I just purchased the FN 509 Tactical and did an exhaustive search for a holster and am so glad to come across your review of Tier 1. I am purchasing this holster because of your review which was very clear and concise with no BS fluff. Thanks for the information!!!!
William Taylor. Thanks man. That's the reason I put this holster up as soon as I did after receiving it. In my standard fashion, I like to have things for a while before I give my opinion on it. But with this being my 4th holster purchase from Tier 1 Concealed, I already knew that the quality wasn't going to be anything to worry about, so I wanted to get it out there for more people to see how their mechanism worked
@@sulivanmagnum OK thank you. I have a weapon light on my 509 but recently purchased a 502. FN told me that they are the same size so holsters should be interchangeable. It would be nice to train with my 22 and not have to buy a TLR7 a for $130. I know Daras retention is purely on the flashlight, with only 2 retention tightening screws. It seems like the holsters with more screws will actually retain a firearm without the flashlight. T1 Concealment is on of my only options at this point. Otherwise I could purchase the qd mount and order 2 separate holsters..
Good review. I recently picked one up and it looks like they changed the release mechanism. Just push it backwards now. And one thing that did surprise me, like you mentioned, is how much more wider it is than the safariland 6354do.
I have played with a spetzgear holster that has the same mech for thumb release, and it could be/ most likely is a training issue, but I still prefer this mechanism over the newer one they utilize. Where it is wider and sits farther from the body, it is great for drawing when wearing armor with side armor and/or pouches. Whats your opinion of the holster so far, and what pew did you get it for?
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 yeah, I could see where the wider and just push inward could be easier/smoother. I bought it for the x300 and Zev oz9. You could use a 17,19, etc as well. Overall I like it. Once you get some reps in its smooth. They make good holsters. I too have had their holsters since the agis leather snap days. I'll probably be ordering a axis slim for the OZ9.
@@rhodey2952 glad you like it. This is my 3rd holster from them, but my first owb from them. I looking to get the surefire xsc for the p365 for the wife, so ill have to replace the current xiphos.
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 If you weren’t aware, Streamlight is releasing the TLR-7sub. It’s 500 lumens and 5,000 candela vs the Surefire’s 300 lumens and 2,000 candela. Also costs half as much for twice the light output. Worth looking at for the P365/365XL.
@@sethrich5998 i am aware of that, but you are comparing the xsc (gross) to anything streamlight (yuck) when what i run is the x300u (1000 lumens, 16,500 candella) homework boys. Homework.
Been looking for a 6354DO for my roland special. I have one for my PMM P320, they work tremendously. I ordered a centurion for my G34. Your video just makes me even more excited to look forward to it. 🤙🤙
I’m a huge fan of Tier1 Concealed. I already have their Axis Elite appendix holster along with several of their morale patches and apparel. I just ordered the Centurion holster for my Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS with a Streamlight TLR-8AG. I also got the Safariland plate and fork along with the SAFARILAND SINGLE STRAP LEG SHROUD W/ DFA. Hopefully everything flows well with my Kore Essentials battle belt and Scorpion G-Code soft shell mag pouches. Luckily the holster will also work with the Gen 5 Glock 17/19X/44/45…, I’m still not sure what my next Glock will be. I’m leaning more towards the 19X or 45 MOS. Love the Gen 5s since I’m left handed.
It looks like you have an older thumb break. I have a newer one, and the break rocks backwards instead of pushing down. Makes it a less consistent draw. I somewhat regularly fail to break it, and hit the hood.
@@Mobius762x51 nothing to report thus far. With the ammo shortage, I have been more conservative with how much I have been shooting, but I still get in tons of dry reps at home (more than what I would on a normal range day) and between the glock 19 and 509T, nothing whatsoever. Haven't even needed to tighten the retention screws.
I opted for the thicker kydex because of it being an outside the waistband holster. Additionally, I have warped a bravo concealment holster with the thinner kydex due to excess barrel/slide heat and then doing a one hand manipulation drill off of it. I wouldn't change anything about the configuration I have this holster in.
If you haven’t ordered yet or for anyone else wondering definitely get the thicker kydex. It’s not a concealment holster so the thickness won’t matter there, what you get is a much more rigid holster, better protection, and more consistent draw. There is no downside. For USPSA most of us are running even thicker double layer 0.093 (0.186 total) holsters as standard, they move around on your belt way less.
I'm looking to get this and hope it can work with a compensator! I'll be calling tomorrow to check. Maybe a dremel or file would do the trick? What do you think?
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 I just emailed the company and they said, "As long as you indicate you have a comp in the order notes, that will work with all of our holsters." Sounds just vague enough that I'm skeptical but here's to hoping lol
I have no experience with Dara, but I can guarantee that T1C make their holsters for good duty/combative applications. I believe they both use the same thumb release systems now.
A $30 lavalier mic will do wonders. The audio will be better than your camera/phone and it'll be easier to center the sound between left and right. Other than that, great video.
hey man, did you over build yours? Upgrade to Premium Kydex+? Thicker Material? Buy Support Piece? Im looking at buying now and would appreciate your input. thank you!
I did. Sorry for the late response..I upgraded to the thicker kydex, but there wasn't an option for the support piece at the time of my purchase, as it was newly released when I bought it.
i just got mine today. The black hood strap on mine has a lot of play in it. when i took it down to retighten, it may appear the hole for the screw is cut to big. are you experiencing the hood getting loose after mild usage? have you taken that portion down?
I have not taken it down. It came with locktight from t1c on that screw. There is a lot of back and forth play in the outside portion of the holster, but the screw is solid and I think is cut that wide so that it can perform in the manner that it does.
It's the blue alpha gear belt. Another alternative that is compatible would be the Ronin Tactics Senshi. They are bothe equal in my eyes as far as outer belts, the the blue alpha gear inner belt is the better one in my opinion.
Nice. I just ordered an Optio and emailed them and asked to change it to a Centurion. They were super nice and said they could upgrade it for the price difference, no worries. I waited like 3 days to ask. Super excited to see it when it comes in.
Just picked one up. It’s very tight on the pistol and some of the kydex is scraping off where the slide rubs. Did you have this issue with your 509? Is this a normal break in scenario?
That is normal for most all kydex holsters that don't have "click" retention where it indexes around the trigger guard, thus allowing it to be a little more loose around the slide portion of the firearm. Also, guns with forward slide serrations will wear down the material as well, however it is just a break in period. Before you locktite any of the screws, I would recommend drawing as many times as possible, to wear in the kydex where marring patterns are beginning and then adjust your retention as needed when the loctite is applied.
Thanks for the feed back. This is my first no-click holster and it seemed like too much of a struggle to draw the pistol to the point I was lifting my pants up. I’ll give it some time. Thanks again and keep up the quality content!
@@adamgooch7422 keep in mind all the screws along the edge as well as near the trigger guard are for adjustable retention. Play with those and dial in your intended draw stroke.
I cant out draw the speed of the hood moving forward, however if you don't actuate the system before drawing upwards, the rear of the slide will come into contact with the hood and will not move forward until the gun is pushed back down into the holster.
@@isaacragsdale999 yes you can draw without the hood smoothly. It is just like a kydex holster where you can adjust retention to your desired fit/ tension
Ok awesome thanks! I was just confused on the part when you said you have to puch it back in before you can draw if you don't activate the hood. But I think I understand now. Thank you again. I just bought one!
Still going strong! From what I have seen, they have updated their hood closure, but mine being the original still performs as well as the day I got it.
Absolutely. At first, there was a huge learning curve. By at first, I literally mean one day. I did a ton of dry fire my first night recieving it, and since then, it has become second nature. With a glock 19 in this holster, since it was made for a 509 T, I do find myself hanging up on it more frequently because there is a few less millimeters of clearance between the hood assembly and the striker plate on the glock than that of the 509. This was as much of a learning curve compared to my experience of switching from a level 1 holster (friction fit kydex only), to the Safariland ALS system - a "level 2" holster (has a secondary locking system, even though, other than gravity in an upright position, the Safariland 6354DO doesn't have another securing mecanism/feature). That to me is where this holster really shines. Plus it looks damn good.
I've been looking for a review on this holster for forever. Thank you!
Worth every penny so far! Time will tell but T1C products haven't failed me yet.
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 I have their axis slim. Very happy with it.
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 how long did it take go get use to the thumb release
@@1776A after little repetition it wasn't to difficult. But that was coming from using a safariland 6354 DO so it was a little bit of a transition.
Ty very much 💪🏽 awesome details I needed for my new 509. I love Fabrique Nationale Herstal 5.7x28mm too
I just purchased the FN 509 Tactical and did an exhaustive search for a holster and am so glad to come across your review of Tier 1. I am purchasing this holster because of your review which was very clear and concise with no BS fluff. Thanks for the information!!!!
Happy I could help. Good call on your purchase of the 509. Safariland now makes a holster for the 509 as well.
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 Can I ask which safariland holster works for the 509t? Have you tried it and how does it compare to the T1?
FINALLY a review on this holster!
I've been looking for one for forever! I've even been nagging their facebook profile to make a video on it, lol.
William Taylor. Thanks man. That's the reason I put this holster up as soon as I did after receiving it. In my standard fashion, I like to have things for a while before I give my opinion on it. But with this being my 4th holster purchase from Tier 1 Concealed, I already knew that the quality wasn't going to be anything to worry about, so I wanted to get it out there for more people to see how their mechanism worked
Thank you for not wasting my time clearing your gun. I could care less if the gun goes bang as it will not harm the viewers.
Thanks man this really helped me make a decision. I was looking for all the same things.
This review was a god send! Thank you.
Great info. I watched over and over but did not catch the name of the quick locking system. Thanks for the video. I'll now go with the Tier 1.
As far as I know, they haven't secured a patent on their locking system but also I dont think they have a name for it.
Thanks for the review. I just ordered one. Couldn't completely get away from Safariland though. Ordered it with the QLS system.
I agree. I still love safariland and their products, I just happen to like everything about the centurion and what it offers me.
Absolute godsend. Ordering for my P01 + TLR-7A. Thanks!
Did you ever get a holster w/flashlight?, My question is, does the holster retain the firearm with the flashlight uninstalled?
@@d1ndark25 yes, though I don't run it as often owb. It doesn't really retain iirc, all wml holsters index on the light
@@sulivanmagnum OK thank you. I have a weapon light on my 509 but recently purchased a 502. FN told me that they are the same size so holsters should be interchangeable. It would be nice to train with my 22 and not have to buy a TLR7 a for $130. I know Daras retention is purely on the flashlight, with only 2 retention tightening screws. It seems like the holsters with more screws will actually retain a firearm without the flashlight. T1 Concealment is on of my only options at this point. Otherwise I could purchase the qd mount and order 2 separate holsters..
Can you do a new review on the Tier 1 OWB MORA?
Good review. I recently picked one up and it looks like they changed the release mechanism. Just push it backwards now.
And one thing that did surprise me, like you mentioned, is how much more wider it is than the safariland 6354do.
I have played with a spetzgear holster that has the same mech for thumb release, and it could be/ most likely is a training issue, but I still prefer this mechanism over the newer one they utilize.
Where it is wider and sits farther from the body, it is great for drawing when wearing armor with side armor and/or pouches.
Whats your opinion of the holster so far, and what pew did you get it for?
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 yeah, I could see where the wider and just push inward could be easier/smoother.
I bought it for the x300 and Zev oz9. You could use a 17,19, etc as well. Overall I like it. Once you get some reps in its smooth.
They make good holsters. I too have had their holsters since the agis leather snap days. I'll probably be ordering a axis slim for the OZ9.
@@rhodey2952 glad you like it. This is my 3rd holster from them, but my first owb from them. I looking to get the surefire xsc for the p365 for the wife, so ill have to replace the current xiphos.
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 If you weren’t aware, Streamlight is releasing the TLR-7sub. It’s 500 lumens and 5,000 candela vs the Surefire’s 300 lumens and 2,000 candela. Also costs half as much for twice the light output. Worth looking at for the P365/365XL.
@@sethrich5998 i am aware of that, but you are comparing the xsc (gross) to anything streamlight (yuck) when what i run is the x300u (1000 lumens, 16,500 candella) homework boys. Homework.
Been looking for a 6354DO for my roland special. I have one for my PMM P320, they work tremendously. I ordered a centurion for my G34. Your video just makes me even more excited to look forward to it. 🤙🤙
If safariland made an ALS holster for the 509, I would have been all over it!
I’m a huge fan of Tier1 Concealed. I already have their Axis Elite appendix holster along with several of their morale patches and apparel. I just ordered the Centurion holster for my Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS with a Streamlight TLR-8AG. I also got the Safariland plate and fork along with the SAFARILAND SINGLE STRAP LEG SHROUD W/ DFA. Hopefully everything flows well with my Kore Essentials battle belt and Scorpion G-Code soft shell mag pouches. Luckily the holster will also work with the Gen 5 Glock 17/19X/44/45…, I’m still not sure what my next Glock will be. I’m leaning more towards the 19X or 45 MOS. Love the Gen 5s since I’m left handed.
Thanks for making this.
Excellent video. Thanks.
Kind of wish I saw this before I ordered a T-Rex Ragnarok (not a bad holster at all, but no retention).
I had the trex arms ragnarok as well when I had the inforce aplc but got a better flashlight and upgraded the holster as well.
It looks like you have an older thumb break. I have a newer one, and the break rocks backwards instead of pushing down. Makes it a less consistent draw. I somewhat regularly fail to break it, and hit the hood.
Without the hood, is the pistol retained just with friction or is there another mechanism holding it in?
Great, detailed video! Thanks!
No, it is just friction as the secondary retention.
Hi man, did the open bottom in the holster for the barrel came like this by default? or did you had to make a special request for it to be so?
Website shows options for CZ p-09... nice!
I know this is a bit older of a video but, do you happen to know if the 509 centurion would fit a fns9 compact?
Great review.
New sub... great content and fast trigger finger man
Haha that is the fostech echo trigger. I can't shoot semi auto that quick. 😆
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 wish I lived in a free state
I feel for ya man... it doesn't seem it's gonna get anymore free anytime soon..
Still Impressed by the gun!
Great review, thanks
great video, thank you
Part two update????
What else would you like to know?
Have there been any problems with the holster since this video?
Is there any major wear and tear from constant usage?
@@Mobius762x51 nothing to report thus far. With the ammo shortage, I have been more conservative with how much I have been shooting, but I still get in tons of dry reps at home (more than what I would on a normal range day) and between the glock 19 and 509T, nothing whatsoever. Haven't even needed to tighten the retention screws.
Thanks for the review. Do you get their standard kydex or the .125' kydex? Any recomendations?
I opted for the thicker kydex because of it being an outside the waistband holster. Additionally, I have warped a bravo concealment holster with the thinner kydex due to excess barrel/slide heat and then doing a one hand manipulation drill off of it. I wouldn't change anything about the configuration I have this holster in.
If you haven’t ordered yet or for anyone else wondering definitely get the thicker kydex. It’s not a concealment holster so the thickness won’t matter there, what you get is a much more rigid holster, better protection, and more consistent draw. There is no downside. For USPSA most of us are running even thicker double layer 0.093 (0.186 total) holsters as standard, they move around on your belt way less.
I'm looking to get this and hope it can work with a compensator! I'll be calling tomorrow to check. Maybe a dremel or file would do the trick? What do you think?
That's what I've been looking at doing. It would be nice if they offered an option for a comp.
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 I just emailed the company and they said, "As long as you indicate you have a comp in the order notes, that will work with all of our holsters."
Sounds just vague enough that I'm skeptical but here's to hoping lol
@@ColtenHood just from what I come to expect from them, I trust their judgement.
Do you recommend the Tier 1 over Dara Holster for 509T?
I have no experience with Dara, but I can guarantee that T1C make their holsters for good duty/combative applications. I believe they both use the same thumb release systems now.
A $30 lavalier mic will do wonders. The audio will be better than your camera/phone and it'll be easier to center the sound between left and right. Other than that, great video.
Thanks for the input. If I ever plan on doing reviews more regularly, I will look into that.
What belt are you using?
hey man, did you over build yours? Upgrade to Premium Kydex+? Thicker Material? Buy Support Piece? Im looking at buying now and would appreciate your input. thank you!
I did. Sorry for the late response..I upgraded to the thicker kydex, but there wasn't an option for the support piece at the time of my purchase, as it was newly released when I bought it.
I have a 509 tactical compact, do u think the compact with work with that holster? They only offer a full size 509 holster
I'm sure it would
What type of mounting system are you using with the tier one. QLS, with or without plate? G-code?
I stick with the safari land qls as I have it on 2 of my belts and prefer it to the gcode
Great video.
i just got mine today. The black hood strap on mine has a lot of play in it. when i took it down to retighten, it may appear the hole for the screw is cut to big. are you experiencing the hood getting loose after mild usage? have you taken that portion down?
I have not taken it down. It came with locktight from t1c on that screw. There is a lot of back and forth play in the outside portion of the holster, but the screw is solid and I think is cut that wide so that it can perform in the manner that it does.
How much for the safariland? lol looking at centurion for 509 t as well but also interested in your safariland for my glock lol
I'd come off it for $50 with the safariland fork as well. It doesn't have the bottom covering however.
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 Sorry for late response, whats your insta I will DM you on there
I'm sorry, but it has already been purchased. I've been cleaning house lately.
What belt do you run with that?
It's the blue alpha gear belt. Another alternative that is compatible would be the Ronin Tactics Senshi. They are bothe equal in my eyes as far as outer belts, the the blue alpha gear inner belt is the better one in my opinion.
Nice. I just ordered an Optio and emailed them and asked to change it to a Centurion. They were super nice and said they could upgrade it for the price difference, no worries. I waited like 3 days to ask. Super excited to see it when it comes in.
Just picked one up. It’s very tight on the pistol and some of the kydex is scraping off where the slide rubs. Did you have this issue with your 509? Is this a normal break in scenario?
That is normal for most all kydex holsters that don't have "click" retention where it indexes around the trigger guard, thus allowing it to be a little more loose around the slide portion of the firearm. Also, guns with forward slide serrations will wear down the material as well, however it is just a break in period. Before you locktite any of the screws, I would recommend drawing as many times as possible, to wear in the kydex where marring patterns are beginning and then adjust your retention as needed when the loctite is applied.
Thanks for the feed back. This is my first no-click holster and it seemed like too much of a struggle to draw the pistol to the point I was lifting my pants up. I’ll give it some time. Thanks again and keep up the quality content!
@@adamgooch7422 keep in mind all the screws along the edge as well as near the trigger guard are for adjustable retention. Play with those and dial in your intended draw stroke.
Will the holster still have retention on the gun without the light attached?
Yes. I meant to touch on that. It is more difficult to re holster and the retention screws may need to be tightened down a little more.
Will that fit a fn 509 compact ?
Yes it will, but I would imagine they would make a specific model for that as well
Does the FN 509 tactical fit in the safariland 6354do?
@Andrew Perez
No it doesn't. The slide height of the 509 is higher than a glocks, as well the trigger guard being larger.
Thank you just canceled my order.
Do you ever draw faster than the hood can move out of the way? Thanks for the review.
I cant out draw the speed of the hood moving forward, however if you don't actuate the system before drawing upwards, the rear of the slide will come into contact with the hood and will not move forward until the gun is pushed back down into the holster.
@@gunsgearcoffee5322 ok thanks. Can you draw without the use of the hood, Smoothly? or do you have to activate the hood each time?
@@isaacragsdale999 yes you can draw without the hood smoothly. It is just like a kydex holster where you can adjust retention to your desired fit/ tension
Ok awesome thanks! I was just confused on the part when you said you have to puch it back in before you can draw if you don't activate the hood. But I think I understand now. Thank you again. I just bought one!
@@isaacragsdale999 good deal man! What model handgun did you get it for? You will love it, and it will become very intuitive with some practice.
How’s it held up? I’m looking at holsters like this.
Still going strong! From what I have seen, they have updated their hood closure, but mine being the original still performs as well as the day I got it.
Yo all take the safari?
Safariland is long gone.
This name of his Channel is dope 😂😂😂
Have you ever outdrawn the thumb break?
Absolutely. At first, there was a huge learning curve. By at first, I literally mean one day. I did a ton of dry fire my first night recieving it, and since then, it has become second nature. With a glock 19 in this holster, since it was made for a 509 T, I do find myself hanging up on it more frequently because there is a few less millimeters of clearance between the hood assembly and the striker plate on the glock than that of the 509.
This was as much of a learning curve compared to my experience of switching from a level 1 holster (friction fit kydex only), to the Safariland ALS system - a "level 2" holster (has a secondary locking system, even though, other than gravity in an upright position, the Safariland 6354DO doesn't have another securing mecanism/feature). That to me is where this holster really shines. Plus it looks damn good.
What light is that on the 509?
It is a Surefire X300U
That poor GL19😂