What you need to do is turn off ASPM for any drive which is causing issues in your Surface Pro. With that off it works perfectly and there are no crashes with any drive.
I'm wondering why Surface Pro 9 is running SSD on PCIe 3.0. According to specs both device and drive are PCIe 4.0 compatible. I wanted to upgrade my drive with WD SN770M SSD(which has 5150MB/s and 4900MB/s read/write speed). It seems pointless when Pro 9 is running SSD in a mode that is limited to 4GB/s(limit for PCIe 3.0 x4). Some YT tutorials for this upgrade include speed tests done after replacement and authors are dissapointed with results. I suspect it is rather a problem with PCIe 3.0 limit than the drive itself.
I have a timetec gen 3 1TB that outperforms this drive on crytaldiskmark. Rather have a gen 3 than have fingers crossed that the gen 4 drive doesn't suddenly start causing issues after a windows update.
Thanks for the video. After i change my SSD to a 2TB SSD from WD Black SN770M the surface CPU is always overheating :( Even when i download games from Steam Store. CPU is running by 100%, its get very very hot and than crash... is it possible that the new SSD is overpowerd? The download rate is very fast and also the writing rate to ssd. And also after gaming its crash down after few minutes. Do you know what i can do? Thx
Hi. What drive did you ultimately replace with and does it perform well without failure? Because I have the same issue with my Sabrent Rocket drive that I installed on my Surface 8 Pro. Also, you mentioned someone was able to fix the issue with a firmware upgrade… what do you mean by that?
Hi, the Kioxia BG4 SSD shown in the video performed flawlessly so I never changed after that. Used it for several months, but I now no longer have this machine. The firmware update thing was something people mentioned in Reddit threads - some of them had issues upgrading the drive, but after updating to a certain build (normally via windows Update) they were able to use it. I can't verify this as I never encountered any problems in the first place.
@@PhilKnall Just spoke with a friend that is very good with computers, he said that potentially upgrading BIOS (like you mentioned in the video)could solve the issue with little effort. If that doesn't work and the problem continues, he said to open the cover and check if the SSD becomes hot to the point where it is not comfortable to keep a finger on it (usually this happens above 50celcius). If that is the case, it is probably the reason why manufacturer has placed the original SSD into a heatsink case... And, ultimately, if the heat explanation is not relevant, than most likely, we are looking at a corrupt or low quality SSD - which are common on Amazon and EBAY nowadays. In which case purchasing a replacement from a certified retailer would be the best solution.
Hi again Phil. Not made yet the "AHCI Link Power Management" as I was not 100% sure if it will solve crashes and was wondering to look for 3rf gem SSD to ensure I have no suprises in the future. When you say after weeks, "No issue" that's because you done something with voltage management or AHCI? In fact after 2 weeks of low usage of surface I had no issue but after installing more apps I started to have screen lock followed by sudden blackout (especially when I get the notice to install microsoft Xbox games). Are we talking of same king of issue with SDD voltage? AHCI tuto sould solve this? Can´t understand how it still working good for you without changing anything. Ah, one thing I sould do is to put Sdd back in the 256Gb sheath... Thanks again for your help.
Unfortunately it's much harder to troubleshoot when there are no issues, than if there were. I haven't made any changes to my PC aside from the AHCI setting (and only after a few days, no issues without it either). However it's not my main machine so I haven't used it for hours on end. I guess we'll find out when I edit my next video on it.
@@PhilKnall OK. AHCI mode activated. I have put both active Battery and plugged in. Is that correct or it should be only on battery? Thanks again for your time.
Hi, I have upgrade Same Surftace Pro 8 16Gb from 256 to 1Tb Kioxia BG5. All working good a few weeks but since yesterday I have some issue. Suddenly Screen is blcked and surface restarts. Can this be due to the SSD? Any SSD controllers updates to make or changes on Bios to do? Thanks in advance.
I do think it's possible. Do you already have the ahci power settings installed? Here's the link: www.tenforums.com/tutorials/72971-add-ahci-link-power-management-power-options-windows.html Otherwise definitely update your surface firmware.. also do you think it might be temperature related? If it's hot where you are it might be a factor. These are supposed to run hot.
ai fost cel mai sincer in tot ce ai facut ,dintre multi care fac asa tutoriale...fi binecuvantat
Thank you very much! :)
hi, thank you so much! I'm planning to upgrade my machine to 1TB Storage. This video is exactly what I'm looking for.
Awesome, hope your upgrade goes great!
What you need to do is turn off ASPM for any drive which is causing issues in your Surface Pro. With that off it works perfectly and there are no crashes with any drive.
Thanks for the tip!
THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT DEMONSTRATION. I COULD DO IT AND WORKING NICELY.
Glad it helped!
I'm wondering why Surface Pro 9 is running SSD on PCIe 3.0. According to specs both device and drive are PCIe 4.0 compatible. I wanted to upgrade my drive with WD SN770M SSD(which has 5150MB/s and 4900MB/s read/write speed). It seems pointless when Pro 9 is running SSD in a mode that is limited to 4GB/s(limit for PCIe 3.0 x4).
Some YT tutorials for this upgrade include speed tests done after replacement and authors are dissapointed with results. I suspect it is rather a problem with PCIe 3.0 limit than the drive itself.
I have a timetec gen 3 1TB that outperforms this drive on crytaldiskmark. Rather have a gen 3 than have fingers crossed that the gen 4 drive doesn't suddenly start causing issues after a windows update.
That makes total sense, good on you for finding that drive.
Amazing
Thanks!
WD Black SN770M currently usable? If anyone is using it, please let me know.
I tried one week ago but it does't work (blue screen and restart). Do you bought a new ssd? I'm asking because I want to upgrande my surface pro 8
Thanks for the video.
After i change my SSD to a 2TB SSD from WD Black SN770M the surface CPU is always overheating :(
Even when i download games from Steam Store. CPU is running by 100%, its get very very hot and than crash... is it possible that the new SSD is overpowerd? The download rate is very fast and also the writing rate to ssd. And also after gaming its crash down after few minutes.
Do you know what i can do?
Thx
I'm the same you😢
Did you guys cover the new ssd with metal cover?
Hi. What drive did you ultimately replace with and does it perform well without failure? Because I have the same issue with my Sabrent Rocket drive that I installed on my Surface 8 Pro. Also, you mentioned someone was able to fix the issue with a firmware upgrade… what do you mean by that?
Hi, the Kioxia BG4 SSD shown in the video performed flawlessly so I never changed after that. Used it for several months, but I now no longer have this machine.
The firmware update thing was something people mentioned in Reddit threads - some of them had issues upgrading the drive, but after updating to a certain build (normally via windows Update) they were able to use it. I can't verify this as I never encountered any problems in the first place.
@@PhilKnall Just spoke with a friend that is very good with computers, he said that potentially upgrading BIOS (like you mentioned in the video)could solve the issue with little effort. If that doesn't work and the problem continues, he said to open the cover and check if the SSD becomes hot to the point where it is not comfortable to keep a finger on it (usually this happens above 50celcius). If that is the case, it is probably the reason why manufacturer has placed the original SSD into a heatsink case...
And, ultimately, if the heat explanation is not relevant, than most likely, we are looking at a corrupt or low quality SSD - which are common on Amazon and EBAY nowadays. In which case purchasing a replacement from a certified retailer would be the best solution.
@@sg_atukr4247 that all makes a lot of sense. I hope you can solve your issue!
Hi again Phil. Not made yet the "AHCI Link Power Management" as I was not 100% sure if it will solve crashes and was wondering to look for 3rf gem SSD to ensure I have no suprises in the future. When you say after weeks, "No issue" that's because you done something with voltage management or AHCI? In fact after 2 weeks of low usage of surface I had no issue but after installing more apps I started to have screen lock followed by sudden blackout (especially when I get the notice to install microsoft Xbox games). Are we talking of same king of issue with SDD voltage? AHCI tuto sould solve this? Can´t understand how it still working good for you without changing anything. Ah, one thing I sould do is to put Sdd back in the 256Gb sheath... Thanks again for your help.
Unfortunately it's much harder to troubleshoot when there are no issues, than if there were. I haven't made any changes to my PC aside from the AHCI setting (and only after a few days, no issues without it either). However it's not my main machine so I haven't used it for hours on end. I guess we'll find out when I edit my next video on it.
@@PhilKnall OK. AHCI mode activated. I have put both active Battery and plugged in. Is that correct or it should be only on battery? Thanks again for your time.
@@clarenceg.7789 that should be it. Fingers crossed that it solves the issue! 🤞
@@PhilKnall I will try a 4k edition and see.
Hi, I have upgrade Same Surftace Pro 8 16Gb from 256 to 1Tb Kioxia BG5. All working good a few weeks but since yesterday I have some issue. Suddenly Screen is blcked and surface restarts. Can this be due to the SSD? Any SSD controllers updates to make or changes on Bios to do?
Thanks in advance.
I do think it's possible. Do you already have the ahci power settings installed? Here's the link: www.tenforums.com/tutorials/72971-add-ahci-link-power-management-power-options-windows.html
Otherwise definitely update your surface firmware.. also do you think it might be temperature related? If it's hot where you are it might be a factor. These are supposed to run hot.
@@PhilKnall nothing done, only changed ssd and that's it. No ahci power setting done. This can solve the problem?
@@clarenceg.7789 people reported that's what fixed/lindered it for them before the firmware was updated. Worth a try.
@@PhilKnall Ok, seen the AHCI power setting. What option sould I use? Active, HIPM, HIPM+DIPM, DIPM, Lowest?
@@clarenceg.7789 reddit says active or hipm-dipm! Hope it works.
WD PC SN740 NVMe SSD 1 TB M.2 2230 does not work bluescreen, sudden restart etc.
hi thank you so much for for sharing, could you link to where you bought the drive?
Thanks for the comment! I bought it second hand via Mercari.
Strange, around position 5: you swap the old drive! (256 Gb) ?
Hello, I'm not quite sure what you meant, but I swapped the stock one (256) to 512 and then to this one (1tb).
@@PhilKnallit looks to me that you put the 256Gb back in :) But ok, at the end of the video you clearly show the result..
@@NK-tn9qb That's what it looked like to me too! :)
Sorry for the confusion! Odd choice from Microsoft to print the capacity on the casing 😅
I bought Kioxia BG5 PCIe 4.0 SSD 1TB. While installing windows 11 over usb at 30% show a message "there is a probleme". can not install windows
Sorry to hear. Mine's still working flawlessly...
Hi bro. how about now? does any crashes happen?
Nope, everything working great!
Is it necesary to cool the drive?
It gets pretty warm so I would say so. Some of the articles mentioned heat as the problem.
How about surface pro 7?
That's an even older hardware system so I'd expect more difficulties. I don't have one so I cannot test.