaming. Love was never a condition for marriage....until recently.
Ya’ll hear this crap! Single activities! WTH! So being in a relationship means isolation for women, she has to give up herself for him! I don’t need to listen to this whole video, I can tell these men aren’t for women, they are for themselves!
You didnt hear a single wordl
you can have excuses or results! well said Tysean
Okay we get it the black man doesn’t like the black woman nor his black mother nor his black sister we get it and see how it’s been displayed for years I encourage both parties to date outside their race if the opportunity presents itself especially the women RUN 🏃♀️
Because a lot of black women don't want to be in relationships with men they can't control and it's not trauma or anything it's just how they are in general they want to do whatever they want to but those who act like that have to deal with the consequences
Yes he is right I learned to let. But always tomorrow to do better..grind on.Following David Goings and these men advice....
This so crazy.... all I see and hear is him rooted and grounded in his trauma and insecurity. He can't even lead himself yet.... so how can he make these inflated and false statements... Please please go get some counseling and get your healing so that you can be the strong man that God created you to be. I am speaking from my submissiveness which I witnessed growing up.... watching and desiring to be submissive like the strong women that raised me. Women who literally stayed in the home and was totally fulfilled. I just don't see any great examples of men that raised me... It's not about all this fake talking with emptiness. Just be it... Do it... Live it.... I love that song....Humble... As a licensed mental health provider.... Baby shut down and be Humble.... in my own words...I really wish that they would go listen to themselves.... So egotistical and full of themselves.... So unattractive....
Take the advice for yourself grandma 👵
@@orlandojouavel1846you sound like a 4th grader bullying girls are on the playground ...🤦🏾♀️
I like Tisean. He is good with his words and tone. Although Ryan has demonstrated growth, still giving him the side eye....
Men don't leave. Black Women leave by documented and factual prove 80-90% of all relationships and marriages. The problem isn't men leaving!!!!!
Men don’t leave because they don’t like filing the paperwork to leave, they rather stay a “leave mentally” if you know your partner “checked out” let him or her be free. Let the other person who has your attention gain ALL of your attention
@@ShanikaClayton-g7d I see you sticking to the new excuse I am hearing lately. Is there some kind of excuse email women get? You guys give the same one. It's amazing!!
WHY DO EVERY BLACK WOMEN LEAVE AFTER STAYING THRU BULLCRAP & ABUSE IN ALL FORMS!🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️😲😲
I NEVER LEFT A RELATIONSHIP BEVAUSE EVERYTHIBG WAS GOING SO SWELL AND FANTASTIC...U TALKING TO LIL GROWN BOYS NOT A FULL FLEDGED GROWN MAN!
SO she supposed to stay abd deal with his crap and never petsue anything she desires to create for herself.
That's crazy to think like this!
Even if I had a billionaire man I'm still gonna create something for myself.
@@bishopt1”their” is possessive, it doesn’t make sense that you commented “is THEIR”, you should’ve used ‘there’ instead.
Why are they leaving? Is the bigger question. Typically they are UNHAPPY. Why
The Red Pill comments...very interesting 🤔
The red pill is the way. Stay militant fellas. The red pill works and brings results.
@@Pandering_equalsmoneyTonk Gaskin is a definite simp.
@@madant22 💯
I'm not a red pill advocate but it seemed like a gross oversimplification of that community. I wonder what they, including the host would describe the decades of the Oprahs, talk shows, radio, tv media, and modern day female Tik-tok communities where men are always the problem.
@@PFlaw317yall would do better to bring up JerrySpringer or MauryPovich, bc Oprah was a show for mostly WW, check out her audiences post the mid 90’s. She did tons of celebrity interviews talked about losing weight and gave away cars. Men being the problem wasn’t even in the top 10 of topics in her talk show.
I love the wisdom and growth Ryan and Ty have shown on this pdcast!
The problem with getting on a man's team is that a man (or any person) doesn't know everything. A person is capable of making bad decisions, and that could affect the entire family. His wife might have more knowledge and wisdom when it comes to a particular issue, and it's the husband's responsibility to rely on her wisdom.
Also, there should never be a blind trust from either spouse. People are capable of lying and cheating or just making simple mistakes. There's nothing wrong with the other spouse backstopping and making sure that, for example, the mortgage and car insurance are paid.
Receiving advice and support is far different from being bossed around and disrespected.
I agree, I think it’s more about willingness to get on the same page as a collaborative effort. Mistakes are going to be made as a team and overcame as a team. No reason to play the blame game when the mission is to win together.
@@rochestergray4809 He clearly said he wants to lead, not work as a team.
I think the question should be why he and so many other BM are so obsessed with leading, when you rarely hear men of other ethnicities and races be so obsessed with leading and submission.
@@mizzmolly7649 Actually a piece of true leadership is working as a team.
@@mizzmolly7649 I took it as leading the initial direction of collaborative effort. In the sense of bringing the idea/plan and leading the discussion before the feedback. I don’t disagree with you on the whole submission focus, it’s definitely strange. They did touch on people imitating what they see from media since they don’t see it in their home.
I loved that you mentioned a women’s talents. Please expand on that. I feel like my talents are undermined in my relationship. That “how you say it” hit hard. The trauma of it all. I came from a two parent household, the seeds of being mailable were planted by my father. My significant other came from a family where the women headed the households, save his grandmother. I have found myself adopting their behaviors throughout our union. How can I address this?
I'd say read and study the Bible. Be prayerful. Learn to pray as a family.
Go to church as a family. Your significant other needs God's word. It'll transform him like nothing else can.
He needs a purpose that can only be found in God. A man with a purpose is a man worth fighting with.
It's sad to hear men go younger just because they want to mold someone. I believe any woman could be molded if they know the guy is not up any BS and has his stuff together! Its a difference being blind (young) vs. stupid
If a man’s girlfriend or wife is getting advances from men in his friend group, would it not be an indication of him needing to level up?
Not necessarily. Flip it around..women go after their married friends' husbands all the time, is that an indication that something is wrong with the wife or that she needs to 'level up'. Of course not. If they are in a serious relationship or marriage the man has already proved himself to the only person that matters..his woman. If the woman is not setting clear boundaries and allowing herself to be moved on by other men, or at worse entertaining it more than once or twice then its more of a poor reflection on her than her husband. Men will only respond to a woman's energy. Trust, if Beyonce or Savanna James comported themselves with a certain type of energy towards other men..those men would shoot their shot and wouldn't care if their husbands were Lebron James or Jay Z...
@@PFlaw317 You can't flip it around because women are motivated differently and move differently from men and vice versa. Also women do not go after their married friends' husbands all the time. You have no data to back this up so don't say it like it's a fact.
Yes there are men who will leave their wives for another woman because there is something his wife is not providing. The issue isn't in the advance it's in whether he/she leaves. A lot of men will flirt with other women and even have sex with them and create families but don't have plans to actually leave their wife. Women don't typically do that in cases where their husband is faithful and loving. If a woman is at the point that they are interested in another man then they are on their way out the door.
I pose the same question for both sexes. It shows a lack of maturity and mutual respect of one’s self and their partner if there is even a minimal chance that someone could make advances and gain access into their relationship. It also demonstrates their are underlying issues within the individual and or the relationship itself that need to be resolved.
@@filmadcamp1512 we would believe this, if we didn’t have women posting proof of them leaving good husbands because they thought they could find “better” out into the world. A lot of women are in denial about how big of an impact social media has played on the average woman.
@@jericothompson8636 You don't have proof of women leaving "good" husbands. You have heard of women leaving husbands who YOU THINK are good. Eg - just because Tyrese's SECOND ex wife, came out and said she doesn't think he should have left.... it doesn't mean he was a good husband. Anyone can see he's off his rocker. He's now onto his third possible wife. And in a few years he'll be online crying about her leaving him as well.
Social media has done the same thing to "average" woman as it has done to "average" man. It has average men feeling entitled to exceptional women. And the low tier men wanting access to the average women. And so now most are mad that average women are either not interested in, or MOVING ON from low value men.
A lot of men comment on women being from two parent households and thus don't know how to deal with or manage being with men. Are these men, making this type of commentary, coming from two parent households? Have they observed how men operate with women in the household?
A very intersesting discussion. So many good points mentioned, especially the point about black women replacing their husbands with their pastors in terms of who they submit to. Tasha, you asked some great questions!
I love an respect these men so much they have minds of their own an don’t follow the trend . Why are men pants 👖 so tight nowadays 😮😩🤯
Just pick your head up and just look them there eyes!!! LOL!
Ummm your first and second sentence have no relation to each other. At all.
Tysean, beautiful counsel at the very end of the podcast. Thank you.
Ty seem a little feminine..but I guess that's why yall woman enjoy what he has to say, but would never respect him or his type in a committed relationship. Some of you delusional woman are prime time comedy, real men don't even get bothered by your foolishness anymore.
I love that he said that men pick their based off of what other men think of them. Hence, they live their lives to impress other MEN!! They just need to be together.
It may sound childish, but it's not. I assure you.
Universally, it's not about impressing other men, it's about earning or maintaining respect. Earning respect and impressing others are not the same thing.
@@NCL925 "want for me?" I don't think you can read quite well.
In a society, a community to be precise, where you have interactions with other people on a daily basis, it's natural to want to be respected, and to respect others.
I don't know what your situation is but being respectful and receiving respect is like the bare minimum when interacting with others.
Amongst friends or colleagues however - people you know and who know you, and I mean men of substance, not boys. Because boys won't understand this - respect is earned. And I'm not talking about the bare minimum respect that you accord a neutral person.
Imagine embarrassing yourself by associating with someone who has no self respect, who turns their disrespect on you to feel good about themselves. There are many ways this can be done, i.e., flaunting their naked body online.
Except you've lived in isolation throughout your life that you have no inkling of societal interactions, which I hope is not the case for you, I'd say you're the one who's weird.
Edit: there's a thin line between being proud of oneself - which promotes confidence and assuredness - and being arrogant. Good men learn not to cross that line into arrogance. But no matter what we do, people still mistake our pride in ourselves as arrogance. There's a difference.
@@NCL925 I never said I'm "choosing my partner based on what my homies say". I choose based on preferences that match my VALUES.
VALUES, bro. I think that's the underlying factor you're missing.
I have values that I grew up with, which have also helped to shape me and my mentality. Those values help me determine those I let into my circle and my preferences in a partner based on their character and personality (you said this in a line there).
So my preferences depend on my values. Which is why I'll not hang out with people who roll a certain way. Our values shape us, bro. They create the foundation of who we are - our personalities.
That being said, my friends will be people who think and act a certain way, mostly like me. Remember the phrase _"show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are"?_
And because of this, I will not get with a girl who's VALUES _(here's the word again)_ don't match up with mine. My family members would notice it if I do and my friends will notice it. And guess what, I lose respect from these people because of that.
And all this is not to say that I'm choosing someone based on what they think. No, I'll naturally choose someone based on my preferences which are influenced by my values. Values that everyone around me will have. What others think come next but their thoughts or comments are not a deciding factor for making the choice.
So because I wanna maintain the respect I have, I wouldn't associate with a girl that doesn't have values like mine, i.e., someone who's not family oriented.
What you might be saying may be to not care what others say about your partner. Well, in the beginning stages of your relationship, these people - people who truly love me and want the best for me, who were raised with the same VALUES as me - will have an outsider's perspective of my partner and may see things I don't.
This is how communities with strong moral values are formed and maintained for generations. *_Individualism really is just a form of the lack of family values and orientation._*
Perspective matters, even someone else's. We aren't always right you know. And even if we are, it pays to see through someone else's eyes; walk a mile in their shoes as they say.
@@NCL925 I don't know you, and you don't know me. Therefore, I can only talk about me - not other men. And I'm also reading your words literally. When you say 'you', I assume you're talking about me. If you weren't talking 'to' me or 'about' me, then use 'they'.
Sure, there are men out there that are heavily influenced by peer pressure. Just means many of them have no deep values they were brought up with or lack confidence in themselves. There might be a myriad reasons.
And as to why I write dissertations 😎? I love to write. You should try it too. It'll help brush up your writing skills.
@@demoladigitalit's natural to be respected but half of the things y'all judge each other off of are shallow af. You can call it seeking respect. Still come off as seeking validation from other men from a woman's perspective. The fact that your boys opinion of you can shake you much is just.....very high school.
Tysean mentioned that successful corporate women neglect women...I totally disagree. If he's been around that kind of women, then I feel sorry. I'm currently at the top level of my career, and I'm desiring marriage and a family. People make time for who or what they love. Gotta have those conversations.
This was by far hands down one of the best direct conversations I've heard in a long time.
Tbh no one would have even thought twice abt the KeKe Palmer thing if he didn’t put it online. We would not be talking abt it today
The lack of accountability and entitlement to her bad behavior, foul attitudes and vindictive toxic spite is the real elephant in the room. It's being avoided like a landmine. Men would rather be alone than sleep with an opp.
Yes go ahead and sleep all alone. Weak males are 🤮
Well said, the delusion is cringe. I rather buy a life like sex doll for 2 racks and have a peace of mind 😂😂😂
@@mistahjay8598 real spill BroSki 💯
@@mistahjay8598 And that's what will be next for you indeed.
@@jamesrobinson3rdCoast sounds like you found the man of your dreams, aaawwwww
The keke Palmer situation they was not together lol he was mad because they wasn’t together lol it’s in the court docs
Girl stop, these two are on each other.
In regards to relationships, men and women need to be open to criticism, new ideas etc. In the 21st century, we should be at a point as Blacks that you can figure certain things out and come into a relationship or marriage with a certain realistic understanding and perspective!
The whole man being the dominant entity in a home was based on the financial resources he provided and therefore sustained the home. That’s not the case today! Women and men are bringing resources to home and now things need to be balanced and it has redefined the Black Household!
When you fight against, you (women and men) will continue to have challenges in dating or marriage!
My thing is too many generalizations are made on a very large group of women under the label, black women.You cannot judge many by a few.We All have alot to learn as a people.
All of this sound crazy to be honest .... no one want to be controlled by another...
Love respect, loyalty, friendship great conversations and trust...
Men want to be respected, women want to be heard and have a scence of loyalty in the relationship.
Great Episode!❤
It's not about men always being the leader. It's about partnership. One should not be the leader of the other. But each should lead in their areas of expertise. It should be a respectful, EQUAL partnership where each partner respects the abilities of the other. Respect, respect, respect. Love starts out as a feeling, and then for the rest of our lives it is a decision. Biblical roles have no place in the 21st century. They are destructive. Believe me. I tried to live like that, and it was toxic.
Keke Palmer is a very bad example. Keke is the bread winner for her family. Ciara is married and has done similar things and her husband loved his wife right through it! It’s very unfair.
These people are so young that they have no idea about women at all. All women are malleable to the right man. A woman’s malleability is in his aura and in his spirit! A man who is a real man and he shows up to you he disarms anything a man would find disconcerting about her. I am listening to these two and if they come with that to a relationship they will be divorced within 2 years and I am speaking facts.
Loved this…thank u❤
What about loving a black man we are not here for a challenge why can't we just enhance each others life
38 to 40 minute mark. Redpill. This community is not confused about anything. The decision has been made to not be a SIMP. To hold women accountable for their bad behavior and choices in life. Full ✋️ stop.
Thank you for this much needed conversation.
Bottom line: our community would be better if our men were better.
I never heard anybody in the red pill community say it all women’s fault ever. These guys are pandering a little
Men need to keep that in mind when their women are not around. But I have to remember that is "ONE" opinion.
Thank you pastor future in future we trust 🔥
I agree redpill is needed for some men...everybody path isn't the same...if you just read comments other than listen to the podcast you're going to Have a negative opinion...never read the comments
Name a positive red pill podcast that is needed and say why it is needed?
Red Pill = awareness of the true nature of men and women when it comes to inter-sexual dynamics.
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Men have to be strong no matter how much they feel away
Hallelujah 💗 Black ladies DIVEST😊
28:23 - 29:07 45:40 - 47:33 💯💯💯 C'mon Ryan!!!!!
I feel like i be being hard on Ryan but I have a lot of respect and hope for his growth especially since that TG episode! but he really gotta take his own advice. he gives a lot of advice but not in a relationship. you can’t talk about there’s a space for red pill in one breath and in the very next breath tell ladies to be careful what they consume lol
I would not spend a second around
either of you ! 😇
I hope Ryan doesn’t still have this mindset. Because the men with integrity, and are high achievers, and also handsome, don’t talk like this! They respect their women, and recognize that the relationship is about purpose, and team work. We worship ALMIGHTY GOD! Not a partner!
She disrespected him in public right. Shame her in public.
Women want a man to lead. A woman will only follow a man they respect. The man usually comes with age, experience, knowledge and wisdom. Being an older man is not a pre-requisition to having those qualities, however it’s a base starting point
When she said Tyshawn I said damn smh 🤦🏾♂️ 😂😂😂😂 lol
To my knowledge Keke was already single at the time. They had already broke up! So what she did was fine.
She is an entertainer..
These guys think a lot of themselves and sound like some unmarried boys!
Men bend to women a lot in relationships but the few times we try to get yall together you feel oppressed!! I’m good on it! It’s to the point now that I make suggestions and if she doesn’t follow through I’m good on her!
Great show, great points! Loved it
Out of everything they talked about on this podcast, what stands out to me the most is that these two intelligent successful brothers are single. Like we are living in a world where these brothers can't find someone special!?! Just think about that. And, I do not feel they are looking for a Vanessa Williams or Tyra Banks. I know they don't have trouble dating, but I feel the truth is the type of women they want is slim, and also a lot of women would rather be single then adapt to their preferences of "wifey material."
They’ll get there person These are God fearing men so when Gods timing is right it will be done
you can lead/coach an older woman too just can’t lead them anywhere bc they bn there some that. sis don’t fold and say his comment made sense. hold him to the fire!
Today’s current thoughts notwithstanding…
There’s a reason the male is called the Bride (GROOM)…
Why can’t people do historic math..
A team has offensive coach wife & a defensive coach husband they have to work together for the the team to win smh leader means there's a follower the problem is men don't value women's opinions or ideas
This is a ridiculous topic. I don’t think black woman in this generation give a crap at least I nor the woman in my family don’t. I guess that’s why my sister found a white husband. All I know is when the so called system comes after you black men unjustly I’ll be sipping my water and minding my business.
Darius was wrong for dating with Keke in the first place... Keke is Bi.... How the h... Do u think as a man that u can handle that situation all the more that she's a successful lady, she been bi for at least 2 years way before meeting him.... And now he has a kid with her.... It's just a mess... But hey, he's a grown man right...
At this time in her life, I don't see any man capable of "handling" keke...she's a lot... but she's living life on her terms AND she has the right to do just that ❤
@@focused0002 "handling" coz there ain't no other term that could express better any other way of interacting with her... And of course she has the right BUT no man should deal with her unless he's Bi himself.
@@Avembe don't see the requirement of him being bi...but ok
Yeah, she was suppose to be some to do. Dudes overplay their hand all the time tryna hold on to a woman that doesn’t wanna be held. 😂😂