Deviance: Crash Course Sociology #18
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- What is social deviance? Who defines what is deviant and how to people come to behave that way? Today we’re going to explore biological and psychological approaches to explaining deviance, including what each perspective can bring to the table, and their inherent limitations. From there, we’ll explain the sociological perspective and the social foundations of deviance.
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I remember when I was in college I took a sociology of deviance course. It was one of the highlights of my degree. I remember writing a paper on the cannibal fetish online community and how it functioned. Life is strange.
Interesting. What did you find?
There was a cool angle of how these kinds of interests had no way to become communities until the internet, and that for many it was a fantasy. So there's an unspoken dichotomy between fantasizers and those like Armin Meiwes who actually did it, or would if not for the law. there was also a Dom and Sub thing going on because there were some that fantasized being the victim rather than the.. consumer? I'm trying to keep this as clean as I can since this is crash course :P
Absolutely fascinating! I love learning about the stranger sides of human.... sexuality?
Now that's a question and a half. Fetishes both are and arent related to sex. There's a whole library of debate about the nuances of it. Kink is a whole thing.
I'm part of the kink community myself. But not every part of it. But yes, I can certainly relate to that.
I am entirely sure she once had purple hair
She has fake bleach blonde hair, which is more socially acceptable , and thus less deviant than in the past. For a while purple or green hair was in fashion, and thus not deviant. Indeed not changing styles can be socially deviant if the fashion has changed.
@@brettknoss486 That's irrelevant to this dude's comment though... He's just saying she probably put in the bit about purple hair because she probably used to have her hair dyed purple.
@@grahammyhill6717 it absolutely is. Social change is a topic for sociologists.
brett knoss No duh, of course it is. But they didn’t ask what color her hair was, you just pointed it out for no reason
Dear Crash Course:
Nicole is AWESOME. Please let her host more series! ;-)
Left-handedness was considered negatively deviant in the past. Any lefties here were set right by their elders?
My granny was beat with a cane at school for being left handed. She writes with her right hand now but its not the neatest.
bonus fact: the word sinister is derived from the latin word for left (dexter is right)
I really enjoyed this and shared it with my deviant friends.
this is the best crash course series ever
I just started intro to criminology at university and you explained this waaaaay better then my professor
I honestly believe that who you are is based on a mixture of nature & nurture that creates who you are, based on repetition so to speak, but we do have free will, & it's not going against other peoples judgment, it's about going against your own, which is possible.
You don't have a time machine, you can't change the past, you do have free will, so you can choose your future.
Feeling confident on just watching this just before exams 👌
It's pretty interesting is it not! And like others have said it's really reminded me of a sociology course I took in undergrad. I'm sure I can work some more social science themes into our upcoming episodes.
It's very similarly explained in linguistics in Politeness Theory where they distinguish Positive Face and Negative Face in the very same context.
In my country, being a TH-camr is considered deviance!
Where you from friend?
it should be considered that in all countries.
Mr IY are you from North Korea? ROFL
Are you North Korean or Chinese?
I guess you guys, besides op, didn't get the meaning of deviance
thru-out childhood i endured taunts of "freak", "weirdo", "tree hugger" and "hippie" from classmates and fellow church choir members, as well as from family members.
this continued into adulthood, with co-workers replacing classmates.
i had no idea why this was happening, but it seemed to be due to my talking to plants and animals, reading voraciously and preferring my own company to vapid socializing, so i decided to embrace it. 😇
if "normal" means living a scripted life filled with selfishly pursuing your own personal pleasures at the expense of others, as it seems to be to me, then i'm all about embracing deviance, as long as it involves being free to think for yourself. 🌷
Criminals being more physically fit from my mild passing observation is from two causes. One, they do a lot of fighting and running so its a benefit to have strength. Two, when in jail/prison theres NOTHING TO DO so they work out.
On the topic of muscular features and mass being a instigator to one's chance of crossing paths with the law through deviancy. I would assert that the muscle is not the causation but an asset, if an individual was going to commit a crime, being muscular in stature would be an asset to the criminal and decrees the risk, thus may increase the persons criminal confidence in doing criminal activities. While a criminal without this asset would be less inclined to commit physical intensive crimes and thus the persons criminal confidence is down when compared to the muscular one, witch I assert would make their chance to commit crimes less likely.
At last we did deviance!! Thanks, Nicole!!
Twenty first! :D
My first thought was she totally picked the right dress for this episode xD I love this course, it's awesome!
Hello! Thank you so much for this video and the whole course, is is so great!
I love this crash course series.
I notice that most of the mechanics of society mirror high-control religious groups and cults. What's the difference?
Could their be positive sanctions for deviants?
Cliques? Gangs?
Of course. For the purple hair example, while most elders will give you strange looks (negative sanctions) your peers can compliment you or give you a high five (which are positive sanctions). Sanctions are pretty much the reactions from your behavior.
Really good information.... But can you guys slow down a bit??? Just when we are understanding a point.. You are already finishing another point...
Completely unrelated but WHERE do you get your wardrobe from? I'm obsessed 😍
can a thing be deviant for one person in a society and normal for every other person like that one person in that same society? are there things that everyone filling a certain role are considered okay to do except for one person? what is that one singled out person? if they do the same things as the people around them and are labeled deviant because of some quirk of the society, what are they really?
if a person does the same things as other people but other people call those things deviant _only_ for that one person, what is that?
I mean not to bash anyone but
It’s the enslaved not slaves .we were enslaved.That is what our Caribbean studies teacher taught us.
I love this series
so helpful .thanks maam from philippines .
Could it be that bigger guys are more able to be criminals, regardless of social pressures?
that makes sense.
Plus, people who tend towards crime are more likely to value physical strength and thus spend time cultivating it. then their social norms, and genetic predispositions both get passed on to the next generation of their offspring.
There's also the fact that people who do manual labor are more likely to be strong AND poor (and more disillusioned with society and the law). A person with a well paying desk job is probably not robbing banks.
+Correctrix This was my thinking is as well. It probably shows up in statistics but aren't enough of a factor to be considered a predictor on its own. I think she was trying to hint on the broader causality in the video though. Culture, biology, upbringing, it all plays a role.
I don't think you can focus on one aspect like that.
Also consider that many crimes do not require a biosex male to have greater than average strength. There are a wide variety of non-violent crimes and weapons (specifically guns) enable anybody to threaten the life of another. Finally I submit that you don't have to be stronger than average to gain an advantage, you just have to be stronger than your victim.
MainlyHuman Firearms are not a magic talisman, they require both strenth and skill to be properly utilized. A compentent shooter requires years of training and practice, and many thousands of rounds of range time.
That being said, testostrone definitely plays a roll. It encourages greater risk taking and more muscle mass.
Males have always needed both of these traits. The line between a sheepdog and a wolf is very fine, and crossing between predator and protector is very easy in a means context.
Are sociological rules unbreakable ? I mean i dont label anyone for example, and what would happen if we would all be devient. I would personally say thats just the way society usually develops but i dont think these rules are unbreakable.
Say I hanged a whole bunch of Papua New Guineas cause I believed they are inferior. " I don't want to be labeled a racist or Murderer.... "
This is where your logic is bad, and not useful.
Javier E Castillo i dont geht your point at all, you should be called a murderer and racist when you kill people because you think their race is inferior. this is law. what i meant is that i dont sanction anyone who behaves a bit different or looks a bit different than the Norm.
It's 2 am, I have a Sociology Exam by 10 am and I am freaking out!!!!
I am takin this with a hint of salt
awesome video
G'day,
Well, having some Individuals deviating from "the Norms" in all sorts of ways and directions has traditionally been seen as a Species thus having something of an "Insurance Policy", against all and any possible unforseen sudden changes in Environmental Conditions which might result in most or all of the "Normal" Individuals being culled by circumstance....
If contemporary Corporate Life in an Industrial City is considered to be a "Rat Race" of (Human) Lemmings, all trying to reach the head of the Pack, competing with each other to lead the rest of Humanity's "Norms" over the Cliff of Anthropogenic Global Warming's Tipping-Point, to set off a runaway Greenhouse-Effect...; then being the sort of "Deviant" who realises that the Racers are all running in a stupid direction might be a mark of both intelligence and reasonableness, as well as an unwillingness to work hard at a Project which needs to be stopped, as soon as possible.
I personally live on the very outside edge of a Society which has become so out of touch with Reality (ie, "Psychotic") that they light Fires, to make their Food become Cold...; I can't bring myself to join in with them, so I use a 1920s-vintage Trafalgar Cold-Safe to keep my Beer cold, it uses between 5 and 10 Litres of Water per Week, drawing it's "operating energy" from the Air which it cools...(!).
One day, when the Oil Pipeline becomes unplugged and the Electric Grid is thus depowered...; it'll be the "Deviants" and the Oddballs, the Hillbilly Hermits and Recluses, those who have withdrawn away from the Mainstream, "far from the madding Crowd...", who'll have some chance of inheriting the Earth - as the Meek are long prophesied to be going to do, in the Long Run...
Because, come the Day..., all the "Normal" trendy Racing Human "Rats" will have taken their Running Jump over their Cliff, all planning to magically either evolve a set of Wings with which to fly away, or functional Gills enabling them to breathe underwater, all before they fall into the Sea at the foot of the Cliff....; and drown there, owing to the enormous difficulty of swimming with multiple Fractures while unconscious, from impact with the Ocean...(!).
Just(ifiably ?) sayin',
Take it easy...
;-p
Ciao !
Oh joy. I can't *wait* to read these comments
Cool video!
Boxing: what "evolved" from a primitive approach to resolving conflict.
Add gloves, ropes, clothing, rules and a ref. Now it's socially acceptable.
I'm not against it, but that example carries a little irony.
ok, but geez slow down! You gave me headache :D Good talk anyway, really informative
I'm sure that unusual hair colors will always seem a little weird to me, but some people just fail to pull it off, regardless of social norms.
.... so nobody has a problem with the runway slave examples .. idc
you are perfect!!!
JSB180? Anyone?
how do you get punished by not eating meat? probably not a good example of deviance.
Im deviant
What does it mean if the presenter speaks continuously through the video? All I'm saying is that David Attenborough has a different style. 🤔
I believe people don’t normally have deviance because change is different and uncertain and people don’t like that
i see sansa stark sitting on the iron throne
I'm a deviant :D
Gotta love those low jabs.
i wish she was my teacher 🥺🥺🥺 imma get my 10 on exams!!
nice
It is interesting that the examples of studies on deviance you gave were all based on males. Maybe further insight could be gained on deviance by also studying females. There are women in prisons also. I wonder if a less cringe worthy word to replace deviance is divergent?Meh! Great video anyway.
This comment section could get messy if we wanted to.... Name something you think is not normal
Trolling in YT comments.
Sitting on Ceilings it could be haram
People running in speedos. Stop that!
Social Security.
Homosexuality. I GOT YOU. Bull's Eye.
Your predicated world is an illusion and so are your conclusions.
please make video on Donald Trump medical health care program
Health Care Triage has done a couple of great episodes on that.
How about hipsters, aren't they inherently deviant?
"WRONG!" Are you sure? High T = more muscle, more aggressive.
I'd assume it has more to do with social constructions of gender roles. For example, toxic masculinity suggests that males generally are not shown how to express their feelings correctly, being told that crying or showing a "sensitive" side is weak and for females as females tend to be seen as the weaker sex. Not expressing emotions can cause a pent up anger and to be violent because its what is known the majority of the time, also it can be seen as a learnt behavior and could have correlation to environment too, like class or status etc. Yes there is a correlation to higher testosterone and being muscular to be violent but not necessarily the causation. Females who have PCOS have higher testosterone, does that mean they have an increase chance in being violent too?
2:00 she must've dyed her hair purple at some point...
Presenter is going waayyy to fast for me - did she take something before this was shot, geesh slow it down a bit
why do you think the "blame the victim" mentality regarding deviance so strong?
she. talks. so. fast.
Does anyone else just sit here and feel like a more educated and liberated individual for knowing what why and how social norms occur and happen. *cues michael scott voice and yells outside* hahaha you insecure fools
Because context and pragmatism don't really exist
me me good boy
why does she talk that fast? xD ( 2:30 )
I get the feeling they speed up the video to reduce the runtime. If you could drop it back to like 85% it would probably sound about right.
Nice try, but I'm no deviant.
lol
Wow, this is such a dated concept that I am surprised they chose to cover it. I guess they want to be completionists lol
Detroit:Become Human..
Literally speaking, "non-normative" means "wrong", because "normative" doesn't mean "common, typical, or average", it means "what ought to be". So if "deviant" means "non-normative" then it is an insult. (Thankfully, that's not actually what it means. It means atypical, which is not the same thing as non-normative).
Slow down! Give the ideas space to breathe, for goodness sake!
sorry watch this and can't help but think how they made Juggalos on the FBI list as gang members because they listen to music
Wanting to kill deviants is deviant XD
You really need to be careful with young impressionable minds on these topics, trust me, I remember it all too well... To my knowledge some of the research on this even today is incredibly,,, deviant. 😐
calling people looking at uncommon hair colors an attempt by society to suppress deviance is like calling asteroid impacts an attempt by space to suppress thr growth of life.
I don’t like u I like the guy better
My issue is people who choose to be deviant because they don't want to be like the "normal" people in their lives. Then they dive in head first without researching the social stigmas of their chosen deviance. Then all of a sudden they are crying because they are at a disadvantage because of the choices they have made and want everyone to treat them like a victim of a judgmental society instead of what they really are, only victims of their own ignorance and impulsiveness.
Stop, you can't be dropping common sense on these "differently abled" brains around here. Its damn near a war crime in these parts
"So they refused to accept a biological explanation" or why social science is not real science.
Sophus VD virgin detected
No, they refused the biological explanation just because sociology is an independent science itself that doesn't need to rely on other science's theories.
and instant communism
they should do a Crash Course Statistics, it would help many psychology undergraduates across the world
I was required to take multiple stats and upper level Maths as part of my Psychology degree. Grammar was also required. ;)
Professor Lenoard on TH-cam is amazing and I do think they have some for some topics
Pretty sure khan academy has some videos on stats
so helpful .thanks maam from philippines .
nice
lol
watching this as part of my remote learning for sociology class
🎵 crime is not actually
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The Biscuits you got Batman entirely wrong
Wow! 2 hours worth of information in less than 10 minutes. Good job!
Everyone is deviant, but some are more deviant than others...
Yep
I really appreciate the content of your talks-but the hyper tempo and clipping of normal pauses in speech is, for me,
very stressing. It leaves no time for reflection on the ideas you present. It may be trendy to present one´s
ideas in this style- But a little breathing room between thoughts would help me be able to evaluate your ideas.
Thank you for your efforts.
I'm studying for Sociology and you explained this so well. Thank you!
Ah
So are normies a deviant's deviant? Maybe one day they will flip places.
Crash Course is consistently my favorite Sunday YT subscription. Off to watch the video now! Thanks, guys!
You are free to go watch Crash Course Physics instead, then.
She talks faster than Eminem can rap
don't scroll down you'll lose whatever faith you have left for humanity.
can you talk any faster?.. Without breathing !!!
I really like her content but she talks way too fast. Jesus
A runaway enslaved person you mean... I had to correct her
Although i appreciate the remarks on Biological essentialists and psychologist, there was no real discussion of actual sociologists in this episode? 'Deviance is not a quality of the act the person commits, but rather a consequence of the application by others of rules and sanctions to an “offender.” The deviant is one to whom that label has successfully been applied; deviant behavior is behavior that people so label.' (Becker, 1963, p.9) Like Becker? When discussing labeling theory of deviance how could you miss out Becker, not even in passing? I also understand that this series' discussion has been primarily American based but there were other options like Taylor, Walton and Young? However, I do understand if the plan is to carry on to discuss actual sociological writings in the following episodes.
It's called a Crash Course it cannot discuss everything people expect of it.
Mariusz J It's also crash course sociology. Not crash course Psychology.
I believe she closed saying she is going to get more in depth on the next episode.
I'm beginning to think that the idea of deviance is an illusion, mostly because I'm beginning to think that the idea of normative behavior is an illusion. Normative and deviant behavior have varied so much across history, and societies, and even generations that I have to wonder if human behavior can be typified; or if the powers that be simply wish to isolate and express certain behaviors for some benefit or another. Social groups of varying sizes and scopes seek to control the chaos that is human existence, focusing on specific ideas and behaviors in order stabilize a core set of values, values that are constantly in flux often coming up at odds with the will of the people. I know that not everyone is a fan Nietchze, but it is here that his tenet of nothing is true everything is permitted rings truest, it's just that what is permitted changes from era to era, and it changes so readily because there is no right answer.
Illusion is not really an appropriate word to describe it. It is very much arbitrarily normative. It exists in our minds, though, it has very real consequences.
This is basically what social (and moral) relativism says - and that's not a good path to tread down (seriously, it gets so silly that philosophy has spent the last century trying to rid itself of that malaise). Also, practically, both science and society typically define deviance in terms of what's deviant in the current social context, not across all human time and space. The latter definition of deviance leaves with a handful of things that are primarily useful only as a lens for things like evolutionary psychology, linguistics, etc. But for both everyday living as well as any research pertinent to the present day (which is not just science research, but also for things like public policy), you're better off sticking with the usual definition - what sticks out where and when you are, not from the entirely of human society.
Do you have some kind of source for philosophy trying to turn away from social and moral relativism? Not challenging you or anything, just curious. I've always observed that lots of people nowadays seem to prefer the idea that "everything is relative".
It's because of how the socially acceptable and deviant behavior works. The theory is that as time goes by, society eventually begins to slowly accept certain socially deviant ideas into what is socially acceptable. For example, in the past the idea of gay marriage was shunned in the society of the past, but now it's being slowly accepted.
And now you've leapt from Sociology to Psychology. They differ. There is no normative. Mythology is a tool.
this was my entire first half of the semester. Don't take deviant behavior, just watch this.
The units on deviance were my absolute favorite from my college Sociology courses. It's a riot to dig into deviance, from the progressive to the damaging to the ridiculous, especially when we got to do projects in acting out and documenting the response to deviance. My friend and I took the ridiculous route, and we spent a couple hours with me wheeling her around campus in a wheelbarrow while she played the Pokemon theme song badly on her clarinet. It's not exactly the deviance most people think of, but it's certainly not normal, and our professor got a kick out of it.