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1. At the start, Ayesha described a populist leader as typically being a macho man with an inflated ego. However, I would argue that their ego is still far less inflated than those who hold crooked power and view the general population as inferior-like Pakistan's previous and current dictators, and if its ultimately a war of egos, the populist still wins since their ego is somewhat understandable, even if not completely justifiable. As for the macho image, I believe that reflects her personal perspective. It’s worth noting that history has seen female populist leaders as well. In my understanding, what truly defines a populist leader is not their gender or ego but a combination of certain qualities: charisma, bluntness, a disregard for the societal elite, and the ability to rally the masses toward a common goal while uniting them against a common enemy. 2. We often overlook the fact that, regardless of how inappropriate Imran Khan’s behavior may be or whether Nawaz Sharif stooped to the level of distributing inappropriate pictures of Benazir Bhutto, the principle of democracy still stands. The counterargument to this-and to Asad’s initial point-is Paracha’s support for the other side while abandoning any and all principles. Let’s assume Trump is bad, Imran Khan is bad; even then, democracy should be allowed to take its course. I believe we, as so-called intellectuals, make a grave mistake in labeling everyone who disagrees with us ideologically as intellectually inferior. Even if they are less informed or educated, no ordinary person intentionally acts against their own benefit, no matter their intellectual capacity. If a populist leader delivers tangible development for the country, who’s to say their leadership is bad? When they fail to deliver, democracy will naturally correct itself. No society has ever sustained its support for leaders who only talk without taking meaningful action. In my opinion, if actions are impactful, the rhetoric becomes secondary. Where was Imran Khan's populism when his government was failing to deliver miserably? The establishment had the same plans for Imran Khan as it has had with other leaders in the past. They likely intended for him to become just another tool in their arsenal, with everything continuing as it has for the past 75 years or so. However, Imran Khan's resistance, which has made things difficult for both the current government and the establishment, is a testament, that he genuinely wants to make a difference for the country. I am currently willing to give Imran Khan the benefit of the doubt, as he remains the only leader actively opposing the establishment. He has refused all deals so far. This situation has created a stalemate for all parties involved. The establishment views him as a serious threat to their power if they allow him to come to power without a deal, while Imran Khan sees a threat to his political career if he compromises with the establishment or the political parties. This dynamic also undermines the solution proposed by Asad and Ayesha, which suggested that political parties need to engage in dialogue. Given the history of political parties in Pakistan and their failure to keep promises, this seems highly improbable.
Ayesha and her boomer generation can't wrap their head around the fact that IK's rise wasn't purely dependent on the establishment. The middle class, rise of social media, poor governance, global connectivity and a growing youth base all contributed towards his rise. So much for the depth of her analysis...
and gen z dont want to accept the fact that their meesiah leader imran is pure product of establishment. the day when this so called shaor wali gen z would read history and politics of pakistan from day1, would be the day when this shaor wali awaam will be shaor wali in real
she is totally against imran khan for no reason at all ... and when she asked what should average person do then ? she was total black out ... ...and she even does not know anything what establishment doing 1:02:05 please check video here ...and I think she is getting paid by PMLN
Thank you. A great debate. Though dont agree or need more clarity on few things (like at the very end she said to remove Trump something non democratic action will be required to remove him. My question who decides if Trump is good for the country - public or few members of establishment?
Yeah same like first she said there should be no higher power in democratic process then she shifted and said that trump should be removed and it could be undemocratic power. I see no rule here to follow, her whole point was based on emotional biasness like if she feel something right then its right.
In fight of negative and less negative..... Pure negative prevails....... Since we are not pure positive...which is another class of people.... Therefore we used to see fight of less negative and pure negative
I may not watch it now (not because I'm opposed to any of it but because have other priorities right now). But listened to the first 5 minutes. Great thing to do. Something EON would have done. Talk the talk, walk the walk.
After watching the podcast, it's safe to say that the original Eon's clip holds weight and is nearer to reality. Furthermore, a simple Google search presents the following definition of a 'populist': Google: A person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups. AI: A person who works to give ordinary people a voice in the government or who puts the rights of ordinary people above those of the wealthy and powerful. This clearly shows that a populist need not necessarily be a cult like figure. Elite groups, individuals, beneficiaries, and the ones who perceive themselves as a part of an elite group inhertly are against a populist. So in Ik's case, it's infact hate that is driving them crazy. P.S: Imran is both a populist as well as an Islamist, adding to the injury!
8:00 Giorgia Meloni is a populist leader. She's a woman, not a macho man. We shouldn't bring gender lens into this discussion. whoever represents large percentage of population is a populist leader, no matter the gender.
I remember she once wrote a whole column about how dynastic politics and corrupt practice of the two of our political families are not that big of a problem but Imran khan is a threat to Pakistan. and that is the mindset of major part of our elite and status-quo families. FYI as a liberal democratic patwari she will also block U on twitter if you dare to criticize her.
she had nothing substantial to add to the conversation imo but I do appreciate that you guys took the opportunity to engage with people from the other side lets hope this leads to more conversations hopefully quality ones that will increase the intellectual acumen of the viewers
@@tanveerahmed5951 Khilafah is not only the responsibility of Arabs. It is responsibility of all muslims to establish the Law from Allah subhanuwataala on the Earth. Turks have also done it. It is responsibilty of every muslim.
@@HH-yj3jc How dare you say that? Khalifah is the most pious and capable person of Ummah. The typical democratic politicians have no place in the system defined by the principles of Islam.
Sorry but the lady is not competent or unbiased enough to be heard when it comes to local politics. And here views regarding international politics and social media is not of someone who cares to bring improvement.
Kya Majboori rahi hogi jo Twitter troll ke saath podcast karna padgya. feeling sad for you guys hopefully you'll reach the target audience and get enough views.
Her central argument is that anyone who doesn't share her beliefs should be dismissed as a populist and prevented from governing, even if it means endorsing undemocratic forces like the military. She sees this as a noble act rather than a compromise. In her view, ordinary people lack the intellect to choose their leaders, and only "progressive" Pakistani liberals like herself are fit to make such decisions. For her, military rule is acceptable-as long as it supports the leaders she favors.
This podcast discusses the concept of fascism and how it is applied to different political figures, particularly Imran Khan. The hosts argue that Imran Khan is not a fascist because he does not meet all of the criteria for the definition of fascism. They also discuss the role of the military in Pakistani politics and the importance of civilian supremacy. The hosts argue that the military has too much influence in the country and that civilian supremacy is important for a democracy to function properly. Overall, the video is a discussion about the concept of fascism and how it applies to different political figures in Pakistan. The hosts also discuss the role of the military in Pakistani politics and the importance of civilian supremacy.
Good job Ms. Aisha for having the courage to show up & face the ones you critique and have an open discussion. It takes courage on both sides. Well done team
This was overall a low intellect podcast. No real political terminologies or philosophies were discussed. Aunty just doesnt like Imran khan and thinks he is badtameez. My mother also thinks im badtameez, does that make me a populist 🤔
Please mare request ha kay ap apnay mayar na kharab karay asa fazol logo ko bula kr! ZSeriously ma’nay main stream media NEWS channel sub kuch chor deya ha Sirf EON aur some of YT channels dakhta hu! BTW ap logo k real content ha !
After listening to this episode, this Lady sound like a mouthpiece for the pmln or navaz sharief, not sure what she was observing thru out the years. For 40 years ppp pmln have stolen so much resources from Pakistan.
mashaallah Asad bhai I am not really a political person but as a human being and a muslim I prioritise manners and ethics as a top most thing in any human being and your Ikhlaq and upbringing shows everything how you took a comment really seriously and showed a positive aspect of yourself and a whole team that if EON is promoting something or saying something its just not only words. and definitely actions are louder than words. may ALLAH SWT bless the EON team with loads of success and progress Ameen
Aoa. Yeh video dekh kar kaafi achcha laga. Issi tarah kay content kay liyeh I became a paying member. Keep up the good work. Waisay aik sawal meray zehen main ubhra hai kay agar hamara moashara shaksiyat parast hai tau kya hamaray political system ko uski akasi nahin karni chahiye ? I mean is the parliamentary system right for us? Shouldn't we adopt the US presidential system instead?
السلام علیکم Eon family میری اپ سے ایک گزارش ہے کہ اپ اپنے ہر ویڈیو میں مکمل اردو بولا کریں تاکہ مجھ جیسے ان پڑھ لوگ جن کو انگلش نہیں اتی وہ اچھی طرح ویڈیو کا سن سکیں اور سمجھ سکیں شکریہ
Awesome step by eon please keep continue this type of Discourse to thrive public IQ and teach them how to talk peacefully either if you are form different backgrounds and having different perspectives... ❤
she had a problem with the sexism of Punjabi males. so she married a pakhtun 💀💀💀 no offense to my pakhtunbros but that's like jumping out of the frying pan and right into the fire, what did she accomplish by saying that? and IK who she calls sexist is also a pakhtun, so the logic doesn't track
Madam Ayesha is completely wrong on resignations of PTIs MNA from Assembly. Had IK wouldn’t resign from assembly Gen. Bajwa keep playing on Pakistani politics till now.
Ah, so Madame Philosophy Extraordinaire believes a populist can't be a leader? What a groundbreaking revelation! I'm sure world history is weeping at the sheer brilliance of her twisted, mental gymnastics routine. And then she graciously informs us that populists are usually (gasp!) alpha males. Is this her thesis? Or just her therapy session masquerading as an opinion? I’m trying to gulp down her logic, but it’s like swallowing cacti-10 gallons of water aren’t enough. 🥴 Now, let’s talk about making heroes larger than life. Sure, I’ll admit IK isn't perfect-he’s got his head-scratchers, like that tone-deaf stance on rape cases and the enigma of the cypher. But here’s the deal: I back the guy for having the guts to dream big and actually try to lift a poverty-stricken nation. Enthusiasm and a dash of madness? Yeah, I’ll take that over the snooze-fest “leadership” we’re used to. From where I’m sitting, she’s just another contrarian trying to stand out by dunking on a popular leader. Sorry, Aunty, but if you’re going to throw shade, at least build a proper foundation for it. Right now, your argument’s about as solid as a paper umbrella in a monsoon.
I couldn't continue watching the video after hearing the claim that population (or popularity) is dangerous for democracy. That is not democracy-popular will should lead, as it reflects the essence of a democratic system. She seems to have issues with men, as it has become fashionable nowadays to criticize men under the guise of feminism.
I liked you guys before, but I love you guys now. While I may disagree with Miss Ayesha on some points, it is outstanding that both parties, while disagreeing, are sitting together (or zooming together) and presenting their arguments. I would love the Eon team to do these types of interviews/civil debates/podcasts more often, as this builds a good precedent for us of the young adult generation. And I hope to see your channel grow into something even more exemplary. May God grant you strength and patience for that.
The most easiest way out of this current situation is Establishing Civilians in head positions of ISI, PIA and where ever the retired bary bhai are. Cause at the end of the day Imran and Nawaz are two tools of Army
Some key points that went under the radar: - Vote of No Confidence involved horse-trading, hence, it lost credibility. - Even if she doesn't prefer Khan, that doesn't justify the historical election robbery in 2024. - Nawaz Sharif is corrupt (World knows), but Khan is not. You just can't vote for corrupt politicians and corruption wasn't discussed. - PMLN & PPP have a far worse history of Badtameezi in politics than PTI. - They were pioneers of this style of political opposition, instead she blamed Khan for starting the trend. - The question about an average person's options went unanswered, simply, because the answer tilts towards Khan. WHY CAN'T THESE INTELLECTS ACCEPT THE FACT THAT PAKISTANIS HAVE CHOSEN IMRAN KHAN ? HE SHOULD BE IN POWER REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE'S CAPABLE OR NOT. THIS IS DEMOCRACY, YOUR HAVE TO RESPECT THE VOTE.
Okay so after a quite long video there were few things I understood; Firstly, that both the parties were not arguing on the same point, Sir was right at his point that what so ever Imran Khan is, he is the choice of people and nobody has the right to suppress people's opinion after all we live in democratic country (where there is controlled democracy 😅), and Mam had a totally different point as she was not talking about the suppression of people's choice rather she was stuck at Imran Khan's stubborn, rigid and arrogant sort of personality. But she was a graceful lady 🫰and was trying to explain a point that every Non PTI Pakistani (although he's not considered a Pakistani 😅) tries to explain their PTI Pakistanis.
Id love to see eon moderate a debate between Sabahat Zakariya and one of the dawah boys( she previously mocked Mohammed Hijab) can even be adnan rashid or someone. Second id love for saad rizvi and some scholar to highhlight their position about blasphemy what characterizes and what can we as muslims do ( saad rizvi is leader of an extremist org. While a normal muslim knows blasphemy law means reporting incidence to police and let courts and police do their investigation)
She is a perfect example of a so called political analyst and a self-proclaimed intellectual that we often see on twitter labeling everyone 'jahil' who does not agree with their opinions and points, espscially when their argument is filled up with nothing but hatred for Imran Khan. And when I say nothing I mean seriously not a single fact or a piece of information that is worth debating on, and they are so anti-Imran (which is okay) and top of that also so ignorant (which is not okay) that the only defence they all have is to calling him (IK) names and stoop so low with that as much as possible; or, to start talking about 2018 elections. God knows if they're being paid for being so supportive of the current govt/est. or just plain stupid.
Kuch log hoty hain jiny na politics mai interest hai Na Pakistan mai Na kisi mai Unhy srf imran khan ky khilaf bolna hota hai Baki jo koi bhi jo bhi kry it doesn’t matter to those guys And this madam is from that kind of guys
As a society we are becoming highly polarized.. Both the podcast and comments show highly biased opinions.. We tend to not agree with oposing views even if they have some truth and logic to it.. Why as a nation we have adopted the 'My way or the Highway' attitude.. So unfortunate 😢 May Allah give us true wisdom and patience. Aameen
I never comment on videos but this video has made convinced that I should -- she basically has problem with "bdtmeezi" but nothing else. Foj ne jo kia, wo theek hai, Nawaz ne supreme court pe hamla kia wo alag hai, bushra bibi k periods k din giny gaye pury media pe wo theek hai, lekin bdtmeezi ghlt hai. Aisy log he is qoum k zawal ka reason hain
So let me get this straight, journalists are allowed to make fun of situation to make a point, increase engagement and increase reach but politicians cannot. Does she have a background of ESTABLISHMENT like anyone in her family because she is contradicting her points.
I respectfully disagree with Ayesha Ijaz Khan’s perspective. It’s evident that her stance is critical of Imran Khan, which she’s expressed openly, including her preference for voting for Nawaz Sharif over Imran. However, it’s important to acknowledge that while Imran Khan entered politics and later leveraged establishment support to come to power, Nawaz Sharif himself was initially brought into politics by the establishment. Unfortunately, Pakistan’s political history has been deeply influenced and distorted by these establishment dynamics. This complexity is often clearer to those who have left Pakistan-not by choice-and maintained a non-political perspective. Not people like Ayesha.
IMRAN KHAN IS THE ONLY ORGANIC LEADER IN THE HISTORY OF PAKISTAN, NO ONE HAS HELPED HIM INTO POWER, BUT RATHER HURT HIM. BUT ARMY ONLY LIE THAT THEY HELPED IK IN HIS POLITICS TO MAKE THEMSELVES SEEM LIKE GODS, THEY LIED ABOUT BEATING INDIA IN WARS, THE SAME THEY DID ABOUT IMRAN KHAN, IN 2018 THEY STOLE 30 SEATS FROM IMRAN KHAN SO HE WILL HAVE A WEAK COALITION GOVERNMENT, SO THEY COULD CONTROL AND OVERTHROW HIM ANY TIME THEY WANT AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
She says that the time period between 2008-2018 was a better time period Democratically and economically. Truth is from 2008 to 2018 PKR went from 65 Rs to 132 Rs make Pakistan 2 time poorer. 1$ of Pakistani became 0.30$ in 10 years without doing anything. Imran khan left Dollar was at 185 Rs. And then Came Hybrid PRO Max Regime and Dollor went to 330 Max.😢😂
To call Ayesha old and Auntie proves her point that this interference by establishment has promoted uncouth attitude amongst youth! I'm wondering if IK is so uncouth or if he himself was brainwashed by establishment.
1:02:17 ISPR ka budget 2x increase ker giya hay. And the face she had. OMG 😂 The whole time I thought she was an intellectual and Asad was just agreeing on her stance. Then came the master blaster in the last few minutes. 😛
If this lady is an author, then Asad is a philosopher. Kin below-average logu ko space de rhey hn ap log bhi. In the name of inclusivity, don't bring every A B, and C with no work to show.
1:03:25 I have opinion, things were going very well the whole hour but at this point when Ayesha is not accepting and there are more “but” . It is concerning as a learned person like Ayesha is either not aware of reality or seeing it with bias. I agree with her on imran khan and whole project that is why i am surprised that she is failing to see badtmizi that is going on now
جب کارل مارکس کاانسانیت کی بہتری کے لئے نظریہ کادفاع کرنا اس کی شخصیت پرستی نہیں ہوتی اور کسی کمپنی میں اس کی بہتری کے لئے کسی ایک کو(صحیح یا غلط طور پر) زیادہ موزون سمجھنابہی کوئی شخصیت پرستی نہیں ہوتی ۔۔۔۔پھر یہ عمران خان کی عوامی مقبولیت کو شخصیت پرستی سےتعبیر کرنا بددیانتی نہیں تو اور کیا ہے ؟؟
I quit to listen this conversation when this lady said that she would have to choose between Nawaz sharif and Imran Khan then she'll vote for Nawaz sharif. Like really, Kuch bhi. I can only pray for the quick mental health recovery of this aunty.
Asad is a veteran debater and debating coach who has coached various teams to victory in multiple national level tournaments through out the years. Here are a few of his credentials:
* Multiple Times All Pakistan Parliamentary Style Debates Champion
* Multiple Times Best Speaker At APPSD
* Member Pakistan Team For World Schools Debating Championship
* LUMS University Style Debates Winner
* Adjudicator For World Schools Debating Championship Held In Turkey
* Coached Multiple Teams To Win Pakistan Nationals
* Nice Guy
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You should have extended this courtesy to J.I. too. But you guys don't even consider them in any conversation..why?
1. At the start, Ayesha described a populist leader as typically being a macho man with an inflated ego. However, I would argue that their ego is still far less inflated than those who hold crooked power and view the general population as inferior-like Pakistan's previous and current dictators, and if its ultimately a war of egos, the populist still wins since their ego is somewhat understandable, even if not completely justifiable. As for the macho image, I believe that reflects her personal perspective. It’s worth noting that history has seen female populist leaders as well.
In my understanding, what truly defines a populist leader is not their gender or ego but a combination of certain qualities: charisma, bluntness, a disregard for the societal elite, and the ability to rally the masses toward a common goal while uniting them against a common enemy.
2. We often overlook the fact that, regardless of how inappropriate Imran Khan’s behavior may be or whether Nawaz Sharif stooped to the level of distributing inappropriate pictures of Benazir Bhutto, the principle of democracy still stands. The counterargument to this-and to Asad’s initial point-is Paracha’s support for the other side while abandoning any and all principles. Let’s assume Trump is bad, Imran Khan is bad; even then, democracy should be allowed to take its course. I believe we, as so-called intellectuals, make a grave mistake in labeling everyone who disagrees with us ideologically as intellectually inferior. Even if they are less informed or educated, no ordinary person intentionally acts against their own benefit, no matter their intellectual capacity. If a populist leader delivers tangible development for the country, who’s to say their leadership is bad? When they fail to deliver, democracy will naturally correct itself. No society has ever sustained its support for leaders who only talk without taking meaningful action. In my opinion, if actions are impactful, the rhetoric becomes secondary. Where was Imran Khan's populism when his government was failing to deliver miserably?
The establishment had the same plans for Imran Khan as it has had with other leaders in the past. They likely intended for him to become just another tool in their arsenal, with everything continuing as it has for the past 75 years or so. However, Imran Khan's resistance, which has made things difficult for both the current government and the establishment, is a testament, that he genuinely wants to make a difference for the country.
I am currently willing to give Imran Khan the benefit of the doubt, as he remains the only leader actively opposing the establishment. He has refused all deals so far. This situation has created a stalemate for all parties involved. The establishment views him as a serious threat to their power if they allow him to come to power without a deal, while Imran Khan sees a threat to his political career if he compromises with the establishment or the political parties.
This dynamic also undermines the solution proposed by Asad and Ayesha, which suggested that political parties need to engage in dialogue. Given the history of political parties in Pakistan and their failure to keep promises, this seems highly improbable.
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nai bholay bakery wala incident maryam nawaz ka
@@muhammedirtaza4986 bruh spitting faxxx on faxxx well said brother much better analysis than this channel keep it up... 👍
A most balanced analysis!
One hour conversation and nothing about policy. She mainly had a problem with badtameezy. Aunty is old but she should grow up
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@@maliqazi1 not old, come on. She might be in her mid 40s
@@syedamarmusa6512bruhh 40s is pushing it 💀 50s atleast
💯 agree
@syedamarmusa6512 bruv! Simp tou na kar💀
Ayesha and her boomer generation can't wrap their head around the fact that IK's rise wasn't purely dependent on the establishment. The middle class, rise of social media, poor governance, global connectivity and a growing youth base all contributed towards his rise. So much for the depth of her analysis...
What boomer boomer generation? Please show a bit of respect. Or did the current generation come from robots?
and gen z dont want to accept the fact that their meesiah leader imran is pure product of establishment. the day when this so called shaor wali gen z would read history and politics of pakistan from day1, would be the day when this shaor wali awaam will be shaor wali in real
"Modi-Hindutva led rising India" is also responsible for the rise of Imran Khan. Pakistanis know this🤣
Thats a very streteched
@@avinashmishra7735 pojeet don't interfere
33:33 You trapped her with her own logic. Good one Asad!
This podcast was worse than Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson
😂😂😂😂
You saved my 55 minutes, thank you! 👍
downfall hai bhai apka agr is terha ke logon ko bula ke full boring baatein kerne, kuch jawab tu dia nahi in muhterma ne
Exactly !! She does not know anything about pakistan situation.
she is totally against imran khan for no reason at all ... and when she asked what should average person do then ? she was total black out ... ...and she even does not know anything what establishment doing 1:02:05 please check video here ...and I think she is getting paid by PMLN
Mian shb is the only solution
@@asadahmed4993 lol
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Thank you. A great debate. Though dont agree or need more clarity on few things (like at the very end she said to remove Trump something non democratic action will be required to remove him. My question who decides if Trump is good for the country - public or few members of establishment?
Bahut acha sawal he
I was thinking the same but you articulated it well
Thissss
Yeah same like first she said there should be no higher power in democratic process then she shifted and said that trump should be removed and it could be undemocratic power. I see no rule here to follow, her whole point was based on emotional biasness like if she feel something right then its right.
So I have to criticise you to be on your podcast rather than praise you😂😂😂
In fight of negative and less negative..... Pure negative prevails....... Since we are not pure positive...which is another class of people.... Therefore we used to see fight of less negative and pure negative
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love this model of conversation
Truly Appreciated
She’d vote for Nawaz Sharif over Imran Khan, which says a lot about her intellect.
Ik is a failure.
Your statement doesn't make any sense lol
You writing such a naive comment says a lot about your intellect too :)
@@hamzaafzaal5743that’s shows her intellect
Either agree with my option or you are dumb. Great logic.
I may not watch it now (not because I'm opposed to any of it but because have other priorities right now). But listened to the first 5 minutes. Great thing to do. Something EON would have done. Talk the talk, walk the walk.
This aunty is an embarrassment to herself. PPP and PMLN supporter talking about American election, how funny 😅😂
Even PTI supporters talking about US elections(RTS) lol
@ who told you im a PTI supporter, your mommy?
Baita, grow up. You need to learn a lot yet !
Ma Shaa Allah very nice podcast . both done excellent job and helped alot to think what has to done in future. Jazak Allah
nice interjection for the subscription ad
so, I found this channel a very intellectual and the presenter is well educated. thank you so much for brining this to us. thanks.
After watching the podcast, it's safe to say that the original Eon's clip holds weight and is nearer to reality. Furthermore, a simple Google search presents the following definition of a 'populist':
Google: A person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.
AI: A person who works to give ordinary people a voice in the government or who puts the rights of ordinary people above those of the wealthy and powerful.
This clearly shows that a populist need not necessarily be a cult like figure. Elite groups, individuals, beneficiaries, and the ones who perceive themselves as a part of an elite group inhertly are against a populist. So in Ik's case, it's infact hate that is driving them crazy.
P.S: Imran is both a populist as well as an Islamist, adding to the injury!
Asal may Aunti ko imran phobia he😅😅
Liberal ke mindset p bhi video banna chayye kiu ke inka Rona kabhi band hota, sari duniya m liberals roty rehty hen 😅
8:00 Giorgia Meloni is a populist leader. She's a woman, not a macho man. We shouldn't bring gender lens into this discussion. whoever represents large percentage of population is a populist leader, no matter the gender.
If democracy doesn't serve common person then hell with democrazy of corrupt elites
What?? What???? What??? She doesn't deserve to be on EON.
just chill boy … un ki b sunlyni chaiya
@@sohailaurangzeb6428what do you expect from Youthia.
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I remember she once wrote a whole column about how dynastic politics and corrupt practice of the two of our political families are not that big of a problem but Imran khan is a threat to Pakistan. and that is the mindset of major part of our elite and status-quo families. FYI as a liberal democratic patwari she will also block U on twitter if you dare to criticize her.
she had nothing substantial to add to the conversation imo but I do appreciate that you guys took the opportunity to engage with people from the other side lets hope this leads to more conversations hopefully quality ones that will increase the intellectual acumen of the viewers
Baji feministische 😂😂😂😂😂
Welldone Asad, you exposed this lady. She has no material.
She is right. People blindly follow IK. Being Muslims, it is our responsibility to struggle collectively towards the establishment of Khilafah.
On which planet are you living! Establishment of Khilafa? Where? First let the Arabs establish a Khilafat.
@@tanveerahmed5951 Khilafah is not only the responsibility of Arabs. It is responsibility of all muslims to establish the Law from Allah subhanuwataala on the Earth. Turks have also done it. It is responsibilty of every muslim.
Under who. Nawaz Sharif. Jisko uskay apnay log chor kehtay Hain.
@@HH-yj3jc How dare you say that? Khalifah is the most pious and capable person of Ummah. The typical democratic politicians have no place in the system defined by the principles of Islam.
She only has a personal problem with imran khan
So do millions others and rightly so
Sorry but the lady is not competent or unbiased enough to be heard when it comes to local politics. And here views regarding international politics and social media is not of someone who cares to bring improvement.
He kind of exposed her
Very Healthy Conversation
Some agreements Some disagreements but the point is they shared their thoughts.
Kya Majboori rahi hogi jo Twitter troll ke saath podcast karna padgya.
feeling sad for you guys hopefully you'll reach the target audience and get enough views.
Her central argument is that anyone who doesn't share her beliefs should be dismissed as a populist and prevented from governing, even if it means endorsing undemocratic forces like the military. She sees this as a noble act rather than a compromise. In her view, ordinary people lack the intellect to choose their leaders, and only "progressive" Pakistani liberals like herself are fit to make such decisions. For her, military rule is acceptable-as long as it supports the leaders she favors.
This podcast discusses the concept of fascism and how it is applied to different political figures, particularly Imran Khan. The hosts argue that Imran Khan is not a fascist because he does not meet all of the criteria for the definition of fascism. They also discuss the role of the military in Pakistani politics and the importance of civilian supremacy. The hosts argue that the military has too much influence in the country and that civilian supremacy is important for a democracy to function properly. Overall, the video is a discussion about the concept of fascism and how it applies to different political figures in Pakistan. The hosts also discuss the role of the military in Pakistani politics and the importance of civilian supremacy.
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Good job Ms. Aisha for having the courage to show up & face the ones you critique and have an open discussion. It takes courage on both sides.
Well done team
She is a dumb troll. But she is also a fool.
This was overall a low intellect podcast. No real political terminologies or philosophies were discussed. Aunty just doesnt like Imran khan and thinks he is badtameez. My mother also thinks im badtameez, does that make me a populist 🤔
Lol. Perfectly said! jo bolay (me) chahay sahe bhi ho toh boht badtmeez bcha, or jo chup rhay (siblings) pr sb buri harkateyn kr jaye toh boht e tmeezdaar bcha. 😑
Please mare request ha kay ap apnay mayar na kharab karay asa fazol logo ko bula kr! ZSeriously ma’nay main stream media NEWS channel sub kuch chor deya ha Sirf EON aur some of YT channels dakhta hu! BTW ap logo k real content ha !
Great discussion 👍👍
I don't watch Podcast, but because of heading i am here, and nice explanation
After listening to this episode, this Lady sound like a mouthpiece for the pmln or navaz sharief, not sure what she was observing thru out the years. For 40 years ppp pmln have stolen so much resources from Pakistan.
Mashallah great conversation
Kash Pakistaniyon ko ye tareeqa aa jai
mashaallah Asad bhai I am not really a political person but as a human being and a muslim I prioritise manners and ethics as a top most thing in any human being and your Ikhlaq and upbringing shows everything how you took a comment really seriously and showed a positive aspect of yourself and a whole team that if EON is promoting something or saying something its just not only words. and definitely actions are louder than words. may ALLAH SWT bless the EON team with loads of success and progress Ameen
Please next time kesi intellectual ko bulana hamara time esy zaya naw kia kary Asad bhai hum ap logo ki ezat kartu hai
Aoa. Yeh video dekh kar kaafi achcha laga. Issi tarah kay content kay liyeh I became a paying member. Keep up the good work. Waisay aik sawal meray zehen main ubhra hai kay agar hamara moashara shaksiyat parast hai tau kya hamaray political system ko uski akasi nahin karni chahiye ? I mean is the parliamentary system right for us? Shouldn't we adopt the US presidential system instead?
السلام علیکم Eon family میری اپ سے ایک گزارش ہے کہ اپ اپنے ہر ویڈیو میں مکمل اردو بولا کریں تاکہ مجھ جیسے ان پڑھ لوگ جن کو انگلش نہیں اتی وہ اچھی طرح ویڈیو کا سن سکیں اور سمجھ سکیں شکریہ
Awesome step by eon please keep continue this type of Discourse to thrive public IQ and teach them how to talk peacefully either if you are form different backgrounds and having different perspectives...
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Asad bhai plz approach Faisal Warraich for a podcast.
Also invite other Kaneez-e-Nawaz such as Shama Junejo.
Hahahahaha i agree with you on kanez e nawaz but shez not worth inviting
she had a problem with the sexism of Punjabi males.
so she married a pakhtun 💀💀💀
no offense to my pakhtunbros but that's like jumping out of the frying pan and right into the fire, what did she accomplish by saying that?
and IK who she calls sexist is also a pakhtun, so the logic doesn't track
😂😂 can you put the timestamp?
Madam Ayesha is completely wrong on resignations of PTIs MNA from Assembly. Had IK wouldn’t resign from assembly Gen. Bajwa keep playing on Pakistani politics till now.
Ah, so Madame Philosophy Extraordinaire believes a populist can't be a leader? What a groundbreaking revelation! I'm sure world history is weeping at the sheer brilliance of her twisted, mental gymnastics routine. And then she graciously informs us that populists are usually (gasp!) alpha males. Is this her thesis? Or just her therapy session masquerading as an opinion? I’m trying to gulp down her logic, but it’s like swallowing cacti-10 gallons of water aren’t enough. 🥴
Now, let’s talk about making heroes larger than life. Sure, I’ll admit IK isn't perfect-he’s got his head-scratchers, like that tone-deaf stance on rape cases and the enigma of the cypher. But here’s the deal: I back the guy for having the guts to dream big and actually try to lift a poverty-stricken nation. Enthusiasm and a dash of madness? Yeah, I’ll take that over the snooze-fest “leadership” we’re used to.
From where I’m sitting, she’s just another contrarian trying to stand out by dunking on a popular leader. Sorry, Aunty, but if you’re going to throw shade, at least build a proper foundation for it. Right now, your argument’s about as solid as a paper umbrella in a monsoon.
I couldn't continue watching the video after hearing the claim that population (or popularity) is dangerous for democracy. That is not democracy-popular will should lead, as it reflects the essence of a democratic system. She seems to have issues with men, as it has become fashionable nowadays to criticize men under the guise of feminism.
While ignoring that Italy prime minister is also populist while being women 😅
Ayesha Ijaz Khan is a gem. Extremely sane talk. 👍
I liked you guys before, but I love you guys now.
While I may disagree with Miss Ayesha on some points, it is outstanding that both parties, while disagreeing, are sitting together (or zooming together) and presenting their arguments.
I would love the Eon team to do these types of interviews/civil debates/podcasts more often, as this builds a good precedent for us of the young adult generation.
And I hope to see your channel grow into something even more exemplary. May God grant you strength and patience for that.
Where are the answers
what was the tweet?
Support ❤❤❤
This aunty is not worth listening
Sahi kaha. Patwari mindset hai.
The most easiest way out of this current situation is Establishing Civilians in head positions of ISI, PIA and where ever the retired bary bhai are.
Cause at the end of the day Imran and Nawaz are two tools of Army
First rule: there is no easy way out.
I like this podcast
Some key points that went under the radar:
- Vote of No Confidence involved horse-trading, hence, it lost credibility.
- Even if she doesn't prefer Khan, that doesn't justify the historical election robbery in 2024.
- Nawaz Sharif is corrupt (World knows), but Khan is not. You just can't vote for corrupt politicians and corruption wasn't discussed.
- PMLN & PPP have a far worse history of Badtameezi in politics than PTI.
- They were pioneers of this style of political opposition, instead she blamed Khan for starting the trend.
- The question about an average person's options went unanswered, simply, because the answer tilts towards Khan.
WHY CAN'T THESE INTELLECTS ACCEPT THE FACT THAT PAKISTANIS HAVE CHOSEN IMRAN KHAN ?
HE SHOULD BE IN POWER REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE'S CAPABLE OR NOT.
THIS IS DEMOCRACY, YOUR HAVE TO RESPECT THE VOTE.
bro spitting facts 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mam you are right hats off❤❤❤❤
Imran Khan ne badtameezi wala culture introduce nhi kia magar new heights zaroor di hai. I like Jamaat e Islami only.
expected better from Eon 🙄 the host failed to navigate a thought 🧐 conversation was lost between glib n adlibs 😢 unfortunately
Chal chal. Saboot day warna Chala ja.
41:47 nobel
I was excited to watch what she had to say, but very surprised and disappointed to see opinions that exist in very less educated class in her.
Pakistan should also have limitation that the PM cannot be selected more than two terms
I consider my self very dumb and she wasn't able to answer my question as well and she like to fight every other person on X with stupid reasons.
0:01 Aslam o Alikum Bhai Don't Mind Lykin Salam Sai Liya kry JazakAllah insano wali
Okay so after a quite long video there were few things I understood; Firstly, that both the parties were not arguing on the same point, Sir was right at his point that what so ever Imran Khan is, he is the choice of people and nobody has the right to suppress people's opinion after all we live in democratic country (where there is controlled democracy 😅), and Mam had a totally different point as she was not talking about the suppression of people's choice rather she was stuck at Imran Khan's stubborn, rigid and arrogant sort of personality.
But she was a graceful lady 🫰and was trying to explain a point that every Non PTI Pakistani (although he's not considered a Pakistani 😅) tries to explain their PTI Pakistanis.
Asad was supposed to ask how imran khan was removed. Sindh house mein kiya horaha tha. Shame on you
Id love to see eon moderate a debate between Sabahat Zakariya and one of the dawah boys( she previously mocked Mohammed Hijab) can even be adnan rashid or someone.
Second id love for saad rizvi and some scholar to highhlight their position about blasphemy what characterizes and what can we as muslims do ( saad rizvi is leader of an extremist org. While a normal muslim knows blasphemy law means reporting incidence to police and let courts and police do their investigation)
the best thing Asad bhai did was just stay silent and let her run her mouth, digging a deeper hole for herself with every word
She is a perfect example of a so called political analyst and a self-proclaimed intellectual that we often see on twitter labeling everyone 'jahil' who does not agree with their opinions and points, espscially when their argument is filled up with nothing but hatred for Imran Khan. And when I say nothing I mean seriously not a single fact or a piece of information that is worth debating on, and they are so anti-Imran (which is okay) and top of that also so ignorant (which is not okay) that the only defence they all have is to calling him (IK) names and stoop so low with that as much as possible; or, to start talking about 2018 elections.
God knows if they're being paid for being so supportive of the current govt/est. or just plain stupid.
Aunty IK was right about PPP and PMLN.
Both are two faces of the same coin.
Eon should have said why NS went to the court to help establishment to disqualified Yusuf Raza Gillani m
EON is only Aman Ullah Tariq 🫡
Asad sab chawal e mari jay chawal nu bola k.
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Kuch log hoty hain jiny na politics mai interest hai
Na Pakistan mai
Na kisi mai
Unhy srf imran khan ky khilaf bolna hota hai
Baki jo koi bhi jo bhi kry it doesn’t matter to those guys
And this madam is from that kind of guys
As a society we are becoming highly polarized.. Both the podcast and comments show highly biased opinions.. We tend to not agree with oposing views even if they have some truth and logic to it..
Why as a nation we have adopted the 'My way or the Highway' attitude..
So unfortunate 😢
May Allah give us true wisdom and patience. Aameen
I don't know i think she created more fuss than making things clear. What should we do?
I never comment on videos but this video has made convinced that I should -- she basically has problem with "bdtmeezi" but nothing else. Foj ne jo kia, wo theek hai, Nawaz ne supreme court pe hamla kia wo alag hai, bushra bibi k periods k din giny gaye pury media pe wo theek hai, lekin bdtmeezi ghlt hai.
Aisy log he is qoum k zawal ka reason hain
وَعَلَيْكُم السَّلَام وَرَحْمَةُ اَللهِ وَبَرَكاتُهُ
So let me get this straight, journalists are allowed to make fun of situation to make a point, increase engagement and increase reach but politicians cannot. Does she have a background of ESTABLISHMENT like anyone in her family because she is contradicting her points.
I respectfully disagree with Ayesha Ijaz Khan’s perspective. It’s evident that her stance is critical of Imran Khan, which she’s expressed openly, including her preference for voting for Nawaz Sharif over Imran. However, it’s important to acknowledge that while Imran Khan entered politics and later leveraged establishment support to come to power, Nawaz Sharif himself was initially brought into politics by the establishment. Unfortunately, Pakistan’s political history has been deeply influenced and distorted by these establishment dynamics. This complexity is often clearer to those who have left Pakistan-not by choice-and maintained a non-political perspective. Not people like Ayesha.
IMRAN KHAN IS THE ONLY ORGANIC LEADER IN THE HISTORY OF PAKISTAN, NO ONE HAS HELPED HIM INTO POWER, BUT RATHER HURT HIM. BUT ARMY ONLY LIE THAT THEY HELPED IK IN HIS POLITICS TO MAKE THEMSELVES SEEM LIKE GODS, THEY LIED ABOUT BEATING INDIA IN WARS, THE SAME THEY DID ABOUT IMRAN KHAN, IN 2018 THEY STOLE 30 SEATS FROM IMRAN KHAN SO HE WILL HAVE A WEAK COALITION GOVERNMENT, SO THEY COULD CONTROL AND OVERTHROW HIM ANY TIME THEY WANT AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
She says that the time period between 2008-2018 was a better time period Democratically and economically. Truth is from 2008 to 2018 PKR went from 65 Rs to 132 Rs make Pakistan 2 time poorer. 1$ of Pakistani became 0.30$ in 10 years without doing anything. Imran khan left Dollar was at 185 Rs. And then Came Hybrid PRO Max Regime and Dollor went to 330 Max.😢😂
To call Ayesha old and Auntie proves her point that this interference by establishment has promoted uncouth attitude amongst youth! I'm wondering if IK is so uncouth or if he himself was brainwashed by establishment.
Could anyone kindly enlighten me she defends them then distance her from themselves. What is the point here?
1:02:17 ISPR ka budget 2x increase ker giya hay. And the face she had. OMG 😂
The whole time I thought she was an intellectual and Asad was just agreeing on her stance.
Then came the master blaster in the last few minutes. 😛
all the 1 hour conversation the lady is trying to accuse IK and defend PMLN
If this lady is an author, then Asad is a philosopher. Kin below-average logu ko space de rhey hn ap log bhi. In the name of inclusivity, don't bring every A B, and C with no work to show.
1:03:25 I have opinion, things were going very well the whole hour but at this point when Ayesha is not accepting and there are more “but” . It is concerning as a learned person like Ayesha is either not aware of reality or seeing it with bias. I agree with her on imran khan and whole project that is why i am surprised that she is failing to see badtmizi that is going on now
جب کارل مارکس کاانسانیت کی بہتری کے لئے نظریہ
کادفاع کرنا اس کی شخصیت پرستی نہیں ہوتی اور کسی کمپنی میں اس کی بہتری کے لئے کسی ایک
کو(صحیح یا غلط طور پر) زیادہ موزون سمجھنابہی کوئی شخصیت پرستی نہیں ہوتی ۔۔۔۔پھر یہ عمران خان کی عوامی مقبولیت کو شخصیت پرستی سےتعبیر کرنا بددیانتی نہیں تو اور کیا ہے ؟؟
The Liberal hating part of me is furious at asad for holding back this much.....
پوڈکاسٹ کا نچوڑ ۔۔۔۔۔
آنٹی بغض عمران میں مبتلا ہے 😂
How Can Youth / Pakistani's Take The Power ( Establishment , Government etc..) In their Hands ?
Nai ho paega
Ho sakta hai if only 3-4 lac come on the street.
This is what happened in Turkey, Bangladesh, etc
I quit to listen this conversation when this lady said that she would have to choose between Nawaz sharif and Imran Khan then she'll vote for Nawaz sharif. Like really, Kuch bhi. I can only pray for the quick mental health recovery of this aunty.
So its according to her, if a leader is populist than its ok to stop him from coming in power by any means 🤔 Asad sir what you think
Good points raised......but Ayesha is just anti Imran.....on EVERY issue.
Her mind is fixed......people verdict must be respected
she's finding escape not answers or justifications , clueless.