Loaded x Pantheon Collab Trip -Unboxing & TOTALLY UNBIASED review from team rider!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- Come along with me to get to know the new Loaded Pantheon Collab Trip.
Links to check out products and/or to purchase! Think fast Supplies are limited.
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Loaded x Pantheon Collab Trip Board:
i.loadedboards.com/163-103.htm
Orangatang Kegels (My favourite all round wheel):
i.loadedboards.com/163-81.htm
Orangatang Caguamas (Most comfy wheel):
I.loadedboards.com/163-17.htm
Video Links
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Loaded x Pantheon Collab Trip Product Video:
• Loaded Pantheon Trip C...
Dead for the last time - Film by Adam Colton & me (Paul Kent):
• Longboarding - Dead Fo...
Long Treks on Skate Decks Morocco:
bit.ly/LongTreksMorocco
Long treks on skate decks Peru y Bolivia:
bit.ly/LongTreksPeruyboliva
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
00:44 Who am I?
01:39 Unboxing
09:16 Review TLDR
09:28 Interruptions
11:17 My experience with the board
12:54 Feature Review
17:58 Specs
21:24 Trying to find Cons
26:29 TH-camr crap
27:31 Goodbyes are awkward! - กีฬา
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Heads up! I didn't realize at the time of filming this that this was a limited release. The numbers of these boards are already getting low. Go here to get yours -> i.loadedboards.com/163-103.htm
You will still be able to get the Pantheon version later, but the Collab version will likely all be gone in the summer.
i think i ordered the last one that is deck-only in my area yesrerday ... oooh yeeeaaah
It was my first Pantheon 🤩, actually the board that made my switch between loadeds to pantheons 😂 your video helped too 😊
It's the board that had me switch from my previous partner Rayne. (I still ride loaded boards too). I hope you are enjoying them.
I'm glad I was able to help.
Just about to get back into longboarding for the first time in a few years so the timing of the release of this deck is perfect.
Heck yeah Oliver! I had to take some time off for work and for an injury. I missed it, but I forgot just how much I enjoyed riding.
Que maldita alegría ver que el ícono, la figura, uno de los tres maestros, campeón, referente, bravísimo, titán, monstruo, capitán de de buque, tifón, tornado, dragón dorado, papá oso, viejo lobo, lomo de plata, piernas de V8, terror de las galletas y los suplementos veganos está de vuelta.
Otra motivación para algo que estaba pensando hacer de hace tiempo, volver al longtreking y llega está señal divina como cometa Halley.
Besitos caballero, espero poder ver pronto tu nueva serie, un abrazo desde Chile.
¡Jajaja!
¡muchas gracias! este es uno de los elogios más grandes en la memoria reciente. sí, por favor ve a hacer algunos viajes.
Now we need a collab pranayama
YOU ROCK! this was great!! we need more!
Love it Paul!!!❤️🙌
Glad I watched this, struggling to know if this is the right size for me. Thank you for the review, I'll have to see if I can try one somewhere... (Utah is mostly a barren wasteland when it comes to shops with longboard selections).
Super good info Paul! Need one in my life as I am only an occasional switcher of feet! Think there will be a few in nz as they are in a shop over here!!
You're Definitely a big fan of open tail 🤣
Can't wait for my board, was finally able to track one down! I have small feet (US woman 7.5) so probably this will be perfect!
Thanks for the message Denise. I'm excited for you!
I'll get back to your question on the other video in the next few days.
Really love your video style and fun personality!
I've been riding a TanTien for 10 years in LDP fashion and now one of my quads is bigger than the other 😅. Started researching a new boards a couple months ago and finally ordered the trip carbon from Jeff yesterday. Debated between it and the Quest but i had reservations after seeing comments about broken noses.
I'm super excited to do some proper long distance riding!
Thank you for your comment. Good choice on the trip.
I just cut the nose off my quest. It's a bit larger which is better for my larger feet.
I will do a follow-up video at some point.
The new trips are well made. Mine has put up with a lot of hard conditions.
Enjoy your new ride!
How are you liking it? I've also been riding a tan tien for over a decade now, just bought a new trip carbon!
@@mochee hey! It's a great board. It has a ton of stability and can handle anything. I ended up also getting a Pranayama later on, though, and I have to say that board fits me better. It doesn't handle high speeds as well, but it's a lot more lively at lower speeds. I'm glad I have both though, because my kid and I ride together.
Heya @Paul Kent, great video! Wondering why you chose to use the kegel 80mm orangatang wheels rather than the Caguama 85mm?
This is a really good question. The main reason is because the caguamas don't fit on my board. I also have a tendency to run smaller wheels than most because I train on lots of small but steep hills and I believe smaller lighter wheels are easier for steep climbing (I like to race bikes up hills). Kegels are also a bit less chattery if I need to slide. But my most recent trip, and during the ultra I might have had a slightly easier time with the larger caguamas.
I used to run 73mm wheels when racing others were riding 80's and 85's and I still managed pretty well. Iaintaimed the size I was used to training with so I would maintain more numeral muscular efficiency. That said, I have determined that wasn't the best call.
Does anybody know the raw weight of the Nexus board? Approx
If you want a longer deck Pantheon makes the Quest and the Nexus for full wood setups or Wiggler for those that want a long bracket deck.
Yes! Great advice Vik!
I am testing the nexus. Kinda. Not during my next skate trip.
The new ones are a bit stiff for most people. I think that might change for the next batch though.
And the grip tape is selected for downhilling, which is great, but maybe a tad too aggressive for most people looking at the trip. It's an easy and cheap enough fix though.
@@PaulKentSkates - The Quest is the same shape as the Nexus, but Trippy stiff for lighter folks and the Nexus is for heavier more DH oriented folks. 🙂
I am leaning towards the Quest Deck, would you see any cons to that preference compared to the Trip??? The Cork from Loaded is very enticing
I don't think it's a poor choice. I might prefer the extra inch of wheelbase length of the quest for my size feet tbh.
My biggest issue with the quest is the standard style drop through nose. If you lose the board it will mash the nose.
It will also be a little heavier, which probably only really matters for hill climbs.
The Quest should lend a slight bit more confidence for slightly more aggressive riding. That said my experience is super limited with the deck at this time. I feel bad taking too much stock from the manufacturers.
I feel I'd be better equipped to give you advice. If you tell me why it is, you feel you would prefer one board over the other
@@PaulKentSkates I have size 12 feet as well and the Trip has everything i'd need except for the smaller deck platform issue. If only Pantheon and Loaded collaborated on a 10" wide deck and long platform for feet size 12 and up. That would be awesome as a small batch item
I'm curious what you ended up doing and how it's going. I have been debating the same but ended up ordering the trip carbon (non colab). I had the same reservations of the quest that Paul has. I have size 11 so the size is less of a worry, though.
Hello, should i go for 165 mm or 180 mm trucks on this deck?
165mm for Orangatang or downhill inspired wheels.
150mm if you are running Pantheon wheels, 88 Mcflys, or siesmic speed vents
What on earth Paul lives in Calgary? Would have been cool to meet him when I lived there for the first 25 years of my life XD
Maybe he knows where Adam Colton went haha
Adam has gone mountain biking. I might try to get him out for a skate soon 🤫
🤙🏼⚡🤙🏼
What’s the best choice deck for me im 240 lbs and size 13 shoe.? I mean for commuting and occasional LDP.
I can't tell you what is best for you, but I can give some more insight that hopefully helps.
For commuting and pushing over distance this board should suffice. The official word is that this board will support people and equipment up to 300lbs with ease. It will be closer to a medium flex. For a stiffer board other manufacturers have good products. I'd look to drop decks by landyachtz or (a personal favorite of mine) Rayne. Rayne's current version of demonseed has a bit of a rocker these days. I personally don't like the rocker for pushing but some people do. Subsonic may be worth some research too. If you are interested in pumping, one of Pantheons hybrid pumpers may be better. If you have to deal with imperfect conditions, pavement, or hills, I'd go with a wooden double drop like the trip every time.
Hopefully that helps!
I'm at 255 and a 10 shoe. The board is surviving my weight, and I am used to wider boards but have adjusted quickly.
I asked Pantheon and they recommended the Quest and Nexus if I was worried about it, but that the Trip should hold me just fine. Just don't jump on it haha.
Hi Paul, what shoes do you recommend for pushing and why?
This depends.
When I skate around town or downhill I use vulcanized skate shoes. They are too heavy and not super ergonomic for long or fast skating.
When I do distance stuff, I definitely like very close to minimal shoes. I tend to use racing flats for racing, they are super light, and don't have huge heel raises are too much midsole support that can reduce board feel and balance.
I tend to wear Saucony because they fit my feet. My heel can be a tad narrow and I wear a size 12.5. so shoes that fit are rare. For my last tour I used the Saucony switchback, which is a minimalist trail runner, for my push races I've been using the Saucony A series shoes. I had tons of a4's, I loved the A8 and I have some A9's right now.
I want my shoes to be lightweight, have good board feel, and I want to have enough grip that my feet don't slip in the rain. Protection is nice but tertiary.
@@PaulKentSkates I'm currently using Airwalks which give a bit more support than Vans and wondered if normal trainers would be better for long distance skating but your saying for yourself that less is more? Interesting.
I am 65 though so maybe my feet need a bit more support. Haha :D
Thanks for taking the time to reply Paul, I appreciate it.
@@nyemartin5737
I would go with what you are comfortable with. I really appreciate having good road feel, and I find a thin running show is still softer on my feet than skate shoes.
That said a good skateshoe is probably really good in most situations.
I actually try to convince people to do foot workouts to help with support (look up short feet by dr. Emily Splichal)
But a pair of superfeet in some skate shoes has done me well. That's exactly what I did for Peru/Bolovia and Morocco.
Sperry
Would it be insane to get this for my 2 year olds birthday? Mainly looking at it due to how low it is and have big wheels to roll over things. He is VERY good at riding a 3 wheeled scooter, so looking to upgrade him to a board
2 years old turning3?
Not crazy no. But a personal question that I can completely answer. It depends on your son's abilities and what you are comfortable getting for him. I won't say there isn't risk that your son will enjoy it.
Most people start with something like a Dinghy my son has a bolona. But it can be quite a large step up. As far as dropped boards go this on is one of the smallest. Almost as small as the grom race from landyachtz was. And it's very lightweight for a drop board too. But not light like a mini cruiser board. It will feel safer for him so that's a big pro.
When kids are young, a lower board is easier to push for sure. But there will be less leverage on the bushings with a dropped board. Even a set of 60a bushing will seem a little firm. I do know 7 year olds that like using mine with 80a bushings, so it's not terrible for young kids. (Riptide makes 60a bushings I would get their 60a APS conical). On top of that this board is still fairly wide for a little guy.
I do think it will be way easier then a board of comparable size that isn't dropped. This will be more stable too. But you'll need super soft bushings because there is no way your son will be able to do kick-turns.
Yeah ultimately the biggest thing is that it's expensive for some people, especially when you don't know a child's interest. But if you are okay with that it is probably the safest board to learn on. And they will be better at pushing it.
I think you can get bolt on scooter handles for skateboards too.
I am planning on making a video for parents of young kids about boards to consider and set ups.
There is a real lack of child appropriate gear. I want to do something about that.
I'd say it's better than anything else in a similar width for pushing along. And it will be much more confidence inspiring than a top mount board with smaller wheels. But for full maneuverability, kick tails, though tricky at first, are really nice for kids.
Oh, the caguamas might be a bit large. I'd probably run 75mm durians with the 165mm Paris trucks, riptide 60a conical bushings. It will be lower still and much lighter.
@@PaulKentSkates awesome response, thank you for the thoughts and details. I ended up ordering a Pantheon Pranayama just because it's slightly lower than the Trip, with Paris street 149mm trucks and 85mm Seismic speedvents. I will probably order a set of those Durians too. If he ends up not liking it I can use the board myself haha. But he is obsessed with my electric longboard so I think he will like it. I was actually looking at the Ballona at first as well. I still may end up getting him one of those too so he can have a kick tail board to use. My main concern was getting whatever was as low as possible so he feels comfortable getting on and off. I will push him around if I need to, to get him more acquainted with the board.
I'll have to check online for those scooter handles, that sounds like a cool idea. You're right, I wish there were better options aimed directly at kids.
@@mitsuracer87 I wrote that you should check out the pranayama, but then erased it because I didn't want to get into the weeds about trucks and I don't have first hand experience with it so I am not confident in my assertions about it. But do think it's a really good choice. I believe (don't quote me on this) it is a bit more maneuverable somehow, just less good at speed (not a concern for such a young child) You'll still need soft bushings. The bolona will be featured in my kids video. I think it's a fun cruiser for grown-ups. But it has a shape that would lend very well for young kids to do freeride, and basic skateboard tricks.
The shape is super cool.
Best of luck!
Hey Paul. Firstly, I watch Long Treks Morocco/Peru on constant loop on the TV and my family thinks I need professional help. The best scene was when you were talking about how malnourished you were after eating cookies for a week straight as you were about to eat a fish. Also when you guys came upon M'Diq.
Secondly, what's your reason for running your Kegels flipped? Is it a hanger width thing? Why not narrower hangers and unflipped Kegels? Can you persuade Orangatang to make a cut-down versions of their Cags/Kegs, cuz that would be diggity.
Thirdly, you're my hero.
Thank you Jim! I appreciate the attempts to indoctrinate your entire family!
I flip my wheels just to fit the hangars, but I'd rather not have to when riding on windy downhills. I am really picky about my truck geometry and I use Aeras for the "inward rake" and to ride 47/38 I also have a set of ultra light k4's.
I want the outside edge of the wheel to protrude less than 5mm to prevent running over my foot when I start getting loopy. I used to use centerset wheels in competition but the kegels are faster and far more comfy than my old baluts. I have trimmed my kegels in the past (you can see my front wheels are narrower, it would be nice if Orangatang would trim them. I'll keep bugging them. Who knows.
Update! I got new area trucks that fit perfectly with my weird setup.
I just bought this as my first board today. However, I wonder how do I do those simple tricks with such short nose…..
The balance point is tricky. It helps to have lower angle baseplates, and to have some grip tape at the edge of the trucks. You need to be on the very edge of the truck. Practice dealing with your foot slipping off the rear. It will happen. Try to make it into a foot brake instead of a pulled groin ;)
@@PaulKentSkates yes sir
Awesome Paul! I really appreciate your video. It comes exactly one day before the LOADED X PANTHEON COLLAB TRIP is officially released. I have started practicing longboard 4 years ago and used the mongo technique most of the time, pushing with my left leg and maintaining my right leg in a mongo style. I'm not really switching even if I am ready to push reverse as I feel I am very stable with this special stance (mongo). I am 43/44 EUR in shoe size (11 US) and I was about to consider buying a loaded TAN TIEN mainly for pushing and freeriding but not doing so much fancy FREESTYLE and surely not PUMPING as I'm not really into it bur I like quick turns and CARVING... I'm very much into long DISTANCE PUSHING since I'm regularly riding in Marrakech, Morocco between the road, the streets, the malls and the sidewalks (which ar usually very damaged) and most often with a non-symetrical regular board between 30'' and 34'' in length and 70mm to 75mm wheels with 78a durometer. I usually consider 10km to 30km per ride and riding 4/5 times a week day and night (each ride is between 1h30 and 4/5hours in duration). Paul - Do you feel that I shall aim for the LOADED PANTHEON TRIP COLLAB instead of the LOADD TAN TIEN for my special way of riding? Would it be a better choice for me?
I actually have skated around Marrakech! I have visited more than once and used a skateboard to get around. (I have skated around almost the entire country, some of the footage in my about me section is from Morocco.)
I think the trip is a better way to get around. That said the tan Tien still has a short nose and tail. They are small, but you can do a few moves to make getting up a curbs more fun. And you can do kick turns. I have been using different trucks that place the wheels closer to the standing platform and that does allow me to use my nose and tail on my Trip to do kick turns and to pop the board into my hands. Unfortunately this is very difficult with the Paris trucks. If you want to use kick tails to turn, to manual your front wheels over pot holes, or to drop off of curbs the tan Tien is better.
For security the trip is ideal. For a faster easier push with less chance of injury the trip is better. But for ultimate maneuverabilty the tan Tien is a bit better.
One more thing to consider, is that the loaded version of the trip is a limited edition. Once they run out you can still get the trip, but this version with the cork is only available for a short while. Maybe only the spring. (I'm hoping the doake a second batch before the discontinue, but no talk of that yet that I am aware of).
I prefer the trip. For getting around fast and more comfortably and the tan Tien for negotiating obstacles. Like really high curbs or concrete/stone barriers.
Either way I think you will enjoy either board.
I might start uploading videos for how to negotiate obstacles around town for efficient travel in cities.
If you have more questions feel free to message me. I am @paskapookid on Instagram.
Good luck on your choice.
One more thing. The tan tien will be harder to push over potholes than the trip.
I skated around Morocco on a long treks demonseed. Which was one of the inspirations for the trip.
Is this board good for just crusing
It is super good for cruising especially because it allows for an ergonomic push and it being low allows for a better stride and easier balance for foot braking.
My only complaint with it would be no kicktails, which I like in a cruiser.
But that aside this thing is probably the most comfortable thing for getting around. It is nimble due to its wheelbase. Just no kick turns or Ollie's.
It's carve is nice, a bit more snowboard like than a usual skateboard.
It won't grip in tight carves as well as a top mount. But it's less grabby with the ground so it breaks away smoothly giving you time to react if you carve too hard.
@@PaulKentSkates I was thinking about it until I saw the price I'm like 300 is to much I'm looking for something 200 to 250 dollars
May I ask what your appeal with the K4s are with distance pushing?
I'll explain it in a video at some point, but the Aeras when the axles are set inwards pressure the rider earlier in a turn (or more importantly for me during a moment where my balance may not be optimal during the top of the knee thrust or during the extension of my push).
This increases stability and the likelyhood that I will make a mistake and fall even if I use an unstable (but incredibly efficient and fast) technique.
This is actually very similar to how a wider rear tire pressures a motorcycle rider when entering a turn.
I also don't find myself in many situations where I don't encounter fast hills during my pushes. I also believe more push races need hills with technical problems. The rogue race and the whistler push races were my favorites for this. The Aeras are very good for that keeping me comfortable when speeding into a corner.
The final reason is because of the surfy feel I get from them. They are more enjoyable for me to ride than most other trucks. I have never liked them.
My Aeras are ridiculously lightweight although admittedly they are about 6-10 mm too wide. But if I flip the wheels they are perfect.
I should point out that they are technically not k4's, rather they are a prototype for the k4, that were designed to be super light (for destruction testing) 3 sets were made and only one (mine) hasn't been broken.
Oh one more point, but on a drop board, I believe they have more traction in a fast corner than trucks with non inward set axles.
I hope this helps explain my choice.
I love you
I miss you!
@@PaulKentSkates I'll race you on my Pranayama and take 2nd ez
@@PaulKentSkates Hope to see you sometime again soon, hit us up when you're back home visiting!
Just got this board disappointed
That sucks. Did my video sway you to get the deck? If so I apologize. May I ask what things disappoint you about it? Is it too short? Is it the concave? Is the deck too low (which makes it slide and corner different than less low decks). I'm curious to know for my ability to I prove my own recommendations for people moving forward. And heck maybe I can help advise you on your setup.
If it's really not your bag, the good news is you can probably sell it. There are people that still want this board and it seems to be sold out everywhere I know of.