Widow is definitely broken…she’s already good in 6v6 now in 5v5 with one less tank to pressure her skyrocketed her potential,she definitely needs to be 175 hp like tracer and have a sniper glint then she would be balanced. she should be a high risk high reward kind of character
@@ryverburns6541 don’t even feel bad widow is literally the bane of most characters existence simply due to the fact she out ranges 90% of the cast I play hitscan and other characters but going against a good widow is just so annoying and unfun to play against it’s even worse when I’m on tank and I have to swap to help my team deal with widow that’s not only not fun for me but enforces the whole counterwatch game Widow is literally the only character in the game you get free pressure simply by just existing no character in the game should do that
@@ryverburns6541ikr. His head hitbox was already large before the bullet size increase, now its jus nearly impossible to miss if u r somewat good at clicking head
i wouldn't say she's broken per say, Widow like any sniper in any FPS game is inherently strong as well and only thrives when they're left unchecked. Its more like the environment now lets her thrive rather than widow being any better or worse than she ever was. Hell last change in a patch was in FEBURARY. Making her health 175 wont do much if no one can get to her in the first place to pressure her
Widow’s character play style just doesn’t belong in this game. Other FPS games put limitations on ammunition or spawn rates of instant death weapons, or make the consequences of death more forgiving like a quick respawn on a small map so you can get back to the action quickly. Widow has access to an instant death weapon at all times. Mix that with a decent respawn time and a hefty walk back from spawn and it isn’t hard to see why she ruins games. She is such a bad idea for the game that Blizzard has had to rework maps and add immortality cooldowns just to give players a chance at not being instantly deleted by Widow. The only other characters capable of doing instant kills have to get close and use limited resources and abilities to create an opportunity for an instant kill with high risk to themselves. As for Widow, if she can see you she can kill you far from your reach and abilities. Widow is a problem that causes suffering for the rest of the Overwatch cast. The only consistent way to solve it as a player is to swap to a hard counter that you probably don’t want to play and target her with some equally infuriating bullshit. Something that becomes more of a hate fueled chore and less of a fun game.
Yeah agreed. However, when she was nerfed with a smaller range she was useless. That rework was terrible and made her unviable but this current state of widow makes the entire enemy team feel awful too. I personally believe she should have her poison shot from the Olympus event that way you can at least POTENTIALLY survive the instant-kill. This isn't healthy for the gameplay. Especially with the TTK in OW2.
@@Supboiif a character in a video game is either dominating or absolutely useless, it is broken. If you cant balance the character without going to extremes, you are working with flawed design.
@@dronnovik95 Probably yeah. Hanzo is close to Widow's design but his flaw is his projectile speed making him inconsistent. Widow doesn't have that flaw. I'd love to see a reworked version of Widow
@@Supboi i dont believe it is possible to fix hitscan sniper like her. Snipers can never be balanced in hero shooter, or shooter in general. Overwatch probably did it better then anyone and it is still feels extremely terrible
@dronnovik95 My suggestion was to remove her "Insta-kill" ability (because you can be across the map and not be able to do anything against her) And instead, have damage *overtime* . Similar to Ana's weapon/Ashe's burn. Even just 1 healing is enough to cancel the instant death. However she can always by-pass this by either shooting again, having her team spray this enemy or by spamming bullets from a far distance. This will automatically make it harder to get instant value however this will still allow her to have the 1 shot ability without destroying her identity. This allows for teamwork to play a huge part against Widowmaker and lone targets to become highly targeted. Effectively punishing enemies who don't play as a team and rewarding those to stick together.
I will forever hate widow, she completely destroys the flow of the game just by existing. Even if that widow is shit just the threat of being one shot is enough to make people scared.
@@brycenb2994 yeah but on pc, if you play a decent bit of widow and play on low sense it’s impossible to not be a threat. I suppose widow is not going to be an issue in the lowest ranks.
@ the fact that you worded it like that genuinely makes me think you’ve never played widow. Of course a widow that hits her shots can be oppressive in any scenario but she has clear weaknesses that can be exploited
Dude tracer is fked more, shes like a pest. The recall just shouldnt be part of this game as tracer cannot be killed if she wishes so. Curious to see statistics for k/d ratio for tracer. It must be better than tanks..
@@wojciechprzewozniak597 both these heroes are very high skills options, not a problem masters and below, but high sr lobbies see it a lot. I am bored seeing owl finals coming down to these heroes time and time again.
Well blame Jeff. The only design philosophy that OW seemingly has is that there is a character for everyone. Including the fps god gamer. Fundamentally flawed gameplay design at its finest.
i forget who said it, but i read a comment on another video that said "if any other character had the ability to one shot three people in the span of five seconds, they would be nerfed in an instant." widow for some reason just gets special treatment compared to all the other heroes and i really think it's worth having a conversation about if snipers belong in a game like overwatch.
Because Widow takes skill to headshot someone? Same with Hanzo although to a lesser degree because you can spam into a choke and get a lucky headshot but to do it consistently is a whole other thing.
@@GodsDissapointment Hanzo's most effective range is within the majority of other dps characters most effective range. Widows most effective range is outside a majority of other dps characters effective range. She's clearly a problem.
Widow one hundred percent needs to just be gutted or reworked. She is the number 1 thing that is unhealthy with the game. Like the difference between ashe and even hanzo vs widow is unbelievable. The fact she has such high kill potential in such a short span of time is not ok. It's boring and nothing fun about it. Counter play is boring, you go dive and dive the widow, or your team goes widow and if your widow sucks gg. Get rid of her
1-shots really have no place in OW. They tried taking it away from Hanzo and then barely even tried to make it work before just reverting him. Honestly, though, even if Hanzo and Widow have to be the worst characters in the game to make it happen, so be it. The health if the game is more important than the viability of 2 characters.
Hot take. Widow isn’t even that unhealthy. People conflate frustrating to play against with being unhealthy which aren’t the same. The reality is a widow player has to be extremely cracked at the game mechanically to get the value she does. And even then the only reason the widow ran this lobby is because no one went dive and the widow on cyx’s team got diffed
@brycenb2994 so something that's inherently frustrating isn't bad for a game? That is some seriously backwards thinking. Fun takes priority over competitive integrity or which character is "mechanically challenging". Otherwise we've completely lost sight of the true purpose of a video game.
@omarasfari4974 well, theorically he could, the time for scope-in headshots is .2 seconds and the reload time per bullet is 1.5 seconds. Thats why snipers where so annoying to fight against back in the bot crisis.
@@scwishy nah, i disagree. Most of the time sniper is really hard to spot unless he uses the machina. And the "counter-play" you speak about, most of the time envolves getting into him, which is already a hard task due for him to be, most of the time, behind the back-line. And if that wasn't enough, most snipers brings the jarate + bushwaka combo which gives him a high chance of survival at close range. In summary, both widow and sniper are really annoying to fight against in their respective games, i'm not saying one is better than other.
@@WeeabooPocky the thing is TF2 is much more nuanced than how you're looking at it, there's plenty of options for sniper (including a sniper dot for when he's scoped in), in overwatch your only saving graces is your tanks pick, map, or if your team has the better widow
Hot take, In the first match the widow was average and the refusal to swap Hog into a Mauga allowed their tank to make space indefinitely making it harder for Cyx's DPS to engage.
Right. But people ignore that and just say widow is broken. I think In the right scenarios sure she’s really really good but she definitely has her weaknesses. And if you purposely don’t play into her weakness you’re going to hit a brick wall if the widow is good
When you nerf all the tanks who are supposed to help shut down oppressive characters, then nerf all the heroes who are supposed to be able to help keep oppressive characters in check this is what happens. It's the same concept as microbuffing a hero but inversed. It's also worth noting; you feel a good widow a lot more in ow2 because there's 1 less meatshield to help deal with it. This isn't advocating for 6v6, just an observation.
Is widowmaker broken.... blizzard designed a fast paced game where you fight FACE TO FACE.......but then had the idea to create a sniper than can sit miles away with 0 counter. Yes she is completely fucking broken.
Widow and Ashe are the only reasons why tanks have headshot reduction I refuse to believe there was any other reason. Queen, hog and zarya get bullied by those 2. We all know blizzard loves hitscans so they buff the tanks instead of nerfing the snipers
@@brycenb2994how would you be the problem? Yeah sure sombra can shred widow with her passive from hack and virus but it’s difficult to even get to a widow with good or decent positioning. So it’s genuinely not their fault if they can’t kill a good widow
@@brycenb2994 cmon stfu, it was a problem for highgrounds on some maps before rework, and now you MUST use skill for invis, WITH sound. So go touch grass if you can, cuz main sombras nowadays hack tanks.....
Bob has been great throughout Overwatch 2 due to mostly Bob being a 2nd tank I have plenty of games where my tank dies but Bob temporarily being our tank is underrated
Nah I feel you- I've been saying this ever since I noticed an uprise in Widows during OW2's life. That character is simply not fair. Even if they aren't hitting headshots she's still doing a crazy amount of damage, and her existence alone makes you play passive.
I dont mind hanzo benig 1 shot because he is not consistent(projectile) and he is really easy to counter beacuse of his lack of mobility my biggest problem with widow is her grappling hook a character that can one shot should have its weaknesses widow doesnt have any. another problem that she is a hit scan so she can hit her shot way easier than hanzo
That first game was so disgusting to watch. I’ve never really understood the people who just hard focus countering the tank when he’s already hard countered
Widow is and always has been a dumb character for a game like overwatch. Hanzo as well to a degree but at least he's not hitscan. In a game with healers there should never be anything that kills you in one shot short of an ultimate.
I want hog to stay the way he is. This state is good. If he gets better than all other tanks, everyone starts playing him and he gets giga nerfed. Keep him this way so he stays a niche pick and i can run around one shotting people hehe
After seeing many comments that widow is broken, she defo going to get rework so my possible reworks thoughts r cuz her sniper is heavy and she’s not well a powerlifter like Zarya, it’s realistic nerf to reduce only aim sensitivity movement and increase the time it takes to reach 100% power to ensure one headshot kill by like at least 5 seconds per one instant kill so she still can do one headshot instant kill just like Hanzo but she will be slower then she used to cuz her gun power needs 5 secs to recharge to 100% that way she shouldn’t be able to eliminate multiple players in a very short time
Widow is bad for the game. Pre rework Sombra is bad for the game. Regardless of what happens to Som, Widow is still bad for the game. Regardless of what happens to Widow, pre rework Som is still bad for the game. 2 wrongs don’t make a right, and you’re not the Joker lil bro
Imma stand on the hill that i feel like Widow isnt too broken. Maybe its because i played Cod so much bacl in the day where quick scoping was everywhere but one thing i notcie overwatch players never do that i think immediately makes Widow immensely weaker is crouching. Like spam crouch crouch for a sec. Anything. I do it all the time in my games and i can tell Widows aren't used to people doing it. Overwatch players just always leave their head hitbox in one area making it easy for widows to flick headshot because your head is always staying a certain area. Just a quick crouch here and there adds so much more variables for the Widow to consider and even if they hit you in the body that still requires two shots at minimum and you can easily get healed or find cover in time before they can shoot again.
Character cant be mildly broken. It either is or not. Broken doesnt mean overpowered, no viable character can be broken too. What defines broken is that character cant be balanced by design, it will either be absolutely unplayable or be dominant force every time.
Im main reaper and i dont think is good a vidow can delete me. I mean, reaper has a big hitbox and a 300hp it like a tank but smaller. And in some maps like this its really dificult to kill him with the most of heroes
Either they drop her down to 175 or add a sniper glint or laser when she scopes in The fact that for u to shut her down, almost de entire team has to pick dive characters or the widow isnt getting any support
so ppl whats wurse? having to watch your back and look out for a sombra? who might not even kill you and leave if they don't kill you or a widow with just a smudge of aim that can one shot you and ruin your fun fr? as a sombra main who has had his hero get nerfed and reworked over and over i call this karma next time dont cry so much and maybe we won't have a horrible one shot hero meta like we have now whats wurse anoying hero or getting one shot? hahahaha huge karma ya cry babys! (cyx this is not ment for you its ment to sombra haters now dealing whit there own choises)
In all reality, shes a strong pick with open sightlines, just as much as junkrat is good on maps with tight spaces. If you kept getting killed by a genji that dashes in gets the 1 shot combo and dashes out, you would complain how broken he is. Whether you like it or not, widow does require some very decent aim and positioning to be effective. If shes holding high ground that oversees your rotations, take other routes, swap your comp up the same way you need to swap when certain heros are pesting you. Is she broken? No, is she strong yes, but how many games do you remember when you roll through a team because they have a stubborn widow that is 5-20. Those 5 kills she has, your going to complain because it was a one shot and unfair? Like you only remember the times you play against a really good widow with decent aim and positioning.
You’re right, I do only remember matches with good Widows. I remember them because they are the least fun I’ve ever had playing an FPS game in my entire life. People don’t utterly despise Widow just because she’s currently broken; OW has had plenty of broken metas and characters but you can still feel as if you have a fighting chance. People utterly despise Widow because her being broken means the game can become literally unplayable. It’s because her skill ceiling is practically limitless. Even the best Junkrat player in the world has limits; Widow does not. An exceptional Widow player can hold an entire team in spawn by herself.
Last game I was basically deleting evrb on zarya having a hell good of a game, team diff was real. Then we lost bc widow was consistently getting 3 kills each team fight.
Cool. If you paid attention and actually watched the video, he also goes into how his DPS can’t do anything about their widow. How much damage does Widow’s full charge do on a headshot while being pelted by the rest of their team do again?
Idk but complaining about a character/player and acknowledging that they are the problem on the other team but not doing anything (swapping) to help mitigate the problem, and then saying "i'm not gonna swap" is backwards. Part of the identity of the game is changing characters and even if your teammates weren't doing "great" they weren't doing terrible. Getting bursted by the mauga every 5 seconds and having to use your entire vape bar also doesn't help.
He was drawing out the engagement just fine; if it weren’t for the Widow shitting on his DPS, the team would’ve been able to handle the Mauga. Swapping tanks to fight the Mauga marginally easier isn’t going to fix the problem.
Widow is definitely broken…she’s already good in 6v6 now in 5v5 with one less tank to pressure her skyrocketed her potential,she definitely needs to be 175 hp like tracer and have a sniper glint then she would be balanced. she should be a high risk high reward kind of character
As a reaper main widow is the bane of my existence
@@ryverburns6541 don’t even feel bad widow is literally the bane of most characters existence simply due to the fact she out ranges 90% of the cast I play hitscan and other characters but going against a good widow is just so annoying and unfun to play against it’s even worse when I’m on tank and I have to swap to help my team deal with widow that’s not only not fun for me but enforces the whole counterwatch game Widow is literally the only character in the game you get free pressure simply by just existing no character in the game should do that
@@ryverburns6541ikr. His head hitbox was already large before the bullet size increase, now its jus nearly impossible to miss if u r somewat good at clicking head
i wouldn't say she's broken per say, Widow like any sniper in any FPS game is inherently strong as well and only thrives when they're left unchecked. Its more like the environment now lets her thrive rather than widow being any better or worse than she ever was. Hell last change in a patch was in FEBURARY. Making her health 175 wont do much if no one can get to her in the first place to pressure her
all you need is a good team that knows how to deal with one, lower health and a glint won't do jackshit if you're dead before seeing the glint anyway
Widow’s character play style just doesn’t belong in this game. Other FPS games put limitations on ammunition or spawn rates of instant death weapons, or make the consequences of death more forgiving like a quick respawn on a small map so you can get back to the action quickly. Widow has access to an instant death weapon at all times. Mix that with a decent respawn time and a hefty walk back from spawn and it isn’t hard to see why she ruins games. She is such a bad idea for the game that Blizzard has had to rework maps and add immortality cooldowns just to give players a chance at not being instantly deleted by Widow. The only other characters capable of doing instant kills have to get close and use limited resources and abilities to create an opportunity for an instant kill with high risk to themselves. As for Widow, if she can see you she can kill you far from your reach and abilities. Widow is a problem that causes suffering for the rest of the Overwatch cast. The only consistent way to solve it as a player is to swap to a hard counter that you probably don’t want to play and target her with some equally infuriating bullshit. Something that becomes more of a hate fueled chore and less of a fun game.
Yeah agreed. However, when she was nerfed with a smaller range she was useless. That rework was terrible and made her unviable but this current state of widow makes the entire enemy team feel awful too.
I personally believe she should have her poison shot from the Olympus event that way you can at least POTENTIALLY survive the instant-kill. This isn't healthy for the gameplay. Especially with the TTK in OW2.
@@Supboiif a character in a video game is either dominating or absolutely useless, it is broken. If you cant balance the character without going to extremes, you are working with flawed design.
@@dronnovik95 Probably yeah. Hanzo is close to Widow's design but his flaw is his projectile speed making him inconsistent. Widow doesn't have that flaw. I'd love to see a reworked version of Widow
@@Supboi i dont believe it is possible to fix hitscan sniper like her. Snipers can never be balanced in hero shooter, or shooter in general. Overwatch probably did it better then anyone and it is still feels extremely terrible
@dronnovik95 My suggestion was to remove her "Insta-kill" ability (because you can be across the map and not be able to do anything against her)
And instead, have damage *overtime* .
Similar to Ana's weapon/Ashe's burn.
Even just 1 healing is enough to cancel the instant death.
However she can always by-pass this by either shooting again, having her team spray this enemy or by spamming bullets from a far distance.
This will automatically make it harder to get instant value however this will still allow her to have the 1 shot ability without destroying her identity.
This allows for teamwork to play a huge part against Widowmaker and lone targets to become highly targeted. Effectively punishing enemies who don't play as a team and rewarding those to stick together.
I will forever hate widow, she completely destroys the flow of the game just by existing. Even if that widow is shit just the threat of being one shot is enough to make people scared.
Yep, no other character makes you feel the same way when they kill you
Uhh yeah no. If your widow is missing most of her shots the “threat” is meaningless
@brycenb2994 you sound like a widow player.
@@brycenb2994 yeah but on pc, if you play a decent bit of widow and play on low sense it’s impossible to not be a threat. I suppose widow is not going to be an issue in the lowest ranks.
@ the fact that you worded it like that genuinely makes me think you’ve never played widow.
Of course a widow that hits her shots can be oppressive in any scenario but she has clear weaknesses that can be exploited
every owl grandfinals literally comes down to better widow and tracer wins
Dude tracer is fked more, shes like a pest. The recall just shouldnt be part of this game as tracer cannot be killed if she wishes so. Curious to see statistics for k/d ratio for tracer. It must be better than tanks..
@@wojciechprzewozniak597mad cuz bad
@@wojciechprzewozniak597 both these heroes are very high skills options, not a problem masters and below, but high sr lobbies see it a lot. I am bored seeing owl finals coming down to these heroes time and time again.
Its not as high skill cap as u think. I saw silver and bronze lobbies (in europe) dominated by 22-0 widows or 13-2 tracers
Well blame Jeff. The only design philosophy that OW seemingly has is that there is a character for everyone. Including the fps god gamer.
Fundamentally flawed gameplay design at its finest.
Widow is broken af
i forget who said it, but i read a comment on another video that said "if any other character had the ability to one shot three people in the span of five seconds, they would be nerfed in an instant." widow for some reason just gets special treatment compared to all the other heroes and i really think it's worth having a conversation about if snipers belong in a game like overwatch.
It’s not really a conversation tbh she’s consistently the most broken character in the game
Because Widow takes skill to headshot someone? Same with Hanzo although to a lesser degree because you can spam into a choke and get a lucky headshot but to do it consistently is a whole other thing.
@@GodsDissapointment Hanzo's most effective range is within the majority of other dps characters most effective range.
Widows most effective range is outside a majority of other dps characters effective range. She's clearly a problem.
It’s not special treatment it’s a sniper archetype.
@@fireboogaloo6871uhhh yes. Kinda how being a sniper works. Not really relevant to the widow argument
Widow one hundred percent needs to just be gutted or reworked. She is the number 1 thing that is unhealthy with the game. Like the difference between ashe and even hanzo vs widow is unbelievable. The fact she has such high kill potential in such a short span of time is not ok. It's boring and nothing fun about it. Counter play is boring, you go dive and dive the widow, or your team goes widow and if your widow sucks gg. Get rid of her
1-shots really have no place in OW. They tried taking it away from Hanzo and then barely even tried to make it work before just reverting him. Honestly, though, even if Hanzo and Widow have to be the worst characters in the game to make it happen, so be it. The health if the game is more important than the viability of 2 characters.
Hot take. Widow isn’t even that unhealthy. People conflate frustrating to play against with being unhealthy which aren’t the same. The reality is a widow player has to be extremely cracked at the game mechanically to get the value she does. And even then the only reason the widow ran this lobby is because no one went dive and the widow on cyx’s team got diffed
@brycenb2994 so something that's inherently frustrating isn't bad for a game? That is some seriously backwards thinking. Fun takes priority over competitive integrity or which character is "mechanically challenging". Otherwise we've completely lost sight of the true purpose of a video game.
OW Players: man, widowmaker is so unfair. she shouldn't be so free to kill from distance.
TF2 Players: First time?.
Sniper isn't nearly as annoying as widow at least he can't quickscope 3 people in 5 seconds
@omarasfari4974 well, theorically he could, the time for scope-in headshots is .2 seconds and the reload time per bullet is 1.5 seconds.
Thats why snipers where so annoying to fight against back in the bot crisis.
@@WeeabooPocky TF2 in general offers more counter-play to sniper plus the movement is infinitely better
@@scwishy nah, i disagree.
Most of the time sniper is really hard to spot unless he uses the machina.
And the "counter-play" you speak about, most of the time envolves getting into him, which is already a hard task due for him to be, most of the time, behind the back-line. And if that wasn't enough, most snipers brings the jarate + bushwaka combo which gives him a high chance of survival at close range.
In summary, both widow and sniper are really annoying to fight against in their respective games, i'm not saying one is better than other.
@@WeeabooPocky the thing is TF2 is much more nuanced than how you're looking at it, there's plenty of options for sniper (including a sniper dot for when he's scoped in), in overwatch your only saving graces is your tanks pick, map, or if your team has the better widow
ive said it before, but overwatch is a game that definitely does not need a one shot sniper in it.
Hot take, In the first match the widow was average and the refusal to swap Hog into a Mauga allowed their tank to make space indefinitely making it harder for Cyx's DPS to engage.
Average
Right. But people ignore that and just say widow is broken. I think In the right scenarios sure she’s really really good but she definitely has her weaknesses. And if you purposely don’t play into her weakness you’re going to hit a brick wall if the widow is good
It's obvious that Widowmaker is OP! A point-and-click character who one-shots 90% of the characters in the game
When you nerf all the tanks who are supposed to help shut down oppressive characters, then nerf all the heroes who are supposed to be able to help keep oppressive characters in check this is what happens. It's the same concept as microbuffing a hero but inversed.
It's also worth noting; you feel a good widow a lot more in ow2 because there's 1 less meatshield to help deal with it. This isn't advocating for 6v6, just an observation.
Holy mackerel a new cyx upload!
She has been forever. Free value one shot the character is horrible
Is widowmaker broken.... blizzard designed a fast paced game where you fight FACE TO FACE.......but then had the idea to create a sniper than can sit miles away with 0 counter. Yes she is completely fucking broken.
I think Bob is so powerful because he applies the DPS passive, if he didn't apply it I don't know if he would be so good.
Good video!
I wish to become a good hog player like you someday 😭
5:08 Thank you I'm glad you said this speaks volumes, get better as a player without relying on the counter picking
It took since pretty much the start of OW1, but the pros are finally talking about how busted Widow is. Took them long enough....
8 out of every 10 games has a Widow in it now. I’d be upset about it, but… I main Ball
Widow and Ashe are the only reasons why tanks have headshot reduction I refuse to believe there was any other reason. Queen, hog and zarya get bullied by those 2. We all know blizzard loves hitscans so they buff the tanks instead of nerfing the snipers
Hanzo headshot as well. There's an old clip on KR where Hanzo headshots Monke with damage boost and storm arrow. Monke gets deleted in less than 5s.
Widow, sombra, ball, doomfist
All these heroes need to go
Widow and sombra need to go. Ball needs a bit more changes to be a bit better and doomfist is good already it’s js people don’t know how to play him
With Sombra rework it just went worse......
If you can’t play sombra into widow after the rework YOURE the problem.
@@brycenb2994how would you be the problem? Yeah sure sombra can shred widow with her passive from hack and virus but it’s difficult to even get to a widow with good or decent positioning. So it’s genuinely not their fault if they can’t kill a good widow
@@brycenb2994 cmon stfu, it was a problem for highgrounds on some maps before rework, and now you MUST use skill for invis, WITH sound. So go touch grass if you can, cuz main sombras nowadays hack tanks.....
21:18 me when i commit crimes with both direction and magnitude:
You make me play hog. So fun and I like the cheeky moves you do like pull them up against the wall as you ult. Lol
1:27 instrumental lowkey hits🤣
"Most un-answerable 1shot in the game" -Samito
Bob has been great throughout Overwatch 2 due to mostly Bob being a 2nd tank I have plenty of games where my tank dies but Bob temporarily being our tank is underrated
I HATE WIDOW FOR A PASSION
lol the thumbnail makes it seem like roadhog himself is going to rant about widow
After sombra rework, I lately saw game where player named Wisps was basically using widow like one-shot kill shotgun....
I'm saying Widow is broken for seasons now. But I'm just getting flamed and laughted at for this 🤓
Nah I feel you- I've been saying this ever since I noticed an uprise in Widows during OW2's life. That character is simply not fair. Even if they aren't hitting headshots she's still doing a crazy amount of damage, and her existence alone makes you play passive.
Cyx the realest for posting losses. Just real.
Widow on Ow.. so boring to play, play against and watch
I dont mind hanzo benig 1 shot because he is not consistent(projectile) and he is really easy to counter beacuse of his lack of mobility my biggest problem with widow is her grappling hook a character that can one shot should have its weaknesses widow doesnt have any. another problem that she is a hit scan so she can hit her shot way easier than hanzo
That first game was so disgusting to watch. I’ve never really understood the people who just hard focus countering the tank when he’s already hard countered
Widow is and always has been a dumb character for a game like overwatch. Hanzo as well to a degree but at least he's not hitscan. In a game with healers there should never be anything that kills you in one shot short of an ultimate.
I have nightmares about the orisa counter swap
I think Widow's gun should be a sniper only. That way she has to hit her shot and not be bailed out with going into machine gun mode.
I want hog to stay the way he is. This state is good. If he gets better than all other tanks, everyone starts playing him and he gets giga nerfed. Keep him this way so he stays a niche pick and i can run around one shotting people hehe
2:17 reaper to antonio in the retribution mission
After seeing many comments that widow is broken, she defo going to get rework so my possible reworks thoughts r cuz her sniper is heavy and she’s not well a powerlifter like Zarya, it’s realistic nerf to reduce only aim sensitivity movement and increase the time it takes to reach 100% power to ensure one headshot kill by like at least 5 seconds per one instant kill so she still can do one headshot instant kill just like Hanzo but she will be slower then she used to cuz her gun power needs 5 secs to recharge to 100% that way she shouldn’t be able to eliminate multiple players in a very short time
Or alternatively cuz it’s heavy gun, make the aim harder to steady like cod snipers have
As a Sombra main, this the widow yall wanted with all your complaints. You get what you deserve.
Widow is bad for the game. Pre rework Sombra is bad for the game. Regardless of what happens to Som, Widow is still bad for the game. Regardless of what happens to Widow, pre rework Som is still bad for the game. 2 wrongs don’t make a right, and you’re not the Joker lil bro
How do you use Whole Hog tbh
Imma stand on the hill that i feel like Widow isnt too broken. Maybe its because i played Cod so much bacl in the day where quick scoping was everywhere but one thing i notcie overwatch players never do that i think immediately makes Widow immensely weaker is crouching. Like spam crouch crouch for a sec. Anything. I do it all the time in my games and i can tell Widows aren't used to people doing it. Overwatch players just always leave their head hitbox in one area making it easy for widows to flick headshot because your head is always staying a certain area. Just a quick crouch here and there adds so much more variables for the Widow to consider and even if they hit you in the body that still requires two shots at minimum and you can easily get healed or find cover in time before they can shoot again.
Character cant be mildly broken. It either is or not. Broken doesnt mean overpowered, no viable character can be broken too. What defines broken is that character cant be balanced by design, it will either be absolutely unplayable or be dominant force every time.
So the counter play to widow is hoping they miss?
Season 9 made it obvious
When you play perfectly and your team does all the damages, but they walk away. OW2 is so broken.
Im main reaper and i dont think is good a vidow can delete me. I mean, reaper has a big hitbox and a 300hp it like a tank but smaller. And in some maps like this its really dificult to kill him with the most of heroes
why the dr mario music in the backround
No "America yaaa". I'm disapointed
MN3 is a pro korean overwatch player
my inspo
They should make it " the first character you choose is the only character you can use" no switching choose wisely
ofc she is broken, what you expect in season with her mythic
esta es la primera vez que digo, ``buffen a sombra´´ widow esta rota
Just revert the goddamn s9 general hp patch so she'll be back at 175 where she belong
Either they drop her down to 175 or add a sniper glint or laser when she scopes in
The fact that for u to shut her down, almost de entire team has to pick dive characters or the widow isnt getting any support
Your Hog is nasty bro
Buh reference
😡 I gonna make you into bacon
You threw by staying hog in a mauga ana snipers game not your team fault at all
america ya? :c
Woooo
so ppl whats wurse?
having to watch your back and look out for a sombra?
who might not even kill you and leave if they don't kill you
or a widow with just a smudge of aim that can one shot you and ruin your fun fr?
as a sombra main who has had his hero get nerfed and reworked over and over
i call this karma next time dont cry so much and maybe we won't have a horrible one shot hero meta like we have now
whats wurse anoying hero or getting one shot? hahahaha huge karma ya cry babys!
(cyx this is not ment for you its ment to sombra haters now dealing whit there own choises)
Or maybe, just maybe both characters are a problem for Ow?😮🤔
In all reality, shes a strong pick with open sightlines, just as much as junkrat is good on maps with tight spaces. If you kept getting killed by a genji that dashes in gets the 1 shot combo and dashes out, you would complain how broken he is. Whether you like it or not, widow does require some very decent aim and positioning to be effective. If shes holding high ground that oversees your rotations, take other routes, swap your comp up the same way you need to swap when certain heros are pesting you. Is she broken? No, is she strong yes, but how many games do you remember when you roll through a team because they have a stubborn widow that is 5-20. Those 5 kills she has, your going to complain because it was a one shot and unfair? Like you only remember the times you play against a really good widow with decent aim and positioning.
You’re right, I do only remember matches with good Widows. I remember them because they are the least fun I’ve ever had playing an FPS game in my entire life.
People don’t utterly despise Widow just because she’s currently broken; OW has had plenty of broken metas and characters but you can still feel as if you have a fighting chance. People utterly despise Widow because her being broken means the game can become literally unplayable.
It’s because her skill ceiling is practically limitless. Even the best Junkrat player in the world has limits; Widow does not. An exceptional Widow player can hold an entire team in spawn by herself.
please stop spam tab click every second 😅 , we watching with you also 😂
widow is just skinny hog
yay
you literally have 750 health and complain about a 170 health widow,. yikes
Last game I was basically deleting evrb on zarya having a hell good of a game, team diff was real. Then we lost bc widow was consistently getting 3 kills each team fight.
Cool. If you paid attention and actually watched the video, he also goes into how his DPS can’t do anything about their widow.
How much damage does Widow’s full charge do on a headshot while being pelted by the rest of their team do again?
I think im a little early
Second
Idk but complaining about a character/player and acknowledging that they are the problem on the other team but not doing anything (swapping) to help mitigate the problem, and then saying "i'm not gonna swap" is backwards. Part of the identity of the game is changing characters and even if your teammates weren't doing "great" they weren't doing terrible. Getting bursted by the mauga every 5 seconds and having to use your entire vape bar also doesn't help.
He was drawing out the engagement just fine; if it weren’t for the Widow shitting on his DPS, the team would’ve been able to handle the Mauga. Swapping tanks to fight the Mauga marginally easier isn’t going to fix the problem.
@@MeanAndPristineI meant swapping to dive the widow
How can you play hog with any sense of pride, it's as good as having dev hold your hand.
Because he’s been playing it forever, he played and won tons of games when hog was shit, so let the hog players have fun for once
@@MrNobodyNR nah, delete hog
widow isnt broken, its a high skill high reward hero