I work for a spring company for years and their R&D development lab. Do not forget the heat set the spring. It will give it a much longer longevity and a consistent Force. This can be done by sticking in an oven at a relatively high temperature. This is dependent upon what type of material you are using. Between 350 and 800° Fahrenheit. Overall a very nice job keep up the good work. Most of his Heat Treating was done between 500 and 600 degrees Fahrenheit. And only for a few minutes. As the diameter was very small.
spring steel wire- the right heat and oil ??--In most cases, springs are made from one of these widely used spring materials: Stainless Steel - This spring material is a cold drawn general-purpose wire that offers corrosion and heat resistance. Music Wire - As a spring material, music or piano wire is the highest quality cold drawn, high carbon wire.
Forging of the steel starts at 1050°C to, finish at 850°. Hot forming to require spring shape is done at 900-820°C, and then sub-critically annealed at 640 to 700°C to have a hardness of 225 BHN. Normalising is done at 850 to 880°C.
Thanks for sharing your professional knowledge and helping DIYers like us. One question - how long to heat the springs and also is there a specific cooling process involved, or just let it naturally cool down in the oven or outside? Thanks again.
So simple an idea! Brilliant, easy for anyone to make. Thanks for this! I was an aerospace mechanical engineer for years, and appreciate simple but clever mechanisms.
I am amazed the simplicity but very clever on how you invented such idea, l am a Zipline builder and installer this will help me develop on how to fabricate bigger spring for braking system. Thank you much for your innovative idea.
Nice idea. Put the handle on the other end of the rod and put a slot instead of a hole in the rod to start the spring. Then it can be easily removed once wound.
interesting, similar to your video, i put a few deep nuts in a vice like that, and run my threaded rod back and forth a bunch of times with a drill, to straighten out bent threaded rods. ( probably only works with smaller rods more prone to being bent)
This is awesome and the comments are great! It's a little different than the method I use. What I do is grab a couple of bucks and then go down to the local hardware store and buy one.
Hi! Thanksnso much for posting this! Brilliant really. I know this was a while ago for you but what if you need a coil with long pigtails on each end? How can that be accomplished? Im thinking a notched rod but dont know if thats the best way. Thanks in advance!
What a great build! It beats the hell out of how I’ve made them by hand, with drill rod and a cordless drill. The wood screw for the handle cracks me up though, because it is the least comfortable one I’ve ever seen! At least drive it into a wooden handle.
Nice! Simple & strait forward,but what if as in my case the spring wind is the opposite direction? I need to produce a spring that is counter clock. I guess I'll just use a 3/8 dowel & slot the end. Sucks to not have the threads to guide the wire
Nice Idea and good job . But there is a missing step that is to harden the steel rods after you make the spring . Needs to be heated from 500 to 800 and that depends on the type of steel to be harden or most people would say tempered . A person can go as fair as using stainless steel and that needs to be harden also . There is also brass springs . The best time to make springs is in the early Spring . Never ever make springs in the late Spring .
OMG that is such a good method of making these. I make jewlery and I have spent so many hours making devices to create jump rings and I saw this and my hand hit my face so hard, like fuck that is a good idea.
I need to fabricate a spring with a slightly larger diameter halfway along the spring for a very short length.. Both ends will remain smallest diameter. How can this be done? In other words there must be a bulge in the spring somewhere ialong the length but not the ends. Thank you in advance. The spring has no mechanical function except as a guide for a rod in a tube.
In the absence of a reply from GreenSaw: 1 - M12 has a pitch of 1.75mm. So the wire appears to be about 1mm dia. Say 18AWG (or 19SWG if you can find it!) 2 - In the absence of "Spring wire" you can use piano wire (Music wire in US). It wouldn't need heat treatment if only bent once (so look out for the ends!) and might spring open to a larger diameter when slipped off the screw-rod.
Thank you Clive Crosbie. I wrote that I used 1mm wire in the video. A medium hard wire. I can find it as cage wire around here. It may be possible to make stronger springs with harder wires.
Yes, I just turn a mandrel to the size that makes a spring the right size allowing for expansion. I drill a hole and wind by hand on the lathe using spring wire or piano wire.
Grandiose Vorgehensweise, jetzt noch mit Brenner kirschrot glühen und in Öl abschrecken. Nach Abkühlung im Backofen auf 190 Grad erhitzen und im Wasser abschrecken. 190 Grad ist strohgelb, nun ist deine Feder bis zum Lebensende deiner Urenkel federhart und elastisch.
I needed to make a spring-shaped resistance, 1.0 meter long. I used a 1.25 meter long 5/16" screw. It took me a day to get the resistance (spring) off the screw. I do not advise using this technique with long springs.
If you try to wind it off the handle end as in the video the sring will tighten on to the rod. Instead of backing it towards the winder, advance it towards the other end of the threaded rod, then the spring will increase slightly in size and screw off easily.
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Want small diam compression (3/16 to 1/4" diam) short springs (3/16 - 3/8"L). =============================================================== these r expansion springs, like the one used in a garage door opening n closing. what about making compression coil springs? The spindle thread must b more rough. I guess use a rough threaded wooden screw for the spindle? the prob. i have is to make smaller diam expansion springs for scale 1/32 model live steam locomotives. No prob getting coil springs for the driver wheel brass/bronze journal boxes commercially but to spring the front n rear truck, need to make 3/16 to 1/4"diam expansion coil springs. i can get those at Lowe's or local h/w store but i must cut to length and the cut end won't set square. Tried to bend the whisker wire at the end of the spring but can't merge it w the adjacent coil. Any solution?
Nice idea, but what wire was used? Does it need to be heat treated/tempered afterwards or is it pre-tempered? Google Translate Güzel fikir, ama hangi tel kullanıldı? Daha sonra ısıl işlem/tavlama mı gerekiyor yoksa önceden mi tavlanmış?
I think, there is little bit more to making spring, then making the shape. You make custom spring for specific application with specific requirements: overal length, diameter, pitch, size of wire, comression or extention travel limits, force needed to compress or extend it, life of the spring-how many comressions or extentions it will last. Now, how do you proceed, to calculate and select proper material and heat treatment procedures to satisfy that?! And of course, how do you go about giving it thespecific shape?!
If you use piano wire, after forming bake the spring in an oven at about 375 F for half an hour. That will stress relieve it. But you cannot temper low carbon steel.
This is an incredibly overcomplex way to make a spring. Personally i just wind wire around a cylinder, and stretch it to desired length afterwards, then heat treat for hardening.
I just ride over to a local hardware store and buy what I need. Never been unable to find what I needed and the springs are proven to be produced with performance and longevity in mind. Usually less than $5.
I work for a spring company for years and their R&D development lab. Do not forget the heat set the spring. It will give it a much longer longevity and a consistent Force. This can be done by sticking in an oven at a relatively high temperature. This is dependent upon what type of material you are using. Between 350 and 800° Fahrenheit. Overall a very nice job keep up the good work. Most of his Heat Treating was done between 500 and 600 degrees Fahrenheit. And only for a few minutes. As the diameter was very small.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I'm glad you liked it. Kind regards.
How long in oven?
spring steel wire- the right heat and oil ??--In most cases, springs are made from one of these widely used spring materials: Stainless Steel - This spring material is a cold drawn general-purpose wire that offers corrosion and heat resistance. Music Wire - As a spring material, music or piano wire is the highest quality cold drawn, high carbon wire.
Forging of the steel starts at 1050°C to, finish at 850°. Hot forming to require spring shape is done at 900-820°C, and then sub-critically annealed at 640 to 700°C to have a hardness of 225 BHN. Normalising is done at 850 to 880°C.
Thanks for sharing your professional knowledge and helping DIYers like us. One question - how long to heat the springs and also is there a specific cooling process involved, or just let it naturally cool down in the oven or outside? Thanks again.
So simple an idea! Brilliant, easy for anyone to make. Thanks for this! I was an aerospace mechanical engineer for years, and appreciate simple but clever mechanisms.
Thanks for your beautiful comment. Kind regards.
Excellent!! Thanks to share your works !! 👍
Great! This method is much safer than machining with a lathe, and can also produce long springs. Thank you.
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So wonderful work
So great too 🤩
I am amazed the simplicity but very clever on how you invented such idea, l am a Zipline builder and installer this will help me develop on how to fabricate bigger spring for braking system. Thank you much for your innovative idea.
Nice idea. Put the handle on the other end of the rod and put a slot instead of a hole in the rod to start the spring. Then it can be easily removed once wound.
Great! Thank you for sharing this brilliant idea.
I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for your beautiful comment.
interesting, similar to your video, i put a few deep nuts in a vice like that, and run my threaded rod back and forth a bunch of times with a drill, to straighten out bent threaded rods. ( probably only works with smaller rods more prone to being bent)
These are the videos that kids need to watch .
perfect and simple! Thanks
Good idea for my grandson to make whilst on school holidays
This is awesome and the comments are great! It's a little different than the method I use. What I do is grab a couple of bucks and then go down to the local hardware store and buy one.
😂 yeah but you can't have all type of spring in your hardware store ... . Make your own sometime is the only good solution.
The day may come when your dollar produces Magic no more. Then you will find out what your worth.
Great idea i'm going to make spring for my projects
Excellent. Greetings from Ireland
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Brilliant idea, dude! Really fantastic work! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I am from India, good job.
nice creation very very good job
¡Excelente!☺👏👏👏👏Saludos desde Argentina👋
Gracias. Saludos.
Very nice....
From INDIA. Tamil nadu.
Hi! Thanksnso much for posting this! Brilliant really. I know this was a while ago for you but what if you need a coil with long pigtails on each end? How can that be accomplished? Im thinking a notched rod but dont know if thats the best way. Thanks in advance!
Very good work 👍
Creative video, thanks for sharing :)
Thanks the Lot !
Simply amazing 🌏🇦🇺
Good idea & it is useful !
very cool idea
What a great build! It beats the hell out of how I’ve made them by hand, with drill rod and a cordless drill.
The wood screw for the handle cracks me up though, because it is the least comfortable one I’ve ever seen! At least drive it into a wooden handle.
la façon artisanale de faire des ressorts , bravo belle intelligence
Thank s , that is easy no needs the machine to make, the best home D I Y , this is pulling spring, but how you make push spring?👍👍✋.
That is a real knowledge sharing, thanks alot!!
What type of steel do you used to create the coil and how to make it flexible?
Nice! Simple & strait forward,but what if as in my case the spring wind is the opposite direction? I need to produce a spring that is counter clock. I guess I'll just use a 3/8 dowel & slot the end. Sucks to not have the threads to guide the wire
Nice Idea and good job . But there is a missing step that is to harden the steel rods after you make the spring . Needs to be heated from 500 to 800 and that depends on the type of steel to be harden or most people would say tempered . A person can go as fair as using stainless steel and that needs to be harden also . There is also brass springs . The best time to make springs is in the early Spring . Never ever make springs in the late Spring .
Haha. Corny but funny anyway.
Yes, and only make them in the dark of the moon, never when the moon is approaching full brightness or they will have a poor snap back!
And never make springs when the Springboks rugby team loses...........
Guy just went from professional advice to complete rubbish, but how smoothly XD
How do you make springs that have hook ends to catch on to pins ??
You can bend it using pliers.
@@GreenSaw Thanks fella.
Great idea, really cool, can you make compression springs?
Hello, I'm glad you like it. can be make
Você não faz a têmpera do metal? Fico curioso sobre a resistência da mola para tração
Eu não tentei.
It's been said below by others....Pretty cool!
Great idea indeed!!!
good idea, very good
Where you purchase your 1mm wire from?
I need to make a very small spring like 3mm ,
Seriously great idea though well done
You can take the spring from a ballpoint pen. Thank you for watching and commenting on my video.
@@GreenSaw thank you for your idea , I shall try , your very welcome I wish you all the best
Very good jab Godbelsyo T.q you
OMG that is such a good method of making these. I make jewlery and I have spent so many hours making devices to create jump rings and I saw this and my hand hit my face so hard, like fuck that is a good idea.
How do you do the stress relief after forming the spring?
Thank you
good work
That's awesome! Love it. Can you make both tension and compression springs? Thanks
Dear friend nice vedio and sprien
Dear friend how is the spren both side wire need long ?
Hi!!! How to stretch it?
hi what kind of wires that you use to make it turn?
Can make spring 10m ?
What material do you use for the spring?
I used a hard wire I don't know its properties
I need to fabricate a spring with a slightly larger diameter halfway along the spring for a very short length.. Both ends will remain smallest diameter. How can this be done? In other words there must be a bulge in the spring somewhere ialong the length but not the ends. Thank you in advance. The spring has no mechanical function except as a guide for a rod in a tube.
what kind of wire is used?
how about a compression spring ?
Mojy ya machine bani hoi mil jay gi kitny ki or kahan sy
wonder if piano string would work better? plus you wouldn't need to harden them.
Piano string as well as guitar strings work well. REVOLUTION!!
In the absence of a reply from GreenSaw:
1 - M12 has a pitch of 1.75mm. So the wire appears to be about 1mm dia. Say 18AWG (or 19SWG if you can find it!)
2 - In the absence of "Spring wire" you can use piano wire (Music wire in US). It wouldn't need heat treatment if only bent once (so look out for the ends!) and might spring open to a larger diameter when slipped off the screw-rod.
Thank you Clive Crosbie. I wrote that I used 1mm wire in the video. A medium hard wire. I can find it as cage wire around here. It may be possible to make stronger springs with harder wires.
Good job
Does this mean that we must make different jigs with different threaded rods for different wire gages?
Yes, I just turn a mandrel to the size that makes a spring the right size allowing for expansion. I drill a hole and wind by hand on the lathe using spring wire or piano wire.
good one
Bien..y el templado? Si se presiona sin templar quedara sin expandir, por lo tanto no sera un buen resorte!
Brilliant
Merci beaucoup pour la vidéo
great
Grandiose Vorgehensweise, jetzt noch mit Brenner kirschrot glühen und in Öl abschrecken. Nach Abkühlung im Backofen auf 190 Grad erhitzen und im Wasser abschrecken. 190 Grad ist strohgelb, nun ist deine Feder bis zum Lebensende deiner Urenkel federhart und elastisch.
What kind of metal did you use to make the spring???
Comprá alambre de Acero
Steel wire. But is necesary to aplie hot to the spring.
I needed to make a spring-shaped resistance, 1.0 meter long. I used a 1.25 meter long 5/16" screw. It took me a day to get the resistance (spring) off the screw.
I do not advise using this technique with long springs.
If you try to wind it off the handle end as in the video the sring will tighten on to the rod. Instead of backing it towards the winder, advance it towards the other end of the threaded rod, then the spring will increase slightly in size and screw off easily.
Kolay gelsin 👍🏼 :)
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@@GreenSaw neyi kast ettiğinizi tam anlamadım, lütfen mazur görün ama tüm projelerinizin basit ve gerçekten işlevsel olması çok hoşuma gidiyor. Merakla devamını bekliyoruz. Kolay gelsin tekrardan
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No heat treating? Pre- tempered wire? 👍
No, I don't do heat treatment.
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Want small diam compression (3/16 to 1/4" diam) short springs (3/16 - 3/8"L).
===============================================================
these r expansion springs, like the one used in a garage door opening n closing.
what about making compression coil springs? The spindle thread must b more
rough. I guess use a rough threaded wooden screw for the spindle?
the prob. i have is to make smaller diam expansion springs for scale 1/32
model live steam locomotives. No prob getting coil springs for the driver
wheel brass/bronze journal boxes commercially but to spring the front n rear
truck, need to make 3/16 to 1/4"diam expansion coil springs. i can get those
at Lowe's or local h/w store but i must cut to length and the cut end won't
set square. Tried to bend the whisker wire at the end of the spring but can't
merge it w the adjacent coil. Any solution?
Отлично !👍
Nice idea, but what wire was used? Does it need to be heat treated/tempered afterwards or is it pre-tempered?
Google Translate
Güzel fikir, ama hangi tel kullanıldı? Daha sonra ısıl işlem/tavlama mı gerekiyor yoksa önceden mi tavlanmış?
I do not do heat treatment. I used medium hard wire, but stronger springs can be made with harder wires. You can use music wire if you want.
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I think, there is little bit more to making spring, then making the shape. You make custom spring for specific application with specific requirements: overal length, diameter, pitch, size of wire, comression or extention travel limits, force needed to compress or extend it, life of the spring-how many comressions or extentions it will last. Now, how do you proceed, to calculate and select proper material and heat treatment procedures to satisfy that?! And of course, how do you go about giving it thespecific shape?!
Great idea! What kind of wire is used please? Does the Spring have to be heat treated after making? Thanks and regards, Marty (UK)
I'm glad you liked it. Thank you. I do not do heat treatment. I used medium hardness 1mm wire. It is possible to make stronger springs with hard wire.
@@GreenSaw Thank you for your reply. Looking forward to your future videos! Regards, Marty (UK)
Piano wire. At least that is what we call it in Alberta. Available at train and plane hobby shops.
If you use piano wire, after forming bake the spring in an oven at about 375 F for half an hour. That will stress relieve it. But you cannot temper low carbon steel.
REVOLUTION!!
that is a twisted roll of wire its not spring steel? You do not importantly mention what type of wire used?
Wire selection is yours. Hard wire is hard spring, soft wire is soft spring.
This is also a good way to make jump rings for making chains or chainmail.
I'm from Sri Lanka,
Nice video! Going to subscribe to help your channel!
you must have good iron elastic ones not ordinary
This is an incredibly overcomplex way to make a spring. Personally i just wind wire around a cylinder, and stretch it to desired length afterwards, then heat treat for hardening.
Where is your video? I'd like to see it. REVOLUTION!!
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I just ride over to a local hardware store and buy what I need. Never been unable to find what I needed and the springs are proven to be produced with performance and longevity in mind. Usually less than $5.
Smart
Alambre elastico
With this rod you can make only one size springs
Excellent observation Captain Obvious.🤓🍑
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В свое время в кружке умелые руки ещё не такие вещи учудили....
Congrats, you now have a hundred dollar spring worth 15 cents.
He's making a bunch more to make up for the loss. REVOLUTION!!
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The spring did not spring back, it stretched. Smh. Try again.
Why said it easy ?
That's great. But you don't have to drill into the threaded bar, just give the first turn of the wire on the threads with your hand. 👍