What TV REALLY Does to Us w/ Brian Holdsworth
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The funny thing about Seinfeld is that the show had the moral sense to make the last episode “The Last Judgment”: The characters have to make an emergency landing in a small plane - or did they crash and all die? - they find themselves in this quaint and wholesome town where they all get arrested for breaking a “good Samaritan law“. In the trial, all of the people whom they have wrong and mistreated and slighted over the course of the series come and accused them. And at the last they are condemned and sentenced to prison. It seems to me a basic admission that these are terribly selfish and narcissistic characters we’ve all been laughing at, and their way of living is not right.
Wow! That's interesting. That makes me think that Jerry saw the show as satire and commentary on all that is wrong in society but it missed the mark and people just laughed because they saw their own foibles without insight.
The world was just as crazy as the main cast... I mean do you really expect someone to take a squirrel they ran over to the vet and then take care of it by feeding it medicine 8 times/day?
What about the jerk woman that spilled cake all over George's shirt twice with no apology?
Why is it Jerry's fault Baby got deported? He only tried to help a struggling restaurant owner. Also, Jerry was away when for some reason Babu gave Jerry's address for the green card papers to be mailed to... And it's ELAINE that didn't give Jerry his mail until way later.
Yes, they are terrible people, but the world they live in isn't any better.
I used to be addicted to television growing up, now I can’t even stand to watch any of it. It truly hurt me in my life and I believe it is one of the most hidden evils in the world and the devil has definitely taken advantage of using it to destroy people
I was having dinner with long time friends the other day, one Italian and the other Ethiopian. I made the joke that I was jealous because they had cultures grounding them and I just had television, television was the only "culture" I had. It was a joke but the reality of it has continued to haunt me. My childhood television was definitely the parent I spent the most time with, it gave me guidance and comfort and ritual, but it was a very sad substitute for community and mentorship and togetherness.
I really resonate with your comment… in time alone we spent ever evening for at least 3 hours watching tv when what we really wanted was time with community. Thanks 😊
You guys are making me realize I need to up my vest game.
The depravity of the characters in Seinfeld brings them nothing but sorrow. They never grow and always suffer the consequences of their selfishness. When you look at it the right way, it's a great show. And it's funny.
@cousinrex
I tend to see Seinfeld this way too, although the humor does lower the severity of said depravity.
I’d wager it’d be better to ween off that and do more of the things Fradd spoke of. :)
@@FuddlyDud You make a good point about how the humor can affect our perception. It's important to watch with a discerning mind. If not, you might find yourself thinking the on-screen behavior isn't so bad, or wanting to be like the characters, etc.
Specific humour like dirty jokes are venial sins. So nearly many shows shouldn't be engaged with
It's sad. Back in the 80's Seinfeld was capable of doing a clean standup show. I took my 15 year old daughter to one in St. Louis. It was hillarious. He did bits like, why do you always find only one sock in the dryer, where did it's mate go? And he built on that in a nice, not nasty way. I haven't had a TV for most of my adult life, even tho I grew up with it in the 50's.
@@cousinrex
Well put. :)
My perception of dating and asking girls out was basically what I saw on reruns of Boy Meets World, Growing Pains, and Happy Days.
I didn’t even realize how disrespectful and undignified that was. And all those shows are typically rated G or maybe PG occasionally.
This is the American way of dating and finding a mate. Look how well that's working. /s
I was surprised to learn that in some countries (those with a reputation for promiscuity) people may flirt and have casual, inappropriate relationships but when they get serious about finding a mate, they already know the person or they are upfront in saying they're looking to settle down and they stop "playing the field" which was something else that was encouraged in the US. They already know the person enough to like them so they suggest an exclusive relationship and focus on the important values and beliefs to be sure they match. "Dating" to get to know someone is a distraction and feelings and hormones get in the way of sound thinking and rational decisions, even if you don't actively engage in sexual behavior. I was married in the Church, eventually annulled and we were both virgins but he did some really manipulative and mean things during the 3 years we dated. But I kept rationalizing them and not having a father, I didn't get the protection and guidance I needed. I was stupid and my mom was too sympathetic. The very first incident of disrespect, and it was pretty big, she should have told me I was never to see him again but she was afraid that would push us together. Actually, it wouldn't have, I wasn't THAT stupid. BTW, no one suggested, let alone required we attend pre-Cana.
Can you please elaborate?
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Yes. Either 1st or 2nd season of Happy Days: Potsie is talking to Ritchie off to the side letting him in on how to take advantage of girls. They were always taking girls in a car to some drive in movie or some makeout point for a date. It was mainly focused on trying to get a kiss or alluding to going further, not so much about getting to know the girl as a person; the girls were merely something good looking to get something from or to make advances on.
Growing Pains had an episode called “Nude Photos” wherein Mike takes an art class wherein he gets to photograph this gal naked. We don’t see anything, but pretty raunchy for a show with a mere PG rating on ABC “Family.” Also he was always trying to pick up chicks. Same attitude towards dating as Happy Days.
Boy Meets World. By the later seasons, the show had turned from a kids/teen comedy into more of a young adult comedy/ drama/ soap opera. Kind of a cross of Friend with Beverly Hills 90210. Two of the dudes Will and Jack share an apartment at college with a gal, which of course sets up a lot of sexual tension, eventually leading to her getting into a relationship with Jack and maybe eventually Eric after a breakup-I can’t remember every detail after 20 years, but I do remember a lot.
There was a lot of making out on the couch on that show with the studio audience hooting and cheering; it’s not an R-rated sex scene, but it gives a similar impression (just to a less explicit degree) of relationships; characters were this physical with each other on single digit number of dates.
And that show was on Disney channel, ABC, and ABC Family with a PG rating.
Anyways, so yes: on the topic of retrospectively looking back with Catholic eyes on how awful TV shows were, these ones definitely warped my perception of relationships and made me think that getting quite physical early was normal and fine and also skewed the whole enterprise towards trying to get as far with a girl as possible as some sort of achievement.
@@tinalettieriso waiting for marriage - and having no emotions like dating a sister ( as the puritans say courting) typically like a arranged marriage. That didn't work out too well for you and you're ex?
Maybe because you and your fiancee didn't take the time get know each other - and you didn't know who you were marrying was the cause of your problems and eventual divorce?
Did you discuss what you expectations of what your marriage was going be/ look like, before marriage with your ex - kids , sex, fiances - Christian view on on marriage: Hurry up and get married so you can have sex.
And Christians complain secularists have hangups about sex?
Both are Great Men of Faith, God bless you both. Pax Christi 🙏
Nah, both are memebers of a child abusing organisation. You too. Jesus said what you should do. It involves a millstone.
There is no television in our house. We got rid of the idiot box many years ago and have been so much better for it!
youtube ain't much better
I have a television, but I usually watch EWTN, college volleyball, some college baseball, MLB baseball and some college football. And then I watch movies, like the 2000-2002 Lord of the rings trilogy. I don’t really watch any prime time TV shows anymore unless it’s a rerun of last man standing on hulu.
Before we moved to Israel 15 years ago, we lived in a few places that got hurricanes. We made it thru Katrina while living in Mobile. At the time, "live" coverage online was so-so. We got a small TV for that purpose. We made sure that if we wanted to watch something, it was HGTV or Animal Planet. When we got here, they still had a television tax so that was one reason we didn't get one, although watching would have probably helped with our Hebrew. Even after they eliminated the tax, we didn't go for it.
@@MrsAngelala Do what I did and cut the cable at the wall 😉 Honestly that is what we did and now we read spiritual books together instead, like Imitation of Christ, Introduction to the Divine Life, Wild at Heart, Screwtape Letters... stuff like that!
Ask the question, do I want to waste time watching other people’s lives or exist in reality, living my own?
Your life is such an adventure, so make your own TV show, with God as the director !
I prayed to Jesus as a small child but I learned morals from Batman The Animated Series before I ever learned Christian or Catholic morality. That said that version of Batman is solid so definitely could of been worse
Agreed. Definitely way worse moral compasses out there. And I'm convinced a whole lot of kids in my generation got whatever concept they have of unconditional love from Uncle Iroh in Avatar the Last Airbender.
Batman is sinful but not as bad as others. The video games are decent, he resists distraction and temptation a lot of the time to do his duty
Bravo! Much needed discussion.
You are right most of the tv I watched was wicked and disrespectful to parents and promoting sexuality and idolatry ❤ I am afraid tv is worse now and makes me seem like a major annoying parent 😮
My goodness, what shows are you watching?
the shows i watched were full house, growing pains, family ties, punky brewster & 80s cartoons. I’ve never watched filth like “friends”, which promoted promiscuity
The show I hated as an adult (and an Italian in America) was Raymond. The disrespect Deborah had for her in-laws was off the charts and all the men were portrayed as weak dolts. Then they added inappropriate sexuality with the hapless, single Robert. but Deborah was my absolutely most loathsome character. The "nuking" of the American family both literally and figuratively has led to a lot of the woes we have today and Television was a major factor in that split. Not only do extended families no longer exist they are reviled and condemned.
Yet The Cosby Show was a program about family values, the benefits of education, respect for heritage and diversity, respect for women………….
It's a catch-22. We lack a community, so we find it in tv. We want the reality, but we dont find it out there. Even though it's real, even though it can be real now, we dont pursue it because all are solitary.
I recently watched an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer which was one of my favorite shows as a teen and I couldn't believe I watched it. I couldn't stomach all the sex and promiscuity. I had a major reversion as a young adult and it was so dramatic I immediately stopped watching most of the 'popular shows' I am now much more sensitive to sex, violence etc present in most shows and I just can't watch them. I fully credit God for this because it certainly wasn't me. I was just transformed by His love. I now just watch catholic TH-cam, music reactions, documentaries and my 'vice' if you can call it that which are Korean Dramas. These are very tame compared to western shows but even those I scrutinize quite a bit.
Lmao. I just can't relate, but then again I'm agnostic, not catholic. I wouldn't have commented at all except you mentioned Korean Dramas, and i was born in Japan. So I felt compelled to mention that I was literally raised totally immersed in a culture of extreme fetish porn since I was 8 years old and got my first smartphone.
Literally we have a billion dollar porn Industry of little underage girls, that's Loli porn. When it's little boys and adult women it's called shota instead, named after a little boy character named Shotarou who was legendarily popular with older women. There's also a booming industry for scat porn, necrophilia, Nonconsent, torture, incest, furries, traps, and beyond. Ive literally been seeing this stuff since I was 8, we get new material in all of these genres and more weekly, again it's not a secret, it's not illegal, it's a 1 billion USD Industry and growing fast, has been since before I was alive. And Japan isn't so far from Korea. Just a word of warning
I'm hoping a good chunk of that is animated (hentai, right?) and actual pedophilia child abuse isn't legal. That's terrifying.
@@JP2GiannaT most of it is 2D or 3D animation, games, movies, light novels, visual novels, or photorealistic AIgens. However the rest of it comes from the subindustry of Joshi Kousei businesses, which connects high school and middle school girls with rich adults for sex and amateur porn, my dad uses these occasionally. They do operate openly and legally, but they are much more controversial than the animated stuff which nobody has even questioned really. At least the JK businesses are considered hotbeds of crime and get in trouble sometimes for prostituting girls that are WAY too young.
Also, the fictional porn is impossible to get rid of anyway since it's protected by the supreme court, and honestly everyone is either into it or just desensitized to it lol. Which I can't even tell which one of those I am. But yeah, since my parents are both rich, semi important people. But they don't get along well with each other anymore, my dad uses these JK businesses to sleep around with young girls. Like most rich adult men it seems, since that is a huge money maker in the market. Since i still date normally, and just use porn regularly whenever I don't have any dates coming up. I haven't really felt any draw towards those services myself. Maybe that's just as of yet. Because literally everyone who can afford it seemingly does so, including my own dad. So that doesn't say great things about my future lol. Also probably because anyone raised in Japan will just be completely desensitized like me. And even my dad, who is a white American that merely moved to Japan, still seemingly absorbed the culture here fully. Since due to all that exposure to constant extreme porn since I was a kid. I really can't think of anything that actually disgusts or even bothers me, So needless to say, I can't really imagine something like Seinfeld being considered wicked lol. I guess I'm pretty fucked up and lost from a Catholic perspective, which is too bad because I'm somewhat interested in religion. I just don't necessarily think it's true, well that's obvious considering I'm an agnostic from a country with virtually no organized religion
I still love Buffy! Sure it is a product of its time, but it really is full of religious imagery. Buffy throwing down her cross necklace in the season 1 finale when she gives up, then later retrieving it and sacrificing herself to save the world. The whole of season 2 is about the dangers of uncontrolled passion, with its single sexual act leading to cascading consequences and emphasizing the necessity of self-control!
Some of the moral questions brought up in the show can also be valuable, showcasing different ethical perspectives through the characters (Buffy slowly becoming a principled deontologist, whereas Giles being more consequentialist). Questions of forgiveness and redemption are frequently discussed in interesting ways as well.
Heck, even the season 6 finale hinges upon a carpenter saving the world through an act of unconditional love and forgiveness! The show may be secular, but its creator did admit that he is in love with Christian themes and images.
(Though I can still see it not being for everyone!)
Violence isnt intrinsically evil though. The impurity is
What about King of Queens, with Kevin James (a devout traditional Catholic)? I loved that show and watched almost every episode as a practicing Catholic. I loved Kevin James, and I still love him. But several years later, while nostalgically reminiscing and watching clips on TH-cam, I realized, I could hardly watch any of them anymore because it was just way too much inappropriate sexual subject matter. Amazingly, I discovered, that by the grace of God, I had grown in chastity, and with that came a much greater sensitivity to inappropriate sexual material.
Then I wondered, how was Kevin James able to do the show with a clear conscience. I am certainly not judging him, just wondering.
By the way Matt, if you are reading, I would just love to see you interview Kevin James, and I wonder, if you would have the guts to ask him the question above 😁 I really don’t think I could do it in an interview, maybe privately if he was a friend. whether you would ask him that question or not, I would still love to see you interview Kevin James, if you haven’t already
@@francikeen what do you mean?
@@francikeenok, now I understand what you meant, and I can’t say that I disagree. I was just hoping for some other explanation 😞
Thanks for responding
The sex jokes are pretty pg on sitcoms not sure what you’re implying by saying how could he film it with a clear conscience
@@francikeen sex isn’t bad, I’d agree watching blatant pornography is a sin but laughing at a guy who has a sense of humor and struggles with lust is part of the human condition. laughing at jokes doesn’t lead people to infidelity. And some people consider almost everything these days as some type of a sin so “ignoring” the wife and kids would need to be pretty excessive to be a sin
@@francikeen so a guy can’t take a break to watch a show or grab a drink with his friends? lol those are some interesting opinions
Ok, I'm old so probably most of you will have no idea what I'm talking about but back in the day, Perry Como fired Patrice Munsel because she dared to wear a strapless evening gown for one of the shows. This was around 1955, give or take. Perry was a devout Catholic and Patrice was an Opera singer who appeared regularly on his live show. She always wore beautiful gowns but this one evening she went strapless. The dress was relatively modest in spite of that, coming fairly high up on her chest but Perry forbade her from making her appearance on camera. He took a lot of heat but he didn't back down, ever.
Perry Como is my aunts cousin, lol.
1:23 Seinfeld did do one thing right though: They got punished, hard, in the end for all the bad stuff they had done.
@@DoubleOhSilverTHAT'S what I didn't like about the trial.
The moralistic hand-wringing has to be one of the funnier reoccurring aspects of these types of sanctimonious conversations.
You can not find something funny, humour, like art or beauty, is subjective after all (I don't like American Pie either), but all this psychological self-recrimination is just so strange. You've expended more energy pondering the moral weight of watching Friends than, frankly, the show deserves. Are there some crap or crass jokes? Yes. It definitely hasn't aged gracefully, but this puritanism around it is as baffling as it is entertaining.
Amen. Bless you!!!
I couldn't agree more with you.
I think there is truth to you’re criticism. I do think there is value in discerning the type of content we consume, but I think prayer and receiving the sacraments have a much stronger impact on our souls than TV.
Let me know what you think, and I’m glad to see you doing ok after not hearing from you in a while! Where did EspadaKing come from?
I agree with this message wholeheartedly. 👍❤
What is our culture but the television shows that everyone shares. You don't want to Completely abandon the culture you live in but tranform it
There was culture before television.
@@AzureSymbioteBut we were born and have been live in this culture. In the present.
Exactly!
@@danielepereira3878 The future may not be like the present.
We got rid of our TV. It’s far better…. The difference in our home is incredible.
Matthew Perry died 😢
I'm 27 now and I'm watching Friends now because it was my wife's favourite show. From a grown up formed catholic not only I enjoy the laughing but I also see how the show showes the logical contradiction of the characters moral choices. It has helped me better understand the crazy culture we live in... since the show shaped the culture.
I am convicted of allowing my teenage daughter watch Friends back in the day - I was a secular woman then
We have a tv but not cable etc. used for certain movies, science and learning shows and football. Outside of that we are fairly screen free. I’m glad that growing up I wasn’t allowed to watch most shows. We were outside kids. All good for thought. Thanks for a great show.
I agree & feel the same way & always have.
It’s like satan is here & wants as many souls he can get…well, nobody in their right mind will just watch outright sin & find it uplifting & enjoyable….so, satan is like ‘I’ll put all this sin on tv & call it “the news” & get that going 24/7/365 & just saturate them in every way with every sin you can imagine & they’ll watch as it will be “the news.” 😂 Then, I’ll have them loosen up to murder & mayhem, gore, etc, by calling it “video games”…they will watch, laugh, participate & have fun! Then, I’ll numb them to the reality of sin & get them to just accept it by labeling it as “comedy”….whether on TV or on stage in clubs & I’ll serve alcohol. I’ll numb them to smoking, drugs, swearing & drinking by raising “cool guys & gals” who they’ll idolize and wish to emulate! 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉 I’ll get them to gamble by making a beautiful, lit up, appealing city…I’ll have beautiful people tell them what they do there stays there! God will not see nor hear it! 😂😂🎉🎉 I’ll raise up “rock stars” to ok the occult & draw others into it. 😂🎉🎉
I just see satan behind these things/façades…laughing & grabbing souls by the thousands upon thousands…
And, I’m not a prude, either. I get humor & comedy, etc. But, idk, call it discernment….but, I always see behind it & how satan uses it to numb us to sin and where we don’t see it as sin. Sin is ugly & horrific & we can see it upon our Lord’s body..the wounds….sin is real…such love He had to endure it all so we could live forever in heaven one day…. & for us to just laugh at sin and see it as nothing is really not good.
Oh well, anyways, I agree 😂
I think “true crime” genre is also being used by satan to numb us to horrific sins and be just chewing popcorn 🍿 or drinking coffee while soaking in horrific crimes in detail over & over.
I bet you get invited to a lot of parties.
@@kevinkelly2162 🤣😂🤣💖
I hate how desensitized to violence I've become. And it's all through exposure via "entertainment". We should not accept this.
@@NMemone I agree.
Mash, Andy Griffin and Bobs Burgers are all I watch since conv 2 years ago and even those have ‘oh that’s not right’ moments. The people in my world are tv people have you seen this, that and I’m always like no. I listen to things like this for the most part.
Thank for this
Brian - clever how you tricked Matt into letting you interview him on his own show 😂😂😂
Married with Children was great to watch as a kid. Jerry Springer also helped to form a better understanding of our society. Judge Judy was great in my moral character.
Now i just really want to know your opinion of Father Ted...
On Seinfeld in particular, what's weird is that there are episodes with great clean content, the whole show. And others that are so far off and very crude and nothing you would ever wish to emulate. My parents, long ago, tried a few episodes and happen to catch a few that were very basic, clean humor, funny. Then they caught any of many others that are way out there and that did it. No more hunt and peck. But to the point that we can desensitize ourselves to "well it's not THAT bad" and before you know it "Game of Thrones" is standard fare. Truth and goodness are beautiful and wonderful. Dry Bar Comedy is doing a pretty good job but even that has some comics that nudge the edges.
I hate Dry Bar for their hypocrisy. Why is potty humor ok but sexual not? I mean sexual humor isn't ok but I get really offended by potty humor too and disguising it a kiddie cuteness doesn't cut it.
@@tinalettieri There is definitely a mix. Some of the comedians and very clean and just plain funny. Some do skirt the edges. I give them some credit for at least trying. Not easy to find funny, clean comedians.
Mind manipulation machine
When you discover the ethnoreligious backgrounds of most television execs, you understand why they want to manipulate our minds.
The content of TV worries me less than the amount of peoples lives that’s spent watching it. Also immorality in stories doesn’t make that story itself immoral.
Television makes people lazy! I don't watch TV much anymore but I do love all my TH-cam channels.
Me too but TH-cam can also make you lazy
@@StanleyNjoroge-v5w hahaha true
Ok I don't if this is sarcasm.
@@danielepereira3878 I didn't mean it to be when I wrote it but I think it kinda is.
Against Matt's argument about Friends, I watched that boatloads of times as a kid and I never was inspired to have promiscuous sex because of it.
You don't live in western world.
I have box sets of 'Sex and the City'. I loved it. 😮 I know Matt's Wife Cameron had a go at John Corbett, one of the Stars. Lol.
That show was vile
How is this different than just living in the world with it's own degeneracy? Aside from the overly graphic content, isn't a large portion of television similar to the secular world we encounter every day going to work?
Friends is awful. Not even funny.
Please...make it stop Kitty lol
spot on - that attitude of "I can watch that without thinking like that" to imply or feel that you are "different" runs so rampant imo, it's poisonous. Where is the humility, where is the serious hatred of sin that is not negotiable.
If you want to stay away from sin, lock yourself up in your house and never leave it. Never interact with the world either.
Oh wait... Didn't Jesus tell us we need to interact with sinners to spread the gospel?
*Womp womp*
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 did Jesus not say, “if you right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. Better for you to enter into heaven with one eye, than enter into Gehenna with two.” It’s about if it leads you to sin. Is watching Friends interacting with sinners?? A lot of people watch TV on their own.
I’m not saying go out of the world, for that you’d have to die as St. Paul says. But why would you not avoid what leads you to sin? (Presuming of course you’re a Christian or Catholic). A lot of people compromise too much, it’s plain easy to see, and that’s the point I got out of the video.
@@brendan.j.t Seinfeld doesn't lead me to sin. If anything, it lets me infiltrate the Seinfeld circles and evangelize.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408or perhaps you don’t have a deep enough understanding of sin? Your original response wasn’t gracious or humble. Maybe think on it :)
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408"infiltrate the Seinfeld circles," lol...sounds like an episode of Curb (the point is about whatever show or thing may lead you to sin, and realizing that, not Seinfeld or Friends *necessarily*)
not that we should seek out bad stupid things like the friends show that are wicked but i do feel that is part of the journey here on earth is we will inevitably be exposed to the bitter to know to prize the sweet -- if we are too sheltered or parents are too strict i think it can hinder personal development -- at the same time we do need to protect our kids so
Brian is 41? I thought he was 26. Definitely not a vegan.
The very unclassy vvomen on FRIENDS are the examples which modern vvomen want to be. Different "boyfriend" every 3 months, for 10 years +.
But then..
32 hits, and it's "time to settle"
37 hits, and "she's just not happpy"
It would be interesting to see Matt discuss the ideas of Karl Popper, whose ideas are pretty much gospel to the people running the world today.
I’m just here to read the I’m holier than thou comments lol
I enjoy movies and television shows very much especially the ones that have a lot of justice action and life valuing things in them but recently I’ve been getting a upset over is the normalization of fornication in our society sometimes even Christians get a little excepting of it developing an attitude like well, everyone’s doing it, so I guess it’s fine I’m afraid not!
People who spend too much time in television and social media are far from more interesting for it, they are the most interesting and boring people out there with little to no original thoughts of their own or ability to discuss anything of meaning.
The hand waving of watching things that can easily lead you to sin, or wherein the watching is sinful in and of itself, is surprising coming from comments by people I assume are Catholics. You can easily veer into the territory of mortal sin with that attitude. “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” my dear friends.
Friends wasn’t funny.
Shooting? Mhh 😅what St Francis would say 🤔
I CANNOT watch anything anymore. It's all so shallow and stupid. I think the last show I watched was Sheldon. It was funny.
Have these guys ever read, for example, Graham Greene or Flannery O’Connor, or are Catholic authors like that too worldly and unorthodox for them?
Ah, come on... Friends is not a good example for "free whore women":
Monica loses her virginity very late and dreams all her life about marrying. She leaves her big love because he doesn't wants children and marries Chandler, who slept with two woman in his life: Janice and Monica.
Ross is traumatized by his divorce when his wife wants to live with another woman. She is the only woman he slept with at this point and then only have eyes for his youth love Rachel, that he marries afterwards. Rachel has a few men, but also just wants to find the right guy to marry.
So it's idiot Joey, who is depicted as a loser, who has a whore lifestyle and crazy Phoebe, who we don't really see having many men. Although it's sometimes mentioned.
I know what you mean: hookup culture is normalized in the series. But it's not what the characters want or what makes them happy. (Except idiot Joey.)
I agree 100%. But I would say that Joey was like that only in the 2 first seasons. He was one of the most good-hearted in that show. Almost innocent in some aspects (I am assuming you watched the show until the end)
@@danielepereira3878 lol... After rewatching the first five episodes I kind of take it back. Monica sleeps with another man (or wants to) in every episode, while the rest is talking about it.
Seinfeld wasn’t funny, though.
The comedian himself wasnt. The show was hysterical.
Respectfully disagree.
A show about nothing
I have been struggling a lot with identity and the fact that this lgbt crap is in nearly every show and movie and book these days? It's so disheartening. You literally can't stay away from it, even if you want to.
Yo Matt is based frfr
Catholic here
You need to calm down your being too loud! We need to learn to conquer sin , not run at the mention of it. Fear leads you incapable
Matt should really watch his language when talking about these things.
This point of view really only holds up if you conflate the make believe actions of fictious characters with the actual actions of real people. Take Joey from Friends. The guys a womanizer and yet we laugh at the ludicrious scenarios he ends up in in relation to that lifestyle. We can laugh because we know its not real. However upon meeting a womanizer in real life, are any of us laughing at his behavior. No, we find it deplorable because this is not an act.
As a Catholic author and content creator I'm not a fan of the line of thinking that suggests that art itself can only ever be one thing otherwise its a sin. No, art is meant to take us out of ourselves and reflect life as it is.
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whos the 7 that disliked 🤨
“Having a television in your home is like having a Jew in your living room.” -Fr. Leonard E. Feeney
What about EWTN?
...what?
I worship a Jew every Sunday, so I'm not really sure what it is you're saying...
What was he saying about having a Jewish person in one's living room? How is that a negative thing? Sounds anti-Semitic.
Oh, Feeney, that guy who was excommunicated for his antisemitism!
All of this is completely pointless unless you call out the culprits
Seinfeld: Jewish
David Crane and Marta Kauffman (Directors, Friends): Jewish
Paul Weitz, Jesse Dylan, Jon Hurwitz, Hayden Schlossberg (Directors, American Pie series): Jewish
Adam Herz, David H. Steinberg (Screenwriters, American Pie series): Jewish
This one group has been singlehandedly responsible for the degeneracy that’s pervasive in our culture. There is no going forward without acknowledging this truth.
Honestly, you don't need to watch Seinfeld to have exposure to sin. Just live in the world, is already sinful enough and probably way worse than Seinfeld.
Are we supposed to just ignore the world too?
Did you really say that Friends had stupid men and “free whore” women? And then you repeated that phrase for emphasis? I’m disappointed that you would use such language. First, it is rude and sets a bad example for younger viewers. Second, while “whore” is unnecessarily crude, to use the term “free” is to devalue the women completely. You can teach that promiscuity is a sin to be avoided, but I would hope that you still feel that even promiscuous people have value as human beings. Finally, the stupid men were just as promiscuous as the women on that show, so singling out the women as “free whores” while merely calling the men “stupid” (a term that would apply equally well to all of the characters) communicates a double standard that reflects poorly on your upbringing.
Please try to do better. You may have had such notions instilled in you while you were growing up, but if you guard your tongue perhaps you can prevent the next generation from being poisoned by such attitudes. Thank you.
If you celebrate Christmas, Easter, Halloween and eat pork and shellfish I’m not listening to you.
Why? We aren’t bound by the dietary Mosaic laws.
🇷🇺☦🤝☪️🇵🇸"Happy is the man who has not followed the counsel of the wicked, or taken the path of sinners,
nor sitteth at the seat of clowns"
- Pslms 1:1-6