I wrote, and won an essay contest in Jr high based on the works of Poe, so thank you Mr Poe 💚❤️ And to you dear Tony for keeping his genius in the world 💚❤️
Dear me, DuPont took the roundabout way to get to the point. He's the type of person where you ask him the time, and he tells you how to make a clock. That said, I ❤ Tony's voice!
Mr. Tony, new opening. Very good. As a dedicated Sir ACD & Sherlock Holmes fan, I always think of Sherlocks chastising of Dr. Watson about EAP's Du Pin's character in the Scarlet Letter. However, I do enjoy both of the writer's characters and stories!! As one that is paternally of French decent and doesn't speak a lick of their beautiful language, please translate in your "BS" session (I say that with reverence and respect, because I truly enjoy your after talks) for we 'dummy's' that failed to learn another language in our lives. I actually took German in my 2nd semester of college after a trip to Switzerland and Germany a year before. However, working full time and carrying a full load at college, I eventually dropped the class within the allowable period. Thanks much!!
fifty years ago i read (and understood) poe with relish. i always dreaded his descent into french because i had wasted my time with german. now i realize how needlessly wordy poe was. great reading!
Check out The Single Effect Theory in Poe's review of Nathiel Hawthornes Twice-Told Tales. It is Poe's belief on what makes a good story. Basically, every word should contribute to the reader feeling a certain emotion. I guess he thought the algebra part was important. For an audience that had never come across a genius detective story, perhaps he thought it was critical to showboat the detective's intellect. It does come off as laying it on a bit thick to a modern audience, but this was the 1840s.
That’s a really interesting comment about Poe’s conception of story telling. I thank you for that because it’s sparked off some ideas on my own head. I will go and research it.
Loved your narration and really enjoyed your commentary. I agree with you about the "algebra thing". Perhaps when you were sitting around with Mr Poe and having a few shots with him, rather than advising him to edit it out, you should have asked, "so Ed, what's with all this algebra crap?...WHY is it there?" I'm in total agreement that it shouldn't be there, but I'm genuinely curious why it IS there. Maybe he'd say, "I don't know...I think I was being paid by the word and it was all I could think of..."
Thanks Tony, that was great. Re the wordiness, sometimes it really suits a story or else the odd bit here and there adds something- like the judicious use of a strong condiment!!!! In this story, like you I found it rather tedious. I liked the bit about coming down being harder than going up and its reference to singing. I’m a big fan of detective fiction and hadn’t realised it was started by Poe. In the early detective stories there seems to be a star detective and his “magician’s assistant”. It’s interesting how the role of the partner has changed subsequently and we have plenty of investigative duos now. Val McDermid’s Tony Hill and Carol Jordan are one of my favourite duos, also Louisa Luna’s Alice Vega and Max Caplan. Often they bring very different skills to the table, are flawed, plus the relationship between them can be a thing of interest in it’s own right. Even when one of them has a streak of wild brilliance, they’re now both necessary. The partner’s role started off as the scribe who records the great man’s achievements - also shows his brilliance by being a bit dull. The star detective is more fallible now and is allowed to make some grave errors, as long as s/he resolves things satisfactorily in the end. The story combined with your excellent chat made me realise I’d like to investigate the history of detective fiction further. Thanks again Tony, excellent stuff!
I would also beg to differ. Said in agreement with your comment on what I have always termed "when authors fall in love with the sound of their own writing." I am not impressed with such blather. Say what needs to be said. If it adds to the story, keep it. If it does not, lose it. But you know this, as I have read several of your stories, and they are always well written.
I've tried 3 times but it's just not going in my solid smooth brain 😂 This is when I'm extremely grateful for your waffle afterwards. Good waffle, not bad 😅
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Did anyone else notice the similarities with A Scandal in Bohemia, by A Conan Doyle? I wonder if Doyle read this Poe story for inspiration.
I wrote, and won an essay contest in Jr high based on the works of Poe, so thank you Mr Poe 💚❤️ And to you dear Tony for keeping his genius in the world 💚❤️
thanks for the coffee too :)
More Poe! Excellent!
Terrific reading of a fascinating story! Thanks!
Love your story telling! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Delightful reading, the reason i look forward to each new addition to this channel.
Fantastic story and narration
Thanks for listening
Dear me, DuPont took the roundabout way to get to the point. He's the type of person where you ask him the time, and he tells you how to make a clock. That said, I ❤ Tony's voice!
Love the chat between Ed and Tone at the end!
Thank you
Great reading. Certainly others authors wrote better mysteries, but only one author single handedly created the genre. There in lies the genius.
Mr. Tony, new opening. Very good.
As a dedicated Sir ACD & Sherlock Holmes fan, I always think of Sherlocks chastising of Dr. Watson about EAP's Du Pin's character in the Scarlet Letter.
However, I do enjoy both of the writer's characters and stories!!
As one that is paternally of French decent and doesn't speak a lick of their beautiful language, please translate in your "BS" session (I say that with reverence and respect, because I truly enjoy your after talks) for we 'dummy's' that failed to learn another language in our lives. I actually took German in my 2nd semester of college after a trip to Switzerland and Germany a year before. However, working full time and carrying a full load at college, I eventually dropped the class within the allowable period.
Thanks much!!
Ah you like it! Aha, good.
fifty years ago i read (and understood) poe with relish. i always dreaded his descent into french because i had wasted my time with german. now i realize how needlessly wordy poe was. great reading!
Check out The Single Effect Theory in Poe's review of Nathiel Hawthornes Twice-Told Tales. It is Poe's belief on what makes a good story. Basically, every word should contribute to the reader feeling a certain emotion. I guess he thought the algebra part was important. For an audience that had never come across a genius detective story, perhaps he thought it was critical to showboat the detective's intellect. It does come off as laying it on a bit thick to a modern audience, but this was the 1840s.
That’s a really interesting comment about Poe’s conception of story telling. I thank you for that because it’s sparked off some ideas on my own head. I will go and research it.
Love your narration.
Best narrator ever.
Subscribed, looking forward to more of your videos
Loved your narration and really enjoyed your commentary.
I agree with you about the "algebra thing".
Perhaps when you were sitting around with Mr Poe and having a few shots with him, rather than advising him to edit it out, you should have asked, "so Ed, what's with all this algebra crap?...WHY is it there?"
I'm in total agreement that it shouldn't be there, but I'm genuinely curious why it IS there. Maybe he'd say, "I don't know...I think I was being paid by the word and it was all I could think of..."
Someone commented and explained it but it was complicated and I've forgotten now
@classicdetective Well, I'm glad to know that some sort of rationale at least exists
apparently but it is lost to me now
I was smiling at your imaginary chat w EAP. Got a chuckle out of it. Love your detective stories, and comments afterwards. ❤
Thanks Tony, that was great. Re the wordiness, sometimes it really suits a story or else the odd bit here and there adds something- like the judicious use of a strong condiment!!!! In this story, like you I found it rather tedious. I liked the bit about coming down being harder than going up and its reference to singing.
I’m a big fan of detective fiction and hadn’t realised it was started by Poe.
In the early detective stories there seems to be a star detective and his “magician’s assistant”. It’s interesting how the role of the partner has changed subsequently and we have plenty of investigative duos now. Val McDermid’s Tony Hill and Carol Jordan are one of my favourite duos, also Louisa Luna’s Alice Vega and Max Caplan. Often they bring very different skills to the table, are flawed, plus the relationship between them can be a thing of interest in it’s own right. Even when one of them has a streak of wild brilliance, they’re now both necessary. The partner’s role started off as the scribe who records the great man’s achievements - also shows his brilliance by being a bit dull. The star detective is more fallible now and is allowed to make some grave errors, as long as s/he resolves things satisfactorily in the end.
The story combined with your excellent chat made me realise I’d like to investigate the history of detective fiction further. Thanks again Tony, excellent stuff!
Exactly. That is a very good analysis in my humble opinion!
Seems hella serious
Will listen
I would also beg to differ. Said in agreement with your comment on what I have always termed "when authors fall in love with the sound of their own writing." I am not impressed with such blather. Say what needs to be said. If it adds to the story, keep it. If it does not, lose it. But you know this, as I have read several of your stories, and they are always well written.
I've tried 3 times but it's just not going in my solid smooth brain 😂
This is when I'm extremely grateful for your waffle afterwards. Good waffle, not bad 😅
Did anyone else notice the similarities with A Scandal in Bohemia, by A Conan Doyle? I wonder if Doyle read this Poe story for inspiration.
your laugh makes me laugh too.
good :)