This conversation: Greek: starts with a decent take Asmon: agrees Greek: drifts into conspiracy, alphamale ape behaviour and bad metaphors Asmon: starts arguing Greek: changes topic -> Repeat
and completely ignores the point Asmon is attempting to Argue. Asmon: "Would this Tate dude actually square up and fight." Greek: "Well, that's not what this guy is saying: he's talking about the avg joe being combat ready.... blah blah blah." Greek, my guy. That doesn't answer the question: WOULD HE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IF IT CAME DOWN TO A FIGHT? YES or NO and explain your answer.
@@NOSFERATU_ONE Greek has turned into a QAnon clone thinking the election was fraudulent, the earth is flat, bla bla bla. It’s predictable and pathetic. People who think like this should grow up
@@NOSFERATU_ONE Guess I chose my peers wisely then. My peers are shaping the world with the most effective tool of value creation today: research and engineering (actual research tho, not going down some internet rabbit hole) Sincerely - a grownup ;)
Asmon is surprisingly perceptive. He likes to play the neck beard gamer sloth roll, but I'm pretty sure it's mostly an act. He knew talking to Greek was gonna be content.
Greek lost a bunch of weight and got yoked thinking it would make him this wanted alpha. In the end he’s lost his his personality and went down rabbit holes after realizing it’s not really the weight that kept the women away.
Oooooffffff. That hit hard. Fr tho, Greek is just insecure. In his head he will always be that dumpy fat guy that got passed over for other better looking dudes. He got shredded for all the wrong reasons and now he is beginning his descent into inceldom after realising that women still dont want him.
Well, lets be honest. At that weight it definitely kept the women away. But just because the first roadblock was removed doesnt mean there arent more down the line.
@@stylishskater92 It depends, if you see his demeanor and his personality before, it was very goofy and not serious. Which is something a lot of people like. Now he's a lot more serious with more anti social ideation. However, so long as someone isn't a complete incel, there is probably a girl out there for them no matter the size. But if they turn into an incel, there is no girl out there no matter the looks. I would say that hes riding the line of douchebaggery down, and if he goes to deep he will definitely turn into an incel. Who knows tho, this could be his biggest troll ever.
Greek is the type of guy you always want on the opposition, because they'll make a mild very easily agreeable argument, and then surround it by bullshit, conspiracies, and random incoherences that have nothing to do with the original argument completely alienating any sort of support from people who were on the fence on that issue.
Ive been following Greek since the Sodapoppin h1z1 days, and he's definitely the most unhinged ive seen. Just for the record, anyone that yells and make their whole character an "alpha" usually are the most insecure people you'll meet. People that are actually "alpha" doesnt put the need to berate others and lives their life happily. It's just obnoxious to listen to Greek at this point (although it's fascinating to watch). Hopefully he finds some peace because something is definitely gotten to him.
@@treali What I am trying to say is that is most people that try to be "Alpha" around other people and berate them to follow their "superior" life style are usually very insecure. Knowing how Greek has been throughout the years, he's text-book example of this in my eyes.
If you watched him back then, you would know that Greek was never like this, who he is now is a complete 180 from who he used to be, Greek used to be a giggly, troll carefree, actually funny content machine.
Greek says to stop telling men how to be men then continues to tell men how to be men… How about we all just try be be good human beings? Once you’ve mastered that, be whatever man or woman you want.
Literally 3 minutes into the video. Asmon tries to understand Greek's argument but then Greek doesn't listen to Asmon's argument and just calls him a "hater". Like.... WTF is this?
looks like the sunglasses guy wants to freely be able to insult others, and blames the victim for feeling cut down. i don't see why he doesn't see insulting others and cutting them down, as an act of weakness.
100% he treds the line of trolling an delusional so well that I literally cant tell what he's doing. I want to believe that he's just trolling for views though since everything he says is completely deranged lol
@@anacorn8824 He always had this kind of humor , the stuff he was saying was always outragous. When he was chubby people found it funny , when he got skinny people find it offensive :) Lol how about that
Yes he has no clue what hes talking about, Ive watched mma my entire life and done muay thai for 5 years now and he is literally sprouting pure nonsense.
In 100 years the technology will be better though. Like can you imagine a triangle choke in the 4th dimension? Suplexing someone through sine waves? Damn son you fighting 3d? I'm fighting you in 4d.
It's because Greek is trying to be like tate who is an actual seasoned fighter and serious guy, where as Greek is just a streamer going through a mid life crisis trying to be alpha. He's gonna end up getting his ass beat
I love the cognitive dissonance from Greek's character: berates people who take advice from social media and then praises himself and Tate for giving takes on social media and expecting people to both watch and agree, claims his online sources prove the Earth is flat and then berates other people who claim the planet isn't flat based on other online sources, claims being healthy, caring about family and self is all he needs and then gets angry over people's opinions on Twitter and cares about the "idiots that know nothing". The $5k /hr punchline to wrap it all up as satire. Perfectly executed.
Crazy dissonance. Purest example of complete narcissistic delusion was [1] we don't know how the pyramids were made; original humans thought the earth was flat; we have devolved since then technologically and by knowledge base [2] tate is necessarily more dangerous and necessarily better than tyson and others because he is from a further point from year 0 that those persons.
@@zoetak They act like insecure people(greek,tate) ,im a man and i do not need any other male to think they can define my worth of maleness. It is laugable stupid.
for anyone who thought Greek was just "trolling" there is no fucking way, no one gets that emotionally invested into an argument to just simply "Troll" it was personal and getting him very worked up and passive aggressive. No one acts like that consistently for that long without giving in saying they are trolling the dude meant everything he said. I've been around enough people like this to know he was not fucking joking not for a fucking second with anything he was debating.
I thought Greek was playing at first, and when I realized he was serious I lost a ton of respect for him. Never watched him and now I definitely plan on never wasting the time
The answer to "who would you rather have in a fight" is ALWAYS the chill guy thats not gonna implicate you in a manslaughter charge or die together with you on the pavement to some loony with a knife. You want the guy who grabs a stool to keep the guy away, gets your friends out of there and calls the police instead of letting his ego get the better of him and try to 1v1 people IRL.
You sir, are 100% right. Im in the military, being deployed multiple times and some dudes think "ou yeah lets go i have you with me, lets get into a fight".....and im like: We are not going to jail nor getting hurt over some stupid ass shit, lets all cool down and move along safely. I aint got no time for BS.
I'm almost 50 and i've been out partying a lot in my life and i've never been in a fight. Why? Because i don't look for a fight. I've been close several times, but i've managed to calm people down. A guy lite this bald moron WILL look for a fight, he will provoke and he will get a fight.
I would go with a friend. So if i was Asmon i would take Mcool. Not a some rando gym bro who so high on hes steroids that is bragging about hes morning wood...
Everyone wants to be all "Uuunga Buunga" until 1) You get stabbed/shot/your jaw broke 2) You get sued by the dude whose jaw you broke/you concussed and missed 3+ weeks of work 3) You accidentally kill someone because his head hit the pavement too hard and live with the guilt of a manslaughter charge + jail time 4) They decide to one up the "uunga buunga" and come back with 5 of their friends to jump you You should be ready to defend yourself; yes. But the key word here is DEFEND. Anyone who is 18-21 or older and still wants to engage in the High School behavior of fighting over stupid shit, is not someone you want to go outside with.
@@carcosanative666 100% well explained in detail. Be ready to defend yourself if theres no other way around it, but if there is....GTFO of the situation.
This guy speaks in tiny truths as if they are revelations. He is caught up on what makes him feel better because of his insecurities. Any small glance of truth that helps his ego is emphasized to a point where it is no longer a true statement. It is aspects of truth, but not even close to the whole. But he presses it like it’s the greatest truth. In a way he says nothing because of this. And clearly ignores half of reality consistently because it feels better to ignore what is completely fair.
Interestingly, you said many things here, without really saying anything. Who's "this guy"? How is he doing any of that? What, specifically, do you disagree with? Can you give any proper counter-arguments to his statements?
@@Gyvulys OP drew this comment out but it made sense, greek took an entire video to say that working out is good for u, along with saying that the earth is flat and that the moon landing was faked.
Damn, I don't say this lightly but I don't think I've heard of someone be -this- pathetic and pitiful as a human being. So angry over imaginary things and blaming everyone else for everything but himself. Man. It's just so sad.
Agreed, he’s been so brainwashed by this red pill BS and all these conspiracy theories. I used to feel bad for the guy but then I started to notice he never took any accountability and blamed everyone else for his problems, he’s clearly got major issues that haven’t been dealt with. I hope he gets the helps he needs and gets better one day.
@@Ovenglove55 the “he’s memeing” excuse is so overplayed and such a lie . He wasn’t memeing. He means everything he’s said and actually believes it. if you’ve watched him for years then you’d see him slowly turn into this toxic angry person who doesn’t take any accountability.
I understand what Greek is saying about how social media is pushing beauty standards on people who make people have body issues... so why is he defending Tate who in his videos talks about how women have to go to the gym and put on makeup and look their best for men. Like Greek is just spouting contradictions... How did he fall into this hole...?
@@Bugdeek Tate saying shit about beauty standards? There's the video Asmon watched right before this where he goes on a tirade about how if a man cheats its because the woman isn't making food or putting on make-up and says women should go do crunches if they have a gut. It's obvious that Tate has extreme misogynist views on women including how they should look.
Also the Earth is flat, even tho they proved a looong time in the past that its actually round. Everyone is wrong, moon landing is fake, you are controlled by food manufacturers
yeah man, i live in north africa and thats bad but not as bad as the middle east of china, or even central/south africa, the shit that goes down there, you can't even imagine unless you actually experience it. Even the stuff that happens where i live is absolutely insane.
Weight classes exist for a reason. Obviously a trained smaller fighter versus a big guy with no training at all is a mismatch but size takes away a lot of technical advantages
@@knighter1209 We are turning them into hermaphrodites if I understand/remember the actual science correctly. Alex Jones is correct about a lot, he just voices his opinion/facts so poorly at times that he is easy to take out of context. He is also occasionally wrong but voices it so vehemently that it looks worse when he admits it was wrong (which he does). Greek is the same way, a little bit of a troll, but makes okay points when you drill down to the core of his point. It is just poorly worded and he comes across as a condescending douche which makes it easy to discount his opinion/point.
@@fabiof.8152 Atrazine is a pesticide that at certain levels in the environment demasculinizes tadpoles and turns them into hermaphrodites. He dumbs it down, but he was right.
Asmon : "The earth is a globe." Greek : "So you are just going to trust some random guy?" Meanwhile he trusts a random guy on the internet that makes his living scamming people
I fucking lost it when Asmon just asked if the earth is flat. Just the delivery and response were great. I haven't laughed that hard in years. No idea who Greek is but I hope he's joking here cause oh lord.
Greek's a guy who got famous leeching fame off other big names on twitch. He was also extremely fat, but people liked him and he was funny. He lost weight, people congratulated him, didn't hear from him for a year and next thing you know he actually listens to sigma male tips unironically. He tries to imitate this behaviour, but doesn't realise people just clown on him. Tate actually makes money at least, lives in a McMansion and has supercars. Greek just lives in a shitty crib and watches hustle motivation vids.
I don't think he is trolling, i used to watch him at the beggining of his stream he was a genuinely funny guy, i guess he still is but he is just an insufferable low iq ego andy. It's sad that when he got confidence in himself made him unbearable.
@@Ubreakable-lr2dk Believing the earth is flat isn't a viewpoint. You don't debate objective facts. You might believe the earth is flat, but that doesn't change the fact it's not
@@Ubreakable-lr2dk Alright my viewpoint is that I am allowed to kill you and take all of your stuff, guess you have to respect that because it is my viewpoint after all
In martial arts my sensei told me “never forget..common sense before self defense” combat ready IS NOT combat willing. You don’t learn something to go out looking for trouble. It’s so you have the necessary skills for when either shit hits the fan or to assess the situation and be ready for whatever in general.
I love seeing someone with no experience in an actual life-or-death combat situation taklk about being "fight ready." I would rather not be around someone that I have to risk my life for to get them out of a bad situation.
Just a bit of info, for people like Greekgodx: I'm 196 cm (6.4 feets) height and 125 kg (275 lbs) weight dude (14 years of gym practice). I was trained Judo for 5 years, i practiced few other martial arts things (not for long, but still.). Now i'm learning how to fight with swords (HEMA) and with knife (just reading about modern knife fight and so on and compare to old one styles.) For 29 years of my life i was in fights (real one with broken bones and so on) just few times. 3 or 4 times in total. And i have something to say to dudes like Tate and Greek... Your "battle awareness"... It's a bullshit. You can't be always aware and you can't get "used" to this cinda of mindset. It's a lot of stress for your mental health, and if you "get used" to that state of your mind - it's a bad call. Dudes like Tate and Greek trying so hard to be an "Alphamale", but you know what? Alpha don't trying to be alpha, he just alpha and it's it. Asmon more Alpha than Greek and Tate. And i'm highly doubt in Greek/Tate martial art practice and so on. Because with years of training you become more calm and you have more control over your aggression. And phrases like "I wanna punch you in the face."... It's childish aggression... And its marks you like a person with weak mind. P.S. If i can be a strong man and fights back, i probably will start to protect persons who are weaker than me. But not bitching about people who are weaker than me.
@@sneedly3355 that was back in 2013, i would bet hes fallen off since then in terms of skill. the only experience he probably has in fighting recently is beating up his significant others/random women.
Too much time on 4chan and reddit. All the pseudo intellectual nonesense makes me think he lost connection with reality and irl friends. At this point I can't even tell if he is just trolling or just crazy. Either way it isn't really healthy type of humor or outlook on life.
Yea he's like "people judge others and compare to others it's pathetic" whilst also making fat jabs at McConnell whenever he can. Troll or not that pissed me off so much.
Wow Asmon handled Greek expertly. Agreed with him just enough to make him feel like he wasn't being victimised, all the while allowing him to make a complete twat of himself
It's so amazing to me how people interpret things so wrong. Greek said things that i don't agree, like some conspiracy, politics, election.. but for the rest of the video i, and asmon too, agreed with the things Greek said. And if you don't agree with his approach on fitness, social media, society in general, you don't have seen enough to understand how the world work
Greek didn't lose weight to get healthy, he lost weight because he wanted to get a girlfriend. When he realized that being fat wasn't his problem, he moved the goal posts and said "i wanted to be healthy."
I love how he talks about Mike Tyson being just a boxer and ignoring the fact he's built like a little ball of muscle. If the dude got into mma and learned to grapple even a bit he would have been a monster.
mike tyson was 220 pounds of pure muscle at the age of 15, he's 1 in a billion, so I disagree with him a little bit on that and for sure joe rogan would to
Yeah and Not only a ball of muscle, but one of the most gifted boxers of his weight class in history. The dude was sickly fast, incredible stamina, amazing reflexes and delivered power punches at the speed of light. Even today being retired and 50s the dude hand game is FAST AF.
@@earthphoenix7068 Yeah sometimes i watch fights of his prime......The dude is/was gifted and tuned to a masterpiece. The way he avoided punches while standing and moving the torso/head, the sharp punches, the combinations.. Incredible.
I felt dumb after watching this live. I used to watch greek alot, especially on his weight loss journey. Slowly his mind has become internet brainrot. He harbours a lot of anger and pain from his past. Finding idols in the wrong places who are telling him their "answers" to why he feels this way inside. Its sad and cringe to believe some of the many contradictions he made.
Man some things in isolation aren't wrong from Greek. But all together with his tone it's just comes off as rude and I hate to say it, but incelish. Asmon is right when he said Greek uses the harshest dialogue options
the dude is arguying about women issues for half an hour and pretty much saying there are all the same and only care about appearances then he is surprised when people call him an incel.
Listening to Greek navigate a conversation is like watching a kid play chess. They are making moves, but you’ve got no idea where they are going with it.
@Vercusgames I wish I got that I was fat 20 years. I'm ripped now after 5 years of diet/training but I've still got the confidence of that 450 lb man lol
For me, exercise completely shuts my thinking down. It's a welcome rest, and it creates a sense of clarity of a kind - but I might as well be braindead for the next hour or so.
Asmon done so well keeping this guy jabbering on.. a legit walking and taking highlight reel of cringe and shit takes, scary that guys like this actually exist, guy goes to a gym and gets some beginner gains and genuinely thinks, as he said himself, is a gift from God, amazing.
And thats the even lamer part. For all the time Greek has spent in the gym... lets be real here. It literally is just beginner gains. He is NOWHERE near where he could be at. Did you see the video of him saying that xQc looks like a heroin addict and calling himself a greek god?
I feel like listening to Greek has given me a brain injury. Greek: I don’t think anyone should tell me how to be a man. Also Greek: you need to do these specific things to be a man.
Bruh got his head stuck in a washing machine on the sterilize cycle and came out calling everyone brainwashed lmao. I appreciate asmon staying calm and trying to have a good faith discussion.
@Mio Rion Can you explain what you mean when you say the Egyptians were first to prove it? I tried looking into it via google and answers kept pointing to a greek mathematician
@@azerd1535 what I understand on my seniors days while I researched Ancient Egypt Civilization, they just observed one bright star (probably Sirius or Venus) just appeared near the sun while it sunset occasionally, and they also roughly know that a year is 365 days.
The greeks dicovered nuts we had pyramids in south america at the same time as the egyptians so is he telling me that the greeks got farther into the americas than the ancient wikings and poles no chance.
i still cant get over the fact that this hobo-looking-guy (asmon) is so fucking intelligent. Honestly I would rather have him in politics then as a streamer (although i got the feeling he wouldnt want to do that).
@@ekuda dont know if he made that statement in this video or whenever but i cant remember it . And i therefor obviously dont know the context . But yes in general thats a dumb statement. But hey, one dumb statement doesnt make all the good statements bad.
Who says if a fight breaks out that you must participate in it? I've been in clubs were 8 man brawls happen, all I do is stick to the outsides or leave. Being a "tough guy" is not worth a hospital visit or a criminal record
I feel like greek is in a really really bad place mentally, I don't think he really has bad core values honestly - just really insecure and lost, should probably honestly just give up on social media for a while and come back mentally strong?
He did leave social media during his weight loss journey. He came back brand new... so as his personality sadly. If he does leave another time, hopefully it fixes him.
"Back before we had the internet they were way smarter and had way more knowledge" five minutes later "No see, someone could look at Mike Tyson and take his best bits and Ali and take his and make the perfect fighter, we have so much knowledge thanks to the internet" Ladies and gents, arguing to win.
I consider myself a very pragmatic person. I watch Zach because I think he’s very pragmatic. I don’t know who this other guy is, but the one point I think Zach didn’t bring up…ok, this guy’s argument for the fake moon landing / flat earth is that you’ve not physically been there. However, he then later talks about bombings around the world. Using his own logic of “knowing the earth is flat and we haven’t been to the moon”, since he hasn’t been to the actual schools and bombing sites, how does he argue the bombings were real?
dude don't even bother applying logic to a person like this. Like Asmon often says himself: you can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
@@stijn4311 Yep, Asmon is just being as good as he can in this situation. He is pointing out the positives in Greek's thoughts to try and get Greek to focus on what makes sense and have a bit of a come down to earth moment. It's hard for me to tell if Greek is even genuine though. I've always assumed most things he said was ironic but now I can't even tell anymore.
you must not have heard of the people who believe sandy hook school shooting wasn't real it's sad and disgusting but greek fits the bill to believe it since it's just another conspiracy theory.
People like Greek somehow get in position of telling our young kids weird extreme shit without proof or facts. Like he lost weight and truly felt gigachad was him and his personality.
People can do they want. If a girl wants a boob job then she can get one, if a girl wants to wear a ton of makeup it’s her money to spend. As long as the partner isn’t being negatively effected by the plastic surgery or the makeup I don’t see a problem.
If Greek isn't playing a character, which is exactly what Tate is doing, then men are fucked. This rise in the radicalization of young men is truly troubling.
Greek: “ let me calm down so I don’t say something wrong”. Literally everything he said was wrong. Conspiracy theories and to be honest he does sound like he hates women. Making huge sweeping statements about women, pretty sexist. You don’t fix one wrong with another. Treat others how you would want to be treated. So put forth more positivity and you will receive that back. I feel like he spent too much time on toxic pages and it’s giving him a distorted view of the world.
Yeah. Don't know why Asmon went easy on him on the clip of Greek talking about what he wants out of a woman. The man clearly has insecurities and prejudice against women. Just because what he actually says isn't technically bad you can see right through that to what he really is.
Greek has always been an incel. He's been rejected so many times that he has developed this red pill mindset where he feels woke and thinks he is more of a man than he really is.
Lol, within the first ten minutes going from the world is flat because people knew more back then to saying fighters are tougher now because people know more as time goes by. Not the most consistent guy is he? Pretty entertaining to watch.
The moment you mention the earth is flat is the exact moment all credibility on all topics get thrown out the window. this was absolutely hilarious and entertaining. Thank You Good Sir.
The moment you take it seriously when someone who's obviously trolling says the earth is flat is the exact moment all credibility on all topics get thrown out the window
@@megatinmand5524 Given greek wasn't trolling there, your point is moot. He's down pretty much every conspiracy rabbit hole because he's terminally online.
Yes if you have to ask this guy Tate how to be an alpha male.. you’re already lost. If there is anyone who’s my role model it’s Keanu that man is one of the most humbled ones I’ve ever seen.
Greek is an example of how important it is to have an actual father figure in your life, otherwise you could start looking for an internet daddy like Tate
You realize all the shit greek is getting could cause him to hurt himself like Byron and yet u sit there acting like u care for him at the end. Everyone who is attacking greek can't even handle being called fat ass or they cut themselves. It's people like u who drive others to their deaths and act innocent.
Exactly like how when Byron kept asking for help or someone to talk to but the entire twitch community decided to not talk to him for risk reasons. The same people who talked about Byron as if they cared, but they are the ones who drove him away. Go rewatch Tyler1s clip after Byron.
I love how greek made this grandstanding claim that we have a moral obligation to act in a particular way for younger people to follow, then agreed with McConnel that people shouldn't be modelling themselves on others but instead live their own lives. He contradicts himself so much it just comes across that he's angry and wants to justify his anger by any means. Even as a troll it's unbearably obnoxious
There is a difference between respect/admiration, and idolizing someone, but i generally agree with the take that greek isnt thinking straight here with most of his examples.
You are misunderstanding what he said. His belief is that everyone should focus on their own lives but that's just not the truth and majority of the people are looking up to their role model. I am not here to defend him by any means, i think that he has bad takes but it is more like he is easily guided like a sheep, he watched videos of this guy andrew tate or whatever his name is and other people like him and he started acting like they are. He has always been a person that can easily be led on but he didn't have the confidence to say much when he was fat. I also hate how so many people make conspiracies about earth being flat even my father that is 67 believes that because he listens to conspiracies and nationalist people. I just can't understand how someone as learned as he is and he has a lot of knowledge on history and politics, yet he believes that earth is flat which sounds so dumb to me. That may be why i don't blame Greek and others as much for having the same thoughts as it is not impossible to fall into that rabbit hole of conspiracies.
@@000petar000 I understand what you're saying but I still find it to be contradictory. If we are to focus solely on our own lives then we should be unaffected by the behaviors of others. Instead Greek seems obsessed with how other people live their life, instead of focusing on what he thinks is of value for his own life he's obsessing over how he thinks others should lives theirs. Because he finds no value in social media he thinks that no one else can and anyone that does is wrong for doing so. I agree with everything else you said 100%, hes parroting all of the talking points that these kind of people use and with that comes this idea of superiority that you know something that everyone else doesn't. It's sad, because this kind of stuff only makes you more frustrated.
@@000petar000 and you're totally right, it's very easy to fall in to that rabbit hole especially when a lot of these people tend to use valid concerns at the base of what they're saying
I used to have the same mind set as Greek, till one day i realised believing in all this shit just breed hatred and anger towards pointless crap you have no control off and becomes self destructive.
Telling yourself to get healthy, workout and learn some lifeskills is apparently breeding hatred and anger? If anything he's just trying to tell people to focus on themselves more than care about what people post on Reddit/Twitter. Is he wrong about a lot of the conspiracy shit? Yeah, but like Asmon said he has fundamental truths about anxiety, depression and society that are taken to the extreme (because he's an entertainer) He's a professional troll and that's literally how he got popular in the first place.
So what do you believe in now? Do u think the moon landings happened? Questioning the lies is easy when your not brainwashed and able to critically think for yourself...hatred and anger fffffs give your head a shake
@@randomness4989 no just don’t get all worked up over shit u can’t control. Pointless just focused on myself and not the things that trigger other people like it used to for me
I saw a tiktok where a woman was talking about having a maybe 15 year old dude wait for her until he is 18, she said that he came around years later, and she fkd him. And the comments were pretty upset with her, she made a response defending that its okay, because she waited til he was 18, and now her tiktoks barely get any views, cus no one cares about her stuff anymore.
@@rinshaolin94 And that every man should be prepared to go into the wild and fend for themselves if the world goes to shit. Waste of time that could be spent doing a lot more enjoyable things.
I'm getting heavy Gootecks vibes from when he was in the beginning phase of losing his mind. Greek paid a steep price getting fit. It kinda unleashed his ego which was previously held in check by him being fat and unattractive.
Exact person that came to mind. Similar thing with gootecks was how defensive he got. I even remember gootecks taking someone wishing him and his family good health as a death threat.
the second i read your post i knew you were a fool like most people are.. let me blow your mind real quick - image search "un flag" why do you see what you see? fla.t eart.h + dome above. (hidden in plain sight). who's the pod eater now?
@@stayslapped1568 what I said does not invalidate what you said and even if he used to be a fitness influencer does not mean he doesnt look chunky now. I dont doubt he used to do wrestling or some type of Judo.
The fundamental flaw with these 'Gigachads' is despite these righteous societies they 'want' for people the crucial indicators of their success are the people they step on. Their goals are also hypocritically materialistic and one dimensional. I applaud asmon for dissecting this debate, but don't feed that guy money; he was a total dick to McConnell without incentive to gain any ground.
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This conversation:
Greek: starts with a decent take
Asmon: agrees
Greek: drifts into conspiracy, alphamale ape behaviour and bad metaphors
Asmon: starts arguing
Greek: changes topic -> Repeat
You should replace that first line with "starts with Andrew Tate's dick in his mouth"
and completely ignores the point Asmon is attempting to Argue.
Asmon: "Would this Tate dude actually square up and fight."
Greek: "Well, that's not what this guy is saying: he's talking about the avg joe being combat ready.... blah blah blah."
Greek, my guy. That doesn't answer the question: WOULD HE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IF IT CAME DOWN TO A FIGHT?
YES or NO and explain your answer.
everything me and my peers do not agree with is a conspiracy
grow up
@@NOSFERATU_ONE Greek has turned into a QAnon clone thinking the election was fraudulent, the earth is flat, bla bla bla. It’s predictable and pathetic. People who think like this should grow up
@@NOSFERATU_ONE Guess I chose my peers wisely then. My peers are shaping the world with the most effective tool of value creation today: research and engineering (actual research tho, not going down some internet rabbit hole)
Sincerely
- a grownup ;)
Either Asmond has a lot of patience, or he realized immediately the content gold. Either one, more power to him.
@@momqabt yeah it's funny seeing how Asmon react but I cant stand listening to greek's bs lol
How is Greek so right all the time?
Tone him down a bit and 95% of what he's saying is 100% true.
Asmon is surprisingly perceptive. He likes to play the neck beard gamer sloth roll, but I'm pretty sure it's mostly an act. He knew talking to Greek was gonna be content.
@@limitedhangoutlive 10% of the time he’s 100% right
17:12 I have never heard someone go from "Nobody has to be told how to be a man" to "If you can't do x, you're not a real man", so fast
Greek lost a bunch of weight and got yoked thinking it would make him this wanted alpha. In the end he’s lost his his personality and went down rabbit holes after realizing it’s not really the weight that kept the women away.
he's still classified as obese, hes not even fit
Speaking the hard truths over here, HOLY SHIT. DAMN.
Oooooffffff. That hit hard. Fr tho, Greek is just insecure. In his head he will always be that dumpy fat guy that got passed over for other better looking dudes. He got shredded for all the wrong reasons and now he is beginning his descent into inceldom after realising that women still dont want him.
Well, lets be honest. At that weight it definitely kept the women away. But just because the first roadblock was removed doesnt mean there arent more down the line.
@@stylishskater92 It depends, if you see his demeanor and his personality before, it was very goofy and not serious. Which is something a lot of people like. Now he's a lot more serious with more anti social ideation. However, so long as someone isn't a complete incel, there is probably a girl out there for them no matter the size. But if they turn into an incel, there is no girl out there no matter the looks. I would say that hes riding the line of douchebaggery down, and if he goes to deep he will definitely turn into an incel. Who knows tho, this could be his biggest troll ever.
Greek is so good at avoiding what Asmon is actually talking about.
After picking my brain up off the floor all I can say is, "Quality content.". Stay combat ready homies.
Greek - “we won’t get into conspiracies”
Literally less than 1 minute later
Greek - “yeah the earth is flat”
He hasn't eaten a pancake in so long so now everything he sees is flat
30 seconds later
Greek - "America faked the moon landing by the way"
Come on bro you've been to a bowling alley right? The lane is clearly flat
Nerds talking about fighting is worse
I loled 😆
Greek: *talks about fitness*
Asmon: *cracks open dr pepper*
that was funny as fuck
@@juice6521 He is in shape
@@earthphoenix7068 He's shaped like a rotten grapefruit.
@@sadqqwwqeq4175 Saw an obese mannequin at a target with a shirt on that said “Body Type: Real” on it. Shit cracked me tf up.
asmongold is a beta male :)
Greek is the type of guy you always want on the opposition, because they'll make a mild very easily agreeable argument, and then surround it by bullshit, conspiracies, and random incoherences that have nothing to do with the original argument completely alienating any sort of support from people who were on the fence on that issue.
@@ich3730 filled with straw and a painted white face with a red nose
Ive been following Greek since the Sodapoppin h1z1 days, and he's definitely the most unhinged ive seen. Just for the record, anyone that yells and make their whole character an "alpha" usually are the most insecure people you'll meet. People that are actually "alpha" doesnt put the need to berate others and lives their life happily. It's just obnoxious to listen to Greek at this point (although it's fascinating to watch). Hopefully he finds some peace because something is definitely gotten to him.
Like is greek actually joking or what? I cant tell
@@Elfyja its the cocaine
@@treali What I am trying to say is that is most people that try to be "Alpha" around other people and berate them to follow their "superior" life style are usually very insecure. Knowing how Greek has been throughout the years, he's text-book example of this in my eyes.
If you watched him back then, you would know that Greek was never like this, who he is now is a complete 180 from who he used to be, Greek used to be a giggly, troll carefree, actually funny content machine.
@@jasonlimweizen Exactly, thats why his recent antics gets highlighted because its such a big contrast.
Greek says to stop telling men how to be men then continues to tell men how to be men…
How about we all just try be be good human beings? Once you’ve mastered that, be whatever man or woman you want.
This right here. Simply Perfect.
lmao
Now now, that almost sounds like greek is behaving like a 'modern' woman. Oh wait...
Surprisingly, that what I try to be. Its not even that hard tbh
Literally 3 minutes into the video. Asmon tries to understand Greek's argument but then Greek doesn't listen to Asmon's argument and just calls him a "hater". Like.... WTF is this?
Asmon tries to dispute with facts, greek says "but you don't know the facts/didn't do the research how could you know"
looks like the sunglasses guy wants to freely be able to insult others, and blames the victim for feeling cut down. i don't see why he doesn't see insulting others and cutting them down, as an act of weakness.
Greek is either so good at imitating someone who absolutely lost his mind, or he actually lost his mind.
100% he treds the line of trolling an delusional so well that I literally cant tell what he's doing. I want to believe that he's just trolling for views though since everything he says is completely deranged lol
He is literally trolling lol
@@anacorn8824 He always had this kind of humor , the stuff he was saying was always outragous. When he was chubby people found it funny , when he got skinny people find it offensive :)
Lol how about that
He is a psycho. But he made some valid points. Like how Biden is not a better choice.
@@Jaime_Protein_Cannister idk humor is supposed to be funny. his takes were like 1+1=25. Its not true nor funny
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference" -Mark Twain
As someone that's trained and competed in Muay thai for 10 years hearing greek try to talk about fighting was the laugh I needed today
Yes he has no clue what hes talking about, Ive watched mma my entire life and done muay thai for 5 years now and he is literally sprouting pure nonsense.
Every time he said “combat ready” it made me chuckle.
In 100 years the technology will be better though. Like can you imagine a triangle choke in the 4th dimension? Suplexing someone through sine waves? Damn son you fighting 3d? I'm fighting you in 4d.
He is so clueless about what he talks about
Sounds like he thinks we're going to evolve another leg or arm in 100 years. He was insufferable.
Greek thinking he is a tough guy has got to be the funniest thing on the planet.
ngl even asmon would win in a fight vs greek
I feel like asmon is actually tougher than he looks
@@shanemg321 asmon is so integrated into WoW i would be fuckin scared too, imagine he got some real life WoW abilities, shit would be scary
@@knighter1209 have you not seen young asmon performing bladestorm (with a stick or traffic cone, cant remember)? Absolutely brutal
@@nutzor9594 im ashamed to say i havent seen that, one more reason to be afraid, though.
The greekgod fans gonna say he's just trolling while he's clearly losing it lmao
i feel bad for him cuz he will just will end up like etika thinks he is god and then boom realty check happens and have no one else in his life .
I genuinely think hes mentally deteriorated as the years went by. Whether hes trolling or not at this point its just cringe as fuck.
It's because Greek is trying to be like tate who is an actual seasoned fighter and serious guy, where as Greek is just a streamer going through a mid life crisis trying to be alpha. He's gonna end up getting his ass beat
lol right? The dude is having a break down. He's making a fool of himself very publicly, it's kinda sad and pathetic.
I do hope it's a masterful troll. if it's not his friends really should support him at this time.
I love the cognitive dissonance from Greek's character: berates people who take advice from social media and then praises himself and Tate for giving takes on social media and expecting people to both watch and agree, claims his online sources prove the Earth is flat and then berates other people who claim the planet isn't flat based on other online sources, claims being healthy, caring about family and self is all he needs and then gets angry over people's opinions on Twitter and cares about the "idiots that know nothing". The $5k /hr punchline to wrap it all up as satire. Perfectly executed.
good take - he's actually insufferable to listen to imo, with all that incoherent rambling
Crazy dissonance. Purest example of complete narcissistic delusion was [1] we don't know how the pyramids were made; original humans thought the earth was flat; we have devolved since then technologically and by knowledge base [2] tate is necessarily more dangerous and necessarily better than tyson and others because he is from a further point from year 0 that those persons.
@@zoetak They act like insecure people(greek,tate) ,im a man and i do not need any other male to think they can define my worth of maleness. It is laugable stupid.
For real, I'd rather shove forks in my ears then listen to Greek any longer
Please tell me he’s trolling
Please💀
for anyone who thought Greek was just "trolling" there is no fucking way, no one gets that emotionally invested into an argument to just simply "Troll" it was personal and getting him very worked up and passive aggressive. No one acts like that consistently for that long without giving in saying they are trolling the dude meant everything he said. I've been around enough people like this to know he was not fucking joking not for a fucking second with anything he was debating.
The guy is spiraling and being pretty cringe about it.
Welcome to the era of lonely men. Greek is a perfect example of that
Are we sure he just hasn’t committed to the act for content/relevancy? I could honestly see either side
The fact that you think that, is a W for greek for trolling you lmao
@@ninjaguy8871 who said it was a W for Greek?
I thought Greek was playing at first, and when I realized he was serious I lost a ton of respect for him. Never watched him and now I definitely plan on never wasting the time
This was the first video I saw with Greek, so I also thought it was a joke.
greek can't even form an argument without just saying someone is brainwashed or stupid etc. he definitely lives on 4chan and reddit
Stay in the kitchen and let the men talk
@@annyeongh8rs815 please stay in your containment board anon
@@annyeongh8rs815 Greek get off your alt
@@namenight7158 "Containment board" lol, best description I have heard of it.
@@annyeongh8rs815 stick to /mlp/ buddy
This Englishman did not just call out another country for stealing land
To the English its not taking land. Its making it more British. A.K.A. making it "better" in their eyes.
@@ade5691 bri'ish
The answer to "who would you rather have in a fight" is ALWAYS the chill guy thats not gonna implicate you in a manslaughter charge or die together with you on the pavement to some loony with a knife. You want the guy who grabs a stool to keep the guy away, gets your friends out of there and calls the police instead of letting his ego get the better of him and try to 1v1 people IRL.
You sir, are 100% right. Im in the military, being deployed multiple times and some dudes think "ou yeah lets go i have you with me, lets get into a fight".....and im like: We are not going to jail nor getting hurt over some stupid ass shit, lets all cool down and move along safely. I aint got no time for BS.
I'm almost 50 and i've been out partying a lot in my life and i've never been in a fight. Why? Because i don't look for a fight. I've been close several times, but i've managed to calm people down. A guy lite this bald moron WILL look for a fight, he will provoke and he will get a fight.
I would go with a friend. So if i was Asmon i would take Mcool. Not a some rando gym bro who so high on hes steroids that is bragging about hes morning wood...
Everyone wants to be all "Uuunga Buunga" until
1) You get stabbed/shot/your jaw broke
2) You get sued by the dude whose jaw you broke/you concussed and missed 3+ weeks of work
3) You accidentally kill someone because his head hit the pavement too hard and live with the guilt of a manslaughter charge + jail time
4) They decide to one up the "uunga buunga" and come back with 5 of their friends to jump you
You should be ready to defend yourself; yes. But the key word here is DEFEND. Anyone who is 18-21 or older and still wants to engage in the High School behavior of fighting over stupid shit, is not someone you want to go outside with.
@@carcosanative666 100% well explained in detail. Be ready to defend yourself if theres no other way around it, but if there is....GTFO of the situation.
This guy speaks in tiny truths as if they are revelations. He is caught up on what makes him feel better because of his insecurities. Any small glance of truth that helps his ego is emphasized to a point where it is no longer a true statement. It is aspects of truth, but not even close to the whole. But he presses it like it’s the greatest truth.
In a way he says nothing because of this. And clearly ignores half of reality consistently because it feels better to ignore what is completely fair.
Interestingly, you said many things here, without really saying anything.
Who's "this guy"? How is he doing any of that? What, specifically, do you disagree with? Can you give any proper counter-arguments to his statements?
@@Mich-G
I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in OPs comment. If you don't see it, that one is on you.
"this guy"? greek is an og twitch streamer that invented twitch podcasts, sleep streams, reacting
@@BloopSuperJuice that's great sunshine. Most of his takes are ass
@@Gyvulys OP drew this comment out but it made sense, greek took an entire video to say that working out is good for u, along with saying that the earth is flat and that the moon landing was faked.
Damn, I don't say this lightly but I don't think I've heard of someone be -this- pathetic and pitiful as a human being. So angry over imaginary things and blaming everyone else for everything but himself. Man. It's just so sad.
and yet he he thinks hes the pinical of man
He is memeing and you fell for it. Hard
Agreed, he’s been so brainwashed by this red pill BS and all these conspiracy theories. I used to feel bad for the guy but then I started to notice he never took any accountability and blamed everyone else for his problems, he’s clearly got major issues that haven’t been dealt with. I hope he gets the helps he needs and gets better one day.
@@Ovenglove55 the “he’s memeing” excuse is so overplayed and such a lie . He wasn’t memeing. He means everything he’s said and actually believes it. if you’ve watched him for years then you’d see him slowly turn into this toxic angry person who doesn’t take any accountability.
I think he is projecting. He didnt get any girls in the past, so he lost weight thinking that was the reason. It wasnt
Greek's lost it, he believes his trolls too much now. Doesn't even know the ancient Greeks determined the Earth was round, you'd think he would lmao
You're the one who believes the troll
@@megatinmand5524 cope and seethe.
@@megatinmand5524 you the one who thinks this is a troll...thats the sad part. Greek has gone delusional and is now insufferable to watch.
@@megatinmand5524 You are coping, coping and seething. You just can't accept what you're seeing~
Shut up low t male. You literally get beaten by everyone.
I understand what Greek is saying about how social media is pushing beauty standards on people who make people have body issues... so why is he defending Tate who in his videos talks about how women have to go to the gym and put on makeup and look their best for men. Like Greek is just spouting contradictions...
How did he fall into this hole...?
Because he is Anti-woke
Genuinely curious, can you show us an instance of him saying that?
@@Bugdeek Yeah he says it right here 1:04:31
I feel like he got on some drugs
@@Bugdeek Tate saying shit about beauty standards? There's the video Asmon watched right before this where he goes on a tirade about how if a man cheats its because the woman isn't making food or putting on make-up and says women should go do crunches if they have a gut. It's obvious that Tate has extreme misogynist views on women including how they should look.
This man is pulling all the stops from the playbook “I don’t want to admit that I’m wrong, so I’m ignoring what you said”
This dude is a rookie troll.
Best part is he genuinely believes the rubbish he spews
Greek: we are dumber than people I'm ancient times
Also greek: everything we do is evolving and we are getting better and smarter
Also the Earth is flat, even tho they proved a looong time in the past that its actually round. Everyone is wrong, moon landing is fake, you are controlled by food manufacturers
"if you live in US you have to be combat ready"
Somebody please take this man on a trip to the middle East or china
yeah man, i live in north africa and thats bad but not as bad as the middle east of china, or even central/south africa, the shit that goes down there, you can't even imagine unless you actually experience it. Even the stuff that happens where i live is absolutely insane.
"whoever is the biggest always wins" spoken like someone who truly knows nothing about fighting.
the audacity to say Floyd would lose to him in a fight because he’s short lmao
@@dangerousd1312 It's just pure ignorance coupled with insane levels of narcissism. Dude knows nothing about the topic and just goes off.
i think he was talking about people with similar skills, in fighting those things count its true
Weight classes exist for a reason. Obviously a trained smaller fighter versus a big guy with no training at all is a mismatch but size takes away a lot of technical advantages
@@Andrea-dw1ps He wasn't. There's no way this dude isn't trolling.
Tate and greek are what happens when you get rejected repeatedly but lack self awareness. They need to keep women captive with force and fear
for real this people really need help after that many rejection they start having a distorted vision of reality
Holy fucking shit. Greek has become the budget Alex Jones of twitch.
@@Ripcraze not even 1% of what Alex Jones spouts on a average day is true though
@@neek01 wdym i thought we were turning frogs gay
@@knighter1209 We are turning them into hermaphrodites if I understand/remember the actual science correctly. Alex Jones is correct about a lot, he just voices his opinion/facts so poorly at times that he is easy to take out of context. He is also occasionally wrong but voices it so vehemently that it looks worse when he admits it was wrong (which he does). Greek is the same way, a little bit of a troll, but makes okay points when you drill down to the core of his point. It is just poorly worded and he comes across as a condescending douche which makes it easy to discount his opinion/point.
@@Ripcraze Ah yes, the scary gay frogs sure were a credible and legit threat.
@@fabiof.8152 Atrazine is a pesticide that at certain levels in the environment demasculinizes tadpoles and turns them into hermaphrodites. He dumbs it down, but he was right.
Asmon : "The earth is a globe."
Greek : "So you are just going to trust some random guy?"
Meanwhile he trusts a random guy on the internet that makes his living scamming people
Asmons patience is astounding, This Greek dude is hard to listen to for a lot of reasons even if his heart is in the right place
I fucking lost it when Asmon just asked if the earth is flat. Just the delivery and response were great. I haven't laughed that hard in years. No idea who Greek is but I hope he's joking here cause oh lord.
Idk who he is but He has to be joking bro lol. When he said do research by watching videos, it made it obvious
Greek's a guy who got famous leeching fame off other big names on twitch. He was also extremely fat, but people liked him and he was funny. He lost weight, people congratulated him, didn't hear from him for a year and next thing you know he actually listens to sigma male tips unironically. He tries to imitate this behaviour, but doesn't realise people just clown on him. Tate actually makes money at least, lives in a McMansion and has supercars. Greek just lives in a shitty crib and watches hustle motivation vids.
I don't think he is trolling, i used to watch him at the beggining of his stream he was a genuinely funny guy, i guess he still is but he is just an insufferable low iq ego andy. It's sad that when he got confidence in himself made him unbearable.
@@jdc673 man I wish I thought that too. Life would make way more sense. But sadly the university of TH-cam is key for insane conspiracies.
@@jdc673 he is actually not joking... those guys always do "research" by watching YT videos...... like antivaxxers...
Man Greek’s gone nuts. I remember him living at Soda’s and being a funny guy on Nick and Malena’s streams, a lil eccentric but not this far gone
Yeah then he had to pay rent. Lol
yeah he was all funny n shit until he developed an other viewpoint then u have
@@Ubreakable-lr2dk Believing the earth is flat isn't a viewpoint.
You don't debate objective facts. You might believe the earth is flat, but that doesn't change the fact it's not
@@Psykaitic Thank you
@@Ubreakable-lr2dk Alright my viewpoint is that I am allowed to kill you and take all of your stuff, guess you have to respect that because it is my viewpoint after all
In martial arts my sensei told me “never forget..common sense before self defense” combat ready IS NOT combat willing. You don’t learn something to go out looking for trouble. It’s so you have the necessary skills for when either shit hits the fan or to assess the situation and be ready for whatever in general.
Explain the difference of your terms.
I mean he is right (yo sensei), if you have no gun and someone wants to fuck with you and has a gun you better fucking run away.
I love seeing someone with no experience in an actual life-or-death combat situation taklk about being "fight ready."
I would rather not be around someone that I have to risk my life for to get them out of a bad situation.
Just a bit of info, for people like Greekgodx: I'm 196 cm (6.4 feets) height and 125 kg (275 lbs) weight dude (14 years of gym practice). I was trained Judo for 5 years, i practiced few other martial arts things (not for long, but still.). Now i'm learning how to fight with swords (HEMA) and with knife (just reading about modern knife fight and so on and compare to old one styles.)
For 29 years of my life i was in fights (real one with broken bones and so on) just few times. 3 or 4 times in total. And i have something to say to dudes like Tate and Greek... Your "battle awareness"... It's a bullshit. You can't be always aware and you can't get "used" to this cinda of mindset.
It's a lot of stress for your mental health, and if you "get used" to that state of your mind - it's a bad call.
Dudes like Tate and Greek trying so hard to be an "Alphamale", but you know what? Alpha don't trying to be alpha, he just alpha and it's it. Asmon more Alpha than Greek and Tate.
And i'm highly doubt in Greek/Tate martial art practice and so on. Because with years of training you become more calm and you have more control over your aggression. And phrases like "I wanna punch you in the face."... It's childish aggression... And its marks you like a person with weak mind.
P.S. If i can be a strong man and fights back, i probably will start to protect persons who are weaker than me. But not bitching about people who are weaker than me.
I get what you’re saying but Tate is an actual world champion multiple times. I agree about the alpha part look him up, he can fight lmao
@@sneedly3355 that was back in 2013, i would bet hes fallen off since then in terms of skill. the only experience he probably has in fighting recently is beating up his significant others/random women.
This stream was wake up call for me. I should spend less time on Internet, god forbid I become this guy.
Wish you good luck
A hobby would be a cool alternative (i picked up pottery recently)
brother, as long as you have ridges in your brain you'll be ok.
Try gym, it changed me for life
Dang, honestly something is up with GreekGodx. It's pretty obvious. I hope he gets the support and help he may need
Too much time on 4chan and reddit. All the pseudo intellectual nonesense makes me think he lost connection with reality and irl friends. At this point I can't even tell if he is just trolling or just crazy. Either way it isn't really healthy type of humor or outlook on life.
I think you need help understanding what the internet is and how people act on it
@@namenight7158 The guy went all downhill ever since Reckful passed away.
How Greek treats Mcconnell is pathetic and speaks volumes about his lack of character.
Yea he's like "people judge others and compare to others it's pathetic" whilst also making fat jabs at McConnell whenever he can.
Troll or not that pissed me off so much.
@@TheXxdarkangel10xx oh my god wow what a hilarious and definitely original joke you should write for brendan schaub
@@SunflowerLotusXII triggered by jokes
They are friends , theyve known eachother for years, I dont think you know mconnel used to play in the among us lobbies with trainwrektv lobbies
Mconnell isnt some saint to be defended.
Wow Asmon handled Greek expertly. Agreed with him just enough to make him feel like he wasn't being victimised, all the while allowing him to make a complete twat of himself
It's so amazing to me how people interpret things so wrong. Greek said things that i don't agree, like some conspiracy, politics, election.. but for the rest of the video i, and asmon too, agreed with the things Greek said. And if you don't agree with his approach on fitness, social media, society in general, you don't have seen enough to understand how the world work
@@leonidsvetlov8964 yeah I'm sure that rambling buffoon knows how the world works LMAO
Learned from watching all those channel 5 news videos with Andrew 🤣
Greek didn't lose weight to get healthy, he lost weight because he wanted to get a girlfriend. When he realized that being fat wasn't his problem, he moved the goal posts and said "i wanted to be healthy."
A lot of men have it this way. And honestly Im not suprised girls wont flock on him xd
@@dieengie337it’s called gymcels precisely
I love how he talks about Mike Tyson being just a boxer and ignoring the fact he's built like a little ball of muscle.
If the dude got into mma and learned to grapple even a bit he would have been a monster.
mike tyson was 220 pounds of pure muscle at the age of 15, he's 1 in a billion, so I disagree with him a little bit on that and for sure joe rogan would to
He nearly bit a guys ear off. He is brute force in the dictionary
Yeah and Not only a ball of muscle, but one of the most gifted boxers of his weight class in history. The dude was sickly fast, incredible stamina, amazing reflexes and delivered power punches at the speed of light. Even today being retired and 50s the dude hand game is FAST AF.
@@KSO.81 sharpest punches ever in his prime
@@earthphoenix7068 Yeah sometimes i watch fights of his prime......The dude is/was gifted and tuned to a masterpiece. The way he avoided punches while standing and moving the torso/head, the sharp punches, the combinations..
Incredible.
I felt dumb after watching this live. I used to watch greek alot, especially on his weight loss journey. Slowly his mind has become internet brainrot. He harbours a lot of anger and pain from his past. Finding idols in the wrong places who are telling him their "answers" to why he feels this way inside. Its sad and cringe to believe some of the many contradictions he made.
i thought it was obvious that it was satire
@@knfbnny is it? i got no idea who greek is but he just sounds like the most brain rotted 4chaner to ever have an audience on twitch
At this point the line blurs and you can't yell
Okay armchair psychologist
@@megatinmand5524 it doesn't take a psychologist to see changes in people
Man some things in isolation aren't wrong from Greek. But all together with his tone it's just comes off as rude and I hate to say it, but incelish. Asmon is right when he said Greek uses the harshest dialogue options
the dude is arguying about women issues for half an hour and pretty much saying there are all the same and only care about appearances then he is surprised when people call him an incel.
absolutely right as soon as you start talking like he does you will just get peoples backs up even if your right
It's hilarious to hear someone who's just started working out finally for their first time talk like this. True walking comedian.
Listening to Greek navigate a conversation is like watching a kid play chess. They are making moves, but you’ve got no idea where they are going with it.
Greek: "My mind has never been clearer after exercising"
If this is the results, I should never exercise again.
Clearer because all the brain cells left lol
Fitness: not even once.
@Vercusgames I wish I got that I was fat 20 years. I'm ripped now after 5 years of diet/training but I've still got the confidence of that 450 lb man lol
Nah bro exercise lol. It does clear your mind. In his case, it erased his brain lol
For me, exercise completely shuts my thinking down. It's a welcome rest, and it creates a sense of clarity of a kind - but I might as well be braindead for the next hour or so.
Asmon done so well keeping this guy jabbering on.. a legit walking and taking highlight reel of cringe and shit takes, scary that guys like this actually exist, guy goes to a gym and gets some beginner gains and genuinely thinks, as he said himself, is a gift from God, amazing.
And thats the even lamer part. For all the time Greek has spent in the gym... lets be real here. It literally is just beginner gains. He is NOWHERE near where he could be at.
Did you see the video of him saying that xQc looks like a heroin addict and calling himself a greek god?
Christ this is just sad. Greek is literally that one friend who was quirky in High school then at their reunion you find out hes an addict.
Pretty sure obese and quirky are not the same thing.
I feel like listening to Greek has given me a brain injury.
Greek: I don’t think anyone should tell me how to be a man.
Also Greek: you need to do these specific things to be a man.
Bruh got his head stuck in a washing machine on the sterilize cycle and came out calling everyone brainwashed lmao. I appreciate asmon staying calm and trying to have a good faith discussion.
This was certainly a stream lol, so glad I was there for it
Definitely a gamer moment
this was one of the streams ever made
It was indeed a stream
best part was when greek morbed at asmon
Greek really isn't doing himself a favor by sounding completely serious here with so many undeniably bad takes, whether it's sarcasm or not lol
he call himself greekgod yet belive earth flat O_O! GREEKS where the first to proof it was ROUND LMAO...
Actually the Egyptians were the first to prove the earth was round.
Found the globetard!
@@miorion5964 His point still stands. Greeks also found out for themselves.
@Mio Rion Can you explain what you mean when you say the Egyptians were first to prove it? I tried looking into it via google and answers kept pointing to a greek mathematician
@@azerd1535 what I understand on my seniors days while I researched Ancient Egypt Civilization, they just observed one bright star (probably Sirius or Venus) just appeared near the sun while it sunset occasionally, and they also roughly know that a year is 365 days.
I couldn’t listen to the rest once I heard Greek not strongly agree of hitting a woman is absolutely wrong.
Equal rights equal fights
As a Greek, I want to inform the world we don't claim this dude.
Bro he is a troll, there is no way this guy is for real lol
Thank god asmon is articulate and can explain wtf greek is trying to communicate in a non aggressive way
The greeks dicovered nuts we had pyramids in south america at the same time as the egyptians so is he telling me that the greeks got farther into the americas than the ancient wikings and poles no chance.
sorry to break it to you but now asmon is agreeing with greek and is banning everyone critizing him
i still cant get over the fact that this hobo-looking-guy (asmon) is so fucking intelligent. Honestly I would rather have him in politics then as a streamer (although i got the feeling he wouldnt want to do that).
@@2Gambi2 he literally said he would rather die than take medication like what are you on
@@ekuda dont know if he made that statement in this video or whenever but i cant remember it . And i therefor obviously dont know the context . But yes in general thats a dumb statement.
But hey, one dumb statement doesnt make all the good statements bad.
Channel 5 vibes here. Brilliant content keep it up!
Who says if a fight breaks out that you must participate in it? I've been in clubs were 8 man brawls happen, all I do is stick to the outsides or leave. Being a "tough guy" is not worth a hospital visit or a criminal record
Or permanently staying six feet under.
I feel like greek is in a really really bad place mentally, I don't think he really has bad core values honestly - just really insecure and lost, should probably honestly just give up on social media for a while and come back mentally strong?
He did leave social media during his weight loss journey. He came back brand new... so as his personality sadly. If he does leave another time, hopefully it fixes him.
"Back before we had the internet they were way smarter and had way more knowledge" five minutes later "No see, someone could look at Mike Tyson and take his best bits and Ali and take his and make the perfect fighter, we have so much knowledge thanks to the internet"
Ladies and gents, arguing to win.
I consider myself a very pragmatic person. I watch Zach because I think he’s very pragmatic. I don’t know who this other guy is, but the one point I think Zach didn’t bring up…ok, this guy’s argument for the fake moon landing / flat earth is that you’ve not physically been there. However, he then later talks about bombings around the world. Using his own logic of “knowing the earth is flat and we haven’t been to the moon”, since he hasn’t been to the actual schools and bombing sites, how does he argue the bombings were real?
dude don't even bother applying logic to a person like this. Like Asmon often says himself: you can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
@@stijn4311 Yep, Asmon is just being as good as he can in this situation. He is pointing out the positives in Greek's thoughts to try and get Greek to focus on what makes sense and have a bit of a come down to earth moment. It's hard for me to tell if Greek is even genuine though. I've always assumed most things he said was ironic but now I can't even tell anymore.
Lmao don't bring this argument to greek or he'll get on some Alex Jones shit
you must not have heard of the people who believe sandy hook school shooting wasn't real it's sad and disgusting but greek fits the bill to believe it since it's just another conspiracy theory.
@@mee091000 But he doesn't which is where it falls flat. Besides, how could he know whether he's in the right spot or not.
People like Greek somehow get in position of telling our young kids weird extreme shit without proof or facts. Like he lost weight and truly felt gigachad was him and his personality.
“don’t tell us how to be men” - proceeds to tell women not to get surgery or wear too much makeup because he doesn’t like it
or he is just fucking watching dud who gives advice to HOW TO BE REAL MAN like....wtf
People can do they want. If a girl wants a boob job then she can get one, if a girl wants to wear a ton of makeup it’s her money to spend. As long as the partner isn’t being negatively effected by the plastic surgery or the makeup I don’t see a problem.
I genuinely hope that this is all a shtick that Greek is doing. Otherwise, he is one of the most insufferable people I have ever listened to.
If Greek isn't playing a character, which is exactly what Tate is doing, then men are fucked. This rise in the radicalization of young men is truly troubling.
Greek: “ let me calm down so I don’t say something wrong”. Literally everything he said was wrong. Conspiracy theories and to be honest he does sound like he hates women. Making huge sweeping statements about women, pretty sexist. You don’t fix one wrong with another. Treat others how you would want to be treated. So put forth more positivity and you will receive that back. I feel like he spent too much time on toxic pages and it’s giving him a distorted view of the world.
Yeah. Don't know why Asmon went easy on him on the clip of Greek talking about what he wants out of a woman. The man clearly has insecurities and prejudice against women. Just because what he actually says isn't technically bad you can see right through that to what he really is.
@@DaniloBeirne its likely he just doesnt want to abandon a friend who clearly in a bad stage of their life
@@Fearoq Who said he has to abandon him
@@DaniloBeirne Honestly, I would abandon a friend who's as delusional as Greek is. I'd rather not waste time with someone with 12 IQ.
The only thing I agreed with Greek on was that it's okay in society for women to hit men. Thought the hatred he has for women is concerning.
We are witnessing the real time progression of Greek becoming an incel
Greek has always been an incel. He's been rejected so many times that he has developed this red pill mindset where he feels woke and thinks he is more of a man than he really is.
Becoming? He’s been one for a while.
Lol, within the first ten minutes going from the world is flat because people knew more back then to saying fighters are tougher now because people know more as time goes by. Not the most consistent guy is he? Pretty entertaining to watch.
almost like thats the point
@@The_Mandalor He had to be joking about being a flat earther though or he really is a moron, or insane.
@@ThwipThwipBoom nah he talked mad shit like this when he was just T1 content
to be fair, the world isn't ROUND...
its an oblique spheroid... -Stephen Fry
wrong.. let me blow your mind real quick - image search "un flag" why do you see what you see? fla.t eart.h + dome above. (hidden in plain sight).
I love hearing social media warriors talk about being combat ready like it's an action movie!
Bruh. Does Greek put on a copium mask/tank when he goes to sleep every night? Holy. He’s delusional.
He injects it. For a more quicker and intense dose.
he’s probably not getting much sleep to begin with
@@dangerousd1312 you might be right about that
@@Zefar77 yeah good idea that’s how I do it too
The moment you mention the earth is flat is the exact moment all credibility on all topics get thrown out the window. this was absolutely hilarious and entertaining. Thank You Good Sir.
U think greek Made a Joke? He isnt the smartest Person Just saying
11:22 he mentioned "planet" instead of flat worlds so he's probably trolling or he's completely lost track of all his favorite conspiracies.
@@obe22099 or just stupid
The moment you take it seriously when someone who's obviously trolling says the earth is flat is the exact moment all credibility on all topics get thrown out the window
@@megatinmand5524 Given greek wasn't trolling there, your point is moot. He's down pretty much every conspiracy rabbit hole because he's terminally online.
"Never interrupt your enemies when they are making mistakes" Sun Zi or some shit
I think the worst take he had for me was that homeless people are the happiest people on the planet.
Yes if you have to ask this guy Tate how to be an alpha male.. you’re already lost. If there is anyone who’s my role model it’s Keanu that man is one of the most humbled ones I’ve ever seen.
Greek is an example of how important it is to have an actual father figure in your life, otherwise you could start looking for an internet daddy like Tate
You realize all the shit greek is getting could cause him to hurt himself like Byron and yet u sit there acting like u care for him at the end. Everyone who is attacking greek can't even handle being called fat ass or they cut themselves. It's people like u who drive others to their deaths and act innocent.
Exactly like how when Byron kept asking for help or someone to talk to but the entire twitch community decided to not talk to him for risk reasons. The same people who talked about Byron as if they cared, but they are the ones who drove him away. Go rewatch Tyler1s clip after Byron.
Spot on. I 100% agree.
@@DuMaMayDewLay In a way i feel like Byron kept Greek sane while he helped him lose weight
Bingo
I love how greek made this grandstanding claim that we have a moral obligation to act in a particular way for younger people to follow, then agreed with McConnel that people shouldn't be modelling themselves on others but instead live their own lives. He contradicts himself so much it just comes across that he's angry and wants to justify his anger by any means. Even as a troll it's unbearably obnoxious
There is a difference between respect/admiration, and idolizing someone, but i generally agree with the take that greek isnt thinking straight here with most of his examples.
You are misunderstanding what he said. His belief is that everyone should focus on their own lives but that's just not the truth and majority of the people are looking up to their role model.
I am not here to defend him by any means, i think that he has bad takes but it is more like he is easily guided like a sheep, he watched videos of this guy andrew tate or whatever his name is and other people like him and he started acting like they are. He has always been a person that can easily be led on but he didn't have the confidence to say much when he was fat.
I also hate how so many people make conspiracies about earth being flat even my father that is 67 believes that because he listens to conspiracies and nationalist people. I just can't understand how someone as learned as he is and he has a lot of knowledge on history and politics, yet he believes that earth is flat which sounds so dumb to me. That may be why i don't blame Greek and others as much for having the same thoughts as it is not impossible to fall into that rabbit hole of conspiracies.
@@fredfredburger5150 it should be remembered that only emotionally undeveloped people think that people that disagree with them are idiots
@@000petar000 I understand what you're saying but I still find it to be contradictory. If we are to focus solely on our own lives then we should be unaffected by the behaviors of others. Instead Greek seems obsessed with how other people live their life, instead of focusing on what he thinks is of value for his own life he's obsessing over how he thinks others should lives theirs. Because he finds no value in social media he thinks that no one else can and anyone that does is wrong for doing so. I agree with everything else you said 100%, hes parroting all of the talking points that these kind of people use and with that comes this idea of superiority that you know something that everyone else doesn't. It's sad, because this kind of stuff only makes you more frustrated.
@@000petar000 and you're totally right, it's very easy to fall in to that rabbit hole especially when a lot of these people tend to use valid concerns at the base of what they're saying
I used to have the same mind set as Greek, till one day i realised believing in all this shit just breed hatred and anger towards pointless crap you have no control off and becomes self destructive.
Telling yourself to get healthy, workout and learn some lifeskills is apparently breeding hatred and anger? If anything he's just trying to tell people to focus on themselves more than care about what people post on Reddit/Twitter. Is he wrong about a lot of the conspiracy shit? Yeah, but like Asmon said he has fundamental truths about anxiety, depression and society that are taken to the extreme (because he's an entertainer) He's a professional troll and that's literally how he got popular in the first place.
So what do you believe in now? Do u think the moon landings happened? Questioning the lies is easy when your not brainwashed and able to critically think for yourself...hatred and anger fffffs give your head a shake
So you took drugs and accepted the world as a fairy tale where everyone is happy?got it
@@randomness4989 no just don’t get all worked up over shit u can’t control. Pointless just focused on myself and not the things that trigger other people like it used to for me
Greekgodx reminds me of Poeple on Discord: Cringe, trolling, Annoying, Arrogant, etc..
People like him, I'll just ignore him.
I always thought that Greekgodx was just a troll, but this dude has gone nuts
I saw a tiktok where a woman was talking about having a maybe 15 year old dude wait for her until he is 18, she said that he came around years later, and she fkd him. And the comments were pretty upset with her, she made a response defending that its okay, because she waited til he was 18, and now her tiktoks barely get any views, cus no one cares about her stuff anymore.
“You’re so brainwashed Asmon.”
Oh the irony is too good.
Greek actually lost his mind, living in the 1600's with a 30 year lifespan.
a lot of the stuff is somewhat decent except for the earth flat stuff
@@rinshaolin94 I think he's just a bit unhinged. The guy probably just needs to get laid.
he need's to get off the drugs!! hope the best for him
@@rinshaolin94 And that every man should be prepared to go into the wild and fend for themselves if the world goes to shit. Waste of time that could be spent doing a lot more enjoyable things.
@@rinshaolin94 Yeah, I agree. Seems like people are being overly critical, because a lot of what Greek was saying is understandable.
I'm getting heavy Gootecks vibes from when he was in the beginning phase of losing his mind.
Greek paid a steep price getting fit. It kinda unleashed his ego which was previously held in check by him being fat and unattractive.
Exact person that came to mind. Similar thing with gootecks was how defensive he got. I even remember gootecks taking someone wishing him and his family good health as a death threat.
We gotta make him fat again
McConnell should never ever be disrespected period, he is a true paladin.
The second he said earth is flat .. He became tide pod eater in my mind 🤣
the second i read your post i knew you were a fool like most people are.. let me blow your mind real quick - image search "un flag" why do you see what you see? fla.t eart.h + dome above. (hidden in plain sight). who's the pod eater now?
“The Most Pathetic Alpha Male” in the title should have been for this video about GreekGodX
I’d like to point out that Greek called the reactor a fat neckbeard, but he’s actually in pretty good shape
I don't know he's definitively kind of chunky and let's face it making vids is not the most active of jobs out there.
@@Smug1eaf he used to be a fitness influencer
@@Smug1eaf you’re completely wrong, go watch his other videos
@@stayslapped1568 what I said does not invalidate what you said and even if he used to be a fitness influencer does not mean he doesnt look chunky now. I dont doubt he used to do wrestling or some type of Judo.
@@Smug1eaf youtube isn't an active job at all, but suggesting someone can't be active if their job is inactive makes 0 sense
Listening to Greek makes you cringe so hard and often that your face gets an actual workout
“Fat neck beard reviewing the guy”
Phillion is 6’4” 215 and deadlifts 515lbs
Would rather have him than Greek any day.
Greek speaking on authority about things he knows nothing about is absolutely incredible.
I'd rather have McConnell with me in a fight if he pops off in real life the way he does on stream 😅🤙
He’s combat ready 😂😂😂
somehow when greek lost weight he lost braincells
Were there any left to lose?
The fundamental flaw with these 'Gigachads' is despite these righteous societies they 'want' for people the crucial indicators of their success are the people they step on. Their goals are also hypocritically materialistic and one dimensional.
I applaud asmon for dissecting this debate, but don't feed that guy money; he was a total dick to McConnell without incentive to gain any ground.