MUST WATCH Dutch WAR Movie: Reaction to The Forgotten Battle

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  • Amateur Historian reacts and analyses The Battle of the Scheldt (1944) as depicted in the Dutch War film called "The Forgotten Battle", or as in the original version "De Slag om de Schelde". This movie is interesting, give it a watch.
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  • @historylegends
    @historylegends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

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    • @sedsseds1189
      @sedsseds1189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is on the left you just see it on the right

    • @zaynevanbommel5983
      @zaynevanbommel5983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By that stage in 1944 the Germans would have been combat hardened veterans

    • @zaynevanbommel5983
      @zaynevanbommel5983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      More Dutch WW2 Movies
      A
      The Assault (1986 film)
      B
      Band Of Brothers 2 Episodes
      Black Book (film)
      C
      Colette (2013 film)
      D
      Dunkirk (2017 film) (Im not sure why they put this in here lol)
      E
      Ergens in Nederland
      F
      For a Lost Soldier
      The Forgotten Battle
      Frankenstein's Army
      I
      In the Fog
      R
      Riphagen
      The Resistance Banker
      S
      Secrets of War (film)
      The Silent Raid
      Soldier of Orange
      Süskind (film)
      W
      Winter in Wartime (film)

    • @zaynevanbommel5983
      @zaynevanbommel5983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Reason they went for gilders were several reasons first they were cheap second they were mostly made out of wood and some aluminium also they could double the number of Troops on the ground the towing Plane usually had Paratroopers and release the Gliders then Drop the Paras also the training for Gliders was less than that of a Pilots Training after a Drop they would try and recover the Gliders and refurbish them for reuse

    • @zaynevanbommel5983
      @zaynevanbommel5983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      so that clears up where you are from lol Canada oh Canada

  • @jimomaha7809
    @jimomaha7809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    5:13 The Dutch guy is not part of the Waffen SS. The info you found is incorrect about him being member of the SSin the movie. Several Dutchmen also had joined other German units. Some Dutchmen prefered other units as the SS. So historical probable. What detail is overlooked that when he is burying the mine next to him is the American clone of the German folding shovel. 16:54 This glider scene is based on an actual glider. Staff -Sgt Black who crash landed in that area on the second day. He transported a jeep and a trailer and the few men who manned the jeep and a Dutch commando who was attached as a interpreter. The uniforms are correct. Apart that the gliderpilots normaly would have worn a wing above the left pocket. And the men with the helmets all have webbing chinstraps, but most would have helmets with black leather chinstraps. 21:14 that aircraft is not an Albemarle.(were used on the first day), its actually an Handley Page Halifax (a bomber). Bombers were used to tow glider. But these units were trained for airborne force units. Apart from towing gliders they also could drop paratroops and many also did special weapon drops for resistance groups. 27:26 The vehicles look like American White M3 scout cars, also used by Canadians and British and a (rare!) Canadian Otter scoutcar. 32:40 In a British infantry section 44-45 of 10 men the section commander most of the time a corporal would carry a sten. It would also contain a 3 man bren group containing 1 Bren gunner with a leader and no 2 gunner /helper In the ten men section 8 would carry an enfield rifle. In this film they carry the wrong (older) type No1 MKIII enfield should be the no4 enfield. 46:07 I also see a distict lack of the use of handgrenades. if your gonna charge first throw a load of grenades.

    • @historylegends
      @historylegends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Thank you for answering all my questions! Learned a lot 🙏🙏 and you made interesting points

    • @mikehazeleger9278
      @mikehazeleger9278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "The Dutch guy is not part of the Waffen SS. The info you found is incorrect about him being member of the SSin the movie. Several Dutchmen also had joined other German units. Some Dutchmen prefered other units as the SS. So historical probable."
      I'm someone who has more than an average interest in WWII and have had for at least 15 years. In all my years researching and reading about WWII, I have literally NEVER found a Dutchman serving in 'another German unit' as you would call it.
      Dutch nationals were simply not allowed to serve in German ARMY units, period. The one exception may have been if they had been Volksdeutsche (their parents were German, migrated to the Netherlands but they themselves were born in the Netherlands). Dutchmen who fought on the frontlines in Russia were recruited solely by the SS (at first as part of the Wiking Division and as part of the Dutch Volunteer Legion SS).
      So it's safe to assume the Dutch guy is part of the SS (Something which is also advertised by the movie itself where it's stated he's part of the 2.SS-Division 'Das Reich').

    • @mikehazeleger9278
      @mikehazeleger9278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@historylegends The movie itself states the Dutch SS guy is part of the 2.SS-Division 'Das Reich'. Which seems rather random to me, since most Dutchmen would tend to serve in other units.

    • @commoncriminal923
      @commoncriminal923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make your own channel

    • @JohnJameson18y
      @JohnJameson18y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@historylegends Want another mistake? 36:30 The 88mm Flak would auto eject the empty shell case, no need to manually empty the breech.
      Also, why don't the Canadians have any gear on them? No e-tools, no scabbarts, no haversack...

  • @savagepancake9110
    @savagepancake9110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Absolutely love this. Has a Canadian myself and having former family served in this war it's that much more personal and touching. You don't get too many Canadian veiw of WW2 so I loved this film.

    • @teeshahampton5141
      @teeshahampton5141 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was supposed to depict a life as a british and German soilder in WWII

  • @juanmontoya6622
    @juanmontoya6622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Dude, you have a gift to be a movie Director. May you encounter funding and distribution support to produce impactful war movies. There are lots of untold war stories that are both soul stirring and profitable as well.
    Happy Holidays.

    • @gasperstarina9837
      @gasperstarina9837 ปีที่แล้ว

      True..also you have hours of german soldiers diaries from the front and just hardly imagine how bad it was even at the beggining of Barbarosa..check for the diaries it is amazing and scarier than any movie, listening forst hand reality on the front

  • @Rubycon99
    @Rubycon99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Unless I'm mistaken, didn't some German soldiers use their gas mask canisters as extra storage? So it wouldn't be quite so pointless to have.

    • @ismarwinkelman5648
      @ismarwinkelman5648 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are absolutely right! Those ribbed cans were quite sturdy and waterproof, so anything from cigarettes or personal effects like diaries or pictures could be kept safe from the elements. When you see pictures of Wehrmacht soldiers deployed not even close to the front, a lot of them still carried them.

    • @gew43
      @gew43 ปีที่แล้ว

      that why u don't see that many gas mask bags on the cans because you don't need the mask if you are using the can for storage @@ismarwinkelman5648

    • @teremin
      @teremin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used to have one years ago. Amazing for camping, etc.

  • @donnys2965
    @donnys2965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don’t be sorry that you are stopping. this is your video, your take and I like all the side notes. Makes me think differently and study history differently. Thanks for another great video

  • @Bosanac-cg6zc
    @Bosanac-cg6zc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    20:15 you should watch the whole movie. It's like a story about him and some others. He was injured in the eastern front and then sent to the west to work in office but did something wrong. So he was sent to the western front

    • @historylegends
      @historylegends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I did watch it all, but I wasn’t convinced by their story

    • @jamesgordon177
      @jamesgordon177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would he talk about a movie he hasnt watched? Use common sense lad

    • @redcardinalist
      @redcardinalist ปีที่แล้ว

      @@historylegends Also, can't say I have much sympathy. Would much rather see more movies about the Allies. However, I guess the obession/fetishisation of the German armed forces continues to this day amongst movie creators...

  • @WillieCuz
    @WillieCuz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When you mentioned the Market Garden gliders, I remembered that in Brothers in Arms Hells Highway, Baker was in that extra seat instead of an extra pilot, just you said! Very cool

  • @lumpy3408
    @lumpy3408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My uncle served in the Black Watch (*The real Black Watch, Scotland) and was involved in the Market Garden Operation, and served as a Paratrooper at Arnhem, and later went to the SAS. I grew up with all sorts of useful advice and have a WW2 grenade he taught British Paratroopers how to use in the cutaway form. It's now my office paperweight and I should really donate it to the British Imperial War Museum in London, considering it's history!

  • @MountainDewComacho494
    @MountainDewComacho494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    At 46:15, you are correct about the grenade. When I threw a grenade in basic training, I was kind of bummed that it was nothing like how it was portrayed in the movies. A loud bang and maybe a little smoke. Pretty deadly though. I am also surprised how few grenades they used in assaulting that trench. The US Army training manual on assaulting a trench has you use a bunch of grenades.

  • @DardoUltimate
    @DardoUltimate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mate, I been watching a couple of vids from you, and you have a fun lighthearted commentary. I cannot shake this feeling in my head of how much of a heart attack you would have watching a movie like "Red Tails".

  • @rogervandusen8361
    @rogervandusen8361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    From my own limited understanding of the World Wars, I have been drawn to the conclusion that the Canadians were regarded by the British as crack assault troops capable of almost any feat of arms. This reputation, whether justified or not, began on the Western Front in the Great War.

    • @Christopher.Colberg
      @Christopher.Colberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard the same

    • @jimmyjames2621
      @jimmyjames2621 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you meant to say cannon fodder, FIFY.

  • @blueshark7385
    @blueshark7385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    21:05 bruh that's a Handley Page Halifax, not an Albermarle. Albermale's have two engines, the Halifax has four. The Albermale was originally designed to be a bomber, though was never really used as one, it could still carry bombs in an internal bomb bay, and it had four defensinve machine guns guns in a dorsal turret.

  • @chrisshaw7235
    @chrisshaw7235 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TheCanadian Black Watch had many successive battles in the 2nd ww. Not to mention being one of the best regiments in battle after battle in the first world war. They captured Mons at the end of the war and had led the battle to get there over the last few months of the war.

  • @thijsvanderheide7540
    @thijsvanderheide7540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Fun fact: the mg42 was capable of being fed from the left and right side.
    Love the videos man keep it up😀

    • @thijsvanderheide7540
      @thijsvanderheide7540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Forgot to mention that most german soldier fed it crom the left side to avoid the bullet casings from blocking their view

    • @Kristoph109
      @Kristoph109 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh wow, did not know that!

  • @SantomPh
    @SantomPh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:26 it's explained in the movie that this character along with some of the boys in his village fell in love with Nazism and went to a training camp in Germany, becoming fluent in German and becoming posted to a German speaking unit. The SS units you spoke of were Dutch volunteers recruited in-country. The man that walks off to die was the last of his village buddies.
    He is later seen going back to his village, thanks to the intervention of a wounded Dutch lieutenant also serving in the Axis army who has become suicidal. He was going back to the front line, either on the Eastern Front or on the western front. The Lt did him a favor by pulling some strings and getting him sent home to the Netherlands instead.
    The commander of the town's garrison recognizes him as a local Dutchman, making him an unwilling translator and open target for the local resistance, many of whom he knew as a boy.
    41:55 in the movie, before the British soldier is rescued, the Scottish Major General is indeed arguing with the Canadian commander about assaulting the causeway. The Scots have been looking for a way to cross the river to flank the Germans with no success.
    The movie only adds the conceit that local resistance sent a boat with a pair of female members, one of whom makes it to the Allied camp with a map of the river bed (in truth the Scots found the way themselves).
    The scene you reviewed may be 'inaccurate' but the movie explains some of them, as strange as they are.

  • @cameronevans4635
    @cameronevans4635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    21:01 where you point out the aircraft, it's actually a Handley Page Halifax Bomber, they were used as Glider Tows aswell in Market Garden

  • @jefesalsero
    @jefesalsero ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @claylyne1309
    @claylyne1309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Only discovered your channel a week ago and it's becoming one of my top favourites by far, as a history student from Australia 🇦🇺

  • @jirijohn1640
    @jirijohn1640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    16:40 Why are there only 5 soldiers in a glider?
    Well. There is a camera, cameraman, director, sound guy, etc... :D :D

  • @dragospeta3812
    @dragospeta3812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was the 2nd Black Day for the Black Watch since D Day. Here they attacked at the crack of dawn about 2h later than they should have done.... they've lost the cover of the dark. But Canadians were not canon fodder but crack troops. Got an excellent film called "Snipers of the Black Watch" it's about snipers and the Black Watch.

  • @HoChiMeme
    @HoChiMeme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love to see the turtle shell helmet represented in film

  • @GannicusMisteriosdeHonduras
    @GannicusMisteriosdeHonduras 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your insight, just subbed

  • @ArKay-nj2nh
    @ArKay-nj2nh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, just found out 5 Years ago my Father was in a Canadian Armoured Regiment during WWII. All I had know was bits and pieces of his whereabouts during WWII. He didn't talk about the War but would talk about, and explained, what he saw, different pieces of equipment, which he would later show me, when I was a Kid in Gagetown. Armoured Cars, played with and aimed Howitzers, Crawled around on and in Tanks. Now, he also, sometime during the War, was teaching radio operators. I knew during WWII he was in North Africa, Sicily and Italy but didn't know after Italy he would drive up the Atlantic Wall and then Liberate Holland with The 8th ( New Brunswick ) Hussars, realizing he was in a Sherman Tank. I had seen, with out knowing it, recreated Battles with His Regiment on 'Greatest Tank Battles'. There's also a Book written about The 8th Hussars called 'Steel Cavalry'. Seems there was an American General who was very impressed with Their Camo Jobs. He said the best. It was noted They were also crazy with their long range, howitzer style shots with HE. I believe it's written that about 10 Took Out, destroyed, a hole enemy infested main intersection while they were waiting around for Orders. Thought they would 'Practice', couldn't see the target, didn't think they would reach them, very rewarding 'Practice' This is all from the Book. Does anybody know of any other history of this Regiment ?

  • @crumpetcommandos779
    @crumpetcommandos779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for ur question at 32:32, out of the standard 8-10 man british section there would usually be 1 or 2 sten guns used by the corporal and the lance corporal

  • @rolfagten857
    @rolfagten857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Actually, the battle in Zeeland (NL) was an amphibious assault with Royal Marines as well. The problem was too many actors, they should have focused on the German and British soldiers and the battle. There were also many Dutchmen in regiment "Wiking". Almost as good a review as Bacuffz!🤙😆

  • @spygineer1076
    @spygineer1076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    47 minutes of historylegends, let's go!

  • @ac9356
    @ac9356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I remember correctly the reason y the glider pilot wants to detach is cuz how damaged the glider is would bring the aircraft down that is towing them

  • @damiangroen9408
    @damiangroen9408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it is easely to overlook the human factor of war, soldiers can get scared to, human instinct can kick in as well

  • @lordbeaverhistory
    @lordbeaverhistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Dutch guy, who fought on the eastern front has a pretty long Story.
    He got wounded and landed in an SS Field Hospital. Then he moved to the netherlands, as assistant of SS or Gestapo City Commander. He got fired and was send to the troops guarding the Defenses

  • @defectiveclone8450
    @defectiveclone8450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great movie.. great camera work.. loved it

  • @codyfranklin8337
    @codyfranklin8337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m pretty Sure you can load a mg42 from left and the right depending on the model. I know when I was in the army on the m240C you can load it on the right side but it did not have a butt stock on it, but we had them mounted on the m2A3 Bradley.

  • @WolfCampbell
    @WolfCampbell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a Great uncle in 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich ,he was a tank commander involved in the Invasion of The Soviet Union ,Operation Barbarossa ,Etc . He was captured after The Battle of Kursk .

  • @christopherricciardella5397
    @christopherricciardella5397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you made this video because this is my favorite war movie.

  • @jeroenfrankruijter9976
    @jeroenfrankruijter9976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see people from other countries watching our movies we don’t get that much. Also the battles in WW2 in my country are.. forgotten that’s why I love this movie 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱 also nice that the Canadians helped us and the Brits.
    Also a lot of Young Dutch man fledge the UK in boats that’s why there is a Dutch one. Anyway love this movie thank you for watching it

    • @frostybigman5070
      @frostybigman5070 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really love the movie! CGI was on point maybe some mistakes but thats normal in movies. But other than that amazing acting 10/10

  • @Bigrago1
    @Bigrago1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I found the movie fine but it tries to show to much, it shows parts of Operation Market Garden and follows the British paratroopers on this fictional foray , a Dutchman in the Wehrmacht, the Dutch Resistance, then the Canadians.
    The movie should have just focused on the actual Battle for the Sheldt and have the focus be on the 2nd Canadian Division's role in the battle or just the Black Watch.
    For the Battle of the Scheldt it really is going to take more than just one movie to tell it because not only would you have to portrayed the battle for Walcheren but also South and North Beveland, the Breskens Pocket and the operations that occurred to cut off South Beveland from the rest of the Netherlands that not only involved the Canadians but also the British, Poles and Americans.
    Personally I think it would take around 7-8 movie to fully tell the story of the Battle of the Scheldt.

  • @fishgames3710
    @fishgames3710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:10 it can also have the early model Machinepistol 43 which was the early design of the Surmgewehr 44 (Stg 44)

    • @leoaraujo8590
      @leoaraujo8590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The MP43 was the early name of the STG44 but they were the same gun, the gun you're thinking about is the Mkb42h (Maschinen Karabiner Haenel 1942) which was introduced april 1942 alongside the failed Mkb42w (Walther), at the Kholm battle 30 prototypes were parachuted and some of them ended up at the battle of Stalingrad, the H model was a success and by june 1943, 10000 of them were on the eastern front and another 2000 were ready, by late 1943 the model was improved and became known as the MP43/1, began being produced and was renamed early 1944 as the STG44.

    • @fishgames3710
      @fishgames3710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leoaraujo8590 yeah i looked that up in my book right after i posted lol

  • @waynzignordics
    @waynzignordics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great analysis video. I've often said the vast majority of soldiers that die in war die because of incompetent leadership planning. This mission was as dumb as they come, which of course resulted in massive casualties. But nobody wants to believe their loved ones needlessly died in war, so we call it heroic instead of tragic.

  • @MountainDewComacho494
    @MountainDewComacho494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    According to IMDB, this movie cost 14 million Euros to make. I find that amazing for the quality of movie they got. At the beginning where you point out that there is only one T-34, I think that’s all they could afford.

  • @EdmundLoh
    @EdmundLoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:50 "now they are SCREWED because HI and welcome to History Legends"
    that transition was so unexpected 😂

  • @hawkeye_1973
    @hawkeye_1973 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you missed that the Invasion stripes shouldn't be on the aircraft anymore during Market Garden.

  • @markhamon7462
    @markhamon7462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The German soldier did leave the replica entrenching tool standing in the dirt next to the mine, marking its location for both sides, I guess.

  • @quexcyivanrozendaal9350
    @quexcyivanrozendaal9350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The second scene was actually the most expensive to make, so it isn't very weird that it is a good scene.

  • @conpop6924
    @conpop6924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watched this a couple months ago. Great movie

  • @andyd27
    @andyd27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Throughout the film the main british characters rifle mysteriously changes between an smle and a number 4

  • @tamasmarcuis4455
    @tamasmarcuis4455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    32:44 Apparently British Army officers would be taught to stand up in combat.

  • @lookthroughhistory2176
    @lookthroughhistory2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cant believe I've slept on this film! Time to check it out and now flex on my knowledge of it to those I watch it with 😉

    • @rolfagten857
      @rolfagten857 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's strange that there are still wheels underneath the 88 cannon! And if the British glider pilots didn't have Glider-Wing on their Dennison smocks, I thought so.

  • @borninjordan7448
    @borninjordan7448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I find it highly improbable that the glider wouldn't have simply lost lift, snapped the tow cable and spiralled into the ground when it lost it's left wing.

    • @valyshknee4203
      @valyshknee4203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well a israeli F-15 landed with a single wing so its quite probable

  • @pac2267
    @pac2267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:20 that M1903 springfield help by the german on the left interresting

  • @babydrums7042
    @babydrums7042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing that bothered me, but was probably linked to budget, is the fact that during the combat scene of the walcheren causeway, they switched from lee enfield mk. 4 (which we can see during non combat scenes) to mk. 3. Idk why they did this but they were phased off before normandy. Also idk but the canadian troops also felt "naked" without any backpack and equipment for an assault like this. No mortar or heavy mg, felt weird.

  • @martinuhr6760
    @martinuhr6760 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i was there this summer on Scheldt...there is a Sherman on the coast...😉...great nature...

  • @markotisovic8233
    @markotisovic8233 ปีที่แล้ว

    RE gun question at 3:50. IMHO the guy has a yugoslav version of 98K called M-48 or revorked original gun revorked as the front sight had round ring protection. Other mausers in the scene seem to me without said front sight ring protector.

  • @starkilr101
    @starkilr101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:15 diversity of guns. I loved it

  • @GH0STvalorantXD
    @GH0STvalorantXD ปีที่แล้ว

    19:55 i'm a Norwegian and yes this is completely true, in my coastal town there is a cannon near the coast in the Trondenes area that is named "The Adolf cannon" there is more cannons in the area and a few bunkers, right beside the town's most famous church, the Trondenes church is the remains of a WW2 prisoner camp where the Germans kept soviet POW's, there is also a memorial a bit closer to the curch, from the remains we can see where there have been buildings that the soviet prisoners lived in, we can see the remains of one or two watchtowers and i think a house that might have been a German barrack or something, you can visit the remains of the camp and the bunkers in the area, but the Adolf cannon is located in a now Norwegian military controlled area, rules for tourists and visitors have gotten a bit stricter so its now quite difficult/expensive to visit the cannon

  • @primmakinsofis614
    @primmakinsofis614 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re: 21:05
    Those aren't Albemarle aircraft, they are Halifax bombers (Mk III based on the radial engines), some of which were converted to the airborne role (glider towing) and used for airborne operations, along with some which were purpose-built for the airborne role.
    In some of the shots you can see the bulge under the center of the fuselage which was the H2S radar installation, which I think were removed from airborne-role Halifax bombers as it wasn't needed (so showing them on the aircraft would be a mistake by the filmmakers).

  • @AllenKopic
    @AllenKopic ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Alex one small Detail.. in the scene with the Glieders..they are towed bye normal ropes.. in real it was steel cables 😊

  • @danieldz7906
    @danieldz7906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:08 blanks on this mg 42, and hooted cases was also blanks.

  • @nijo17
    @nijo17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 7:49 you can see at the tips that the ammunition they used was training ammunition.

  • @w-james9277
    @w-james9277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love another movie/mini series about the battle of the scheldt. It could focus on a Canadian infantryman and a commando.

  • @ariqabia5036
    @ariqabia5036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you noticed that in the opening scene, there's a modern canadian flag and 50 star us flag.

  • @JappeChristian
    @JappeChristian ปีที่แล้ว

    "...and of course a couple of STG44s"
    STG44s were usually not distributed evenly to all units, but instead concentrated in a few elite units, in which all the regular riflemen were equipped with STG44s.
    So either you should see no STG44s or all STG44s

  • @tramlink8544
    @tramlink8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you are incorrect that there should be a diversity in weapons in 1944. As well as the positioning of the MGs
    German tactics centered around the MG team. it was standard practice for a platoon to consist of 18 riflemen, 1-2 mg teams, a radio and a section leader with the highest ranking NCO being second in command.
    MP40s and STG44s were hard to come by even in 1944 as productions could not meet demand, therefore usually only the squad and section leaders had MP44s or MP40s. The majority of riflemen were issued a variant of the K98k or Czech copy (both you see in the start scene of this movie)
    The idea of the german squad was the MGs would lay down the firepower and the infantry were there to either flank or prevent flankings of the MG, which is opposite to how US squads fought
    Therefore it is far more accurate for everyone to have a K98k than an MP40 and for the MG42 to be at the centre of the defence as thats how German infantry were trained to fight.

  • @slicksouth5773
    @slicksouth5773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Proves that there needs to be a movie about Operation Varsity. The 17th Airborne is not well known. A good book on the subject is 4 hours of fury by James Fenelon

  • @guillaumeashby8912
    @guillaumeashby8912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The armored Vehicles look like C15 armored trucks. they were a CMP (Canadian militarized pattern) vehicle designed in Canada for the allied forces but were mostly used by the Canadians in the war.

  • @samthemacman
    @samthemacman ปีที่แล้ว

    I did not realize you were in Quebec. I used to live in Montreal. I served 8 years in the Canadian Reserves in the late 1970's and mid 1980's. I was in the Hastings & Prince Edward Regiment, the Toronto Scottish Regiment, and the Highland Light Infantry Regiment. I appreciate your review of the movie. BTW, the current Canadian military establishment is too Woke to be of any use to Canada or NATO. NATO is so woke it is no longer viable or effective. Again I appreciate your analysis. I love your commentary on the Ukraine conflict.

  • @Nebula1146
    @Nebula1146 ปีที่แล้ว

    i can tell you from living next to a air field that has ww2 planes that they are LOUD, one B-25 flew over my house and my room shook, i couldn't imagine what it was like to have 300 fly over my house or anywhere for that matter.

  • @AbitantedelVault
    @AbitantedelVault 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    36:55 literally the phrase "in time of war every hole is a trench"

  • @The_Bermuda_Nonagon
    @The_Bermuda_Nonagon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The real forgotten battle would be anything involving ABDA Command.
    Especially since the wrecks of the warships lost are being completely cut up and hauled off by metal salvagers who simply aren't concerned that they are also war graves. : (

  • @Airplaneboi-s7u
    @Airplaneboi-s7u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:45 Thought I'd point this out, why are the two pilots moving the yoke (Control Stick) at the same time? The flight controls are all connected, at this point they aren't fighting the aircraft for control anymore, they're fighting each other for control lol.

  • @chrisshaw7235
    @chrisshaw7235 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a Canadian battle on Walcairan island. My father was there.

  • @valorwarrior7628
    @valorwarrior7628 ปีที่แล้ว

    let me add up, @34:25 - there should be a marksman within the Canadian infantry section, get that sniper away from the main infantry body, to at least pin a bullet on any of the machine gunners' heads since they're pinned by the German defense lines.

  • @Vulpes_xVulpes
    @Vulpes_xVulpes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its not useless to cary the gasmask container, sometimes they store somethimg more important in this little handy gasmask container and have the mask in a other pocket or something, at this point it isnt useless. But yes, it isnt realistic that the dont have any equipment

  • @thecamocampaindude5167
    @thecamocampaindude5167 ปีที่แล้ว

    This movie really made me cry

  • @blakelorentzson5957
    @blakelorentzson5957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The section leaders like nco’s where the only ones who had a sten gun but many nco’s used the lee enfield rifle to blend in with the regular troops

  • @kimbonzky
    @kimbonzky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find the aircraft formation strange, gliders and c-47s randomly together, also fighter escort flying in the middle of the formation.

  • @jovicanikic4424
    @jovicanikic4424 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the one thing alot of war movies get wrong is when a bullet hits a person especially a heavy caliber like a machine gun people tend to get thrown back alot more, ones running sometimes do flips.

  • @Denyb211
    @Denyb211 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed in a lot of ww2 movies, the gray uniforms, are always what's shown. There are so many variations. And the weapons. Where is a gw 43? Stg44, mp40? A panzer shriek?

  • @ACDC-1FAN
    @ACDC-1FAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @11:05 he was right, the gun on the front of the tank is now on the left like it should be

  • @absolutememer4728
    @absolutememer4728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:04 this guy was injured in combat in that first scene you watched then when he recovered from his wounds he was assigned to another unit in whatever this place is

  • @karkkipri9186
    @karkkipri9186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you react to Unknown Soldier, i think its pretty realistic movie. And nice vid btw :)

  • @michaelwilliams7292
    @michaelwilliams7292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the glider scene was like a nightmare for me as a man severely afraid of heights

  • @kaibakker5626
    @kaibakker5626 ปีที่แล้ว

    This battle was so important for antwerpen, so they could supply the western front with that dock. Slag om de schelde is what we call it

  • @sakkeusrdalryjord2518
    @sakkeusrdalryjord2518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree this Is not a great movie but check ur facts, they used gliders cuz paratroopers could not get the same amount of gear on the ground. most German troopers used the kar98 s, the trench still protects them, not ideal but its better than nothin, the guy had to aim the panzerfaust. the German solider is now on the western front cuz he got wounded, he got transferred after healing up if u gon rew a movie u should watch the whole movie

  • @sacredeyeball2852
    @sacredeyeball2852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:24 yeah dude I feel you, I get mad when I watch war movies and see that nobody has full webbing.

  • @10-cestrerastephenjohnl.26
    @10-cestrerastephenjohnl.26 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the gunner's position of the tank switched into the left side

  • @friendly_thunder3648
    @friendly_thunder3648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you watch the whole movie it makes sense kinda

  • @theabsoluteem9269
    @theabsoluteem9269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you consider doing a video of the 2015 Estonian WW2 film called 1944 for your next reaction? Love your content by the way.

  • @stanislavkudlac4292
    @stanislavkudlac4292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly by your accent i still cant recognise where are you from :D that just by the way...anyway would be cool if you can make some videos of Dark Blue World (2001) or Tobruk (2008), I would be interested in your opinions about those movies

  • @danieldz7906
    @danieldz7906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    if u look at MG u will see that imige is flipped from time to time, sometimes it is loaded from right, sometimes from left.

  • @Spider-Too-Too
    @Spider-Too-Too 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bravest are screwed because welcome to history legend

  • @joshdeitner1499
    @joshdeitner1499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like canada is always screwed in the midiea industry for war films and games, like how battlefield 1 completed cucked canada and had a larger focus on the US and they only showed up for the last 5 minutes.

  • @mcstaal
    @mcstaal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:00 the MG 42 is firing a whole belt of blanks

  • @richardbinkhuysen5224
    @richardbinkhuysen5224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay, the film is somewhat of a a mix and facts.
    There where never gliders involved at the Walcheren-Causeway. These where only used for Market-Garden.
    There where Dutch drafted in the German Army as Reichsdeutcher.That means that either they where born in Germany and became Dutch or one of his parents where considered German because of that.
    I. and II./SS.Btl.'Landstorm' where assigned to 719.ID on Sept. 8 1944.
    I./Btl. to the Woensdrecht area and remained under 719.ID command
    II./Btl. to the Beringen(BE) area and was assigned to 85.ID., better known as Kampfgruppe Chill later on.
    III.Btl.was assigned to 9.SS.Div.Hohenstaufen at the Arnhem area.
    The attack on the Walcheren-Causeway began on Oct.31. And you're right. It was C.Coy. of RHR of C.
    I'll get back to that date further below.
    15 days earlier on Friday Oct. 13th , RHR.ofC. attacked the railway dam at the Woensdrecht Narrows.
    th-cam.com/video/BD_UWQnx1NU/w-d-xo.html
    Now to get back to Oct. 31st .
    Initially German Parachute Regiment 6 was to be sent to the Walcheren-Causeway from Beneden Sas on Oct. 31st.
    And also to North Beveland.
    It never happend.
    Why?
    A small Dutch Resistance Group ambushed half a German Company of that Regiment that was part of it's rearguard at Oud-Vossemeer on that day.
    Just before dusk would set in.
    While the para regiment was embarking in the midst of an Canadian Artillery barrage.
    Suddenly the Germans realized the entire Island of Tholen was lost to them.
    Now going around the St. Philipsland Peninsula and sail undetected in the fair lane in full view of the occupied WN.402 Observation Post would be impossible.
    Even during the night and in the dark.
    Debarking would lead to more casualties.
    So instead of being sent straight away in secrecy to the Walcheren-Causeway and North-Beveland Island they were sent north to Numansdorp in stead.
    Next day there would be a second attempt, but news arrived shortly that the Canadians crossed the Walcheren-Causeway just before they embarked at the start of the evening.
    These are they guys who prevented the first convoy.
    They never received any credit.
    In total they served for another 136 days on the front line under 1st. Canadian Army , of which 6 behind enemy lines against German Parachute Regiment 6
    The other 130 days they faced raids of MEK40, the German equivalent of the Royal British Marines Commandos.
    On March 14 1945 after a brief parade they were sent home, to never hear from it again.
    One of the many wounded of a MEK40 raid received his wound badge 47 years later in 1991 by mail.
    Some still living received the Dutch Resistance Cross after 50 years in 1994.
    Not for what they did, but just because they had been a Resistance member.
    My Granddad only received a thank you letter from his Dutch Supreme Commander on March 14 1945.
    th-cam.com/video/Gu6VbpMMvm8/w-d-xo.html
    Now one single dike is easier to defend then a 6 kilometer wide railway dam which already was approached to about 150 meters at the shortest point.
    It took 3 weeks of bitter fighting against German Parachute Regiment 6 to cross that distance at the Woensdrecht Narrows.
    Can you imagine what would have happend if the Germans would have been able to sent Parachute Regiment 6 to the Walcheren-Causeway which was just one small single dike and far more easier to defend?

  • @TheTryingDutchman
    @TheTryingDutchman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:14 that dude has a weird looking lower jaw/teeth.
    31:46 The bit of bs is that there was a jet flying in the background, look at those jet engine trails lol.
    Also you pronounced 'Nederland' pretty good :D

  • @jeroylenkins1745
    @jeroylenkins1745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glider units could deliver more troops with heavier equipment and more arms and required less training as compared to parachute units.

  • @saienga
    @saienga ปีที่แล้ว

    The Dutch soldier in the Wehrmacht winds up in the Netherlands because he’s wounded at the end of Narva, spends time in a hospital, and an Oberleutnant he meets there calls in a favor and gets him a post in the Netherlands when he recovers.

  • @MrBatsneger2
    @MrBatsneger2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you're talking about the island you've visited, you're talking about Walcheren right? You seem to pronounce it close to fallschirm when it's closer to like walker-en with the hard G sound instead of the k

  • @Beery1962
    @Beery1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    25:50 There's not enough wing there to keep that glider from corkscrewing vertically into the ground. It's lost half a wing, FFS! Full right aileron and max rudder couldn't possibly level this aircraft. As usual, the CGI folks have to exaggerate things to the max, but for anyone who knows aerodynamics, this just looks fucking stupid.

  • @fumblerooskie
    @fumblerooskie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At that point in the war the Canadian Army was the most mechanized army in the world, with an average of one vehicle for every five soldiers.

  • @pbg1273
    @pbg1273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was kind of confused as in the Netherlands the movie is called “De slag om de Schelden” wich means the battle of the Schelden