BMW R1300GS (2024) REVIEW | Two days of extensive testing
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It’s the bike we’ve all been waiting for - the 2024 BMW R1300GS.
Replacing a bike that considered by many to be the perfect bike, it’s certainly got some big shoes to fill, so how does it stack up?
BikeSocial's Adam' Chad' Child spent a couple of days in the Spanish countryside around Malaga, riding both on and off road, to find out.
Here’s our full review:
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No need to feel sorry for us with the "older" model.......perfectly happy with it!
Looks fabulous, very much looking forward to riding one.
I’ve no doubt that the new GS is an absolutely fantastic bike, but Bennetts, this sounds so much like a paid review, the reviewer has not found a single fault with the bike, not even a nitpick - you’re risking undermining your whole channel.
Why doesn’t the bike have illuminated switch gear ?
Why was the off-road segment so short, it didn’t tell us anything meaningful.
I’ll be booking a test ride next year as I’m questioning whether to upgrade my current 1200GSA, but I’ll be checking out other reviews for a balanced opinion.
I know right! Pathetic isn't it! I own 4 bikes and I could go to town on all of them. And having ridden many GS's I never found them faultless - or I'd have one!
meanwhile every other reviewer brings up some BS "negative" just to make you happy. Just like saying your biggest flaw is working to much, when at a job interview
Well done BMW. I quite fancy a used, low mileage, 1250 GS with all the bells & whistles. The new 1300 should give me a better choice of traded in 1250's 😁
I’ve got one for you if you want. Triple Black (2021), 18000km, fully equipped. Cheers! ✊🏻🏍💨
If the price is right.
@@olivierfouassier6495
I bought my 2019 R1250GS Rallye Te when it was 18 months old and had 950 miles on the clock…
They are lovely and their values will be rock bottom when the next new registration comes around in March. But it then as the economy will be on its knees.
I love mine, but then 21 years ago I loved my 1150 for 12 years. You can’t really go wrong. Enjoy 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Have my 40th anniversary model. Just running in my new Aprilia 660 Tuareg
Its lighter, more agile, its fun, they’ve changed everything!
Just looking at one in my local dealers now. Second thing that jumped out after headlight was the new finish to engine and final drive casings. Hopefully more resistant to UK winters
Plan to get this in 2024 😊 refined and reliable ❤
LOL
Great review!
Ta
GREAT VIDEO !!!!
One of the first things I did on my r1250 was replace the handle bar plastic lever guards with a set of metal Barkbusters. Now I see that the r1300 has the turn signals built into the hand guards. So watch what happens as people drop their bikes and break the hand/lever guard/turn signal. I can already hear the complaints about how much that will cost.
there’s an optiom without them afaik
A $30,000 bike and you're sweating the cost of a broken turn signal in an off?
Just saying, whatever the cost of the new bike, people won’t be happy when replacing a hand guard/ turn signal. For me, I replaced the plastic guards with metal guards because I’ve broken a clutch lever, way out in the middle of nowhere and it was a long trip home.
@@davideskelin8266 Shh, don't tell anyone but the GS is really made for the street. That's why it comes with street tires, no crash bars, a big windshield, 145 hp, and turn signals in the handguards, etc. Just get the enduro package if you want conventional turn signals.
You got a good point there.
this performance jump from the 1250 to 1300 is akin to the jump BMW made back in 2005 from the 1150 to the 1200. for those who don't recall, the 1200 was "narrow", "light", and "fast" and yet there was still alot to like about the previous 1150 since it's extra weight and extra mass gave it less high frequency "buzz".
because a new gs is out does not mean the outgoing model is obsolete, but the 1300gs looks amazing, and by the looks of it, it is an improvement to an already spectacular bike.
Being a short arse the 1250gs felt to big for me but this one I like, like it a lot, I think BM have made a very desirsble machine here and I,m defo going to test one.
Be interesting to see how it performs here in the Aussy outback, wether its as rugged and reliable as the older model
I thought all the angry people were fighting over the Gaza Strip but apparently they’re in the comments section of the GS1300 review.
Great video and content, thanks!!! That alternate display mode with the speed in the left upper corner, is that a new feature for the 1300 or can it be done on other models!
Woohoo finally!
Great review, sounds a great bike. But please get camera angle sorted, the off road section was difficult to watch!
I dare say it's a cracking bike, but the looks aren't doing it for me. Maybe it will grow on me...
the 1250 wasn't everyones cup of tea
Great video! I’m in the market for an Adventure bike. My main ride is an Ultra HD. And the BMW GS 1250 &. 13 along with the HD PamAm & Triumph. I guess I can take the 1250 off now😂
I love my 2023 bmw g310gs baby g. I can do everything except costs about $19000 less and its amazing off-road.
I had one aa a loan bike whilst my RT1250 was in for service, I gotta say I thoroughly enjoyed the ride, great fun 🙂
@@boballen2932 thats great! I have a whole channel dedicated to the 310 and explore all of it's capability both on road an off-road...have a look😁
Well finally! When all the reviews said that the 1200 was perfect along came the 1250 and fixed all the 'faults' that the reviewers forgot to mention. Now the 1250 was the perfect best bike ever but thankfully the 1300 has come along to solve all the issues of the 1250.
All flippancy aside it is better looking. It's almost light enough for me to consider ( always preferred the XR and I'm not a huge fan of IL4's ) But I will take issue on 2 things - A mechanical screen has got to be a better option as why would you add complexity to something so simple? Something that is more expensive, more weight and gonna fail eventually. "Almost all..." people will choose the ESA - well this is the issue isn't it, journo's view it as a loan bike which they can give back at any time - would anyone doing real miles and wanting to keep it for 100k ( only 7-10 years at nearly £20k BTW ) I would definitely be inclined to keep to mech suspension and upgrade accordingly ( like I have with my Duc ). I know an ex Bahnstormer sales manager who told me how 'they would say' that if you bought a base non esa BM then they wouldn't have it back at the end of the PCP. At least they're reliable....LMFAO
For me, its small. Feels a lot less substantial than my current 1250GS. Maybe that’s the intention but as a distance comfort tourer I can’t see me swapping. Be interesting to see the GSA / 1400 next year
I have a 1200. I like it it works for me.
At some point I will trade up to a newer lower mileage bike. Almost certainly a GS. Which one?
It appears the 1300 may still have the features I like. I chose the GS for its long distance comfort and its versatility. Sometimes I just ride around town and go to Starbucks.
Sometimes I ride it a bit harder and put it away wet and dirty.
The 1300 might even be better. To shiny. I will wait for a used one. With the protection.
I liked my 20lt tank and used almost its full range. I didn’t want the added weight of a 30lt tank.
Of course you do. Probably 500 miles a year with your permanent "Captain Adventure" aluminium panniers on meaning that you can't filter but you hold up the real bikers. At least you have somewhere to put your Quorn wraps....
It sounds like a great bike, but it's going to take me a minute to get my head around it. The 1250 seemed perfect. It also seems like they are trying to make it so you have to buy their bags instead of having options, maybe I'm wrong. They won't sell you a service manual either.
I understand the tank is 1 liter smaller..so hows the range? That's the biggest gripe on my 2022 1250gs. When your really pushing the highway speeds, range really suffers. Now they make a new one with a smaller fuel tank? Not for me.
Reserving my decision to upgrade my R1250GSA to a new bike until I see what they do with the GSA or what will probably be the R1400GS
You know if the new DSA suspension also the front preload is adjusted?
Hello, nice bike what about the high ? I am 5.1 and is hard to find a low bike for me. I ride F 800st but i like to switch for gs
What’s your inseam measurement? I’m also 5’7”, but it’s all about inseam rather than height. Genuinely interested to know.
Strange the design without the knobbies (like the one you reviewed here) really just looks like a normal road bike. I think its BMW just finally acknowledging the demographic of their avg buyers and what they typically do with it? Perhaps also positioning it now as that area between propper ADV bikes and their K range touring bikes?
Hehe hopefulyl grab an old 1250 for a good price in the spring!
Is the transmission, especially using the quickshifter/blipper, less agricultural than on the 1250? Is the quickshifter now standard on the base model (thinking about the rental market that mostly uses the base model)? Given the improved power and handling, does it make up much of the gap between it and the S1000XR for mountain twisty touring?
Sold my 2023 XR for this. The quick shifter on the GS is still terrible. The XR is also much more the sport bike. However, the wind protection and smoothness at speed on the GS as well as pillion comfort is why I now have the GS Option 719 🤘
You can customize everything in this bike and EVEN you can instal rear STOP signal, which BMW didn’t consider seriously.
Me, a normal guy tested this motorcycle. Yes, it's gadget whise better and more nimble. The character of it is like a supermotard with off road tyres, which I personally don't like. I still prefer the pervious GS models and am curious how the new GSA model will end up.
Yes, but try Bennits quote. They don’t list this bike. No joke they don’t list it.
Given the cost, I'm struggling to see my buying this over a Multistrada for road use.
The prices are similar, if not more for the Duke.
For road use I'll take a shaft over a chain everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
The Ducati V4 motor is in a different league to the previous boxer, I can't see this new boxer being a challenge to my current Multi V4S but I will be trying one.
Not a V twin multi for sure. The ducati crosstourer perhaps
Excellent review!! Thanks 👍
I like.
GS was always good for getting a newspaper on a Sunday. The GSA is going to be £25k or more
I don't doubt this is good but there was an ad in bahnstormer for a brand new GS Trophy 1250 TE for £13k, that is crazy cheap considering what they used to cost before this
Have they just build a SuperDuke and slapped a BMW badge on it? Is it still a GS? I get that they want to build a bike that fits more riders but what about tall riders?
Were you riding without gloves (5.42)?
Add a 17" version as I'm done with pretending I want to do two-tracks, etc. Might get me off my Pikes Peak.
0:47 did not need to improve the gs you say ? are you sure about that the weight improvement is definitely welcome
It's still a good un says our tester Ernie bore
It looks less comfortable than the old one, like the knees are more bent and the seat is narrowed.
I wouldn't even call it a follow up. The 1250 was an updated 1200. This is something else. The update isn't the 50cc anyway, that's just marketing and doesn't really matter.
"nothing can be transferred from the old to the new bike" - yes it can, the rider can be transferred 😂
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New doesn't mean better 🤔 personally. I tend to stay away from new models, including cars, until they have addressed any problems they don't know about yet 😂
1st run of BMW s tend finish off the road testing I'll wait a year 18 months
With BMW I'd agree.
I've never had that problem with new Japanese bikes.
For sure, the car/motorcycle makers are using the new buyers as beta testers. After the first batch, they know the faults and security issues to fix them and then really launch the real vehicle as iteration.
@@splodge5714 Me neither, but I have a mate, who loves his BWMs, has had 5 on the trot, but would never buy a "1st edition"
@@flexywing same, I know people who have only had BMW bikes for over 40 years but wouldn't buy a new release for at least its 1st year. They have too many problems and some big recalls.
dunno if i'm more interested in the bike or these twisties!!! WHERE IS THAT??
MCN UK did put it on scale..... 261KG!!
The wight BMW say is only for a plain bike with NO exfra..
bloody hell! It's here!. silly comment... but does it look smaller?😄
That was my first thought as well
It is smaller as far as I know. Which is not precisely bad, if I liked the rest of the bike. Which I don't.
Slimmer fairing but not really smaller
I’d like to know if there’s going to be an adventure model or is this it.
As in spoked wheels? I imagine there will be. But this is it besides that. Not sure I love their current direction. I have disliked BMW's direction in both bikes and cars for over a decade now. They are a company that lost all sense of design and function.
No I meant as in bigger tank and scaffolding. I think the 1300 can come with spoked wheels. I agree, I think they're foolish to not offer an adventure model. Time will tell but I certainly won't be rushing out to buy one.
@@matthewkirkland2504 yes. It definitely seems like they are aware most people who buy ADV bikes end up just using them on the road. Some people do use them as the name implies, but the big majority of people who buy expensive ADV bikes tends to be people who are far beyond being able to really use them. They've become a status measurement, or a style statement, rather than what they are supposed to be. And BMW is all for that as that sells bikes.
I'm led to believe it's on the way? same CC but called the 1400? @@matthewkirkland2504
In a years time. It will be called GS1400. Same engine.
Do we know the price of this beast?
Why can't they make an 800 boxer twin gs with 90 hp around the 10-11k mark
I'm waiting for R1600GS six cylinder
The bike design looks like a model of a computer games 😂
Finally, a big GS somebody in their 20s and 30s can actually ride and look the part.
With all that testing it would of been nice if you told us what gas mileage you were getting.
How come you didn’t mention the new quickshifter and how smooth it is? 😢
riding an S1000XR currently (with a butter smooth quickshifter), I find the 1300GS quickshifter very clunky and choppy from 1st to 2nd gear, and less (but still noticeable) from 2nd to 3rd gear… from then on, it works well. Downquickshifting works well down all the gears. I personally don’t get why all reviewers are so ecstatic about the new quickshifter; I’ve ridden 2 R1300GS with both less than 1000kms on the odometer, but the quickshifter could not impress me in the lower gears
@@erikmichiels6151 that’s good info, I was considering the S1000XR for the smoothness of engine and gearbox 👀
@@rafaelcordoba13 yes, the S1000XR is the way to go then… just remember that torque is (relatively) low: max 114Nm at 11500rpm (if I recall correctly): the new GS has always at least 130Nm from 3500rpm on…
Obviously amazing....but a bit too much tech for me
Can those flashing rear lights be turned off?
This is a side effect of digital camera's, not the bike (lights are fixed)
150 NM this is crazy with 237kg
Bmw replace the front and rear lights , it needs a dedicated break light , I. Strong sunlight breaking and turning you can’t see the indicators this isn’t only dangerous it’s as I found out on test life threatening
Gs owner doing this review ktm 1290 was scrutinised so much i sense a paid reveiw from bmw????
Now looks like BMW trying to outdo Triumph rather than other way round
Have been riding too much Honda, right? At 13:42....I didn't know BMW had DCT. Neither did BMW.
Envious you say.. No, I don't think many R1250GS riders will be.
The engine sound noises and more rattling to me than the 1250.
No one has mentioned how good the gearbox is, why !!!
Because it probably isn’t much different
"nothing to prove" says its really good
All it needs now is a DCT type transmission.
Go africa twin
@@kuntekng I have NT1100. Good machine.
@@sunrisejak2709 good choice
@@kuntekng Now about 27,000 km and 1 year. Ride all over Thailand. Full luggage with panniers and top box. It's also not as tall as an Africa Twin so easy for me at 169cm. No mechanical problems and it's great for touring,,, even in heavy rain. 😉 The DCT is really nice to have. (my 3rd Honda with DCT) Happy so far with the NT1100. My friends ride GS's and I ride just as fast and far and the NT1100 performance is pretty good considering it's "only" 100hp. Seems enough actually. 😁 I also use Android Auto 90% of the time. So Google maps and Spotify are enjoyable for long trips. I average about 22km/liter or about 50 mpg US and I get over 400km per tank. 👍 So far so good. I traded my BMW F900XR and I don't regret it. I know you didn't ask,,, but I thought I would share! 😊
@sunrisejak2709 yea I agree. Too bad we don't have it in Malaysia market
Price!!!
Maybe hes never seen an HD catalogue for accessories if one thinks BMWs endless.
1300cc quarter of a ton all terrain motorcycle . Does the warranty include crane hire if you drop it off road ..🤔
Plenty of bikes under 1000cc with more weight
Easy to pick up with the right technique. Remember, they don't fall over all the way!!
The weight is low, it doesn’t fall flat, and it’s easy to turn on the ground - my 1250 gs is easier to pick up than my Crf 250.
How is 12kg a massive weight change. Would be hardly noticeable. 30kg would be a noticeable change in weight. Please quote wetweight in future as dry weight is meaningless in practical terms. I have been told the gearbox is now below the engine which suggests to me the c of g which is an important consideration will be higher ie more top heavy, why no mention of direct figures comparison with the older 1250. All these little elements you mention are only more things to go wrong. Thks
Have you seen whether there is new luggage for the 1300GS? One gripe I have with that on the 1250 is its weight relative to, say, the ABS plastic paniers and top box on the S1000XR, which are substantially lighter and sleeker. Even when wearing my riding gloves, carrying the heavy GS paniers from bike to hotel room painfully dug into my hands. Their design harkens me to the Tom Hanks’ luggage in Joe and the Volcano.
I have those plastic type bags on my Multistrada, and if you fall over or crash...its ridiculous $$$$ to fix. I mean absurd.
I suggest a big soft luggage setup. They make these huge one piece kits that drape like a passenger, and also modular systems. But basically soft luggage is king because we all have parking lot falls and a lowside is not the most unheard of thing, ya know?
@@KNR6292 It gives you a big incentive not to drop the bike. A real crash will break any panier or top box. I want something functional, not weighing a ton that dig grooves into your fingers when you carry it. I like the XR's plastic paniers - lighter, more aerodynamic and functional. The ones on the GS are overkill and dysfunctional IMO.
This is not a review. It is a BMW ad.
👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Yet they couldn't engineer in illuminated switchgear or Apple Carplay/Android auto..... Hmmmmm
It sells because it’s the best package for the road, I know because I’ve had three, love my Ducati but I’m test riding one of these next time. Love all the haters comments, they need to try one or get back in their cave🤣
I will be doing the same trying one but I doubt it will come close to my Multi V4S in handling and engine but it sounds like a big step up from previous models.
@@ItsAllJustBolloxI ride a lovely V2S, V4S would be my choice next time….
@@IanTed a good choice 😊
I’m really torn, it’s clearly a much better bike to ride but it’s so ugly, that headlight is dire 😣
I used to have a girlfriend like that.
@@thewoodster8607 what cross eyed .. 🙂
If you really look at it objectively, without comparing it to the previous model, I think it actually looks pretty cool…
Why increase engine size? 1.2 not enough? 🤔
The boxer is losing out in the power top trumps to the competition a bigger engine was the only way to try to close the gap.
This new model lost the masculine look compare to its predecessor. It looks terrible like the Honda NC 750. I just can’t unsee it.
Old one is masculine like an old bearded woodcutter, this new one is still masculine but without the beer belly 😂
Sports bike for shorties wrapped as adv tourer, I'll happily stick with current version
This makes no sense, as if you think sports bikes are TALL 😂😂
Eh?
@@GPR111 exactly
Why is the rider in front of you riding the bike like a off-road rider?
Sorry guys not to follow you with some things, first it isn't cheap to go running to a nearest dealer, the bike loose some weight but it is less heavy more than light, it gain some power but it is the ^weakest^ of the big adv bikes, for the ^price^ it doesn't have a proper rear stop light, the rest real world usage will tell, cheers
Dont, please, don’t touch the paint!
Not a very good review (IMHO). No reference to the competition, no focus on the changes, no discussion on the flaws. Its a perfectly good GS, just like the last one and the one before it. If you like GS's you will like this one. If you don't know why BMW felt the need to change the GS (again), then you don't know about the alternatives, and the alternatives *are* interesting.
Sounds like it shows up the old GS for what it was..... bit of a dinosaur 🦕
This one will be worth a try.
Funny how it was so good a month ago though...... 🙄
13:40 DCT you wish
Premium bike. Plastic hand guards ?
NOBODY IS REVIWEING AND COMPARING THIS BIKE FROM A PASSANGER (BACK SEAT) EXPIRIENCE POINT OF VIEW
Another launch in the same place as usual with all the usual suspects giving their boilerplate reviews after a couple of days riding in groups in the sun and being fed for free. Yay...
When do the actual reviews come out?
I don't know why I'm watching this, the GS hasn't ever appealed to me. For me bikes are supposed to be exciting, to be interesting to have character.
The GS is, and always has been a great bike, but for me, because it's such an all rounder and can just do everything well it makes it numb to me, makes it boring.
Id rather have something less good, if that makes sence.
This to me is basically the bike equivelant of a VW golf GTD. It can do everything well and there's nothing more you need, but exactly because of that it simply doesn't have any appeal.
It looks just like the Suzuki V strom the king of adventure lol bye bye GS
The Vstrom will be more reliable and half the price too lol
Progress: No tail light, an electrically-adjustable screen (I’ve never once changed my screen height once I found the position to minimise buffeting), a 12Kg weight saving that doesn’t include the centre stand and with the lithium battery as standard, 1L smaller tank, no braided brake lines, adjustable ride height that’s identical to a low seat with an indistinguishable handling difference and yet more pointless tech (which will go wrong, and will be BMW prices to fix) to ensure you can get to Starbucks even faster, and even safer. When the LC came out, did the TU models suddenly vanish? No, they held their prices very well in the used market. And that was an evolution. This is not an adventure bike, it’s closer to a scooter. It’s lost most of what gave it the identity of a GS. I’m sure the PCP fanboys will lap it up. No thanks!
Shaft drive needs replacing at 48k miles not covered by warranty 😂
Haters gonna hate
First GS I actually like. 😊 Including the 800 gs models.
@@bikerbri2003never going to bother me…..
Been riding since a Fizzie in ‘75. Never owned a bike with that much mileage on it. Even my old 1150GS made it to 33k miles and then I sold it (for a Harley 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣)
Don’t like it, don’t buy it. Let others do their thing, without the hate.
Like Japanese bikes... They give you THIS year WHAT they could have given you Last Year...😏😏😏😏😏
This is probably the best GS BMW has on its hands, but it's SO SO ugly and so small and looking like a toy that i just could never replace my 1250 with it. Ouch.
How much did BMW pay for this review?
Nothing. Next question please?
Too expensive buy the basic at over 15 thousand spec it up cost more than the top spec bike ,lots I like about the bike, the Prices I don’t,
No one actually buys, they're rented.
I would never swap my 1250 for this motard. Testdrive proved just as dissapointing as the looks. You feel divorced from the drivetrain somehow. Weightsaving from reducing tank size and installing lighter battery is no real improvement. The dissapointment of the decade.
The SUVs of the motorbike world. Sounds like a tractor as well, perfect for Chelsea owners.
The new GS doesn’t offer an adjustable windscreen whereas the old one did? He didn’t even mention the lack of backlit controls? No discussion about what was actual weight savings and what is just gaming the system?
Terrible review y someone who doesn’t even know the GS.