Umarex BRODAX .177 Cal Co2 BB Pistol, 1st Look & Testing w/Pellets
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- *Update 9/30/22*
The Colt Rotary Pellet Metal Magazines, Fit 357 Python CO2 Pellet/BB Revolvers, 3pk I originally got at www.pyramydair... are no longer available. I do not have another source, sorry.
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This is my first look at my new Umarex Brodax .177 cal Co2 air pistol. The video will show a mixed bag of good and not so good (pellet wise, oops spoiler) as this first time I'm shooting it even though I bought it several months back. It's a very cool and futuristic looking air pistol, and feels solid and nice quality for less than $40.00 typically. It shot very accurately with bb's and I even tried shooting it with pellets using Umarex Python metal rotary mags. The pellets didn't shoot all that well accuracy wise, but some lightweight alloy ones really screamed out of it at 488 FPS average, with several shots over 500 fps!. I give chrony info on bb's and a couple different pellet weights also in the vid. Also, this particular Brodax shot hotter than the 375 fps rating on the package. The video is a bit long but it has some good information and I hope you enjoy it!
Just got it and didn't know if pellets would work with it , thank you so much for this video
You’re welcome
I have the same gun. And i took 2 of the clips and use a 3 16 drill bit and drill out the clips and now I can shoot pellets out of the gun @VipersVideos
Use a 3 q6 drill bit and drill out the clips and then you can shoot pellets
Just bought this.
I haven't had a bb gun in years, and it looks like i made a smart move.
Best of health to you and your family.
🥃🏴
Sans any issues, I still think this is the best bargain going for a very affordable well made, reliable, accurate, just fun and cool looking bb revolver there is. Thanks for the comment and well wish, and the same to you and yours!
you get 460 fps. after 300rds. break in . with Black Diamond BB's
Steel BBs are around 4.4mm diameter, whereas pellets are around 4.5mm. I have tried 4.5mm lead balls (H&N sell lead ball ammo in multiple diameters) in BB gun (smooth bore) barrels. Accuracy was much better than with steel BBs and lead pellets, and muzzle energy was also at least 20% higher, probably due to their tighter fit in the barrel (less blow-by) and the fact that heavier projectiles, while slower than light BBs, exploit the available gas pressure more efficiently.
Makes sense. I have also used 4.5mm lead balls by Gamo for my P-23 that actually came with it as recommended ammo. They were indeed 4.5mm and weighed 8.17 gr. That may prove to possibly be the ideal ammo for the Brodax as well for reasons you just stated. I'll have to try that this summer, as it's currently -9 deg F here currently.
Thanks for the comment and info. Good stuff!
@@VipersVideos Your accuracy with those black steel BBs of yours was very impressive. Makes me wonder if it has a tighter bore than most. I ordered the same pistol (it is called Tornado here in Europe) which is due to arrive today. I will let you know how it performs with various types of round ammo. -9F! And I thought it was cold here in France...
@@Ijusthopeitsquick Yeah, those Hornady Black Diamond BBs are not the largest dia. so you may be right about the Brodax/Tornado having a tighter bore than many others. Good luck with your Tornado, and stay warm. We've had a horrendous stretch of below zero F days this winter here in Minnesota this winter... ugh...
Just finished putting some black Diamonds thru mine. I really like this gun! Put a similar red dot on it and hits dead on the dot! I found a solution for our stigmatism. I put a sticker with a small peep hole over the lense of my shooting Google and no more jagged red dot!
Yep, a real good shooter for the money. I'll have to try the peep hole trick when ever we see warm weather here again, thanks!
Well done informative insight on this underrated durable revolver
Yes indeed it's a well made cool looking bargain priced gem to be sure.
Just wanted to tell you, in case you're unaware, that ASG Blaster makes, what is essentially, a .177 caliber plastic airsoft bb. They only weigh .17 g and fly out of a gun like this or the Colt Python that Umarex makes. They are a little pricey and were once only sold in the UK, but now they are on Amazon. I shoot them all the time and they can be reused. I typically set up a line of ten of those little Dixie Cups that you drink mouth wash from and shoot them down at 8 or 9 yards. Because they have so little mass, the pellets won't penetrate a light fleece blanket used as a back stop, in spite of screaming out of the gun. Form up the bottom of the blanket into a funnel shape and they drop into a cardboard box to be reused. This can be done right inside the living room or rec room with little risk of damage, even if a bad miss caused a ricochet. It's action shooting at its best with no mess to deal with. You should try it. Set up two rows of cups and lend a buddy a one of these inexpensive guns and you've got a real shootin' match to see who clears the most cups fastest with one cylinder of BBs.
I was aware of them but also unaware they are now sold on Amazon. I'll have to look into trying them out. Thanks!
Update on bb's
use Daisy Match grade bb's they are slightly bigger and you get 420/440 fps. from the Brodax
Cool info! I'll pick some up next time I see them or order some from PA when I get a chance, thanks!
You didn't mention the rails on top and bottom for accessories like a light or red dot. It's highly accurate and you can take fluorescent green paint and a toothpick and hit the two dots on the back sight and one dot on the front sight. It's rated at up to 375 FPS on the packaging but mines is at least 100 more. There are several things you can do to increase it... dieseling, hammer file, extender, not rapid succession, fresh, warm ambient temperature for CO2, not leaving CO2 in (unless redo seals once in a while) and barrel replacement kept cleaned and perfectly oiled.. You can also buy an 8 magazine for pellets. I consider this a great Self Defense tool as if you actually learn how to use and care for it, because I wouldn't want to get hit in the face with 8 arrow-pointed pellets at over 500 FPS! That's what this gun has the potential of. Also if you pour the BB's in a little bowl or even in your hand you can just rub the magazine can usually all the BBs go right in. Much faster.
I guess I didn't, but I at least mentioned adding a red dot. You've mentioned it now and a lot more information as well. Thanks for the comment and additional information!
Good info thank you. And agree. I acually learned sorta the hard way that in my county at least you have to have a concealed weapons permit to have one of these legally, I had no idea and I guess kind of understand. My ex has been stalking me and doing so in a very scary manner like hiding in my backyard and sitting under my windows at night watching me. One night ide forgotten to turn my garden hose off by my bedroom window and went out there to turn it off...and as I reached down to turn off my hose I saw him from corner of my eye crouched down behind a bush in a corner, definitely hadn't expected ide be coming outside at 2am I guess. He scared the shit outa me and he started laughing I ran back into the house and grabbed this co2 gun I had right by the door and came back out and he started to approach me almost laughing thinking it was funny...i was in like serious fight or flight mode in shock and adrenaline racing, i unloaded on him as he started walking towards me and shot him as he was trying to get away and hide while calling me a crazy b*tch...I couldn't believe he thought me catching him trespassing into my backyard at 2am and stalking me was funny. I was so traumatized from it I was shaking the while rest of the night. He called cops on me and told them I shot him with a real gun,lol, he totally thought it was a real gun...he'd of been dead duh if it had been, such an idiot. But he did show me the welts from the pellets and 5yrs later he still has a good 7 scars on his chest and arms. This gun does have great accuracy and well the scars tell ya. I almost got arrested though even though it was just an airgun. I had to explain that he'd done this stalking thing for a while and he's made me fearful for my life many times and he's unpredictable cus he's lost his mind and thinks carzy things that make no sense and is definitely on drugs. So they sorta just did a warning with me told me to just go get the permit, and to call them before i shoot him. And always report him when I see him anywhere near me or my home to prevent him from getting that far. The law is here you can only use nessesary force if you feel or believe your life is being threatened. And most importantly, you have to get the permit to have a co2 gun. Ide caught him 2 other times after that and both he acquired multiple more scars...but if it was anyone else who's not high on drugs, im sure this gun would easily detour an attacker, and definitely if you shot them in the face with it holy cow that'd be bad. But know your state laws with all self defense weapons. Only srun guns and mase are legal to use without permits where I am. So I got myself some of those too. But did end up going and getting my concealed weapons permit cus ide been meaning to do that for a long time anyways.
Thanks for all the great information. I am 62 years old and just wanting to have a little fun in the back yard, but like you my eyes aren't what they use to be, so I'm going to order that little scope. It looks good and its cheap. Thanks again for taking the time and putting the link in. Have a good day and God Bless !
You're welcome and I'm right behind you at 60. It is a good red/green dot sight for the money, and the slightly larger 4 moa dot size is perfect for plinking and shorter range target work. Good luck and enjoy!
@@VipersVideos i have the same gun . And I want to get some pellet s for mine. Were did you get them at . And can you give me the information on them. Any information I will gladly appreciate it.
@@rickeybullington6314 The RWS Hobby pellets I got from PyramydAir.com . The Winchester lightweight pellets are like 10 years old and I don't remember where I got them. Probably Walmart, but they are out of stock everywhere I have looked in the last couple years. I can't find them anywhere.
I wonder if Amazon sales the pellets. And were can I get the magazine that the pellets go into. I think I seen the black widow bb s on amazon.
Great video! Just ordered mine. Can't wait to to get it!
I hope you enjoy it!
They should make an updated version with rifled barrel.
Yes, that would be nice for pellets.
Greetings from Argentina. I like the BRODAX; it´s more than accurate being a BBs revolver (which is not little thing to say ...). But, one important detail: according to what I know, it´s not a good idea shooting BBs thru a rifled barrel (most certainly will damage the barrel); and/or shooting pellets thru a smooth barrel (accuracy loss). Will buy it next week and tell you my experience ...!
Greetings! Yes, I found it to be very accurate with BBs, and of course not so much with pellets with the smooth bore. I always like to give it a try and see how well they 'might' work out. Good luck with yours when you get it!
How is it
I use 10.5 gram piranha and 10.5 g pointed works great I used a 3/16 brad pointed drill bit on the rotary magazine to fit the pellets.
you can change the barrel to fire pellets that are rifles , also , i just learned the barra sells the rifled barrels for their scofields now , i wish had gotten this and scofield when walmart marked them down to 75% off a couple or few yrs back !
Every one commenting on here should look in to the black ops exterminator it has sheels that you pit the bbs and pellets in absolutely love that gun so accurate and realistic
Thank you brother. Waiting for it now to come today. Appreciate your video doc...
Thanks, and I hope you enjoy the Brodax!
the Prometheus pistol pellets are the Pellet of choice for this gun 482/504 fps.
only the Vilgilante surpasses it in Power.
Thanks for the info!
I have Prometheus pellets in .22 cal and yeah they are speedy, but I don't have any in .177 cal. Just looked and they're not avail at PA so I'll hunt them down (maybe AOA has them) and give them a try.
@@VipersVideos check ebay and airgun shops online. I wonder if it can shoot the crosman Fast Flights too.
@@VipersVideos Oh also check Uath Airguns too. or get any alloy pellets under 7 grams.
@@VipersVideos the H-N Trophy greens are 2nd best and hit harder.
@@joseglenn20 I have been looking at some you've mentioned and also similar others. I also dug around and found I had some H & N Sport Match Green Lead Free - .177 - 5.25 grains. I'll give them a try when I get a chance.
You can get the Winchester pellets at tractor supply
I've only found the 7.4 gr. lead there in the past, but maybe they now have the lead free 4.5 gr. avail. Thanks I'll check it out.
It reminds me of the gun from the movie split second with Rutger Hauer. So I just bought one😁
I remember that movie (VHS last I saw it) and yes I can see the resemblance. It also reminds me of the Blaster pistol used by Harrison Ford in the movie Blade Runner.
With rifled barrel it would be OK smooth barrel threw me off,I have plenty of BBs pistols and rifles.Favourite budget revolver has to be Vigilante,accurate,powerful and rifled,takes pellets with offer of 6 shots BBs which I don’t use..My goal to collect is Remington 1875 but bloody expensive and in general hobbies are expensive..Well I hope you all have fun…
Nice shootin! I just ordered one, can’t wait! Thanks for the review!
Hope you enjoy it, and thanks for the comment!
@@VipersVideos that lazer looks great on the gun.
@@VipersVideos those pellet s will mess you up. Looks like it is hitting hard on that target. I have really got to get some pellet s for mine.
Thank you for sharing this!
You're welcome!
Hey there !
there's a point on the Hammer file it off and you'll use 100% of the co2
and get extra Power.
Cool tip, thanks!
Thanks I’ll do that
I don't see it
Hi there where did you find that scope for the gun?
I mention it at 8:19 in the vid and there is the Amazon link above these comments in the description. But anyway, Amazon.
Thanks for the review I’m planning on getting one
Hope you enjoy it!
So it does shoot pellets, is it safe? As in the guns durability? I don’t want to damage it with sharp end pellets or jam it
Yeah it does shoot pellets but I am not recommending doing so, but just showing that it can which just confirms what other sources like PA Q&A mentions. Your questions and concerns are good ones, and I wish I had the answers but I do not at this point. If you want no risk in that area please don't do it. Each of us who tempts fate will have differing outcomes for sure.
use RWS Hypermax Pellets.
Pellets don’t fit in mine :/ did you have to buy a special clip?
Yes, the Umarex Colt Python metal pellet clip.
You can actually use pellets with this gun?
Yes as long as you use the metal Colt Rotary Pellet Magazines. Now that said, I don't actually recommend doing it as I found pellets performed poorly (relatively speaking) out of the smooth bore barrel.
Thanks for the review. I have bad pain in my hands. Can you guess at the trigger pull weight? Is it DA/SA or do you have to cock it every time??? Thanks
It is DA/SA. Best guess on trigger weight is about 5 lbs SA and 7 lbs DA, but that is for my particular unit.
I think mine has a leaking seal...it spews out as I'm screwing it in..is it supposed to do that, like it still works ones I get it all the way screwed in but it's just right when I first puncture it in the handle.
So even though this isn't advertised as being able to shoot _pellets,_ it does without issues?
Yes, (so far in mine and others experience) as long as you use the metal (Python) mags. The only concern is shooting pellets down a smooth bore, and of course it's not advertised or recommended. I've not had any issues with it other than it's more expensive ammo, and not as accurate as I'd have hoped.
Will this take crossman fast flight penetrators or are those too long for it to fit in the (pellet) magazine?
I don't know for sure as I don't have any of those pellets currently. I did however just measure the width/thickness of the magazine @ 8.6mm or .338". So if you can locate the overall length of the pellets you'll have the answer.
Is it going to kill a bird, those suckers keep waking me up at 5am😂. I got a nest just by my window, its going be fun😅
Maybe, but not humanely. If you are going to kill something with an airgun, at least be considerate and smart enough to get the right power level to kill humanely.
If you think "it's fun" to try to kill a nest full of birds with an under powered air pistol, maybe you shouldn't have one at all?
It's morons like you that should never own any gun, air or powder powered.. shooting baby birds and their mother in a their nest because their chirping disturbs makes you a disturbed individual to say the least.
Where do you get the pellet mags?
The Colt Rotary Pellet Metal Magazines, Fit 357 Python CO2 Pellet/BB Revolvers, 3pk I originally got at www.pyramydair.com are no longer available. I do not have another source, sorry.
Any idea where to find a replacement screw or what size the screw is that holds the co2?
Maybe Umarex Customer Service or Parts? Otherwise maybe someone else will comment on a source.
mine just arrived 😁
Cool, hope you enjoy it!
Any recommendations for the metal colt umarex rotary mags for pellets (Canada)?
Seems Pyramyd Air doesn't ship airguns to Canada, but I thought they shipped parts? But I guess I don't really know.
Otherwise try Umarex directly? That's all I can think of...
Was looking to get one but wanting to know if I could shoot pellets in it was stopping me, now that I know it's possible I'm gonna pull the trigger!🤠👍 after watching i was wondering can a riffled barrel be purchased for it? You know the way you found the mags?🤷♀️🙋
I haven't found a rifled barrel available for it.
This video is from 2 years. How is you gun doing? My won't fit the CO2 anymore and my cartridge gets wasted. I used it but didn't use the lubricant because I really had no knowledge of how to operate it.
The gun is doing good still, but I only shoot it occasionally as I have a lot of guns to shoot and not a lot of time for shooting. Also, I've always used a drop of lube on the top of co2 cartridge on all my co2 airguns. Not sure if that would have totally helped your gun, but it's a habit I've always kept.
If anyone knows is it based on a irl gun
Where did you find the scope?
Amazon. I put a link in the description.
What Co2 Cartage size suits this gun please?
12 gram Co2 cartridge. Installs in the grip frame under the grip panel.
How the heck do you load the pellets? I have .177 brodax and .177 pellets but have no clue how it goes into the magazine
You need to find/use Umarex Python metal magazines. Hard to find nowadays. I got these 3 years ago.
Hey man I’m gonna buy those pellet magazines is the one that go into colt python umarex I can’t be sure I found some on amazons they look identical but can’t tell if they are
Best you can do is check out any reviews for clues and try make an educated guess. Only real way to find out is to take a chance and order them. 'Shake them dice' I guess.
Does anyone know where the metal 10 round magazines for this pistol (I actually want them for the Colt Python) can be purchased. The 2020 link above shows that product as not available.
Wow they are hard to find now. I found these in a search, but no idea if the store is legit: www.airgunon.shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4094 Otherwise, I have no idea where to get them now, sorry.
@@VipersVideos any differences between the two mags?
@@stonesbouldersbones plastic oem (comes with it) one holds bbs, the metal (hard to find now) one hold pellets.
Basically metal/pellet one has little larger dia holes for pellets.
@@VipersVideos I figured it out. Drill to 11/64, use umarex pointed pellets 7.2gr and it works smoothly. The pellets are about 1" less accurate for every 5 yards you go vs the bb's
@@VipersVideos basically for $35 you can make a 10 shot 400fps+ revolver, America is cool
Can you use airsoft bbs in it if it is the right size?
I don't know what size airsoft bbs are. But the steel bbs and pellets it shoots are supposedly 4.5mm or .177 cal, if that helps.
@@VipersVideos ok thank you
@@tommyboy1234 You're welcome, wish i knew...
No.
In terms of home defense which is better with this gun, pellets or bbs?
None, as this would not be an effective or recommended hd method, unless just seeing it might deter some.
That said however, bbs would typically penetrate deeper in many mediums.
I just got one and I can’t find the python pellet magazines coul I just slap pellets into the standard plastic ones that come with it stock?
Yes, sort of. The plastic OEM mags holes will be a bit undersized to hold the smaller (than pellet dia) bb's, so if you slowly/gently filed or sanded (I'm not recommending, just saying) them open just enough to hold a pellet snug, it should work. But that will make the holes oversized for bb use, so keep that in mind and try to get some spares. Again, not recommending or promising it will work. Ymmv as always.
Is it double action?
It is both single and double action.
Where do we find more of the magesins
Pyramyd Air has them listed as BB mags for Colt Python but in description says also for Brodax: www.pyramydair.com/product/colt-rotary-bb-magazines-fit-357-python-co2-pellet-bb-revolvers-3pk?a=5573
Is it the same with the umarex tornado?
My understanding is yes, basically the same. I read somewhere that the "Tornado" version/name was released in the UK, and the "Brodax" version/name was released in the USA and Canada.
@@VipersVideos thank you man ,can you send a link ? I can't find the pellets
@@faeenasnikers6123 if you mean the Winchester alloy pellets, I cannot find them anywhere currently. I bought the ones in the video years ago. Here's a link to the PA site but they are out of stock: www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Winchester_Maximum_Velocity_Pellets_177_Cal_4_32_Grains_Domed_Lead_Free_250ct/1171 Otherwise I just used RWS Hobby or any other pellet to try and see what one might work well.
@@VipersVideos thank you
@@faeenasnikers6123 you are welcome!
Is it OK to Use Daisy match grade bbs.Thanks
If they are .177 caliber, then yes absolutely.
How to repair c02 leak?
Try some pellgunoil or use it when replacing c02 cartridges to keep seals in good shape also never overtighten co2 when replacing cartridge.
Also check for dirt and debris around seal
What kind of pellets are those?
5:00
How do you load the pellets
You purchase these Colt Python Co2 metal rotary magazines and load/push pellets in from the backside: www.pyramydair.com/product/colt-rotary-pellet-magazines-fit-357-python-co2-pellet-bb-revolvers?a=7375
*It’s a clip not a magazine by the way
You might want to mention that to Umarex btw...
www.umarexusa.com/colt-python-177-10-rd-mag-3-pk
It's called rotary magazine..
Can it shoot plastic bb's?
If they are .177 caliber (.170"-.174" actual) then I believe it would be able to. I don't have any experience shooting any so I can't say for sure.
What size rail is this?
It's listed on the Umarex website as picatinny rail. Here's a page on picatinny rail: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picatinny_rail
What kind of scope is that
Field Sport Red and Green Micro Dot-
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D4AYBR6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Rws Hypermax pellets alloy 460fps.
Very speedy!
@@VipersVideos did you try them ?
@@joseglenn4435 Oh my goodness no not yet. Man we just had one of the longest coldest friggen winters (like 7 months and still counting) I remember, so as I write this we are still in the upper 30's and 40's F. for daily high temps. I haven't shot any airguns for so long I have withdrawal symptoms!!
Damn 9 min in, just shoot it yo!
Sorry Danny but I'm an old (fashioned) dude that enjoys sharing and yacking a bit especially when I'm showing something that has been modded or my usage not in stock form. Great thing about YT is you can just move the video position slider to get to whatever you want to see when I'm talking too much. Slow down and enjoy the ride a little, as the destination is not always that satisfying. But still, thanks for watching and commenting yo! :)
@@VipersVideos I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, I just wanted to hear and see it's in action, sorry I was being rude.
@@dannymartinez8314 Okay Time Out! lol ... No apology needed man and I didn't take it as disrespectful. I understood what you meant but in total Viper style I blabbed a big long message back explaining why I blab so much in vids, and then decided to 'jab/jibe' you a bit to add a bit of fun. I didn't mean it to seem rude back either and that's why I put the lame smiley thingy at the end. If you watch enough of my other vids (be warned I blab a lot) you'll see I don't take myself very seriously and just like to have fun making a vid here and there on whatever strikes me, and yes I sometimes over explain things probably because I like information that way, I dunno. But seriously thanks for both comments, and I was young once too and wanted to see more action than just a dude yacking. It's all good man and I'll do my best to get into the action faster in future vids. Just don't quote me on that though!
@@dannymartinez8314 shut up dude, be thankful he did the video, thats the problem with some people theses days, they want everything done the way they want it, your parents raised you all wrong.
can. you. kill. snakes. with. it
no. I. can. not.
I'm gonna say great little BB gun but if you shot me with that in self defense your gonna piss me off I'm 6-1 435lbs but great grouping nice gun lol
No SD with the pellets in this one, anyway I'm more of an avoider of trouble than defender..lol But yeah it's really a nice affordable bb revolver and a great bargain for sure.
Those bb's in your eyes or rattled off your teeth will do more than piss you off.
I’m sure u would be pissed missing an eye 😂